Don't ya just luv all the self-proclaimed science geniuses here who resort to name-calling, profanity and other ad-hominem attacks to detract from any intelligent discourse? fashklash yours is the only substantive commentary on this subject. Indeed, evolutionists need offer no actual evidence for their theory, since they've categorized all rational deductions that point very strongly toward an Intelligent Designer as "unscientific". This bias against taking the evidence where it goes is new.
@BillKiernan Ha! that's funny as hell; look, if evolution was a real scientific theory, it would have established decent quantitative benchmarks; Like: how many links in the evoutionary chain need to be missing before its cosidered a contestable theory? WELL SINCE ITS ASSUMED TRUE, AS MANY AS YOU LIKE. furthermore, there are no known mechanisms that can create specified information without an information source. Look, believe what you want, but don't make it a mandatorily enforced belief
So....the argument against biological evolution (trying to make it sound like a religion by calling it Darwinism) is: we don't get to think we're God's little pets anymore, therefore it must be false. How pathetic.
Evolution can't explain increases in specified genetic information. My distant relative is not a tomato. Get lost you materialist bigots; there's nothing wrong with having a hypothesis but don't pass your fraud wrought philosophy off as an unchalleangable theory akin to gravity or thermodynamics. You're all kooks and you zombies are trying to lead everyone down into the same neo-nazi new world order hole.
@julia3920 Can I ask you a question? If you have a certain number (x number) of poker chips and each chip is made of the same quantity of material, but each one has a different value, would you say your chips are worth (x)?
This is what you are doing when you compare material to information. There are many bright people in this video and one should LOOK at their arguments before throwing them out beforehand. Science is good, but science doesn't have to PROVE ATHEISM to be considered science.
Darwinism is the idea that Natural Selection is the prime and only driving force of evolution, as Darwin stated. It is 150 years behind modern Biology.
this ain't got nothing to do with religion,the fact is everytime the theory of evolution is in trouble the atheist got to bring the spaghetti monster abominations to hide a response with a scientific fact,in other words just cause you don't like the idea of an inteligent force as arrogant as you who have not show up his face (yet) is not going to make your theory a fact with out evidence,and if you have the evidence,why create a fraud?or say you know the answer when you don't?
of course,biology can't be wrong,is perfect science,is evidence of monkey men.. .ohh..uhh..that one was fake,well the drawings of ape turning into a man thats evidence ohh uhh..that one was fake too and im not the one who said it,scientists said it.i guess a few drawings is not real evidence in the science world.dna..ahhh now thats evidence,well like berlinski said,tell me how many steps a wolf takes to turn into a whale,you got the dna right?so you got to know!
thats not the subject,you change the subject again,just like berlinski said,everytime someone challenge the theory the answer is away from the subject,like insults or how a stupid god created everything,the question still there,how come you know some much when you can't even answer one simple question with out changing the subject?
propaganda with drawings,no fossil steps,i check,so im asking again to someone who said "we got the evidence"
so if wikipidia don't have it,you must got it right? so i ask again:how many steps a wolf takes to turn into a whale without the traditional answer of "trillions of years"?if evolution is science without numbers is just a belive system,not a scientific fact as you called it.
"show me the money!" don't tell me you just got it somewhere.
nicknames like little kids called each other are not going to change the subject of you don't have a clue how many steps a wolf takes to turn into a whale,so berlinkski is right,you and the whole evolution movement don't have a fuckin clue how a wolf turn into a whale.
ohh,im sorry..a cow then or a rabbit...my bad but after calling me an idiot i can see thats evidence enough to belive you,who needs math or experiments in a lab? evolution is real cause im an idiot,i guess you are ready to get the nobel price for your findings,congratulations.
I could, but Evolution has all ready been proven, 150 years ago.
LAB Experiment>>>>>>>
ERVs are lingering remnants of failed viral infection, which occurred in an ancestor's sex cell and got propagated in its offspring. The viral insertion site is completely random and finding one in the same location in two individuals indicates they each had that same ancestor. Humans and chimps have 98,000 ERV locations in common. Common ancestor?
and the chimps 98,000 erv has been prove wrong with a apologies from biology studies15 years ago,i can't belive you use that?what you thought im not aware of that?im in math advance algebra,tell that bs to someone who goes to church.the truth is you can't find no fossils with mutations,you don't have a clue how many steps (in numbers)a chimp(or a wolf into a whale)needs for a transformation,you guess it takes a trillion years,thats not a number,where is the fossil?
dude is ok,lets just leave it there ok,you got to understand,this is not personal ok,is just different points of view on this subject,we are educated and we can handle science,i think is some stuff you are over looking as you think i don't understand you.biology for me is just another money maker not a scientific subject,for you is life and the things you learn from the education system,what i belive is a lot of people making money out of this theory,not clean science but propaganda science.
DNA mutates. Base pairs can duplicate themselves, invert themselves (C-G becomes (G-C), swap around with other base pairs, or change over, (So G-C or C-G becomes A-T or T-A) with each subsequent generation.
It's those small genetic mutations that causes larger mutations in the physiology of the species over multiple generations. The most successful genetic mutations reproduce and pass on the mutations more effectively.
so is intelligent design,why that ain't science,cause they can proof who is the designer? you can't even show evidence of how a fuckin wolf turn into a damn whale.
i think you should do the same...if i want to watch cartoons i watch spongebob,not a drawing of a wolf turning into a whale,anybody can make a drawing of how spongebob was patrick once and then he turn into a fucking sponge,but we all know thats just a drawing not a real life size fossil..cmon man...
atheists have a manual to respond to people who don't share their faith,all of them sounds alike,nothing new but the same name calling or personal judgement instead of looking at the evidence,just like a crazy catholic when he see the virgin in his french toast,atheists act the same when they see a dead rackoon and put it in magazines,books and charge 250 dollars for the article.ja
Look up "ERV markers in human and chimp genomes." Look up "MtDNA markers in human and chimp genomes." Look up Australopithicus Afarensis. Look up Homo Habilis. Look up Homo Eragaster. Look up Homo Heidelbergensis. Look up Homo Erectus. Look up out extinct cousins, Homo Neanderthalensis. Look up "Atavisms" Look up "Nylonase producing flavobacterium." Or would that be too much for your stunted creationist intelligence to handle?
i think in your own delusion you are looking for personal not acurate ways to destroy any belives if are not darwinian methoods,just like Francis Galton and the eugenics movement who kill about 20 million jews,Joseph Stalin who kill about 60 million people(hell not even the crusades had 60 million and thats religion).
if monkeys don't turn into humans,what tha hell then is "IDA" or piltdown man,or the ancestors Dawkins claim are your cousins?
I've already told you, Hitler's reasoning behind killing jews had fuck all to do with evolution. Eugenics has fuck all to do with evolution. AS FAR AS EVOLUTION IS CONCERNED, RACE DOESN'T MATTER, NEGRO, ASIAN, CAUCASIAN, WHATEVER, ARE ALL HOMO SAPIENS SAPIENS.
Ida is the common ancestor between dry nosed and wet nosed primates. (Although, the video on your channel calls Ida "Lucy. An Australopithicus Afarensis. Retard.)
You need to seriously go back to school, you don't even fucking understand what evolution is, or how it works, you just disagree with it on religious grounds, like the intellectually devoid religious fanatic you are.
Nor do you understand taxonomy, either. Apes are still monkeys. We are still apes. We are still monkeys (Of the order old world monkeys).
It's clear you've just been fed bullshit by inbred dickheads like Kunt Hovind and Ray Comfort. Dumb shit.
You honestly think the scientific community was fooled by the piltdown man? Haha. No. The public were, when it was published in a tabloid-style magazine.
As for our cousins, I'm assuming you're referring to H.Neanderthalensis?
please,if chimps can't turn into humans,what in the world is IDA?
why do they(evolutionists)call her a distant relative?
why do they call her a missing link?
a link of what?
i think the bullshit you eat at school by a 360 dollars books about trancitional forms clearly have turn your brain into a mush and a victim of a fail education crooks who don't care what tha hell you can learn as long as you pay for their rediculous books.
i start to feel sorry for your monkey ass,but i got over it.
Chimps don't turn into humans. Fuck sake, how much do I need to repeat that?
Chimpanzees and humans share a common ancestor. At some point in our ancestry, us and chimpanzees diverged into two separate species, over millions of years.
I just described what Ida was, and Ida is neither a human, nor a chimpanzee. Do some serious fucking research, dumbass.
Scientists don't call anything a "missing link". That's a phrase used by creationists to make it seem as though the fossil record is useless.
Are you aware of the intense process something has to go through before it can legally be taught in science classes?
Obviously not, you don't seem to be aware of anything, aside from your own religious dogma. Fucking retard.
