A 32 pound bucket of tomatoes cost $79.63 at the supermarket. The farmworker who picked that bucket was paid, on average, $.50 for that bucket. 50 divided by 79.63 equals, rounding up, 0.0063. That means that farmworkers earn roughly one half of one percent (0.63%) of the final price of a pound of tomatoes at the checkout counter. 99.5% of the final price of tomatoes goes to everyone else in the supply chain, with the lion's share going to the corporate supermarket, like Publix or WalMart.
Everything you say up to 3:11 in the video is right on. Once you start getting to the part of wages, working conditions and prices of food, however, you gotta start digging a little deeper. Start asking, who is paying poverty wages to farmworkers and who is getting the profits? Growers pay .35-.45 per 32 pound bucket of tomatoes. Yet tomatoes are sold for around $2 a pound at the store. Where is all of that profit going?
It makes me depressed to think that not only does an American post something like this but that he has so much support fro mother Americans. This is why we will be a third world nation in 50 years...maybe less. They DO utilize public money and they DON'T pay into it. Just the fact that they pay sales tax does NOT mean they are entitled to services by the government. Shame on you and all of you that think they are justified in receiving these services. They are a drain and you are the leak.
Sure I'm a sociology major. Sure the majority of the undocumented are hard workers and do want a good living without living off the government. I know that from my own personal experience with undocumented people. Here in California, YOU HAVE TO BE a citizen or a legal resident to apply for medicaid, food stamps, workforce, general assistance, TANF, and all that. But, we can't deny that certain number of the undocumented are still wrecking the economy by breeding kids and crowding schools.
You got to be out of your fucking mind! illegals do do shit for me or put food on my table. if they can do it for me, then why don't you fucking take your asses back home and do it for yourself there?! you pick strawberries? big fucking deal. that is not what makes this country work. BLACK AFRICAN SLAVES BUILT THIS COUNTY OK, YOUR DAMN STRAWBERRY PICKING DOES NOT COMPARE TO WHAT THE SLAVES HAVE DONE HERE! mexicans and all illegals are draining this country, taking and not giving anything back.
ILLEGALS DO NOT PAY INCOME TAXES, FEDERAL TAXES, STATE TAX, SOCIAL SECURITY TAX. SALES TAX DOES NOT CONSTITUTE BEING A TAXPAYER. THE SALE TAXES THEY PAY IS FROM THE WELFARE BENEFITS THAT ARE GIVEN TO THEM. SO WHAT ARE THEY PAYING? ITS LIKE VEGAS, GAMBLING WITH THE CASINO'S MONEY.
@justicecarly clearly you know nothing next time just keep your retaded comment in your head at least that way your ignorance isnt shown for the world to see
@5042024 it's you that don't know what you are talking about! guess your insipid ass is one of those illegals who claim they are paying taxes. what INCOME TAXES ARE YOU PAYING NITWIT?!? you should considering keeping your fucking mouth shut so then you can be mistaking for a horse and let your ass out!
@justicecarly wow what an inteligent comment you really told me unlike your moranic comment im right/ im of hispanic decent and i go to stores like cardenas el tapatio etc where about 95% of the TAX PAYING CONSUMERS ARE OF HISPANIC DECENT not all are illegals but EVERYBODY pays the same taxes that includes ALL ILLEGALS when you pay for gas at the pump and see illegals pumping gas guess what THEYRE PAYING TAXES see the point EVERYBODY PAYS taxes including illegals
@5042024 you pay SALES TAX not INCOME TAX OR FEDERAL TAX, OR FOR SOCIAL SECURITY OR DISABILITY OR UNEMPLOYMENT!!! FOR THE RECORD; I'M OF PUERTO RICAN DECENT!!!
SO I GUESS IT IS YOU THAT THE FUCKING MORON NOW!!!
@justicecarly wow your just plain dumb im sorry if i insulted you i didnt know your iQ was so low/ok ill put in simple terms most illegal imm HAVE to get FAKE SS #S in order to get hired by most companys/a company cant show profit without showing the proof(unless they do business under the table)so when the illegal gets his paycheck guess what happens he gets deducted into unemployement federal etc taxes on that paycheck so yes you are dumb sorry to point out the truth
@justicecarly 1 more thing on that for every illegal that gets hired in CA with a fake ss# the employer has to pay taxes to/ look im anti illegal i know how they do things like i said we a pay taxes 1 way or onother but they take avantage of our system they get medi care welfare etc when they should not be allowed to even enter the parking lot cause theyre here to work and if theyre in those programs that means theyre a liability thats the problem how is it that an illegal can get benefits?
