Card counting is right system but the way that you are showing to us is not right...way for somebody to understand.And why somebody has to buy your book?Stupid way to sell a book.This is a scam.....!
@Giorgosnikkicpl Card counting is the only way to beat blackjack. By buying the book, you will learn all there is to know about Speed Count and how to do it.
Sorry for the delay in responding...somehow I didn't receive a notification from Youtube. We ran our own sims on Speed Count. Yes, you can get the book, "Beat Blackjack Now", (our updated book) at any book store or by calling us at 866 738 3423
@amok831 Not sure what you are asking. Did all 5 players get 2 10's? what was the count before the hand was dealt? As you practice, say what the count is and then check it before you discard
In the Philippines, the local casinos(PAGCOR) uses six decks and is delt from a shoe. Its about 70 percent penetration. The dealer burns a card after every deal which in not exposed. Does this affect the speed count effectiveness.
@crushbug66 Speed Count will give you an edge in the game you are describing. Things like penetration effect all card counting. But your game is pretty good. Burning a card and not showing it has NO effect on Speed Count
The moves that we do with Speed Count are different. Our OBS is different. Actually those different plays nt only are correct with Speed Count, but add to the camouflage
This is the easy O.P.P... i think this is the same unbalanced count that was developed by Carlos Zilzer a while back. If it is shame on you... and if so, there goes the respect i had...
Actually Speed Count was taught at seminars, published and invented before OPP and OPP doesn't have an Optimal Basic Strategy to use. So you decide who copied who
So if there is a BlackJack table that Stands on ALL 17 and DAS allowed, I would use the OBS on page 84 or 83? Also, where are the cards that you sell?
Depending on the game you use the cards on page 81 to 88. You can get the cards that you can carry in your shirt pocket at our site goldentouchblackjack . com
Just finished Beat BlackJack Now! I'm going to AC soon to try it out. 1 question:
Frank writes in the book about a scenario where the player has a (2-card hard 16) and the dealer has a 10 card. He says you should hit when it's a (2-card hard 16) and to stand when the player has a (3-card hard 16). The OBS strategy doesn't say how to play when you have a 2-card hand or a 3-card hand. Does this matter with speed count? If so, where can I find more info?
Hello...could you please tell me what page you read that on? There isn't a difference between a 2 or 3 card and I believe you are reading wrong. WE are going to stand with our OBS on a hard 16 against the dealer's 10 showing
@goldentouchadvantage It's on page 29. I'm probably not explaining it clearly enough. He says if the dealer has a 10 and the player has a 16 (4, 5, 7), the player is better of standing. If the player instead has a 16 (9-7), then he should hit.
Ahhh...I thought that is where you saw it! What we did with our book "Beat Blackjack Now" is to write a total book about blackjack, giving the reader how to play BJ as a basic Strategy player, and also how to gain an edge using Speed Count. We also included a chapter on Spanish 21. So where you are referring to are the chapters on using basic strategy, NOT Speed Count and NOT our OBS. Standing on a multi player's hand of 16 is an advanced method of using basic strategy. Continued on next post
Using Fred Renzy's and Henry Tamburin's method and their sims as we state in that chapter, a multi hand of 16 has used up small cards and the fact that a few small cards have been used in your hand of 16 against a dealer's 10 is enough to shift the odds towards standing instead of hitting
@goldentouchadvantage Thanks for clearing that up Dominator. Another question: What do you do when you arrive at a table and a new shoe already began? Do you play anyway and start at the appropriate number for speed count, or do you wait until a new shoe begins? I was wondering this as I read the part about penetration in "Beat BlackJack Now!" Since penetration is important, then the deeper in the shoe when you start the better right?
You never jump into a table and start your count in the middle of a shoe unless you have been back counting. So I don't sit down till near the end or if I have to I simply say that I want to wait. Sometimes you can't so just use basic strategy while you wait for the new shoe. You are not understanding penetration. Penetration has to do with the amount of decks that behind the cut card, not how many cards have been dealt. The less amount of cards behind the cut card the better for a counter
@goldentouchadvantage All great tips, thank you Dom. One more question about "Beat Blackjack Now" and I'll give you a break:-) In the book there is no OBS for an 8-deck game, where dealer stands on Soft 17 AND DAS allowed. I've been memorizing OBS for 8-deck, dealer stands on Soft 17 and NO DAS. Would there be a difference in OBS if DAS is allowed and dealer stands on soft 17? I'm studying the OBS on page 84 but would like to know if there would be any changes if DAS was allowed.
On page 84 you can see that the OBS is for games 2 to 8 decks. So you would use the same OBS. One more thing, and I am not trying to sell you on this because you could make it yourself using Excel...you should think about bringing our OBS to the table with you in the form of a card. You can purchase them from us if you wish. This really helps with the camouflage. When a pit critter looks at it they can see that it is different and thinks you are just a stupid player!
For the record, i read the book "Beat Blackjack Now!: The Easiest Way to Get the Edge!", used the speed count strategy and it worked! I went to atlantic city 3 times and have won $880 (I only gambled $50 each time, im a light gambler) using the speed count strategy. I dont know why people are saying the strategy doesnt work, it worked for me. I think people forget that the basic strategy chart differs from the speed count chart, but thanks!!
Thank you for the endorsement! This is a very simple method to learn how to count cards. Does Hi Lo give you a bigger edge..Yes...but that is only if you can play Hi Lo perfectly and not too many people can. People want to criticize this method because they either work for other authors or just becasue they didn't discover the easiest way to beat the game of Blackjack. They get their 15 minutes of fame by posting.
Again thank you for the endorsement as others have as well
I know easiest way to winning blackjack with no fuss! do you want to know! ok here it is! write a phony book about black jack and sell it to the world!!
The strategy is demonstrably flawed, and it doesn't require a computer to prove it. Assume 6 players, the first 3 have 2 ten cards, the next 3 have 3 low cards and 1 ten card. Assume further that the dealer has 2 ten cards. The count is minus 2, indicating an excess number of low cards remaining in the shoe. Although a negative count always benefits the house, this guy would say the count is +2 (i.e., 9 low cards minus 7 players) and therefore favors the player.
Sorry, but you are WRONG! First we don't use minus counts as you indicate with your minus two assumption, What you think are high or low cards again you are using Hi Lo as your indicators of high or low cards. WE don't in Speed Count. Now some people might not have accepted this comment, but we do becasue we are not a HI LO system. HI LO is very hard to do and people that THINK they now how to play HI LO can't. Speed Count is much easier to use
@goldentouchadvantage I think you're missing my point. The failure of your system to use "minus counts" (i.e., to track high cards relative to low cards) is the very reason it cannot work. In my example, your system reports an edge to the player over the house even though the number of ten cards remaining in the shoe is disproportionately high. Do you dispute this? If not, please explain why the player has an edge in spite of the surplus ten cards. And don't get all emotional this time.