Like you say, though, "Propaganda isn't science.", so why the fuck is the only video on your account a propaganda video, filled with straw men, quote mines, and a whole plethora of logical fallacies and misinformation? You're thick as shit. End of.
insulting me is not going to make your PERSONAL VIEWS OF LIFE REAL ok!
you can call me all the names in the world and your stupid THEORY(im sorry,is not even your theory anyway) is just a clear alternative for a BELIVE SYSTEM adopted by the racists bastards from the 1800 high WHITHE class who saw the EVOLUTION theory as an excuse to make people belive some races are better than others by natural selection and thats excactly what you doing right now.
Of course it's a clear alternative to a belief system. It requirs absolutely no belief whatsoever, IT'S STRONGLY ROOTED IN EVIDENCE. Evidence that I've listed a selection of, multiple times.
As for racism, LOL! How retarded do you get?
As far as evolution is concerned, whites are Homo Sapiens Sapiens, blacks are Homo Sapiens Sapiens, Asians are Homo Sapiens Sapiens. Genetically we're virtually identical.
so you said it......evolution is a belive system,not an acurate system,is just a plain arrogant religion based on dead fossils and a LOT of imagination to create the next great science fiction movie of all times...THE PLANET OF THE APES.
and as far racism...tell that to the bastards who created eugenics using the natural selection of the superior race over the weak,i did not wrote it so why do i care what evolutionist try to cover their own bullshit.
"Based on dead fossils"? You think fossils are the only line if evidence that supports it? Find me one fucking line of evidence that falsifies it.
It's FUCKING OBVIOUS that you haven't the slightest, slightest fucking clue what evolution is, fucking go away, learn about it, then you'll understand it enough for your dumbfuck statements to hold any meaning.
you contradict everything that is writing in evolutionism books!
you are saying one thing and proffesors in the evolutionism movement say the contrary,
i think atheists are running out of ammunition so the only thing left is to insult the adversary in a personal way like a dumb ass bully in a school yard until the pray gives up based on fear to be beat up,cmon,show some class and debate like a grown up.(if you can).
evolution is dead,was kill by technology not by creationists or zeus or satan or whatever,technology kill it....the so called trancitional forms never happen and never will,the DESIGN don't need a lawyer to defend it when is clear the story or tale about a rock turn into a watch by chance is not only a tale but a disgrace,all you have now is a bunch of proffesors like a use car sales man shoving down your throat some b.s to keep his job and pay his mortage.
You see, this is why I find it so much fun to insult you. Because you're the very embodiment of all that is ignorant about creationists.
You can't even spell "transitional", it's no wonder you've never seen any transitional forms.
Even when you do have a lawyer, you can't defend it. Expelled was filled with bullshit, and the Dover trial ended with creationism getting is ass handed to it.
As for evolution being dead, what the fuck would you know?
You're one of the stupidest, most ignorant people I've ever had the misfortune of knowing exists.
You don't even know what evolution IS, let alone it's validity as an explanation for the biodiversity of life. It's like your little grey cells got fed up and decided to take a holiday to Jupiter.
and about the Dover trail....(like Cyndy Luper used to sign)MONEY,MONEY CHANGES EVERYTHING.
ja,ja,ja
and about the word TRANCITIONAL,i make mistakes you know,im a human bieng,but hell you see me as a chimp,just like you see your mom,dad,brothers,sisters,cousins,hell we just useless animals in your view,but hey,what else can you ask when the bullshit you read comes from racist bastards from the 19th century.
I swear, your parents were related, like... before they were married.
Money had nothing to do with the Dover trial. It was to decide whether "ID" could be taught in science class. It can't, and never will be.
Tell you what, you go off, live in your own little world, completely ignorant to reality. Live in your own little religious fantasy, 'cause I couldn't give a flying fuck. Just don't try spreading your misinformation, your straw men and your quote mines to other people. It's incredibly...
ohh no,of course money ain't got nothing to do with it,as long is in your favor!
if intelligent design wins a trial,i bet you are the first one to say MONEY THE COURT!
some belive in invisible daddys in the sky,some belive KING KONG was a fish first and turn into a t-rex and the t-rex turn into a whale and the whale ect,ect,ect,
the funny thing is what you call "missinformation" is the main target of the atheists agenda,
my parents could be related,is called humans,not chimps.
The more you type, the more you show how little you understand of evolution.
Theropod dinosaurs, such as t-rex were on a COMPLETELY different branch of evolution to whales. Whales are on a COMPLETELY different branch of evolution to apes.
Fish - amphibian - reptile - t-rex
Fish - amphibian - reptile - mammal-like reptile - land mammal - aquatic mammal - cetacean.
Fish - amphibian - reptile - mammal-like reptile - mammal - primate - new world monkey - great ape - hominid - human.
and by the way,i think when you type all that stuff about t-rex or monkeys who once swim with a half tail with legs and gills you sound more as someone who try to convince himself instead of convince others.
you should call somebody and check your brain,cause i think something is not right working in there ok,
good luck with your chimps with human legs and fishes with eagle wings.
atheists belive it because the only alternative is special creation,and that is unthinkable.
those kind of statements leave little to the imagination and make it clear that those who say such things belive in evolution not because of any evidence,but instead because they have made up their minds,a priori,that they are not going to belive in creation.evolution is a simple secular religion-a full fladge alternative to christianity.
You only don't believe there's any evidence that supports if because you don't want there to be any evidence that supports it.
You don't even understand what evolution IS, you keep getting it wrong, claiming it says stuff that it doesn't. How can you be expected to understand any of the evidence that supports it, or even realise the mountain of evidence that supports it, if you don't even understand the theory itself?
Your nonsense holds absolutely no weight at all, you quite...
the same is about you,you don't belive in intelligent design not because of the evidence but just cause we can't show you the designer,so in other words,people like yourself and the elolutionists movement clear don't have the so call evidence to support their own theory so they start making stuff up like "we come from crystals,or we were seeded by aliens or just pure coincidence by a big explosion who came from nothing to everything in perfect order"
so since evolution is a fact,can you give an example of a single genetic mutation process wich can be seen to increase the useful,beneficial information in the genome?
can you document just ONE 100% verifiable transitionary fossil that proves definitively that one species actually change into another completely different species?
if you can answer those questions send them to Dawkins and the evolution movement,they need the answers bad.
100% verifiable gene mutations causing an increase in genetic information:
Nylonase producing flavobacterium.
This strain of flavobacterium digests and metabolises nylon. Nylon has only existed for about 90 years.
The increase of information comes from duplicating the allele that designates what enzymes the flavobaterium produce. This strain was found amongst a lot of waste from a nylon factory, meaning an abundance of nylon was present.
Any mutations in that duplicate allele that allowed...
the flavobacterium to digest nylon would've put that strain of bacteria at a considerable advantage against the population of flavobacterium that couldn't digest lyon, ultimately leading to them becoming outcompeted by those that could produce nylonase.
To suggest that the nylonase producing flavobacterium existed prior to the invention of nylon (A 100% synthetic, man-made material) would be absurd, because the flavobacterium would've been unable to metabolise, and would've died out.
There are multiple ways that information can increase within a genetic code. Here's two of them;
1) One of the ways genetic code mutates can cause duplicates of base pairs or sections of base pairs to duplicate themselves. This leaves the duplicate available for further mutation.
2) ERV (Endogenous retroviruses) infect their host by intergrating their own genome into their host's genome, so the host copies the ERV's genetic code as it copies its own genetic code...
The ERV's genetic code becomes a permanent part of the host's genome, and is passed to all subsequent generations. If the virus is benign, or the symptoms are treatable, then that means that every generation after the initial host, will also have the ERV's genetic code integrated into their own.
For example.
A section of the host's genome:
AGTCCGCTA
TCAGGCGAT
The ERV's genome:
GCTTGC
CGAACG
The same section of the host's genome, after the ERV intergrates itself.
The ERV's genome wil now act as a part of the host's genome, and will be copied along with it. It will also mutate, itself. You see, the host's genome's information has now increased by 6 base pairs?
in other words the information increased by 6% out of a 100%.
wow,what a big change!
you are right,but thats not enough to change the genetic code but just altered in what i might add "not a positive way",in other words the host is contaminated instead,not fix or better.thats mutation not transformation.
The host is contaminated with the ERV at first, but the ERV is free to mutate as the generations pass. It can, and does, become part of the host's genome.
Either way, of course it's not much, evolution takes time.
Look.
It's painfully, painfully obvious that you have no idea what you're on about. Do yourself a favor and throw your keyboard out the window, before you make even more of an arse of yourself.
do yourself a favor and get some updates for the old books your are reading and see for yourself the same conflict you and i are having right now over this theory is the same that is going on in the evolution movement by Dawkins,Behe,ect,ect.
even evolutionists disagree with the stuff you just type with your keyboard to me on this page,so if they(proffesionals in the field)can't understand what they claim,how come you call it FACTS! when is clear a THEORY?
All professional fields that deal with evolution, such as biology, paleontology or anthropology, all accept evolution as it is.
I suppose gravity is "just a theory" too, or germ "theory", what a load of nonsense.
Theories, in a scientific context are very different to theories in common usages of the word.
Stop trying to make out as if there schism within the scientific community. Everyone in the scientific community that understands evolution accepts it, whether you like it or not.
