In the book, Mr. Rivers goes to India, not Africa! Anyone have any idea why they changed it? I know it's a bit silly of me to be pissed about a change that makes no difference to the story whatsoever, but still....it's not like changing the location to Africa served any great purpose. I would have loved it if they had been more faithful to the book and kept India as his destination.
Firstly, 20,000 pounds = ~$1.7m today...darn, I could so retire on that! Secondly, WTF is a half-cousin?? Never heard of that!! Her father and his mother were brother & sister - how does that make them HALF-COUSINS?? that's full on first-cousin family if you ask me. So the fact that he asks her to marry him is just way up high on the severely wrong scale to me!! I know, I know..it's 19th cent England..they were all in-bred...like the Royals..
In my opinion St John in the movie is a very likable guy, he smiles, he is rather friendly, but in the book he's as dry as a core of bread. He never smiles and is rather pushy. I dont like that character at all kinda :(
I don't get how St John is Jane's half cousin... If St. John's mother was Jane's father sister, wouldn't that made him her paternal cousin n not half cousin?? I'm sorry i haven't really read the entire book yet :) but im a huge fan tho. :D
There is no half-cousin in the novel. I saw a suggestion that the whole half-cousin thing would be a way to make the proposal more becoming to a modern audience. Cousin marriage were legio at the time.
But they would have been half-cousins if their parents were half-siblings.
@MsSilentia ooo true.... But from what I've read from the book [I've been finding the page ever since :D HEHE !] they are definitely cousins.. so its probably they intepretated wrongly or like the suggestion said it was just their way of proposing to the audience lool
Yes, he is much nicer. But StJohn in the novel played an important part in Jane's growing inte the woman who could reject a reasonable "Christian" marriage and choose to seek Edward Rochester out instead. In the novel the choice between StJohn and Rochester is the choice between adjustment and self-reliance and the choice is so frightening to her so she is the last one to fully admit what she is up to. Both StJohn and the reader knows it earlier.
@MsSilentia There is no reason to complain, though. Sandy Welch has left out the philosophy from the book. And for the psychology in the story he is quite god enough.
may i assume that stJ is actually selfish, in a way that pushing innocent woman into his life, to sacrifice for a career that only he himself interested in; trivializing and ignoring her feelings?
Jane is everything I would like to be as a woman. She is strong, she has values that ring true to me. But I find myself much weaker than her. That is why I don't expect Mr. Rochester to appear in my life. Because I am nothing like Jane.
@HolidaysForLuu In the book it's Hindostanee, and his plan is to go to India (I'm not sure if it would still be called that though, it sounds quite outdated!)
@hmesser91 ... I think you are right, though the spelling is alittle off... It is Hindustani, but now I think it is refered to as Hindi... This is absolutely my favourtie version of Jane Eyre, with Samantha Morton and Ciaran Hinds a close second. My ver best regards from Wales Uk :0)x
@levioletoiseau10 ... they do pronouce St John very strangly indeed, such are the complexaties of the English language I fear.. And yes it is spoken as 'sin-jin' or 'sin-jon'...
Do you remember '4 Wedding and a Funeral' with Huge Grant.. One of the Grooms name's was St John and the poor Vicar (Rowan Atkinson) just could not pronouce it at all... Best regards from Wales :0)x
@morganmae2013 he said this because he(like he said) did not want to make her life full of sins like it would have been when jane had lived with edward like husband and wife. so, only to have each others company, he said they could live together like siblings but not like a pair of lovers. you understand? lke no "night visits" and so on ;D
@whatdefrik I'm assuming it might have been different in those days. When he says half cousins Jane instantly knew that it was his mother, and not his father, that was related to her father. So perhaps that has something to do with it....? lol maybe if it has been their fathers who were related they would have been "whole" cousins lol granted I'm really just pulling this from my ass and have no idea what I am talking about but I did find it curious she knew with out him telling her the details.
@whatdefrik St. John's mother was Jane's father's half sister. They shared either a mother or a father in common, but not both. This was fairly common due to the high death rate for women in childbirth. Therefore St. John and Jane are half cousins.
the part where she finds out she has cousins is the most moving part of this entire film in my opinion...finally jane has a family to call her own ...people to love her
and her generosity of sharing the inheritance wealth is truely beautiful kindness
Second hand love never works and people should love themselves enough to not settle for it. We only have one life and we deserve the best we can get out it and that doesn't include settling. Christ said we should love ourselves and that's right. The trick is to not be IN LOVE with ourselves. :) We have the right to like who we are. That's why Jane is so appealing. She knows who she is.
anybody agrees with me that St. John is a crazy character and more colder than Rochester who wanted to bring her into a life of sin/lied to her(whatever that isXD)?