I am not missing your point and being emotional about our system is OK when the person criticizing it doesn't know Speed Count. We don't use minus counts because we don't have to in our system. IN your example you don't give the number of decks being used, nor if it was the first hand of the shoe or the tenth. therefore there is impossible to give you an answer. And you obviously don't know how to use Speed Count from your other comments. SC has been proven to work through sims by us and others
one more thing, what ever the count was in Speed Count before your example has to be taken in consideration. You are just wrong when it comes to using Speed Count. BTW in our book and also people like the Wizard of Odds ran his own sims to prove that we say is true. You get an edge using Speed Count. Enough said!
@goldentouchadvantage On the basis of your last 2 replies, I think you should change your nickname from Dominator to PT Barnum. You know nothing about blackjack. Subtracting the number of players rather than 10 cards is about as logical as subtracting the number of female players from male players.
I usually don't get into a back and forth because the math and the sims that are used to prove you get a mathematical advantage using speed Count is published in our book and has been tested by other experts in blackjack as well. I will this one time. Speed Count is an unbalanced system. Your comment is WRONG. We don't subtract the number of players, we subtract the number of HANDS being dealt in that round! So before you criticize the system, do your own sims and know how to use speed Count
The number of decks affects where you begin your count. we have a number that we start with and the number is different for the amount of decks. That number eliminates the subtraction that takes place in HiLo. This is what makes Speed Count so easy. Subtracting is always hard for most people but adding numbers is not. BTW, "Beat Blackjack Now" is our new book with some updates.
@goldentouchadvantage got banned from Fitzgeralds in Tunica, MS. Went to the craps tables won a little bit, went to the blackjack tables won a lot lol. I guess the way I was rolling the dice gave me away there, then I just magically knew when to bet large. Don't go to Fitzgeralds!
Actually Frank and I are banned in ALL of Mississippi and Fitzgeralds was the first to do it. It all happened in a 3 day period and Fitzgerals trespassed us as well. Tunica doesn't like me. They actually said that we have taken too much money from them all these years. Tunica was my ATM machine, when ever I need a few thousand there I was! Tunica used to be the best place in the country to play.
@goldentouchadvantage yeah. I went their one time about 6 months ago when I was first starting out counting cards and they told me to leave. I came back about 5 months later, won a good amount in about 30 minutes then they tried to arrest me for trespassing. I got out though. I then proceeded to the Goldstrike high limit room the next day, won a good ammount then they asked for my social security number. Needless to say I did not give them this lol.
Hi Lo is a great count but is hard to do accurately 100% of the time and hard to learn. Speed Count is VERY EASY to learn...would take a 12 year old 1 day to learn Speed Count..and and almost imposible to make a mistake on the count. If you make a mistake on the count with any counting system and put out a big bet at the wrong time your bank roll would get ruined. So accuracy in the count is what really matters and with Speed Count you will always know when to put out the big bet.
Card counting tells you when the deck is rich in high cards. When the deck is rich or has many high cards, that is favorable for the player. At that time you would make a bigger bet because you have the advantage
I have the speed counting and the dvd. It works. You need to keep at it. You don't win all the time, but you do win in the long run. I was watching the dvd early today.
You are right Harry...card counting doesn't mean you are going to win every session but you will win in the long run. BTW...I am a Giant's fan :)))) Don't hold it against me:))
For some reason you are not posting my comments. I am intrigued by this system as it is clearly simpler then hi-lo or any other system. I know with basic strategy and the ability of early surrender you can have a slight advantage over the house without counting so you may be on to something here. Can you tell me what the advantage over the house is with it. I would guess the advantage would be between 0.01 to 0.05%. What do your computer simulations give?
I don't get to these everyday but I post every comment. You are right with the edge you are stating. The actual advantage differs because of rules at that casino, penetration, and amount of decks
Do you have any mathematical proofs to support this system? I mean you do not count face cards? It appears you would not have an accurate idea of the condition of the remaining shoe if you did not count face cards. For instance if you had 5 players playing and everybody including the dealer were to get 20 on the first hand, that would leave a count of zero using this system when in fact you would have a running count of -12 (6 decks true count -2).
:))) To big with we wouldn't make the claims if we didn't do billions of SIMS with Speed Count. As a mater of fact other...people not associated with us also ran sims and they came with the same proof that you do get a mathematical edge with Speed Count. We use what is called an unblanced system and that is why you don't have to count face cards
As I have said before hi-lo will give you a few tenths of a point higher edge if you can play hi-lo PERFECTLY and not very many players do. Speed Count will give you an edge in blackjack and is a simple method of counting where you don't have to guess how much of the deck is left in the shoe and is EXTREMELY difficult to make any mistakes. A 12 year old can learn to count cards using Speed Count
Dominator, quick question lets say playing out of a six deck shoe my count right now is 36. I have 14 with like K 4 and the dealer is showing a 9 with I hit with basic strategy or stay?
@vikv100 I am pretty certain you would hit this, as the dealer is very likely to make 19 with a high plus count. I think sticking with basic strategy is best.
Sorry for the delay in responding...somehow I didn't receive a notification from Youtube. If you have learned Basic Strategy then it would take you no more than 3 hours to learn Speed Count. With basic Strategy you are still playing with a negative edge against the casinos, With Speed Count you will be playing with a positive edge
Not sure of your question. We gave you the basics on this video, but you will need to know the OBS that we use, so I guess the answer is you have to buy the book to understand the full method of play
First what the count is doesn't enter into what you do as far as stand or hit. The count only tells you how much to bet. You don't deviate from the OBS as far as the move. So in your example you would hit
This is a terrible count!! You can't control the card with it if u don't account for those high cards. Hi lo is way more effective and way more accurate
No one said that Hi Lo won't give you a slightly greater edge if you can play Hi Lo PERFECTLY. Read my comments about this. BUT very few people can play Hi Lo PERFECTLY. What Speed Count gives you is a very easy way to count cards that will give you an edge and can be learned in a few hours.
I still dont understand...so im watching the first hand which has a value of +2, the Q is then dealt which having a value of -1 would surely make the overall count +1? Then the next 2 low cards add value of +2 making the total count +3, the neutral card is dealt keeping the count at +3. 6 is dealt making the count +4. Ignoring the neutral hand the next has a 2 (value +1) and a J (value -1) so would this not still be a total count of +4? Im not arguing i think im just confused, could you explain?
