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  • please wash your mouth dont judge. the one who judge is our LORD so you are not the LORD. and if this have to be funny wel its not. you have no respect what so ever of the humans awefull

  • By deffinition your not Amish if you use the Internet.

  • More religious fakers. I partied hard with some Amish dudes in New York city. Crazy guys. Sex drugs and rock-n-roll. Some of them went back to the farm, but most stayed in N.Y. At the current rate of amish adoption of modern things in fifty years they will be just like us are now. They will look at now as the good old days. The problem is that the rest of us will have progressed.

  • hey, if they can have "amish country" can i have "^70-2004's" Country? where walking down the street with a boombox listing to disco and not having to worry about fuel cost is coustm. and im preetty sure alot of people are with me on this

  • how does this have dislikes? Armish don't use internet!

  • I always suspected.

  • I'm Amish and I was offended by this video

  • @Herrjbk haha

  • @Herrjbk Too bad.

  • I live next to an Amish community....this guy is completely correct! They use generators, gas motors, chain saws, overhead cranes to put their log homes up, and more. They hire others to drive them around, grade their roads, dig their foundations. What they don't have or hire....they borrow from the neighbors. They are truly frauds and hypocrites.....well, at least the ones next to us are.

  • They're on the Internet, but they are restricted to dialup modems.

  • why not pick on the amish and quakers ,its not as if theyll have broadband and will know were talking the back right off them lol we love you amish quakers ,,for sugar puffs ta

  • Haha if your intellectually apt for these jokes they're hilarious :)

    Made my day!

  • Your an idiot, why don't you read up about something before commenting, Amish church elders have the ability to weigh what modern technology is beneficial totheir community on a whole.

  • 125 People are Amish frauds! Get yo ass of the Internets!

  • People have you ever heard of SARCASM?? He is JOKING!!

  • Everybody relax, he is just joking. 

  • The Amish use gas to power their dairy barns and to operate other machines that are allowed..shows cenk uygur's half-ass interest in the amish.

  • @bassbasketball03 thats cause no one cares about the amish except for the amish. deal with it.

  • @rebelcsb1

    i do

  • You jerks like picking on the Amish, that's really courageous of you. Shame on you The Dung Jerks

  • this is so incorrect information -it all depends on the individual order of the Amish

  • Good point!

  • there are different amish clans some use just poor animal slaves others use tractors and such they still all suck though

  • dumb sandnigger

  • @johnernst4 your comment makes your ignorance of @theyoungturks , race and geography pretty obvious. Turkey is a semiarid country, made up of coasts, mountains, grasslands, etc--not much desert to speak of to justify the "sand" part of your comment. As far at the latter portion, if you don't like someone, argue against their statements--as I am doing w/you now--assaulting someones race, heritage, looks, etc lacks substance.

  • haha no amish people can yell at us through the comments =)

    AMISH SUCK AMISH SUCK AMISH SUCK

    jk, amish are chill. I like their hats =D

  • It's people like this this scum that have been allowed in this country that are causing the country to disintegrate.

  • What a smart ass! Thank God you are not like all Turkish people.

  • what the snaps Amish whats the difference between gas and electricity? if you are going to have a crazy belief believe in it at least. what do you think the gas dose? it makes electricity ya hypocrites.

  • Ummm he is very right. There are plenty of Amish that do this. The Indiana Amish do this all the time. They really are hypocritical. This guy isnt very good at explaining it..he sounds too Glenn Beck...but he isnt making that up

  • Hey YoungTurk....GET A CLUE DIPSHIT.....Your "show" is a FRAUD because it is so STUPID.

  • Not nice at all...the Amish feel the impact of gas prices because #1 many count on tourists to buy their goods and whatnot. And if no one is driving....it's bad for tourism. #2 they use propane gas for their stoves, refrigerators, washers, and dryers and that gas cost goes up when regular gas goes up. They do not use electric so they use gas powered appliances. Please educate yourself before calling someone a fraud. They are good honest hard working people not frauds.

  • "washers and driers" = "daughters and lawyers" , needs some work around the edges...

  • Yikes man. You sound soooo ignorant.

