The European Axis powers failed everything against the British-Soviets, Operation Sealion possible invasion of Britain could not even get past stage1, Battle of Britain-RAF Victory. The Axis failed attempts 2 invade& occupy British-Africa. Operation Barberossa, Ends in disaster with Moscow and the fact millions of Axis are been killed, Stalingrad major turning point.
@WorstCommenter2008 It was impossible for the Axis to even attept an invasion of Britain. Also in North-Africa, both Germany-Italy failed everything, The same in the Mid-East and the in the Med. It was the same in the East, Barberossa ended in disaster with Moscow-Rostov everything went down hill after. British-Soviets were always going to win, Napolean done a better job.
@martynrobin121 Under the leadership of hitler, even the worlds most mightiest armies combined vs some partisians would fail. Hitler had the leadership skills of a twelve year old who knows only one thing, best defence is a good offence.
@WorstCommenter2008 If your'e saying hitler was purely a defensive leader, you're wrong. The reason he is known for his defense is because well, let's think about how this realistically, the germans were being attacked by the rest of the WORLD how do you attack the world alone. You are forced to defend. The axis were fighting scores of NATIONS it is a sure sign of superiority when you can hold out 5 years, 100-1.
I read on a little known facts of WWII website the Americans were practicing landing on Utah beach in England before the invasion. The Germans attacked them with about 10 E-boats. They sunk 2 landing craft, and killed about 436 men. That was about 10 times the amount killed on Utah beach the day they landed, losing approx. 43 men. according to that site.
@clintonearlwalker ...that was at a place called Slapton Sands near Dartmouth on the English Channel. "Operation Tiger" was a D Day rehearsal by the Americans. The total number of people lost was in fact higher. 749 soldiers and sailors were lost in a "hit and run" raid by the German torpedo boats. The Germans attacked at midnight, it was an opportunistic attack, they heard a lot of radio chatter and crossed the Channel from France very fast. The E-Boats travelled at 50mph.
@clintonearlwalker ...there's a memorial to these guys on the beach at Slapton, it's a Sherman Tank. The E-Boats sank two large Landing-Ships with lots of military vehicles and tanks on them. Years later a Sherman tank was found on the sea bed near the beach. It was dragged from the sea and up the beach with heavy chains. As it reached the beach the wheels and tracks began turning, a true testament to the US designers and engineers that built it.
@jonnibegood1 Thanx for that, I had absolutely no knowledge of this incident whatever until I seen it on that site. That site had all sorts of WW II events, (massacres, bombings, explosions etc.) that I had never heard of. Life must have been pretty cheap in those days. At least those guys have a memorial. I've spent many hours looking at pics and vids of WW II since I got a computer. I can understand why Eisenhower wrote to his wife, "God, I hate the Germans".
@clintonearlwalker ...Yes I can understand his sentiment at that time. The weird thing is that the Germans were only our (the Brits) enemy during the two world wars due to the ego's of Hitler and the Kaiser. Historically and genetically speaking they are our cousins and allies. Before unification, the Germanic States helped us to "beat up" Napolean at Waterloo in 1815, and they've always been bloody handy in a fight. Life's circle has completed and they are allies and friends again. :)
@jonnibegood1 Friends and allies again? But for how long? Personally, I don't consider these historical events from long ago to be as significant as the type of government Germany seems to produce. (of course I'm not European). The Germans may have called their government National Socialism, when in fact it was iron clad dictatorship. How long before the next Hitler?
@clintonearlwalker ...my concern, (as well as many other Europeans) is not so much Germany alone, but the whole EU setup at Brussels, new European-wide laws are being introduced by a bunch of unelected beaurocrats.. ...that's the thin end of the wedge, and a recipe for economic and political disaster. Fortunately UK didn't join the Euro (currency) and the present UK government is contesting and neutralising a lot of European law.
@jonnibegood1 I'm an Amercian and I can't even keep track of the criminal politicians we have in this country trying to start wars every single day. I'm pretty unfamiliar with the EU set up. I remember when the UK wouldn't give up the pound though. I've seen many comments on various vids of people in Europe talking about a unified Europe and "One Europe". It will probably cause problems down the road. However, I also remember East and West Germany and the flash point that was.
There's a new English comedy spoof movie that's come out, it's called "The Hunt for Tony Blair". He's being chased by the cops because he had to be arrested for "war crimes" lol
The EU set-up is beaurocratic nonsense... It was meant to be a "European free trade zone" and used to be called "The Common Market"... ...but then the "euro" Civil Servants moved in, and it grew into an unelected "government"
I read so many negative comments about the USA. I often wonder if any of those commenting have ever been to the USA, or where they get their opinion. America has flaws, but compared to the nine foreign countries (not 3rd world either) where I've lived, it's lightyears ahead. I've lived in countries in Europe and Asia.
battle ships or anything with a good long range gun should have been used to destroy the gun fortifications...... pour planing on the allies part....useless mass loss of life....
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Im sorry but you rabbiting crazy propaganda. Not one single nation by itself could have won the war. Do you know how close the Soviet Union came to defeat? Pretty close. If it wasn't for the supply lines through Iran and across the Arctic seas bringing ammunition, tanks, aircraft, boots, trucks and oil then the Soviet Union would have run out of material to fight the war with. Her factories were destroyed, at the same time the West also relied on the huge sacrifice that the USSR made and with
@ginjaninja1988 I am sorry but I still disagree.... the soviet Union rebuilt their factories Near the Oural.....
As I said, you don't win a war with material...... How can you reasonably think that the germans could have stayed in a country as huge as the USSR......................... Even.. with all the oil of the caucasus their line of supply would be lethal.... all the partisans in their back destroying their communications..YOU CANT WIN A WAR against millions of hating enemies !!
@ginjaninja1988 remember the lessons of Vietnam, of Afghanistan, of IraQ,...The US had an overwhelming material advantage and look what happened to them !! THE USSR would have won the war WITHOUT the help of the US..It was just a matter of time !!...And of Space of course ! YOU CAN'T WIN AGAINST A DETERMINED POPULATION who is defending his territory.. and what a territory.. to think otherwise is nonsense !!
@TheBenvoliomozart I am from the Philippines and during the Philippine-American War (1899-1902) and the following Philippine insurgency (1899-1913) the US successfully, captured the Philippines, overthrew the Philippine government, CRUSHED THE PHILIPPINE INSURGENCY and made the Philippines a US COLONY. The US Army killed 1.5 million Filipinos as of result.
Don't get me wrong, I am still very pro-American but I just want to show that it is possible to crush an insurgency.
@e0o9kii Your comment is very interesting !! But the conditions were radically different.. the philippines are islands..thus easy to blocade considering the gap between the Us fleet and the phillipines one....
The USSR is NOT an island..it is a continent !! No way to blokade.......in a middle of a sea (land) full of hidden enemies !! If the philippines had the geography of the USSR the US would have retreated with teir tails between their legs......
@TheBenvoliomozart It happened to the Philippines in that period what happened to England in 1066. When you invade an Island or an archipelago it is either an overwhelming victory (colonization) or a quick retreat !!
@e0o9kii I don't understand why you are pro american... but you must have your reasons....
I am neither pro nor anti american....... as far as the american PEOPLE is concerned !! I rather speak of the leading people of this country..... and their present tendancy to not see their mistakes, their crimes and their defeats !!! I would say that I am anti american way of life.... whith their pseudo democracy and real financial plutocracy !!
@TheBenvoliomozart 82% of the Filipino people are pro-American (according to BBC). There are 4,000,000+ (and 250,000 Americans living in Philippines) Filipinos living in the US, US helped us in the Philippine revolution for independence against Spain, US liberated us in WW2, US helps us today in counter-terrorism and natural disasters and the Philippines is very Americanized with US TV shows, movies, music, inventions, etc.
The Philippine-American War was just politics. Its forgiven already.
@ginjaninja1988 I will repeat again..the only nation who was able to defeat the germans was the USSR......
It is not their ability to fight which is at stake it is the shape and the inner power of the geography of their country ! It is the law of nature.. How can you imagine that the germans would be able to control such a country surrounded by millions of mortal enemies !! It is just plain foolish !! Hitler himself had this feeling !!
@ginjaninja1988 In fact, even if the germans would have had the strength of several US, it would have happened to them in USSR what is happening to the US forces in Iraq.... hiding behind forteresses, spending billions...and waiting for................................retreat !!!!!!! It would have been even worse for the germans ...imposing a "Gau" with a gauleiter.......... which have been murdered soon after beeing in charge !!!
@TheBenvoliomozart If the Germans had been murdering nutters obsessed with racial purity, killing jews and slavs at every opportunity then most of the populace of the Soviet Union would have continued to support the Germans as liberators from Stalin. Most Russians saw the Germans as liberators; just Nazi ideaology and SS Death Squads removed that support. Same with US forces in Iraql; they kill civilians so have lost their support. Thus they will loose as well.
@ginjaninja1988 Excuse me, but your comment is ridiculous...........Since the very beginning, the germans wanted to conquer russia in order to have their 'vital space"...How could they invade a country and free russians at the same time...this is nonsense!! and this is why ,since the very beginning they were going to loose !! Remember Napoleon...... It is the reason why stalin in his 1941, speech when the Germans were near Moscow spoke of................kutuzov !!! German defeat was ineluctable
@TheBenvoliomozart Yes I know that average German soldiers were involved in the mass murder; I never said they invaded for honest purposes but it is true that many Russians welcomed the Germans as liberators from the terrors of Stalinism. That was atleast until the Nazis proved to be just as brutal. Anyway this is a silly argument.
@ginjaninja1988 and you are wrong concerning the culprits of massmurder in russia. The german soldiers obeyed the order to consider the russians a slave race and to kill ALL political commissioners...The german army killed million of Russians, not only the einzatgruppen from behind the lines ! They tried to support the Ukrainian movement but this was incompatible with the main mission : occupy and enslave Russia !!
@pauldrew6 Yes but without the british he could have done nothing !! You just don't win a war with tanks and material......War is a matter of information..... And the british, thanks to their link with french resistance had plenty of information..... Without the help of the population you can't do anything and the americans would have retreat on Omaha and Utah and reembarked !!! They almost did on Omaha actually !! While the british were waiting for them at Juno and Sword !!
@pauldrew6 OMG !! My dear dear Paul....... If there is a country who has the shortest memory..it is actually the US... Your memory is proportionnal to your History.............SHORT !!....The "Brits" , the french have a long long history and a lot to think of........They faced (particuliarly the french) many conflicts on ther soil............. They know MUCH BETTER than the U.S. citizens what war means..............You, U.S. citizens are stuck to one event in your flash history !
I hate war and think that for the large part it is used to gain the interests of a few who use it to remove threats to their power and prosperity. I do think there is a place for war in defending Liberty and Freedom (atleast what is left of it). I do not believe in foreign intervention or Empire. Though ww2 while created in part by Western powers had to be fought. Germany and Japan were a threat to everyone. And yes I believe in Freedom...but not the BS fake freedom that politicans push.
