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  • my school sucks, cuz i got a 95 on my biology regents and have never heard any of this, oh wait, thats a .95, maybe im a bad student.

  • unicorn magic!

  • I'm using ponies to study for a test.

    I think it's working...

    ...the fuck?

  • Mumble finds a pet in the background called it! Also, Alicorns just have stronger magic than Unicorns. I don't think that real life genetics would really work with Ponies, however it could be that neither having the feature or lacking it is dominant or recessive, but they have 3 alleles of each. Another thing to note is that it's probably impossible for 2 non Aliconr parents to ahve an alicorn child, but maybe Aliconr's alleles are different, jsut how Females have XX and males have XY so

  • @xvxtobyxvx There may be conditions that only males can get because it only affects the Y chromosones. So there may be a dominant Allele which makes you an Alicorn which is impossible to be a carrier of. Also, I don't think that wings and horns will have a seperate pair of Allele,s since tehy are'nt jstu a feature of Ponies, they are waht determine the species of a pony.

  • Wings would also have the magic ability to let pegisi stand on clouds. Because the pegisi can rest on them it without flapping their wings, nor are thet exceptionally light compared the the other species. However normal earth ponies and unicorns cannot stand on clouds, without a spell, meaning that it has to be the wings. Does that make sense?

  • Am I the only one who had no idea what he was saying, but stayed because of ponies?

  • This does explain a bit. In Hearth's Warming Eve it is explained that the unicorns(plural) control day and night. Where as now one alicorn can do it alone as Celestia did for 1000 years.

  • Wouldnt that mean 2 earth ponies have a 25% chance of having a pegasus foal, and 25% chance of a unicorn foal?

  • @Chainsaw20x7 If both of them were heterozygous for those traits, then yes.

  • Twilight's voice sounds kinda masculine. :o

  • Again, whuoah, man.

    This is deep, I just watch the show for the luls and the ponies...

  • Pony Jesus says there's no such thing as ponevolution, so have fun with your evil genetics nonsense! Derp in ponyhell!

  • @wofpof LOL

  • i dont buy this theory not even by 50 cents. it is simple: Mrs. cupcake had an affair, and mr. cake suspects of that, but he is in denial, that's why he came up that genetics bullshit.

  • I find it surprising that I just learned this lesson in Biology a few days ago.

  • I love how this is the rarest kind of video on youtube, one where someone talks a lot, but KNOWS how to position their mic and avoid tons of breath/wind noise. Thank you so much.

  • @durial32 Thanks! I try to make it the best quality I can with what I have available.

  • fun fact earth ponys have magic too:)

  • Mumble finds a pet!

  • Also, this video has a LOT of large comments

  • I would think that Unicorns and Pegasi would live shorter lives, the Pegasi would have lighter bones, which wear out faster. Unicorns use physical energy to practice magic (demonstrated many times in the show). The Pegasi's bones would wear down quicker, and everytime a Unicorn practices strenous magic, they would essentially be using their life force to do so.

  • Interesting theories, but I'd think that wings and horns giving long-lasting effects through magic would mean that unicorns and pegasi live longer than the average earth pony, and I don't know if that's necessarily true.

    inb4 it's a cartoon for little girls

  • i can see but it dosent explain why theirs not trates form the mother my theory was that threw some sort of magic event mr cake lost his orn and miss cake lost her fur clouring and wings

    meaning the wings and horns would be seen in there kids

  • First dislike.

    Ha! Ha! Ha!

  • I ask you, what other fandom has people who try to explain the GENETICS of the characters?

    None.

    Man, this took me waaaaay back (and by "waaaaay back" I mean 3-4 years). Biology was pretty fun in Highschool, though I did enjoy Chem a whole lot more.

    Overall, I'd say your analysis is about as good (better, in my case) as any. And the best part is, if there's a discrepancy, just throw in a magical element and you're good to go!