@5042024 they do, they get free medical care, all of the anchor babies that are born here to illegals. that is how all of the benefits are funneled. through the children they have here. play stupid all you want and they also get section 8 housing. if they are getting paid under the table, how are they paying taxes, other than sales tax whenever they buy shit?
@justicecarly you truly are dumb/ read my comments again i agree with you that they take advantage of the system my personal opinion is we need to fix our systems cuz they do get taken avantage of/ welfare medi care etc are broken they need to be fixed/ 2nd who ever said hispanics are the only illegals that take advantage huh i had an asian girlfriend who use to get welfare and food stamps along with medi care(along with most of her family) and guess what they were more than well off/
@justicecarly TheyPAY income taxes. I would know I am black American married to one. As long as your provide a social fake or real, your employer takes a percentage of your income as federal income tax and other taxes. My husband has paid over 35,000 dollars to this country that he will never see. Open your eyes and get out and investigate the matter and talk to people. Most need a socail or what looks like a social to gain employment even in the kitchen.
@TheHalallamb Keep telling yourself that, with e verify, working under a fake social is very difficult, I have traveled all over and speak 4 languages fluently so if anyone needs to open their eyes is you sweetie, unless you' re paying illegals you don't know what they're paying. Your statement sounds like your spouse is here illegally.
@justicecarly He is undocumented because he was brought over as a child. I know all about e verify. Alot of people in the hispanic immigrant community work in restaurants, hotels, contractors doing construction and so forth.Alot of these places do not use e verify. Most people in this community have fake socials with card to match. Since i live in this community i think I know much more than you regarding this particular subject. I look at his paycheck stubs and he uses ss to pay child support
@justicecarly by the way the illegals that use fake ss numbers easily outnumber those that work under the table so again your point is useless/ finaly you need to open your eyes and see the truth everybody pays taxes one way or another even though they dont pay their fair share they still pay taxes if we only could come up with a solution to keep them from receiving benefits/ if they didnt benefit greedy employers they wouldnt get hired as simple as that/ so dont just blame them either
Tylerdurden790 you forget to mention that illegals lower wages so citizens won't take jobs because greedy company owners bank the money because of illegal workers. You left out the fact that when illegals use the hospitals that don't pay a nickel and that is why when a citizen goes in and gets treated he/she gets billed $40.00 for aspirin, to make of for services rendered on illegals. The hospital I was born in was closed down because of this (bankrupt). I'll pay for the strawberries!
You miss a vital point. If local services are paid for my property and sales tax, then then your not getting much in taxes. Why? Because illegal aliens are under educated and do not make much money, therefore they cannot afford to A. Spend a lot of money, B. Afford costly property, the kind of property that pulls down higher taxes. Also, they often do not possess the assets to improve a property or area. Instead, what you often find is plight.
Okay, you do make some good points there. I do know that there are Undocumented workers that are Mexicans, and I do understand that some illegal Mexicans pay taxes. However, if they are here illegal, they are still breaking the law. That is what I and most people have a problem with. It's hard to feel bad for someone who is breaking the law. They would get a federal refund if they had taken the time and money to apply and get approved for citizenship, it's that simple.
ILLEGALS GET PAID CASH how is that paying taxes? Also I am construction worker illegals are taking our middle class jobs and displacing American workers, don't tell me they take only crummy jobs, THATS A LIE. By the time an illegal family is subsidized with free welfare, free food, free housing, free medical, those $3 strawberries are not worth the $20-$30 dollars in benefits that each illegal collects on our dime, YOU ARE A LIAR, you must be illegal or use illegal labor yourself,
No they are not paying the same at all. Even if they did pay, the amount they pay is very very little and the amount they need in aid is a whole whole lot. The inequity isn't hard to grasp. We need those funds for AMERICANS. We need WIC, welfare, and stamps to go to AMERICANS who need it so they can have a chance. If its spread too thin the system is less effective.
first of all you will reffer to me as YOUR EXCELLENCY when you address me. Second you can consulte your theasaurus as much as you want, but that doesnt change the fact that i have more neurons in my left asscheeck than you have in your hollow skull. Also who the fuck is my ilk? You might find courage in numbers or behind a computer screen but i dont.
and id rather be a failed creation than a hypocrite ape whos first impulse is to fling his shit at anything that reminds him of his own deep rooted insecurities and justifies it by preaching GOD.