  • This is a critique of a group and a culture by a person who probably has never studied them or understands the basis for some if not all of their rules. To all who may have interest in the Amish and others who are members of the Anabaptist religion to look for works by the following: Donald B. Kraybill, Steve Nolt, John Hostetler, Theron Slaubaugh, and check if there is a website for the Young Center for Pietist Studies. A visit to Menno Hof in Shipshewana, Indiana would also be recommended.

  • "Doesn't use machines"??? Even a simple lever is a machine, genius. Perhaps TYT guy means "engines" or "motors".

  • How would you feel if you had to do that?

  • lol amish people

  • dumb fat idiot

  • Weirdo. You need to do more research before you embarrass yourself.

  • It's Amish2011

  • You are fucking retarded. 

  • @tcw00 Says the guy whose most thoughtful post is "Hey I like that! Put it in my mouth!"

  • So, they aren't like you thought they would be. Does that make them frauds?

    The reason the Amish live the way they do, is for the purpose of keeping themselves separate from the rest of the world, so they can maintain their religious influence over their families. Each Amish church makes their own rules. There are some Amish that ride in buggies, but have indoor plumbing and electricity. Others do not allow these things. Some allow phones, others do not.

    You judge those you dont know.

  • Again, TYTs making ignorance. My father was associate director of the Ag experiment station in Auburn, University and had a farm trying to make it self sufficient. He found out it's impossible. You HAVE to have cash flow. He even published scientific literature on the degree to which a farm can be self sufficient. So, the Amish are actually not frauds, just intelligent farmers. Not corporate farmers exactly, as they don't do it for a profit. But as independent as possible. TYT is so stupid, LOL.

  • You speak so ignorantly about something and people you don't know. You are truly arrogant.

  • You have alot of class there young man.. Mostly 3rd class, but you have alot of it! You have no right picking on people. You don't see anyone suggesting you trade in your car for a horse drawn buggy. Mabye if you did, you wouldnt be able to get to McDonalds as easy and you might not have the weight issues you have. Just saying. And the ones that do use electricity, use generators & propane, not power lines. and they use it in their workshops, not the home. They will survive a depression, u wont

  • All religious are FRAUDS!

  • idiot

  • This is wrong.. Cenk, leave the Amish alone.

  • Idiot.

  • cenk you are being a hateful bigoted little prick in this segment, and you should remove it from youtube, amish people hold a lot of values important, that other americans should also. They came from a religious group of people who thought children shouldnt be baptized until they are concious of the decision, and the technology they use is questioned with "will this piece of technology hurt the family relationships"

    stop being a fucking close-minded prick cenk, do a little research first

  • Oh yes it does...especially since they dont derived 1/10 of the benefits that most people do...they dont use our schools , get food stamps, collect unemployment, collect welfare or utilize section 8...just to name a few..they dont make any withdrawl..so therefore there is no deposit required..get it

  • @ctjennyg je suis d'accord avec vous les Amish sont autonomes ils n'attendent pas sur les revenus sociaux , ils ont énormément de valeurs , particulièrement celles du travail.Ces personnes vivent dans une communauté et ne demandent rien à personne alors qu'on les laisse tranquilles . S'ils vivent comme au 17 ème siecle ça les regarde et ce sont des personnes qui polluent le moins la planète .

  • go suck your dogs dick!! Damn rag head

  • i know right because i went to six flags theres amish with their digit cameras, video camaras, i-pod, cells pone. i wnet to an amish store and theres machine EVERYWHERE. i spoke out loud "this people are not amish, its an amish THEMED market. theyre just dressing up like amish for the them." if you're going to called yourself amish then i'd expect you living in a barn with no heat, running water and cattle. not in a regular house with electronics. amish should really stop called themselves amish

  • @NOVAGIRL666 you are going off stereotypes given to you by the media, because you are brain washed. The amish use technology no problem, but do not use some of the things you listed. when an amish family is about to buy a piece of technology, they ask the question, is this item capable of breaking up their relationships with their family members. Washer and dryer, or power tool will not break up the family home environment, so its okay to use, this is the reason they DO NOT have TV or games

  • Modern Amish xD

  • Amish need to pay taxes.

  • @carnypimp The Amish DO pay taxes...they're not exempt. What they don't do is collect social security, unemployment, or welfare benefits.

