The reason why a sportsman can't say the f**ot word and a musician can is because it is perceived as a swear word or something inapropriate. On a sports cort players come not to swear and enjoy their freedom of speech but to play a sports game. Singing on the other hand is all about freedom of speech and swearing if you want (minors won't be allowed to listen) and expressing what you feel, these are two very different things she's comparing not to sure what point she's trying to make.
If you're offended about something then you're offended. I don't think it matters how many gay fans or friends the person has, it's still offensive. No music is being banned over it, I think Sara is just saying think about what you're saying as it might hurt someone.
Sara is awesome for putting her opinion out there. Like Tegan said, "just think about it". They're not exactly screaming for revenge or justice, Sara was just putting her opinion (which on the whole I agree with btw) into the public eye because she felt like it wasn't being represented. And for the people who say "if you don't like it, don't listen to it", it's getting kinda hard to be involved in music without some artist similar to this blasting into your ears. Just saying.
syd is a lesbian, and its people like these dumbasses who ban the music i love just because "you" dont like, well they wouldnt of won an award if people didnt like it, what if they banned there music cause there lesbians its same shit
this is so stupid n ignorant as fuck, there talking about there freedom of speech i but then baging tyler for his wtf if you dont like the music then easy as this
1.Dont listen to it
2.dont listen to it
3. DONT FUCKING LISTEN TO IT
like honestly hes talented as hell he mad off his work from scratch these chicks cover song he never covered shit, and so you know there are gay fan of tylers who listen to him explian that, syd whos the only girl in odd future
@ThisreallyIsBullshit stop spreading your crazy ideals of liberty, choice, and freedom that's very evil and will make it a law for you to not be able to say it.
ahh pure words<3 im so glad there are people like this, who address the media about these things like homophobia, racism, censorship etc. its really important. i dont like being the one to get in fights with people and arguments too. but i absoluetly agree. things like this are just simply pushed aside and its not fair to the people who disagree and dont have a say.
@itsolive1 lol I love it how you put word like "homophobia" and racism in together like their the same or similar thing. Me and you are free to believe whatever we want to believe when it comes to religion and other things, my religion says that homosexuality is wrong and people shouldn't do it. Don't tell me that it's any type of homophobia or phobia those are just words invented by people to make something look correct... It's my religion and I think ur crazy to put it with racism
@PiercingKnight im not trying to start anything at all, i didnt put homophobia and racism together intentionally i was just showing different examples of stupid fights people fight about. I totally agree with you that we are free to say what we want and believe whatever we want what im saying is we shouldnt fight about it just be peaceful and happy even though there will never be world peace i know that If thats part of your religion then i respect that but i have the freedom to say what i want
@dannyMY57 um I don’t know that much about it, all I know was that Sara was tired of other musicians using words like “faggot” and homophobic references, such as Tyler the creator so she wrote a open letter on there website addressing the issue, mainly about Tyler I think, the letter should be on the website so you can go see that.
Tyler replied on twitter I think something along the lines of; If Tegan and Sara need some hard dick up them, hit me up! -.-so yeah that’s all I know.
Don't take offense to it u faggs god they r just jealous they didn't get a vmA award ughhh grow up one of Tyler best friends syd the kid is. A lesbian how about u get All of ur facts straight and then write a "letter"
You can't compare music to being on a basketball court. As Tyler has said countless times, he doesn't believe in or partake in any of the things he sings about. His music is supposed to be a story. It's not real, it's more similar to a movie. Tyler has a homosexual friends and fans, so if they don't care, tegan and Sarah shouldn't care.
@TheCoolCatsClub except that, just like their are people that are self-directed enough to distinguish between stories, lyrics and actual real life ethics, morals, and perspectives. There are also a lot of people who do not, and music being something that many people relate to, use as therapy and comfort and company, can form deep "bonds" to certain bands and artist, and their music and in turn acquire their perspectives.
@noirshore So for someone, be them young and impressionable or lost and malleable those hate filled "stories" have an huge impact on shaping their views, and them as a person. If music wasn't such an influential form of expression..we wouldn't be here discussing why or why not it will influence others. Because it does, and it should not be swept under a rug. and just saying..Idgaf about vma's, I never even watch them.
@noirshore I could care less which artists get a trophy for being popular. In my personal opinion a true music artist is one I can relate to, be inspired by, and admire.
