If I was to make an adventure game with VGA graphics, Should I write it for OS/2 and then port it to DOS or should I just write it for DOS and just code in stuff that would allow the DOS version to run on OS/2
@REPOMAN24722 It actually appears to me to look virtually the same as the Windows 3.x UI. And it should, as both use more or less the same GUI. OS/2 called it the "Presentation Manager," while Windows 3.x called it "Program/File Manager."
@mrFalconlem - OS/2 was very popular w/ point-of-sale and similar systems...even as late as 2005! It was mostly geared more towards industry than end-users, though. NT was the same, though...it was never meant for home users, though some tiny-dicked guys who THOUGHT they were power users had to have it. I had to do some NT support back in the late 90's and HATED it...especially dealing w/ those aforementioned d-bags.
@xnonsuchx I am one of those tiny-dicked guys who had to have Windows NT 3.51 as well as OS/2. My father must be well hung, cause he never liked those, and stuck to Win95, 98, XP, and now 7. My dick got really small recently, cause I bought myself Macintosh Classic and Macintosh Classic II of eBay with OS 6.0.8 and 7.0.1, respectively. What I do with it? MIDI sequencing! MOTU Performer or Opcode Vision anyone?
@bkmoore773 Another problem with OS/2 was the lack of support for most sound cards, and Chicago supported all of them. Most people who was no expert didn't want to deal with the lack of support. I still have Win95 on one computer here now and one day I will fix the computer which I have OS/2 4.0, Win2000, and Solaris 8 on. I have each OS on a separate drive and uses a switch to boot up into the particular OS.
I never used OS/2 2.1, but did buy a copy of 3.0 from a base exchange and tried it out. It worked great on the computer after I figured out how to install it, but found out in a hurry that the sound didn't work on my computer. I had the same problem with version 4.0 as well. You needed a specific sound card in order to get sound. Serenity Systems made it easier when they got the rights to sell the OS.
I bought OS/2 starting with version 2.1 and ran a DOS BBS on it using a 386 with 8 meg of RAM. It ran beautifully, and when I expanded to 16 meg several months later, it ran even better. It was truly the best OS of the time.
OS/2 was a very cool OS. The problem was that people were using Windows and did not want to switch their systems plus obtain new applications. Sometimes the better solution does not win out. The history of computers is a constant reminder of this.
@ace942 Many people had problems installing the OS on their computers, and I had that problem with version 3.0, and 4.0 also. eCS made a few changes where it would install easier. Many windows users didn't want to deal with the changes which involved making changes to the config.sys, and went back to windows which was easier.
@Imprezaman555 I actually ran OS/2 for a few months between Windows for Workgroups 3.11 and Windows 95. All my geek friends were jealous... Of course it was pirated. Maybe 8 or 9 floppies?
In the mid-90s I was a 24 year old working for the State of California, and I remember some old fart IT guy always raving about how OS/2 was technically SUPERIOR to Windows 95.
Big fan of os/2 but ibm seemed to have no interest in pushing it. Even ibm laptops weren't issued with them! Sad, because it was a great OS for the time.
Not really true. OS/2 was originally designed by IBM in the late 1980s, coded by Microsoft. Windows NT was very similar in both design and function, but the two OS are not the same. OS/2, though, was perhaps the first mainstream OS to be fully 32-bit and support real multi-tasking. Other OS did exist at the time such as NeXTstep and even various other Unix derivatives, but none were really all that popular or widely used.
Windows NT ultimately "won" the war when XP was released in 2001.
I always thought they based NT on the work on OS/2 they did. I still have a copy of OS2 3.x somewhere, back in the days (with what linux 0.99 and bsd still in lawsuits) OS/2 was a really nice thing. Thanks for explaining.
No, it wasn't. OS/2 was not a "successor" to MS-DOS anymore than Windows 3.x or Windows NT was. It was simply another OS, but one that had real multi-tasking and was fully 32-bit.