However, I guess to be 95% confident that I don't lose it all, I need to have ~$1,500 in my pocket going in. Betting conservative, I can play for 4 hours and be 95% confident that I won't lose it all. Do I got it straight? As far as the terrible BJ game I described (avail at 2 casinos here), I guess we're stuck with the 3 casinos we have in our mid-western metro area...the 3rd joint has 6 decks and ~50% penetration!! NUTS TO THAT!! :(
You have it right...it is a lot of dough, but that is why most card counters fail. They don't have a big enough BR to sustain the loss that will happen or their unit size is too big for their BR. I practiced for 6 months while I built my BR. If you want to do this to supplement your income you have to do it right.
If I want to play at a $10 table for 2 hours, how much 'cabbage' do I need in my wallet so not to lose it all in that 2 hour period?
Assumptions:
4 players plus the dlr/8 decks/75% penetration / Dealer Hits soft 17 /no surrender/split aces up to 4 times/BJ pays 3 to 2
Do you have software that'll give me a 'going in' dollar amount for various scenarios? I'd like you to pls. at least answer the above question. Thx!! :)
OK I am going to make the Assumption that you are using Speed Count ad going to play the conservative style of SC. BTW, this game you are describing is a terrible game that I wouldn't play..doesn't mean you can't beat it though. We actually have this risk of ruin for different games right in our book. For 4 hours of play you need $1500. You can also purchase our software where you can change the different games and your betting amount
Hi Davy...the book is only $16.95 not $27....but that isn't really the purpose of my response. Yes, I KNOW Speed Count is that easy and you can see that as well from the testimonials on this post or from the testimonials on our website. I am not sure what you mean as problems. If you mean can you be asked to leave becasue of Speed Count or any other counting method, the answer is yes, but I would rather have an edge with the chance of being booted then not
LOL. Such a typical comment! I really don't care if you believe that I have made money playing blackjack or craps. WE wrote the book on a way that counts cards that is easy to learn and will give you an edge when you play. Buy the book or not, I really don't care!
hey frank, i just read your book "Beat Blackjack Now" and i gotta say your system is incredibly easy to learn and practice. having toyed with Hi-Lo before, i've now completely abandoned it because i knew i couldn't make it work like i can make yours work perfectly. thanks a lot!!!
There are some differances...one we were the first with this idea and OPP copied our thought process...second OPP doesn't have a OBS which makes Speed Count stronger
You never start in the middle of a shoe unless you have been back counting. So you would start at a new shoe and the number you start with depends on the number of decks you are playing
@goldentouchadvantage so if it was 2 decks the count would be zero at the start right? saame with 4 5 deck etc? and youd sit down at the beginning and count the cards
With a two deck game the count starts at 30 with Speed Count. We start at a bigger number like 30 so that we don't have any negative numbers as you would if you use a count such as Hi Lo. That is what makes Speed Count so much easier. get our book. I am sure you will "love it..Beat Blackjack Now"
Lets say that you are playing a two deck game. You are starting with a count of 30. if you add 3 you get 33 for the next round. That means that a big bet should be made. Get our new book "Beat Blackjack Now" and you will get it in about 2 hours.
I have always said that Hi LO will give me a slightly bigger edge...BUT...and this is a BIG BUT...you have to be able to play Hi Lo 100% PERFECTLY and not to many people can play Hi LO like a computer. Learn Speed Count and you will make money counting cards and you will be more effective
What is the edge?? I live in Maimi. We only have 8 deck, dealers hit soft 17, double on anything, split up to 4 hands, split aces once. What a 1-32 spread, what would be my advantage?
I usually play 1 on 1, would it be beneficial to me to add a second hand once the count gets high enough...if so at what count would I add the second hand? I will be playing 6 deck.
The more hands you can play when you have the advantage...the count is high and in our favor...the more money you will win over the long haul. In our book it tells you at what Speed Count you would go to two hands. It depends on the number of decks.
You probably thought I wouldn't approve of this comment. I did becasue people without any thing intelligent to say just use name calling to try to make a point. What your point is...I don't know
LOL....OK if you say so...I guess having three books published, and TV documentary done on my life by the History....CNN interviewing me....Yep i guess you are right
This is a system equivalent of counting all the low cards. If you only bet big on +30 for a 2 Decks shoe, then you'll never be betting big. Why? Simple math:
There's 40 small cards in a 2 Deck shoe. If 30 of the 40 cards are out, you will most likely already have hit the penetration. It will take ((40-30) / #players) rounds before you stop having the chance of getting an edge near the end of the shoe.
This system is nearly the same of counting all the low cards and bet big if none are left.
Sorry but you are wrong. Especially in a two deck show, you can start betting big rather quickly. What is the reason of trying to put holes holes in Speed Count when there aren't any! It will not give you as high of an edge as HI LO..but you have to be playing Hi Lo perfectly and most people CAN'T. It is the simplest way to count cards ever devised and easy to learn. If you want to gain an edge at blackjack quick and easily...learn Speed Count
Yes, The history channel on their show "Breaking Vegas" did a one hour documentary on my life beating the casinos. They did a lot of research to prove I was legit and I did what people say I can do! Thanks!
Speed Count is what is called an unbalanced system. Hi Lo does just use cards, but that is where the mistakes are likely to happen. Speed Count is much easier to learn and do accurately
Very impressive and educational video, i think to play proper black jack one should learn perfect skills to count the cards so that while playing player should not face any difficulties.
There are advantages and disadvantages to using different card counting methods. Simpler methods like the Speed Count are easier to use, but the advantage is smaller. More challenging methods like the Hi Lo and KO count offer a higher advantage, but you're more likely to make mistakes.
You are exactly correct! Speed Count is simpler and easier, but will give you a less of an advantage than HI LO. We state that right out. IMHO, the amount of people that can play HI Lo perfectly though is in the minuscule amount, so it is just not worth it
So if the starting count is +30 on a 2 deck game, what is it on a 6 deck game, +90? Let me know and i just might buy your book =] I'm just a bit skeptical because this seems too easy to be true
What you do in any counting system, is count the cards from players that have busted and wait till the dealer turns their cards and then the player's card that have not busted to count the face down card
ya 10-K is minus (depending on system). this system, you could count the whole deck and have a plus count. wheres the minus? u should have a ZERO by the end of the deck
You are thinking of a balanced count system, this is an unbalanced count. People can try to put holes in speed count, but they can't. Speed Count gives you a verifiable edge but is simpler to learn. No one says that the edge is greater than Hi Lo, but it is simpler to learn
Bad...so your definition of a bad card counting system is what? Speed Count gives you a verifiable edge in the game..this is bad???....and it is simpler and faster to learn that any other card counting system...this is bad?....