  • I LOVE THIS COMMUNITY

  • So apparently my brother watched this in his Biology class today and said it was awesome, and he STILL won't give the show a chance.

  • Well it just so happens i'm starting biology on friday. Maybe I'll review this in a few months when i understand it better.

  • yes, an alicorn can live longer, and maybe even so forever or stop ageing after reaching adulthood.

    how i know this:

    1. nightmare moon was trapped in the moon for 1,000 years, so she and celestia had to be able to live that long for nightmare moon to come back.

    2. celestia looks the same age from when grandma smith was a filly to now a grand mom, meaning celestia would have to stay the same age.

  • Ponies make learning FUN :DDD

  • Thanks man! I showed this to my biology teacher and she loved it! This really helped our genetic lesson!

  • Nothing to do with genetics...Mrs.Cake has just been cheating on her husband....

  • ....I just learned about genetics last quarter. Then after I watched the episode for the first time, we had a test on genetics. SO WEIRD.

  • Wow... that's cool! I was so confused before hand!

  • Imo it would be codominance recessive. So it would be: ex. I'll use x for the genes. x^h = Horned, x^w = Winged. It works out in the exception of having a x^h x^w which would be an Alicorn, correct? No, I see this as an Earth pony. Therefore if two heterozygous ponies(earth) mate there would be a 50% for an earth pony, 25% unicorn, and 25% pegasus. Now where Alicorns come in, I see a seperate Gene which would be X which would be the Alicorn gene, having full dominance over any recessive.

  • I wonder how the genetics work in Discords case. Considering alicorns are essentially chimeras, same as Discord, it would be sensible to assume the same genetics apply to all of them.

  • i am giving this to my teacher and make him play this fort he class

  • @haseothepkker Cool! Let me know how that goes.

  • Pegasi use magic to fly and control the weather, Unicorns directly manipulate magic and earth ponies have magical connections to earth.

  • I heard a theroy on deviant art (cant remember where exactly) that a third Genotype allowed for alicorns to exist and still remain rare as they are. The Alicorn Trait, Recessive, represented by aa allows for the traits of the unicorn or pegasus to be represented more strongly than alone. having the proper Genotype for an alicorn mixed with the aa trait would create an Full blown Alicorn. Hope that makes sense.

  • Punnett Square!

  • There one little problem, Mr. Cake only mentioned that one relative wasn't an Earth Pony, and the say for Mrs. Cake. So how do you explain that?

  • There could always be non-Mendelian factors coming into play here such as epistasis. Perhaps the magical properties in the wings could be an example of recessive epistasis?

  • i like how a show as simple as my little pony can have complex genetics like this keep up the good work!

  • Now, tell me how you explain Derpy.

  • I liked an explanation where Earth ponies were the dominant allele, Pegasi were expressed with a lack of the Earth pony allele, and Unicorns were expressed by a lack of either. That way, Alicorns are left a mystery which is fitting considering there are only two known ones.

    Oh, and you're totally right about Pegasi having magic. It's what allows them to walk on clouds and control the weather - as confirmed by Lauren Faust. I also like to think it's what actually allows them to fly.

  • AGH. DAMN YOU. I'm on YouTube to AVOID my Genetics homework! T~T

  • @PaleoSteno Gratz on getting this video in the EQD roundup.

  • can you please please please tell me where you got the twilight sparkle picture (in the beginning)? I Liked the video.

  • @TsuruTsuruPettanNana Check the description, SirPonyLancelot made them, but right now they're just for me to use. Not sure if he's gonna post them up at a later point.

  • Weird, I haven't even taken high school biology yet, but I know exactly what you're talking about. I actually learned about Punnett Squares and alleles in fifth grade, when I first got into middle school. Still, this theory does make a lot of sense for pony genetics.

  • wall my oc techno is a alicorn but hes mom is a unicorn and he dad is a pegasus so ha you dont need a alicorn to make a the next gen alicorn

  • That's what I get for taking Chem and Physics

  • Long story short:

    Earth ponies suck.

