These schools are a joke and a rip off. I was at Casa by the Sea from beginning of '04 til it was shut down in Sept '04(which was shown in video). It has been 6 years since i've been "out of the program" and i stil talk about how miserable it was not having any water to shower with or throwing your T.P. in trash cans and being stripped searched, etc. RIP OFF for my parents $.They are still paying off the loans! DO NOT SEND YOUR KIDS TO ANY OF THEIR SCHOOLS!
This reminds me of Green Chimneys RTC Brewster NY. The academics is the same at Green Chimneys. Disciple is just another way to say punishiment there and it sounds just like Green Chimneys. Many kids had dislocations; if you wrote letters out you can't seal them so staff can read them. Calls are monitored. WWASP institutions are dangerous & don't send your kids out of the country. Rigorous and strong are words you beware of. Emphasis on discipline and saying it's strong is a warning.
Tips for victims of abuse on pursuing compensation:-
U.K victims of abuse at WWASPS schools or foreign schools might succeed in pursuing compensation at Leigh Day Solicitors, or Irwin Mitchell Solicitors. Jordans Solicitors also specialize in U.K abuse cases.
You might be eligible for legal aid funding and if you win your case you don't pay anything. If you lose however you might have to pay for the court fees of the other side...Government don't help victims of abuse enough in my opinion
@KittyKraz13 I wouldn't say that. Institutional abuse is FAR from having been addressed. Notice how "shock therapy" is seen as nothing more than a plot device for horror movies, instead of being seen as a horrendous savage injustice committed on innocent teens in the 60's and 70's and viewed with the same seriousness that we use to speak of the Holocaust or slavery.
Closing them isn't enough. The people in charge must all be imprisoned. And plenty are still open.
I am a survivor of Cross Creek Manor, a WWASP facility. It has been 10 years since I graduated and I still suffer from PTSD. I urge parents to find alternative means to address the difficulties they are trying to surmount by sending their child away.
This is why I'm always happy when cops get killed. The ENTIRE government allows this so the ENTIRE government is guilty. Just wanna kill 'em all. Love cops dying. Rape their wives for loving them too. Kill their kids for having a nice life and being taught by daddy to hate on poor kids or kids who were homeless in America and imprisoned for not having any parents even though they coulda survived homeless. We just need a terror campaign.
You don't know the fucking truth. If Muslim terrorists did to our children what foster care facilities do to them, it would be okay to say the same things about them. But when the government does those things we're supposed to shrug our shoulders and say "the system isn't perfect"? You might not realize how organized of a system of abuse this is.
@toddissofullysick I'm so tired of this stupid fucking argument dude, every time I defeat it another one of you cop apologist comes out of the woodwork. I keep trying to explain to you people: ITS NOT THE BAD COPS THAT ARE THE PROBLEM. ITS THE OTHER COPS WHO REFUSE TO ARREST THOSE BAD COPS.
ITS THE JUDGES WHO REFUSE TO PROSECUTE THOSE COPS. THIS IS NOT "A BAD COP" THIS IS AN ENTIRE SYSTEM DESIGNED TO TORTURE CHILDREN AND ALLOW THE PERPETRATORS TO GET AWAY WITH IT. Still don't understand?
@toddissofullysick You're just another mainstream sheeple repeating the same losing argument that so many others do. And our kind, the people who actually give a flying fuck about the fact that children are being tortured, WILL have our way at some point. Its just that people like you are holding us back in the middle ages with your complacency and incorrect/unrelated "some cops are good so lets let the bad cops get off scot free every time" rhetoric
@toddissofullysick P.S. saying that cops who break the law should be treated like any other criminal is NOT saying "All cops are bad". You're just making that one up because you have some irrational desire to defend a government that willingly and openly tortures children. WHY you feel this way I do not understand.
@KingRadbadical1988 I quote "This is why I'm always happy when cops get killed. The ENTIRE government allows this so the ENTIRE government is guilty. Just wanna kill 'em all. Love cops dying. "
@toddissofullysick Until some of those "good cops" start arresting the bad ones, yes! I take back the rape/killing kids thing, but I'm no more of a sicko than your average coplover! Coplovers are not human, seeing the hatred and ridicule of human beings they dish out, their judgementalness, I would say they're no better than the people they love to judge, the "scumbags". Everyone is a "scumbag" to them. They should look in the mirror before calling everyone else a "criminal".
Their judgments are based merely off of the fact that someone is having an interaction with a police officer. A police officer could be having a conversation with some random stranger about the weather and one of these coplover rednecks will mutter under their breath "Stupid fucking whore slut bitch, I'll bet she's getting arrested for being a drug dealer, I hope those brave men rape that dumb ugly slut in front of her children
WWASPS are fucking mercenary camps that profit off torturing and brainwashing unjustly imprisoned children. I still don't see how these places are allowed to exist, and I'm not just talking about government regulations. Kids need to riot, or something, before they get killed in these places!
I was at SCL for 7 months. My parents had no idea. They feel terrible now, they apologize to me, they really didn't know. It was marketed as an elite boarding school, a therapudic environment, almost like going to summer camp. That couldn't be farther from the truth.
LOL I remember CATs, the rule system. You would get punished for looking at the opposite sex.
@RogueAdamantiumQueen All we have to do is track them down and sodomize them with tire irons, how hard can it be? Just wait outside whatever institution they work at and wait till its a dark place then get a set together to surround them, etc.
@RogueAdamantiumQueen I HOPE someone is with me on this. One day I want to be killed by cops after fighting for what's right. I believe in the possibility of afterlife and that revenge is justice. I am so angry that they would hurt you and maybe some day you can point out the faces of the people who worked at the place you were and we can send a message.
First... narvin dictated alot of the abuse in Costa rica, His wife was a very nice lady though. I hope they do burn...I was In Costa Rica for 15.5 months I Was there for the riot, and the taping of that.