Coldness and ignorance are the worst elements a character can have for me .
yes, but mr. darcy had a grand house to run, servants to pay, tenants to take care of, coaches and horses to keep up, and innumerable other expenses, all of which take away from his annual ten thousand a year. the money was tied in with the house- as the eldest mr. darcy, he was awarded the annuity. women, in this time, however, were left entire fortunes- i believe the miss bingleys had 20000 like jane here to themselves
Oh yes, I want to ask, when these people say they've got 10,000 a year, do they mean that they get a close amount of 10,000 EVERY year for the rest of their lives?
St. John seems a bit happier in this version than in the book, and not as handsome as he should be.
But I think it's soooo cute when Jane's so happy he's her cousin and hugs him, and he's happy too :). If only it hadn't been ruined by his damn proposal!
In the book St.John wanted Jane to study Hindustani and come with him to India. He does not love her in the slightest, but feels as if she will make a wonderful Missionary Wife.
@gaarafanslovecookies He could have done lol because P&P was also filmed not too far from here. I was at Darcy's home last saturday, I looked for him but he wasnt there :(
I guess the half cousin thing was to make it seem ok to a modern audience that St. John wanted to marry Jane. Yes, half first cousins are possible- they would be the children of half siblings. No one ever normally makes the distinction though.
I saw something in this movie that I never noticed from reading the book- Jane had 3 cousins on each side of her family- The 2 sisters on one side were hateful to her and each other. The two on the other side were loving. The brother on one side died because of his wickedness. The one on the other side gave his life doing something noble, as a missionary.
I think the relevation moment is the best performance by Ruth Wilson in the whole series. She seems to not know if she is going to faint, cry, run away or just switch it all off. She is really awesome!
What's wrong with pale, rehaired, freckled people?
And please note, those physical (genetics) characteristics are not England's exlusively. I'm pale, rehaired & freckeld but I am not inbred (thank you very much!)
Oh my, I was just wondering, why are they pronouncing everything so strange, can`t they speak normal? Then I realized, they speak german, stupid me. But it`s really confusing to hear your own mothertongue in an english film....I don`t even recognized that they were speaking not english!
Yeah I know, that's very strange sometimes. I've once heard Dutch in an English movie, and I was like: "What's that language!" But it was my mother language, because I'm Dutch :P. I didn't recognize it at first.
"He was the first to recognize me, and to love what he saw." Poor little Jane, wanting to love and be loved all her young life, it meant so much to her being loved by Rochester. She put up with his gruffness, his gambling and past behavior with women, and also the unexplained spookiness and danger of Thornfield. But the one thing she couldn't give him was letting go of her self-respect, her reputation. So painful that she had to leave him.
That is exactly the Jane I love. Very strong, very independent, but also very human. A timeless heroine, even if she of course has to relate to her own time.
when he said that traveling was her destiny i just kept thinking that at that moment she thought you are right traveling is my destiny but with Mr. Rochester. (sigh) it just breaks my heart...
@ingridsitems I agree completely! Can you imagine leaving behind Mr. Rochester and his AMAZING love and finding yourself being proposed to with the phrase "love is not an ingredient in this matter" ??? That kinda makes me nauseous.
i always imagined as jane having an inner beauty--not meaning she was plain and ugly-but there are people who are beautiful inside and you can see it when you look at their faces how good they are inside-that's how i always imagined jane
i know jane here is not totally plain and mr. rochester is not "repellant" as one might think--but good-looking here in a way--but in that day and age jane was described as "plain" but what is plain? dark hair and green eyes may not necessarily be plain--just more common than blonde and blue-eyed in the day-i never thought jane was plain even when reading the book-i just always thought it meant she wasn't super gorgeous in the way conventional society thought-i imagined she had inner beauty
i dont want to seem like a winer, but i wish they would put some effort into making the characters look the way they are in the book besides personality. they are greet acters, but i would be more believeable if they looked the way they are suppose to. (sry im not a good speller :P )
I think with St. John, you're right. In the book he is described blond, blueeyed and a lot more handsome than Mr. Rochester. And cold, cold, cold, while this guy here has quite a warm smile now and then.
I agree completely. St. John was meant to be the typical contrast character to Mr Rochester's Byronic hero, like Edgar Linton contrasts with Heathcliff in Wuthering Heights - the fair, pious, passionless character.
Yeah I guess my expectations were a bit too high, expecting them to be able to exercise their brains enough to realise that half-cousins are impossible.