You want to call me lazy, yet I've done hours and hours and hours of research, from many different, impartial and neutral sources, on what evolution is, I've studied the evidence for it, and the evidence against it. The latter of which, there is none. Whereas you're some brainwashed religious fanatic, too arrogant and/or lazy to do genuine research and study.
Talking with you is about as intellectually stimulating as talking with a dead rabbit.
gravity is a fact,evolution for 150 years still a theory,today still a theory because the more you dig the more clear it gets that evolution is not only a simple elegant theory but no evidence to support it,thats the problem,a 150 years ago Darwin did not had the technology we have today,in other words from a simple cell now you have a factory working the size of a flea,the problem some people think the more they keep feeding the lie the sooner people will acept it.
to make it clear is just absurd to compare gravity with evolution,gravity is science,evolution is propaganda to sale a fail theory who is becoming more evident to be just a simple tale about life with nothing to offer but the simple plasure to insult anybody who don't go with the program,an atheist religion,thats why is soo important,but besides that whats the point."the only thing Darwinism have gave us is a bunch of racists with eugenics and a bunch of bullies called atheists.wow thats great!
I can go one better and show you a series of transitional fossils. Hyracotherium. Epihippus. Mesohippus. Miohippus Parahippus. Hipparion. Pliohippus Dinohippus Plesippus Finally, modern horse.
since atheists are quick to point out that the evolution THEORY only involves the suppositions of the evolutionary processes of living things,how does evolution deal with the appearance of the atom and its quantum particles?
after all-atoms are NON-LIVING yet they are the substance of everything that is living and non-living.
how matter has originated and evolved?
the simplest of life infinitely more complex to say "just happen"
A theory, when used in a scientific context, is the best explanation we have for a series of facts.
Evolution explains the biodiversity of life on Earth perfectly, no evidence we have contradicts it, and all evidence we have supports it. However, there is the potential for evidence to falsify it, such as finding human fossils cuddled up with t-rex fossils, or a reptile with mammary glands. Good luck finding anything that will falsify it.
what's amazing to me, is that these men claim the death of ethics through progressive evolutionary thinking, leading to events like the holocaust and eugenics. So, the only thing holding the reigns for them not to commit heinous acts is the words (assuming they're christian) of a 2000-year-old-book? They display through this either they're hatred for others, or, more likely, their blind stubborness to adapt to a scientific system that causes cognitive dissonance with their religious background.
Oh look, some nutjobs took a concept and used it to justify murder. People do that with religion to. I don't really get the point of this part of the film. The guy at the end needs to look into the facts. Atheists are under-represented in prison and more religious countries have higher crime-rates. Abortion and euthanasia are nothing to do with 'Darwinism'. Its actually a moral empathy for others that leads to support for these things.
I'd also like to add that our brains really are just a bunch of neurons firing... but that doesn't take away any meaning because neuroscience really doesn't know that much about how the hell millions of little messages come together to make a life's story for each individual...there's still a lot more to be learned and a lot of amazing discoveries to be made that'll find that there's much more meaning to our biological functions than it seems at the present
they're absolutely right about the relation between darwinism and any genocide... darwin got a lot of his ideas from watching people breed for traits, artificial selection, which is what genocide is.. trying to breed a superior human being by eradicating all the "bad" genes... however, it is not darwinism itself, but a way of thinking similar to darwinian theory that's been around for thousands of years
Actually "Man is a useless passion" is according to Jean-Paul Sartre, the originator of the phrase, and it has serious, honest philosophical implications when one realizes that a supreme being is a fairy tale.
couldn't the abandonment of slavery be considered moral relativism? how about humane treatment for the mentally ill? women not treated as chattel? civil rights for minorities? I could go on, but my point is that decrying moral relativism as a course towards the implosion of western civ is a bit on the chicken little side, don't you think?
these are the kinds of people who we need to keep believing in god, sounds like they would do some bad shit if they didnt think they would go to hell for it.
me on the other hand i dont do that stuff because it makes me feel good to be a good person. no bribes like heaven or anything
say what you want, but there is a link between ideas and consequences, and there is an historical link between Darwining modern thought and the tragedies of WW2---
see this is why i get so dumbfounded when i hear that. hitler attacked a religious group, he made every nazi soldier wear something that said "god with us" or something like that.
his ethnic cleansing had nothing to do with darwins teachings but more with biblical ethnic cleansing.
if you would onyl pile up the wars fought for christianity and the wars fought for atheism you would see.
if he went by darwins teachings he would go after africans first, not intelligent jews
hitler attacked the jews cause he assumed they weren't of the superiority race as the Germans where, and justified it by using the anti semitism of Luther (nothing to do with Christianity at all)- wars fought in name of Christianity doesn't mean Christianity itself is bad duuuuuuh, learn your history, learn about hiTLER, IHE SAW IN dARWINISM something a social outlook of races, where some where further along evolved than others, and claimed the Germans to be so---learrrrn youuuuur history
trust me his scientists were the best in the world at the time, they would of been able to see that the jews were one of the better races(no im not jewish i just know this)
and yes it doesnt mean christianity itself is bad "duuuuuuh" it mean religious beliefs are dangerous and can lead a person to do horrible acts just because he thinks hes carrying out the work of his god.
his genocide was more like biblical genocide rather than genetic genocide.
no no you're wrong man, hitler saw religion as useful to his prerogatives, but when it was not useful to him he eradicated the religious (Dietrich Bonhoeffer being one of them), religion is only dangerous if it's claims are- Christianity's claims for the specific Christian are absolute pacifism- preaching grace and love of God and suffering for the christian due to the world's rejection of such a counter cultural message- Hitler was a politician not a man of faith
"hitler saw religion as useful to his prerogatives" -CSoul781
me:can you provide some proof for this?
"but when it was not useful to him he eradicated the religious" -CSoul781
me: did he eradicate his religions followers or anothers? because if he was catholic killing jews it really really seems like biblical sterilization. you know its been happening to jews for thousands of years?
me:did he mention darwin or god in his diaries? how can you be mistaken?
Wow... utterly pathetic. Nothing but bias claims from a hateful religious perspective.
Ironic how Ben Stein acts as though evolution is a racist and terrible idea... when, in ancient times, the early jewish culture included stoning people to death, and keeping slavery (enslaving people from other countries), and also sees himself as a member of a divinely chosen race...
Oh, and everytime they say "Darwinism", they deserve a "fail" sound like the buzzer of a gameshow.
seriously i get very confused why they call it darwinism. is it so they can still pretend its pre decoding of DNA era? because if theres any religious people listening out there. the human race has decoded DNA for the first time in the 1970's and the argument is over, lets not be sore losers about this and make up lies.
However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)
How is this point an argument against Darwinism influencing Marxism and the Nazis? No one denies that slavery, in various forms, existed throughout history. The slavery in the Old Testament seems to resemble serfdom or indentured servitude, not the violent chattel slavery of the 17th and 18th centuries. But, again, what does this have to do with intelligent design and Darwinism?
"If we are creatures of Matter" We ARE creatures of Matter! What did you think we were made of? Ectoplasm? Fairy dust?
"Engineer human culture" I have no clue what he means by that. You mean, create human culture ourselves as opposed to letting dogs build our buildings, design our laws and develop our languages?
"While I would never want to indite a Scientific Theory for the way someone might misuse it"
Here we go
"(whatever he said about "Lower")"
What, like being made of clay?
"In Darwinism... persons"
First of all, what do you mean by Dawinism? Do you mean the theory of Evolution or do you mean Social Darwinism whoch was actually invented by Herbert Spencer? Second, You don't find being the result of a long successfull process of Evolution to be "Dignified"?
"Do you think there could have been... without Darwinism?" Well, let's see; has there ever been anyone who hated the Jews before 1859? Is Hitler the first German religious fanatic who blatantly advocated the extermination of the Jews and tried to create his own religion?
"...Darwinian Rationalle" Seems to me, burning Darwin's books is an odd thing for someone who based his politics on Darwin's teachings to do.
"...unsavoury" Wait a minute, wither what de described is the inherant result of what happens without being threatened with hellfire, or everyone would find it unsavoury. Which is it?
Religion(s) of all kinds have been used throughout human history for all forms of evils --- human sacrifice, tribal wars, the inquisition, witch burnings, pillaging of the Americas, slavery, etc. etc. --- Atheism, not so much.
And the notion of racial superiority is as old as humanity itself. For my degree I am studying colonial Latin America and the Spanish clearly thought themselves as racially superior to the Indians. There was a very influential CATHOLIC school of thought that said Indians had NO INHERENT HUMAN DIGNITY and thus slavery was justified. See Juan De Supulvada and the Valladolid debate.
How many times is Darwin mentioned in Mein Kampf? not once, how many times is evolution? once and then it is in the context of a evolving political systems. How many times does Hitler refer to God? 42
Atheism is a belief and religion in itself. Although most don't look at it like that. There is more to the world than science, and that is experience. Where Science says "how" religion says "why". Something that science cannot answer. It is a much deeper question than just how does the toy work, let us find out why.