Ha, i was at Majestic Ranch in Randolph Utah ( owned by the brother in law of the founder of wwasp) kids who were prescribed medicine were made to take it
Makes me think that most of the staff are either former jailbirds who have no experience in the field of psychology or childcare or psychopaths who hate teenagers or saw one too many Friday the 13th movies. I hope each and every one of them burns and rots in the most vile level of Hell, their flesh and muscle melting off of their bones, feeling the pain of the tens of thousands of tortured souls they helped maim.
@theperfectone121212 That's what I want to do. I want a bunch of people to start sodomizing institutional-workers with tire irons until this shit stops.
All I can say about revolution is "don't let the communists, Muslims, or anyone else take over afterwards". Same goes for the Crips and Bloods. Other than that? Let government collapse and let righteous VENGEANCE take over.
Couldnt agree more, I was at CSA the one is south Carolina and it was just like what they say, acted all great but really sucked. POH wasnt like that when i went there but i dont dout it at all, But narven is a great guy and i dont really think he knows it goes on.
he had his hand smashed with a coconut on a rock by the guards. it was never treated, and his ring and pinkie on his right hand are half the length of the uninjured hand (looks pretty nasty).
anyone familiar with WWASP will know that the samoa facility was "shut down"
what ACTUALLY happened was that all of the staff fled the island and left the kids behind.
my friend says that this was the worst part. he believed he was going to die.
I cant remember if he told me that it was eventully a WWASP ship, a unaffiliated commercial ship, or government ship that got them off the island.
Im not trying to claim that these people left the kid to die. I am trying to point out that the kids KNEW that they were being illegally mistreated, and that when all of the staff mysteriously left, that it would have SEEMED like they were leaving them to die, especially to someone who endured that abuse.
I was at Casa by the Sea and Pacific Veiw for a 13 months. 2 months spent at Casa then left to the 18 and up program Pacific Veiw. I was there when they shut down Casa and Pacific Veiw. It happen on the day of PC-1. I remember seeing Parents shitting outside the day when the program was shut down.
This kind of stuff makes me so angry I could kill someone. The media should stop trying to get us to care about Michael Jackson's death and Britney Spears and expose stuff that actually matters.
I went to one of these schools called Casa by the sea. It was the worst experience of my life and I hope no one has to go through what me and my friends there went through. If you can help shut down wwasps please do. I know it can be tough to talk about what happened to you but the world needs to hear it!!!!
I am in the process of writing a book about wwasps based on my own experience and that of other former detainees. Please send me some info about your experiences if you feel so inclined.
I was in Spring Creek lodge in 1998 before anybody even really knew what was going on in these places. It was a nightmare and I learned a lot about cruelty and the dark side of the human condition. These prisons should be burned with the staff inside.
Im an Elan survivor motherfuckers....what do you know bout hard schools ha?? what do you know bout GMS....scrubbing toilets...boxing rings...hog tying students....what do you know?
Damn... i was at Casa by the Sea from jan 03 to may 04... that places was hell on earth. To this day my dad doesnt like to talk about the program. He feels so guilty for sending me. I cant believe what a mask they put on... let me tell you... they tricked shitloads of people. assholes...
CSA and Pillars of Hope (used to be dundee). these programs are discusting. i was kidnapped in the middle of the night and sent there when i was 16. i was there for 16 months. im 20 now and to this day my parents do not beleive the truth about these horrible places.
I was in one of these brainwashing camps when I was 14. It was a Straight Inc. spin-off. The psychological abuse and torture was deplorable. I can't believe these places haven't been shut down for human rights violations. Where is the mass media? Call your local news outlet and ask them why they don't investigate and prosecute those who did what they did to me and so many others.
i went to two of these programs. Cross Creek in La Verkin, Utah and then when they kicked me out they sent me to Tranquility Bay in St.Elizabeth, Jamaica. IT WAS FUCKING HELL AND THEY DO ABUSE YOU AND LIE TO PARENTS AND TO THE EMBASSY
ur not alone, they sent me there 2. i was there in jamaica for a year. we had 2 riots that they covered up, we killed some of there staff that they covered up, students committed suicide there and attempted it all the time. the proudest moments of my life were killing those fucking bastards.
teressa dropped me to level 1 from 4 because I talked to long to a girl upper level at one of those activities. Man I hated those 2 years. U know I came out of there way worse than i went in with new worse problems. Not much anyone can do bout it now though.
The were all hell. I went to 3 different schools before i graduated, and they were all just as bad as the others, does anybody know where i can find more videos on Casa By The Sea?
i thought my friend was lying, he was in the mexico camp- they rioted afterwards and destroyed everything in site."
What a fucking AWESOME "friend" you are, you piece of sh*t. All of *US*, WE have had to deal with people like you. I hope he had the sense to ditch you. Thanks for your support. I'm sure it helped him deal with his past.
people ALWAYS think we are lying... untill they see it for themselves or go themselves. When are people going to understand that when HUNDREDS of cases from VARIOUS places both IN and OUT of the U.S. say the same damn thing despite NEVER meeting one another that there JUST might be something going on?
Fucking revolting. You know what, if you can't control your teen kids, leave them the fuck alone. The role of parents is to help pick up the pieces when things go wrong, not to inhibit their individual decision making and indoctrinate them into a world that might not be theirs.
THERE HAVE BEEN ENOUGH ALLEGATIONS!!! THESE SCUMBAGS ARE ABUSERS! i WAS IN PARADISE COVE WAS BEATEN WAS HELD AFTER MY 18 BDAY! hostage! BEATEN FOR TRYING TO SEND A LETTER TO THE EMBASSY. they deserve to rot in hell!!!
I couldn't agree more. I was researching the WWASP places for my school project. Paradise Cove sounded like one of the worst of all of them. It made me sick, and I didn't even attend the program.