@ginjaninja1988 Your comments are very sensible.... and a lot to think of...............;
But I am very doubtul about war as a mean of resistance against evil.....
To people who think that, without american intervention, the Nazi would have won and french speak german.don(t know anything about history and psychology ! Remember the center of german opposition against Hitler was in Paris. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO EVEN THINK THAT THE GERMANS WOULD HAVE STAYED LONG IN FRANCE !!!
It is interesting to question the reason of this operation.... It IS NOT DEFINITLY TO FREE EUROPE ! Wars have and always will be a matter of MONEY !! The argument of "freedom" is the eternal bullshit always claimed to encourage little boys to enlist as history told us on many occasions. I am amazed that despite all recent events they are still people who really believe the american intervention in Europe was to free people !!! School boys ! you deserve to believe this crap !!
@TheBenvoliomozart And while Governments continue to push global war it is important that we do not forget the folly and evil done. But we must also remember those who died in such conflicts on both sides, and I am very much against the type of patriotism that the others who I were repremanding on this video were displaying. e.g. My country is better than yours and I m going to shit all over yours because at the end of the day we are all humans created equal and born free despite our differences
@TheBenvoliomozart And at the end of the day without fighting Nazi Germany the world would be far worse off than it is today. Yet at the same time we probably would not have had to fight if ww1 didn't happen. But there is nothing wrong with celebrating the defeat of tyranny. And it is a shame that we ended the war with a new Empire and a Cold War instead of seeking the peace that many of those who fought and died for hoping that we would have a new world.
@pauldrew6 And the message below goes to you also. Shut up with your moronic blabbering. Everyone here sees you for blundering fool you are. By the way blind Patriotism that takes its source from shitting on everyone else's nation is not flattering and is what landed the world in the mess of two world wars; check your attitude.
@pauldrew6 thus making you american only by birth, a true, rel american would be your natives, who i have the up most respect for .... you however ar a key example of generalised american rascism that proves you not as a country to be respected but one to fucking hate cause we gain the misconception that its filled with fucking retards like you!
@pauldrew6 You Sir, are a highly uneducated, somewhat racist biggot, you are the reason the world hates your country, paitriotism is fine by me , how ever to disreguard all countries other then yours is plain ignorance . further more you just explained what you are. america is, like almost all civilised countries, a hybrid of diffrent nationaillties. with irish and welsh in you i would suggest your family grew from either immergrants, or coloinals,
Listen, pauldrew6 is an idiot, i'm American and can admit as much. Just reading his jingoistic prattle, one can tell right away that the guy has never served in any of the armed forces, let alone fight out of a paper bag. Just know that most of us in the US admire and respect the British armed forces, and are ever thankful for our "special friendship".
@Evocati2008 Hey, man. Thanks. I know that people like him are in a minority.
I have nothing but admiration and respect for all that the US did for the world, by becoming involved in the war. If my ranting makes me appear anti-US, then I apologise.
I know the guy's an idiot. He's just another member of the moron brigade who believe that their country is better than everyone else's because they were born in it.
There are people in the UK like that, too. I also despise them : D
@Englander30 You sir are a gross moron of the most pompus sort. Your obvious ignorance in these matters of 'real' history is quite clear. Note before I say these things that I am not American and I am of British decent. Britian could not have won the war without the United States, nor could have the Soviet Union. In speaking of the war the entire free world owes that Greatest Generation of Americans whether G.I, Sailor, Marine, Airman, Coast Guard or a riveter in an aircraft factory, a farm hand
@ginjaninja1988 I am sorry to tell you , you are very naive !!
The americans did not enter the war to gently free the poor defeated people of europe from german domination!! If it was so, they would have declare war in 1939...which they did'nt. They were forced by the events !! The increase power of Japan in the pacific and the danger of a german domination of the atlantic did it for them..... In fact the real war was the atlantic and pacific one... the control of free trading....MONEY !!
@TheBenvoliomozart Hey, you know the best gun to by? A French Army gun, never been fired and only dropped once. You know where French soldiers get shot most? In the arm pit when they put up their hands in surrender. Get it? We should have let Hitler keep you.
Fuck, your people even joined the SS in WWII, right?
@clovenrick What can I say to such childish comment !! Please, read a book..at least one .;on the subject...
Use your brain !! you are a man !! not a machine !! France has 2000 years of history, wars, invasions etc.... alas his soil is filled with blood. 1 million frenchmen and german died just at Verdun...because..nobody wanted to surrender..In one battle, french had more casualties than in all american history !! How can you even imagine that Hitler could have kept France ! It is impossible
@TheBenvoliomozart your right, the germans and french bled each other white at verdun and the somme and passendale and the marne ( forgive misspelliings) and ypers etc but i think you lost all the good men in the first war no nerve left for the second
@clovenrick And BTW it is "to buy" and not "to by"...Go back to primary school, learn to write and read...then BUY or rent a history book on the matter and come back when you have finished your primary and secondary education ! For your information : Edward VIII, king of England had sympathies for Hitler and supported Mosley.
If you don't know who is Mosley...buy history for dummies..............
@TheBenvoliomozart fuk yu yu frech fogot I hav forgotn mor histy than yul evr no moter fruker but i nevr clamd to be abl tooo tipe son o a bich. yae and eye no who mosly is he dat dmb as nazy wnna b and henry wernt king four long were he?
And yes, hitler could have kept you. How the fuck could you have rid yourselves of him? What magic trick would do what your army couldnt?
@TheBenvoliomozart why dont you answer the questions mother fucker?????? henry, edward who gives a fuck he gave up the crown for a whore and was banished to bermuda for all i know you have his name wrong i know the history i just dont give a flying fuck for a nazi wanna be traitor
@ginjaninja1988 I disagree with you.......... The Soviet Union would have won the war WITH or WITHOUT the american help !!! Look at a map, remember "WAR and Peace" from Tolstoï....... The defeat of the germans in USSR was INELUCTABLE !! The only difference is that it would have take longer without the americans ..NOTHING ELSE !! To defeat the USSR it would have required the power of several United states ! The front line was gigantic ! the supplies were a lethal problem for the Wehrmacht
@TheBenvoliomozart their help could not have won the war. But to minimalize the role of the US is silly and based on rivalry that is based on no facts. The American factories were the power behind every western nation and behind much of the Red Army. Lend Lease was vital to winning the war. America fought a war on four fronts against three enemies at the same time. But it was an allied effort that won the war; no induvidual nation. Everyone chipped in and fough hard. For example my nation
@TheBenvoliomozart New Zealand put forward over 10% of our small population to fight. We lost huge numbers but yet without us the war in the Desert would have been far harder to win. The LRDG and the SAS would never have been created. Not to mention the huge amount of agricultural produce we sent to Great Britian which without she would have starved. So Again I say we all had to rely on one another to win, even if some of our respective efforts were smaller than others we all made sacrifices.
@ginjaninja1988 I continue.... it was such a lethal problem that in one battle (Stalingrad) The Red army cutted the lines like we cut butter and surrendered the VI th german army.............. And I tell You, even if the germans had won in stalingrad... the front line would have grown larger and another Stalingrad would have occured ! It was a question of time... the americans were useless against geography and psychology
@Englander30 on a Kansas wheat farm or a Scientist on the Manhattan Project their very freedom! Without American manpower, inovation, capital, guts and blood Britian the war would have been lost. For British Soldiers rode in American made Sherman Tanks to Germany and Soviet Soldiers drove Ford Trucks and marched in American made boots to Berlin. Yes the free world owes the people of the United States of that time very much indeed. That is of course not to say that the same gratitude is owed to
@Englander30 millions of Britons, Russians, French, Chinese...and the list goes on. The point I am making is that we all did our part in the war and without each other none of us could have won; for it truly would have been divide and conquer. There is no agrument of any intellect or reason in either an American or a Briton boasting that their nation won the war despite the lack of effort on the other's part. It was a team effort and one would think that we would honour the sacrifice of millions
@ginjaninja1988 Actually, I have been reading up on the history of WW2 for some years.
I was having a bad few days when I posted those comments. I agree, I did look like a pompous moron. I can assure you that, in reality, I'm neither of those things.
@Englander30 by coming together and celebrating the Victory of our brave men and women who stood united to defeat the worst scourage the world has seen. That we would celebrate that some Liberty and Freedom was saved from the clutches of evil. That we would not only never forget the horror and evil of what we faced and what we had to do; but that we would remember the sacrifices all our peoples made. So I would ask you to have some respect and understanding.
@ginjaninja1988 : "by coming together and celebrating the Victory of our brave men..........." My God !!
Are you serious ?... Do you really believe in this old cold crap served for centuries to deceive people in order to risk their lives for others interests ?? There is no bravery, no courage in wars!! Only evil and foolish excuses made for little boys !!
@pauldrew6 No, we aren't envious of the US. We think you're hilarious. Swaggering around the world, thinking you're Johnny Concrete, like you own the place. No, we're fuck!ng glad we're not you.
And kicked our arses in the revolutionary war??? Incorrect.
1: The US didn't EXIST in those days. You were just a rag-tag collection of colonies back then.
2: We were WINNING until France joined in to help you out.
3: We burned the Whitehouse to the ground in the war of 1812. Eat that.
@pauldrew6 Engish women are beautiful. Again with the stereotypes. I'm getting a little bored of you, chum. Orthodontists? Again, you're thinking of the Royal family. Learn something about my country, you ignorant cowboy, and then I'll take you seriously.
I hate people that do this but I guess I'm one of them, check out my video: watch?v=Ojh-wcS2t9s.
It's a little montage I put together of Battle of France footage. Tell me what you think it's my first video so I need your most brutal criticsm if I have any hope to improve. Again sorry for this awful self promotion but I don't know how else to do it.
I also would like to say that there's a distinct difference between Germans and Nazi. Germans are like anybody else, they're people, like you and me. But Nazi's are murderous creeps, and I would never recognize them as a culture of whatever sort. And I've heard people DO think it's a culture, which is disturbing in my opinion. It's like saying terrorism is a culture.
Just want to share my position on these issues. :)
@UnforgettableRiver Nazi's are no different then anyone else, don't believe the Jewish propaganda of WWII. There's no evidence of mass murder, and it would take 68 years to gas 6 million people
D-Day to Berlin? maybe to Torgau but not to Berlin. i wonder why in West-berlin we have an "War-Cemetery" (in English !) of course we have several russian and german war cemetery's but an US-cemetery? in Berlin? what the hell? the Us and other western Troops never fought in Berlin.
but is understand now why many people believe that the US free Ausschwitz and Sobibor.
I see the allies aswell as axis made the same mistakes,the distances were too great,the soldiers too little in number,failing logistics along with commanders at the front and rear not having a clue what was going on.
You know what. Instead of seeing who took the brunt of the war the most, we should honor the long dead, and those who survived to tell the story. And to continue the fight against liberalistic leftists who want to rewrite history in their own image, not in the image of the victorious and defeated dead.