Hi Lo will give you a slightly bigger edge, no one said it wouldn't...BUT...you must be able to play Hi Lo PERFECTLY and many people they do but don't. Speed Count is easier and you won't make mistakes as most people do with HI Lo
actually im pretty good at my counts i mess up sometimes im not gonna lie but its working out for me so far ....i can count a deck in 30 seconds so far and i remember most of the major plays of HI-LO ....its not gonna be easy to learn which is true but it will be one of the easiest methods you will find among the most accurate ones..i mean it is easy enough that a person can just practice for awhile and learn it well..HI-OPT 2 would be hard because even with great practice you can mess up easily
look im not saying your way sucks but i cant see it working since youll always get a positive number so there is no balance between high or low cards.
I know that You just are thinking of Hi Lo that gives you a negative number. When we start a count we use a big number number...30 in a 2 deck game...We do this because when we do subtract at the end we will always get a positive number. If the number we get is above 30 we have a "positive count" and put out a big bet. If the number is below 30 we have a "negative count" (using your terms) and we put out a min bet. If we started lower we would have a neg #,but Neg#'s always confused most people
Not really. I played Hi Lo for many years and new 150 different indexes. I only use SC now and have for the last 4 years. It is just so much easier and no mistakes are made. I can have a beer and not worry about where I am in the count. But listen, if Hi Lo works for you, then continue to use it. Good luck!
Hi Dominator....So basically, the higher the count, the more I should bet...And what difference does it make if we're playing with 1 deck or 3-4 decks?....
So what do I do with this resulting "3"? This supposed to mean something? I must be missing something here...
yellowmusicfreak 3 months ago
Card counting is right system but the way that you are showing to us is not right...way for somebody to understand.And why somebody has to buy your book?Stupid way to sell a book.This is a scam.....!
Giorgosnikkicpl 3 months ago
@Giorgosnikkicpl Card counting is the only way to beat blackjack. By buying the book, you will learn all there is to know about Speed Count and how to do it.
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 3 months ago
Respond to this video...By the resulting 3, I guess you mean what # you get after the cards are dealt. You would subtract the 3 from the count
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 3 months ago
Have you tested your system with the BABUM Blackjack software?
Is your book available at Barnes and Noble or any other brandy book store?
The21Wiz 3 months ago
Sorry for the delay in responding...somehow I didn't receive a notification from Youtube. We ran our own sims on Speed Count. Yes, you can get the book, "Beat Blackjack Now", (our updated book) at any book store or by calling us at 866 738 3423
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 3 months ago
@amok831 Not sure what you are asking. Did all 5 players get 2 10's? what was the count before the hand was dealt? As you practice, say what the count is and then check it before you discard
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 5 months ago
In the Philippines, the local casinos(PAGCOR) uses six decks and is delt from a shoe. Its about 70 percent penetration. The dealer burns a card after every deal which in not exposed. Does this affect the speed count effectiveness.
crushbug66 7 months ago
@crushbug66 Speed Count will give you an edge in the game you are describing. Things like penetration effect all card counting. But your game is pretty good. Burning a card and not showing it has NO effect on Speed Count
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 7 months ago
did he just double down on a 9 with a face showing...? haha
poptartguy06 7 months ago
The moves that we do with Speed Count are different. Our OBS is different. Actually those different plays nt only are correct with Speed Count, but add to the camouflage
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 7 months ago
@poptartguy06
As was said before, our moves in Speed Count are different
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 7 months ago
0:16 THATS MEEEEEE!!!!
SpecialOpsBunny 7 months ago
This is the easy O.P.P... i think this is the same unbalanced count that was developed by Carlos Zilzer a while back. If it is shame on you... and if so, there goes the respect i had...
o0oboneheado0o 8 months ago
Actually Speed Count was taught at seminars, published and invented before OPP and OPP doesn't have an Optimal Basic Strategy to use. So you decide who copied who
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 8 months ago
So if there is a BlackJack table that Stands on ALL 17 and DAS allowed, I would use the OBS on page 84 or 83? Also, where are the cards that you sell?
themusiconomy 8 months ago
Depending on the game you use the cards on page 81 to 88. You can get the cards that you can carry in your shirt pocket at our site goldentouchblackjack . com
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 8 months ago
Just finished Beat BlackJack Now! I'm going to AC soon to try it out. 1 question:
Frank writes in the book about a scenario where the player has a (2-card hard 16) and the dealer has a 10 card. He says you should hit when it's a (2-card hard 16) and to stand when the player has a (3-card hard 16). The OBS strategy doesn't say how to play when you have a 2-card hand or a 3-card hand. Does this matter with speed count? If so, where can I find more info?
themusiconomy 8 months ago
Hello...could you please tell me what page you read that on? There isn't a difference between a 2 or 3 card and I believe you are reading wrong. WE are going to stand with our OBS on a hard 16 against the dealer's 10 showing
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 8 months ago
@goldentouchadvantage It's on page 29. I'm probably not explaining it clearly enough. He says if the dealer has a 10 and the player has a 16 (4, 5, 7), the player is better of standing. If the player instead has a 16 (9-7), then he should hit.
themusiconomy 8 months ago
Ahhh...I thought that is where you saw it! What we did with our book "Beat Blackjack Now" is to write a total book about blackjack, giving the reader how to play BJ as a basic Strategy player, and also how to gain an edge using Speed Count. We also included a chapter on Spanish 21. So where you are referring to are the chapters on using basic strategy, NOT Speed Count and NOT our OBS. Standing on a multi player's hand of 16 is an advanced method of using basic strategy. Continued on next post
goldentouchadvantage 8 months ago
Using Fred Renzy's and Henry Tamburin's method and their sims as we state in that chapter, a multi hand of 16 has used up small cards and the fact that a few small cards have been used in your hand of 16 against a dealer's 10 is enough to shift the odds towards standing instead of hitting
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 8 months ago
@goldentouchadvantage Thanks for clearing that up Dominator. Another question: What do you do when you arrive at a table and a new shoe already began? Do you play anyway and start at the appropriate number for speed count, or do you wait until a new shoe begins? I was wondering this as I read the part about penetration in "Beat BlackJack Now!" Since penetration is important, then the deeper in the shoe when you start the better right?
themusiconomy 8 months ago
You never jump into a table and start your count in the middle of a shoe unless you have been back counting. So I don't sit down till near the end or if I have to I simply say that I want to wait. Sometimes you can't so just use basic strategy while you wait for the new shoe. You are not understanding penetration. Penetration has to do with the amount of decks that behind the cut card, not how many cards have been dealt. The less amount of cards behind the cut card the better for a counter
Dom
goldentouchadvantage 8 months ago
@goldentouchadvantage All great tips, thank you Dom. One more question about "Beat Blackjack Now" and I'll give you a break:-) In the book there is no OBS for an 8-deck game, where dealer stands on Soft 17 AND DAS allowed. I've been memorizing OBS for 8-deck, dealer stands on Soft 17 and NO DAS. Would there be a difference in OBS if DAS is allowed and dealer stands on soft 17? I'm studying the OBS on page 84 but would like to know if there would be any changes if DAS was allowed.
themusiconomy 8 months ago
On page 84 you can see that the OBS is for games 2 to 8 decks. So you would use the same OBS. One more thing, and I am not trying to sell you on this because you could make it yourself using Excel...you should think about bringing our OBS to the table with you in the form of a card. You can purchase them from us if you wish. This really helps with the camouflage. When a pit critter looks at it they can see that it is different and thinks you are just a stupid player!
