To listen to Beethoven is to hear the passions of humankind. In the space of a few bars one is transported from serenity thru great joy,excited passion into contemplation and then remorse and great sorrow. A truly inspiring journey made even moreso by his hearing loss which I suspect is part of the reason for the passion
Yeah, I actually wrote an essay on this topic (stupid GE class) but as I did my research on how Beethoven's music is used in popular media currently, I came to the conclusion that yes, it sucks. But this is what happens to all types of great art and knowledge. The past is the foundation for the present, and the present will be the foundation for the future. We might not agree with it, but these are just the vicissitudes of time.
Classical music has been reaching the masses via the pop culture route since it's been paired with film, stage performance, art, literature, or the imagination itself. So essentially all of modern man's existence. Simply because this movement was used in a movie and that has led to a resurgence in its popularity does not diminish its quality or importance!That kind of snobbery contributed to the image it has today!As classical players/enthusiasts, we should be rejoicing that people are listening
I Love Beethoven and I love this symphony, but I'm still puzzled as to how the second movement is loved so much as the favorite movement. I mean it's a great movement, and as far as funeral marches go it's great. But if I had to pick my top five Beethoven movements from his symphonies this probably would not make my top 5.
@jscott1000 The beginning of the this movement, with the low strings, is brooding, haunting, dramatic and in a way, frightening. It starts out soft and slowly builds to a powerful, forceful creature. I can easily see how the movement is loved or, at least, the beginning of it is loved more so than the whole movement perhaps.
Who cares what movie someone heard such and such piece on. Discuss the composer, the conductor, or the orchestra, or gtfo. I see this all over youtube. Any piece even remotely well known goes viral briefly because of an inane pop-culture reference. No thanks.
@BimLanders Whoa buddy don't get all butt hurt because people want to talk about what movie they heard it from. Let people talk about what they want to talk about.
Carlos Kleiber - the man about whom was said that he was only conducting when his fridge reached a certain level of emptiness... according to Karajan...
This movement makews me think of loss, love, longing for what appears unreachable; tripping and falling and getting up and go where you are meant to be... god it sounds pretentious, but seriously that's what I feel.
@GhibliOriginals i remember it on the original Phantom of the Opera from the early 20th century. i actually heard it again on Knowing, which is how i found out the name. to the pretentious jerks who think movies aren't worth discussing in relation to music, these songs would unfortunately never be heard by much of the populace w/o movies. there is nothing wrong with discussing it. because of these movies, i now know the name of this wonderful score and can look up the sheet music.
זה הפרק הסימפוני הגאוני ביותר שחובר אי פעם ע"י מלחין כלשהו. חבל שאני לא מוצא את הביצוע של הסימפוניה הזו של התזמורת הסימפונית של קולומביה בניצוחו של ברונו וולטר האגדי. וולטר מצליח לחדור לנשמתו של בטהובן ומוביל את התזמורת לשיא היופי והשלמות של נגינה וירטואוזית ומרגשת.
Hmm, pizzicato instead of arco in the strings for the last couple of measures...does anyone know what the original marking is? Both Karajan and Furtwangler have it played arco.
@tacticalstation I don't want to be pretentious, I just find it sad that now the classical music works are just known as soundtracks of movies or advertisings... but you are right, better be appreciated in that way than nothing... I'm just a pianist worried to see how classical music is underrated...
You are not being pretentious at all, you are right, this wonderful music is underrated, it is sad, but there it is.
Enjoy it, Beethoven was a great gift to mankind and thankfully we have a man like Kleiber and these musicians to bring it to us in all its stark beauty.
confuse genuine high aesthetic standards with mere pretentiousness.
It is not for those of us who value Beethoven over whomever the fuck is on the top 40 charts at the moment to demonstrate that we are not pretentious; any onus is squarely on the philistines to show that they are not such pitiful philistines.
The "I'm sorry, but" should ALWAYS be uttered by them; whatever apology, tact, blush or concession that may be owed is ALWAYS theirs.
@2dollarkevin "Impending" means something is about to happen. Has not happened yet but will very soon. And you are writing in English far better than I do in Spanish. Nice.