Why should I heed the words of a mistake of God, such as yourself. Your continued failure & your ilk's failure to progress is proof that you're nothing more than a waste of resources & air on this planet. What's sad is that animal activists will cry foul if we attempted euthanizing you off the face of the planet, although it'd be doing Mother Nature the favor she's been attempting for centuries. Too bad Cortez didn't finish the job when he had the chance.
Go skullfuck yourself with a brick & hope that maybe the animals of your ilk gain some intellect from it. At this point - you're the biggest fail in creation & amongst God's creation.
@cpw91206 let me get this straight you are the only living decendant of the ice age retards depicted in that documentary. Good for you... P.s. Cpw as in water and power? Somewhere in the valley right? Anyway fuck you, fuck your high rates and fuck your bullshit theories.
Contrary to the perceptions that illegal aliens don't pay payroll taxes, CIS estimates that more than 1/2 of illegals work "on the books." On avg, illegal households pay more than $4,200 / yr in all forms of fed taxes. Unfortunately, they impose costs of $6,950 / household.
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by Steven A. Camarota, Research Director at the Center for Immigration Studies, Washington, DC
@cwp91206 you dont uderstand... Im talking about YOUR ancestors, people YOU can trace your ancestry to.not some neanderthal european who got lost. Unless ofcourse your ancestors were neanderthal europeans in wich case i apoligize.
If thats the game u racist fucks wanna play. Ok. I can trace my ancestry in mexico for atlest 15 generations thats roughly 300 years..long berfore the the mayflower, before the u.s. Before mexico..so GET THE FUCK OFF MY CONTINENT!!!!
@ElCarnicero91 I have some bad news for you. See my playlist-
Ice Age Columbus: Who Were the First Americans?
This may not please you ethnocentric wing-nuts who use the "we were here first" canard to justify illegal immigration by "your people," but this documentary offers proof of the now decade-old and revolutionary finding that white Europeans arrived in North American very long ago, over 5,000 years before the Siberian Asiatic ancestors of "Native Americans" did. ;P
These common everyday lemmings latch onto short little snippets of ideals & 1/2 truths. The most common one amongst these idiots is "EVERYONE is an immigrant in America OMGWTFBBQ!!!" They never seem to grasp the concept that most immigrants-turned-American don't need the suffix, they're just Americans now. They didn't come over here with the express intent of pumping out babies & getting paid for it , & they support the economy.
$17 billion dollars a year spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies. h t t p : / / transcripts . cnn . com / TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01 . html
@cwp91206 To you they are anchor babies but to me they are Americans. Its like calling you an achor baby cause your ancestors were not originaly Americans. These kids need a passport to go the their parents homeland and you wanna call them anchor babies?
$90 billion dollars a year spent on illegal aliens for welfare & social services by the American taxpayers. premium . cnn . com / TRANSCRIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01 . html
this guy is full of shit, down here in florida the illegals i know and have worked with live in apts or rental units with as many as 15 mexicans or south americans , they dont seek the same way of life as americans do because they are trying to send their money home. the 35 bilion they send back to mexico would do more good being spent here and on top of that the remittences allow the mexican goverment to do nothing about the poorness of its citizens
@C6co66 they pay payroll taxes wich dont amount to shit, they pay alittle bit into social security and medicaid medicare, the majority of taxes that are collected are income taxes, and unless you make over 28,000 a year as individual or around 38k if your married , you dont pay shit in income taxes, on top of that their emergency room visits are driving up the cost of health care for those of us who actually pay for it
yall racist fucks owe us lol i like to see yall racist ignorant gud for nothin fucks try to go pick up fruits and veggies on fields that are full of fuckin chemicals on a hot ass day.... pshhh yall niggas call us lazy? nigga i had 3 jobs bitch and i was goin to school so fuck off. we havent made it through high school?? nigga im college right now and im workin two jobs and im payin for all my expenses. uidk too many kids in my campus that can say that.