  • im only 13 am i stupid for not knowing the things you said i shud know ? :c

  • @Jadesmorot nope

  • In translation: Princess Celesia and Luna are the Kwisatz Haderach

    (insert Dune theme here)

  • well... I guess my school sucks then

  • So, what if a pegasus gives birth to an earth pony in cloudsdale? Since non-pegasi ponies can't walk on clouds, would the infant fall to it's death?

  • @XISMN They have other materials than just clouds there, but if there was just clouds underneath then probably yes.

  • If only cartoons followed real life genetics. Lol.

  • Y'know, with this explanation. I now understand why in this one abridgement of MLP they refer to the Earth Ponies as "mud ponies." It's because of their genes.

  • My little pony: Biology is magic

    Well done.

  • 1:25 or you went to a private Christian school that frowns upon science O_o

  • @Saberspark or you just havne't been taught it yet

  • Its odd that we are trying to understand magical, candy colored ponies with science. Good enough explanation and I can see some possible fanfic ideas with this. Also with rumor of a third male alicorn out there I wonder if it is possible that normal ponies can make an alicorn. Idk.

  • @NovaMarcellus Check the background in Lesson Zero where twi is having a flashback about being in a classroom of foals, theres an alicorn in the back right

  • lol, about what you said about the pegasus wings not being able to carry a pony - If what I thought of was correct you could use the theory of evolution or adaptation - at first the pegasus would not be able to fly (Earlier in time, or say as a foal) but the wings would eventually be able to sustain wight by either growing in length or say, muscle, allow to the Pegasi to fly eventually in time, but not early stages of life.

  • >Goes to school with top final scores in the state

    >Have not even heard about this

    >shrug.jpg

  • @asdfness123

    >Is an awful student.

    >The school is terrible.

    >Easily recognizes this.

    >Uhh... Irony.jpg?

  • this is the Second pony genetics theory I've run into in a week. ever since the Babycakes episode, scientific minds have stirred.

    the OTHER theory uses the "human eye color"arrangement for genetics.

    i've come up with a third from you two. i think an arrangement similar to how human blood types come up in Genetics. with A being the Pegs, B the 'corns, and O the earth ponies. this also incorporates the Royal Sisters (AB)

  • @anonymuswere That actually makes a lot of sense. Especially since AB is the rarest blood type and O is the most common.

    Also, I'm B+, so I'm a Unicorn, hooray!

    I may make a follow up video to this explaining it with blood types, because I'm liking this idea a lot.

  • @PaleoSteno Interesting, but can we rightly state that earth ponies are the most common? And with the blood type theory, does that mean it is linked to wing/horn alleles?

    This is some very cool stuff! :D

  • just pointing out that alleles aren't always in pairs. Also the distribution on the alleles in the gnome also has some baring on the phenotype.

    Another scenario could be that the U and P genes are always dominant but require an environmental switch on . Hence needing the U and P genes in the family.

    Also there is no blood link between Pegasuses and the Cakes because cousins don't pass genetics to your branch (barr incest). So misses cake cheated

  • @donotreply1000 That's part of why I mentioned that I would assume that nearly all earth ponies are heterozygous, so that way the ancestry could have gone further back in Mrs. Cake's family to where they don't have records for it.

    You're right about the alleles though, but I never said that they always had to be in pairs. While I was refreshing myself on the subject, I figured I would keep the explanation of distribution out of it to keep it from getting too confusing.

  • Sience! :D

  • This video deserves more likes/views. That was an interestingly unexpected theory.

  • Odd, I seem to have taken the square basics (No names, just observations) in the 5th grade.

  • It's funny because I actually understood that.

  • I did not understand a word you just said, but gosh darn it! I LOVE the way you said it!

