2-5-1 (Two Five One) in C Major (Super Samples version) - DP's Backing Tracks

[ryanneglect]

also guys, if you're using A minor pentatonic on top of this progression, try A flat minor pentatonic over the G7!! so juicy! i'm still new to jazz minor (melodic minor) and discovering all these new sounds is amazing :)

[TheBenster200]

hehe, just realized that i played A aeolian in the 4 position :)

[TheBenster200]

I played a C aeolian with some extra notes ( i found some notes that sounded good) can anybody tell why this worked? i mean there´s no c minor and played natural minor?

[ryanneglect]

@TheBenster200 i think you may have been playing the C aeolian when the G7 landed and that's why some notes seemed to work. this is because some of those notes (like the flattened 3rd..Eb) belong to G# melodic minor, which works so well over this altered G7 dominant chord. i think this is what you were hearing, i hope this makes sense!

[ryanneglect]

so, so, so, so good. been looking for a mellow 2-5-1 forever!!! thank you!

[SpeedPickers]

@ryanneglect Thanks for your comment!

[antovitie]

thanks!



[rchave]

Holy fuck, i wouldn't mind being able to use some jazz techniques, but if i end up talking like these comments i'll shoot myself.

[ijustwanttogeton]

D Dorian would be the classic, but you can sub the dom 5th(G7) for a tritone to make it Db7...Gives it a lovely chromatic run down on the bass

[geia4]

also what scales could we use?

[billface]

@geia4 2-5-1 are the chords being used. We're in the Key of C major, So Chord 1 is C Major, Chord 2 is Dm and 5 is G Dominant. They're all diatonic in the key of C major, so you can use D dorian, G Mixo, E Phygian ect, just try and imply those chords with arpeggios and you'll sound alot more Jazz.

[SpeedPickers]

@billface thanks Ryan...

[guitar789]

@billface No absolutely not. All you are suggesting is playing C Major Scale over the Jamtrack which is in key C. Thats what each jazz player wants to avoid for any dominant and minor chord. To sound like jazz, play G# melodic minor on the G7 chord for instance or G whole tone scale, then try C major Arpeggio with a few cromatics on the Cmajor, start with a Dm major7 arpeggio on Dm7 which you resolve into a Dm7 Arpeggio before changing to the second chord. Add a swing feel if you want.

[billface]

@guitar789 Well yeah, you can do anything you like over the change. I was just generalising, because if someone doesn't know how to play over the change, then throwing loads of 'complex' concepts like melodic minor/whole tone would just confuse them further. We could spend years discussing what you could play over a this track

[guitar789]

@billface if u want it to sound like jazz - and thats what you suggested - its better to go with sth else than the key of the progression, i mean you cab play C major over a rock piece, a blues, a ballad, heavy metal, pop, funk and so on so its not jazz specific, I gave an example of jazz scales for this 2-5-1 below and everyone is free to try it out, enjoy! And yes, its legitim to play just one major scale over a 2-5-1, its just not common under jazz players.

[wawicho]

@guitar789 Why I can play a G# melodic minor in the G7 chord??

[guitar789]

@wawicho check out Emily Remler, thats a system she made up and it works because g# melodic minor contains all the jazz notes required. it's a different approach than in standard jazz theory though.

[geia4]

what does the 2-5-1 mean?

in the key of major 7th (which is the first)

dm7 the second ?

and g7 the fifth?