You're very welcome. I'm glad I added to your enjoyment. :c) Seriously, wouldn't you love to see the labels on the family tree that the scriptwriter makes? First cousin once removed is probably...a third of a cousin! :D
@CookieFace2010 I couldn't believe it was him!!! I was watching it on the pc and I actually paused and went "It's that guy from Jane Eyre!" He totaly turned on the charm in that one :P
I hate it when I see characters like this who think that taking love out of the equation makes them holy. God's all about love. He created sex after all...
Jane said 'Your mother was my father's sister...' How does that make them only HALF cousins? Isn't that just first cousins? Or is it different in English culture? Wow, it's great to know that both of Jane's uncles cared so much about her. Good things do come to good people but not without pain, suffering, and loneliness to name a few. The two female cousins were so happy to be back home, they didn't want to leave to begin with! 5 Stars.
Why do they call each other "half-cousins"? What makes it half, and not simply a cousin? The relationship is not distant if his mother was her father's sister, right? They are first cousins...or am I missing something?
@Fulumirani You're not missing something. The scriptwriter and everyone who didn't question this "half-cousin" thing are missing something - at least HALF their brains.
Eso le pasa también a Mr.Darcy, él es borde y sin embargo estamos todas enamoradas de él...o no? (qué raras somos las mujeres jaja) Ahora en serio, ha habido otros St.John pero más sosos que el interpretado por Andrew Buchan. Y no me tentéis a poner el ejemplo, que no quiero ofender a nadie
Me ha encandilado este actor.Ha demostrado en este papel que,aún tratándose de un personaje frio, ha logrado aportar un poco de ternura al personaje y ha limado un poco de esa aspereza que pudiera tener el personaje original de la novela. Me decepcionó que Jane Eyre no le aceptara (yo sí le habría aceptado :-D ) Es un buen actor! Ha conseguido hacer el personaje más creible. Estoy deseando verle en más ocasiones. No sabía que al final St.John Rivers moría en la India :(
"St. John you do not love me."
"Love is not an ingrediant in this matter..."
Wrong thing to say St. John!!!
billythekid123654789 6 days ago
In the book, Mr. Rivers goes to India, not Africa! Anyone have any idea why they changed it? I know it's a bit silly of me to be pissed about a change that makes no difference to the story whatsoever, but still....it's not like changing the location to Africa served any great purpose. I would have loved it if they had been more faithful to the book and kept India as his destination.
Falooda87 6 days ago
Firstly, 20,000 pounds = ~$1.7m today...darn, I could so retire on that! Secondly, WTF is a half-cousin?? Never heard of that!! Her father and his mother were brother & sister - how does that make them HALF-COUSINS?? that's full on first-cousin family if you ask me. So the fact that he asks her to marry him is just way up high on the severely wrong scale to me!! I know, I know..it's 19th cent England..they were all in-bred...like the Royals..
PattyYummers 2 weeks ago
DERBYSHIRE?! Maybe he's friends with MR. COLLINS. XD
0amelia0 3 weeks ago 3
@0amelia0 He's more like friend of Mr. Wickham now.
anayellow1 1 day ago
"St. John, you do not love me."
"Love is not an ingredient in this matter."
oh yeah, I am definitely not marrying him now
ClaraBell3452 4 weeks ago 4
@ClaraBell3452 I would have been like, "Oh! I'm sorry, I didn't realize we were baking a cake!"
livelongnprosper92 2 weeks ago
@livelongnprosper92 more like a recipe for disaster
ClaraBell3452 2 weeks ago
this st. John is not like one in the book. :(
ClaraBell3452 4 weeks ago
John is handsome, but i feel sorry for him.
DangVuVN 1 month ago
-oh i'm sorry
-sorry? it is 20,000 pounds
-no,i'm sorry that my uncle is dead
Oh Mr. River =.="
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DangVuVN 1 month ago
Why is it whenever I see St. John (pronounced Sinjin so that way people don't think I'm spelling his name wrong) that I wish I had his hat? XDD
LadyFlamestress 2 months ago 3
i jst cant get use to her eyebrows -.- ... Otherwise shed be beautiful!!
Mjvcc145 3 months ago
@Mjvcc145 y? think she's got a nice arch. they could be a little thicker in the middle though. i don't like her double chin...
1aishe 2 months ago
In my opinion St John in the movie is a very likable guy, he smiles, he is rather friendly, but in the book he's as dry as a core of bread. He never smiles and is rather pushy. I dont like that character at all kinda :(
angelbunny225 3 months ago
@angelbunny225
He is meant to be Rochester's opposite in the novel. You are not supposed to like him =)
MsSilentia 3 months ago in playlist Jane Eyre 2006
Why's he hitting on his half-cousin?!
z3juila 3 months ago 2
@z3juila Well it was acceptable back then
MarenAnne66 3 months ago
in the other versions I have watched, singoen has never been jane eyre's cousin.