Can-Can = Dancer.
How many cans can a Can-Can can, if a Can-Can can can cans?
Entropy56 4 months ago
Don't ya just luv all the self-proclaimed science geniuses here who resort to name-calling, profanity and other ad-hominem attacks to detract from any intelligent discourse? fashklash yours is the only substantive commentary on this subject. Indeed, evolutionists need offer no actual evidence for their theory, since they've categorized all rational deductions that point very strongly toward an Intelligent Designer as "unscientific". This bias against taking the evidence where it goes is new.
minionman131 1 year ago
this is one kick butt movie
nunogonewild 1 year ago
@BillKiernan Ha! that's funny as hell; look, if evolution was a real scientific theory, it would have established decent quantitative benchmarks; Like: how many links in the evoutionary chain need to be missing before its cosidered a contestable theory? WELL SINCE ITS ASSUMED TRUE, AS MANY AS YOU LIKE. furthermore, there are no known mechanisms that can create specified information without an information source. Look, believe what you want, but don't make it a mandatorily enforced belief
fashklash 1 year ago
So....the argument against biological evolution (trying to make it sound like a religion by calling it Darwinism) is: we don't get to think we're God's little pets anymore, therefore it must be false. How pathetic.
youngmastermatt 1 year ago
Evolution can't explain increases in specified genetic information. My distant relative is not a tomato. Get lost you materialist bigots; there's nothing wrong with having a hypothesis but don't pass your fraud wrought philosophy off as an unchalleangable theory akin to gravity or thermodynamics. You're all kooks and you zombies are trying to lead everyone down into the same neo-nazi new world order hole.
fashklash 2 years ago
@fashklash yes, we are actually reptillians and members of the rothchilds. pray for your magic god to smite us all.
BillKiernan 1 year ago
@fashklash increased genetic variety in a population (Lenski 1995; Lenski et al. 1991)
increased genetic material (Alves et al. 2001; Brown et al. 1998; Hughes and Friedman 2003; Lynch and Conery 2000; Ohta 2003)
novel genetic material (Knox et al. 1996; Park et al. 1996)
novel genetically-regulated abilities (Prijambada et al. 1995)
you were saying?
julia3920 1 year ago
@julia3920 Can I ask you a question? If you have a certain number (x number) of poker chips and each chip is made of the same quantity of material, but each one has a different value, would you say your chips are worth (x)?
This is what you are doing when you compare material to information. There are many bright people in this video and one should LOOK at their arguments before throwing them out beforehand. Science is good, but science doesn't have to PROVE ATHEISM to be considered science.
fashklash 1 year ago
@fashklash no i would say the chips are worth X with x number of chips. First year statistics.
You were saying?
julia3920 1 year ago
Just because you don't like the consequences of something, doesn't mean it's false.
TheMetalHead102 2 years ago
Darwinism is the idea that Natural Selection is the prime and only driving force of evolution, as Darwin stated. It is 150 years behind modern Biology.
gregrutz 2 years ago
Hitler was a christian.
gregrutz 2 years ago
These are all christians and their fucked up views, why don't they ask a Dawinienistinist.?
gregrutz 2 years ago
this ain't got nothing to do with religion,the fact is everytime the theory of evolution is in trouble the atheist got to bring the spaghetti monster abominations to hide a response with a scientific fact,in other words just cause you don't like the idea of an inteligent force as arrogant as you who have not show up his face (yet) is not going to make your theory a fact with out evidence,and if you have the evidence,why create a fraud?or say you know the answer when you don't?
breedofthe45 2 years ago
evolution has already been proven. the evidence is there, where have you been?
gregrutz 2 years ago
propaganda is not evidence.
breedofthe45 2 years ago
Correct, Ben's propaganda and creationist's BS are not evidence.
Fossils are evidence.
Geology is evidence.
DNA is evidence.
gregrutz 2 years ago
of course,biology can't be wrong,is perfect science,is evidence of monkey men.. .ohh..uhh..that one was fake,well the drawings of ape turning into a man thats evidence ohh uhh..that one was fake too and im not the one who said it,scientists said it.i guess a few drawings is not real evidence in the science world.dna..ahhh now thats evidence,well like berlinski said,tell me how many steps a wolf takes to turn into a whale,you got the dna right?so you got to know!
or is just propaganda.
breedofthe45 2 years ago
They found the transitional whale fossils, they know how many steps it took.
The drawings are for slow people with little imagination, it is not the proof.
gregrutz 2 years ago
HOW MANY STEPS TAKES?remember i will check,i got a computer you know..
breedofthe45 2 years ago
You have a computer!?! I would have never guessed. Isn't science wonderful.
gregrutz 2 years ago
thats not the subject,you change the subject again,just like berlinski said,everytime someone challenge the theory the answer is away from the subject,like insults or how a stupid god created everything,the question still there,how come you know some much when you can't even answer one simple question with out changing the subject?
breedofthe45 2 years ago
Wikipedia...........Evolution_of_cetaceans
gregrutz 2 years ago
propaganda with drawings,no fossil steps,i check,so im asking again to someone who said "we got the evidence"
so if wikipidia don't have it,you must got it right? so i ask again:how many steps a wolf takes to turn into a whale without the traditional answer of "trillions of years"?if evolution is science without numbers is just a belive system,not a scientific fact as you called it.
"show me the money!" don't tell me you just got it somewhere.
breedofthe45 2 years ago
Evolution has been proven
Sorry you are too stupid to find any, it does not change the facts.
gregrutz 2 years ago
nicknames like little kids called each other are not going to change the subject of you don't have a clue how many steps a wolf takes to turn into a whale,so berlinkski is right,you and the whole evolution movement don't have a fuckin clue how a wolf turn into a whale.
breedofthe45 2 years ago
Pakicetus ->
Ambulocetus ->
Rhodocetus->
Basilosaurus ->
Protocetus ->
Indocetus ->
Prozeuglodon ->
Eocetus->
Modern Whales
gregrutz 2 years ago
whales did not evolve from a wolf, IDiot.
gregrutz 2 years ago
ohh,im sorry..a cow then or a rabbit...my bad but after calling me an idiot i can see thats evidence enough to belive you,who needs math or experiments in a lab? evolution is real cause im an idiot,i guess you are ready to get the nobel price for your findings,congratulations.
breedofthe45 2 years ago
I could, but Evolution has all ready been proven, 150 years ago.
LAB Experiment>>>>>>>
ERVs are lingering remnants of failed viral infection, which occurred in an ancestor's sex cell and got propagated in its offspring. The viral insertion site is completely random and finding one in the same location in two individuals indicates they each had that same ancestor. Humans and chimps have 98,000 ERV locations in common. Common ancestor?
gregrutz 2 years ago
so is God...your point?
and the chimps 98,000 erv has been prove wrong with a apologies from biology studies15 years ago,i can't belive you use that?what you thought im not aware of that?im in math advance algebra,tell that bs to someone who goes to church.the truth is you can't find no fossils with mutations,you don't have a clue how many steps (in numbers)a chimp(or a wolf into a whale)needs for a transformation,you guess it takes a trillion years,thats not a number,where is the fossil?
breedofthe45 2 years ago
you can't find no fossils with mutations
DNA mutates, not fossils.
search whale evolution to see the fossils you can't seem to find.
gregrutz 2 years ago
dna mutates,not the fossil??
ja,ja,ja,ja,ja,ja
so what tha fuck is evolution then?
i thought the fossil was the biggest proof of evolution?
ja,ja,ja,ja
you are contradicting your own theory.
this is madness.
dude you are not helping the evolution movement with that comment,
if you are running out of material i sugest you stop right now,please for the sake of the millions of teachers who are teaching this b.s..
breedofthe45 2 years ago
There is so much proof for evolution that we don't need the fossils to prove it.
And you don't know enough about evolution to know what I am talking about.
DNA produces variation in animals and plants.
Natural selection directs evolution by picking the best variation.
And please tell me why they teach it in school.
gregrutz 2 years ago
dude is ok,lets just leave it there ok,you got to understand,this is not personal ok,is just different points of view on this subject,we are educated and we can handle science,i think is some stuff you are over looking as you think i don't understand you.biology for me is just another money maker not a scientific subject,for you is life and the things you learn from the education system,what i belive is a lot of people making money out of this theory,not clean science but propaganda science.
breedofthe45 2 years ago
Sorry, but Biology is science too.
I don't know any rich Biologists, they probibly work for a drug company.
There is no plot.
Geology proves YECs wrong, not biology.
gregrutz 2 years ago
whatever helps you sleep at night man,whatever helps you......................
breedofthe45 2 years ago
DNA mutates. Base pairs can duplicate themselves, invert themselves (C-G becomes (G-C), swap around with other base pairs, or change over, (So G-C or C-G becomes A-T or T-A) with each subsequent generation.
It's those small genetic mutations that causes larger mutations in the physiology of the species over multiple generations. The most successful genetic mutations reproduce and pass on the mutations more effectively.