@kloii Agreed, a truly amazing piece of music, thrillingly performed. Nonetheless, the fact that it has been used for two of the greatest movies of the past year only underlines its brilliance. And besides, the more people learn to appreciate this great music, the better.
Holy Shit!!! hahaha I started to listen only today to this movement, and I kept wondering... Where did I hear this... where did I last hear this. Hahaha, at last I remembered it was from the King's Speech. When I first heard it in the movie I instantly loved it. Today, that I forgot where I last heard it, I thought to my self that I loved the movement because it reminded me of how great people dealt with hardships... Wonder why they put it on The King's Speech...
@kloii If people come to discover good music through a movie then that's fine with me. Not everybody came out of the womb whistling Beethoven like you did.
@Laindal when I heard it in The King's Speech I knew it reminded me of some other movie, and it was kind of slow-mo and morbid, but I didn't remember which... Problem solved. :) Haha
@edimus123 I guess one should be thankful that some pieces get used over and over again in movies and encourage people to listen to classical music.....
@GaolisVideoLog Indeed... I've been geting my kicks with several ost's around there. My own concern is that just a few pieces here and there that really, really grab me so I would wish there'd be an extreme compilation of the best works from the best you know? Maybe there are and I don't know... Oh... In the case of this piece it was Irreversible that caught me. Amazing movie, powerful yet very brutal... Cheers!
we played this last year in our orchestra. there's no words to describe it when you're sitting right in the violins and listen to the harmonic movements in the strings - more than orgasmic...
@TheGameTagers Try to copy the partiture to Finale, or Sibelius and play with that programs, and after repeat your sentence! Or just compare the like/dislike rate of other B7m2 performances...
@bence778 I'm not downing Kleiber, I think he's a great conductor. At the time of that post (five months ago) most of the comments were all about Kleiber. Most people just didn't seem to give Beethoven himself enough credit.
@TheGameTagers I see. But I'ld say again, as there are performances on youtube, we can speak about performer, and composer. Me, I don't really like Beethoven, but adore Kleiber, so guess I'ld have spoken about Kleiber, and would not have mentioned Beethoven. But anyway, it's just me, and seems that many people thinks in a different way, coz yours is the second favourite comment;)
The genius that was Carlos Kleiber. This is so amazing, so haunting, that it makes you weep.
The conducting style of CK is not only a joy to watch but it also helps you to get into the music even more. A master painter of music at work. I so wish that I could have seen him live.
"Exciting!!" ...So exciting that the audience has to show their approval by coughing at the end of this incredible movement, something that just begs for sudden applause. I love classical music, but I hate some parts of the culture that comes with it.
@primasqualdrina It's a long story... Beethoven originally marked the ending pizzicato. During a rehearsal, Beethoven complained to the conductor that he couldn't hear the strings when the winds enter. The conductor marked "arco" in the manuscript (the mark still exists in the manuscript). It is unlikely that Beethoven would have been too keen on a conductor making such a change, though possible. Hans von Billow and a few other conductors follow Beethoven's original marking as well.
they tell us we need those millions. And yes, berto, it's crazy. I'm wasting my time trying to find the origional poster of this movement and big oggle has edged them out! They will brand that as crazy; just wait and see. I say, greedy. Censorship is Big Money now.
Somebody wrote the words to the Kyrie Eleison for the RC Mass to the first part of this movement. Our choir at the Basilica sings it and all I can say is "awwwwwwwesome " Great choir and fabulous organ.
This has to be the most meticulously interpreted performance of this key movement I've heard at this tempo (or any tempo, really). The balance is perfect!
Rene Leibowitz and the Royal Phil. get the tempos exactly right for this movement, and their version is also stunningly well played and articulated. Carlos KJleiber was a genius, but I don't like his tempo for this elusive movement; many great conductors fall flat with it.
I agree that it is a bit too fast-- it is VERY, VERY beautifully played, but when looking at it with the rest of the symphony (how it's meant to be heard) the tempo is slightly fast for my liking. and his conducting is majestic, a true genius
you can just see the joy Kleiber gets from this music and the passion he has for it. His conducting is so clear, it's as if you could hear the music just by watching him.