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 8 months ago
For the record, i read the book "Beat Blackjack Now!: The Easiest Way to Get the Edge!", used the speed count strategy and it worked! I went to atlantic city 3 times and have won $880 (I only gambled $50 each time, im a light gambler) using the speed count strategy. I dont know why people are saying the strategy doesnt work, it worked for me. I think people forget that the basic strategy chart differs from the speed count chart, but thanks!!
icecoldeddie 8 months ago
Thank you for the endorsement! This is a very simple method to learn how to count cards. Does Hi Lo give you a bigger edge..Yes...but that is only if you can play Hi Lo perfectly and not too many people can. People want to criticize this method because they either work for other authors or just becasue they didn't discover the easiest way to beat the game of Blackjack. They get their 15 minutes of fame by posting.
Again thank you for the endorsement as others have as well
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 8 months ago
I know easiest way to winning blackjack with no fuss! do you want to know! ok here it is! write a phony book about black jack and sell it to the world!!
antonioscheel 8 months ago
I love comments like these! So did you run your own sims to prove that we are wrong? NOT! When you do let us all know!
We show the sims in our book to prove you get an edge with Speed Count, and others that are not associated with us have done the same.
Anyone that wants to learn to get an easy card counting method should buy our book "Beat Blackjack Now"
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 8 months ago
The strategy is demonstrably flawed, and it doesn't require a computer to prove it. Assume 6 players, the first 3 have 2 ten cards, the next 3 have 3 low cards and 1 ten card. Assume further that the dealer has 2 ten cards. The count is minus 2, indicating an excess number of low cards remaining in the shoe. Although a negative count always benefits the house, this guy would say the count is +2 (i.e., 9 low cards minus 7 players) and therefore favors the player.
jim3bo1 9 months ago
Sorry, but you are WRONG! First we don't use minus counts as you indicate with your minus two assumption, What you think are high or low cards again you are using Hi Lo as your indicators of high or low cards. WE don't in Speed Count. Now some people might not have accepted this comment, but we do becasue we are not a HI LO system. HI LO is very hard to do and people that THINK they now how to play HI LO can't. Speed Count is much easier to use
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 9 months ago
@goldentouchadvantage I think you're missing my point. The failure of your system to use "minus counts" (i.e., to track high cards relative to low cards) is the very reason it cannot work. In my example, your system reports an edge to the player over the house even though the number of ten cards remaining in the shoe is disproportionately high. Do you dispute this? If not, please explain why the player has an edge in spite of the surplus ten cards. And don't get all emotional this time.
jim3bo1 9 months ago
I am not missing your point and being emotional about our system is OK when the person criticizing it doesn't know Speed Count. We don't use minus counts because we don't have to in our system. IN your example you don't give the number of decks being used, nor if it was the first hand of the shoe or the tenth. therefore there is impossible to give you an answer. And you obviously don't know how to use Speed Count from your other comments. SC has been proven to work through sims by us and others
goldentouchadvantage 9 months ago
one more thing, what ever the count was in Speed Count before your example has to be taken in consideration. You are just wrong when it comes to using Speed Count. BTW in our book and also people like the Wizard of Odds ran his own sims to prove that we say is true. You get an edge using Speed Count. Enough said!
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 9 months ago
@goldentouchadvantage On the basis of your last 2 replies, I think you should change your nickname from Dominator to PT Barnum. You know nothing about blackjack. Subtracting the number of players rather than 10 cards is about as logical as subtracting the number of female players from male players.
jim3bo1 9 months ago
I usually don't get into a back and forth because the math and the sims that are used to prove you get a mathematical advantage using speed Count is published in our book and has been tested by other experts in blackjack as well. I will this one time. Speed Count is an unbalanced system. Your comment is WRONG. We don't subtract the number of players, we subtract the number of HANDS being dealt in that round! So before you criticize the system, do your own sims and know how to use speed Count
goldentouchadvantage 9 months ago
Does the number of decks affect the count, and is there some sort of true count, like in hi-lo?
Timcoe4 9 months ago
I have been using this system and recently won 2600.
SuP3rNeSs022 9 months ago
Great Going! And it is so simple!
goldentouchadvantage 9 months ago
The number of decks affects where you begin your count. we have a number that we start with and the number is different for the amount of decks. That number eliminates the subtraction that takes place in HiLo. This is what makes Speed Count so easy. Subtracting is always hard for most people but adding numbers is not. BTW, "Beat Blackjack Now" is our new book with some updates.
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 9 months ago
@goldentouchadvantage got banned from Fitzgeralds in Tunica, MS. Went to the craps tables won a little bit, went to the blackjack tables won a lot lol. I guess the way I was rolling the dice gave me away there, then I just magically knew when to bet large. Don't go to Fitzgeralds!
SuP3rNeSs022 8 months ago
Actually Frank and I are banned in ALL of Mississippi and Fitzgeralds was the first to do it. It all happened in a 3 day period and Fitzgerals trespassed us as well. Tunica doesn't like me. They actually said that we have taken too much money from them all these years. Tunica was my ATM machine, when ever I need a few thousand there I was! Tunica used to be the best place in the country to play.
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 8 months ago
@goldentouchadvantage I agree lol. Fitzgeralds was my ATM but now I'm banned for life :(.
SuP3rNeSs022 8 months ago
Were you trespassed? I was at Fitzs so I can't even step on their property without being arrested
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 8 months ago
@goldentouchadvantage yeah. I went their one time about 6 months ago when I was first starting out counting cards and they told me to leave. I came back about 5 months later, won a good amount in about 30 minutes then they tried to arrest me for trespassing. I got out though. I then proceeded to the Goldstrike high limit room the next day, won a good ammount then they asked for my social security number. Needless to say I did not give them this lol.
SuP3rNeSs022 8 months ago
Why did you develop this system? What is wrong with the normal Hi-Lo count? You are supposed to count hi vs low, not low vs players.
cbernier3 10 months ago
Hi Lo is a great count but is hard to do accurately 100% of the time and hard to learn. Speed Count is VERY EASY to learn...would take a 12 year old 1 day to learn Speed Count..and and almost imposible to make a mistake on the count. If you make a mistake on the count with any counting system and put out a big bet at the wrong time your bank roll would get ruined. So accuracy in the count is what really matters and with Speed Count you will always know when to put out the big bet.