  • @SOHCAHTOA100 They only pay house tax that does not count.

  • this guy doesn't know what he is talking about. What a pussy to pick on the Amish when he doesn't know shit about it other than a story that he heard.

  • Hate speech !!!! You should be shut down for spreading disinfo !! You are the Fraud sir

  • Hey even if they use no electicity or gas they need keroseen for lights.

  • I am one of the few amish people who have a youtube account which i manage from a computer at the local library. yes, we have washing machines but as far as I know there are no amish communities that allow driers. Oh and the gas is for machines like tillers, lawnmowers, and such. A few of the more liberal amish communities even allow tractors and/or skid loaders

  • @Wagler88 haha ok, I dont want this to be offensive or awkward or anything but that just made me rly excited that you are amish. :)

  • @squeegybeckinhyme Don't worry I'm not offended (-8

  • hey JACK ASS you need to do your home work before you diss the amish they dont use any gas machinery. the mininights are often confused with the amish and the mininights use tool that require gas and they also can have a job just like you in fact one could be sitting next to you at work. you are a idiot know what you are talking about before you make a ass of your self on youtube

  • SHUT YOUR FUCKING DUMB ASS MOUTH ASS HOLE.

  • you're so dumb. you can talk about the amish when I see your ass out in the fields everyday. You wouldn't make it. The amish use propane to run their machines like washer and dryers and refrigerators. leave them alone! you could learn a thing or two from the amish

  • WOW! Your first step into realization that the world is not as it truly seems. CONGRATULATIONS! Now maybe TYT can make more intelligent commentaries. Naaaaaaa, I love a good chuckle watching these.

  • Our amish around here don't look like the ones in the movies,, they look like hillbillies and smell but they dont bother anyone.

  • Dude, targeting the Amish? sigh... so sad.

  • amish country is pretty much 1950's america now

  • @feh2

    That explains creationists.

  • call me a troll but this guy is fake and gay

  • amish in ireland are really strange compared to the other amish :L

    i saw a amish women with a camera phone filming a show in the centre of town

    saw an amish women with a puncture,

    amish men dont wear hats

    women dress like all amish (sometimes i laugh)

  • @bigsmile1994 we have amish? where?

  • @JohnSnowstorm theres a big community of em just past the suburbs of waterford city...

    every saturday they sell there stuff in waterford

  • Maybe it's Hollywood's portrayal of the Amish that is the fraud, not the Amish themselves.

    Get a life TYT.

  • The guy was being a fool in this video. He is not educated about the Amish. God will take care of them, and him.

  • i buy most of my food is from the Amish they are the most wonderful people along with Mennonites and im not sure who you think you are to judge anyone but you will have to anwser to the good lord above for that im sure and by looking at you you wouldnt last 1 hr in either ones shoes

  • i think you really should look into stuff alittle better before judging peolpe on who they are and how they live for one you cannot tell the amish aside of Mennonites yes the Mennonites beleave in cars nothing fancy the ones i see around most drive (black mini vans) yes they use electricity and have phones where the AMISH DO NOT i think you may want to look into the book deeper rather then going by the cover they are both great people in fact about the onley place i buy most of my food is from

  • If the Amish are frauds, what do we call Al Gore with his carbon credits scheme? The Amish are more ecologically friendly than Gore could ever dream of being. Al Gore has proven by his actions that he is one of the biggest hypocrites alive today. Thumbs down to the young turds!! This show is a perfect example of why left wing broadcasting, like air america, never succeeds. People are smarter than you give them credit for. Most people see right through your left wing rhetoric.

  • @cheepis that's insanely ironic. People see through the LEFT WING's rhetoric? Wow... have you ever heard of Fox fucking news? And conservative radio?

  • After watching this and other TYT videos, it seems that you should be called the young turds. More arrogant crap from the left. It amazes me that you believe the verbal vomit that you spew.

  • this guy is fucking annoying...

  • i know its fucked up man all of em have cell phones n shit now

  • I hate how they compare us(Jews) to amish people. >:I

  • This is unfair, how will the Amish defend this, they can't post comments on this video, :-(

  • TYT your a douche 

  • If you had made a real research you would have noticed that there are diffrent kinds of amish, more or less technical.