What happened to OS/2? Microsoft worked on the next version of OS/2 to at the end, rename it Windows NT 3.1!! (yes, NT is just OS/2).....Funny thing was, when NT took off and everyone started saying how cool it was..that it was what they needed to replace windows 3.1..all I could say was yes, I know..OS/2 is very cool..I told you so...
@OZtwo NT is NOTHING like OS/2. The only commonality among them is the ability for windows NT to run OS/2 command line programs (and that is gone) (yes XP, Vista and 7 are all NT).
OS/2 was object oriented which NT WAS/IS not and so on.
@christo930 well, yes, the WPS was Object Oriented. Got an old NT non bootable disk laying around?? Try booting it up and see what you get :) As you look at the error message, ask you self: did I format this in OS/2 or Windows NT??
OS/2 was the best there ever was, besides Unix and what is keeping Windows alive to this date.
The Pentium sampled in 92, shipped in 93, but was absurdly expensive until 95/6. Just the chip cost more than a 68030 Mac computer, top of the line at the time.
OS/2 by IBM was a very efficient operating system. It was fast even on the older processors and it could run anything that you installed on it. If an app crashed, it was the only thing that crashed. The operating system remained running and recovered nicely. If you were the developer, you could even get dumps to help you understand why the app failed. It's too bad IBM couldn't market the thing properly. It would have been a Microsoft-beater.
The biggest downside of OS/2 was how slow it is. Even on P2 at 400mhz, os2 2.1 was slow as shit. It's also incredibly complicated and notoriously difficult to support (I know 1st hand, I supported 200 OS/2 machines). REXX scripting was nice and allowed for automated updates, but complexity and slowness always killed it for me.
@starsiegeplayer I never supported warp 4, but warp 3 I did and it was very slow, even on p2 at 400mhz. with 512mb ram, especially booting and application launching. In other ways, it was incredible, especially comm manager and it's support for img imaging on the 2nd full screen monitor that actually has a MF address.
@FutureiMacuser Yeah, I noticed the second I hit "Post" that I did a massive necrobump!
Well, at least for a time while this stays on the top of the comments list, others won't bug you about it! Don't ya hate how stuff gets top-rated and you don't know about it? XD
Evolution shrunk the os/2, it is still a good administrative program for industrial printing though, cmd still works, it's major problem is link wise it is geared to office groups, and not nimble for net groups, ibm servers are/were geared for specific administrative, development and command functions, there are more than 70 com structs in competition for OS, collaboritive usages, xerox icons, amiga"boxes", norway databases, arps "admin" build progressive systems,it grew,it grows,it's older now.
i think it's interesting they were discussing the object oriented os, dropping and draging icons. this is 1992, i thought apple invented that in 1983.
My favorite part was the demo of "Sound Impression." Light years away from today's DAWs (e.g., Pro Tools, Logic, Digital Performer) but wow! What a flashback! Great vid.
lol... now where did i got sound impression on my pc?
...hmm maybe ultrasound software bundle.
kinmanyuen 1 month ago
I had sound impressions when I had Windows 95 back in the mid 90's. It was a good piece of software for it's time.
andymate2006 2 months ago
Then came NT 4....
Diskoboy1974 4 months ago
no body sew gnu-linux coming :)
MunzirSuliman 4 months ago
I have 4 Copies , i,m an OS/2 Programmer - M$ & IBM worked together on it , then IBM bought it up , it still gets online today :) QC
Quaaludedude714 5 months ago
The only 32 bit platform on the market?
What about Acorn's RISC OS?
pigeonshouse 5 months ago
If I was to make an adventure game with VGA graphics, Should I write it for OS/2 and then port it to DOS or should I just write it for DOS and just code in stuff that would allow the DOS version to run on OS/2
Dakkiller1 6 months ago
lol the nigger had to mix some tapes!!!!
andreshates 9 months ago
OS/2. Where's the other half?
chipdude72 9 months ago
looks much better than windows 3.1x
REPOMAN24722 11 months ago
@REPOMAN24722 It actually appears to me to look virtually the same as the Windows 3.x UI. And it should, as both use more or less the same GUI. OS/2 called it the "Presentation Manager," while Windows 3.x called it "Program/File Manager."
drygnfyre 10 months ago
damn this is old
REPOMAN24722 11 months ago
Greg. Token.
jkirk1626 11 months ago
I just feel so out of place here, bye.