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 9 months ago
are the cards played not reshuffled into the deck on the next hand?
ThePrunePranks 10 months ago
Yes, you can not beat the continuous shuffle machines where the cards are reshuffled after each round
Dominator.
goldentouchadvantage 10 months ago
ok....8-5=3 now you have an edge @ blackjack? huh?
intidsunqueen 10 months ago
Buy the book
Domiantor
goldentouchadvantage 10 months ago
can sum1 tell me da point of counting cards ecuz so what if u counted them? what do u do with da count?? how dus it give u an advantage
contrerasleo13 10 months ago
Card counting tells you when the deck is rich in high cards. When the deck is rich or has many high cards, that is favorable for the player. At that time you would make a bigger bet because you have the advantage
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 10 months ago
I have the speed counting and the dvd. It works. You need to keep at it. You don't win all the time, but you do win in the long run. I was watching the dvd early today.
Harry
Go Jets
harry811 11 months ago
You are right Harry...card counting doesn't mean you are going to win every session but you will win in the long run. BTW...I am a Giant's fan :)))) Don't hold it against me:))
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 11 months ago
uhh whats the 3 for the next card will be 3??
jojozzzz98 11 months ago
Sorry I am really not sure what you are asking
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 11 months ago
For some reason you are not posting my comments. I am intrigued by this system as it is clearly simpler then hi-lo or any other system. I know with basic strategy and the ability of early surrender you can have a slight advantage over the house without counting so you may be on to something here. Can you tell me what the advantage over the house is with it. I would guess the advantage would be between 0.01 to 0.05%. What do your computer simulations give?
poochpoints 1 year ago
I don't get to these everyday but I post every comment. You are right with the edge you are stating. The actual advantage differs because of rules at that casino, penetration, and amount of decks
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
I think I am going to write a book and sell it where you only count 10's and aces as negative that a six year old could learn for $19.95.
poochpoints 1 year ago
Go for it! just do the sims to prove that you do get an edge
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
Do you have any mathematical proofs to support this system? I mean you do not count face cards? It appears you would not have an accurate idea of the condition of the remaining shoe if you did not count face cards. For instance if you had 5 players playing and everybody including the dealer were to get 20 on the first hand, that would leave a count of zero using this system when in fact you would have a running count of -12 (6 decks true count -2).
poochpoints 1 year ago
:))) To big with we wouldn't make the claims if we didn't do billions of SIMS with Speed Count. As a mater of fact other...people not associated with us also ran sims and they came with the same proof that you do get a mathematical edge with Speed Count. We use what is called an unblanced system and that is why you don't have to count face cards
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
do you keep a running count?
lickmysack12 1 year ago
We keep a running count through out the show but in the traditional way of a Hi Lo counter
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
5 from 8 is 3. It's that easy, you have now learned how to count cards.
Seriously? WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT 3 SUPPOSED TO BE?? ROFL!
ZottenKerel 1 year ago
I wish I knew how to edit your question so I apologize to everyone for your words!
the 3 tells us how much to add to our count and then what bet to make
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
picture card is -1 dont know why he isnt counting those!
AngeloR674 1 year ago
You are thinking of Hi Lo and other card counting methods. What makes Speed Count so simple is that we only count 2-6
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
Use the hi-lo method instead.
Henry92RLC 1 year ago
As I have said before hi-lo will give you a few tenths of a point higher edge if you can play hi-lo PERFECTLY and not very many players do. Speed Count will give you an edge in blackjack and is a simple method of counting where you don't have to guess how much of the deck is left in the shoe and is EXTREMELY difficult to make any mistakes. A 12 year old can learn to count cards using Speed Count
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
@vikv100 You should always follow basic strategy.
Henry92RLC 1 year ago
You are right. If you are not going to count cards that a player should never deviate from basic strategy
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
Will this get me lots of hos and bitches?
scabbybuttcrack 1 year ago
5 - 8 is not 3. its actually -3.
KerryDoan 1 year ago
12 year olds can learn it? im asian and from where im from 5 year olds can do this
KerryDoan 1 year ago
:))))
yep I would think some 5 year olds can do Speed Count!
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
Dominator, quick question lets say playing out of a six deck shoe my count right now is 36. I have 14 with like K 4 and the dealer is showing a 9 with I hit with basic strategy or stay?
vikv100 1 year ago
@vikv100 I am pretty certain you would hit this, as the dealer is very likely to make 19 with a high plus count. I think sticking with basic strategy is best.
poochpoints 1 year ago
Sorry for the delay in responding...somehow I didn't receive a notification from Youtube. If you have learned Basic Strategy then it would take you no more than 3 hours to learn Speed Count. With basic Strategy you are still playing with a negative edge against the casinos, With Speed Count you will be playing with a positive edge
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 3 months ago
I no longer need the book, right?
Headmaster85 1 year ago
Not sure of your question. We gave you the basics on this video, but you will need to know the OBS that we use, so I guess the answer is you have to buy the book to understand the full method of play
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
First what the count is doesn't enter into what you do as far as stand or hit. The count only tells you how much to bet. You don't deviate from the OBS as far as the move. So in your example you would hit
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
If it’s such a good system, why does he have to sell the secret?
jefboyardee 1 year ago
This is a terrible count!! You can't control the card with it if u don't account for those high cards. Hi lo is way more effective and way more accurate
MotoLanceCorporal 1 year ago
No one said that Hi Lo won't give you a slightly greater edge if you can play Hi Lo PERFECTLY. Read my comments about this. BUT very few people can play Hi Lo PERFECTLY. What Speed Count gives you is a very easy way to count cards that will give you an edge and can be learned in a few hours.
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
I still dont understand...so im watching the first hand which has a value of +2, the Q is then dealt which having a value of -1 would surely make the overall count +1? Then the next 2 low cards add value of +2 making the total count +3, the neutral card is dealt keeping the count at +3. 6 is dealt making the count +4. Ignoring the neutral hand the next has a 2 (value +1) and a J (value -1) so would this not still be a total count of +4? Im not arguing i think im just confused, could you explain?
IDyaKz 1 year ago
You are giving the Q a value that is associated with Hi Lo...not Speed Count. We don't count the Q at all in Speed Count just cards 2 to 6
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
Thanks Dominator. That's a lot of dough.