Do not worry. They WILL rot and BUUUUURRRN in hell. The torture they put on all those defenseless children is nothing compared to what they will be rewarded with in the afterlife.
i was at spring creek for 14 months. what a nightmare, i wish they'd just shut down all of them. it's not right how they can just come and kidnap kids against their will just because they're minors and their parents said so.
i also spoke to perspective parents as a level 5 after being there for 18 months. If i told the truth to those parents, i would never go home!!!!!!!!!!!!
i was sent to casa in 03' and graduated in 04. to this day my prents do not believe me. They refuse to even do research or look at vids like this. I would agree with most survivors that i have developed anxiety and depression, as well as insomnia. Not to mention i have virtually no relationship with my parents.
i attended Carolina Springs Academy. I can tell you one reason why parents buy into these places beeing so great. When students like myself gave tours we had to sell them on the school telling them how great it was no matter how we really felt.
Did it help you, I have 4 kids- 21, 20, 16, & 12. The 20 yr. old always comes home drunk if were lucky enough she does come home, my 16 year old was a victim of bullying cuz he's been homeschooling since Apr./2005, but he has become more aggressive, like a hermit, feels unwanted and now he's cutting himself, he also gets in my face cusses @ me and hits me really hard, I am his mother...
no it didnt help me at all 3 months after i was pulled from the program i was placed in a group home. the group home helped me more in the 6months that i was there than CSA ever could. maybe you reasearch group homes. they are alot better you are able to see your children and it is a more home enviroment. i went to a baptist childrens home here in NC. i actually miss it sometimes.
I am so sorry that you had to go through this and even be forced to lie. Thank-you for responding back & for your HONESTY. How old were you when all this happen? How old are u now? Do you feel like a changed person? Did it truly help in the long run? Was it worth it & do you hate your parents for doing this to you? Did things just get worst? Please respond all my questions. From a desperate mom. Thanks again.
i was 14 when i went in and 16 when i came out. i am almost 21 now. i dont hate my family for sending me there. they, like most parents, had no idea what really went on. i have benefited from some of the experiences from the program but it has taken a long time to put those few things to use. things def. got worse after the program. it only took 2 days and i was right back at square one.
Thank-you for responding, so you mean to tell me that in "your case" it didnot do you any good.? That's Okay, every case is different. I have a 21 yrs old, a 2o yr. old & 16 & 12. Thanks again.
I had to hurry writing back on my comment cuz I was running out of battery but I meant to say, that LucilleBallnumber1 & omy/lucy is the same person. And I also wanted to say like I have said before, EVERYONE STRUGGLES W/ THIER OWN DEMONS, EVERYDAY! It's like being a drug addict, if you don't stick to the program & follow the steps, you will relaspe. By the way I am a recovering addict, who just relaspse on painkillers because the dr. sent them & I was diagnosed w/ arthritis.
part 3 besides the fact that I am really going through pain, it almost sounds like the "PERFECT EXCUSE", besides the fact that I been suffering from severe depression for as long as I can remember, like everyone else, my life hasn't been exactly a piece of cake.
So Don't worry girlfriend, I could be your mom I'm 41 w/ four kids. I told you thier ages. I don't mean to sound nosy, & you don't have to tell me if you donot want to, but what was really going on in yur young life that your parents didnot jnow about. And What do you mean by things getting worst right after. Can you talk to me?
Well I hope to hear from you soon, Maybe one day we will all get through this painful life we live in. Maybe if your interested we can share our stories. Remember I have a 16 yr. old son, who started becoming very violent after being bullied from school, and he started showing the red flags @ 14. He kept it quiet for a ver long time before that to.
Sorry for writing so much, My 21 yr. old doesn't give me any trouble, as a matter of fact she acts like my mom, My 20 yr. old loves to to clubling & get drunk all the time on weekends, she has even totaled her new car. She's completely different from my first daughter, and my 12 year old daughter is witnesing a very unhealthy environment, & is learning too much too fast. Three girls & one boy. Talk to you later I hope.
If it gets too bad call the cops on them. Contrary to conventional opinion, these places can be much worse than jail. At least in jail you have some rights.
And then there are the cult seminars. Parent seminars for Cross Creek were developed by David Gilcrease of Resource Realizations- a former Lifespring trainer. Lifespring is commonly categorized as a cult. Parents and students are persuaded to suspend thier core values, confess thier sins, and to "Trust the program". For an informative video- search utube "How to be a cult leader"
Why are parents buying into this? Deceptive marketing? Teenhelp (AZTeenhelp, CATeenhelp, et al)has saturated the internet market acting as an "independent referral agency" yet the only programs they refer to are WWASP and they have no formal training. Teenhelp shows up on WWASP contracts and most sources agree Teenhelp is under the WWASP blanket. Add to this an active multilevel marketing type parent referral program...
While the physical abuse kids suffered at TB, High Impact and the overseas facilities is shocking... the mental abuse and mind control suffered at Cross Creek and all WWASPs is damaging long term.
Add to this that "students" with mental illnesses/disabilities such as depression, ADHD, Bipolar, ODD, and anorexia/bulimia, etc.are lumped in with "naughty" teenagers, juvenile offenders abuse survivors, and addicts and treated to the same "therapy" unilaterally...
I was at both Tranquility Bay and Cross Creek, and while Cross Creek wasn't all that bad for the most part, physical abuse, illegal activities, and lies being told to my parents were the reasons I finally got out of TB, thank god.
I'm doing a report on one of these places for school. It's a persuasive essay, and my argument is that the facility Tranquility Bay should be shut down. This TV report helped me a lot.
I spent a year at Ivy Ridge in New York (another "school" apart of WWASP programs) , i hope people watch this and become aware of whats happening, its not only places in other countries, these places are in our own backyards.
Yes they are! Good Point. We are trying to spread the word. Many people also don't realize that a majority of these programs are run by people who are heavily involved in the Morman Church. Perhaps if this was made know to parents up front, they might think twice about using one of these schools. Of course, for others, this fact wouldn't matter...
OMG!!! This sounds liek a school I went to! I dono if they actually could be brought up on abuse charges, but academics as a joke, holding kids on teh ground, having false tors for parents, small cell like detention rooms, OMG!!!
Yeah, I'm sure it is just like the school you went to, there are many of them out there. The problem with trying to sue is (1) statute of limitations tend to be very short and (2)the companies ('schools') generally have a whole lot more money and time to fight than individuals.
