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  • gorgen (the pitcher) would pull something like this hahaha

  • Who won that game by the way?

  • it's the new rule guys...you have to be on the base for atleast 2 seconds to be safe..

  • when i was in 2nd grade, i was also a victim of the hidden ball trick

  • he was totally safe, wtf

  • thats dirty

    if i was the guy on second i would have started a fight i might get kicked out but i would feel better after i beat that short stop in the mouth

  • @cavalierfan1995 if u start a fight in college baseball u could get thrown out of college possibly fined and if u r not thrown out of ur school u will be of the tournament so probably a bad idea

  • the reason it was such a bad call was because the ump isnt supposed to be watching second base and the runner. he needs to be watching where he thinks the ball is. he was doing his job correctly. he wasnt watching so he just guessed.

  • we did that in 5th grade

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  • If the umpire didn't see the play, why didn't he ask another ump for help? If no ump sees an out, then the player should be ruled safe. Which would have been the correct call in this case.

  • its completely legal but hes safe

  • SAFE

  • huff as hell

  • i hate it when people do that. If u wanna play, play it the right way.

  • Shouldn't make a call if you didn't see it. Should not go by the reaction.

  • this is even worse then Jim Joyce.

  • @Royals1613 Difference: Joyce is a stand up guy and admitted his mistake.

  • Umpires get talked into this call all the time...whether he is on the bag or not. 

  • Oh my god that is horrible umping. These guys suck.

  • the pitcher does appear to definitely not on the rubber, probably not on the mound. It was a bad call. For the record the last one recorded in MLB was done by Julio Lugo of the Red Sox 6/7/2007. vs Diamondbacks. Apparently this trick was fairly common up to the late forties, early fifties, but, like stealing home, has gone out of use in recent years. Can anyone access/upload the Red Sox/Lugo play?

  • was the pitcher on the mound? cuse if he was its illigal

  • @thedudedude56 his foot was off the mound, it was legal

  • That is the gayest play ever that happened to us yesterday when we were making a two out rally

  • Definitely not the best call in the world. But LeMahieu deserves to be out for being that dumb. You don't lead off until the pitcher is on the mound. Nice that UC Irvine had the balls to pull off that trick against LSU in a super regional. 

  • Why the argument? He was obviously safe, but the umps made a bad call. It's a neat little trick, but LeMahieu saw it coming, and got back. The ump went more by the reaction of the second baseman than his eyes, and by the it was to lat. Because God forbid an Umpire admit he wasn't watching.

  • Bush league. How did this series end again?

  • Remember wen will Clark on the sf giants did this? Lol shit was raw!

  • looked safe to me

    

  • That is actually a balk because the pitcher was on the mound without the ball when todd jones and mike Lowell did their hidden ball trick jones circled around the mound, so it was not a balk

  • @MrNephson Doesn't look like he was on the mound just yet. Both feet appear to still be in the grass.

  • @MrNephson the official rule is that the pitcher cannot be on the top of the mound or the rubber without the ball you're right most people would just circle the mound to avoid any chance of a balk but if you're on the back or sides and its obvious your fine

  • might be the worst call i've ever seen.... and i dont' care about irvine or lsu or college baseball... left foot touched the bag, a good half second past, then the tag was applied. horrid call.

  • It wasn't that bad of a call. Look how close it is and imagine not hacing instant replay. Good job for the defense. Stop blaming the umpire for R2's fuck up.

  • dont get off the bag before he gets on the mound then u got no problem

  • I love all the idiots who say "i wow they have to resort to cheap tactics just to win". First of all, This is like the 2nd time its been pulled off, and secondly, ITS CALLED BEING SMART AND READING THE RULES.

  • What a bunch of pussies for having to use the hidden ball trick as the only way to win.

  • those umps are blind wth!?

  • hidden ball tricks are just plain unprofessional

  • Baseball needs to use instant replay for stupid shit like this

  • Great attempt, but bad call by the umps.

    This play works much better at first base, obviously.

  • Did he died

  • second baseman would get one in the ear hole next time at bat

  • @pilotguy32 ur the man

  • My friend did the hidden ball trick in fall ball once for the last out of the inning against a bunch of 17 year-old ghetto hispanic kids, I had to bat leadoff the next inning against a kid who threw 80, he drilled me in the back with a fastball and i htought my lung collapsed

  • @tng150 that's what you get son.