Rommel was an infantry officer who used tanks. much like Patton.. one of the problems the Brits had in N Africa was their commander Alexander was captured early on and it took time to find a replacement for him.
You focus on Africa too much. It is called WORLD war II. The Americans,later than the quarreling europeans, eventually did join the war and look at all their accomplishments.Not including the pacific,They sucessfully coordinated D-Day, the largest amphibian operation known to mankind. They sucessfully held at the battle of the bulge and even pushed the hardened Wermacht back which started that mad dash to Berlin. So before you go bashing America, they were the deciding factor in both world wars.
Word of advice, when you hear rumors of beinging home by christmas prepare for the worst because every time that phrase has been used in war, it has lead to disaster
Oops, Overlord and Market Garden are two diffrent things. Btw Eisenhower adjusted the Market Garden thing into a double agenda item for the US Army.When Monty and Patton had done what the intentions of Market Garden were, then there wouldnt have been so much pockets of resistence as Monty predicted. It was eisenhower whos to blame for the stagnation. Remember that Overlord was finished 10 days before schedule. That was monty's contribution and no one elses.
@TheNovaAxon Monty should have never suggested such a thing in the first place. He knew Airborne forces were ill equipped for prolonged engagements. And the plans he made were scattered. The sole planning went to him. Eisenhower only approved of it because Monty promised the wars end by Christmas. The Americans didn't want to be in the Operation in the first place because they knew that it was suicide to go against such a strong force. Double that of mistaken intelligence.
@TheNovaAxon Also, Overlord just barely succeeded, you seem to exclude American EFFORTS. Omaha AND Utah, both were almost turned back. While the French Canadians and Brits got the Easy beaches, little resistance. Possibly a few hundred, compared to the thousands lost by our Airborne and Army Units.
Why we humans are building weapons, why we cant life in a friendliy wise...its realy poor to fight against ourself...because in a wise we are all brothers and sisters, because we are one spezies
I hate WORLD WAR II, i hate every WAR... I HATE EVERY COUNTRIES
CAN'T WE HUMAN LIVE NORMAL AND CARE UR OWN SHIT...
FFS... WWIII still could be possible if China or US dont build good relationship together. AND FOR people that keep say bad stuff abt other country coz OF WWII
Stop that... thats MOSTLY why people start WAR coz of HATE!!! STOP HATE!! FFS
I wish the military commanders and politicians who went to war had to lead their men into battle IN PERSON...heck man.....we would then see a tremendous decline in the use of warfare, but as a last and final resort.......instead innocent people die for leaders who can't stomach the battle field themselves!
America attacked Normandy, the British captured and secured towns, like Caen, to take care of batteries and more that were aiming for Normany.
Italy was trying to gain some land, but it failed and Germany had to help them which made Hitler lose some troops, I believe he failed to take over England because of that.
However, Germany was, and maybe still is a powerful country, and thank god Russia distracted them, thanks to America, Britain, Russia and all countries helping.
You're all arguing about who should get the most credit for winning WWII...? That's just BRILLIANT people. Obviously that time has clouded the ugliness of war, and the peace that was made has been lost on you. So please, keep fighting and trying to take credit for something that happened before you were even born....
@corebare Coming from you? Were you born you arrogent prick? They argue out of a sense of pride. A sense of pride in their nations that gave up young men and resources to stop a tyrant that would of enslaved all of europe. So please shut your mouth.
The german armies in 1944 were nothing like the german armies that had took europe 1938-1940 MOST HAD DIED IN RUSSIAN FRONT AND NORTH AFRICA ITALY!! Hitlers focus was on russian front he didnt beleive the allies would attack(even know he was told they would) American forces were poorly trained and british allied forces were tired and many british armies had been destroyed they had been fighting far so long! RESPECT TO ALL THE SOLDIERS SHAME ON THERE GOVERMENTS!
American, along with British and common wealth forces had already driven the Germans from North Africa and most of Italy by 1944 gaining invaluable experience that only the heat of combat can offer; by the same time that American Marine and Army divisions were invading the Philippines and the Mariana Islands and hence getting closer to the Japanese main islands in the Pacific by 1944 as well.
@Eurofighter19 The British were well trained and experianced and they were masters in desert warfare they turned the tide against rommel and axis in north africa! And The Allies Britain/America had greater numbers,resources,air-power in italy and it became a blood bath. And america was a very poor army compared to germany! Western front proves this kids as young as 13 holding the allies back for months. Germans were even better trained than the british.
@BandOfBrothers25 How?? The British won the battle of Al Alamein ALONE! After that the Axis were on full retreat U.S forces came into the war in Africa when the british were on the advance. The British turned the tide both over the Air and Africa. They won the battle of britain and Africa. I dont see what U.S soldiers have to do with it?? They just helped drive ALL axis forces out of Africa when they were losing.
@martynrobin121 Around the that time, the British were winning the war in Africa because Rommel was not receiving the necessary amount of supplies needed. When Hitler war going to grant his wish of more men and more fuel, it was too late due to the Americans joining, the Americans joining ensured a defeat. The British needed the Americans in order to claim ultimate victory. When Rommel did have supplies he chased the British all the way back. Fuel shortage and Americans meant defeat for Rommel.
@BandOfBrothers25 Rommel never had resources and supplies most of what he had was off captured british bases. The Resources that were coming through were been blown up by the R.A.F the british had broke there codes and knew where and when there supplies would be. The Italians na dgermans were also not as experiances in desert warfare as the british. And after Al Alamein the Axis had no chance of winning the british ahd the man power and resources the Axis failed.
@BandOfBrothers25 And your just making excuses, If the British /French had know about blitzreig warfare they would have defeated the germans in north france 1940 but they didnt. Italians and Germans after Alamein was on full retreat they could do nothing more they had wasted there chance. And Americans were poor compared to the axis and british in africa they just didnt have the experiance and mind for desert warfare.
@colonelchris92 Britain needed time to recover after the defeat at Norway,France 1940, However they still stopped an Axis invasion and humiliated the Luftwaffe in the battle of britain 1940, And by 1942 was winning in the west, And by 1943 the British and Americans were invading Italy,1944-D-Day-Berlin.
@BandOfBrothers25 The British 8th army turned the tide in the war in north africa. Hitler couldnt send the resources and fuel as Russains advance started to slow and all supplies and men were needed in the eastern front.It was the italians who got the germans into North Africa and it proved to be a hudge mistake and waste of men and reources.
@martynrobin121 I am completely aware of that. Mussolini wanted to prove to Hitler that his armies could do something. When he was talking to Hitler, he and his generals in a way insulted the Italians and said they weren't fit for action. And yes Hitler was more worried about the Eastern front so he sent all he could there in including Waffen SS units such as Das Reich,Totenkopf,and LSSAH.
@BandOfBrothers25 Yes Mussolini wanted to create an empire the nazis looked unstoppable after they defeated france and pushed the british out of Europe. With there blitzreig warfare. And yes hitler thought the italians were incapable of winning after there humiliation in N.Africa but Rommel actually had respect for the Italian soldiers. And Eastern Front 1942 was where hitlers focus on it wasnt going to plan there advance was been stopped and the weather was horrific it was turning nasty.
@martynrobin121 I believe that had Hitler gave Rommel the supplies needed he could have pushed the British out of the Middle East. For Exp. Look at what Rommel was able to achieve with the little resources he had and somewhat small amount of man power, he pushed the British all the way back. That would also mean an exceptionally high amount of casualties. He needed more men and fuel.He said after Hitler promoting him "I would rather he had given me one more division"
@BandOfBrothers25 Yes i agree Rommel was agreat general he knew how to trap and get the british tanks and forces into ambushes. When Rommel arrived the Italians and Germans turned the tide in N.Africa the british were driven out of Libya on the borders of Egypt. Churchill ordered a last stand and no more retreat while the british were getting more tanks and air-craft and resources in. The Axis couldnt they were over stretched. If Rommel had the men and resources he could of done anything.
@martynrobin121 I am just happy that there is someone that actually agrees with me. But for the Italians outnumbered the British in a lot of the battles fought in north Africa. They had little combat experience,no response to the terrain(little at that),lack of leadership,lack of amour,lack of ammunition,and a relatively small amour of soldiers. For what they had, they did their job the best they could. They have my respect.
@BandOfBrothers25 Everybody agrees Rommel was a great general and turned the tide in North Africa he had his chance but he did blow it. And the British turned the tide at the battle of Al Alamein with the Axis on full retreat. Then when the U.S arrived it was just the case of driving the Axis out once and for all. And the Italians had man-power thats all they had the british were just too good in tactics and experiance and leaders. It became a war with Rommel and Monty and Monty won.
@BandOfBrothers25 Are you joking?? British had Monty who was a great leader and they had resources and enigma. You will find it was the british had good leaders is they had lacked leaders they would have lost! You will find it was the Americans who lacked good leaders when they came to N.Africa they basically lacked everything.
@martynrobin121 I did not say he was a bad leader, the lacked in leaders,for exp. Say he were to be KIA,there would be almost no one to take his place that would actually make a substantial difference in the African campaign. He was a great leader in Africa but not elsewhere. He is the reason Market Garden took place and was a failure.
@BandOfBrothers25 Monty was great leader in N.Africa without him the british wouldnt have turned the tide against the axis forces and the British and America wouldnt of driven the Axis out of N.Africa. Look at how many priosoners rommel took??
@TheNovaAxon Oops, sorry, Monty was a douchebag who used the slow approach to combat... Alowing the Krauts to prepare the defenses. He almost cost us the Operation Husky had it not been for Patton's tenacious ability to push faster and harder into the Germans. Monty also failed in Market Garden, relying too heavily on airborne and not enough on a joint operations mission. The only thing he achieved was a footnote in the History of WW II, compared to Eisenhower, Patton, Bradley, Nimitz, etc.
@aFIRMmaybe The British defeated and humiliated the Italians and Germans in N.Africa long before the U.S had even arrived!! Battle of Al Alamein Monty 8th Army defeated the Axis and then humiliated Rommels counter attacks and the Axis are crushed with no fuel and resources. U.S arrived 1943, To help drive out the defeated Axis forces. U.S Forces came in the war when the Axis were losing! They have a habbit of joining wars and the very end.
@martynrobin121 Africa was lost to the Germans before they even started. Americans and British Reinforcements made the final push and ultimately turned the tide of the war there. Had it not been for the additional forces on the west side, Rommel could have eliminated the puny forces of General Montgomery with no problem. Also, the British were no longer the top. We the Americans, were. We had the troops, the supplies the weapons. All we had to do, was set them thru the baptism of fire.
@elizabethosler My Grandfarther fought in France,Belgium 1940, He was evacuated at Dunkirk and he stormed the beaches of the Normandy 1944, Sword beach and was injured in the Battle of Caen. He lost both his Brothers in Africa,Italy R.I.P, (British 8th Army) And the Americans may think they won the war, But they came when the Axis were certain to lose the war, Accept Japan. American only became a superpower during the war, Thanks to the rest of the war killing each other and giving U.S info.