Geert365 1 year ago
UPS Worldport hub in Louisville Ky, actually processes all their packages by scaling OS/2 db2... lol.
mrFalconlem 1 year ago
@mrFalconlem - OS/2 was very popular w/ point-of-sale and similar systems...even as late as 2005! It was mostly geared more towards industry than end-users, though. NT was the same, though...it was never meant for home users, though some tiny-dicked guys who THOUGHT they were power users had to have it. I had to do some NT support back in the late 90's and HATED it...especially dealing w/ those aforementioned d-bags.
xnonsuchx 9 months ago
@xnonsuchx I am one of those tiny-dicked guys who had to have Windows NT 3.51 as well as OS/2. My father must be well hung, cause he never liked those, and stuck to Win95, 98, XP, and now 7. My dick got really small recently, cause I bought myself Macintosh Classic and Macintosh Classic II of eBay with OS 6.0.8 and 7.0.1, respectively. What I do with it? MIDI sequencing! MOTU Performer or Opcode Vision anyone?
dvamateur 8 months ago
@dvamateur - Um...OK.
xnonsuchx 8 months ago
@bkmoore773 Another problem with OS/2 was the lack of support for most sound cards, and Chicago supported all of them. Most people who was no expert didn't want to deal with the lack of support. I still have Win95 on one computer here now and one day I will fix the computer which I have OS/2 4.0, Win2000, and Solaris 8 on. I have each OS on a separate drive and uses a switch to boot up into the particular OS.
semco72057 1 year ago
I never used OS/2 2.1, but did buy a copy of 3.0 from a base exchange and tried it out. It worked great on the computer after I figured out how to install it, but found out in a hurry that the sound didn't work on my computer. I had the same problem with version 4.0 as well. You needed a specific sound card in order to get sound. Serenity Systems made it easier when they got the rights to sell the OS.
semco72057 1 year ago
I bought OS/2 starting with version 2.1 and ran a DOS BBS on it using a 386 with 8 meg of RAM. It ran beautifully, and when I expanded to 16 meg several months later, it ran even better. It was truly the best OS of the time.
tomperanteau 1 year ago
its called sound oppression and they have a black guy showing it off WTF
Jamman88888 1 year ago
Don't copy that floppy!
MrCausePain 1 year ago 2
@MrCausePain thats so funny
computerhelperhacker 1 year ago
OS/2 was a very cool OS. The problem was that people were using Windows and did not want to switch their systems plus obtain new applications. Sometimes the better solution does not win out. The history of computers is a constant reminder of this.
ace942 1 year ago
@ace942 Many people had problems installing the OS on their computers, and I had that problem with version 3.0, and 4.0 also. eCS made a few changes where it would install easier. Many windows users didn't want to deal with the changes which involved making changes to the config.sys, and went back to windows which was easier.
semco72057 1 year ago
wow, that looks incredible next to win3, and hundreds of (computer) years before win95
Imprezaman555 1 year ago
@Imprezaman555 I actually ran OS/2 for a few months between Windows for Workgroups 3.11 and Windows 95. All my geek friends were jealous... Of course it was pirated. Maybe 8 or 9 floppies?
aidanday 1 year ago
audicity does the same job :) thats like... its ancesstor from like trillion of computer years ago
trevormeuse16 1 year ago
They're saying that using simple file-extension association means it's object oriented. Buzzword central.
gli7utubeo 1 year ago
So i guess that OS/2 magazine didn't work out :)
Terminator4004 1 year ago
In the mid-90s I was a 24 year old working for the State of California, and I remember some old fart IT guy always raving about how OS/2 was technically SUPERIOR to Windows 95.