It doesn't seem likely to me that Kleiber would have some information that no one else did. I'm sure there's an autograph score, and what's in it would be common knowledge.
As for the tempo, I was only talking about that one spot, in which he speeds up a little.
At Ryansax1983: I didn't want to respond to you, but I had to. Your words could not be more truthful. I deal with this frustration everyday. Garbage sells millions...while true greatness is put in the back burner. It pisses me off to see pop stars with very little musical talent considered GREAT!!! Ask most in today's society about who Carlos Kleiber is and they wouldn't have a clue. Something is wrong with this world!
Composition Year 1811-1812 alot has happened in 200 years. happy bithday
teckman2008 2 weeks ago
To listen to Beethoven is to hear the passions of humankind. In the space of a few bars one is transported from serenity thru great joy,excited passion into contemplation and then remorse and great sorrow. A truly inspiring journey made even moreso by his hearing loss which I suspect is part of the reason for the passion
ken38urb 3 weeks ago
Beethoven 9th symphony, great version...
youtube.com/watch?v=EmV35VPRT9s
obtica1 4 weeks ago
We all appreciate the music and the composer. That's the one thing about classical music, it breaches all barriers as it's pretty much universal.
Russpen745 1 month ago
Creo que el segundo movimiento es una proyección del dolor y carácter del gran maestro
classic01101238 1 month ago
Yeah, I actually wrote an essay on this topic (stupid GE class) but as I did my research on how Beethoven's music is used in popular media currently, I came to the conclusion that yes, it sucks. But this is what happens to all types of great art and knowledge. The past is the foundation for the present, and the present will be the foundation for the future. We might not agree with it, but these are just the vicissitudes of time.
asdfuogh 1 month ago in playlist Beethoven Symphony 7 2
Classical music has been reaching the masses via the pop culture route since it's been paired with film, stage performance, art, literature, or the imagination itself. So essentially all of modern man's existence. Simply because this movement was used in a movie and that has led to a resurgence in its popularity does not diminish its quality or importance!That kind of snobbery contributed to the image it has today!As classical players/enthusiasts, we should be rejoicing that people are listening
screwreagan 2 months ago 3
Every time i hear this great work I wonder why I left it so long since I last listened to it.
It never fails to satisfy.
ThePurpleHarpoon 2 months ago
ZardoZ !!!!!!!!!!!
s7473 2 months ago
Kleiber' s rendering of this movement is the best I've ever listened to.
And don't forget, the first recording was by DG, at the height of Karajan's domination. I don't think he was objecting.
veteranos1968 2 months ago
I Love Beethoven and I love this symphony, but I'm still puzzled as to how the second movement is loved so much as the favorite movement. I mean it's a great movement, and as far as funeral marches go it's great. But if I had to pick my top five Beethoven movements from his symphonies this probably would not make my top 5.
jscott1000 3 months ago
@jscott1000 Can you possibly be serious? What would your top five be?
polymath7 1 month ago
@jscott1000 The beginning of the this movement, with the low strings, is brooding, haunting, dramatic and in a way, frightening. It starts out soft and slowly builds to a powerful, forceful creature. I can easily see how the movement is loved or, at least, the beginning of it is loved more so than the whole movement perhaps.
Lerghin 1 month ago
ah, time for mvt 3... *looks to side bar, sees karajan* nope not that...ah here it is, KLEIBER!!
1GunKnight 3 months ago
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1GunKnight 3 months ago in playlist Beethoven Symphony 7
Who cares what movie someone heard such and such piece on. Discuss the composer, the conductor, or the orchestra, or gtfo. I see this all over youtube. Any piece even remotely well known goes viral briefly because of an inane pop-culture reference. No thanks.
BimLanders 3 months ago
@BimLanders Whoa buddy don't get all butt hurt because people want to talk about what movie they heard it from. Let people talk about what they want to talk about.
NINisTHEbestSOshutup 1 month ago
Carlos Kleiber - the man about whom was said that he was only conducting when his fridge reached a certain level of emptiness... according to Karajan...
I like his conducting very much.