@martynrobin121 God Bless your Grandfather for his service to his country and the world. But why the anti American sentiment? Prior to the United States direct involvment in the war the US provided every allied country with food, weapons, vehicles, aircraft, ships and all other equipment needed to fight this war. This support continued during the US's involvement even while the US was fighting a war on to fronts. It also contiued after. The US was the deciding factor in shortening the war.
@helodriver212 I just hate how Americans think they won world war 2, Its a joke! U.S had supplied resources,supplies to most of the world even before the war, They didnt do it for free it was about trade. Yes i agree it was vital. The British also fought a war on many fronts Europe,Africa,Middle-east,Asia,Pacific. When the British did ask for help 1940, U.S refused and they sent there WOMEN! They said they would sell the British more resources but not come into the war, They let the side down!
@martynrobin121 You are not from the UK, maybe an immigrant but your info is totally WRONG, try lend lease program, the USA was forced by internal forces to remain neutral, but lend the UK large amounts of material; all on credit.
Just like it send material to Russia in a later phase. Do some reading before you go any further.
@Tralgit I am from GREAT Britain, My Family dates back over a thousand years! The U.S was part of the League of Nations they should have been in the war from the start, The Axis Alliance was taking over most of the world.(As usual U.S sat back and done nothing!) The Lendlease started 1941, And it was a loan. Remember 1939-41 Russia supplied the Axis Alliance against the British,French. Untill Hitler turned on Stalin. When U.S arrived in the war, The Axis were been humiliated.
@martynrobin121 The U.S was never part of the League of Nations. And the Brits and French should have done something about Hitler and the Nazis during the 30's rather than trying to appease him. (Sold the Czechs down the river to keep yourselves safe! Real gutsy!) European cowardice and barbarism caused WWII, and yet you Eurotrash continually bitch about the U.S.
@mkeogh76 Czech was sold to Hitler to stop anouther war, The British wanted peace and done everything to stop war. Who declared war on Germany to protect Polish independance? Britain,France NOT THE U.S!! You say we caused WW2?? America was part of the Surrender treaty, Hitler never wanted a war with Britain or France the Soviets was his dream and goal. You call Europeans cowards maybe you should look at the Colonial history of the U.S and tell us about been cowards????
@Englander30 To add a little bit: I thought Nazi Germany never really declared war on the USA, they didn't want to have two major fronts. Of course, the Japanese spoiled the Nazi's plan which forced the USA into war with Germany, thankfully.
I say 'thankfully' because I live in Europe, would hate to imagine myself living under Nazi law, those creeps!
@martynrobin121 All Americans that understand history know that we did not win the war alone, and we don't pretend that we did. But Europeans take a tag line from a televison program and turn it into a reason to hate the US. The US could have intered the war sooner but for political reasons they didn't. When they did it did shorten the war. The lend lease program was not about trade it was to help our allies. Didn't US supplied Shermans give Monty the edge in armor over Rommel in North Africa?
@helodriver212 Yes i agree the Lendlease 1941 was vital for the British war effort. Britain was safe from invasion but far from winning the war(We couldnt win alone) And yes Sherman tanks did give Monty the edge in Egypt,Libya Also by 1943, Most of British Empire Forces Resources,Supplies came from America. I know Britain couldnt have Liberated W.Europe alone, Without the U.S Forces coming in the war, It would have been Russia who" liberated" Europe and a new dark age.
@martynrobin121 I really think that Russia won on the east front just because Germany retreated half of his forces from there when UK and US invaded Sicily. If there was no allied invasion in the west, Russia surely would have lost the war.
@chess012345 You say the Soviets would have lost the war without Western Front in Europe?? VERY WRONG! By 1943, After the battle of Kursk(Biggest Tank battles in History) The Soviets were on full advance on Berlin, They had countless millions men and thousands of T-34 tanks and were unstoppable. The Germans sent Kids,Old men and Forced concripts to fight the Allies in the west, And the odd division pulled back from the Eastern Front. How would Russia have lost the war without D-DAY?
@martynrobin121 What you see as American arrogance is really just national pride. Being a native of the UK you ought to have some yourself and understand that. Had we entered the war in 1940 you would still hate us I'm guessing? When the allies started the round the clock bombing of the German war industry the American Aircrews took the the deadlier day shift. Was the Nazi war machine so kaput by 1944 that the UK could have invaded france alone? And did we really let you down, honestly?
@helodriver212 I dont hate the U.S, I dont like how they think they "saved the world". And the R.A.F started to bomb Axis Industry and Cities 1940, They also done Day raids, But they proved ineffective and costly as the Americans found out later. The US started raids with R.A.F 1943. And NO Britain couldnt have liberated W.Europe alone, But they were winning in N.Africa alone. And Soviets in the East. And the Lendlease 1941 was VITAL, But 1940 was our darkest hour.
@helodriver212 I don't think there's any actual hate towards America. You have to understand that the UK suffered terribly in the war's early years, as did the rest of Europe. At the time, there was great resentment among British people towards the US, whom they saw as sitting on the fence, doing nothing to assist.
Moreover, these resentful feelings were passed down to my generation. They are made worse by the fact that there seem to be alot of Americans proclaiming "we won WW2".
@Englander30 It was a fact that NONE of teh Western Europe won WWII America won the main war of WWII but Soviet Union won the European WWII but Britain liberated Italy only..... Theres nothing great to say anything....
@MrLolx2u What are you talking about? What was the MAIN war, exactly? The UK beat the Afrika Corps in Africa single handed, with the US helping with the mopping up after the Afrika Corps was already in retreat.
You're dead wrong about the US winning the "main war", whatever that was. WW2 was won by the ALLIES, of which the US was just ONE PART.
I mean family
Legomaster2003 1 week ago
Army man are famile
Legomaster2003 1 week ago
the US and the UK are family. Like all Families they fight but they stand togeather
assym2006 3 weeks ago
Stupid Americans should have stayed home.
mensch454 1 month ago
The European Axis powers failed everything against the British-Soviets, Operation Sealion possible invasion of Britain could not even get past stage1, Battle of Britain-RAF Victory. The Axis failed attempts 2 invade& occupy British-Africa. Operation Barberossa, Ends in disaster with Moscow and the fact millions of Axis are been killed, Stalingrad major turning point.
martynrobin121 1 month ago
@martynrobin121 Well Sealion is Sealion, the name already favored the british.
As for British-Africa, Italy being a bunch of Pussy ass cowards who couldnt get anything done. Even Greece beat them. Probably using 300 spartans.
WorstCommenter2008 3 weeks ago
@WorstCommenter2008 It was impossible for the Axis to even attept an invasion of Britain. Also in North-Africa, both Germany-Italy failed everything, The same in the Mid-East and the in the Med. It was the same in the East, Barberossa ended in disaster with Moscow-Rostov everything went down hill after. British-Soviets were always going to win, Napolean done a better job.
martynrobin121 3 weeks ago
@martynrobin121 Under the leadership of hitler, even the worlds most mightiest armies combined vs some partisians would fail. Hitler had the leadership skills of a twelve year old who knows only one thing, best defence is a good offence.
WorstCommenter2008 3 weeks ago
@WorstCommenter2008 If your'e saying hitler was purely a defensive leader, you're wrong. The reason he is known for his defense is because well, let's think about how this realistically, the germans were being attacked by the rest of the WORLD how do you attack the world alone. You are forced to defend. The axis were fighting scores of NATIONS it is a sure sign of superiority when you can hold out 5 years, 100-1.
JesusofCalgary 1 week ago
Heil Hitler
kanger222 2 months ago
@kanger222 yeah heil faggot :)
hooha96 2 months ago 6
I read on a little known facts of WWII website the Americans were practicing landing on Utah beach in England before the invasion. The Germans attacked them with about 10 E-boats. They sunk 2 landing craft, and killed about 436 men. That was about 10 times the amount killed on Utah beach the day they landed, losing approx. 43 men. according to that site.
clintonearlwalker 2 months ago
@clintonearlwalker ...that was at a place called Slapton Sands near Dartmouth on the English Channel. "Operation Tiger" was a D Day rehearsal by the Americans. The total number of people lost was in fact higher. 749 soldiers and sailors were lost in a "hit and run" raid by the German torpedo boats. The Germans attacked at midnight, it was an opportunistic attack, they heard a lot of radio chatter and crossed the Channel from France very fast. The E-Boats travelled at 50mph.
jonnibegood1 2 months ago
@clintonearlwalker ...there's a memorial to these guys on the beach at Slapton, it's a Sherman Tank. The E-Boats sank two large Landing-Ships with lots of military vehicles and tanks on them. Years later a Sherman tank was found on the sea bed near the beach. It was dragged from the sea and up the beach with heavy chains. As it reached the beach the wheels and tracks began turning, a true testament to the US designers and engineers that built it.
jonnibegood1 2 months ago
@jonnibegood1 Thanx for that, I had absolutely no knowledge of this incident whatever until I seen it on that site. That site had all sorts of WW II events, (massacres, bombings, explosions etc.) that I had never heard of. Life must have been pretty cheap in those days. At least those guys have a memorial. I've spent many hours looking at pics and vids of WW II since I got a computer. I can understand why Eisenhower wrote to his wife, "God, I hate the Germans".
clintonearlwalker 2 months ago
@clintonearlwalker ...Yes I can understand his sentiment at that time. The weird thing is that the Germans were only our (the Brits) enemy during the two world wars due to the ego's of Hitler and the Kaiser. Historically and genetically speaking they are our cousins and allies. Before unification, the Germanic States helped us to "beat up" Napolean at Waterloo in 1815, and they've always been bloody handy in a fight. Life's circle has completed and they are allies and friends again. :)
jonnibegood1 2 months ago
@jonnibegood1 Friends and allies again? But for how long? Personally, I don't consider these historical events from long ago to be as significant as the type of government Germany seems to produce. (of course I'm not European). The Germans may have called their government National Socialism, when in fact it was iron clad dictatorship. How long before the next Hitler?
clintonearlwalker 2 months ago
@clintonearlwalker ...my concern, (as well as many other Europeans) is not so much Germany alone, but the whole EU setup at Brussels, new European-wide laws are being introduced by a bunch of unelected beaurocrats.. ...that's the thin end of the wedge, and a recipe for economic and political disaster. Fortunately UK didn't join the Euro (currency) and the present UK government is contesting and neutralising a lot of European law.
jonnibegood1 2 months ago
@jonnibegood1 I'm an Amercian and I can't even keep track of the criminal politicians we have in this country trying to start wars every single day. I'm pretty unfamiliar with the EU set up. I remember when the UK wouldn't give up the pound though. I've seen many comments on various vids of people in Europe talking about a unified Europe and "One Europe". It will probably cause problems down the road. However, I also remember East and West Germany and the flash point that was.
clintonearlwalker 2 months ago
@clintonearlwalker ...you're right. A lot of them are crooked.