Sophie01761 4 months ago
@Sophie01761 he is her cousin in the book.
littlebuffolow 4 months ago
they were going to india in the book!!
TheFoodie24 4 months ago
@LOMSam Mr. Collins might be a tool, but this St. John is a douche bag...
MorningRose557 4 months ago
oh, their german is so cute!!
charly96str32 4 months ago
@RosyJuneDoll it's a rough estimate, but it would be worth around 2 million pounds in modern day money.
br0k3nbutt3rf1y 5 months ago in playlist Jane Eyre 2006
@br0k3nbutt3rf1y apparently its £45.5million (according to wikipedia!)
molestahhh 5 months ago
@molestahhh WOW! I wish i was jane eyre! Gets the perfect man, and money :P x
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@br0k3nbutt3rf1y apparently its £45.5million (according to wikipedia!)
molestahhh 5 months ago
I don't get how St John is Jane's half cousin... If St. John's mother was Jane's father sister, wouldn't that made him her paternal cousin n not half cousin?? I'm sorry i haven't really read the entire book yet :) but im a huge fan tho. :D
lurvemangomango 5 months ago
@lurvemangomango
There is no half-cousin in the novel. I saw a suggestion that the whole half-cousin thing would be a way to make the proposal more becoming to a modern audience. Cousin marriage were legio at the time.
But they would have been half-cousins if their parents were half-siblings.
MsSilentia 5 months ago in playlist Jane Eyre 2006 2
@MsSilentia ooo true.... But from what I've read from the book [I've been finding the page ever since :D HEHE !] they are definitely cousins.. so its probably they intepretated wrongly or like the suggestion said it was just their way of proposing to the audience lool
lurvemangomango 5 months ago
I like this version of st.john better than the 1983 version.Now THAT man was cold...this one is kind of cute.
1348577 5 months ago
@1348577
Yes, he is much nicer. But StJohn in the novel played an important part in Jane's growing inte the woman who could reject a reasonable "Christian" marriage and choose to seek Edward Rochester out instead. In the novel the choice between StJohn and Rochester is the choice between adjustment and self-reliance and the choice is so frightening to her so she is the last one to fully admit what she is up to. Both StJohn and the reader knows it earlier.
(Well maybe not all readers :-) )
MsSilentia 5 months ago
@MsSilentia There is no reason to complain, though. Sandy Welch has left out the philosophy from the book. And for the psychology in the story he is quite god enough.
MsSilentia 5 months ago
may i assume that stJ is actually selfish, in a way that pushing innocent woman into his life, to sacrifice for a career that only he himself interested in; trivializing and ignoring her feelings?
MSCHIRSTINE10 5 months ago 2
their german sounds funny and cute =)
Didelum 5 months ago
She wants fires in every room... in places they never were! LMFAO
corpsebride456 5 months ago
i love jane eyre
birdsong62 6 months ago 6
Jane is everything I would like to be as a woman. She is strong, she has values that ring true to me. But I find myself much weaker than her. That is why I don't expect Mr. Rochester to appear in my life. Because I am nothing like Jane.
babyamom2004 7 months ago 9
Kudos! Andrew Buchan! This is St. John. Full-blooded and fleshed out. Disciplined and formal and cold. Marvelous.
annwags 7 months ago
"Love is not an ingredient in this matter" Yeah but God dosnt want you marrying your sister either, ya know.
shaqdaddy11 7 months ago 16
St. John had dinner with someone in Derbyshire.... WAS IT MR. DARCY??
topmodel495 8 months ago 37
gut deutsch gesprochen-good german speaking
Lilliansnow 8 months ago
you're both too pale to go to africa!
best excuse ever
loyalfalconflutist 9 months ago 123
@HolidaysForLuu In the book it's Hindostanee, and his plan is to go to India (I'm not sure if it would still be called that though, it sounds quite outdated!)
hmesser91 9 months ago
@hmesser91 ... I think you are right, though the spelling is alittle off... It is Hindustani, but now I think it is refered to as Hindi... This is absolutely my favourtie version of Jane Eyre, with Samantha Morton and Ciaran Hinds a close second. My ver best regards from Wales Uk :0)x
wenglishsal 8 months ago 2
they pronounce "St. John" strangely... it sounds like Sinjin
levioletoiseau10 10 months ago 15
@levioletoiseau10 i think it´s a sort of nickname or way to say, like ma´m instead of madame.