Nihilomnist 3 months ago 5
@Nihilomnist Personally I think that Kleiber is better than Karajan. Kleiber puts so much emotion in his conducting.
beznicacow 2 months ago
4:09 -> 4:44 I like the pizzicato of cellos and contrabasses repeating the main theme
stekal79 3 months ago
@stekal79 me2
kevinqa 3 weeks ago
Parts of this song was in a movie called knowing with Nicolas cage it certainly fits the feeling set in that movie I must say
rozenczveig 4 months ago
指揮者がスゴい！
centuaripo 4 months ago
Carlos was an excellent conductor, I like his posture and how he illustrate the feeling of the music flowing through his body.
seanjohn449 4 months ago
nagyszerű mű!
bius09 4 months ago
too fast in the beginning!!!!!!
LeChevalierDuFeu 4 months ago
Interesting... how Kleiber conducted this so fast......
out of like 100 Recordings... 99 of them are UBER-SLOW.
Does anyone know why he did this?
vincntius 4 months ago
@vincntius 'cause it sounds better...?
bbnjmnglrx 4 months ago
@vincntius
The movements are
-Poco sostenuto – Vivace
-Allegretto
-Presto
-Allegro con brio
so why would allegretto mean 'slow'?
It's more a light allegro, and only slow in relation to all other (vivid in character and tempo) movements, except for the intro naturally.
Moreover, Kleibers tempo feels natural for me...
bbnjmnglrx 4 months ago
This movement makews me think of loss, love, longing for what appears unreachable; tripping and falling and getting up and go where you are meant to be... god it sounds pretentious, but seriously that's what I feel.
glenfagelfors 5 months ago 7
@MsJoS93... and so was Beethoven when he'd composed this... oh the irony...
glenfagelfors 5 months ago
i' me pretty sure this piece was used in films before the King's Speech
Can someone find the list?
GhibliOriginals 5 months ago
@GhibliOriginals knowing and also The fall
kevinqa 3 weeks ago
@GhibliOriginals i remember it on the original Phantom of the Opera from the early 20th century. i actually heard it again on Knowing, which is how i found out the name. to the pretentious jerks who think movies aren't worth discussing in relation to music, these songs would unfortunately never be heard by much of the populace w/o movies. there is nothing wrong with discussing it. because of these movies, i now know the name of this wonderful score and can look up the sheet music.
bludragonfly180 2 weeks ago
How can anyone not like this???
cvb777 5 months ago
i played this for my concert
Twizzyize 5 months ago
Certified Intergalactic!
Dogaradodia 5 months ago
Fuck
Wqa321q 5 months ago
28 people are deaf.
MsJoS93 5 months ago in playlist Beethoven Symphony 7 2
I watched King's Speech three times just for this piece! It fits so perfectly with the movie!
ireneismad 5 months ago
The Fall 2006!
imagencamacho 5 months ago
One of if not the very best conducted Beethoven 7TH. TY x for posting.
paulostroff99 6 months ago
Mit Kleiber fliegt man!
Gioachino82 6 months ago
זה הפרק הסימפוני הגאוני ביותר שחובר אי פעם ע"י מלחין כלשהו. חבל שאני לא מוצא את הביצוע של הסימפוניה הזו של התזמורת הסימפונית של קולומביה בניצוחו של ברונו וולטר האגדי. וולטר מצליח לחדור לנשמתו של בטהובן ומוביל את התזמורת לשיא היופי והשלמות של נגינה וירטואוזית ומרגשת.
ohanameiro 6 months ago in playlist Totally Classical
27 people don't know nothing about the music.
chilly1071 6 months ago
Very Mozart-esque. Reminds me of Mozart's Requiem.
garcia356 6 months ago
I revel in the genius of the western mind.
robertramish 7 months ago 2
es genial
musfams 7 months ago
Kleiber, Concertgebouw, Vienna Phil, Beethoven... (note the order is not from the best to the lowest but totally random) Can you ask for more?
psvvac2 8 months ago
At this point, I just turned volume up!
Beethoven Rocks!
Yeah!
rottencranberry 8 months ago
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Oh god! This music delivers me at your feet. Nothing is more beautiful than music, when Beethoven is the composer.
CTFlink 8 months ago in playlist Beethoven Symphony 7
Oh god! This music delivers me at your feet. Nothing is more beautiful than music, when Beethoven is the componist.