There's a new English comedy spoof movie that's come out, it's called "The Hunt for Tony Blair". He's being chased by the cops because he had to be arrested for "war crimes" lol
The EU set-up is beaurocratic nonsense... It was meant to be a "European free trade zone" and used to be called "The Common Market"... ...but then the "euro" Civil Servants moved in, and it grew into an unelected "government"
jonnibegood1 2 months ago
@clintonearlwalker ...they recently asked us to convert our 20mph speed limits to 18.5mph... ...we told them to "get stuffed!"
jonnibegood1 2 months ago
@jonnibegood1 18.5 mph? That's like 6.3 milliliters per centimeter isn't it?
clintonearlwalker 2 months ago
@clintonearlwalker ...yes, very economical. I think it's designed to help pay off the Greek debt.
jonnibegood1 2 months ago
I read so many negative comments about the USA. I often wonder if any of those commenting have ever been to the USA, or where they get their opinion. America has flaws, but compared to the nine foreign countries (not 3rd world either) where I've lived, it's lightyears ahead. I've lived in countries in Europe and Asia.
gorwell97 3 months ago
battle ships or anything with a good long range gun should have been used to destroy the gun fortifications...... pour planing on the allies part....useless mass loss of life....
racecardriver467 3 months ago
Does enyone know what the intro -song is called?
AirborneSargent 3 months ago
Does any one know who made the soundtrack? is one of the best soundtracks i ever heard
rmlpaschoarelli 4 months ago
@rmlpaschoarelli I coulndt agree more! I'm also wondering about that, you know..
AirborneSargent 3 months ago
@rmlpaschoarelli It's a combination of different pieces. The only one I know specifically is "Fratres" by Arvo Part, which starts playing at 7:05.
battleax86 2 months ago
@battleax86 THANKS, THIS GUY IS BRILLIANT... ONE OF THE BEST SONGS ON SOUNDTRACK...
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MrFlohi 4 months ago in playlist D - Day to Berlin - The Battle for France
Im sorry but you rabbiting crazy propaganda. Not one single nation by itself could have won the war. Do you know how close the Soviet Union came to defeat? Pretty close. If it wasn't for the supply lines through Iran and across the Arctic seas bringing ammunition, tanks, aircraft, boots, trucks and oil then the Soviet Union would have run out of material to fight the war with. Her factories were destroyed, at the same time the West also relied on the huge sacrifice that the USSR made and with
ginjaninja1988 5 months ago
@ginjaninja1988 I am sorry but I still disagree.... the soviet Union rebuilt their factories Near the Oural.....
As I said, you don't win a war with material...... How can you reasonably think that the germans could have stayed in a country as huge as the USSR......................... Even.. with all the oil of the caucasus their line of supply would be lethal.... all the partisans in their back destroying their communications..YOU CANT WIN A WAR against millions of hating enemies !!
TheBenvoliomozart 5 months ago
@ginjaninja1988 remember the lessons of Vietnam, of Afghanistan, of IraQ,...The US had an overwhelming material advantage and look what happened to them !! THE USSR would have won the war WITHOUT the help of the US..It was just a matter of time !!...And of Space of course ! YOU CAN'T WIN AGAINST A DETERMINED POPULATION who is defending his territory.. and what a territory.. to think otherwise is nonsense !!
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e0o9kii 5 months ago
@TheBenvoliomozart I am from the Philippines and during the Philippine-American War (1899-1902) and the following Philippine insurgency (1899-1913) the US successfully, captured the Philippines, overthrew the Philippine government, CRUSHED THE PHILIPPINE INSURGENCY and made the Philippines a US COLONY. The US Army killed 1.5 million Filipinos as of result.
Don't get me wrong, I am still very pro-American but I just want to show that it is possible to crush an insurgency.
e0o9kii 5 months ago
@e0o9kii Your comment is very interesting !! But the conditions were radically different.. the philippines are islands..thus easy to blocade considering the gap between the Us fleet and the phillipines one....
The USSR is NOT an island..it is a continent !! No way to blokade.......in a middle of a sea (land) full of hidden enemies !! If the philippines had the geography of the USSR the US would have retreated with teir tails between their legs......
TheBenvoliomozart 4 months ago
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@TheBenvoliomozart It happened to the Philippines in that period what happened to England in 1066. When you invade an Island or an archipelago it is either an overwhelming victory (colonization) or a quick retreat !!
TheBenvoliomozart 4 months ago
@e0o9kii I don't understand why you are pro american... but you must have your reasons....
I am neither pro nor anti american....... as far as the american PEOPLE is concerned !! I rather speak of the leading people of this country..... and their present tendancy to not see their mistakes, their crimes and their defeats !!! I would say that I am anti american way of life.... whith their pseudo democracy and real financial plutocracy !!
TheBenvoliomozart 4 months ago
@TheBenvoliomozart 82% of the Filipino people are pro-American (according to BBC). There are 4,000,000+ (and 250,000 Americans living in Philippines) Filipinos living in the US, US helped us in the Philippine revolution for independence against Spain, US liberated us in WW2, US helps us today in counter-terrorism and natural disasters and the Philippines is very Americanized with US TV shows, movies, music, inventions, etc.
The Philippine-American War was just politics. Its forgiven already.
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TheBenvoliomozart 4 months ago
@ginjaninja1988 I will repeat again..the only nation who was able to defeat the germans was the USSR......
It is not their ability to fight which is at stake it is the shape and the inner power of the geography of their country ! It is the law of nature.. How can you imagine that the germans would be able to control such a country surrounded by millions of mortal enemies !! It is just plain foolish !! Hitler himself had this feeling !!
TheBenvoliomozart 5 months ago
@ginjaninja1988 In fact, even if the germans would have had the strength of several US, it would have happened to them in USSR what is happening to the US forces in Iraq.... hiding behind forteresses, spending billions...and waiting for................................retreat !!!!!!! It would have been even worse for the germans ...imposing a "Gau" with a gauleiter.......... which have been murdered soon after beeing in charge !!!
TheBenvoliomozart 5 months ago
@TheBenvoliomozart If the Germans had been murdering nutters obsessed with racial purity, killing jews and slavs at every opportunity then most of the populace of the Soviet Union would have continued to support the Germans as liberators from Stalin. Most Russians saw the Germans as liberators; just Nazi ideaology and SS Death Squads removed that support. Same with US forces in Iraql; they kill civilians so have lost their support. Thus they will loose as well.
ginjaninja1988 5 months ago
@ginjaninja1988 Excuse me, but your comment is ridiculous...........Since the very beginning, the germans wanted to conquer russia in order to have their 'vital space"...How could they invade a country and free russians at the same time...this is nonsense!! and this is why ,since the very beginning they were going to loose !! Remember Napoleon...... It is the reason why stalin in his 1941, speech when the Germans were near Moscow spoke of................kutuzov !!! German defeat was ineluctable
TheBenvoliomozart 5 months ago
@TheBenvoliomozart Yes I know that average German soldiers were involved in the mass murder; I never said they invaded for honest purposes but it is true that many Russians welcomed the Germans as liberators from the terrors of Stalinism. That was atleast until the Nazis proved to be just as brutal. Anyway this is a silly argument.
ginjaninja1988 5 months ago
@ginjaninja1988 and you are wrong concerning the culprits of massmurder in russia. The german soldiers obeyed the order to consider the russians a slave race and to kill ALL political commissioners...The german army killed million of Russians, not only the einzatgruppen from behind the lines ! They tried to support the Ukrainian movement but this was incompatible with the main mission : occupy and enslave Russia !!
TheBenvoliomozart 5 months ago
@TheBenvoliomozart Meant to say "if the Germans had not been murdering nutters"
ginjaninja1988 5 months ago
@pauldrew6 Yes but without the british he could have done nothing !! You just don't win a war with tanks and material......War is a matter of information..... And the british, thanks to their link with french resistance had plenty of information..... Without the help of the population you can't do anything and the americans would have retreat on Omaha and Utah and reembarked !!! They almost did on Omaha actually !! While the british were waiting for them at Juno and Sword !!
TheBenvoliomozart 5 months ago
@pauldrew6 OMG !! My dear dear Paul....... If there is a country who has the shortest memory..it is actually the US... Your memory is proportionnal to your History.............SHORT !!....The "Brits" , the french have a long long history and a lot to think of........They faced (particuliarly the french) many conflicts on ther soil............. They know MUCH BETTER than the U.S. citizens what war means..............You, U.S. citizens are stuck to one event in your flash history !
TheBenvoliomozart 5 months ago
I hate war and think that for the large part it is used to gain the interests of a few who use it to remove threats to their power and prosperity. I do think there is a place for war in defending Liberty and Freedom (atleast what is left of it). I do not believe in foreign intervention or Empire. Though ww2 while created in part by Western powers had to be fought. Germany and Japan were a threat to everyone. And yes I believe in Freedom...but not the BS fake freedom that politicans push.
ginjaninja1988 5 months ago
@ginjaninja1988 Your comments are very sensible.... and a lot to think of...............;
But I am very doubtul about war as a mean of resistance against evil.....
To people who think that, without american intervention, the Nazi would have won and french speak german.don(t know anything about history and psychology ! Remember the center of german opposition against Hitler was in Paris. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO EVEN THINK THAT THE GERMANS WOULD HAVE STAYED LONG IN FRANCE !!!
TheBenvoliomozart 5 months ago
It is interesting to question the reason of this operation.... It IS NOT DEFINITLY TO FREE EUROPE ! Wars have and always will be a matter of MONEY !! The argument of "freedom" is the eternal bullshit always claimed to encourage little boys to enlist as history told us on many occasions. I am amazed that despite all recent events they are still people who really believe the american intervention in Europe was to free people !!! School boys ! you deserve to believe this crap !!
TheBenvoliomozart 5 months ago
@TheBenvoliomozart And while Governments continue to push global war it is important that we do not forget the folly and evil done. But we must also remember those who died in such conflicts on both sides, and I am very much against the type of patriotism that the others who I were repremanding on this video were displaying. e.g. My country is better than yours and I m going to shit all over yours because at the end of the day we are all humans created equal and born free despite our differences
ginjaninja1988 5 months ago
@TheBenvoliomozart And at the end of the day without fighting Nazi Germany the world would be far worse off than it is today. Yet at the same time we probably would not have had to fight if ww1 didn't happen. But there is nothing wrong with celebrating the defeat of tyranny. And it is a shame that we ended the war with a new Empire and a Cold War instead of seeking the peace that many of those who fought and died for hoping that we would have a new world.
ginjaninja1988 5 months ago
@pauldrew6 And the message below goes to you also. Shut up with your moronic blabbering. Everyone here sees you for blundering fool you are. By the way blind Patriotism that takes its source from shitting on everyone else's nation is not flattering and is what landed the world in the mess of two world wars; check your attitude.
ginjaninja1988 5 months ago
French Resistance did a good Job too.