Unfortunately, we've been trying to do something for years, but we are up against multi-billion dollar corporations with hugely influential political ties.
i was at casa by the sea and graduated the program in 99. i was in samoa at paradise cove before that. i was in that shit from 97 to 99. samoa was the worst. casa was a vacation. as long as u did what u were told u were straight. i was on the upper levels tho.
Dude. I was fucking THERE at the one in Mexico (not casa by the sea, but the one they show about a minute into it that was shut down in late 01). "High Impact" was shut down on december 5th and I was back in Utah at another program by December 6th. that's a trip to see it again after all these years.
High Impact, in my opinion, was the worst of all places. Kids chained up in cages like animals in very, very high temperatures, it was as bad as Guantanamo Bay. I'm glad you survived, too bad you had to be transferred to another program in Utah, which one was it?
I went back to cross creek manor where I had previously spent 5 or so days before i attempted to run away, which is what landed me in high impact in the first place lol. i can't even tell you how wonderful cross creek seemed after that.
horrible, I can't believe this. No child deserves this, no matter what they've been doing. They need therapy, not this kind of treatment. And at Harvard prices! I'm going to be sick.
Anyone seen the movie sleepers lol id love to see that happen to these guys
rulesforrebels 1 week ago
These schools are a joke and a rip off. I was at Casa by the Sea from beginning of '04 til it was shut down in Sept '04(which was shown in video). It has been 6 years since i've been "out of the program" and i stil talk about how miserable it was not having any water to shower with or throwing your T.P. in trash cans and being stripped searched, etc. RIP OFF for my parents $.They are still paying off the loans! DO NOT SEND YOUR KIDS TO ANY OF THEIR SCHOOLS!
Katbat88 1 month ago
Best gift - that's a load of bull
UmbrellaGirl64 1 month ago
This reminds me of Green Chimneys RTC Brewster NY. The academics is the same at Green Chimneys. Disciple is just another way to say punishiment there and it sounds just like Green Chimneys. Many kids had dislocations; if you wrote letters out you can't seal them so staff can read them. Calls are monitored. WWASP institutions are dangerous & don't send your kids out of the country. Rigorous and strong are words you beware of. Emphasis on discipline and saying it's strong is a warning.
UmbrellaGirl64 1 month ago
Ron Paul 2012. Mitt Romney should be burned at the stake being connected to your filth.........
Mitt Romney took WWASP funding!!!!!
Rx7drifter13b 2 months ago
fuck you wwasp
bae123456 5 months ago
FREE EARL!!!
whatsyoureyedea 7 months ago
WHen they mention the Mexican camp, that is hight impact that was where I spent 7 months of my life. It was beyond hell on earth!
Teichmomma 8 months ago
Tips for victims of abuse on pursuing compensation:-
U.K victims of abuse at WWASPS schools or foreign schools might succeed in pursuing compensation at Leigh Day Solicitors, or Irwin Mitchell Solicitors. Jordans Solicitors also specialize in U.K abuse cases.
You might be eligible for legal aid funding and if you win your case you don't pay anything. If you lose however you might have to pay for the court fees of the other side...Government don't help victims of abuse enough in my opinion
GlobalPrison 8 months ago
most of them are closed now people, so calm down. It's not like the country is just letting this happen.
KittyKraz13 8 months ago
@KittyKraz13 I wouldn't say that. Institutional abuse is FAR from having been addressed. Notice how "shock therapy" is seen as nothing more than a plot device for horror movies, instead of being seen as a horrendous savage injustice committed on innocent teens in the 60's and 70's and viewed with the same seriousness that we use to speak of the Holocaust or slavery.
Closing them isn't enough. The people in charge must all be imprisoned. And plenty are still open.
KingRadbadical1988 8 months ago
I am a survivor of Cross Creek Manor, a WWASP facility. It has been 10 years since I graduated and I still suffer from PTSD. I urge parents to find alternative means to address the difficulties they are trying to surmount by sending their child away.
lisaloveselvis 9 months ago
@lisaloveselvis
This whole thing is fucking bullshit.
This makes my blood boil.
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kaiuiaasddd 10 months ago
i went to that school, oooooh shit is that Luis from the Kitchen jajajaja
crazyrabbit36 10 months ago
This is why I'm always happy when cops get killed. The ENTIRE government allows this so the ENTIRE government is guilty. Just wanna kill 'em all. Love cops dying. Rape their wives for loving them too. Kill their kids for having a nice life and being taught by daddy to hate on poor kids or kids who were homeless in America and imprisoned for not having any parents even though they coulda survived homeless. We just need a terror campaign.
KingRadbadical1988 1 year ago
@KingRadbadical1988
You're an idiot..
toddissofullysick 9 months ago
@toddissofullysick You just don't know the truth.
KingRadbadical1988 8 months ago
You don't know the fucking truth. If Muslim terrorists did to our children what foster care facilities do to them, it would be okay to say the same things about them. But when the government does those things we're supposed to shrug our shoulders and say "the system isn't perfect"? You might not realize how organized of a system of abuse this is.
KingRadbadical1988 8 months ago
@KingRadbadical1988 OMG A BAD COP THEY'RE ALL FUCKING EVIL HURR DURR
toddissofullysick 8 months ago
@toddissofullysick Once again, you don't know the fucking truth.
If this was one or two bad cops they would be put in prison.
KingRadbadical1988 8 months ago
@toddissofullysick I'm so tired of this stupid fucking argument dude, every time I defeat it another one of you cop apologist comes out of the woodwork. I keep trying to explain to you people: ITS NOT THE BAD COPS THAT ARE THE PROBLEM. ITS THE OTHER COPS WHO REFUSE TO ARREST THOSE BAD COPS.
ITS THE JUDGES WHO REFUSE TO PROSECUTE THOSE COPS. THIS IS NOT "A BAD COP" THIS IS AN ENTIRE SYSTEM DESIGNED TO TORTURE CHILDREN AND ALLOW THE PERPETRATORS TO GET AWAY WITH IT. Still don't understand?
