Altermodern -

[guzsaj]

look at the chick... you can see only her profile. The mouth is a pixel. Yet you can tell she's smiling and is totally into this dork.

Curate that, bitch

[ImpliedBodyMan]

No terra incognita. What a eurocentric notion. Nicolas wants Art to be globalist from the start, then perhaps he should understand that the terra incognita is that which we have subsumed beneath the hubristic boot of globalism - See Wade Davis. When we start to see Gods in the stars and spirits in the wind and the trees again - we are in terra incognita.

[mrvonaerial]

Modernist revisionism, or should I say, altermodern revisionism - discursive colonialism. Beware modernity as a word, prefix or suffix. It is a poor art of capture.

[mrvonaerial]

Modernist revisionism, or should I say, altermodern revisionism - discursive colonialism. Beware modernity as a word, prefix or suffix. It is a poor art of capture.

[anthonyantonelliscom]

I love that youtube members are trying to lecture Bourriaud

[mrvonaerial]

@anthonyantonelliscom maybe the whole world can just become altermodern and shut up and show reverence for the words. As Bourriaud says. Sounds like discursive imperialism once again. Or if you like, a magnificent Hegelianism...

[GrayWatchman]

I'm encouraged by the thoughtful nature of most of the comments. I also disagree with the revisionist use of the term modern, as in Post-Modern, Altermodern etc. It is just another retread of Modern. No more Post... no more Neo... I tend to agree with the X-Post and Stuckist attitudes towards the current era.

[nielsvdsteen10]

The rise of street art totally fits in the relational aesthetic theory. It's a language that was given birth to in our collective streets, a space we all share. A space that is being influenced by so many cultures which cannot be separated anymore from each other. Creolisation; changing by exchanging. Altermodern artists create to communicate, taking from a globalized world and reloading this back again through their art. Thanks to Nicolas Bourriaud for giving it a name we have a good discussion

[slopydrunk]

@nielsvdsteen10 hahaha "the streets we all share" that is a cute remark.

[nielsvdsteen10]

The rise of street art totally fits in the relational aesthetic theory. It's a language that was given birth to in our collective streets, a space we all share. A space that is being influenced by so many cultures which cannot be separated anymore from each other. Creolisation; changing by exchanging. Altermodern artists create to communicate, taking from a globalized world and reloading this back again through their art. Thanks to Nicolas Bourriaud for giving it a name we have a good discussion

[benzbubblecat]

such bullshit this is...

[slopydrunk]

@benzbubblecat terrible grammar you have.... yoda.

[shnigeleuf]

Do not confuse Time and History.

[gwyddion1]

There is nothing new here, just bluster. He is just talking about Modernism. Self-promotion and ego.

[lislaskarin]

Funny to claim that we are past modernism and postmodernism, then to take up the very very modernist notion of exploration of the new (his new continent -- time). This is a thinker who has abandoned the acuity of thought in favour of flavour. If not aware of his own self-inclusion in that which he opposes, he does at least have an uncanny sense of the obvious.

[carollinondubs]

Not thoroughly convinced, but definitely intrigued. If more institutions support altermodernism, globally, then maybe it can have more credibility.

[TSTSendee]

part 3. Why we even need to cling onto the word 'modern'?. Allegedly, according to Nicolas 'we don't know what kind of period we are in'. All these are 'euro-centric' ideas and it looks like they have become even more 'euro-centric' now. Look at the artists he has included. London, London and London again. Isn't that ironic? Tate is in London, the artists are based in London. How much of a 'nomadism' is this? I thought the space, the distance, all these barriers are not longer obstacles?!

[t7g6s8]

well if we don't know what we are in then we say something that we do know because we can not pull a word from nothing. i do agree with you, we need to go away from the word modern.

[TSTSendee]

part 2. People have to pay for the catalogue to read his full text on Altermodern, which completely works against the concept of accessibility and openness of artistic practice. The label 'Triennal' was rather big for the show as the hype about his new term 'Altermodern'. I don't see much need to define the current we are in, it is no more than failed attempt of ownership of something can't be possessed by anyone.

[TSTSendee]

It puzzles me sometimes, when someone like Nicolas Bourriaud gets so carried away with ideas and realities we are already living and breathing in. It is as if, he has just discovered and asked few mainly London-based artists to create some works.

[ryanconrath]

didn't Jameson insist that postmodernism accounts more for a space, rather than a historical or chronological 'arrow' as he puts it? not quite sure what all this means. It SOUNDS pretty, but what about what it MEANS?

[birkinstein]

I don't like Relational Aesthetics, but I do like this:

"the last continent to be discovered is time"

[patrickfaithart]

I enjoy the concept of exploring time, also i completely agree that this is a global art phase rather then localized.

[BurytheJumbo]

We establish a global cultural movement by producing a monumental project: we invite everybody to help us burying a Jumbo-Jet Boeing 747.

On one hand, creative individuals make proposals to develop this project.

On the other hand, our members decide the developement of this project.

To become a member you have to make a donation to finance the burial and the production of the ideas of the creative individuals.

[cathnarnia]

Interesting to see where Nicolas' ideas are heading, it will be good to see his new book, as being an artist who practice seems to have a relational aethetic bent (or so I have been told) I seem to be straying into the world of global social media more and more these days.

[rollerjoninwuhan]

Global from scratch, of course! A good phrase! For me personally, it's interesting to see how Chinese people across the 20th century have been dealing with Occidental cultures, and how today the young people in China have totally and effortlessly embraced and are producing this very same global-from-scratch dialog. Check out some Contemporary Chinese Philosophy isbn 0631217258 China's not just funny beards or little red books anymore.

Thanks for this vid. Keep them coming!