CTFlink 8 months ago in playlist Beethoven Symphony 7
I just need 3 things to do something as wonderfull like this:
1. A genius.
2. Deaf.
and most important
3. GM L. V. Beethoven.
Easy, isn't it?
rottencranberry 8 months ago
speechless.
nakedgunmusic 8 months ago
this song was in the movie knowing!!:D
jimtheguru1 8 months ago 2
Hmm, pizzicato instead of arco in the strings for the last couple of measures...does anyone know what the original marking is? Both Karajan and Furtwangler have it played arco.
gaddaviolin 8 months ago
@gaddaviolin I believe the original score indicates pizzicato, but don't quote me on it.
picoides1 8 months ago
@picoides1 My score says arco.
sstuddert 8 months ago
Carlos Kleiber seems to be nicest guy conductor when you look at him.
andrewbautista23 9 months ago
ta wenooo
pirujajastin 9 months ago
A great conductor ... he brought Beethoven's music alive like no one else ...
radstainforth 9 months ago
@radstainforth
pirujajastin 9 months ago
Bethoveen es un geniooo !
willstev80 9 months ago
This is without doubt the finest rendition of the second movement that I have ever heard! Thanks for sharing it!
luckypianocat1 9 months ago
a genius conductor, I miss him! Thank you for posting.
xliao2005 9 months ago 2
@tacticalstation I don't want to be pretentious, I just find it sad that now the classical music works are just known as soundtracks of movies or advertisings... but you are right, better be appreciated in that way than nothing... I'm just a pianist worried to see how classical music is underrated...
duopianissimo 9 months ago 16
@duopianissimo
You are not being pretentious at all, you are right, this wonderful music is underrated, it is sad, but there it is.
Enjoy it, Beethoven was a great gift to mankind and thankfully we have a man like Kleiber and these musicians to bring it to us in all its stark beauty.
Beautiful clip, thanks for posting it.
stpd1957 2 months ago
@duopianissimo "I'm just a pianist worried to see how classical music is underrated..."
Me too... it is sad to see this masterpieces being unknown by even well educated people
Fernando31611 1 month ago
@duopianissimo Never, never
never
confuse genuine high aesthetic standards with mere pretentiousness.
It is not for those of us who value Beethoven over whomever the fuck is on the top 40 charts at the moment to demonstrate that we are not pretentious; any onus is squarely on the philistines to show that they are not such pitiful philistines.
The "I'm sorry, but" should ALWAYS be uttered by them; whatever apology, tact, blush or concession that may be owed is ALWAYS theirs.
polymath7 1 month ago
this piece is also well known for being in the movie Mr. Hollands Opus as he is talking about Beethoven and his deafness. Very powerful!
gazza954 10 months ago
wonderful...
hisarkutan 10 months ago
24 people dont have ears for music
sofiawing 10 months ago
when was this performed? just judging by the glasses worn by some of the orchestra members, i'm guessing late 80s/early 90s?
geikogecko 10 months ago
@geikogecko 1983, if memory serves. There's an updated performance with a different conductor floating around, I think from 2009.
olnoname 9 months ago
Thumbs up if you didnt recognize it from any movie and just wanted to listen that symphony... Great interpretation
duopianissimo 10 months ago
@duopianissimo I haven't even seen the movie. But, yeah, apparently this masterpiece was recognized therein.
LittleBabyWheeler 10 months ago
@duopianissimo No need to be pretentious, it makes no difference where the audience hears it from, as long as his music is still appreciated by many.
tacticalstation 10 months ago
This is a little faster than most other versions but in accordance with the composer's marking of Allegretto, this is probably the true tempo.
winrx 10 months ago
Karajan did it better.
sdfgdsgfsdfg 10 months ago
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thumbs up if you recognised this from "The Fall"
Arcoxiaify 10 months ago
I heard this in Zardoz and fell in love with it.
minespatch 10 months ago
Recognised it from Knowing!! Don't you feel something strange with this?
2dollarkevin 10 months ago
@2dollarkevin Like harmony out of chaos or imending doom?