KingRadbadical1988 8 months ago
@toddissofullysick Trust me dude the evil in this system is a LOT more than "A bad cop". A LOT more.
So if I say Muslim terrorists should be prosecuted you reply with "OMG A BAD MUSLIM THEY'RE ALL FUCKING EVIL HURR DURR".
If a baker kills someone do we let him get away with it because "not all bakers are bad"? Why does this logic ONLY apply with cops?
KingRadbadical1988 8 months ago
@toddissofullysick You're just another mainstream sheeple repeating the same losing argument that so many others do. And our kind, the people who actually give a flying fuck about the fact that children are being tortured, WILL have our way at some point. Its just that people like you are holding us back in the middle ages with your complacency and incorrect/unrelated "some cops are good so lets let the bad cops get off scot free every time" rhetoric
KingRadbadical1988 8 months ago
@toddissofullysick P.S. saying that cops who break the law should be treated like any other criminal is NOT saying "All cops are bad". You're just making that one up because you have some irrational desire to defend a government that willingly and openly tortures children. WHY you feel this way I do not understand.
KingRadbadical1988 8 months ago
@KingRadbadical1988 I quote "This is why I'm always happy when cops get killed. The ENTIRE government allows this so the ENTIRE government is guilty. Just wanna kill 'em all. Love cops dying. "
toddissofullysick 8 months ago
@toddissofullysick Until some of those "good cops" start arresting the bad ones, yes! I take back the rape/killing kids thing, but I'm no more of a sicko than your average coplover! Coplovers are not human, seeing the hatred and ridicule of human beings they dish out, their judgementalness, I would say they're no better than the people they love to judge, the "scumbags". Everyone is a "scumbag" to them. They should look in the mirror before calling everyone else a "criminal".
KingRadbadical1988 8 months ago
@toddissofullysick And P.S. I admit to being judgemental so HA!!!!!
Their judgments are based merely off of the fact that someone is having an interaction with a police officer. A police officer could be having a conversation with some random stranger about the weather and one of these coplover rednecks will mutter under their breath "Stupid fucking whore slut bitch, I'll bet she's getting arrested for being a drug dealer, I hope those brave men rape that dumb ugly slut in front of her children
KingRadbadical1988 8 months ago
I watched the movie BOOT CAMP and its about these type of schools
kloikrules 1 year ago
i spent 11 months at casa by the sea in 2000 to 2001. it was by far the worst experience ive ever been through
rowton01 1 year ago
SHE GOT PHONE CALLS?? Thats bull I didn't get to call anyone for 19 months
sadiepup420 1 year ago
WWASPS are fucking mercenary camps that profit off torturing and brainwashing unjustly imprisoned children. I still don't see how these places are allowed to exist, and I'm not just talking about government regulations. Kids need to riot, or something, before they get killed in these places!
NYanarchy08 1 year ago
I was at SCL for 7 months. My parents had no idea. They feel terrible now, they apologize to me, they really didn't know. It was marketed as an elite boarding school, a therapudic environment, almost like going to summer camp. That couldn't be farther from the truth.
LOL I remember CATs, the rule system. You would get punished for looking at the opposite sex.
Karma will reach Cameron and Chaffin one day.
RogueAdamantiumQueen 1 year ago
@RogueAdamantiumQueen All we have to do is track them down and sodomize them with tire irons, how hard can it be? Just wait outside whatever institution they work at and wait till its a dark place then get a set together to surround them, etc.
KingRadbadical1988 1 year ago
@RogueAdamantiumQueen I HOPE someone is with me on this. One day I want to be killed by cops after fighting for what's right. I believe in the possibility of afterlife and that revenge is justice. I am so angry that they would hurt you and maybe some day you can point out the faces of the people who worked at the place you were and we can send a message.
KingRadbadical1988 1 year ago
this is awful i cant believe "schools" like this are still there. I just came back from one in Utah.. this needs to stop
morgannmunro 1 year ago
First... narvin dictated alot of the abuse in Costa rica, His wife was a very nice lady though. I hope they do burn...I was In Costa Rica for 15.5 months I Was there for the riot, and the taping of that.
bullriderat17 1 year ago
he3y didnt they close it down cuz i was at scl and we hasd kid come there in like o4 from a skool in mex
lLionl 2 years ago
um, no. do tell us what you know....
ficausa 2 years ago
Ha, i was at Majestic Ranch in Randolph Utah ( owned by the brother in law of the founder of wwasp) kids who were prescribed medicine were made to take it
landryarthur 2 years ago
Did this NWO TV program mention anything about forced ingestion of pharmaceutical drugs for these prisoners?
TakeOutMenu 2 years ago
Makes me think that most of the staff are either former jailbirds who have no experience in the field of psychology or childcare or psychopaths who hate teenagers or saw one too many Friday the 13th movies. I hope each and every one of them burns and rots in the most vile level of Hell, their flesh and muscle melting off of their bones, feeling the pain of the tens of thousands of tortured souls they helped maim.
theperfectone121212 2 years ago
@theperfectone121212 That's what I want to do. I want a bunch of people to start sodomizing institutional-workers with tire irons until this shit stops.
All I can say about revolution is "don't let the communists, Muslims, or anyone else take over afterwards". Same goes for the Crips and Bloods. Other than that? Let government collapse and let righteous VENGEANCE take over.
KingRadbadical1988 1 year ago 2
Couldnt agree more, I was at CSA the one is south Carolina and it was just like what they say, acted all great but really sucked. POH wasnt like that when i went there but i dont dout it at all, But narven is a great guy and i dont really think he knows it goes on.
marionruth3 2 years ago
CSA SUCKS! went there for 4 months and i hated it! CSA = cant smile academy
cccCCCccc123ccc 1 year ago
lol, I have been reading/watching a lot of the wwasp related reports and vids around recently...
while all the claims are absolutely, without question, 100% true...
nothing comes close to the facilities in places like samoa.
a friend of mine was sent there about 15 years ago.
the kids were given 1 pair of clothes. they slept/lived in the open, or in shacks infested with rats and cockroaches with no beds.
punishment involved solitary confinement and beatings. nothing less.