  • @PS3BlackOpsPwnage yea, for what my teammate. ps3blackopsownage

  • That was HORRIBLE!

  • I took umpire classes and a tie is subject to the ump's interpretation, it doesn't has to go to anyone, it is what the ump think it is.

  • he was safe but you got to respect the fielder who tagged him out he really sold it and that may have convinced the umpire.

  • Thats a bitch move

  • i think he got back

  • 0:45 best part

  • Hidden ball trick is lame

  • look at those grown men acting like children throwing their hats around and screaming over a fucking game.

  • UCI! ZOT ZOT baby! go EATERS!!

  • stupid loisianian

  • pause at 1:22 SAFE as can be

  • It really depends on the blue. I mean if i was the ump it could go either way just whoever is in my favoritism at the time.

  • ohhh hell noo that was SAFEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

  • if you can't win with skill, just fake it...

  • That is SOOOOO close in slow motion. Make that call in real time.

  • vote the thumbs up if y like LSU TIGERS BBY

  • @entropone - Federation and college rules do not allow the pitcher to be on the mound. The interpretation under MLB rules is different however. Since this was NCAA game, I'm pretty confident the college rules interpretation would have been used...

  • @beakt - if the pitcher is anywhere on the dirt of the mound without the ball it is a balk.

  • @loduca16 you are completely wrong.

  • @entropone Please explain in more detail.

    My understanding is that if the pitcher can't be on the mound. If you have something to offer more than "you are completely wrong" that would be good and also helpful.

  • @loduca16 - True, but the pitcher is clearly standing on the grass. Perfectly legal at any level.

  • For those who don't understand, the Hidden Ball Trick is when a fielder still has the ball while to pitcher pretends to get ready for his next pitch. Without knowing, the base runner is usually tagged out because they never realize it. This play is pretty rare, mostly because its really risky.

  • wow... look at the ump turn and face second base at 3:39. too bad the play happened an hour before he turned

  • way safe

  • pussy play

  • I didn't even think that was legal, I saw it in a movie but I never thought it would be done in real games.

  • @mansonjoselito perfectly legal. as long as the pitcher doesnt stand on the mound in any way.. good indicator of a hidden ball trick is the pitcher doesnt get on the mound

  • lol why are sec fans really so rabid. you guys got had by the smarter west coast team.

  • wait so i dont get it, i thought the guy who did the double move thing had the ball... can someone explain?

  • he was out cause the ump called him out LOL

  • 帰塁のが早いですね。

  • safe or not, thats an awesome play.

  • This is why baseball annoys the shit out of me. Fuck the "human element". No, it pisses people off. Umpires suck more than steroids.

  • lameihu is on the cubs now!

  • UCI! ZOT! ZOT!

  • LSU RULES

    SAFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    GEUAX TIGERS

  • He was way safe

  • safe by a mile

  • he was back, SAFE...

  • umpire didnt even look at the play 

  • you should even lead untill his foot is on the rubber so things like that dont happen

  • The rule is you cannot "stand on or astride the pitcher's plate." It clearly was not a balk. Even if he was on the mound dirt, it was not a balk.

  • 1st off hes on the mound with out the ball and thats a bawlk. iv umpired 8 years and iv called 2 balks cuz of that

  • @jaredakajb actually its debatable, hes not actually on the mound, hes on the backside of it in the grass, just like the commentators said. So i would say its not a balk but he was still clearly safe at second

  • he was out by a mile

  • SAFE. We'll light your ass up this weekend in that shitty excuse for a college baseball stadium. GEAUX TIGERS!

  • hidden ball trick is for pussies

  • "should of"...."could of"?....seriously people? Do you REALLY not know it's should/could/would HAVE?

  • SAFE

  • SAFE

  • Cool! but he was safe

  • he cant even be on the mound that shouldve been considered a balk

  • @SkittleSoccer12

    he can be on the mound. just not the rubber

  • Woow i could see that he was safe if i was blind omg

  • That was big time BS....He was sooo safe.