859377 9 months ago
@levioletoiseau10 ... they do pronouce St John very strangly indeed, such are the complexaties of the English language I fear.. And yes it is spoken as 'sin-jin' or 'sin-jon'...
Do you remember '4 Wedding and a Funeral' with Huge Grant.. One of the Grooms name's was St John and the poor Vicar (Rowan Atkinson) just could not pronouce it at all... Best regards from Wales :0)x
wenglishsal 8 months ago
@levioletoiseau10 It was the british way to say it. We don't know exactly why it was pronounced that way, it just is. But yes, it is *very strange
Golddoesnotglitter 7 months ago
@morganmae2013 he said this because he(like he said) did not want to make her life full of sins like it would have been when jane had lived with edward like husband and wife. so, only to have each others company, he said they could live together like siblings but not like a pair of lovers. you understand? lke no "night visits" and so on ;D
CheerKoala 10 months ago 5
ok i know times were different back then, but first they talked of acting like brother and sister, then they decide to get married?
morganmae2013 10 months ago
oh jane finally got her family (:
morganmae2013 10 months ago
I was pretty surprised he asked her to marry him ! I was like what the heck?!!
curlyfry0809 11 months ago 8
i think i like THIS dude more than Mr Rochester. Why? i think its his smile. Such a handsome face! XD
sara9leanne 11 months ago 3
Is 20,000 pounds a lot?
Michelle451 11 months ago
@Michelle451 In that time, yes. Quite a lot. Enough to live extremely comfortably and never want for anything.
sylvanair 11 months ago
@Michelle451 Yes, it'd be almost 3 million dollars nowadays.
broadwayforever88 10 months ago
SlimJim!!!
RachelPitty 11 months ago 9
It's so pleasant to her my mother tongue amongst this english film! And their pronunciation isn't that bad...! :-)
vollkornflocke 11 months ago 3
0:17
omg this guy is such an anal virgo
if it was me, i would break that watch or beat him to death with it
jadeyes914 1 year ago
"We are Half cousins?!" BEST part in the programme, i can feel Jane's joy!
221Verona 1 year ago
Due to females rarely inheritting anything much, it was encouraged to marry within the family to ensure financial security.
Rawrbecca1992 1 year ago
He was going to India, not Africa!!
kamiikam 1 year ago 6
Why are they only "half cousins"?
whatdefrik 1 year ago
@whatdefrik i know.. like isnt cousins definition of being half related by one parent? lol
moviegurl16 1 year ago 2
@whatdefrik I'm assuming it might have been different in those days. When he says half cousins Jane instantly knew that it was his mother, and not his father, that was related to her father. So perhaps that has something to do with it....? lol maybe if it has been their fathers who were related they would have been "whole" cousins lol granted I'm really just pulling this from my ass and have no idea what I am talking about but I did find it curious she knew with out him telling her the details.
Britin101 1 year ago
@Britin101 Yeah, you're probably right, didn't even notice that until you said it lol
whatdefrik 1 year ago
@whatdefrik St. John's mother was Jane's father's half sister. They shared either a mother or a father in common, but not both. This was fairly common due to the high death rate for women in childbirth. Therefore St. John and Jane are half cousins.
Gilari 1 year ago 5
the part where she finds out she has cousins is the most moving part of this entire film in my opinion...finally jane has a family to call her own ...people to love her
and her generosity of sharing the inheritance wealth is truely beautiful kindness
great film!!
Tennymon 1 year ago 6
i love this movieeee
zerolegends22 1 year ago
Second hand love never works and people should love themselves enough to not settle for it. We only have one life and we deserve the best we can get out it and that doesn't include settling. Christ said we should love ourselves and that's right. The trick is to not be IN LOVE with ourselves. :) We have the right to like who we are. That's why Jane is so appealing. She knows who she is.
Songsmirth 1 year ago 7
John Rivers is WACK...wiggity, wiggity WACK!
seagirl1481 1 year ago 4
st john looks a little bit like Charlie Winston ;)
cococharlene 1 year ago
St. John Rivers.....drooooooool ;D
lillian90005 1 year ago
let's put the anti-stjohn-ness into context: i would choose him over mr collins (p&p) any day ;)
LOMSam1 1 year ago 127
@LOMSam1 LOL! that's a difficult one
seagirl1481 1 year ago
anybody agrees with me that St. John is a crazy character and more colder than Rochester who wanted to bring her into a life of sin/lied to her(whatever that isXD)?
Coldness and ignorance are the worst elements a character can have for me .
Kareena1988 1 year ago 6
No it isn't you may marry a familiy member of the fourth grade or more
marie10ification 1 year ago
Wtf? Isn't that incest to marry your (half)niece?
