If it stops working change the tape , and make it tight , the problem is once it first dries the cotton takes less room and need to be tighter , that is all .
Electrolyte additive at that point can help but it will not solve it . wetting it will not bring it back up if it loosen .
Hi Lidmotor. Sorry to zinc coating on the steel wire breaks down too quickly. Have you tried bare Iron wire? I thought the patent mentioned such. Nice to see the 1/2 inch bolt worked better than the soft iron.
hi would epsom salts soaked on your battery have the removal of oxidising like they are saying it does in lead acid batteries to revive them..no expert at all just trying to suggest melvin
@rroge5 ----Unfortunately the pusle motor required that the one end of the coils be connected in that way to run. Remember that the other end of the coils are left open so there is no dead short. It is the interaction of the two coils laid side by side that makes all this happen. There is a resistance between those two parallel coils as they interact in the water electrolyte. I have this running a Joule Thief now and it is lasting longer.
Is this a problem with most of the wire being used to build these or did you just get the wrong type of wire? I tried looking around online to see about pricing but didn't have much luck.
@Americankettler -----This is same wire that Lasersaber used. I also tried several other types and got absolutely NO results. At least this one ran for a little while. What I really wanted to see is if you could get this battery to magnetize a core ----and it did.
@Lidmotor I wonder if your first coil just dried out too much. You tried AL wire and had the same problem? Did it build oxide or what? Why would that not work?
@kfstevens2370 ----These things do need to be damp but not wet to run. When I took then aluminum wire coil apart the wire simply broke into pieces. The chemical reaction had done it's thing and disolved it. After this Stubblefield coil project Lasersaber built a battery using carbon rods wrapped with magnesium that worked very well. They use only the humidity in the air to work. I will build one of those next.
@Lidmotor I thought about trying that one too with the magnesium and carbon rods but after seeing his how to build NS video part 5 I saw the carbon rods just sitting in a jar near his work bench. I wonder if they just stopped woring? Why are they in that jar? I may still try it but no updates of this 6volt air battery yet form lasersaber. I'll bet it's a short term effect as well.
your corrosion problem is most likely due to the coil being exposed to to much oxygen... galvanic reaction and corrosion although related are not the same thing... possibly sealing your coils after wetting them might solve your problem?
@helpmonkey ----If you have ever made a lemon or potato battery, they do the same thing. As soon as the chemical reaction is over and everything neutralizes ---you have a dead battery. BUT-bury this in the ground and there might be a completly different outcome. That is the way this is really supposed to work. The "Plant Battery" was a prelude to this.
I am glad to see you have made this with the soft core and everything exact. This way there is no "but if"... and you can tell us just how long it does last.
Thank you for posting this. I figured that the life span of these coils would be short due to the galvanic corotion caused by the electron exchange, but having you build them and test them open source is very cool.
If it stops working change the tape , and make it tight , the problem is once it first dries the cotton takes less room and need to be tighter , that is all .
Electrolyte additive at that point can help but it will not solve it . wetting it will not bring it back up if it loosen .
You really need to try it !
abramrk1 1 year ago
Hi Lidmotor. Sorry to zinc coating on the steel wire breaks down too quickly. Have you tried bare Iron wire? I thought the patent mentioned such. Nice to see the 1/2 inch bolt worked better than the soft iron.
VideoVegetable 1 year ago
hi would epsom salts soaked on your battery have the removal of oxidising like they are saying it does in lead acid batteries to revive them..no expert at all just trying to suggest melvin
honda4004 1 year ago
@honda4004 ---Epson salts?? Now that is an idea. Thanks. I will have to look into that.
Lidmotor 1 year ago
maybe it is being destroyed because of it being short circuited, batteries hate being short circuited
rroge5 1 year ago
@rroge5 ----Unfortunately the pusle motor required that the one end of the coils be connected in that way to run. Remember that the other end of the coils are left open so there is no dead short. It is the interaction of the two coils laid side by side that makes all this happen. There is a resistance between those two parallel coils as they interact in the water electrolyte. I have this running a Joule Thief now and it is lasting longer.
Lidmotor 1 year ago
Is this a problem with most of the wire being used to build these or did you just get the wrong type of wire? I tried looking around online to see about pricing but didn't have much luck.
Dave
Americankettler 1 year ago
@Americankettler -----This is same wire that Lasersaber used. I also tried several other types and got absolutely NO results. At least this one ran for a little while. What I really wanted to see is if you could get this battery to magnetize a core ----and it did.
Lidmotor 1 year ago
Lazersaber said in his video: How To Build A Nathan Stubblefield Coil Part 1 that he used Galvanized steel wire. Galvanized steel shouldnt rust
kfstevens2370 1 year ago
@kfstevens2370 ---The galvanizing is a thin coating of zinc and that is what reacts quickly with the copper when there is an electrolyte present.
Lidmotor 1 year ago
@Lidmotor I wonder if your first coil just dried out too much. You tried AL wire and had the same problem? Did it build oxide or what? Why would that not work?
kfstevens2370 1 year ago
@kfstevens2370 ----These things do need to be damp but not wet to run. When I took then aluminum wire coil apart the wire simply broke into pieces. The chemical reaction had done it's thing and disolved it. After this Stubblefield coil project Lasersaber built a battery using carbon rods wrapped with magnesium that worked very well. They use only the humidity in the air to work. I will build one of those next.
Lidmotor 1 year ago
@Lidmotor I thought about trying that one too with the magnesium and carbon rods but after seeing his how to build NS video part 5 I saw the carbon rods just sitting in a jar near his work bench. I wonder if they just stopped woring? Why are they in that jar? I may still try it but no updates of this 6volt air battery yet form lasersaber. I'll bet it's a short term effect as well.
kfstevens2370 1 year ago
That's too bad... I wonder if oil would work in place of the water.
kfstevens2370 1 year ago
@kfstevens2370 ----I though about spraying it with WD-40 but then I would have a nice non-rusted paper weight that made no electricity.
Lidmotor 1 year ago
Ah such a shame, I was sold :)
StealthModeLondon 1 year ago
@StealthModeLondon ---So was I.
Lidmotor 1 year ago
your corrosion problem is most likely due to the coil being exposed to to much oxygen... galvanic reaction and corrosion although related are not the same thing... possibly sealing your coils after wetting them might solve your problem?
helpmonkey 1 year ago
@helpmonkey ----If you have ever made a lemon or potato battery, they do the same thing. As soon as the chemical reaction is over and everything neutralizes ---you have a dead battery. BUT-bury this in the ground and there might be a completly different outcome. That is the way this is really supposed to work. The "Plant Battery" was a prelude to this.
Lidmotor 1 year ago
Insert tears here. Man that just hurts.
marthale7 1 year ago
@marthale7 "Insert tears here"? How about --insert picture here of a man shoving his fist through a wall.
Lidmotor 1 year ago
Oh this is very disappointing.
I am glad to see you have made this with the soft core and everything exact. This way there is no "but if"... and you can tell us just how long it does last.
Thanks for posting this.
jeanna
jeannacav 1 year ago
@jeannacav ---A least Phyllis is alive, healthy, and turns on a nice night light every night. She watched this whole thing and never said a word. lol
Lidmotor 1 year ago
Thank you for posting this. I figured that the life span of these coils would be short due to the galvanic corotion caused by the electron exchange, but having you build them and test them open source is very cool.
Peace, and keep having fun.
Mike.
mikepowers420 1 year ago
@mikepowers420 -----I have to share the success along with the failures if I think that it will help someone else. Open source IS very cool.
Lidmotor 1 year ago