TheElephant79 6 months ago
Germans fucked up cause the East Front was fuckin em up, otherwise this wouldnt have been possible. Their bad.
TheElephant79 6 months ago
@pauldrew6 thus making you american only by birth, a true, rel american would be your natives, who i have the up most respect for .... you however ar a key example of generalised american rascism that proves you not as a country to be respected but one to fucking hate cause we gain the misconception that its filled with fucking retards like you!
bishopvsmonk 6 months ago
@pauldrew6 You Sir, are a highly uneducated, somewhat racist biggot, you are the reason the world hates your country, paitriotism is fine by me , how ever to disreguard all countries other then yours is plain ignorance . further more you just explained what you are. america is, like almost all civilised countries, a hybrid of diffrent nationaillties. with irish and welsh in you i would suggest your family grew from either immergrants, or coloinals,
bishopvsmonk 6 months ago
@pauldrew6
@Englander30
you two girls kiss and make up
clovenrick 6 months ago in playlist a
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Englander30 6 months ago
@Englander30
Listen, pauldrew6 is an idiot, i'm American and can admit as much. Just reading his jingoistic prattle, one can tell right away that the guy has never served in any of the armed forces, let alone fight out of a paper bag. Just know that most of us in the US admire and respect the British armed forces, and are ever thankful for our "special friendship".
Evocati2008 6 months ago
@Evocati2008 Hey, man. Thanks. I know that people like him are in a minority.
I have nothing but admiration and respect for all that the US did for the world, by becoming involved in the war. If my ranting makes me appear anti-US, then I apologise.
I know the guy's an idiot. He's just another member of the moron brigade who believe that their country is better than everyone else's because they were born in it.
There are people in the UK like that, too. I also despise them : D
Englander30 5 months ago
@Englander30 You sir are a gross moron of the most pompus sort. Your obvious ignorance in these matters of 'real' history is quite clear. Note before I say these things that I am not American and I am of British decent. Britian could not have won the war without the United States, nor could have the Soviet Union. In speaking of the war the entire free world owes that Greatest Generation of Americans whether G.I, Sailor, Marine, Airman, Coast Guard or a riveter in an aircraft factory, a farm hand
ginjaninja1988 5 months ago
@ginjaninja1988 I am sorry to tell you , you are very naive !!
The americans did not enter the war to gently free the poor defeated people of europe from german domination!! If it was so, they would have declare war in 1939...which they did'nt. They were forced by the events !! The increase power of Japan in the pacific and the danger of a german domination of the atlantic did it for them..... In fact the real war was the atlantic and pacific one... the control of free trading....MONEY !!
TheBenvoliomozart 5 months ago
@TheBenvoliomozart Hey, you know the best gun to by? A French Army gun, never been fired and only dropped once. You know where French soldiers get shot most? In the arm pit when they put up their hands in surrender. Get it? We should have let Hitler keep you.
Fuck, your people even joined the SS in WWII, right?
clovenrick 5 months ago in playlist WWII
@clovenrick What can I say to such childish comment !! Please, read a book..at least one .;on the subject...
Use your brain !! you are a man !! not a machine !! France has 2000 years of history, wars, invasions etc.... alas his soil is filled with blood. 1 million frenchmen and german died just at Verdun...because..nobody wanted to surrender..In one battle, french had more casualties than in all american history !! How can you even imagine that Hitler could have kept France ! It is impossible
TheBenvoliomozart 5 months ago
@TheBenvoliomozart your right, the germans and french bled each other white at verdun and the somme and passendale and the marne ( forgive misspelliings) and ypers etc but i think you lost all the good men in the first war no nerve left for the second
clovenrick 5 months ago
@clovenrick And BTW it is "to buy" and not "to by"...Go back to primary school, learn to write and read...then BUY or rent a history book on the matter and come back when you have finished your primary and secondary education ! For your information : Edward VIII, king of England had sympathies for Hitler and supported Mosley.
If you don't know who is Mosley...buy history for dummies..............
TheBenvoliomozart 5 months ago
@TheBenvoliomozart fuk yu yu frech fogot I hav forgotn mor histy than yul evr no moter fruker but i nevr clamd to be abl tooo tipe son o a bich. yae and eye no who mosly is he dat dmb as nazy wnna b and henry wernt king four long were he?
And yes, hitler could have kept you. How the fuck could you have rid yourselves of him? What magic trick would do what your army couldnt?
clovenrick 5 months ago
@clovenrick it's Edward not Henry...moron!!! go back to the nursery.... and play cubes...
Don't try even to make words...... Wait to be a child first !!!
TheBenvoliomozart 5 months ago
@TheBenvoliomozart why dont you answer the questions mother fucker?????? henry, edward who gives a fuck he gave up the crown for a whore and was banished to bermuda for all i know you have his name wrong i know the history i just dont give a flying fuck for a nazi wanna be traitor
clovenrick 5 months ago
@clovenrick ...good !! you know how to write the word "fuck" !! Now, it's time to try to make other words....
And if you are a good learning little boy, maybe you'll have a little soldier to play with !!!
TheBenvoliomozart 5 months ago
@TheBenvoliomozart Answer the question jackass. How would the french have broken the hold of the Germans?
Cant answer that one can you?
clovenrick 5 months ago
@ginjaninja1988 I disagree with you.......... The Soviet Union would have won the war WITH or WITHOUT the american help !!! Look at a map, remember "WAR and Peace" from Tolstoï....... The defeat of the germans in USSR was INELUCTABLE !! The only difference is that it would have take longer without the americans ..NOTHING ELSE !! To defeat the USSR it would have required the power of several United states ! The front line was gigantic ! the supplies were a lethal problem for the Wehrmacht
TheBenvoliomozart 5 months ago
@TheBenvoliomozart their help could not have won the war. But to minimalize the role of the US is silly and based on rivalry that is based on no facts. The American factories were the power behind every western nation and behind much of the Red Army. Lend Lease was vital to winning the war. America fought a war on four fronts against three enemies at the same time. But it was an allied effort that won the war; no induvidual nation. Everyone chipped in and fough hard. For example my nation
ginjaninja1988 5 months ago
@TheBenvoliomozart New Zealand put forward over 10% of our small population to fight. We lost huge numbers but yet without us the war in the Desert would have been far harder to win. The LRDG and the SAS would never have been created. Not to mention the huge amount of agricultural produce we sent to Great Britian which without she would have starved. So Again I say we all had to rely on one another to win, even if some of our respective efforts were smaller than others we all made sacrifices.
ginjaninja1988 5 months ago
@ginjaninja1988 I continue.... it was such a lethal problem that in one battle (Stalingrad) The Red army cutted the lines like we cut butter and surrendered the VI th german army.............. And I tell You, even if the germans had won in stalingrad... the front line would have grown larger and another Stalingrad would have occured ! It was a question of time... the americans were useless against geography and psychology
TheBenvoliomozart 5 months ago
@Englander30 on a Kansas wheat farm or a Scientist on the Manhattan Project their very freedom! Without American manpower, inovation, capital, guts and blood Britian the war would have been lost. For British Soldiers rode in American made Sherman Tanks to Germany and Soviet Soldiers drove Ford Trucks and marched in American made boots to Berlin. Yes the free world owes the people of the United States of that time very much indeed. That is of course not to say that the same gratitude is owed to
ginjaninja1988 5 months ago
@Englander30 millions of Britons, Russians, French, Chinese...and the list goes on. The point I am making is that we all did our part in the war and without each other none of us could have won; for it truly would have been divide and conquer. There is no agrument of any intellect or reason in either an American or a Briton boasting that their nation won the war despite the lack of effort on the other's part. It was a team effort and one would think that we would honour the sacrifice of millions
ginjaninja1988 5 months ago
@ginjaninja1988 Actually, I have been reading up on the history of WW2 for some years.
I was having a bad few days when I posted those comments. I agree, I did look like a pompous moron. I can assure you that, in reality, I'm neither of those things.
Englander30 5 months ago
@Englander30 by coming together and celebrating the Victory of our brave men and women who stood united to defeat the worst scourage the world has seen. That we would celebrate that some Liberty and Freedom was saved from the clutches of evil. That we would not only never forget the horror and evil of what we faced and what we had to do; but that we would remember the sacrifices all our peoples made. So I would ask you to have some respect and understanding.
ginjaninja1988 5 months ago
@ginjaninja1988 I do have respect and understanding. Very much so. Please don't interpret my words as anything else.
Englander30 5 months ago
@Englander30 Algud :) Sorry for being a little angry with my response. It was a bit over the top.
ginjaninja1988 5 months ago
@ginjaninja1988 : "by coming together and celebrating the Victory of our brave men..........." My God !!
Are you serious ?... Do you really believe in this old cold crap served for centuries to deceive people in order to risk their lives for others interests ?? There is no bravery, no courage in wars!! Only evil and foolish excuses made for little boys !!
TheBenvoliomozart 5 months ago
@pauldrew6 No, we aren't envious of the US. We think you're hilarious. Swaggering around the world, thinking you're Johnny Concrete, like you own the place. No, we're fuck!ng glad we're not you.
And kicked our arses in the revolutionary war??? Incorrect.
1: The US didn't EXIST in those days. You were just a rag-tag collection of colonies back then.
2: We were WINNING until France joined in to help you out.
3: We burned the Whitehouse to the ground in the war of 1812. Eat that.
Englander30 6 months ago
@pauldrew6 Engish women are beautiful. Again with the stereotypes. I'm getting a little bored of you, chum. Orthodontists? Again, you're thinking of the Royal family. Learn something about my country, you ignorant cowboy, and then I'll take you seriously.
Englander30 6 months ago
@pauldrew6 Typical ignorant yank. All you know about my country is cheap little stereotypes which you churn out like the dick you probably are.
1: It's "Kiss MY arse, chap"
2: That's an IRISH saying, idiot
3: I'm not a royalist. I don't say things like that.
4: We beat the IRA.
5: I'm ENGLISH, NOT British. Hence "ENGLANDER30" not "BRITISHER30" Learn the difference, you moron
Anything else?
Englander30 6 months ago
@pauldrew6 Sissy boy Hatton? He'd kick the sh!t out of you, chum.
Englander30 6 months ago
watch?v=KnYAC2_hnKg
''SAVING MY PRIVATES" (2011 - tom hanks)
a MUST see video. you need a good stomach - added yesterday
MrChatItOut 7 months ago
I hate people that do this but I guess I'm one of them, check out my video: watch?v=Ojh-wcS2t9s.
It's a little montage I put together of Battle of France footage. Tell me what you think it's my first video so I need your most brutal criticsm if I have any hope to improve. Again sorry for this awful self promotion but I don't know how else to do it.
hippotoast 7 months ago
GOD BLESS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! LAND THAT I LOVE! STAND BESIDE HER, AND GUIDE HER, THRU THE NIGHT WITH THE LIGHT FROM ABOVE!!!
hollywoodsaint57 7 months ago
of course the supreme commander had to be an american!!!
cuzcatlan36 7 months ago
I also would like to say that there's a distinct difference between Germans and Nazi. Germans are like anybody else, they're people, like you and me. But Nazi's are murderous creeps, and I would never recognize them as a culture of whatever sort. And I've heard people DO think it's a culture, which is disturbing in my opinion. It's like saying terrorism is a culture.