  • Actually from the looks of it actually looks like an illegal hidden ball trick. According to NCAA rules a pitch may NOT be on the mound or dirt... he must be on the grass around the pitching mound. Unless that's changed, umpires flubbed that one. I remember watching thinking, first off its illegal, secondly the runner was safe to begin with.

  • @mattman2900 I believe he can be on the mound BUT cannot straddle the rubber without the ball or it is a balk. We tried it once and got called for it.

  • @cavsnprbeau I was looking at the NCAA rules and it said the pitcher must not be on the mound, and must be on the grass. Its really hard to tell exactly where was standing. But the umpire is the one to blame, since the runner was safe, the illegality of the play should have even been called into question, but umpires are human, at least I think so. I'm not sure about Albert "The Machine" Pujols though :D

  • Whether or not the umpire made the right call or not, which I believe without a slow-mo-replay he would have appeared VERY out, Irvine sold the play and the LSU baserunner broke rule #1 as a runner, never lead off without the pitcher being on the rubber.

  • What the hell is this guy talkin about they've won the CWS 6 times and he was safe any coach would get pissed about that

  • Umps don't know what there doing most the time as clearly seen here. I mean really IDK if you seen a real LSU baseball game but if u do the refs or HORRIBLE

  • lsu is just made because they cant keep up with the talent of california baseball and they know it. There 3rd base coach was acting like a big baby

  • First, you're a jackass, second, they are mad because he is quite clearly safe, it even says it in this video.

  • like every other 3rd base coach would when its a bad call. dont be biased because ur probably a irvine fan

  • @NextStep21 can't keep up huh? who won the series dumbass?

    That's what i thought. Keep your mouth shut unless you can back it up.

  • Tempers have been flared across the field....

  • out by a mile!

  • he was safe.......nice play

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  • Pause at 1:23 you can clearly see his foot on base, and then the glove hits a second after... shitty call by ump.

  • wow ive nvr seen such a bad call that horrible i paused it right when his foot hit the bag and and there is still grass between the glove and his leg

  • @Philthy92389 how can u call that the worst call in history? The umpires dont get PAUSE, REWIND, etc like you felt the need to use. Heck, the umpires were as fooled as anyone else.. they sold it well and thats all that matters sometimes.

  • bad call. If its close....the call goes to the runner.

  • some douchebag ump said when i hit the bag at the exact moment if not sooner than the ball, that the tie goes to the defense. and the rule changed last year, now after almost 200 years, why in the fuckin hell would the rule change?

  • @birddoggarton actually it's a tie goes to the runner. But it's clear he was safe by a half step, and while that might not seem like much, in baseball in real-time it's a world of time. The ump missed the call - it happens, last I checked baseball still employs humans as umpires... at least for now. :)

  • @macky592 I dare you to find anywhere in the major league book that says "tie goes to the runner" that's dumbest thing ever uttered out of anybody's mouth on a diamond. Also, with your naked eye I dare you to tell me when there is an exact tie. If thrown more coaches out of games on this premiss. Do yourself a favor, and never EVER say "tie goes to the runner" on a baseball field. You'll be smarter for it.

  • @rclsu13 Let me clarify. I was using it as a marking period, as when in doubt. Sorry if I made it seem like there was a "rule on it" I know there's no such rule... it can be interpreted as "tie goes to the runner" but there's no rule. Once again so there's no confusion THERE"S NO RULE about it. I was using it as a basis for interpretation of the video, not baseball's rules. I played baseball for 16 years, I'd never tell an ump tie goes the runner, that's just maddness. geez.

  • @birddoggarton thecall goes to NO ONE....take an umpires class and youll know that..you go with your instincts...but yes he was safe

  • @birddoggarton If it's close or tied, the call DOES NOT go to the runner. You hear that line growing up. But the rules state the runner must reach the bag before the ball.

  • @birddoggarton THERE IS NO CLOSE IN BASEBALL HE WAS EITHER OUT OR SAFE.

  • he was safe

  • baaseball is all on perception ..... this was really crazy bad call but shit happends . PUDDDTTTTT MACHINGUN double zotts

  • Safe or not, the guy's an idiot for leading off while the pitcher was off the rubber.

  • zot, zot,, zot baby!! represent!

  • safe!

  • go UCI!