EllyYuki 1 year ago
@EllyYuki its half cousin, and back then, it was acceptable to marry your cousins.
katchitifyoucan 1 year ago
huh?!!!it was India and NOT Africa!!!!
ecstasy51 1 year ago
"But he was the first to recognize me!" Ugh, this story ruins real life!
musicalmeg19 1 year ago 8
@iluvspence
yes, but mr. darcy had a grand house to run, servants to pay, tenants to take care of, coaches and horses to keep up, and innumerable other expenses, all of which take away from his annual ten thousand a year. the money was tied in with the house- as the eldest mr. darcy, he was awarded the annuity. women, in this time, however, were left entire fortunes- i believe the miss bingleys had 20000 like jane here to themselves
GillyBean369 1 year ago 2
@iluvspence
Oh yes, I want to ask, when these people say they've got 10,000 a year, do they mean that they get a close amount of 10,000 EVERY year for the rest of their lives?
EverlastingxHope 1 year ago
The way St. John walks and stands is kinda dorky :/
EverlastingxHope 1 year ago
Wow. "You are enjoying German." "Yes, though it was eaiser learning french...""I want you to start learning a new language."LMAO!!!!
happybunny281 1 year ago 4
I love how after he tells Jane he her cousin St. John just keeps walking away. But janes mind is like: "What the Hell?????"
happybunny281 1 year ago 3
St. John seems a bit happier in this version than in the book, and not as handsome as he should be.
But I think it's soooo cute when Jane's so happy he's her cousin and hugs him, and he's happy too :). If only it hadn't been ruined by his damn proposal!
violentfille 1 year ago
was 20,000 pounds alot back then?
palebluedot 1 year ago
@palebluedot according to my british literature professor a man could live off well with only 300 pounds a year... so yeah 20,000 is A LOT
juhee589 1 year ago
@palebluedot
Well, Mr Darcy from Pride & Prejudice has 10,000 and he's bloody mad rich. Now, Jane has 20,000 :/ Which is worth millions today.
EverlastingxHope 1 year ago
@EverlastingxHope I think Mr. Darcy had 10000 a year...I think Jane Eyre has 20000 in all.
gssarma02 1 year ago
@EverlastingxHope he had 10.000 _a year_ that's different)
WatercolourHazard 1 year ago
@palebluedot
Dieabeth 1 year ago
St. John is such a callous bastard as he relates his story to her. I do not like him.
islandsylph 1 year ago
"We may do anything we like." I love this movie.
JennyLF1987 1 year ago
Derbyshire? Wouldn't it be something if Rivers met Darcy??? That would be freakin awesome!!!
WeirdButNotInsane 1 year ago 4
@WeirdButNotInsane lol or what about Mr. Rochester and Mr. Darcy meeting? That would be something, I would probably faint dead away.
anjalimudra603 1 year ago 13
In the book St.John wanted Jane to study Hindustani and come with him to India. He does not love her in the slightest, but feels as if she will make a wonderful Missionary Wife.
lavenderblossom 1 year ago
Wait. What? HALF cousins?
sonokosuzuki 1 year ago 5
i wonder if he met Mr. Darcy in Darbyshire perchance haha!
gaarafanslovecookies 1 year ago 8
@gaarafanslovecookies He could have done lol because P&P was also filmed not too far from here. I was at Darcy's home last saturday, I looked for him but he wasnt there :(
Wizzywend 1 year ago
@Wizzywend I live about 10 minutes away from where the BBC series of P&P was filmed. My dog has been in his lake.
Elriaen 1 year ago 4
it seems to me like jane gets prettier and prettier as the movie goes along...no?
TheMrsDubose 1 year ago 9
I guess the half cousin thing was to make it seem ok to a modern audience that St. John wanted to marry Jane. Yes, half first cousins are possible- they would be the children of half siblings. No one ever normally makes the distinction though.
rubyroo76 1 year ago 3
I saw something in this movie that I never noticed from reading the book- Jane had 3 cousins on each side of her family- The 2 sisters on one side were hateful to her and each other. The two on the other side were loving. The brother on one side died because of his wickedness. The one on the other side gave his life doing something noble, as a missionary.
rubyroo76 1 year ago 13
I think the relevation moment is the best performance by Ruth Wilson in the whole series. She seems to not know if she is going to faint, cry, run away or just switch it all off. She is really awesome!
MsSilentia 1 year ago
ewww, so much inbreeding went on in those days...
Snezhinka9 1 year ago
the picture of what real sisters should be
mariaeg123 1 year ago
how much is £10,000 in their time for us now?? :S
mychemfreak246 1 year ago
@mychemfreak246 several million dollers
mariaeg123 1 year ago
Trying to marry their cousins all the time and then they wonder why England is full of pale, redhaired, freckled people
giliellthesecond 1 year ago 11
@giliellthesecond
What's wrong with pale, rehaired, freckled people?