MongloBonglo 2 years ago
(continuing)
the kids were forced to do pointless hard labor (breaking rocks, choping wood, etc).
no contact, whatsoever, with parents (not just censored).
no guards protected the kids from each other.
he never told me if anyone comitted suicide, but he did say that they started to abuse inhalants (cleaner sprays and fuel) that they had access to.
MongloBonglo 2 years ago
(continuing)
he had his hand smashed with a coconut on a rock by the guards. it was never treated, and his ring and pinkie on his right hand are half the length of the uninjured hand (looks pretty nasty).
anyone familiar with WWASP will know that the samoa facility was "shut down"
what ACTUALLY happened was that all of the staff fled the island and left the kids behind.
my friend says that this was the worst part. he believed he was going to die.
MongloBonglo 2 years ago
they were saved, relatively quickly.
I cant remember if he told me that it was eventully a WWASP ship, a unaffiliated commercial ship, or government ship that got them off the island.
Im not trying to claim that these people left the kid to die. I am trying to point out that the kids KNEW that they were being illegally mistreated, and that when all of the staff mysteriously left, that it would have SEEMED like they were leaving them to die, especially to someone who endured that abuse.
MongloBonglo 2 years ago
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I was at Casa by the Sea and Pacific Veiw for a 13 months. 2 months spent at Casa then left to the 18 and up program Pacific Veiw. I was there when they shut down Casa and Pacific Veiw. It happen on the day of PC-1. I remember seeing Parents shitting outside the day when the program was shut down.
6869Star 2 years ago
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6869Star 2 years ago
Red River had study hall cramped hands and copying the rule books for days
bmbabygirl 2 years ago
my god their to strict and selfish and sort of bitchy
bmbabygirl 2 years ago
This kind of stuff makes me so angry I could kill someone. The media should stop trying to get us to care about Michael Jackson's death and Britney Spears and expose stuff that actually matters.
jackbauer6543 2 years ago 2
i was in horizon. fuckin horrible
billynussbaum 2 years ago 2
TheFamilySchoolTruth com Website....the Family Foundation School abuses children
Kflyboiii 2 years ago
sounds like my school no joke
monkeynut000 2 years ago
at 14 doing drugs? big woof
rrrula 2 years ago
rich bitch hahahahahahaha
hoode215 2 years ago
I went to one of these schools called Casa by the sea. It was the worst experience of my life and I hope no one has to go through what me and my friends there went through. If you can help shut down wwasps please do. I know it can be tough to talk about what happened to you but the world needs to hear it!!!!
Russell3888 2 years ago
How long were you at Casa for ?
6869Star 2 years ago
I was there for over a year and a half. From 16 to 18. Did you go there?
Russell3888 2 years ago
I was there for 13 month. 2 months at Casa and the rest at 18+ program next door from Casa
6869Star 2 years ago
I spent most of my time in Casa and a couple moths in the 18+ program. What dates where you there?
Russell3888 2 years ago
I am in the process of writing a book about wwasps based on my own experience and that of other former detainees. Please send me some info about your experiences if you feel so inclined.
riotstick67 3 years ago
I was the 26th student at tranquility bay. i graduated the program after a year. Please contact me for info.
craig97045 2 years ago
cross creek programs sucks balls
P2dadecka 3 years ago
I was in Spring Creek lodge in 1998 before anybody even really knew what was going on in these places. It was a nightmare and I learned a lot about cruelty and the dark side of the human condition. These prisons should be burned with the staff inside.
riotstick67 3 years ago
Im an Elan survivor motherfuckers....what do you know bout hard schools ha?? what do you know bout GMS....scrubbing toilets...boxing rings...hog tying students....what do you know?
skymunro 3 years ago
i was sent to spring creek lodge in 04 when i was 16 in montana.. i have just as many if not more problems in my life now
insidebeauty4 3 years ago
Damn... i was at Casa by the Sea from jan 03 to may 04... that places was hell on earth. To this day my dad doesnt like to talk about the program. He feels so guilty for sending me. I cant believe what a mask they put on... let me tell you... they tricked shitloads of people. assholes...
pinggurl19 3 years ago
im sorry that u had 2 go thru dat shit
Fatfireman32 3 years ago
p.s. narvin is a liar. and this is a front for these fucking mormons to make money.
green1em 3 years ago 2
CSA and Pillars of Hope (used to be dundee). these programs are discusting. i was kidnapped in the middle of the night and sent there when i was 16. i was there for 16 months. im 20 now and to this day my parents do not beleive the truth about these horrible places.
green1em 3 years ago
Thats so true. I have the same problem. I went to MWA for over a year and everything I told them they thought were lies because of my family rep.
sarahblake315 3 years ago
if my kid was acting like this,
I would take care of it myself, as their mother. I would NEVER
send them away to have someone else deal
with them. These people need to be
parents and discipline their own children
and be there for them when they need them and are getting involved in destructive behavior, not sending
them away and letting some psychos deal with them. this makes me angry!!!
PurpleCantaloupe79 3 years ago 2
I was in one of these brainwashing camps when I was 14. It was a Straight Inc. spin-off. The psychological abuse and torture was deplorable. I can't believe these places haven't been shut down for human rights violations. Where is the mass media? Call your local news outlet and ask them why they don't investigate and prosecute those who did what they did to me and so many others.
wdtony 3 years ago
i went to two of these programs. Cross Creek in La Verkin, Utah and then when they kicked me out they sent me to Tranquility Bay in St.Elizabeth, Jamaica. IT WAS FUCKING HELL AND THEY DO ABUSE YOU AND LIE TO PARENTS AND TO THE EMBASSY
iloveriotgrrl 3 years ago 3
ur not alone, they sent me there 2. i was there in jamaica for a year. we had 2 riots that they covered up, we killed some of there staff that they covered up, students committed suicide there and attempted it all the time. the proudest moments of my life were killing those fucking bastards.