However, I guess to be 95% confident that I don't lose it all, I need to have ~$1,500 in my pocket going in. Betting conservative, I can play for 4 hours and be 95% confident that I won't lose it all. Do I got it straight? As far as the terrible BJ game I described (avail at 2 casinos here), I guess we're stuck with the 3 casinos we have in our mid-western metro area...the 3rd joint has 6 decks and ~50% penetration!! NUTS TO THAT!! :(
tsuneatu 1 year ago
You have it right...it is a lot of dough, but that is why most card counters fail. They don't have a big enough BR to sustain the loss that will happen or their unit size is too big for their BR. I practiced for 6 months while I built my BR. If you want to do this to supplement your income you have to do it right.
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
Hello goldentouchadvantage person.
RE: BANKROLL and RISK OF RUIN
If I want to play at a $10 table for 2 hours, how much 'cabbage' do I need in my wallet so not to lose it all in that 2 hour period?
Assumptions:
4 players plus the dlr/8 decks/75% penetration / Dealer Hits soft 17 /no surrender/split aces up to 4 times/BJ pays 3 to 2
Do you have software that'll give me a 'going in' dollar amount for various scenarios? I'd like you to pls. at least answer the above question. Thx!! :)
tsuneatu 1 year ago
OK I am going to make the Assumption that you are using Speed Count ad going to play the conservative style of SC. BTW, this game you are describing is a terrible game that I wouldn't play..doesn't mean you can't beat it though. We actually have this risk of ruin for different games right in our book. For 4 hours of play you need $1500. You can also purchase our software where you can change the different games and your betting amount
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
Hey Dominator,
Well ok i understand , So i´ll buy your book :) for 27$ or something
You sure that you strategie is so easy like it sounds ?
i´ll arrive on 3th august and i´ll start studing your strategie speed counting.
You know i just want to win some 1000 $ or some.
Can you tell if your speed count really works without problems ?
Can i still find your book in the library ? maybe i can get it from there too.
THANKS A LOT FOR THAT STRATEGIE AND I HOPE IT WILL WORK.
TheDavy16 1 year ago
Hi Davy...the book is only $16.95 not $27....but that isn't really the purpose of my response. Yes, I KNOW Speed Count is that easy and you can see that as well from the testimonials on this post or from the testimonials on our website. I am not sure what you mean as problems. If you mean can you be asked to leave becasue of Speed Count or any other counting method, the answer is yes, but I would rather have an edge with the chance of being booted then not
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
2,3,4,5,6 are +1 right ?
7,8,9 have a value of 0 right ?
A,B,K,10,D have a value of -1 or not ?
Is it so easy like you saying in the video ?
i´ll try it on a casino soon wish me luck
i´ll try your SPEED COUNT.
TheDavy16 1 year ago
We don't use any plus or minus counts in Speed Count. It is easy bu there are more factors that you are just listing here.
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
LOL. Such a typical comment! I really don't care if you believe that I have made money playing blackjack or craps. WE wrote the book on a way that counts cards that is easy to learn and will give you an edge when you play. Buy the book or not, I really don't care!
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
hey frank, i just read your book "Beat Blackjack Now" and i gotta say your system is incredibly easy to learn and practice. having toyed with Hi-Lo before, i've now completely abandoned it because i knew i couldn't make it work like i can make yours work perfectly. thanks a lot!!!
hooboy123 1 year ago
Thanks! As we say it is the simplest was to learn to count cards and beat this game of blackjack!
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
Thanks! As we say it is the simplest was to learn to count cards and beat this game of blackjack!
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
Thanks! As we say it is the simplest was to learn to count cards and beat this game of blackjack!
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
Thanks! As we say it is the simplest was to learn to count cards and beat this game of blackjack!
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
Thanks! As we say it is the simplest was to learn to count cards and beat this game of blackjack!
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
Thanks! As we say it is the simplest was to learn to count cards and beat this game of blackjack!
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
seems similar to the OPP count
TCrum84 1 year ago
there are some differences....First we came up with this first and OPP copied it..second OPP doesn't have an OBS
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
there are some differences....First we came up with this first and OPP copied it..second OPP doesn't have an OBS
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
there are some differences....First we came up with this first and OPP copied it..second OPP doesn't have an OBS
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
there are some differences....First we came up with this first and OPP copied it..second OPP doesn't have an OBS
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
there are some differences....First we came up with this first and OPP copied it..second OPP doesn't have an OBS
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
there are some differences....First we came up with this first and OPP copied it..second OPP doesn't have an OBS
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
there are some differences....First we came up with this first and OPP copied it..second OPP doesn't have an OBS
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
There are some differances...one we were the first with this idea and OPP copied our thought process...second OPP doesn't have a OBS which makes Speed Count stronger
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
how do you know what the count it when you sit down at a table?
WHOhasFaLL3n 1 year ago
You never start in the middle of a shoe unless you have been back counting. So you would start at a new shoe and the number you start with depends on the number of decks you are playing
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
@goldentouchadvantage so if it was 2 decks the count would be zero at the start right? saame with 4 5 deck etc? and youd sit down at the beginning and count the cards
WHOhasFaLL3n 1 year ago
With a two deck game the count starts at 30 with Speed Count. We start at a bigger number like 30 so that we don't have any negative numbers as you would if you use a count such as Hi Lo. That is what makes Speed Count so much easier. get our book. I am sure you will "love it..Beat Blackjack Now"
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
ok so when you subtracted 5 from the 8 and you ended up with 3 what do you do with that 3
ninjaxclown 1 year ago
Lets say that you are playing a two deck game. You are starting with a count of 30. if you add 3 you get 33 for the next round. That means that a big bet should be made. Get our new book "Beat Blackjack Now" and you will get it in about 2 hours.
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
The speed count system is a more efficient way of counting cards though Hi-Lo is still significantly more effective.
gamedesigner999 1 year ago
I have always said that Hi LO will give me a slightly bigger edge...BUT...and this is a BIG BUT...you have to be able to play Hi Lo 100% PERFECTLY and not to many people can play Hi LO like a computer. Learn Speed Count and you will make money counting cards and you will be more effective
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
What is the edge?? I live in Maimi. We only have 8 deck, dealers hit soft 17, double on anything, split up to 4 hands, split aces once. What a 1-32 spread, what would be my advantage?
GOGETER10 1 year ago
Are you sure you can spread 1 -32 meaning as an example go from a $10 bet to $320 bet???? Man if you can let me know the place!
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
I usually play 1 on 1, would it be beneficial to me to add a second hand once the count gets high enough...if so at what count would I add the second hand? I will be playing 6 deck.
mlp25000 1 year ago
The more hands you can play when you have the advantage...the count is high and in our favor...the more money you will win over the long haul. In our book it tells you at what Speed Count you would go to two hands. It depends on the number of decks.