No one should be fined by any organization for anything. First Amendment rights include the ability to be offensive. If people want to fight ignorant, idiotic hate speech (redundant) then they should just not listen to the speaker. Freedom of expression is not limited to what's inoffensive. The free expression of ideas includes horrible things and people should be free to say them. But the rest of us should be free to not listen or reward that kind of behavior.
I praise tegan for writing such a powerful letter :) although I slightly disagree with her first point about the seriousness of the matter. I feel like anti-semitism is a more serious problem than misogynism or homophobism. Simply because of how horrible the holocaust was and how scary it is that some would still hold nazi beliefs. Don't get me wrong though, homophobics and misogynists are terrible little people.
@GabGabGabberz No it didn't seem confrontational at all :) and I totally respect your opinion. I probably just hold such strong opinions against nazi-ism because I have lost countless polish relatives to the massacres; and you are right, jews weren't the only ones targeted by nazi's, but they were the ones killed by the millions. I just feel like it is a bit more of a serious topic because their has never been a movement of this degree against gays or women (not to make light of those matter).
These two are just like everyone else, they listen to one song from Odd Future and instantly place them in the category of homophobic or sexist despite them doing many interviews and songs where they blatantly tell people, "It's for entertainment. None of it is true and none of it reflects my true intentions or feelings."
@TheAssassinAce As a quick add on to that, it's like when people thought Phil Collins' song In The Air Tonight was about something completely different than what he said it was about in interviews because people won't actually go to the source for meaning.
@TheAssassinAce No, is not like that. Have you not payed attention to the interview at least? The actual point is not even about Odd Future or Tyler, he is just used as a (obvious) example, part cos he is probably the one getting the most media attention . And who said they are homophobic? Sara's post named 'Call for a change' was more like her reaction to the fact that homophobic and sexist slurs and themes in music are seemingly getting more and more accepted and tolerated by the media.
I agree with Sara 100%. It is disgusting that people make idols of people like tyler the creator and brush aside what they are actually saying. It really is just a bunch of homophobic and sexist comments strung together between a heap of swear words.. They don't get in trouble? And people enjoy listening to it? What a strange world we live in. :/
I admire the clarity, conviction, and frankness Sara speaks with when discussing serious and meaningful issues. She speaks her mind very eloquently, that is always something I strive for. Also, I obviously wish her good health, but I can't help but love the raspy voice going on.
@MoracularWorld there's a huge difference between members of an oppressed group embracing derogatory terms to fuel their own empowerment and members of a privileged group using the same terms to fuel homophobia, sexism, racism etc.
look, i understand the history of the word faggot and the word nigga. but this is a very different generation currently coming to of age. i'm not saying all of my generation is like this, but in certain people in my gerenation have effectively desensitized these words, just like generations have done before with slurs. i have black friends with whom i toss around "nigga" and nobody thinks about it. i have gay friends with whom we toss around "faggot" and theres not feelings
sara raises a good point too, i've never thought about that before. definitely doesn't make sense that you can get fined for saying things if you're an athlete but it's shrugged off if you're a musician.
@teganandsara143 Ya, it's on their official website, you just have to scroll back through their entries and search for it.
Nice piece of interview.
And Sara enforced pretty well the actual idea and point of that letter. Sara you should never feel bad about posting that letter, even if it got more bad reactions then good, witch i'm pretty sure it didn't :)
And they are both so hot and all that good stuff . Sara is killing me, still; just had to throw that in there.
Really they wrote so many songs they play like...once at a concert and never again because it didn't make the record for whatever reason..and these songs are amazing too. I think we should get everything these talented goddesses do :D
that long hair is so.. NOT Tegan! :| prefer her with short hair
rerejayjay 1 day ago
@rerejayjay i thought the same thing, but I do like her 'new' long hair- like in the bodywork video
caroline4231 1 day ago
OFWGKTA FUCK you FAGS
mrdesrt100 2 days ago
The reason why a sportsman can't say the f**ot word and a musician can is because it is perceived as a swear word or something inapropriate. On a sports cort players come not to swear and enjoy their freedom of speech but to play a sports game. Singing on the other hand is all about freedom of speech and swearing if you want (minors won't be allowed to listen) and expressing what you feel, these are two very different things she's comparing not to sure what point she's trying to make.