Munroe031 3 years ago 2
damnnnn.dammnnnnn i always wanted to do that :l
ivysickgirl 3 years ago
haha, youd be surprised. when you crush someones head with a fire extinguisher, its like your at peace finaly, a calm in all the chaos
Munroe031 3 years ago
you sound very brave :]
that IS a brave thing to do actually.
killing those fuckers.
i dont fucking give a shit about them.
they fucking deserve it.
ivysickgirl 3 years ago
You are sick.
canofsand 3 years ago
CSA And Dundee ranch right here. Even worse they have upper levels lie to parents .
Geltabz101 3 years ago
YES. CSGAYYYYYY. i fucking hated a staff member there named ms kathy. & teressa. woooooo they gave me hellll.
ivysickgirl 3 years ago
teressa dropped me to level 1 from 4 because I talked to long to a girl upper level at one of those activities. Man I hated those 2 years. U know I came out of there way worse than i went in with new worse problems. Not much anyone can do bout it now though.
Geltabz101 3 years ago
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alotofcheese76 3 years ago
The were all hell. I went to 3 different schools before i graduated, and they were all just as bad as the others, does anybody know where i can find more videos on Casa By The Sea?
sth73444 3 years ago 2
"wow this is real?
i thought my friend was lying, he was in the mexico camp- they rioted afterwards and destroyed everything in site."
What a fucking AWESOME "friend" you are, you piece of sh*t. All of *US*, WE have had to deal with people like you. I hope he had the sense to ditch you. Thanks for your support. I'm sure it helped him deal with his past.
failednewyears 3 years ago 3
i was at casa by the sea. it was hell. the video is complete bs. no one understands unless they were there...they took away our adolescence.
enething4luv 4 years ago 7
people ALWAYS think we are lying... untill they see it for themselves or go themselves. When are people going to understand that when HUNDREDS of cases from VARIOUS places both IN and OUT of the U.S. say the same damn thing despite NEVER meeting one another that there JUST might be something going on?
DieYuppieSkum 4 years ago 5
it is called wasp because it will sting your happieness out.
poopidoop2 4 years ago 4
Fucking revolting. You know what, if you can't control your teen kids, leave them the fuck alone. The role of parents is to help pick up the pieces when things go wrong, not to inhibit their individual decision making and indoctrinate them into a world that might not be theirs.
SolarPlexus3 4 years ago 19
wow this is real?
i thought my friend was lying, he was in the mexico camp- they rioted afterwards and destroyed everything in site.
e15patman 4 years ago
Complete inhuman bastards...
reinforcedpenisstem 4 years ago 6
THERE HAVE BEEN ENOUGH ALLEGATIONS!!! THESE SCUMBAGS ARE ABUSERS! i WAS IN PARADISE COVE WAS BEATEN WAS HELD AFTER MY 18 BDAY! hostage! BEATEN FOR TRYING TO SEND A LETTER TO THE EMBASSY. they deserve to rot in hell!!!
focus416 4 years ago 17
I couldn't agree more. I was researching the WWASP places for my school project. Paradise Cove sounded like one of the worst of all of them. It made me sick, and I didn't even attend the program.
lublyannaline 4 years ago 4
Do not worry. They WILL rot and BUUUUURRRN in hell. The torture they put on all those defenseless children is nothing compared to what they will be rewarded with in the afterlife.
GeneralSirDouglasMcA 4 years ago
@focus416 fuck these WWASP Mormon psychopaths!!!
ozzydemon288 7 months ago
i was at spring creek for 14 months. what a nightmare, i wish they'd just shut down all of them. it's not right how they can just come and kidnap kids against their will just because they're minors and their parents said so.
lilboshmoe 4 years ago
i also spoke to perspective parents as a level 5 after being there for 18 months. If i told the truth to those parents, i would never go home!!!!!!!!!!!!
hyphydan 4 years ago
i was sent to casa in 03' and graduated in 04. to this day my prents do not believe me. They refuse to even do research or look at vids like this. I would agree with most survivors that i have developed anxiety and depression, as well as insomnia. Not to mention i have virtually no relationship with my parents.
hyphydan 4 years ago 2
i attended Carolina Springs Academy. I can tell you one reason why parents buy into these places beeing so great. When students like myself gave tours we had to sell them on the school telling them how great it was no matter how we really felt.
JeepGirl129 4 years ago
Did it help you, I have 4 kids- 21, 20, 16, & 12. The 20 yr. old always comes home drunk if were lucky enough she does come home, my 16 year old was a victim of bullying cuz he's been homeschooling since Apr./2005, but he has become more aggressive, like a hermit, feels unwanted and now he's cutting himself, he also gets in my face cusses @ me and hits me really hard, I am his mother...
omylucy 4 years ago
no it didnt help me at all 3 months after i was pulled from the program i was placed in a group home. the group home helped me more in the 6months that i was there than CSA ever could. maybe you reasearch group homes. they are alot better you are able to see your children and it is a more home enviroment. i went to a baptist childrens home here in NC. i actually miss it sometimes.
JeepGirl129 4 years ago
I am so sorry that you had to go through this and even be forced to lie. Thank-you for responding back & for your HONESTY. How old were you when all this happen? How old are u now? Do you feel like a changed person? Did it truly help in the long run? Was it worth it & do you hate your parents for doing this to you? Did things just get worst? Please respond all my questions. From a desperate mom. Thanks again.
LucilleBallnumber1 4 years ago
i was 14 when i went in and 16 when i came out. i am almost 21 now. i dont hate my family for sending me there. they, like most parents, had no idea what really went on. i have benefited from some of the experiences from the program but it has taken a long time to put those few things to use. things def. got worse after the program. it only took 2 days and i was right back at square one.
JeepGirl129 4 years ago
Thank-you for responding, so you mean to tell me that in "your case" it didnot do you any good.? That's Okay, every case is different. I have a 21 yrs old, a 2o yr. old & 16 & 12. Thanks again.
LucilleBallnumber1 4 years ago
I had to hurry writing back on my comment cuz I was running out of battery but I meant to say, that LucilleBallnumber1 & omy/lucy is the same person. And I also wanted to say like I have said before, EVERYONE STRUGGLES W/ THIER OWN DEMONS, EVERYDAY! It's like being a drug addict, if you don't stick to the program & follow the steps, you will relaspe. By the way I am a recovering addict, who just relaspse on painkillers because the dr. sent them & I was diagnosed w/ arthritis.