Just want to share my position on these issues. :)
UnforgettableRiver 7 months ago
@UnforgettableRiver Nazi's are no different then anyone else, don't believe the Jewish propaganda of WWII. There's no evidence of mass murder, and it would take 68 years to gas 6 million people
BladeofExcalibur 7 months ago
D-Day to Berlin? maybe to Torgau but not to Berlin. i wonder why in West-berlin we have an "War-Cemetery" (in English !) of course we have several russian and german war cemetery's but an US-cemetery? in Berlin? what the hell? the Us and other western Troops never fought in Berlin.
but is understand now why many people believe that the US free Ausschwitz and Sobibor.
CarstenOepping 8 months ago
I see the allies aswell as axis made the same mistakes,the distances were too great,the soldiers too little in number,failing logistics along with commanders at the front and rear not having a clue what was going on.
silver760 8 months ago
Did french fight in battle of Paris? LoL
WielkiWarchlak 8 months ago
its funny how the coward always lives to tell the story :)
15riccy 9 months ago
You know what. Instead of seeing who took the brunt of the war the most, we should honor the long dead, and those who survived to tell the story. And to continue the fight against liberalistic leftists who want to rewrite history in their own image, not in the image of the victorious and defeated dead.
colonelchris92 9 months ago
Rommel was an infantry officer who used tanks. much like Patton.. one of the problems the Brits had in N Africa was their commander Alexander was captured early on and it took time to find a replacement for him.
Justinbilings 10 months ago
You focus on Africa too much. It is called WORLD war II. The Americans,later than the quarreling europeans, eventually did join the war and look at all their accomplishments.Not including the pacific,They sucessfully coordinated D-Day, the largest amphibian operation known to mankind. They sucessfully held at the battle of the bulge and even pushed the hardened Wermacht back which started that mad dash to Berlin. So before you go bashing America, they were the deciding factor in both world wars.
aFIRMmaybe 10 months ago
@aFIRMmaybe The Americans were THE deciding factor? I think you've overlooked an insignificant little factor called the Soviet Union.
imcustomized 9 months ago
Word of advice, when you hear rumors of beinging home by christmas prepare for the worst because every time that phrase has been used in war, it has lead to disaster
snakes3425 10 months ago
Oops, Overlord and Market Garden are two diffrent things. Btw Eisenhower adjusted the Market Garden thing into a double agenda item for the US Army.When Monty and Patton had done what the intentions of Market Garden were, then there wouldnt have been so much pockets of resistence as Monty predicted. It was eisenhower whos to blame for the stagnation. Remember that Overlord was finished 10 days before schedule. That was monty's contribution and no one elses.
TheNovaAxon 11 months ago
@TheNovaAxon Monty should have never suggested such a thing in the first place. He knew Airborne forces were ill equipped for prolonged engagements. And the plans he made were scattered. The sole planning went to him. Eisenhower only approved of it because Monty promised the wars end by Christmas. The Americans didn't want to be in the Operation in the first place because they knew that it was suicide to go against such a strong force. Double that of mistaken intelligence.
colonelchris92 9 months ago
@TheNovaAxon Also, Overlord just barely succeeded, you seem to exclude American EFFORTS. Omaha AND Utah, both were almost turned back. While the French Canadians and Brits got the Easy beaches, little resistance. Possibly a few hundred, compared to the thousands lost by our Airborne and Army Units.
colonelchris92 9 months ago
The British, outnumbered 10 to 1 routed the Italians in North Africa. Something like 5000 British took 30,000 Italian Prisoners.
Xiolablu3 11 months ago
Why we humans are building weapons, why we cant life in a friendliy wise...its realy poor to fight against ourself...because in a wise we are all brothers and sisters, because we are one spezies
henning12548 1 year ago
I hate WORLD WAR II, i hate every WAR... I HATE EVERY COUNTRIES
CAN'T WE HUMAN LIVE NORMAL AND CARE UR OWN SHIT...
FFS... WWIII still could be possible if China or US dont build good relationship together. AND FOR people that keep say bad stuff abt other country coz OF WWII
Stop that... thats MOSTLY why people start WAR coz of HATE!!! STOP HATE!! FFS
AnimeGod1995 1 year ago
I wish the military commanders and politicians who went to war had to lead their men into battle IN PERSON...heck man.....we would then see a tremendous decline in the use of warfare, but as a last and final resort.......instead innocent people die for leaders who can't stomach the battle field themselves!
ThePainterr 1 year ago
@ThePainterr Agree. But don't forget they had to have the "men at the helm" i.e. the men who did the planning. That was hard enough.
elizabethosler 9 months ago
America attacked Normandy, the British captured and secured towns, like Caen, to take care of batteries and more that were aiming for Normany.
Italy was trying to gain some land, but it failed and Germany had to help them which made Hitler lose some troops, I believe he failed to take over England because of that.
However, Germany was, and maybe still is a powerful country, and thank god Russia distracted them, thanks to America, Britain, Russia and all countries helping.
oeshlama 1 year ago
You're all arguing about who should get the most credit for winning WWII...? That's just BRILLIANT people. Obviously that time has clouded the ugliness of war, and the peace that was made has been lost on you. So please, keep fighting and trying to take credit for something that happened before you were even born....
corebare 1 year ago
@corebare Coming from you? Were you born you arrogent prick? They argue out of a sense of pride. A sense of pride in their nations that gave up young men and resources to stop a tyrant that would of enslaved all of europe. So please shut your mouth.
aFIRMmaybe 10 months ago
Thanks for the upload!
gruntythe1andonly 1 year ago
The german armies in 1944 were nothing like the german armies that had took europe 1938-1940 MOST HAD DIED IN RUSSIAN FRONT AND NORTH AFRICA ITALY!! Hitlers focus was on russian front he didnt beleive the allies would attack(even know he was told they would) American forces were poorly trained and british allied forces were tired and many british armies had been destroyed they had been fighting far so long! RESPECT TO ALL THE SOLDIERS SHAME ON THERE GOVERMENTS!
martynrobin121 1 year ago
American forces poorly trained by mid 1944?
American, along with British and common wealth forces had already driven the Germans from North Africa and most of Italy by 1944 gaining invaluable experience that only the heat of combat can offer; by the same time that American Marine and Army divisions were invading the Philippines and the Mariana Islands and hence getting closer to the Japanese main islands in the Pacific by 1944 as well.
Eurofighter19 1 year ago
@Eurofighter19 The British were well trained and experianced and they were masters in desert warfare they turned the tide against rommel and axis in north africa! And The Allies Britain/America had greater numbers,resources,air-power in italy and it became a blood bath. And america was a very poor army compared to germany! Western front proves this kids as young as 13 holding the allies back for months. Germans were even better trained than the british.
martynrobin121 1 year ago
@martynrobin121 Not necessarily, If it weren't for the Americans in Africa, the British would have lost. But yes the British were good soldiers.
BandOfBrothers25 11 months ago
@BandOfBrothers25 How?? The British won the battle of Al Alamein ALONE! After that the Axis were on full retreat U.S forces came into the war in Africa when the british were on the advance. The British turned the tide both over the Air and Africa. They won the battle of britain and Africa. I dont see what U.S soldiers have to do with it?? They just helped drive ALL axis forces out of Africa when they were losing.
martynrobin121 11 months ago
@martynrobin121 Around the that time, the British were winning the war in Africa because Rommel was not receiving the necessary amount of supplies needed. When Hitler war going to grant his wish of more men and more fuel, it was too late due to the Americans joining, the Americans joining ensured a defeat. The British needed the Americans in order to claim ultimate victory. When Rommel did have supplies he chased the British all the way back. Fuel shortage and Americans meant defeat for Rommel.
BandOfBrothers25 11 months ago
@BandOfBrothers25 Rommel never had resources and supplies most of what he had was off captured british bases. The Resources that were coming through were been blown up by the R.A.F the british had broke there codes and knew where and when there supplies would be. The Italians na dgermans were also not as experiances in desert warfare as the british. And after Al Alamein the Axis had no chance of winning the british ahd the man power and resources the Axis failed.
martynrobin121 11 months ago
@BandOfBrothers25 And your just making excuses, If the British /French had know about blitzreig warfare they would have defeated the germans in north france 1940 but they didnt. Italians and Germans after Alamein was on full retreat they could do nothing more they had wasted there chance. And Americans were poor compared to the axis and british in africa they just didnt have the experiance and mind for desert warfare.
martynrobin121 11 months ago
@martynrobin121 But yet why did it take so long for the British to take out the Krauts? Because they were on their last legs too.
colonelchris92 9 months ago
@colonelchris92 Britain needed time to recover after the defeat at Norway,France 1940, However they still stopped an Axis invasion and humiliated the Luftwaffe in the battle of britain 1940, And by 1942 was winning in the west, And by 1943 the British and Americans were invading Italy,1944-D-Day-Berlin.
martynrobin121 9 months ago
@BandOfBrothers25 The British 8th army turned the tide in the war in north africa. Hitler couldnt send the resources and fuel as Russains advance started to slow and all supplies and men were needed in the eastern front.It was the italians who got the germans into North Africa and it proved to be a hudge mistake and waste of men and reources.
martynrobin121 11 months ago
@martynrobin121 I am completely aware of that. Mussolini wanted to prove to Hitler that his armies could do something. When he was talking to Hitler, he and his generals in a way insulted the Italians and said they weren't fit for action. And yes Hitler was more worried about the Eastern front so he sent all he could there in including Waffen SS units such as Das Reich,Totenkopf,and LSSAH.
BandOfBrothers25 11 months ago
@BandOfBrothers25 Yes Mussolini wanted to create an empire the nazis looked unstoppable after they defeated france and pushed the british out of Europe. With there blitzreig warfare. And yes hitler thought the italians were incapable of winning after there humiliation in N.Africa but Rommel actually had respect for the Italian soldiers. And Eastern Front 1942 was where hitlers focus on it wasnt going to plan there advance was been stopped and the weather was horrific it was turning nasty.
martynrobin121 11 months ago
@martynrobin121 I believe that had Hitler gave Rommel the supplies needed he could have pushed the British out of the Middle East. For Exp. Look at what Rommel was able to achieve with the little resources he had and somewhat small amount of man power, he pushed the British all the way back. That would also mean an exceptionally high amount of casualties. He needed more men and fuel.He said after Hitler promoting him "I would rather he had given me one more division"
BandOfBrothers25 11 months ago
@BandOfBrothers25 Yes i agree Rommel was agreat general he knew how to trap and get the british tanks and forces into ambushes. When Rommel arrived the Italians and Germans turned the tide in N.Africa the british were driven out of Libya on the borders of Egypt. Churchill ordered a last stand and no more retreat while the british were getting more tanks and air-craft and resources in. The Axis couldnt they were over stretched. If Rommel had the men and resources he could of done anything.
martynrobin121 11 months ago 2
@martynrobin121 I am just happy that there is someone that actually agrees with me. But for the Italians outnumbered the British in a lot of the battles fought in north Africa. They had little combat experience,no response to the terrain(little at that),lack of leadership,lack of amour,lack of ammunition,and a relatively small amour of soldiers. For what they had, they did their job the best they could. They have my respect.