  • My theory is that the genetics of a pony child can be manipulated whilst still in the womb via magic. My support to this theory is the fact that Twilight Sparkle used a magic spell to effectively change the biology of Rarity to have wings. Therefore, it is entirely possible that the genetics of the pony foals could have been manipulated while in development to manifest these traits. i.e. Wings & horn.

  • I must say. A very interesting video. WEll done sir.

  • (about "bad student")

    Give me some credit, biology was like ages ago!

  • I'm simply a seventh grader and I know ALL of these terms and understand ALL the theories as well.

  • Gregor Mendel would be proud!

    @VladLogimane I always came to the conclusion that Scootaloo was just a "Late bloomer" as you can take multiple gene subjects (clones) and raise them all, yet their development can be sped up or slowed from environmental factors. Also there is the potential that magic potency is also genetically passed and that by having magically strong families groups can, this can explain how Twilight sparkle can be exceptional while other unicorns seem to fall short magically.

  • Your explanations/theories of Genetics and Wing-magic got me thinking. You dont supose the reason Scootaloo cant fly, whiles month old Pundcake coud, might be some sort of genetic abnormality in Scoot, giving her wings, but not the magic in the wings to make their small size capable of lifting her? Weve never Seen Scoot´s parents so we have no way of telling if his parents had simular problems. Maby its a inherrited genetic abnormality like Gigiantism or dwarfism?

  • I can't find the Twilight Vectors for the life of me. I search on google and of course on SirPonyLancelot's DA page. Does anyone/anypony/anybrony know how could I get them?

  • It's all done by magic, I guess that's what they really meant by "magic makes it all complete".

  • Very interesting.

  • Doesn't explain how alicorns are ageless. Maybe the telomeres have some kind of repair sequence or something.

    Fine theory btw.

  • Yes... I completely understand what you're saying

    (No I don't)

  • You think your theory is crazy? I'm still holding on to my theory that Celestia is a planeswalker. XD

  • Yay, i tried to work pony genetics out on my own... but failed epically

  • @Bleakverse how did you tried to explain, if it's not too much trouble to you? :)

  • I believe that all ponies are magical and that the magic manifests itself in the cutie mark and in the wings/horns/connection to the ground earth ponies are supposed to have. Pegasus magic allows them to walk on clouds and fly while maintaining a weight and bone density that would allow them to do things that would break bones designed for flying.

  • My theory on how the different types of ponies have magic is that they all have the same amount of magic. But the magic is put in different parts of the body. An Earth pony would mainly have it in the musculatory system, a Pegasus would have their magic in their skeletal system to make their bones light enough to be able to fly. And the Unicorns have their magic in their nervous system, so they could consciously control it. This would mean that the alleles would dominate where the magic is put.

  • HAY! I am not a bad studant.... I'm just kinda derp when it comes to math and since

  • Its interesting because I know another guy who came up with a similar theory, and I have tested it all witch ways and it seems to be valid, It also lines up quite closely to what you said.

    The alicorn is still a toss up. I would like to hear from you about this, because I am fascination by it as well. I cant send links here but if you could send me a message I will gladly give you a link.

  • i see where you went with the genetics. but im not so sure about your theory. but hey its a cartoon right

  • What if alicorns are a separate species altogether, or a subspecies? Sorry about all the separate posts, just things I thought of while watching.

  • It could also be like the lethal white gene in horses, making it rare indeed for one to survive.

  • Maybe alicorns are like tortoiseshell cats--they can only be female usually, but when they are male the male is sterile. This wouldn't explain the rarity, but it would mean that horn and wings are carried on the X chromosome...

  • Tell me about seahorses then... And can a certain dragon mate with ponies?

  • It has been 10+ years or so since my last biology class and yet I recognized the terms and understood it. Fun.

  • And to think, the simple explanation could be that Mrs. Cake is a sluz >_>

  • Very nice video and I like you explanation, just one qestion.... What about Zebras?

  • @SilverAranda Zebras are a completely different species, not a pony.