PiercingKnight 4 days ago
If you're offended about something then you're offended. I don't think it matters how many gay fans or friends the person has, it's still offensive. No music is being banned over it, I think Sara is just saying think about what you're saying as it might hurt someone.
fellieni 1 week ago
Sara is awesome for putting her opinion out there. Like Tegan said, "just think about it". They're not exactly screaming for revenge or justice, Sara was just putting her opinion (which on the whole I agree with btw) into the public eye because she felt like it wasn't being represented. And for the people who say "if you don't like it, don't listen to it", it's getting kinda hard to be involved in music without some artist similar to this blasting into your ears. Just saying.
rozle27 1 week ago
syd is a lesbian, and its people like these dumbasses who ban the music i love just because "you" dont like, well they wouldnt of won an award if people didnt like it, what if they banned there music cause there lesbians its same shit
ThisreallyIsBullshit 1 week ago
this is so stupid n ignorant as fuck, there talking about there freedom of speech i but then baging tyler for his wtf if you dont like the music then easy as this
1.Dont listen to it
2.dont listen to it
3. DONT FUCKING LISTEN TO IT
like honestly hes talented as hell he mad off his work from scratch these chicks cover song he never covered shit, and so you know there are gay fan of tylers who listen to him explian that, syd whos the only girl in odd future
ThisreallyIsBullshit 1 week ago
@ThisreallyIsBullshit stop spreading your crazy ideals of liberty, choice, and freedom that's very evil and will make it a law for you to not be able to say it.
PiercingKnight 3 days ago
ahh pure words<3 im so glad there are people like this, who address the media about these things like homophobia, racism, censorship etc. its really important. i dont like being the one to get in fights with people and arguments too. but i absoluetly agree. things like this are just simply pushed aside and its not fair to the people who disagree and dont have a say.
itsolive1 2 weeks ago
@itsolive1 lol I love it how you put word like "homophobia" and racism in together like their the same or similar thing. Me and you are free to believe whatever we want to believe when it comes to religion and other things, my religion says that homosexuality is wrong and people shouldn't do it. Don't tell me that it's any type of homophobia or phobia those are just words invented by people to make something look correct... It's my religion and I think ur crazy to put it with racism
PiercingKnight 3 days ago
@PiercingKnight im not trying to start anything at all, i didnt put homophobia and racism together intentionally i was just showing different examples of stupid fights people fight about. I totally agree with you that we are free to say what we want and believe whatever we want what im saying is we shouldnt fight about it just be peaceful and happy even though there will never be world peace i know that If thats part of your religion then i respect that but i have the freedom to say what i want
itsolive1 2 days ago
Tegan And Sara got beef with Tyler, The Creator? I never knew that. Anyone kind enough to tell me what's going on?
dannyMY57 4 weeks ago 2
@dannyMY57 um I don’t know that much about it, all I know was that Sara was tired of other musicians using words like “faggot” and homophobic references, such as Tyler the creator so she wrote a open letter on there website addressing the issue, mainly about Tyler I think, the letter should be on the website so you can go see that.
Tyler replied on twitter I think something along the lines of; If Tegan and Sara need some hard dick up them, hit me up! -.-so yeah that’s all I know.
…:c
Louisiannnahelloo 2 weeks ago
Sara's voice <3
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Don't take offense to it u faggs god they r just jealous they didn't get a vmA award ughhh grow up one of Tyler best friends syd the kid is. A lesbian how about u get All of ur facts straight and then write a "letter"
AnnaMitchee 1 month ago
You can't compare music to being on a basketball court. As Tyler has said countless times, he doesn't believe in or partake in any of the things he sings about. His music is supposed to be a story. It's not real, it's more similar to a movie. Tyler has a homosexual friends and fans, so if they don't care, tegan and Sarah shouldn't care.
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@TheCoolCatsClub except that, just like their are people that are self-directed enough to distinguish between stories, lyrics and actual real life ethics, morals, and perspectives. There are also a lot of people who do not, and music being something that many people relate to, use as therapy and comfort and company, can form deep "bonds" to certain bands and artist, and their music and in turn acquire their perspectives.
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@noirshore So for someone, be them young and impressionable or lost and malleable those hate filled "stories" have an huge impact on shaping their views, and them as a person. If music wasn't such an influential form of expression..we wouldn't be here discussing why or why not it will influence others. Because it does, and it should not be swept under a rug. and just saying..Idgaf about vma's, I never even watch them.