BandOfBrothers25 11 months ago
@BandOfBrothers25 Everybody agrees Rommel was a great general and turned the tide in North Africa he had his chance but he did blow it. And the British turned the tide at the battle of Al Alamein with the Axis on full retreat. Then when the U.S arrived it was just the case of driving the Axis out once and for all. And the Italians had man-power thats all they had the british were just too good in tactics and experiance and leaders. It became a war with Rommel and Monty and Monty won.
martynrobin121 11 months ago
@martynrobin121 Agreed but no, one of the things Britain lacked in was leaders so i have no idea where you got that from.
BandOfBrothers25 11 months ago
@BandOfBrothers25 Are you joking?? British had Monty who was a great leader and they had resources and enigma. You will find it was the british had good leaders is they had lacked leaders they would have lost! You will find it was the Americans who lacked good leaders when they came to N.Africa they basically lacked everything.
martynrobin121 11 months ago
@martynrobin121 I did not say he was a bad leader, the lacked in leaders,for exp. Say he were to be KIA,there would be almost no one to take his place that would actually make a substantial difference in the African campaign. He was a great leader in Africa but not elsewhere. He is the reason Market Garden took place and was a failure.
BandOfBrothers25 11 months ago
@BandOfBrothers25 Monty was great leader in N.Africa without him the british wouldnt have turned the tide against the axis forces and the British and America wouldnt of driven the Axis out of N.Africa. Look at how many priosoners rommel took??
martynrobin121 11 months ago
@martynrobin121 Tell me something I dont know. But overall,he had a great victory in North Africa,not in France.
BandOfBrothers25 11 months ago
@BandOfBrothers25
Oops, Monty was the engineer of of Operation Overlord.
I think he did well. Fact.
TheNovaAxon 11 months ago
@TheNovaAxon Oops,Monty was the idiot whose campaign was hopeless in Market Garden.Fact
BandOfBrothers25 11 months ago
@TheNovaAxon Oops, sorry, Monty was a douchebag who used the slow approach to combat... Alowing the Krauts to prepare the defenses. He almost cost us the Operation Husky had it not been for Patton's tenacious ability to push faster and harder into the Germans. Monty also failed in Market Garden, relying too heavily on airborne and not enough on a joint operations mission. The only thing he achieved was a footnote in the History of WW II, compared to Eisenhower, Patton, Bradley, Nimitz, etc.
colonelchris92 9 months ago
@martynrobin121 Except manpower, resources and PATTON BITCH!
aFIRMmaybe 10 months ago
@aFIRMmaybe The British defeated and humiliated the Italians and Germans in N.Africa long before the U.S had even arrived!! Battle of Al Alamein Monty 8th Army defeated the Axis and then humiliated Rommels counter attacks and the Axis are crushed with no fuel and resources. U.S arrived 1943, To help drive out the defeated Axis forces. U.S Forces came in the war when the Axis were losing! They have a habbit of joining wars and the very end.
martynrobin121 10 months ago
@martynrobin121 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Right on.......
nikemac84 10 months ago
@martynrobin121 Africa was lost to the Germans before they even started. Americans and British Reinforcements made the final push and ultimately turned the tide of the war there. Had it not been for the additional forces on the west side, Rommel could have eliminated the puny forces of General Montgomery with no problem. Also, the British were no longer the top. We the Americans, were. We had the troops, the supplies the weapons. All we had to do, was set them thru the baptism of fire.
colonelchris92 9 months ago
@martynrobin121 Yes! you are so right. My Dad was in the El Alamein battle.
elizabethosler 9 months ago
@elizabethosler My Grandfarther fought in France,Belgium 1940, He was evacuated at Dunkirk and he stormed the beaches of the Normandy 1944, Sword beach and was injured in the Battle of Caen. He lost both his Brothers in Africa,Italy R.I.P, (British 8th Army) And the Americans may think they won the war, But they came when the Axis were certain to lose the war, Accept Japan. American only became a superpower during the war, Thanks to the rest of the war killing each other and giving U.S info.
martynrobin121 9 months ago
@martynrobin121 God Bless your Grandfather for his service to his country and the world. But why the anti American sentiment? Prior to the United States direct involvment in the war the US provided every allied country with food, weapons, vehicles, aircraft, ships and all other equipment needed to fight this war. This support continued during the US's involvement even while the US was fighting a war on to fronts. It also contiued after. The US was the deciding factor in shortening the war.
helodriver212 9 months ago
@helodriver212 I just hate how Americans think they won world war 2, Its a joke! U.S had supplied resources,supplies to most of the world even before the war, They didnt do it for free it was about trade. Yes i agree it was vital. The British also fought a war on many fronts Europe,Africa,Middle-east,Asia,Pacific. When the British did ask for help 1940, U.S refused and they sent there WOMEN! They said they would sell the British more resources but not come into the war, They let the side down!
martynrobin121 9 months ago
@martynrobin121 You are not from the UK, maybe an immigrant but your info is totally WRONG, try lend lease program, the USA was forced by internal forces to remain neutral, but lend the UK large amounts of material; all on credit.
Just like it send material to Russia in a later phase. Do some reading before you go any further.
Tralgit 8 months ago
@Tralgit I am from GREAT Britain, My Family dates back over a thousand years! The U.S was part of the League of Nations they should have been in the war from the start, The Axis Alliance was taking over most of the world.(As usual U.S sat back and done nothing!) The Lendlease started 1941, And it was a loan. Remember 1939-41 Russia supplied the Axis Alliance against the British,French. Untill Hitler turned on Stalin. When U.S arrived in the war, The Axis were been humiliated.
martynrobin121 8 months ago
@martynrobin121 The U.S was never part of the League of Nations. And the Brits and French should have done something about Hitler and the Nazis during the 30's rather than trying to appease him. (Sold the Czechs down the river to keep yourselves safe! Real gutsy!) European cowardice and barbarism caused WWII, and yet you Eurotrash continually bitch about the U.S.
mkeogh76 8 months ago
@mkeogh76 Czech was sold to Hitler to stop anouther war, The British wanted peace and done everything to stop war. Who declared war on Germany to protect Polish independance? Britain,France NOT THE U.S!! You say we caused WW2?? America was part of the Surrender treaty, Hitler never wanted a war with Britain or France the Soviets was his dream and goal. You call Europeans cowards maybe you should look at the Colonial history of the U.S and tell us about been cowards????
martynrobin121 8 months ago
@mkeogh76 European cowrdice? WW2 in Europe began in 1939, pal, not 1942 when Germany declared war on the US!
We were in it from start to finish, unlike the US who decided to get involved when it suited them. Just like WW1.
Englander30 8 months ago
@Englander30 To add a little bit: I thought Nazi Germany never really declared war on the USA, they didn't want to have two major fronts. Of course, the Japanese spoiled the Nazi's plan which forced the USA into war with Germany, thankfully.
I say 'thankfully' because I live in Europe, would hate to imagine myself living under Nazi law, those creeps!
UnforgettableRiver 7 months ago
@martynrobin121 All Americans that understand history know that we did not win the war alone, and we don't pretend that we did. But Europeans take a tag line from a televison program and turn it into a reason to hate the US. The US could have intered the war sooner but for political reasons they didn't. When they did it did shorten the war. The lend lease program was not about trade it was to help our allies. Didn't US supplied Shermans give Monty the edge in armor over Rommel in North Africa?
helodriver212 8 months ago
@helodriver212 Yes i agree the Lendlease 1941 was vital for the British war effort. Britain was safe from invasion but far from winning the war(We couldnt win alone) And yes Sherman tanks did give Monty the edge in Egypt,Libya Also by 1943, Most of British Empire Forces Resources,Supplies came from America. I know Britain couldnt have Liberated W.Europe alone, Without the U.S Forces coming in the war, It would have been Russia who" liberated" Europe and a new dark age.
martynrobin121 8 months ago
@martynrobin121 I really think that Russia won on the east front just because Germany retreated half of his forces from there when UK and US invaded Sicily. If there was no allied invasion in the west, Russia surely would have lost the war.
chess012345 8 months ago
@chess012345 You say the Soviets would have lost the war without Western Front in Europe?? VERY WRONG! By 1943, After the battle of Kursk(Biggest Tank battles in History) The Soviets were on full advance on Berlin, They had countless millions men and thousands of T-34 tanks and were unstoppable. The Germans sent Kids,Old men and Forced concripts to fight the Allies in the west, And the odd division pulled back from the Eastern Front. How would Russia have lost the war without D-DAY?
martynrobin121 8 months ago
@martynrobin121 What you see as American arrogance is really just national pride. Being a native of the UK you ought to have some yourself and understand that. Had we entered the war in 1940 you would still hate us I'm guessing? When the allies started the round the clock bombing of the German war industry the American Aircrews took the the deadlier day shift. Was the Nazi war machine so kaput by 1944 that the UK could have invaded france alone? And did we really let you down, honestly?
helodriver212 8 months ago
@helodriver212 I dont hate the U.S, I dont like how they think they "saved the world". And the R.A.F started to bomb Axis Industry and Cities 1940, They also done Day raids, But they proved ineffective and costly as the Americans found out later. The US started raids with R.A.F 1943. And NO Britain couldnt have liberated W.Europe alone, But they were winning in N.Africa alone. And Soviets in the East. And the Lendlease 1941 was VITAL, But 1940 was our darkest hour.
martynrobin121 8 months ago
@helodriver212 national pride and patriotism are dumb
chess012345 8 months ago
@helodriver212 I don't think there's any actual hate towards America. You have to understand that the UK suffered terribly in the war's early years, as did the rest of Europe. At the time, there was great resentment among British people towards the US, whom they saw as sitting on the fence, doing nothing to assist.
Moreover, these resentful feelings were passed down to my generation. They are made worse by the fact that there seem to be alot of Americans proclaiming "we won WW2".
Englander30 7 months ago
@Englander30 It was a fact that NONE of teh Western Europe won WWII America won the main war of WWII but Soviet Union won the European WWII but Britain liberated Italy only..... Theres nothing great to say anything....
MrLolx2u 7 months ago
@MrLolx2u What are you talking about? What was the MAIN war, exactly? The UK beat the Afrika Corps in Africa single handed, with the US helping with the mopping up after the Afrika Corps was already in retreat.
You're dead wrong about the US winning the "main war", whatever that was. WW2 was won by the ALLIES, of which the US was just ONE PART.
Englander30 7 months ago
@Englander30