@bigsmoke53 why do you talk like such a ignorant bastard, whos the rascist here, you keep saying nigger and bitch and all this other shit, god i hope you dont have any kids, its people like you who ruin this country by raising ignorant fucking kids that i then have to support with my tax dollars
@421slobo first of all u dont fuckin know me... second of all i dont have a kid... and if i do hes gonn be a US citizen lol u dont like it?? too fuckin bad nigguh... i bet if u and i took an IQ test id leave yo ass in da dirt. so fuck off before u wanna talk shyt bout sumone u dont even fuckin kno... trick ass nigga, btw im not racist, im mnexican u dumb fuck, and where im from is rl common for mexicans to say "nigga" not "nigg*r".
Illegal aliens have a unique, gangster-style vision of the American Dream - emboldened by globalist corporatists who cant do without their indentured servants. In the illegal aliens corrupt minds, it makes perfect sense, logically & morally, to ignore America's borders, laws (immigration, employment, income tax, & others stopping them from pursuing their greater objective). They feel entitled to pursue their own personal enrichment @ the expense of the American citizen, worker & taxpayer.
Better to pay an American a living wage for a job than allow an Outlaw Employer to profit at OUR expense. The slight increase in cost to the consumer is offset by the job and income received by the American worker. By paying a living wage to the American worker, taxpayers save by not having to provide benefits to the illegal aliens who have to rely on social services because they're not paid enough to support themselves and their dependents. That's a de facto subsidy to the Outlaw Employer.
@mikemyers211 see the comments section on my channel page. I list lots of points with their sources. Here is an example-"Today, criminal aliens account for over 29 percent of prisoners in Federal Bureau of Prisons facilities and a higher share of all federal prison inmates. These prisoners represent the fastest growing segment of the federal prison population. w w w . fairus . org / site/ PageServer ? pagename = iic _ immigrationissuecenters0b9c." ;P
Your facts come from prejudice idiots who don't get all the facts straight. The immigrants Work for low wages at intense jobs which would mean that their bosses eventually pay their taxes as well. It's like if you were getting paid minimum wage but getting 2 dollars deducted every hour to pay off taxes. This guy on top is a great american who does his research before arguing and making any comment. Immigrants wind up paying more taxes and supplying america with service. It's not going to be free
@MrJuanatx512 no way, Jose. Take a look at the factoids I lost in the comments section of my channel page. I show the source for each one, and they have a lot more credibility than you do.
@MrJuanatx512 Illegal aliens DON'T deserve our sympathy. When they claim they have to come here, it's like a bank robber saying he has to rob a bank, or a rapist saying the woman wanted it.
The criminality of illegal aliens doesn't stop when they cross they border. It continues. They engage in crime whenever it benefits them and they can get away with it.
@cwp91206 Your just assuming things without proof you idiot. It's like me saying americans are lazy bums. And how do you compare them to robbers dumbass. They work and perform a service which is not free. Slavery is banned for your information and Services cost money. Telling immigrants who come here to survive is like telling starving children and haitians to fix they're own problem and find they're own food.
@MrJuanatx512 An eye-opening and very disturbing report which stands as a stark reality check against the "family values don't stop at the border" bullshit which features widespread Latino incest and absentee fathers who very often are dropouts, criminals, gang members, drug addicts and prison inmates.
h t t p : / / w w w . city-journal . org / html / 16_4_hispanic_family_values . html
400,000 anchor babies cost taxpayers big time! At $6,000.00 per delivery in our hospitals where those pregnant alien mothers take themselves to birth their children Xs 400,000 annually: $2.4 billion annually. Yr after yr! If the child suffers from autism, Downs Syndrome, myocardial septal defect (hole in heart), deformity, premature birth in ICU or other problems—the costs =millions
The mother becomes on welfare rolls in assisted housing, food stamps, medical care, welfare
The average illegal immigrant family receives an average of $30,000 in governmental benefits! Yet they pay only about $9,000 in taxes per year. That creates a $21,000 shortfall that the American taxpayer has to make up. That's like buying each of the illegal immigrant families a brand new Mustang convertible -- each and every year!"