Vehementi 2 years ago
Gregutz.
but wiat...in another comments you said the exact opposite...which is it?
Now the fossils are NOT proof?
When DNA mutates, it is deadly, not helpful.
Not on fossil ever proved in anyway shape or form that evolution ever took place.
The logical conclusion is NOT a common ancestor but a common designer.
3gdosrsfs 2 years ago
Fossils are not needed to prove evolution, there is enough other evidence that proves it happened.
Fossils still show how we evolved.
ID = Creationism = bible story
gregrutz 2 years ago
He was saying fossils were not NEEDED to verify evolution, not that they don't.
We have other lines of independent evidence that point to the same conclusion.
Atavisms.
Chromosomal fusion in human chromosome #2.
ERV markers in human and chimp genomes.
MtDNA markers.
Nylonase producing flavobacterium.
The list goes on.
ALL lines of evidence we have, no matter how unrelated it is to the other lines of evidence, points towards common ancestry.
Vehementi 2 years ago
so is intelligent design,why that ain't science,cause they can proof who is the designer? you can't even show evidence of how a fuckin wolf turn into a damn whale.
breedofthe45 2 years ago
see the box to the left of the word SEARCH type Whale Evolution in it and press enter.
gregrutz 2 years ago
i think you should do the same...if i want to watch cartoons i watch spongebob,not a drawing of a wolf turning into a whale,anybody can make a drawing of how spongebob was patrick once and then he turn into a fucking sponge,but we all know thats just a drawing not a real life size fossil..cmon man...
breedofthe45 2 years ago
stay in school, read a science book.
gregrutz 2 years ago
ID = creationism = bible story
No proof , not science.
gregrutz 2 years ago
no evidence= evolution
belive in me= darwin
belive=faith
faith=bullshit
darwin=bullshit
breedofthe45 2 years ago
Just because some people are stupid and can't see the piles of evidence for evolution, does not make it wrong.
evolution=happened
Darwin=showed how
Science=Biology+geology
believe=no proof=religion
gregrutz 2 years ago
nicknames= no evidence
darwin= no evidence
science=math (with no numbers is useless)
breedofthe45 2 years ago
Are you just stupid or what?
"truth is you can't find no fossils with mutations"
What does that have to do with evolution?
gregrutz 2 years ago
calling names is not going to make your theory a fact.without the mutations..is no scientific fact!
how you know then how the prosess is done? how do you know if these mutations took place?
let me guess,i have to take your word for?
my friend,thats called "belive" just like belive in the spaghetti monster.
will should called "the spaghetti ape monster"then after trillions of years of evolution he turn into the meatballs man monster".
breedofthe45 2 years ago
I didn't call you any names, I just pointed out a fact, You are stupid and don't know shit about science.
gregrutz 2 years ago
Agreed.
It's obvious he takes his science lessons at sunday school, probably never actually set foot in a legit science class.
Vehementi 2 years ago
please!!!!
sunday school???
you think im a catholic?
ja,ja,ja......so im a creationist?
im a radical islam???
atheists have a manual to respond to people who don't share their faith,all of them sounds alike,nothing new but the same name calling or personal judgement instead of looking at the evidence,just like a crazy catholic when he see the virgin in his french toast,atheists act the same when they see a dead rackoon and put it in magazines,books and charge 250 dollars for the article.ja
breedofthe45 2 years ago
Alternatively, you have no fucking clue what you're on about.
"Dead raccoon" wtf?
Vehementi 2 years ago
oohh..my bad..i forgot....some people are slow!!!
"THE FOSSIL OF A RACKOON"
better?
breedofthe45 2 years ago
I know what you meant.
I just fail to see the relevance.
Fucking dumbass creationists.
Vehementi 2 years ago
insulting me is not going to turn the chimps into human biengs, darwinian bastard.
breedofthe45 2 years ago
Twat.
Evolution doesn't claim that chimps should ever turn into human beings.
You don't even fucking understand evolution, if you think it says that has ever happened, or ever will happen.
Look up "Chromosomal fusion in human chromosome #2."
Vehementi 2 years ago
Vehementi 2 years ago
i think in your own delusion you are looking for personal not acurate ways to destroy any belives if are not darwinian methoods,just like Francis Galton and the eugenics movement who kill about 20 million jews,Joseph Stalin who kill about 60 million people(hell not even the crusades had 60 million and thats religion).
if monkeys don't turn into humans,what tha hell then is "IDA" or piltdown man,or the ancestors Dawkins claim are your cousins?
so make your minds up already!
breedofthe45 2 years ago
I've already told you, Hitler's reasoning behind killing jews had fuck all to do with evolution. Eugenics has fuck all to do with evolution. AS FAR AS EVOLUTION IS CONCERNED, RACE DOESN'T MATTER, NEGRO, ASIAN, CAUCASIAN, WHATEVER, ARE ALL HOMO SAPIENS SAPIENS.
Ida is the common ancestor between dry nosed and wet nosed primates. (Although, the video on your channel calls Ida "Lucy. An Australopithicus Afarensis. Retard.)
Vehementi 2 years ago
You need to seriously go back to school, you don't even fucking understand what evolution is, or how it works, you just disagree with it on religious grounds, like the intellectually devoid religious fanatic you are.
Nor do you understand taxonomy, either. Apes are still monkeys. We are still apes. We are still monkeys (Of the order old world monkeys).
It's clear you've just been fed bullshit by inbred dickheads like Kunt Hovind and Ray Comfort. Dumb shit.
Vehementi 2 years ago
You honestly think the scientific community was fooled by the piltdown man? Haha. No. The public were, when it was published in a tabloid-style magazine.
As for our cousins, I'm assuming you're referring to H.Neanderthalensis?
We share a common ancestor, H. Erectus.
Vehementi 2 years ago
please,if chimps can't turn into humans,what in the world is IDA?
why do they(evolutionists)call her a distant relative?
why do they call her a missing link?
a link of what?
i think the bullshit you eat at school by a 360 dollars books about trancitional forms clearly have turn your brain into a mush and a victim of a fail education crooks who don't care what tha hell you can learn as long as you pay for their rediculous books.
i start to feel sorry for your monkey ass,but i got over it.
breedofthe45 2 years ago
Chimps don't turn into humans. Fuck sake, how much do I need to repeat that?
Chimpanzees and humans share a common ancestor. At some point in our ancestry, us and chimpanzees diverged into two separate species, over millions of years.
I just described what Ida was, and Ida is neither a human, nor a chimpanzee. Do some serious fucking research, dumbass.
Scientists don't call anything a "missing link". That's a phrase used by creationists to make it seem as though the fossil record is useless.
Vehementi 2 years ago
Are you aware of the intense process something has to go through before it can legally be taught in science classes?
Obviously not, you don't seem to be aware of anything, aside from your own religious dogma. Fucking retard.
Like you say, though, "Propaganda isn't science.", so why the fuck is the only video on your account a propaganda video, filled with straw men, quote mines, and a whole plethora of logical fallacies and misinformation? You're thick as shit. End of.
Vehementi 2 years ago
ohhh...so the missing link is just BULLSHIT ahh?
what happen to the trancitional forms?
what happen with the fish turn into a wolf bullcrap Dawkins brag soooo much about?
i think the retard is Dawkins cause you just CONTRADICT everything he wrote in his books..who do i have to belive? you or dawkins?
i feel sorry for your student ass when a proffesor name Dawkins based his whole carrer on half chimps half humans tales...
do you know what propaganda is?
is bullshit supported by scientists.
breedofthe45 2 years ago
You're one misguided, dumbass prick, aren't you?
EVERY ANIMAL THAT DIDN'T BECOME EXTINCT IS A TRANSITIONAL SPECIES.
Look. It's really, really, fucking obvious you haven't the slightest fucking clue what evolution is. "Half fish half wolf", wtf?
Do you mean prehistoric amphibians? Reptiles? Mammal-like reptiles?
You fucking expect a fish to magically give birth to a wolf, for fuck sake. You're at the very height of retardation.
Vehementi 2 years ago
and you are some piece of work!
insulting me is not going to make your PERSONAL VIEWS OF LIFE REAL ok!
you can call me all the names in the world and your stupid THEORY(im sorry,is not even your theory anyway) is just a clear alternative for a BELIVE SYSTEM adopted by the racists bastards from the 1800 high WHITHE class who saw the EVOLUTION theory as an excuse to make people belive some races are better than others by natural selection and thats excactly what you doing right now.
jew killers
breedofthe45 2 years ago
Haha, you're useless.
Of course it's a clear alternative to a belief system. It requirs absolutely no belief whatsoever, IT'S STRONGLY ROOTED IN EVIDENCE. Evidence that I've listed a selection of, multiple times.
As for racism, LOL! How retarded do you get?
As far as evolution is concerned, whites are Homo Sapiens Sapiens, blacks are Homo Sapiens Sapiens, Asians are Homo Sapiens Sapiens. Genetically we're virtually identical.