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
Interesting. I'm trying to learn how to count cards :P
rs2lord 1 year ago
I sir, am no doctor. But you sir, are an idiot.
browntownman 1 year ago
You probably thought I wouldn't approve of this comment. I did becasue people without any thing intelligent to say just use name calling to try to make a point. What your point is...I don't know
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
LOL....OK if you say so...I guess having three books published, and TV documentary done on my life by the History....CNN interviewing me....Yep i guess you are right
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
are you still using the hi lo in this video and adding the speed count to it?
1820monster 1 year ago
We are just using Speed Count in this video
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
This is a system equivalent of counting all the low cards. If you only bet big on +30 for a 2 Decks shoe, then you'll never be betting big. Why? Simple math:
There's 40 small cards in a 2 Deck shoe. If 30 of the 40 cards are out, you will most likely already have hit the penetration. It will take ((40-30) / #players) rounds before you stop having the chance of getting an edge near the end of the shoe.
This system is nearly the same of counting all the low cards and bet big if none are left.
foreshadow20 1 year ago
Sorry but you are wrong. Especially in a two deck show, you can start betting big rather quickly. What is the reason of trying to put holes holes in Speed Count when there aren't any! It will not give you as high of an edge as HI LO..but you have to be playing Hi Lo perfectly and most people CAN'T. It is the simplest way to count cards ever devised and easy to learn. If you want to gain an edge at blackjack quick and easily...learn Speed Count
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
weren't you on breaking vegas?
sirrisreview 1 year ago
Yes, The history channel on their show "Breaking Vegas" did a one hour documentary on my life beating the casinos. They did a lot of research to prove I was legit and I did what people say I can do! Thanks!
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
Speed Count is what is called an unbalanced system. Hi Lo does just use cards, but that is where the mistakes are likely to happen. Speed Count is much easier to learn and do accurately
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
Actually both are logical
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
Nice card counting tricks. One should know how to count the cards while he is playing the game.
bratlue 1 year ago
Very impressive and educational video, i think to play proper black jack one should learn perfect skills to count the cards so that while playing player should not face any difficulties.
bratlue 1 year ago
That is what I say, If you are going to put hard earned money on the line and gamble with it, you should play with an edge
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
Guys i need help
when should i bet high and when should i bet less ??
TheDavy16 1 year ago
You bet high when the count is high and you bet low when the count is low
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
this guy is full of shit
ScreetProductions 1 year ago
Such an original thought.
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
would it be more of an advantage if we also include the number 7 as a plus count? (like in the KO)
asianseamonkey 1 year ago
Why are you trying to improve on something that has been tested with billions of sims?
Answer is NO
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
There are advantages and disadvantages to using different card counting methods. Simpler methods like the Speed Count are easier to use, but the advantage is smaller. More challenging methods like the Hi Lo and KO count offer a higher advantage, but you're more likely to make mistakes.
MONOPOLY35 1 year ago
You are exactly correct! Speed Count is simpler and easier, but will give you a less of an advantage than HI LO. We state that right out. IMHO, the amount of people that can play HI Lo perfectly though is in the minuscule amount, so it is just not worth it
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
So if the starting count is +30 on a 2 deck game, what is it on a 6 deck game, +90? Let me know and i just might buy your book =] I'm just a bit skeptical because this seems too easy to be true
asianseamonkey 1 year ago
The starting count would be 27 on a 6 deck show
It is easy to do and we killed them in AC
this weekend on their 6 deck!
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 1 year ago
When I play blackjack, one of the player's cards is always facedown. o_O Can I counteract this?
sliverofshadows475 2 years ago
What you do in any counting system, is count the cards from players that have busted and wait till the dealer turns their cards and then the player's card that have not busted to count the face down card
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 2 years ago
ya 10-K is minus (depending on system). this system, you could count the whole deck and have a plus count. wheres the minus? u should have a ZERO by the end of the deck
tehninja6 2 years ago
You are thinking of a balanced count system, this is an unbalanced count. People can try to put holes in speed count, but they can't. Speed Count gives you a verifiable edge but is simpler to learn. No one says that the edge is greater than Hi Lo, but it is simpler to learn
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 2 years ago
This is a bad card counting system. It doesnt take into account 10s and face cards
phenomballer666 2 years ago
Bad...so your definition of a bad card counting system is what? Speed Count gives you a verifiable edge in the game..this is bad???....and it is simpler and faster to learn that any other card counting system...this is bad?....
goldentouchadvantage 2 years ago
ALL card counting is simple some just take more time to learn. I would advice putting this time in if you intend on going to a casino to use it.
phenomballer666 2 years ago
HI-LO is still alot more accurate
pup101 2 years ago
Hi Lo will give you a slightly bigger edge, no one said it wouldn't...BUT...you must be able to play Hi Lo PERFECTLY and many people they do but don't. Speed Count is easier and you won't make mistakes as most people do with HI Lo
DOminator
goldentouchadvantage 2 years ago
well HI-LO is easy enough.... this count does not seem like it would work that well
pup101 2 years ago
Hi Lo is not easy to learn...If you think it easy then you probably are not being accurate weith your count.
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 2 years ago
actually im pretty good at my counts i mess up sometimes im not gonna lie but its working out for me so far ....i can count a deck in 30 seconds so far and i remember most of the major plays of HI-LO ....its not gonna be easy to learn which is true but it will be one of the easiest methods you will find among the most accurate ones..i mean it is easy enough that a person can just practice for awhile and learn it well..HI-OPT 2 would be hard because even with great practice you can mess up easily
pup101 2 years ago
Good luck to you!
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 2 years ago
look im not saying your way sucks but i cant see it working since youll always get a positive number so there is no balance between high or low cards.
pup101 2 years ago
I know that You just are thinking of Hi Lo that gives you a negative number. When we start a count we use a big number number...30 in a 2 deck game...We do this because when we do subtract at the end we will always get a positive number. If the number we get is above 30 we have a "positive count" and put out a big bet. If the number is below 30 we have a "negative count" (using your terms) and we put out a min bet. If we started lower we would have a neg #,but Neg#'s always confused most people
goldentouchadvantage 2 years ago
o ok now it makes more sense but ....but thatll take alot longer to work than the HI-LO count especially in a 6 deck game
pup101 2 years ago
Not really. I played Hi Lo for many years and new 150 different indexes. I only use SC now and have for the last 4 years. It is just so much easier and no mistakes are made. I can have a beer and not worry about where I am in the count. But listen, if Hi Lo works for you, then continue to use it. Good luck!
Dominator
goldentouchadvantage 2 years ago
Hi Dominator....So basically, the higher the count, the more I should bet...And what difference does it make if we're playing with 1 deck or 3-4 decks?....
If my count is 0 or 1, then what do i do?
paratrip 2 years ago