Unpaid costs for treating illegals has directly caused the closings of nearly 100 hospitals in California alone. Illegals consume nearly $69 BILLION in social services annually. Children of illegal immigrants cost public schools $28.6 Billion annually. Illegal immigrant labor depresses wages for American citizens by 200 BILLION a year. The cost of illegal immigration to the American taxpayer is $55,000 PER illegal. The total cost annually is over is a whopping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR
fuck you uneducated idiot. If you can't fill out an application you can't come here. That is the law. We don't want Mexico's undesirables in this county. Cheap labor is for the corporations. We need a better class of people, not people that can't pass high school or fill out a simple application to come here legally.
Yeah and they also juice the social services for every penny and that has to be paid by people that earn an income. most of the people working in this offices that give them stamps are hispanic. they speak within their own language and discriminate in these offices. if a white person needs stamps they will have to jump through more hoops to get them. If you are latino and speak spanish you stand a good chance to get social services from the government. even border cops have to speak spanish
OF COURSE THEY PAY TAXES..here in nj wellfare is full of port ricans , they are citizens don't work and have everything ..they still citizens ..the child of a illegal mother is citizen. by birth.have rights..a citizen pay taxes have refund..illegal pay taxes have nothing ..where is that money they work and pay..U use?..who use?..
1. bosses can provide them houses to work for free (true) 2. sales tax they could steal 3. only 2% of produce jobs are worked by illegal immigrants 4. Illegal immigrants are not doing it for us 5. even if they were good hard working illegal immigrants they are still criminal THEY ARE ILLEGAL
@MaDuke, I'm sure it's not easy to become an American Citizen, I've heard that it can take 10 years, and that it costs a lot of money. However, many immigrants do this every year, including Mexican Immigrants that respect our laws. By the way, my parents were born in the United States, in fact to save time and space, my family first Immigrated here from Ireland in 1750 when America wasn't even a country yet. A lot of Americans have the same story, because their ancestors took the time to do so.
@MaDuke, I'm sure they had easy laws back then. I'm not saying that the process is easy for a Mexican to come here, but what would Mexico do to illegal immigrants in their country? Is it easy to get Mexican Citizenship? Is it easy to get citizenship anywhere? This is not an issue of how long anyone has been here but rather that there are some people in the United States that have no respect, and are allowed to break the law on a daily basis, and people advocating for them breaking the law.
@breemystic yeah you're an immigrant who has little choices on how they're going to survive and help their family survive. Marriage between black/white ppl were illegal once, but hey the couples were just dirty criminals right? A starving child who stole bread is nothing more than a criminal and should be punished. 'Cause the law said so right?
@MaDuke, Please don't put words in my mouth, I don't think interracial marriage is bad, and I never have thought that way. As for the child stealing the bread because they were starving, this can apply to the child of an illegal at least until they've taken government in school, children don't know any better and they are not held accountable like adults who full well know the laws. There is a difference.
@MaDuke if Mexicans are allowed to come to the United States permanently and keep their citizenship with Mexico, then I should be able to legally reside in any country I want to without the prior approval of that country. Most countries require an immigrant to get citizenship or approval to live there first. The United States and people against illegals are not being mean, hateful or close minded. A lot of people are just against the attitude of entitlement that illegal mexican immigrants have.
@breemystic "The United States and people against illegals are not being mean, hateful or close minded."
I'm sorry but I know waay too many that are. those are the ones who have a problem w/ immigrants of colour period(they won't say so openly, unless you know them personally, they'll just join the line of other anti immigrants), and i never see them complain about illegal european immigrants. I'm not surprised that neo nazis/kkk join the tea party&anti immigration groups. I would know.
"A lot of people are just against the attitude of entitlement that illegal mexican immigrants have."
I've yet to meet a Mexican w/ that attitude. Have you or are you just going by what others say? I know Mexicans may be the majority, but you can't overlook other immigrants. I wouldn't treat a starving child who stole food as a criminal and the same goes for those who fled their countries for a life they can only dream of.Your ancestors got that chance, so should they.
@MaDuke, ".Your ancestors got that chance, so should they." There is the attitude of entitlement and by the way, just like you can form your opinions on this topic, so can I without anyone's help. The reason why I feel that illegal mexican immigrants feel entitled, is because they have no problem coming to the united states and living here without the government's permission, while other immigrants spend time and money getting citizenship and visas to be here.
@breemystic so when you hear of Mexicans crossing the boarder for survival you read that as a sense of entitlement.. ooook.. If other immigrants lived near the US boarder, they too might think of crossing the boarder. No one wants to wait in line 10+ years.