  • The young Turds. What an idiot.

  • @ftlbrt he was being sarcastic u noob

  • you are the most insulting, ignorant people I've had the displeasure of watching youtube how would you like it if I made fun of your religion or way of life being Amish takes great courage and faith to be these days

  • @mrpsyco100 Yes Cenk might come off as insulting but.....he has a point -_-

  • Well I can give a rats ass about the Amish. They claim to be soooo spritual and close to God, but yet when they see a black person (such as myself), they panic, and look at me strange, like I'm going to hurt them or something...WTF. Fuck off Amish!

  • @atlviolin04 So what do you do, say hello or flip 'em the bird? You think they are the only one's staring? Oh my poor black baby, here, have a freakin' hanky.....

  • @atlviolin04 Well well well if that's not the pot talking! I am sure they are used to others looking at them strange too, no doubt they get abuse thrown their way also. Only I don't hear them complaining, or being prejudiced. Grow up and don't be so hypocritical!

  • apparently he hasnt heard of new age amish...there are many ways to power machines without electricity and fuel.

  • they do make most of that stuff... so why not use it?

  • I'm disapointed in you fucko, the amish live a far more eco friendly life than you ever will. You're not funny.

  • ignorant oaf

  • Hey Turk shut the fuck up YOU are killing your minority Kurds every day as we speak , TURKS fuck OFF ...

  • The Young Turd read a story in the paper. He doesn't know any Amish. They are hard working, decent people unlike most of the Turds I know.

  • this is rediculous! The Amish are kind, peaceful, and hold to their values. The fact that the young turks 1) are ignorant enough to let this be a surprise, and 2) would publically insult or make fun of these wonderful people for such a rediculous reason is shameful, and proves what i have thought for quite some time; the Young Turks are in fact the frauds. Stop masquerading as news commentors and admit to be the rediculous closed-minded bigots you are.

  • Only people that assume would act like this say "oh the amish do all this stuff like have electric, tv,s and ac" No those are mennonites people "assume" are amish,and just like bcberryfarm says, there are several different orders of amish, some have cell phones where other orders do not allow battery powered lights on their buggies only lanterns. So if you dont know anything about their culture then don't talk about is though you do because you're making yourself look like an ass

  • young turks :P and i thought islam is a religion of peace. go figure.

  • THE AMISH GUY THAT LIVES NEXT DOOR TO ME HAS A $5,000 BASS BOAT REFRIDGERATORS WASHING MACHINE SOLAR PANELS ON HIS DOG HOUSE AND AIR CONDITIONING

  • Ugh, he comes as so arrogantly ignorant.

  • Is this supposed to be funny? Because it only made you look ignorant and mean. Who are you to say what the Amish can and can't do? You obviously don't know much about the Amish or other anabaptist groups living in America. There are many different sects and orders of Amish, often confused with mennonites and old order brethren. They all differ in thier practices of living apart, however NONE of them deserve your ridicule. your "show" is in poor taste.

  • @bcberryfarm You said it so I don't have to.

  • @bcberryfarm Wow, you're seriously butthurt.

  • @bcberryfarm Hey, I found this video by some kid about "yo mama" jokes, would you mind hopping over to it and leaving a good comment explaining how ignorant and mean the kid is being and how important mothers are in society?

    I'm glad you're speaking up. It's about time we put an end to all this good spirited kidding around. The world would be lost in a sea of smiles and blushes if people like you didn't take themselves so goddamn seriously. I know if I had a sense of humor I'd be way too happy.

  • @FlandreScarletTepes I wouldn't consider calling an entire group of people "frauds" to be "good spirited kidding around." Especially since the amish are renowned for using all sorts or interesting machinery. I really enjoy humor, but this wasn't funny it was mean.

  • @bcberryfarm QQ faggot

  • @bcberryfarm That's true, but the Amish that shun there kids for not living the ways of the church after saying they would, is wrong no matter who they are. Religious people are so fucked up. I think its a neurological disorder.

  • @bcberryfarm oh get off your high horse pal

    the Amish cant watch this.

  • @pr0pr0 this guy is a jack ass he knows nothing about the amish

  • @danaval1 lol it's the internet, there's plenty of jackasses, who cares?