LucilleBallnumber1 4 years ago
part 3 besides the fact that I am really going through pain, it almost sounds like the "PERFECT EXCUSE", besides the fact that I been suffering from severe depression for as long as I can remember, like everyone else, my life hasn't been exactly a piece of cake.
LucilleBallnumber1 4 years ago
So Don't worry girlfriend, I could be your mom I'm 41 w/ four kids. I told you thier ages. I don't mean to sound nosy, & you don't have to tell me if you donot want to, but what was really going on in yur young life that your parents didnot jnow about. And What do you mean by things getting worst right after. Can you talk to me?
LucilleBallnumber1 4 years ago
Well I hope to hear from you soon, Maybe one day we will all get through this painful life we live in. Maybe if your interested we can share our stories. Remember I have a 16 yr. old son, who started becoming very violent after being bullied from school, and he started showing the red flags @ 14. He kept it quiet for a ver long time before that to.
LucilleBallnumber1 4 years ago
Sorry for writing so much, My 21 yr. old doesn't give me any trouble, as a matter of fact she acts like my mom, My 20 yr. old loves to to clubling & get drunk all the time on weekends, she has even totaled her new car. She's completely different from my first daughter, and my 12 year old daughter is witnesing a very unhealthy environment, & is learning too much too fast. Three girls & one boy. Talk to you later I hope.
LucilleBallnumber1 4 years ago
If it gets too bad call the cops on them. Contrary to conventional opinion, these places can be much worse than jail. At least in jail you have some rights.
riotstick67 3 years ago
And then there are the cult seminars. Parent seminars for Cross Creek were developed by David Gilcrease of Resource Realizations- a former Lifespring trainer. Lifespring is commonly categorized as a cult. Parents and students are persuaded to suspend thier core values, confess thier sins, and to "Trust the program". For an informative video- search utube "How to be a cult leader"
Whistleblower38 4 years ago
Why are parents buying into this? Deceptive marketing? Teenhelp (AZTeenhelp, CATeenhelp, et al)has saturated the internet market acting as an "independent referral agency" yet the only programs they refer to are WWASP and they have no formal training. Teenhelp shows up on WWASP contracts and most sources agree Teenhelp is under the WWASP blanket. Add to this an active multilevel marketing type parent referral program...
Whistleblower38 4 years ago
While the physical abuse kids suffered at TB, High Impact and the overseas facilities is shocking... the mental abuse and mind control suffered at Cross Creek and all WWASPs is damaging long term.
Add to this that "students" with mental illnesses/disabilities such as depression, ADHD, Bipolar, ODD, and anorexia/bulimia, etc.are lumped in with "naughty" teenagers, juvenile offenders abuse survivors, and addicts and treated to the same "therapy" unilaterally...
Whistleblower38 4 years ago
I was at both Tranquility Bay and Cross Creek, and while Cross Creek wasn't all that bad for the most part, physical abuse, illegal activities, and lies being told to my parents were the reasons I finally got out of TB, thank god.
nsalyers66 4 years ago
I'm doing a report on one of these places for school. It's a persuasive essay, and my argument is that the facility Tranquility Bay should be shut down. This TV report helped me a lot.
lublyannaline 4 years ago
Great topic for a persuasive essay! Good Luck! And I'm glad this helped!
ficausa 4 years ago
I spent a year at Ivy Ridge in New York (another "school" apart of WWASP programs) , i hope people watch this and become aware of whats happening, its not only places in other countries, these places are in our own backyards.
BaxterD 4 years ago
Yes they are! Good Point. We are trying to spread the word. Many people also don't realize that a majority of these programs are run by people who are heavily involved in the Morman Church. Perhaps if this was made know to parents up front, they might think twice about using one of these schools. Of course, for others, this fact wouldn't matter...
ficausa 4 years ago
OMG!!! This sounds liek a school I went to! I dono if they actually could be brought up on abuse charges, but academics as a joke, holding kids on teh ground, having false tors for parents, small cell like detention rooms, OMG!!!
happylmc 4 years ago
which school did you go to? They probably could be brought up.
lublyannaline 4 years ago
Yeah, I'm sure it is just like the school you went to, there are many of them out there. The problem with trying to sue is (1) statute of limitations tend to be very short and (2)the companies ('schools') generally have a whole lot more money and time to fight than individuals.
ficausa 4 years ago
Oh my god!! Why anyone havn't done something to stop that madness??
Rani060 4 years ago
Unfortunately, we've been trying to do something for years, but we are up against multi-billion dollar corporations with hugely influential political ties.
ficausa 4 years ago
i was at casa by the sea and graduated the program in 99. i was in samoa at paradise cove before that. i was in that shit from 97 to 99. samoa was the worst. casa was a vacation. as long as u did what u were told u were straight. i was on the upper levels tho.
173airborn 4 years ago
Glad you survived, I would love to hear how you are doing now...
ficausa 4 years ago
Dude. I was fucking THERE at the one in Mexico (not casa by the sea, but the one they show about a minute into it that was shut down in late 01). "High Impact" was shut down on december 5th and I was back in Utah at another program by December 6th. that's a trip to see it again after all these years.
midakwe 4 years ago
High Impact, in my opinion, was the worst of all places. Kids chained up in cages like animals in very, very high temperatures, it was as bad as Guantanamo Bay. I'm glad you survived, too bad you had to be transferred to another program in Utah, which one was it?
ficausa 4 years ago
I went back to cross creek manor where I had previously spent 5 or so days before i attempted to run away, which is what landed me in high impact in the first place lol. i can't even tell you how wonderful cross creek seemed after that.
midakwe 4 years ago
horrible, I can't believe this. No child deserves this, no matter what they've been doing. They need therapy, not this kind of treatment. And at Harvard prices! I'm going to be sick.
lublyannaline 4 years ago