@MaDuke No one wants to wait in line for up to 10 years to enter the US but many do the work the to do so. To me it's an insult to the Legal Mexican Immigrants that have taken the time to do so. Maybe they should have just taken the easy way out and just lived here illegally, at least that's the way things should be by your logic.
@MaDuke In the meantime, illegal immigrants from different countries come here, and they ignore our laws. A lot of mexican immigrants don't know english, you want to know how I know, because I worked in retail for 5 years, and was required to know spanish so that the illegal mexicans wouldn't have to learn English.
Also about them trying to make a life for their families, I understand that, but I live in a city with a 10% unemployment rate currently, with a factory that only hires illegals...
"I worked in retail for 5 years, and was required to know Spanish so that the illegal Mexicans wouldn't have to learn English."
And during the 5 years you worked there, each one of them told you they were illegal(who does that?)? or are you just assume non English speakers are illegals? I don't see the problem of being bilingual. Ppl of other countries speak more than 2 languages, the U.S.Americans seem to be the only ones that have a problem w/ being educated in a second language
@MaDuke Okay first of all, I know 4 languages, English, French, Spanish and Gaelic. My husband knows German and is teaching me some as well. I also know enough Russian to get around. I have no problem learning a language at all, so please don't generalize and attack me, as I haven't you. The reason why I brought up them not learning English, is that it is a requirement for many countries to be fluent in that country's official language to gain citizenship. That's my only problem with it.
@MaDuke, cont'd from the last, there's a Dole Factory in my city that only hires illegal immigrants. It's a factory with 1000 jobs. 1,000 illegal mexican immigrants are working hard and making a life for their families, in the meantime, just as many LEGAL Citizens are out responding to every job listing they can hoping to get employment. In the meantime they stand in the welfare office, while some illegal has a job. Now aren't you just so happy that illegals are doing so well in my city? gah.
@breemystic WHO'S FAULT IS THAT? Not the immigrants but the companies that hired them. When you realize that, the chip on your should would finally come off.
@MaDuke "When you realize that, the chip on your should would finally come off. " Okay you know what, I can understand that the illegal immigrants may be victimized by the big bad U.S. Government and US Corporations, but they are still taking away jobs from people in my city who are also just trying to make a life for their families in a bad economy. There are not enough opportunities to go around in my city. Oh and I have a right to my opinion, just like you have a right to yours.
No they're not. When they get deported, the company would just hire more. If you guys demand these corporations to stop hiring illegal immigrants, then you would get your jobs back. But if you're just going to sit there and complain about "Illegals" taking your jobs, then guess what, they're going to keep getting your jobs, 'cause you're not taking it up the their employers. You're also losing jobs to ppl oversees.
@MaDuke Oh and last but not least, I am allowed to have my opinion. i don't see why we can't debate this without you addressing me personally instead of the issues that I have with illegal immigrants. You might be right, I may have a chip on my shoulder, I can admit that I can be wrong. However, while I will agree to disagree with someone, I will not just make someone else's opinion my own due to another person thinking I'm wrong and you wouldn't change your opinion under those conditions either
I was just trying to show you that you're mad at the wrong ppl.If someone is willing to lose their life, money& family, just to get to the US,then I can do nothing but pity them rather than hate them,'cause they must be very desperate.I pray to not have to reach that form of desperation in my life and I won't even wish it on those i dislike.To me,they'll never be criminals(unless they're part of drug/human trafficking trade),but the little starving boy who broke the law to eat.
@MaDuke And that's all fine and good to pity them and say that they can stay here, that's no problem since it's your opinion. However, by pitying them, and trying to convince everyone that they should be here is counterproductive. When you and others say that there's nothing wrong with them being here, and that they're not breaking the law at all. That keeps them here, because the government doesn't want to make an unpopular decision and it's just easy once again to go....
@breemystic i didn't say they have to stay here, I just don't look at them the same way i would look at a pedophile/murderer. The US govt needs to make plans w/ the Mexican govt on how to solve this problem/get them back home w/ the promise of an easier life. If they can get an opportunity to a good job in Mexico, trust me, they wouldn't bother to cross the border.
@MaDuke We need to stop illegal immigration while prosecuting those who hire them. If we only prosecute the employer we will have a lot of jobless illegals in the U.S. and crime will skyrocket. Illegal immigration is just that, ILLEGAL it is not nor should be open for discussion.