And please note, those physical (genetics) characteristics are not England's exlusively. I'm pale, rehaired & freckeld but I am not inbred (thank you very much!)
benjackson1999 1 year ago 3
@benjackson1999 no, youre just a mutant. (technically speaking, of course)
marenm3 1 year ago
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benjackson1999 1 year ago
@giliellthesecond wow, because that's not a huge generalisation.
TheDarkxRose 1 year ago
Andrew Buchan(St. John) is gorgeous!!!
Wulfstirfrie21 1 year ago 10
Was ist das? Das ist ein Handschuh!
Oh my, I was just wondering, why are they pronouncing everything so strange, can`t they speak normal? Then I realized, they speak german, stupid me. But it`s really confusing to hear your own mothertongue in an english film....I don`t even recognized that they were speaking not english!
MsMultifruit 1 year ago 6
Yeah I know, that's very strange sometimes. I've once heard Dutch in an English movie, and I was like: "What's that language!" But it was my mother language, because I'm Dutch :P. I didn't recognize it at first.
MachteldD 1 year ago
The little girls remind me of the girls my mum teaches as a classroom assistant.
TheBuff94 1 year ago
"He was the first to recognize me, and to love what he saw." Poor little Jane, wanting to love and be loved all her young life, it meant so much to her being loved by Rochester. She put up with his gruffness, his gambling and past behavior with women, and also the unexplained spookiness and danger of Thornfield. But the one thing she couldn't give him was letting go of her self-respect, her reputation. So painful that she had to leave him.
ThumperBunny43 2 years ago 150
@ThumperBunny43
That is exactly the Jane I love. Very strong, very independent, but also very human. A timeless heroine, even if she of course has to relate to her own time.
MsSilentia 1 year ago 6
when he said that traveling was her destiny i just kept thinking that at that moment she thought you are right traveling is my destiny but with Mr. Rochester. (sigh) it just breaks my heart...
monkeyface143 2 years ago
"Love is not an ingredient in this matter..." Brrrr.....
ingridsitems 2 years ago 218
@ingridsitems Brrr is correct. Geez, that one even hit me hard.
embreydl 1 year ago 2
@ingridsitems I agree completely! Can you imagine leaving behind Mr. Rochester and his AMAZING love and finding yourself being proposed to with the phrase "love is not an ingredient in this matter" ??? That kinda makes me nauseous.
musicalmeg19 1 year ago 11
@ingridsitems I actually shivered...
BowieQueenSnape 1 year ago
i always imagined as jane having an inner beauty--not meaning she was plain and ugly-but there are people who are beautiful inside and you can see it when you look at their faces how good they are inside-that's how i always imagined jane
msstarbright91 2 years ago 9
i know jane here is not totally plain and mr. rochester is not "repellant" as one might think--but good-looking here in a way--but in that day and age jane was described as "plain" but what is plain? dark hair and green eyes may not necessarily be plain--just more common than blonde and blue-eyed in the day-i never thought jane was plain even when reading the book-i just always thought it meant she wasn't super gorgeous in the way conventional society thought-i imagined she had inner beauty
msstarbright91 2 years ago 10
i dont want to seem like a winer, but i wish they would put some effort into making the characters look the way they are in the book besides personality. they are greet acters, but i would be more believeable if they looked the way they are suppose to. (sry im not a good speller :P )
1956chelsea 2 years ago 4
I think with St. John, you're right. In the book he is described blond, blueeyed and a lot more handsome than Mr. Rochester. And cold, cold, cold, while this guy here has quite a warm smile now and then.
Rabauwds 2 years ago 9
I agree completely. St. John was meant to be the typical contrast character to Mr Rochester's Byronic hero, like Edgar Linton contrasts with Heathcliff in Wuthering Heights - the fair, pious, passionless character.
MarqueeMoon95 1 year ago 4
To all who were confused: In the book, Jane says "You three, then, are my cousins; half our blood on each side flows from the same source?"
I think that's where the half-cousins comes from.