Vehementi 2 years ago
Blacks = more resistant to the harmful effects of the Sun.
Caucasians = Lighter irises (Blues and greens.), means Caucasians can generally adjust to changes in light easier.
The more diverse a species is, the fitter that species is. As they can interbreed, and ultimately share their strengths. You're one dumb shit.
Vehementi 2 years ago
so you said it......evolution is a belive system,not an acurate system,is just a plain arrogant religion based on dead fossils and a LOT of imagination to create the next great science fiction movie of all times...THE PLANET OF THE APES.
and as far racism...tell that to the bastards who created eugenics using the natural selection of the superior race over the weak,i did not wrote it so why do i care what evolutionist try to cover their own bullshit.
breedofthe45 2 years ago
A clear ALTERNATIVE to a belief system.
Dumb fuck.
"Based on dead fossils"? You think fossils are the only line if evidence that supports it? Find me one fucking line of evidence that falsifies it.
It's FUCKING OBVIOUS that you haven't the slightest, slightest fucking clue what evolution is, fucking go away, learn about it, then you'll understand it enough for your dumbfuck statements to hold any meaning.
Vehementi 2 years ago
and again with the nicknames..
how old are you?
4?
learn about what?
you contradict everything that is writing in evolutionism books!
you are saying one thing and proffesors in the evolutionism movement say the contrary,
i think atheists are running out of ammunition so the only thing left is to insult the adversary in a personal way like a dumb ass bully in a school yard until the pray gives up based on fear to be beat up,cmon,show some class and debate like a grown up.(if you can).
breedofthe45 2 years ago
How am I contradicting what professors, or the textbooks (And by extension, the evidence) says?
Go and learn what evolution is.
I mean, from genuine, impartial, reputable sources, not what creationist propaganda machines, like the convicted fraudster Kent Hovind, says.
Vehementi 2 years ago
I don't see why I should try and hold a decent debate with someone who doesn't even know understand what it is they're trying to refute.
Vehementi 2 years ago
or*
Vehementi 2 years ago
creationists?
a new nickname?
evolution is dead,was kill by technology not by creationists or zeus or satan or whatever,technology kill it....the so called trancitional forms never happen and never will,the DESIGN don't need a lawyer to defend it when is clear the story or tale about a rock turn into a watch by chance is not only a tale but a disgrace,all you have now is a bunch of proffesors like a use car sales man shoving down your throat some b.s to keep his job and pay his mortage.
breedofthe45 2 years ago
You see, this is why I find it so much fun to insult you. Because you're the very embodiment of all that is ignorant about creationists.
You can't even spell "transitional", it's no wonder you've never seen any transitional forms.
Even when you do have a lawyer, you can't defend it. Expelled was filled with bullshit, and the Dover trial ended with creationism getting is ass handed to it.
Vehementi 2 years ago
The only time something is NOT a transitional species, is when it's an evolutionary dead end.
Everything alive today is a transitional species. Everything in all of life's ancestry was a transitional species.
Don't blame me if you're too ignorant to understand, or too arrogant to try and learn.
You're scum. Enf of.
Vehementi 2 years ago
As for evolution being dead, what the fuck would you know?
You're one of the stupidest, most ignorant people I've ever had the misfortune of knowing exists.
You don't even know what evolution IS, let alone it's validity as an explanation for the biodiversity of life. It's like your little grey cells got fed up and decided to take a holiday to Jupiter.
Vehementi 2 years ago
ohh,you think i care if you insult me?
ja,ja,ja
and about the Dover trail....(like Cyndy Luper used to sign)MONEY,MONEY CHANGES EVERYTHING.
ja,ja,ja
and about the word TRANCITIONAL,i make mistakes you know,im a human bieng,but hell you see me as a chimp,just like you see your mom,dad,brothers,sisters,cousins,hell we just useless animals in your view,but hey,what else can you ask when the bullshit you read comes from racist bastards from the 19th century.
breedofthe45 2 years ago
I swear, your parents were related, like... before they were married.
Money had nothing to do with the Dover trial. It was to decide whether "ID" could be taught in science class. It can't, and never will be.
Tell you what, you go off, live in your own little world, completely ignorant to reality. Live in your own little religious fantasy, 'cause I couldn't give a flying fuck. Just don't try spreading your misinformation, your straw men and your quote mines to other people. It's incredibly...
Vehementi 2 years ago
...dishonest.
Vehementi 2 years ago
ohh no,of course money ain't got nothing to do with it,as long is in your favor!
if intelligent design wins a trial,i bet you are the first one to say MONEY THE COURT!
some belive in invisible daddys in the sky,some belive KING KONG was a fish first and turn into a t-rex and the t-rex turn into a whale and the whale ect,ect,ect,
the funny thing is what you call "missinformation" is the main target of the atheists agenda,
my parents could be related,is called humans,not chimps.
breedofthe45 2 years ago
See?
The more you type, the more you show how little you understand of evolution.
Theropod dinosaurs, such as t-rex were on a COMPLETELY different branch of evolution to whales. Whales are on a COMPLETELY different branch of evolution to apes.
Fish - amphibian - reptile - t-rex
Fish - amphibian - reptile - mammal-like reptile - land mammal - aquatic mammal - cetacean.
Fish - amphibian - reptile - mammal-like reptile - mammal - primate - new world monkey - great ape - hominid - human.
Vehementi 2 years ago
We have fossils from ALL of those stages mentioned above.
The older a species is (As predicted by evolution) the older their fossils are.
It tessellates perfectly.
Fuck off and learn what evolution actually is, before claiming it says stuff that it fucking doesn't. Fuck sake, fucking retard.
Vehementi 2 years ago
all religions have a story!
yours is just a horror movie plot,
and by the way,i think when you type all that stuff about t-rex or monkeys who once swim with a half tail with legs and gills you sound more as someone who try to convince himself instead of convince others.
you should call somebody and check your brain,cause i think something is not right working in there ok,
good luck with your chimps with human legs and fishes with eagle wings.
breedofthe45 2 years ago
Science isn't a religion. It's a process for determining FACTS about the universe we live in, to put into practical use to advance mankind.
You clearly don't have the slightest fucking clue what you're on about.
"T-rex monkeys who once swim with half a tail with legs and gills"
"good luck with your chimps with human legs and fishes with eagle wings. "
Seriously, if you had the foggiest what evolution was, you'd realise how retarded you are saying shit like that.
Vehementi 2 years ago
You're one seriously, seriously stupid cunt.
Evolution has NEVER predicted ANY of the bullshit you're spouting out.
I assure you, my brain functions as it should, yours, however, seems to be somewhat absent altogether.
Piss off.
Go and LEARN what evolution actually is, you inbred, thalidomide child, before you make even more of a donkey's arse out of yourself.
Vehementi 2 years ago
evolution is unproved and unprovoble.
atheists belive it because the only alternative is special creation,and that is unthinkable.
those kind of statements leave little to the imagination and make it clear that those who say such things belive in evolution not because of any evidence,but instead because they have made up their minds,a priori,that they are not going to belive in creation.evolution is a simple secular religion-a full fladge alternative to christianity.
breedofthe45 2 years ago
Um, no.
You only don't believe there's any evidence that supports if because you don't want there to be any evidence that supports it.
You don't even understand what evolution IS, you keep getting it wrong, claiming it says stuff that it doesn't. How can you be expected to understand any of the evidence that supports it, or even realise the mountain of evidence that supports it, if you don't even understand the theory itself?
Your nonsense holds absolutely no weight at all, you quite...
Vehementi 2 years ago
literally have absolutely no clue what you're on about. It's just nonsensical babble, with no meaning, or reason behind it.
Vehementi 2 years ago
the same is about you,you don't belive in intelligent design not because of the evidence but just cause we can't show you the designer,so in other words,people like yourself and the elolutionists movement clear don't have the so call evidence to support their own theory so they start making stuff up like "we come from crystals,or we were seeded by aliens or just pure coincidence by a big explosion who came from nothing to everything in perfect order"
cmon,evolution is a fail fantasy tale.
breedofthe45 2 years ago
Again, showing me you don't even know what evolution is.
Evolution has fuck all to do with crystals, or the big bang.
We do have evidence, lots of it.
Not that I'd expect you to actually understand any of it.
I don't accept intelligent design, because there IS no evidence of it, that hasn't already been refuted 100s of times.
Look, I'll say it again; YOU DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND WHAT EVOLUTION IS. You've shown me over and over that you haven't the slightest clue.
Vehementi 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
What you seem to believe it is is nothing but a fairytale, agreed, but what you think it is isn't what it ACTUALLY is.
As for the lack of evidence, here's that short list again, though I don't expect you'll understand any of it;
Atavisms.
Chromosomal fusion in human chromosome #2.
ERV markers in human and chimp genomes.
MtDNA markers.
Nylonase producing flavobacterium.