MidknightKC 10 months ago
@2dollarkevin impending*
MidknightKC 10 months ago
@MidknightKC ahmm what means impending?? :) sorry, I'm mexican and I don't know the meaning of some words, I don't even know if I'm writting well ...
2dollarkevin 9 months ago
@2dollarkevin "Impending" means something is about to happen. Has not happened yet but will very soon. And you are writing in English far better than I do in Spanish. Nice.
alibabarhum 9 months ago
@alibabarhum Gracias : )
2dollarkevin 9 months ago
@2dollarkevin Escribes en ingles muy bien!
spackhollogay 9 months ago
24 dislikes? wtf?
chibetorr 10 months ago
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Thumbs up if you recognised this first from The Fall and then The King's Speech . . .
ididwy 10 months ago
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Pfooey to the king's speech. Thumbs up if you recognize this because you give a fuck about good music!
kloii 11 months ago
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PPfooey to the king's speech. Thumbs up if you recognize this because you give a fuck about good music!
kloii 11 months ago 71
@kloii damn fucking straight!
spaniarddamnit 10 months ago
@kloii dislike your terminology, but otherwise agreed 100% !!
ShawDAMAN 10 months ago
@kloii
thumbs down as you have to use an expletive to tell us that!
pitbull2005 10 months ago
@pitbull2005 sorry , no thumbs up haha! What the hell is an expletive..
2dollarkevin 9 months ago
@kloii Agreed, a truly amazing piece of music, thrillingly performed. Nonetheless, the fact that it has been used for two of the greatest movies of the past year only underlines its brilliance. And besides, the more people learn to appreciate this great music, the better.
boxtelton 6 months ago in playlist Große Dirigenten-große Interpretationen
Holy Shit!!! hahaha I started to listen only today to this movement, and I kept wondering... Where did I hear this... where did I last hear this. Hahaha, at last I remembered it was from the King's Speech. When I first heard it in the movie I instantly loved it. Today, that I forgot where I last heard it, I thought to my self that I loved the movement because it reminded me of how great people dealt with hardships... Wonder why they put it on The King's Speech...
madamewho 5 months ago
@madamewho They probably wanted to heighten the irony of a German giving an anti-German speech to the Brits. So they played some German music. ;)
dragmio 3 months ago
@kloii If people come to discover good music through a movie then that's fine with me. Not everybody came out of the womb whistling Beethoven like you did.
daGr8Satan 4 months ago 2
The King's Speech's doesn't seem to be this one, more likely Claudio Abbado's version (exists in Youtube)
Congamako 11 months ago 2
The king's speech
ccamilotorres 11 months ago
@Laindal when I heard it in The King's Speech I knew it reminded me of some other movie, and it was kind of slow-mo and morbid, but I didn't remember which... Problem solved. :) Haha
PianoP3nguin 11 months ago
@PianoP3nguin ;D
Laindal 10 months ago
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edimus123 11 months ago 10
@edimus123 And thumbs up also if you recognised it before from Knowing
Laindal 11 months ago 6
@edimus123 I guess one should be thankful that some pieces get used over and over again in movies and encourage people to listen to classical music.....
GaolisVideoLog 10 months ago
@GaolisVideoLog Indeed... I've been geting my kicks with several ost's around there. My own concern is that just a few pieces here and there that really, really grab me so I would wish there'd be an extreme compilation of the best works from the best you know? Maybe there are and I don't know... Oh... In the case of this piece it was Irreversible that caught me. Amazing movie, powerful yet very brutal... Cheers!
Lgg130 10 months ago
what year and which orchestra?
amm1t5 11 months ago
@amm1t5 Royal Concertgebouw, I believe.
LordHettrick 11 months ago
I want this for an alarm clock, no matter how early it is or how tired I am, I'd be in a good mood by waking up to this
ElMa1788 11 months ago 4
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it makes perfect sense.
ShadowKoolAid 11 months ago
we played this last year in our orchestra. there's no words to describe it when you're sitting right in the violins and listen to the harmonic movements in the strings - more than orgasmic...
Beethoven is my superhero :)
violinbubi 11 months ago 2
GENIUS!!!