  • Of all humankind, the Amish are probably the least responsible for the crap going on in the world today. How can anybody hate the Amish? The world would be a far better place with more of them. Wish we had Amish communities in England, this place is falling apart. I get the feeling that they could teach us more than we could, them.

  • @garyography ....right

  • @garyography I guess you forgot that England also went through the same age? It didn't work out so well. We're better off now.

  • @trecool9992 Yes I understand that times were not so good in the 16/1700's especially since Britain was a barbaric place back then. Still in this modern day Amish communities throughout the UK would be welcomed with open arms though the land is far too expensive here. I understand there is a Beachy Amish community however in Southern Ireland. Rather wonderful!

  • @trecool9992 USA population around 300 million, UK 60 million, USA wealth $14.5 trillion, UK wealth $2.2 trillion take into account the difference in population not such a big difference. Also if you measure by GDP per capita USA is 6th and luxembourg is 1st. You say that like you're convinced yet there's millions in the USA living in poverty, you don't have free healthcare, your life expectancy is lower than ours and your infant morality rate is higher than ours.

  • @redeyejedi1987 I feel "better off" knowing i'm going to live a longer and healthier life and my children have a better chance of actually making it into the world.

  • @redeyejedi1987 Also just because a small minority have most of the wealth doesn't mean every single person in the USA lives the life of luxury

  • @redeyejedi1987 You're speaking out your ass.

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  • They're the most down-to-earth, good-hearted people you'll ever meet. You might think they'd be unhappy with this mischaracterization (if they somehow found it here on YouTube), but if my past experiences with them mean anything, they'd probably brush it off with a smile and offer to bake him an apple pie.

  • @garyography we do have irish travellers...i suppose that would be our equiv

  • @modelearth Actually yeah I heard you have a small Amish community in Waterford, so pleased to hear that.

  • @garyography Sometimes I think the Amish are the only ones that "get it" 90% of our lie worries, we choose to have, and it's our own fault. OMG I have to pay the light bill, OMG I have to make a car payment, the cable bill, when in reality, the only worry I should have, is a roof over my head, food in my kitchen, and health, nothing more, but I "choose" to worry about having more than I need!

  • @GhostofNewEngland I completely understand what you mean. For me the religion side does nothing for me at all, but the simple lifestyle cna be quite enviable at times.

  • @garyography The Amish religion varies. Some are so cultish that they forbid reading the Bible and encourage fornication and drugs. That kind is mostly in Indiana. But most of them encourage Bible reading, and their lifestyle is more a way of living out what they believe God wants them to do. They depend on the group far more than most Americans can understand. It would be almost impossible to live an 18th century lifestyle, without having a community to share resources and help each other.

  • @garyography @garyography Sometimes I think the Amish are the only ones that "get it" 90% of our life worries, we choose to have, and it's our own fault. OMG I have to pay the light bill, OMG I have to make a car payment, the cable bill, when in reality, the only worry I should have, is a roof over my head, food in my kitchen, and health, nothing more, but I "choose" to worry about having more than I need!

  • The amish use machines powered by gas and coal. They don't use modern conveniences if they perceive them to be a threat to their values of community and simplicity. You sit in your little studio berating people for not living up to your misconceptions? Cunt.

  • I've been spending most of my life living in an Amish paradise. I don't have a TV (just a computer), I don't drive, no cell phone either. I never use microwaves anymore. I eat a lot of my fruit off of trees. Yep, I like things simple and done the old way. You can keep the modern age, it reeks!

  • I realize that the Amish aren't completely Amish when I found out there are Amish dating websites.

  • you guys are retarted if you didnt know they used machines and electricity. they say they dont so they dont have to pay certain bills or taxes. RETARDS!!!!

  • Been spending most our lives living in an Amish Paradise

  • Randomly came across this video, and looking at the comments. It is clear to me, that not many know what the Amish ARE LOL. He isn't telling the Amish how to live, he is calling them hypocrites, because their tradition is suppose to involve no electricity.... Pretty much anything that is modern.

  • THIS guy gets to decide "the whole point" of being Amish? HE'S telling them what they "can't" do? Please. Just another whiny loudmouth, saying anything his ignorant mind can spit up, in a sad attempt to get his 15 minutes.