  • safe

  • it was safe... if u think it was not safe ur blind

  • u really need to work on grammar

  • @s4mmyg7

    >u

    >telling somebody their grammar sucks.

    laughingelfman.jpg

  • @freecell82

    look at vvatchout, what he said

  • the ump wasnt even looking at the play

  • Thing about the hidden ball trick is that if the runner doesn't lead off the base, then you are made to look not only like a bush league jerk, but an unsuccessful one.

    Your pitcher stands off the mound for an inordinate amount of time, and your second baseman has to sheepishly return the ball to the pitcher.

  • im british, can someone please explain what happened, why was the runner out

  • cuz ur gay

  • safe

  • Safe

  • bad call ump. o wait, this is LSU? Great call ump!

  • hatin on the champs are we, its ok, its understandable... your jealous

  • <Gators fan

  • and? lmao? LSU > Florida in Baseball LSU 2 BCS national championships, florida as well, why in the hell would i care that your a florida fan?

  • about as out as Jackie Robinson was white...

  • shitty call

  • he's out cant do nothing about it so quit griping lsu hahahaha

  • The second baseman should have waited til the guy took a bigger lead.  That was a mistake on his part.

  • he was safe

  • he is way safe. but the ump's prob had no idea or saw it out of the corner of his eye and went with his gut, which is dumb if true.

  • he was so safe

  • "Close?" Give me a break.

  • i think heis clearly safe

  • It could have gone either way...if you have to use slow mo replay to tell if he was safe then it was an ok call. Very hard to make that call. But cant complain. Got to give blue some love here.

  • He was safe. end of story. the refs made a horrible call.

  • the "refs"? This ain't basketball or football. This is baseball. Their called "umpires" in baseball.

  • Even though the runner was CLEARLY safe. Ray Charles could of seen that the runner was safe. Jesus christ. What a shitty call.

  • 2 things :

    1. Runner should not of stepped off second until pitcher touched the rubber. This is why Coaches say stay on the bag until the pitcher gets on the rubber.

    2. This is 100 % legal. Pitcher was not on the rubber so therefore it is NOT a balk. However, if he had been standing on the rubber, it would of been a balk.

    Stupid "baserunning" blunder and great execution by Irvine. This is a dirty play, but it's legal.

  • safe

  • It looked like the umpire wasn't paying attention to the play because the runner's foot was on the bag before the tag.

  • Good sell by UC Irvine lol. That being said to clear something up I saw.. its a balk if the pitcher steps onto the mound.. not the rubber. Depends on the league but the rule off the top of my head is actually 5 feet.. most umps just use the mound itself as the judge though.

  • no it's the rubber. He has to have the ball as soon as he engages the rubber otherwise it's a balk

  • Sometimes umpires fall victim to giving teams credit for doing something very well. That was a well-executed "hidden ball" trick so the umpire was blinded by the fact that the runner was actually safe. You often see the same thing when an infielder makes a particularly spectacular stab and a miraculous throw to first - even if the runner is safe, the umpire often calls the runner out on a close play, giving the defense "credit" for playing so well.

  • No he wasn't. He only saw the last second of the play! It's an easy call to miss

  • its so simple to avoid the hidden ball trick. dont lead off until the pitcher is ON THE RUBBER. im pretty sure that the pitcher cannot step onto the rubber without the ball. its a dumb mistake on the baserunner's part anyway

  • and if he does step on rubber it's a balk

  • exactly.

  • i did this in a game at first and got the out

  • Yeah so what he was safe but it was a cool idea that was smart and you would never see LSU do that. LSU is not smart enough or clever enough to do something like that UC Irvine did a great job selling it.

  • yeh you gotta be so smart to attempt the oldish trick in the book. dumb fuck

  • Um who is the dumb one? Hmm... oh yeah maybe the guy that got tricked by the oldest trick in the book. Do me a favor and tell which mental institution you live in. retard

  • "the guy" didnt get tricked, he was back on second before he was tagged you dumb fuck. the ump was being a blind retard who wasnt paying close attention and just called him out bc uci played it off that they got him. you dumb fuck douche

  • What a bad call

  • Safe....bad call. Cool idea.

  • thats just a bush play, second base deserves to be hit by a pitch thats just crap

  • 3.22 wtf random chick

  • Don't leave the bag till the pitchers on the rubber!!!