Oh, Lord... Pick Giovanni Allevi, and give us back Carlos Kleiber!!!!
dsalvini 11 months ago
My favorite movement by far
PickledHarrrington 11 months ago
this is art, this is music, this is god's paradise, this is everything!!...
mauriciomille 11 months ago 2
Ahhh...!
jafigueroa41 1 year ago 2
'tis a beautiful thing.
j.
djrbfm 1 year ago
I love how they all start coughing when its done.
dada236 1 year ago
Eigentlich hat Maestro Arrau gesagt >>Carlos Kleiber ist der bedeutendste Dirigent des 20. Jahrhunderts<<.
robertrstevens 1 year ago
Maestro Claudio Arrau hat es schon gesagt: >>Der größeste Dirigent des 20. Jahrhunderts ist Carlos Kleiber.<< Ich bin ganz einverstanden damit.
robertrstevens 1 year ago
You guys act like Kleiber composed this. Don't forget the real master...
TheGameTagers 1 year ago 58
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baltazarcoco99 10 months ago
@TheGameTagers Try to copy the partiture to Finale, or Sibelius and play with that programs, and after repeat your sentence! Or just compare the like/dislike rate of other B7m2 performances...
bence778 7 months ago
@bence778 I'm not downing Kleiber, I think he's a great conductor. At the time of that post (five months ago) most of the comments were all about Kleiber. Most people just didn't seem to give Beethoven himself enough credit.
TheGameTagers 7 months ago
@TheGameTagers I see. But I'ld say again, as there are performances on youtube, we can speak about performer, and composer. Me, I don't really like Beethoven, but adore Kleiber, so guess I'ld have spoken about Kleiber, and would not have mentioned Beethoven. But anyway, it's just me, and seems that many people thinks in a different way, coz yours is the second favourite comment;)
bence778 7 months ago
The genius that was Carlos Kleiber. This is so amazing, so haunting, that it makes you weep.
The conducting style of CK is not only a joy to watch but it also helps you to get into the music even more. A master painter of music at work. I so wish that I could have seen him live.
youtubister 1 year ago
although I don't like the pizz at the end
2natw 1 year ago
Oh, the tempo is perfect! People usually take this too darn slow >:(
2natw 1 year ago
22 person who don't know what is classical music…
777wallaby777 1 year ago
"Exciting!!" ...So exciting that the audience has to show their approval by coughing at the end of this incredible movement, something that just begs for sudden applause. I love classical music, but I hate some parts of the culture that comes with it.
ArtD42 1 year ago
R.I.P. Carlos Kleiber, you gave the world more than any other musician
MartinQoo918 1 year ago 6
haunting
MDbam 1 year ago
haunting
*just wondering, is it just me, or is it a little sharp. just tried playing along with the violins, and i was always flat with tuning.
MDbam 1 year ago
haunting
MDbam 1 year ago
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MartinQoo918 1 year ago
This pieces is god like
Played in true Allegretto fashion =P
Ayala84 1 year ago
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Ayala84 1 year ago
is shit.....
kaushik9able 1 year ago
Happy Birthday Mr. Beethoven.
littlealanbig 1 year ago
Mankind has wrought much evil upon the Earth, but this... this is our other side.
GordonMorrice 1 year ago 4
Totally amazing! Makes my heart happy!
rjcfireball 1 year ago
watch Kleiber rehearsing the Weber Der Freischütz Overture on youtube to fathom his artistic energy and genius. He was a gift to all of us. RIP.
cwcascales 1 year ago
ZARDOZ enough said
tccompaq 1 year ago 6
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Wow--a big alteration at the end there, keeping the first violins pizzicato for the last notes!! I wonder why?
primasqualdrina 1 year ago
Wow--a big alteration at the end there, keeping the first violins pizzicato for the last notes!! I wonder why?
primasqualdrina 1 year ago
@primasqualdrina It's a long story... Beethoven originally marked the ending pizzicato. During a rehearsal, Beethoven complained to the conductor that he couldn't hear the strings when the winds enter. The conductor marked "arco" in the manuscript (the mark still exists in the manuscript). It is unlikely that Beethoven would have been too keen on a conductor making such a change, though possible. Hans von Billow and a few other conductors follow Beethoven's original marking as well.
missourichamberorch 1 year ago
jesemus33: A conductor has nothing better to do than to act crazy
rockytopva 1 year ago
they tell us we need those millions. And yes, berto, it's crazy. I'm wasting my time trying to find the origional poster of this movement and big oggle has edged them out! They will brand that as crazy; just wait and see. I say, greedy. Censorship is Big Money now.