And then OS/2 seems to have vanished.
JesusManson323 1 year ago
Big fan of os/2 but ibm seemed to have no interest in pushing it. Even ibm laptops weren't issued with them! Sad, because it was a great OS for the time.
kristell9 1 year ago
was os/2 unix or linux? or 9x or was it just a shell to run on dos?
aviator1223 2 years ago
@aviator1223 os/2 was what eventually m$ took (and programmed together with ibm) and named nt. os/2 was much better imho.
ascheepe 2 years ago
Not really true. OS/2 was originally designed by IBM in the late 1980s, coded by Microsoft. Windows NT was very similar in both design and function, but the two OS are not the same. OS/2, though, was perhaps the first mainstream OS to be fully 32-bit and support real multi-tasking. Other OS did exist at the time such as NeXTstep and even various other Unix derivatives, but none were really all that popular or widely used.
Windows NT ultimately "won" the war when XP was released in 2001.
drygnfyre 1 year ago
I always thought they based NT on the work on OS/2 they did. I still have a copy of OS2 3.x somewhere, back in the days (with what linux 0.99 and bsd still in lawsuits) OS/2 was a really nice thing. Thanks for explaining.
ascheepe 1 year ago
@drygnfyre Windows won long before XP with release of 3.1 and then 95 and NT. 3.1+DOS basically took 90% of the desktop OS's.
alex9044 1 year ago
OS/2 is it's own Operation system.
It was the successor to DOS.
WINANDMACNERD 2 years ago
No, it wasn't. OS/2 was not a "successor" to MS-DOS anymore than Windows 3.x or Windows NT was. It was simply another OS, but one that had real multi-tasking and was fully 32-bit.
drygnfyre 1 year ago
OS/2 was actually a proprietary designed by IBM but coded by Microsoft. It was based on Unix but was also able to run MS-DOS applications.
And no, it wasn't a "shell" of MS-DOS the way Windows 3.x was. It was its own kernels with its own executables and APIs.
drygnfyre 1 year ago
LOL at 90's intro.
Xzeleous 2 years ago
What happened to OS/2? Microsoft worked on the next version of OS/2 to at the end, rename it Windows NT 3.1!! (yes, NT is just OS/2).....Funny thing was, when NT took off and everyone started saying how cool it was..that it was what they needed to replace windows 3.1..all I could say was yes, I know..OS/2 is very cool..I told you so...
OZtwo 2 years ago
@OZtwo NT is NOTHING like OS/2. The only commonality among them is the ability for windows NT to run OS/2 command line programs (and that is gone) (yes XP, Vista and 7 are all NT).
OS/2 was object oriented which NT WAS/IS not and so on.
christo930 2 years ago
@christo930 well, yes, the WPS was Object Oriented. Got an old NT non bootable disk laying around?? Try booting it up and see what you get :) As you look at the error message, ask you self: did I format this in OS/2 or Windows NT??
OS/2 was the best there ever was, besides Unix and what is keeping Windows alive to this date.
OZtwo 1 year ago
Are you sure this is 92 and not 94? I don't remember the Pentium coming that early.
christo930 2 years ago
@christo930
The Pentium sampled in 92, shipped in 93, but was absurdly expensive until 95/6. Just the chip cost more than a 68030 Mac computer, top of the line at the time.
reiknir 2 years ago
32, go 64!
nickeox 2 years ago
OS/2 by IBM was a very efficient operating system. It was fast even on the older processors and it could run anything that you installed on it. If an app crashed, it was the only thing that crashed. The operating system remained running and recovered nicely. If you were the developer, you could even get dumps to help you understand why the app failed. It's too bad IBM couldn't market the thing properly. It would have been a Microsoft-beater.
tipoomaster 2 years ago
The biggest downside of OS/2 was how slow it is. Even on P2 at 400mhz, os2 2.1 was slow as shit. It's also incredibly complicated and notoriously difficult to support (I know 1st hand, I supported 200 OS/2 machines). REXX scripting was nice and allowed for automated updates, but complexity and slowness always killed it for me.