@Jllucky8 Mexican farmers can't compete with US produce, which floods their markets. (They did the same to west Indian countries and was an efficient way to keep them poor). There's A Lot of things needed to be fixed and these corporations could care less. There needs to be negotiations between these gov'ts. If the gov't cared about securing low end jobs for USAmericans, they'd built a wall years ago, rather than spend the billions on war.
@MaDuke Do you have any idea how much money the U.S. gave Mexico in aid over the past few years? Billions. Do you know how many jobs were out source by the U.S. right over to Mexico? Many. Do you know where the richest man in the in the world was born and currently lives? Mexico. It's not any fault of the U.S. that Mexico has a crooked Gov't, be mad at them, the U.S and my tax dollars aren't supposed to be collected to support the world. Let them go to your country!
@Jllucky8 So because the richest man lives in Mexico, all of its citizens are well off? Well in the top ten the 2nd, 3rd, and 6th richest are Americans, so? Are you aware that there's always strings attached to aid? You may not benefit from it directly, but the gov't does. Outsourcing is not the fault of the foreign workers, its the businesses that want cheap labor. Until the ppl stop supporting such companies, you would see change, 'cause money talks.
@MaDuke Everything goes over your head doesn't it? What the Mexicans do with what we give them is their business, if the Mexicans don't like it they should revolt, once again NOT AMERICA'S PROBLEM. Regardless of why jobs are outsourced it benefits the people of Mexico. Maybe you should make room in YOUR home for the next illegal since you feel so bad for them. Money talks, yea there is a lot of money in dope but I'm not selling it. Remember there are plenty of poor right here in the USA!
@Jllucky8 What have you done for poor Americans? I support my local business, community, feed the homeless every chance I get, ALWAYS donate clothes/food and more! Just because I don't dehumanize immigrants that doesn't mean I don't care about Americans.There were American men on that list as well, so mentioning a Mexican didn't help your argument.(Americans can be just as poor as Mexicans, but unlike Mexicans, Americans get support from the govt', some purposely staying poor to get welfare)
@MaDuke FYI, the Gov't, obviously and unfortunately does not always act on behalf of it's citizens. So, while securing the borders may be important to us the politicians see votes and some businesses see dollar signs in leaving them open. None the less our borders should be secured. 2) Do you know why the Gov't wants an immigrant to show they own something in their country? So we know there will be a good chance they will leave when there supposed too!
I wasn't asking you a question, I was TELLING you what happens @ the embassies.
I hope to never feel that desperation to the point I have risk my life. Crossing the boarder takes a lot of desperation and guts. So its no wonder why they work 10 times harder than some Americans. Since you don't have the power to change immigration problem asap, How are you helping Americans(esp. the poor)? You have yet to bring up how you uplift your fellow citizens.
@MaDuke The U.S. isn't a customer service counter. While I don't want to see other people with hardships, the U.S has taken on more than its share. When you put 10 men in a 5 man raft it begins to sink, we need to stay a float. I never said I had a cure for poverty but if I could, as I stated before, I would remove the illegals. Wages would eventually go up, medical care costs would go down and our impoverished citizens would have more options.
@Jllucky8 Let me get this straight? You are claiming that if we remove people from this country. Therefore removing some of the people buying products. Along with depleting from our work forces. That our costs will go down?
Medical Costs tend to stay low. When more people have the money to pay there bills. It isn't Illegal's specifically.
@lanceknightmare Depleteing the work force will help drive wages up to an extent, so some employers will have to pay a better wage and make 80% proffit instead of 300% because off cheap labor. Two hospitals where I used to leave located near several central american communities closed down. A NY times article (fairly liberal paper) citied the cause, retrived from public records as "services rendered without payment" due to uninsured illegals who come in recieve treatment and don't pay.
@lanceknightmare Our skyrocketing health care can be resolved by passing laws that affect pharmaceutical companies who want to charge hundreds for a bottle of pain killers. In places like CA and NY illegals are a tremendous burden on our prison system, costing tax payers millions a year and the need for excessive police presence and overtime. In certain neighborhoods they don't even speak English anymore! What happened to assimilation?