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@noirshore I could care less which artists get a trophy for being popular. In my personal opinion a true music artist is one I can relate to, be inspired by, and admire.
noirshore 1 month ago
I hate Tyler and wolf gang !
Thank you Tegan and Sara <3
ilyxDummyAngel 1 month ago 2
Being articulate is a turn on.
Whedongrl2 1 month ago 4
No one should be fined by any organization for anything. First Amendment rights include the ability to be offensive. If people want to fight ignorant, idiotic hate speech (redundant) then they should just not listen to the speaker. Freedom of expression is not limited to what's inoffensive. The free expression of ideas includes horrible things and people should be free to say them. But the rest of us should be free to not listen or reward that kind of behavior.
PaladinHero 1 month ago
Jesus they're fabulous
Elizaisgrand 1 month ago
for all tegan and sara fans!
if tyler the creater needs some hard d**k, hit me up!
syednadir 1 month ago 3
sara Looks netter :- but She has short hairs :(
Ashleyfanone 1 month ago
I praise tegan for writing such a powerful letter :) although I slightly disagree with her first point about the seriousness of the matter. I feel like anti-semitism is a more serious problem than misogynism or homophobism. Simply because of how horrible the holocaust was and how scary it is that some would still hold nazi beliefs. Don't get me wrong though, homophobics and misogynists are terrible little people.
dairylandbogurt 1 month ago
@dairylandbogurt Other people (including homosexuals) were attacked in the holocaust, not just the Jewish.
In my opinion, any form of discrimination should all be taken equally seriously because any matter is an important matter when it comes to a life.
Btw, I don't want you to feel that I called you out and I apologize if my reply sounded too confrontational.
GabGabGabberz 1 month ago
@GabGabGabberz No it didn't seem confrontational at all :) and I totally respect your opinion. I probably just hold such strong opinions against nazi-ism because I have lost countless polish relatives to the massacres; and you are right, jews weren't the only ones targeted by nazi's, but they were the ones killed by the millions. I just feel like it is a bit more of a serious topic because their has never been a movement of this degree against gays or women (not to make light of those matter).
dairylandbogurt 1 month ago
@dairylandbogurt I understand and see where you're coming from :)
GabGabGabberz 1 month ago
@GabGabGabberz Thank you for being so civil :) tegan and sara fans are always so pleasant. Even in a disagreement :P
dairylandbogurt 1 month ago
'i didn't say put him in jail' <-- lol, Tyler DID get put in jail!! Tegan i love you <3
96lizzie69 1 month ago
I find Sara so inspiring and empowering in that last bit. Awesome.
SermonsInStones 1 month ago
Well Said Sara
ShawnJadefan19 1 month ago
These two are just like everyone else, they listen to one song from Odd Future and instantly place them in the category of homophobic or sexist despite them doing many interviews and songs where they blatantly tell people, "It's for entertainment. None of it is true and none of it reflects my true intentions or feelings."
TheAssassinAce 2 months ago
@TheAssassinAce As a quick add on to that, it's like when people thought Phil Collins' song In The Air Tonight was about something completely different than what he said it was about in interviews because people won't actually go to the source for meaning.
TheAssassinAce 2 months ago
@TheAssassinAce No, is not like that. Have you not payed attention to the interview at least? The actual point is not even about Odd Future or Tyler, he is just used as a (obvious) example, part cos he is probably the one getting the most media attention . And who said they are homophobic? Sara's post named 'Call for a change' was more like her reaction to the fact that homophobic and sexist slurs and themes in music are seemingly getting more and more accepted and tolerated by the media.
Gammaflaj 1 month ago
@Gammaflaj 'A call for change' more exactly, my bad, anyways...
Gammaflaj 1 month ago
@estebeasto...i differ with you in that i DO care what they're saying, but i couldn't agree more that they look DELICIOUS! :]
TheBaileyde 2 months ago
I love these twins! They kind of have an uncanny resemblance to Jared Leto lol
mo42086 2 months ago
i love their voices
mycandiebopaudrey 2 months ago
im on lovvvee <3
mycandiebopaudrey 2 months ago
I don't really care what they say... they look pretty delicious though
Estebeasto 2 months ago
i love those girls <3
phantomlover13 2 months ago 4
Search Bastard and Inglorious by Tyler The Creator then say he's a homophic rapist.