christo930 2 years ago
@christo930 complexity yeah... but slow? I have warp4 installed on an pentium 60 and it feels like the pentium is overpowered.
starsiegeplayer 1 year ago
@starsiegeplayer I never supported warp 4, but warp 3 I did and it was very slow, even on p2 at 400mhz. with 512mb ram, especially booting and application launching. In other ways, it was incredible, especially comm manager and it's support for img imaging on the 2nd full screen monitor that actually has a MF address.
christo930 1 year ago
wicked comb-over.
Eskimo50 2 years ago
My soundblaster came preloaded with a very similar programme!
isthisnickvalid 2 years ago
how did you get a 27 min vid on youtube
weed4smoker20 2 years ago
he has a special directors account
WESTSIEEDE 2 years ago
"micro tower" design rofl xD
gosh that must've ruled at the time
jaya2009 3 years ago
"we recommend you have 6 MB of memory" :D
luckystrke 3 years ago
They refrenced "Dont Copy that Floppy" at about 1:10 or 1:00
FutureiMacuser 3 years ago 10
@FutureiMacuser They are the ones who created "don't copy that floppy"
kurisux 4 months ago
@kurisux
Yeah, I've realized that in the last two years. XD
FutureiMacuser 4 months ago
@FutureiMacuser Yeah, I noticed the second I hit "Post" that I did a massive necrobump!
Well, at least for a time while this stays on the top of the comments list, others won't bug you about it! Don't ya hate how stuff gets top-rated and you don't know about it? XD
kurisux 4 months ago
@FutureiMacuser that's because the software publishers foundation produced that video, hee hee!
WolfCoder 3 months ago
@WolfCoder
Yeah, I know. It's been about two years since I posted that. :P
FutureiMacuser 3 months ago
1992 or 1982? Shyte, man... I'm expecting You Can't Do That On Television to come on next.
bridgetown1966 3 years ago
Evolution shrunk the os/2, it is still a good administrative program for industrial printing though, cmd still works, it's major problem is link wise it is geared to office groups, and not nimble for net groups, ibm servers are/were geared for specific administrative, development and command functions, there are more than 70 com structs in competition for OS, collaboritive usages, xerox icons, amiga"boxes", norway databases, arps "admin" build progressive systems,it grew,it grows,it's older now.
whenultra 3 years ago 2
What the heck is wrong with that Edwin dude's jaw?
LuisWithAZ 3 years ago 2
I saw OS/2 in it's original shrink wrap in a thrift store
luigi2999 3 years ago
wow those are nice compys lol that music is like freaking furturistic
sparky4444444444444 3 years ago
I'll give £10 to any person who sees the joke on the first main screen lol
burkezillar 3 years ago
is the joke that OS/2 failed to beat windows
livebabylive15 3 years ago
Show number 1024. As in how many bytes in a megabyte.
chazcov08 3 years ago
1024 bytes in a kilobyte.
I miss that Cheifet guy.
restcure 2 years ago
Correct. Damn, I knew that! Must have been a LATE night entry. D'oh!
chazcov08 2 years ago
i think it's interesting they were discussing the object oriented os, dropping and draging icons. this is 1992, i thought apple invented that in 1983.
kwg2005 3 years ago
you are right.
linuxreuben 3 years ago
But it's the first time it's conveniently on a PC. Beside 1.0, 2.0, 3.0 and other Windows versions.
TheGeek1028 3 years ago
Actually, I think Xerox 'invented' it in the early 70's.
LuisWithAZ 3 years ago 8
I had similar thoughts, the moderator does not seem impressed too!
Sciesch 2 years ago
My favorite part was the demo of "Sound Impression." Light years away from today's DAWs (e.g., Pro Tools, Logic, Digital Performer) but wow! What a flashback! Great vid.
freakybuzz 4 years ago 2
hindsight is a great thing.......
robonuggie 4 years ago 2