  • ....and these two ideas leave us with a big question, why don't we see more pegacorns ? My guess is that to be a pegacorn you must be royalty, and someone intervenes with some pones birth to make that happen.

    In the end I believe that the progress of the circle of life of pones is in the lap of some gods.

  • To throw my hat and thoughts into this ring...This is how I see the pony DNA ladder at work. Just like us humans, roots and genetics mixing goes many, many, years back when different ethnic groups would meet and "mingle" due to inevitable expansion. Thus, every pony's DNA roots are mixed and birth will pop out someone with noticeable or subtle mixed genetics.

    And there's the 'evolution' idea, but then there's also magic out work....

  • i'd say if wings can somehow let you walk on clouds, as said in the sonic rainboom ep, they're atleast a little magic.

  • What about dragons?

    I mean Spike has the hots for Rarity, so surly dragon and ponies must do it from time to time!

    Where did Discord come from?

  • @buc555 Doesn't mean anything comes of it.

  • @MixMasterLuffy Where did Discord come from?

  • @buc555 MAGIC. EVERYTHING IS MAGIC. A WIZARD DID IT.

  • I wish i could use my knowledge of physics and chemistry to explain the show.

  • damn, I am not ready for this test

  • Pegasi have to have magic otherwise they wouldn't be able to walk on clouds also just adding another reason why peagasi have magic

  • Aww, High school Bio hours of studying for a passing C!

  • NOW THAT HE HAS SAID IT, IT MUST BE CANON!

    Seriously, makes more sense then anything I'd come up with. I'm tempted to mention One Piece and Fishmen/Merfolk again, but I'm sure no one cares.

  • @Rubberman202 I care if you didn't get that in the last comment i left you.

  • @MixMasterLuffy What comment?

  • Ugh I always hated genetics but I was able follow along. Very interesting. I'll be curious to see what happens when Cadence comes along in Season 3.

  • Genetics is my favorite thing about Bio.

  • Evolution + magic = magic evolution

    That's why griffons. :D

  • @LimeyLassen I'm not sure why I need to even bother explaining anything.

    I mean, it's magic, I ain't gotta explain shit.

  • I like this much better than the "Mrs. Cakes committed adultery" explanation, although I suppose the latter is funnier--maybe that's why it persists so. :|

    It would be interesting to know if the writers thought through the genetics aspect of the show this thoroughly.

  • I'm not geneticist like you or anything, I just though of this reading that audioless part:

    If you have a pegasus who carries horn genes and a unicorn who carries wing genes, like so:

    hhWw x Hhww

    It would be possible for them to have alicorn sons, right? I mean, without the alicorn mother rule (maybe the guy would have the genes but 'alicorniness' wouldn't manifest, or maybe he'd die at birth, only alicorns being able to 'mother' an alicorn)..

    Dunno if any of this makes any sense...

  • @srbrunoaf Yeah, that does seem like it would work. In fact, it would produce a ratio that would actually be higher for alicorns. I'm guessing that there is more to alicorns besides just these two genes though, and that's why we haven't seen them.

  • @srbrunoaf Yeah, the ratio that would produce would actually be evenly spread... 4:4:4:4

  • I didnt know a thing you said at all. ._.

  • I just read My LIttle Dashie, and I cried. You video was cool to.

  • Hey man, thanks for accepting my response ^^

  • According to the mlp wiki Lauren Faust said that pegasi have a certain kind of magic

  • @northenswede Oh, cool! I did not know that she said that.

  • most realistic idea I'l give you that, awsome vid.

  • awww i was actually hoping for you to delve deeper into topics of pony genetics such as magic arising from evolution, even if it's completely personal guess it would be very entertaining

  • this is very informative but realism isn't somthing people should worry too much about in a cartoon,because at the end of the day it is after all a cartoon.But this is a great point.

  • did you get help from your teachers?

  • @darklight436 For this? No.

  • NICE

  • You see, if my teachers would have taught me genetics using ponies, there is no way in hell I would have forgotten any of it.

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