Vehementi 2 years ago
the abiogenic beginning of life?
thats your evidence?
so since evolution is a fact,can you give an example of a single genetic mutation process wich can be seen to increase the useful,beneficial information in the genome?
can you document just ONE 100% verifiable transitionary fossil that proves definitively that one species actually change into another completely different species?
if you can answer those questions send them to Dawkins and the evolution movement,they need the answers bad.
breedofthe45 2 years ago
100% verifiable gene mutations causing an increase in genetic information:
Nylonase producing flavobacterium.
This strain of flavobacterium digests and metabolises nylon. Nylon has only existed for about 90 years.
The increase of information comes from duplicating the allele that designates what enzymes the flavobaterium produce. This strain was found amongst a lot of waste from a nylon factory, meaning an abundance of nylon was present.
Any mutations in that duplicate allele that allowed...
Vehementi 2 years ago
the flavobacterium to digest nylon would've put that strain of bacteria at a considerable advantage against the population of flavobacterium that couldn't digest lyon, ultimately leading to them becoming outcompeted by those that could produce nylonase.
To suggest that the nylonase producing flavobacterium existed prior to the invention of nylon (A 100% synthetic, man-made material) would be absurd, because the flavobacterium would've been unable to metabolise, and would've died out.
Vehementi 2 years ago
There are multiple ways that information can increase within a genetic code. Here's two of them;
1) One of the ways genetic code mutates can cause duplicates of base pairs or sections of base pairs to duplicate themselves. This leaves the duplicate available for further mutation.
2) ERV (Endogenous retroviruses) infect their host by intergrating their own genome into their host's genome, so the host copies the ERV's genetic code as it copies its own genetic code...
Vehementi 2 years ago
The ERV's genetic code becomes a permanent part of the host's genome, and is passed to all subsequent generations. If the virus is benign, or the symptoms are treatable, then that means that every generation after the initial host, will also have the ERV's genetic code integrated into their own.
For example.
A section of the host's genome:
AGTCCGCTA
TCAGGCGAT
The ERV's genome:
GCTTGC
CGAACG
The same section of the host's genome, after the ERV intergrates itself.
Vehementi 2 years ago
AGTCGCTTGCCGCTA
TCAGCGAACGGCGAT
The ERV's genome wil now act as a part of the host's genome, and will be copied along with it. It will also mutate, itself. You see, the host's genome's information has now increased by 6 base pairs?
Vehementi 2 years ago
in other words the information increased by 6% out of a 100%.
wow,what a big change!
you are right,but thats not enough to change the genetic code but just altered in what i might add "not a positive way",in other words the host is contaminated instead,not fix or better.thats mutation not transformation.
breedofthe45 2 years ago
The host is contaminated with the ERV at first, but the ERV is free to mutate as the generations pass. It can, and does, become part of the host's genome.
Either way, of course it's not much, evolution takes time.
Look.
It's painfully, painfully obvious that you have no idea what you're on about. Do yourself a favor and throw your keyboard out the window, before you make even more of an arse of yourself.
Vehementi 2 years ago
i think the one lazy is a 100% YOU!
do yourself a favor and get some updates for the old books your are reading and see for yourself the same conflict you and i are having right now over this theory is the same that is going on in the evolution movement by Dawkins,Behe,ect,ect.
even evolutionists disagree with the stuff you just type with your keyboard to me on this page,so if they(proffesionals in the field)can't understand what they claim,how come you call it FACTS! when is clear a THEORY?
breedofthe45 2 years ago
All professional fields that deal with evolution, such as biology, paleontology or anthropology, all accept evolution as it is.
I suppose gravity is "just a theory" too, or germ "theory", what a load of nonsense.
Theories, in a scientific context are very different to theories in common usages of the word.
Stop trying to make out as if there schism within the scientific community. Everyone in the scientific community that understands evolution accepts it, whether you like it or not.
Vehementi 2 years ago
You want to call me lazy, yet I've done hours and hours and hours of research, from many different, impartial and neutral sources, on what evolution is, I've studied the evidence for it, and the evidence against it. The latter of which, there is none. Whereas you're some brainwashed religious fanatic, too arrogant and/or lazy to do genuine research and study.
Talking with you is about as intellectually stimulating as talking with a dead rabbit.
Vehementi 2 years ago
and again with the gravity,
gravity is a fact,evolution for 150 years still a theory,today still a theory because the more you dig the more clear it gets that evolution is not only a simple elegant theory but no evidence to support it,thats the problem,a 150 years ago Darwin did not had the technology we have today,in other words from a simple cell now you have a factory working the size of a flea,the problem some people think the more they keep feeding the lie the sooner people will acept it.
breedofthe45 2 years ago
Gravity is a theory. The theory of gravity.
Relativity is a theory. The theory of general and special relativity.
Germs are a theory. Germ theory.
You are ignorant towards the everything you're trying to refute. You don't understand science, nor do you understand evolution.
Seriously, I don't honestly think I've ever met anyone so willfully ignorant, or arrogant.
Ultimately, I've got one thing left to say, because it's clear you won't listen to anything else I have to say, because it...
Vehementi 2 years ago
you're far too stuck up to admit you're wrong.
So the one last thing I have to say is;
FUCK OFF AND DO SOME SERIOUS RESEARCH.
Don't even reply until you can tell me exactly what evolution is. NOT WHAT YOU THINK IT IS NOW but what it ACTUALLY is.
Vehementi 2 years ago
Trying to talk to you about evolution is like trying to talk to the pope about what sex feels like.
Vehementi 2 years ago
@Vehementi
You, sir, are incredibly correct.
FiverBeyond 2 years ago
to make it clear is just absurd to compare gravity with evolution,gravity is science,evolution is propaganda to sale a fail theory who is becoming more evident to be just a simple tale about life with nothing to offer but the simple plasure to insult anybody who don't go with the program,an atheist religion,thats why is soo important,but besides that whats the point."the only thing Darwinism have gave us is a bunch of racists with eugenics and a bunch of bullies called atheists.wow thats great!
breedofthe45 2 years ago
Vehementi 2 years ago
Each one anatomically resembles the one before and after it.
Yet modern horses are very different to Hyracotherium.
They're listed in the ages of the fossils. With the most recent fossils being nearer the bottom and the oldest nearer the top.
If you want more evidence that the fossil record provides, do some research, I'm not your personal encyclopedia.
Vehementi 2 years ago
Although, this video provides a good example;
/watch?v=I2C-3PjNGok
Vehementi 2 years ago
Hyracotherium=no evidence in fossil records.
Epihippus=no evidence in fossil record.
Mesohippus=no evidence in fossil record.
Parahippus=no evidence in fossil record.
Hipparion=no evidence in fossil record.
Pliohippus=no evidence in fossil record.
Dinohippus=no evidence in fossil record
Plesippus=no evidence in fossil record.
I ask for a 100% provable evidence for a trancitional species not the full animal already in full transformation.you should have at least 1.
breedofthe45 2 years ago
Look, just because you're too lazy to DO SOME RESEARCH on them, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
We have near-complete fossils for all of the listed species. I know they exist, because I've seen them. (In the Natural History Museum, in London.).
Vehementi 2 years ago
since atheists are quick to point out that the evolution THEORY only involves the suppositions of the evolutionary processes of living things,how does evolution deal with the appearance of the atom and its quantum particles?
after all-atoms are NON-LIVING yet they are the substance of everything that is living and non-living.
how matter has originated and evolved?
the simplest of life infinitely more complex to say "just happen"
or created by "a blind watchmaker"
thats precious "blind"ja,ja
breedofthe45 2 years ago
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breedofthe45 2 years ago
propaganda isn't science,is science fiction,keep that in mind and learn to think for yourself instead of just OBEY what the system is feeding you...
breedofthe45 2 years ago
A theory, when used in a scientific context, is the best explanation we have for a series of facts.
Evolution explains the biodiversity of life on Earth perfectly, no evidence we have contradicts it, and all evidence we have supports it. However, there is the potential for evidence to falsify it, such as finding human fossils cuddled up with t-rex fossils, or a reptile with mammary glands. Good luck finding anything that will falsify it.
Vehementi 2 years ago
we have to look at ourselved and remove what is bad? that isnt evolution thats progress.
when you people believed that there was a greater god then you tortured and murdered thosands in the inquistion. sick christian freaks
LocustsAreSwarming 2 years ago
stupid music ruined this vid...
LocustsAreSwarming 2 years ago
No, lying christians ruined this video.
gregrutz 2 years ago
hahaha, well the vidoe sorta removed the comedy in my opinion.
LocustsAreSwarming 2 years ago
what's amazing to me, is that these men claim the death of ethics through progressive evolutionary thinking, leading to events like the holocaust and eugenics. So, the only thing holding the reigns for them not to commit heinous acts is the words (assuming they're christian) of a 2000-year-old-book? They display through this either they're hatred for others, or, more likely, their blind stubborness to adapt to a scientific system that causes cognitive dissonance with their religious background.