Lenorawakefield 2 years ago
@Lenorawakefield Whoever made "half our blood on each side" into "half-cousins" is an idiot. But you're right, that's where they probably got it.
imasinnerimasaint 2 years ago
It's Hollywood. You can't expect them to get it right all the time. haha
Lenorawakefield 2 years ago
Yeah I guess my expectations were a bit too high, expecting them to be able to exercise their brains enough to realise that half-cousins are impossible.
imasinnerimasaint 2 years ago 4
@imasinnerimasaint I read your comment, and it made the whole "OMG YOU'RE MY HALF-COUSIN" scene disgustingly hilarious. Thank you.
xenelith 2 years ago
You're very welcome. I'm glad I added to your enjoyment. :c) Seriously, wouldn't you love to see the labels on the family tree that the scriptwriter makes? First cousin once removed is probably...a third of a cousin! :D
imasinnerimasaint 2 years ago
LOL you're awesome XD Now I really do wish I could see the family tree. Hahahaha (that just made me legit lol)
xenelith 2 years ago
2:00 JANE EYRE's history
suelizjohnson 2 years ago
St. John is ADORABLE.
He's so sweet too. I loved him on "Bones" as well!!
CookieFace2010 2 years ago
@CookieFace2010 I couldn't believe it was him!!! I was watching it on the pc and I actually paused and went "It's that guy from Jane Eyre!" He totaly turned on the charm in that one :P
Classiclover4ever 1 year ago
How old is she? I mean, not Jane, but actress?
uggnytia 2 years ago
@uggnytia: I think this was her first major role soon after leaving acting school. she must have been twenty-ish i guess. hope that helps :)
olooshia 2 years ago
there is no such thing as a half cousins. what the heck. ;p lol
RogueRoses91 2 years ago 2
Watching St. John here...I am bizarrely reminded of a Vulcan.
Araeph 2 years ago
@Araeph
hahaha XD
missstripedsocks 1 year ago
they call him sinjin because he is actually chinese
caradeescusado 2 years ago 3
its also kind of ironic because he is a pastor too! lol SINjin
hopefaithloverespect 2 years ago
hahahahha
caradeescusado 2 years ago
@hopefaithloverespect You know it's actually St John, right? You know that's how St John is pronounced? As Sinjin?
imasinnerimasaint 2 years ago
I hate it when I see characters like this who think that taking love out of the equation makes them holy. God's all about love. He created sex after all...
Lenorawakefield 2 years ago 6
Jane said 'Your mother was my father's sister...' How does that make them only HALF cousins? Isn't that just first cousins? Or is it different in English culture? Wow, it's great to know that both of Jane's uncles cared so much about her. Good things do come to good people but not without pain, suffering, and loneliness to name a few. The two female cousins were so happy to be back home, they didn't want to leave to begin with! 5 Stars.
01Caroline 2 years ago
Why do they call each other "half-cousins"? What makes it half, and not simply a cousin? The relationship is not distant if his mother was her father's sister, right? They are first cousins...or am I missing something?
Fulumirani 2 years ago
@Fulumirani You're not missing something. The scriptwriter and everyone who didn't question this "half-cousin" thing are missing something - at least HALF their brains.
imasinnerimasaint 2 years ago
Eso le pasa también a Mr.Darcy, él es borde y sin embargo estamos todas enamoradas de él...o no? (qué raras somos las mujeres jaja) Ahora en serio, ha habido otros St.John pero más sosos que el interpretado por Andrew Buchan. Y no me tentéis a poner el ejemplo, que no quiero ofender a nadie
lluna69 2 years ago
ahahaha St. John is very attractive in the movie :3 Too bad about his character though.. If he wasn't such a freak I would love to marry him
kaytee1190 2 years ago 2
St. John is so cute.
MissVaudevillain 2 years ago 3
i love st john -v-
madaleinekkcky 2 years ago
Me ha encandilado este actor.Ha demostrado en este papel que,aún tratándose de un personaje frio, ha logrado aportar un poco de ternura al personaje y ha limado un poco de esa aspereza que pudiera tener el personaje original de la novela. Me decepcionó que Jane Eyre no le aceptara (yo sí le habría aceptado :-D ) Es un buen actor! Ha conseguido hacer el personaje más creible. Estoy deseando verle en más ocasiones. No sabía que al final St.John Rivers moría en la India :(
lluna69 2 years ago
Oh I don't want to marry you while we're unrelated, but once I find out you're my cousin, I'm in love with you and want to marry you!
What a confused man.
ameefmu 2 years ago 11
Not really it was quite common in those days to marry your cousin. Plus he didnt want love more companionship so Jane is actually the ideal choice.
dramafreak29 2 years ago 6
@ameefmu i know! he's ridiculous. 0_0
FaustianDreams 2 years ago
aww what jane says about Rochester at the end of the video is so adorable and the book is amazing thanks for uploading!
RentandWicked 2 years ago 11
i dislike St. John Rivers!
caurocks 2 years ago 3
I don't know a single person who likes him)))
He's even more ghastly in the book.
WatercolourHazard 2 years ago 4