Heliotrope Bouquet - SCOTT JOPLIN (1907) Ragtime Piano Legend

[79barkingspider]

Piano rolls mostly had the shortcoming of sounding flat and colorless. Ampico and DuoArt made rolls in the twenties that could be played on players with an expression line. The music increased and diminished in intensity.

[CarltonJWilkinson]

these recordings sound like they're being played back on a Casio keyboard.

[MuseDuCafe]

computer driven player piano, almost certainly a sampled virtual, flat-line volume and not the teeniest bit of dynamic change just completely kills it. It is a couple of ticks too fast as well. No accounting for taste, or lack of it.

[jackdorito]

@MuseDuCafe It's called a piano roll. And for the record, I agree with you.

[Cutie9080]

the way it's played sounds like it was rewriten to be mario music -.-"

[Ivanka1991]

@Cutie9080 haha idd!

[Cutie9080]

the way it's played sound like it was rewriten to be mario music -.-"

[9new5]

"ragtime isnt meant to be played fast"

[peruanadaz]

sounds like a midi

[gordonrhcp]

slow or fast still sounds pretty good

[lhrmeonom]

Guys, I don't even think he played this, it was probably loaded onto a computer program, I mean, listen, the whole piece is played in the same volume.

[MuseDuCafe]

about 30% too fast - shame, the music doesn't come through. The sample quality detracts, and the quantize near atomic-clock even-ness kills music at any tempo.

Pity, his gracious rag has no chance in this rendiion.

[MuseDuCafe]

So many people play all ragtime too fast: you are clearly one of them.

[lightlyfire]

Too fast !

You're turning a great ragtime into a rubish cell-phone music !!!!

[GypsyFairy85]

Too damn fast!

[hatatske]

this is too fast  :/ sounds like rubbish tbh. joplin's scores clearly state how it shouldn't be played too fast - no ragtime should be played too fast.

[ilikewiigames]

@hatatske omg yea... so fast. Its better slow

[lilataubenei]

horryfiing!! Only Quality of sound is congruent to the Dynamic of your playing, i guess, it was played slowly on a keyboard and then replayed in the present speed, by someone, who can´t really play piano.

Sorry, but ragtime should be played with an weird and intoxicating effect.

This should be bloqued!

[bodywhomp98]

Yes, I agree. Way too fast. This piece is so balmy and lyrical, beautiful, like a woman's sigh, her parasol, a gentle courtship, not a derby race. A gibson Girl elegance and funny how as much as I love Joplin's Rags, in this piece, Chauvin's parts are so much better than Joplin's. strange.

But slow down. Never right to play Ragtime fast! do what Joplin says and writes, and you get his effects. Anything else is vulgar trampy hack stuff.

[Karlfalcon]

Way way WAY too fast.

This is a SLOW drag. You have it racing at 180bpm when it really should be no faster than 115, TOPS.

(or 90 and 57bpm, if you're counting half-notes)

[beakt]

@Karlfalcon 57 bpm "TOPS"? Wrong... Scott Joplin wrote metronome markings on several of his pieces, most of them 100 beats per half-note, even where it said "Very Slow March Tempo".  Slowest he marked was 72 (Eugenia). I like to play this in the 70s, though, because it is more intricate than something like Sugar Cane. A regular March tempo, by the way, is about 132 per half-note (think Stars and Stripes Forever, which was contemporary march music). That's why a slow march tempo is 100.

[Karlfalcon]

@beakt

Maybe I'm feeling whole notes as half notes, in which case my initial suggestion of 115 still works and is better than 180 for pete's sake.

[beakt]

@Karlfalcon Actually, I messed up my post. heheh... I meant Joplin wrote (Sugar Cane, Pineapple) 100 beats per quarter note (not half note), which is 2 beats per measure (2/4 time). This video is just under that. But, as I said, he noted a range of tempos, down to 72. I like H.B. around there, certinaly not 57 bpm "max"! This is a dance! Lyrical and melodious, yes, but don't miss the point by playing it too soupy. Then again, play it how you want, it's a free country!

[lokolokolokoloko100]

@Karlfalcon this is the original version.. i heard it in a cd by scott joplin.. it was play also by jelly morton

[Karlfalcon]

@lokolokolokoloko100

Scott Joplin never made any audio recordings

[voodootabby]

His songs kick trash!!!!

[chkjns]

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[dipalma07]

It's hard to believe that the first half of this song was composed by one person (Chauvin), and the second half, by a another (Joplin). These men were way ahead of their time. Sadly, both died before reaching the age of 50.

[awesomewelles90]

really the first half was not composed by Joplin?

[dipalma07]

From my research, the first half was done entirely by Louis Chauvin, and the second half by Scott Joplin. That's the amazing thing about these two gentlemen. They worked so well together, it's difficult to believe that two individuals contributed to the whole of this song. Remember: we set our own limits to what we can do.

[looney1023]

@awesomewelles90

the first half was composed by chauvin, but joplin wrote it on paper for him so it would be published, but he created 2 variations( the second half)

[beckybigbones]

I am in the process of learning this compostion. I just have to get the notes under my fingers.

[Doug19752533]

@beckybigbones its a great rag to play. just dont play it too fast. i ususally play it at a tempo about 60 and keep a steady tempo. the listiner shouldnt be able to determine where Chauvins writing ends and Joplins begins, although we know the A and B sections are by Chauvin, and the C and D are by Joplin. best of luck to you!