    Pathetic.

  • @ChrisSuperstar If your Amish you can't use machines, that's the whole point is them keeping their old tradition, are you Amish? you are just one of those people who hates him who criticizes him because he makes you feel bad about yourself. You're the one who is pathetic, because you criticize to get your litt few moments of fame.

  • I wonder where his loyalties are? Food for thought...what is the purpose of this video?

  • another ignorant american lieing to all the other americans

  • I hear they're having trouble with Amish horse and buggy accidents because many of the Amish are now texting while driving, lol.

  • Ignorant Bastard.

  • @misterb1965 are you offended because you're Amish?

  • @moleman295 Nope...not Amish, but had many Amish neighbors, and this guy has no idea what he's talking about. :-)

  • @misterb1965 this guy is a piece of crap, anyone that picks on others that can't defend themselves is worthless trash to me, like this turkish wanker.

  • What a bigot. Spreading ignorance. Nice job Cenk!

  • No way! I refuse to believe the Amish have washers & dryers. Please. Don't lie on them. Hater! LOL!!!

  • Amish do use gas to power certain things like mowers, household appliances and etc. They are not against using machines, they just will not depend on electricity because it connects them to the outside world--and their vows to be separate are how they have chosen to live.

  • @mom92 a washer and dryer use electricity dipshit

  • What a fool. You don't know who your messing with. You don't think they'll ever find out? Really? Oh, they'll find out all right. Maybe they already know about you. About your family. Where you live. Your habits, your routines. And when you least expect it, they will come for you (in special stealth buggies), take you away, never to be seen again.

  • Some of the 'new orders' have cars, electricity, etc. The old orders still do not. Maybe you should EDUCATE your stupid ass about the Amish before you slander them, you're just a dipshit TV talking head.

  • @sherkhan17 I'd like to see a washer and dryer that DOESNT run on electricity lollll

  • @mewimi they use wringer washers that use gasoline engines, then hang the clothes on the line to dry. :)

  • Leave the Amish alone. They live more for God then you ever will:

  • This guy is a douche.

  • @ijp66 No, worse, he's a secular, liberal Muslim of Turkish origin, it appears. The same people who committed a brutal genocide against Christian Armenians.

  • @KenGS333 He is not a muslim. If you watched TYT you would know that.

  • They do have different rules in each ordnung. What applies in one may not apply to another. You sound like such a douche bag in this video. Talk about something worthwhile instead of acting like an ass. Better yet, don't talk at all.

  • so what they're traditions is doesn't fit into what you have heard of?

    yah that makes people a fraud.

    *golfclap*

    reaching , lacking something funny to say.

    just do the jolly funny fat guy routine, i'm sure you'll get more laughs that way :/

  • I've been to the Amish community. Their belief is that using technology that requires things like electricity is a sin. Simple tools are the only tools you are allowed to use. They have one telephone for emergencies in the town, but thats it. If an Amish community is using machine it is a hypocritical Amish community. I.E. Frauds.

  • you say "the amish" as if there is only one version of them, they vary.

    perhaps you went to a very conservative amish community, but others do in fact have different beliefs, rules and traditions.

    some even allow internet :)

    some allow cars, some only if the cars are painted black.

    their beliefs are their beliefs, and they can change, a belief isn't carved in stone.

    it's quite normal for there to be variation, and within the whole amish sect, there is, quite a lot.

    so no, not frauds.

  • and to add,

    someone isn't a fraud because they fail to meet someone else's standard of what they should be, but when they claim to be or do X , but do the opposite in secret.

    amish make no such public claims, it's just something that most people have heard, through the media. movies and hearsay.

    and most of that is the most extreme version of them, calling them frauds for not being what you thought they were, is ignorant and stupid.

    which is exactly what YTY is displaying itself as here.

  • @beebobox That's the thing; this guy is calling the Amish frauds because they don't adhere to his erroneous stereotype of the Amish. Where he got this idea about the Amish, one can only wonder. He clearly doesn't know about the various groups of Amish, nor how the Ordnung works.

  • What an idiot...

  • What a dumbass, there are hundreds of Amish communities and they all got different rules, and about the fuel most of them have horse drawn equipment with an engine mounted on it. (I should know I've been there)