SuperThroatpuncher 2 months ago
You go girls!!!
greengal1990 2 months ago
miss tegan's old hair
queenofalmosts 2 months ago
Sara said it so well. And Tegan looks beautiful with longer hair:)
1073kat 2 months ago
Is it me or does Tegan look incredible in this video?
etm352 2 months ago
I agree with Sara 100%. It is disgusting that people make idols of people like tyler the creator and brush aside what they are actually saying. It really is just a bunch of homophobic and sexist comments strung together between a heap of swear words.. They don't get in trouble? And people enjoy listening to it? What a strange world we live in. :/
MsAbigail1995 2 months ago 4
GOLF WANG.
TonytheTurtlePTV 2 months ago
I admire the clarity, conviction, and frankness Sara speaks with when discussing serious and meaningful issues. She speaks her mind very eloquently, that is always something I strive for. Also, I obviously wish her good health, but I can't help but love the raspy voice going on.
KELSCENE 2 months ago 5
does anyone know what version of walking with a ghost is playing in the background of the interview?
lilteenyweenytuna 2 months ago
@lilteenyweenytuna ...That was Back In Your Head.
ILikeMusicize 2 months ago
i love sara's voice. Oh and her letter. Such a good letter.
lilteenyweenytuna 2 months ago
I just love to hear what they have to say <3 But the 3 songs they sang with this interview need to be uploaded! They were AMAZING!
And I love Tegan's comment "just think about it, I didnt say put them in jail" She's funny and SO cute! <3
missburn 2 months ago
@MoracularWorld there's a huge difference between members of an oppressed group embracing derogatory terms to fuel their own empowerment and members of a privileged group using the same terms to fuel homophobia, sexism, racism etc.
ffallacious 2 months ago 3
This.
TheAJMobileChannel 2 months ago
i like people who think that saying "well my friends don't care", is a valid basis for an argument ._.
HuNoGerdDemmit 2 months ago 2
they're annoying
look, i understand the history of the word faggot and the word nigga. but this is a very different generation currently coming to of age. i'm not saying all of my generation is like this, but in certain people in my gerenation have effectively desensitized these words, just like generations have done before with slurs. i have black friends with whom i toss around "nigga" and nobody thinks about it. i have gay friends with whom we toss around "faggot" and theres not feelings
MoracularWorld 2 months ago
still waiting for new matrial from these two. Love them!
Rizzolification 2 months ago
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clancym1 2 months ago
We need to make a stand for who we are
TeganandSarafan23 2 months ago
theyre so flawless jesus christ
sara raises a good point too, i've never thought about that before. definitely doesn't make sense that you can get fined for saying things if you're an athlete but it's shrugged off if you're a musician.
xpaige87 3 months ago
Anyone know where to find Sara's letter?
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@teganandsara143 Ya, it's on their official website, you just have to scroll back through their entries and search for it.
Nice piece of interview.
And Sara enforced pretty well the actual idea and point of that letter. Sara you should never feel bad about posting that letter, even if it got more bad reactions then good, witch i'm pretty sure it didn't :)
And they are both so hot and all that good stuff . Sara is killing me, still; just had to throw that in there.
Gammaflaj 2 months ago 15
@Gammaflaj Just read it, AMAZING. Thanks :) And I wouldn't deny, Sara kills.
teganandsara143 2 months ago
@teganandsara143 easy to find. googlesearch "sara from tegan and sara about tyler the creator" and the first one from stereogum
DasKnalltuetchen 2 months ago
I'm glad these ladies exist.
ophy4 3 months ago
why are they so smart?? <3 love them
paperbackhead22 3 months ago 2
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v1deom 3 months ago
'just think about it, i didnt say put them in jail' cute! only Tegan can do that :)
edytkaswirek 3 months ago 43
GOLF WANG
ryanfoley123 3 months ago
I love the albums in the background, never thought that I would see anything stones-related in a t&s video :)
sixtieschick5 3 months ago
Really they wrote so many songs they play like...once at a concert and never again because it didn't make the record for whatever reason..and these songs are amazing too. I think we should get everything these talented goddesses do :D
Just looove them <3
DasKnalltuetchen 3 months ago
I love you :)
iGoBOMMIE 3 months ago 3