Rochard021 2 years ago
Oh look, some nutjobs took a concept and used it to justify murder. People do that with religion to. I don't really get the point of this part of the film. The guy at the end needs to look into the facts. Atheists are under-represented in prison and more religious countries have higher crime-rates. Abortion and euthanasia are nothing to do with 'Darwinism'. Its actually a moral empathy for others that leads to support for these things.
firthio2 2 years ago
I'd also like to add that our brains really are just a bunch of neurons firing... but that doesn't take away any meaning because neuroscience really doesn't know that much about how the hell millions of little messages come together to make a life's story for each individual...there's still a lot more to be learned and a lot of amazing discoveries to be made that'll find that there's much more meaning to our biological functions than it seems at the present
jim0watkins 2 years ago
they're absolutely right about the relation between darwinism and any genocide... darwin got a lot of his ideas from watching people breed for traits, artificial selection, which is what genocide is.. trying to breed a superior human being by eradicating all the "bad" genes... however, it is not darwinism itself, but a way of thinking similar to darwinian theory that's been around for thousands of years
jim0watkins 2 years ago
Man is a useless passion according
to Hitler & Pol Pot.
procommenter 3 years ago
Actually "Man is a useless passion" is according to Jean-Paul Sartre, the originator of the phrase, and it has serious, honest philosophical implications when one realizes that a supreme being is a fairy tale.
Rochard021 2 years ago
Humans have always engineered their own culture. What the hell is the point of this video?
inmendholevision1 3 years ago
moron, the point is that ideas have conesequences, and Darwinian thought gives rise to a depreciation of human value and subsequent moral relativism
CSoul781 3 years ago
couldn't the abandonment of slavery be considered moral relativism? how about humane treatment for the mentally ill? women not treated as chattel? civil rights for minorities? I could go on, but my point is that decrying moral relativism as a course towards the implosion of western civ is a bit on the chicken little side, don't you think?
obxneil 3 years ago
these are the kinds of people who we need to keep believing in god, sounds like they would do some bad shit if they didnt think they would go to hell for it.
me on the other hand i dont do that stuff because it makes me feel good to be a good person. no bribes like heaven or anything
ragnar336 3 years ago
say what you want, but there is a link between ideas and consequences, and there is an historical link between Darwining modern thought and the tragedies of WW2---
CSoul781 3 years ago
see this is why i get so dumbfounded when i hear that. hitler attacked a religious group, he made every nazi soldier wear something that said "god with us" or something like that.
his ethnic cleansing had nothing to do with darwins teachings but more with biblical ethnic cleansing.
if you would onyl pile up the wars fought for christianity and the wars fought for atheism you would see.
if he went by darwins teachings he would go after africans first, not intelligent jews
ragnar336 3 years ago
hitler attacked the jews cause he assumed they weren't of the superiority race as the Germans where, and justified it by using the anti semitism of Luther (nothing to do with Christianity at all)- wars fought in name of Christianity doesn't mean Christianity itself is bad duuuuuuh, learn your history, learn about hiTLER, IHE SAW IN dARWINISM something a social outlook of races, where some where further along evolved than others, and claimed the Germans to be so---learrrrn youuuuur history
CSoul781 3 years ago
hitler had alot to do with his religion.
trust me his scientists were the best in the world at the time, they would of been able to see that the jews were one of the better races(no im not jewish i just know this)
and yes it doesnt mean christianity itself is bad "duuuuuuh" it mean religious beliefs are dangerous and can lead a person to do horrible acts just because he thinks hes carrying out the work of his god.
his genocide was more like biblical genocide rather than genetic genocide.
ragnar336 3 years ago
no no you're wrong man, hitler saw religion as useful to his prerogatives, but when it was not useful to him he eradicated the religious (Dietrich Bonhoeffer being one of them), religion is only dangerous if it's claims are- Christianity's claims for the specific Christian are absolute pacifism- preaching grace and love of God and suffering for the christian due to the world's rejection of such a counter cultural message- Hitler was a politician not a man of faith
CSoul781 3 years ago
"hitler saw religion as useful to his prerogatives" -CSoul781
me:can you provide some proof for this?
"but when it was not useful to him he eradicated the religious" -CSoul781
me: did he eradicate his religions followers or anothers? because if he was catholic killing jews it really really seems like biblical sterilization. you know its been happening to jews for thousands of years?
me:did he mention darwin or god in his diaries? how can you be mistaken?
yea politician justlike george bush?
ragnar336 3 years ago
Wow... utterly pathetic. Nothing but bias claims from a hateful religious perspective.
Ironic how Ben Stein acts as though evolution is a racist and terrible idea... when, in ancient times, the early jewish culture included stoning people to death, and keeping slavery (enslaving people from other countries), and also sees himself as a member of a divinely chosen race...
Oh, and everytime they say "Darwinism", they deserve a "fail" sound like the buzzer of a gameshow.
sonic8005 3 years ago
seriously i get very confused why they call it darwinism. is it so they can still pretend its pre decoding of DNA era? because if theres any religious people listening out there. the human race has decoded DNA for the first time in the 1970's and the argument is over, lets not be sore losers about this and make up lies.
ragnar336 3 years ago
No wonder this movie got an overall terrible ratings, not only from the scientific community, but even those outside.
Faustuss1 3 years ago
Yeah, really, this is despicable.
devourerofbabies 3 years ago
Two words:
Godwin's Law
tesla4d 3 years ago
However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)
ihurley84 3 years ago
How is this point an argument against Darwinism influencing Marxism and the Nazis? No one denies that slavery, in various forms, existed throughout history. The slavery in the Old Testament seems to resemble serfdom or indentured servitude, not the violent chattel slavery of the 17th and 18th centuries. But, again, what does this have to do with intelligent design and Darwinism?
LUCAN22 3 years ago
"If we are creatures of Matter" We ARE creatures of Matter! What did you think we were made of? Ectoplasm? Fairy dust?
"Engineer human culture" I have no clue what he means by that. You mean, create human culture ourselves as opposed to letting dogs build our buildings, design our laws and develop our languages?
dechha1981 3 years ago
"While I would never want to indite a Scientific Theory for the way someone might misuse it"
Here we go
"(whatever he said about "Lower")"
What, like being made of clay?
"In Darwinism... persons"
First of all, what do you mean by Dawinism? Do you mean the theory of Evolution or do you mean Social Darwinism whoch was actually invented by Herbert Spencer? Second, You don't find being the result of a long successfull process of Evolution to be "Dignified"?
dechha1981 3 years ago
"That did not have us in mind" And yet here we are! We won! How's THAT for dignity? We beat the system.
"When we die we rot" that has nothing to do with Evolution
'Meaning is whatever we create" EXACTLY! But why be so mopey about it? You say that like it's a bad thing.
"Justice flows out of the barrel of a gun" Name one Atheist who... Well oK, but name one NON-Communist Atheist who believes that
dechha1981 3 years ago
"One gets to be liberal about Abortion and Euthenasia" I have a theory that anti-choice people hate women, but that's a whole other video.
Tell me, if "Darwinism" 'Devalues human life", then what about Bush, Bin Laden and Nixon?
'Have to take... seriously" No I don't.
dechha1981 3 years ago
"Do you think there could have been... without Darwinism?" Well, let's see; has there ever been anyone who hated the Jews before 1859? Is Hitler the first German religious fanatic who blatantly advocated the extermination of the Jews and tried to create his own religion?
dechha1981 3 years ago
"...Darwinian Rationalle" Seems to me, burning Darwin's books is an odd thing for someone who based his politics on Darwin's teachings to do.
"...unsavoury" Wait a minute, wither what de described is the inherant result of what happens without being threatened with hellfire, or everyone would find it unsavoury. Which is it?
dechha1981 3 years ago
Religion(s) of all kinds have been used throughout human history for all forms of evils --- human sacrifice, tribal wars, the inquisition, witch burnings, pillaging of the Americas, slavery, etc. etc. --- Atheism, not so much.
htoromjr 3 years ago
And the notion of racial superiority is as old as humanity itself. For my degree I am studying colonial Latin America and the Spanish clearly thought themselves as racially superior to the Indians. There was a very influential CATHOLIC school of thought that said Indians had NO INHERENT HUMAN DIGNITY and thus slavery was justified. See Juan De Supulvada and the Valladolid debate.
KierenMan 3 years ago 3
and visa-versa. MAny things have been contributed without using religion as well. It goes both ways. It somes down to all of man my dear
gamblinnreno 3 years ago
How many times is Darwin mentioned in Mein Kampf? not once, how many times is evolution? once and then it is in the context of a evolving political systems. How many times does Hitler refer to God? 42
KierenMan 3 years ago 2
Explain how atheism is immature, narrow, denies the freedom of will and objective morals.
While you are at it, explain why religion is not all of those things.
jbooth002 3 years ago
Atheism is a belief and religion in itself. Although most don't look at it like that. There is more to the world than science, and that is experience. Where Science says "how" religion says "why". Something that science cannot answer. It is a much deeper question than just how does the toy work, let us find out why.
gamblinnreno 3 years ago
gamblinnreno,
WRONG.
Atheism is a lack of belief in a god or gods. That' it. Get a bloody dictionary.
dechha1981 3 years ago 2