BlandieWall 1 year ago
Great perfomance! i loved it, RIP Carlos Kleiber
Chris4215B 1 year ago
Somebody wrote the words to the Kyrie Eleison for the RC Mass to the first part of this movement. Our choir at the Basilica sings it and all I can say is "awwwwwwwesome " Great choir and fabulous organ.
2tobytwo 1 year ago
nerdgasm
smileysharpie 1 year ago
This has to be the most meticulously interpreted performance of this key movement I've heard at this tempo (or any tempo, really). The balance is perfect!
MaxxUS08 1 year ago
puts tears in my eyes, this music shakes me so deeply thats what the most songs from now cant do with me!!!!
cptschaaf 1 year ago 4
Perfect!!!!! Love so much!
chriskulza 1 year ago
Rene Leibowitz and the Royal Phil. get the tempos exactly right for this movement, and their version is also stunningly well played and articulated. Carlos KJleiber was a genius, but I don't like his tempo for this elusive movement; many great conductors fall flat with it.
billyguns2 1 year ago
I agree that it is a bit too fast-- it is VERY, VERY beautifully played, but when looking at it with the rest of the symphony (how it's meant to be heard) the tempo is slightly fast for my liking. and his conducting is majestic, a true genius
zolaman218 1 year ago
A little bit too fast... but well conducted!
simpsonspianoman 1 year ago
Genius x 3
Composer, Conductor, Performers.
All 3.
thomasg321 1 year ago
Zardoz soundtrack
sisiello 1 year ago
quel phrasé, quelle profondeur sans ostentation, la meilleure version que j'aie pu entendre de cette oeuvre.
BRISEFER6 1 year ago
you can just see the joy Kleiber gets from this music and the passion he has for it. His conducting is so clear, it's as if you could hear the music just by watching him.
flootloops 1 year ago
Kleiber is amazing!!! Such a minimalistic approach, yet guiding the orchestra properly!
oreste86 1 year ago
@Ryansax1983: I agree.
liz1379 1 year ago
Sublim
pmontane 1 year ago
@berto41 Exactly. A great deal of pleasure is missed if you only LISTEN to kleiber. You have to watch him. It's beyond words.
michelhere 1 year ago
It doesn't seem likely to me that Kleiber would have some information that no one else did. I'm sure there's an autograph score, and what's in it would be common knowledge.
As for the tempo, I was only talking about that one spot, in which he speeds up a little.
risrosen 1 year ago
ever since watching "the knowing", this music scares the shit out of me now! :(
arman1712 1 year ago
2:48 clarinete y fagot
josentis 1 year ago
multiple braingasms, every time.
ruthlessandevil 1 year ago
@ruthlessandevil hmm so now i know you have a secret love for classical.
McillemsRemixes 1 year ago
@McillemsRemixes you know it! this is the good stuff lol
ruthlessandevil 1 year ago
@ruthlessandevil yes man this just needs a heavy beat and a tempo switch, would be in every club in the UK
McillemsRemixes 1 year ago
@McillemsRemixes NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol
ruthlessandevil 1 year ago
@ruthlessandevil like this lmao w.youtube.com/watch?v=GFYNH0b4uJk
McillemsRemixes 1 year ago
Carlos Kleiber - Straus
Herberth Von karajan - Beethoven
alfredocx 1 year ago
@alfredocx i agree, Karajan was born to interpretate Beethoven
CutlerBeckett90 1 year ago
At Ryansax1983: I didn't want to respond to you, but I had to. Your words could not be more truthful. I deal with this frustration everyday. Garbage sells millions...while true greatness is put in the back burner. It pisses me off to see pop stars with very little musical talent considered GREAT!!! Ask most in today's society about who Carlos Kleiber is and they wouldn't have a clue. Something is wrong with this world!
Naltino 1 year ago