@lanceknightmare In NY we have major problems with our resources such as our sewer system which needs revamping because of the population explosion. Sure there are some benefits to the exploitation of illegals (unfortunately) but the negatives out weigh the positive. The idiot in this video is trying to say hospital costs are paid by sales taxes LMAO Is that why I recieved a $700 bill for an ER visit a few years back? I should ahve showed them my food bill.
@lanceknightmare This guy mentions "fake SS card numbers" but doesn't mention that when one of those "fake" numbers happens to belong to a 70 years old retiree who gets an IRS audit to the tune of thousands is isn't so innocent anymore. Bottom line, Immigration laws are their for a good reason. It is to stop invasion of the U.S. by foreign countries. The key word here is ILLEGAL, Americans need to stand by the laws of our nation. Maybe MX wouldn't be so bad if people stayed their to change it!
@Jllucky8 you have it right most of your comments are spot on they do over populate they do take advantage of our medical programs and at the end not even fork up what little they have to pay INGRATES espeacially on the ss# they affect whoever ss# they use my dad is dealing with that shit right now some illegal prick is using his ss# in utha they do cause more shit than theyre worth the ones that benefit the most are the criminal employers that hire them theyre the ones who make bigger profits
@MaDuke My point in mentioning the richest man in the world is that money is spent and earned in Mexico. It's not the American taxpayer's job to supplement a corrupt country. Are you aware of the overwhelming Mexican drug/gang problem we have. Do you know they run the prisons in CA? Do you know they drain our social services and hospitals? Do you care or is just the dirty American's fault? Move to Mexico and make it a better place, see how long you last before the cartels tear you up.
@MaDuke Right, and maybe if there were no illegals those low paying jobs would pay a half decent wage (companies would have no choice) and help the lower class bring more money in with reputable jobs. Does that make any sense to you? Your beloved illegal alien friends are part of this problem!
They already have. Don't we reside in the same country? Why do you assume I don't? Because I'd rather point the finger at their govt and the employers rather than the ppl? For Immigrants that come in legally, it takes them a lifetime and a lot of money to gain citizenship. Its NOT easy. So it must be even harder for those that come in illegally. If Americans stop looking for cheap labor, ppl would migrate elsewhere.
@MaDuke For starters your profile says Portugal, that's why I "assumed" the obvious. I do blame the Mexican Gov't they and they alone are responsible for their citizen's welfare. It doesn't take a lifetime nor does it cost a fortune, an immigrant Visa is roughly $300.00. Ahh the old incitement argument. If only you cared as much about our laws, and the future of our country for our kids, so they don't inherit a 3rd world slum. Your a bleeding heart liberal, your argument is weak.
@Jllucky8 I didn't go to your profile to check on what country you listed. This is an American subject matter, won't those discussing it most likely be American?Both gov'ts are to blame.Don't you realize that if the border was such a concern for the gov't that they would have built a stronger better border,instead of wasting taxes on looking for weapons of mass destruction?Its not a concern for them.Other wise this would of been fixed a long time ago.Prisons have better security than the border
@Jllucky8 And please stop with this "liberal" shite. You're watching too much fox news. Honey I wasn't talking about visas, which is also hard to get. To get a visa, you'd have to show that you're well off in your country(like owning a house/land), so they'll know you have no reason to stay in the US, but I can't speak for all American consulates/embassies. And though its $300 for you its not for them, it may be 10 times that price based on the currency exchange rate.
@Jllucky8 I know a greek couple that filed in the 70's and became citizens last year. I know a colombian family who filed in the 80's but after 9/11 they were told their files were lost. I know a west indian woman, was filed for when she was 6 year old, and didn't get her green card(not citizenship) till she was 20! So It DOES take a LONG TIME! And the list goes on. I can tell you know absolute NOTHING about the Immigration process. And is only mouthing off was fox taught you.
@MaDuke A green card gives a person the right to stay and work in america, they have all the same right except they cannot vote. It is apparent from your little rant that you think people have the God given right to come here, hey sweetie they don't! This is a sovereign nation not a banana republic. And let me enlighten you a little, I graduates from a damn good school, my education came from there as well as practical application not the boob tube. Exchange rate? The dollar isn't worth nada!
@MaDuke Lastly, for your information, I have complained to my city government, state representatives, and the people that represent my area in congress many times. I have also complained to the factory that hires illegals in my city, as have a lot of people. There's a website about it, but nothing will ever be done, because things are done the way big businesses want them done. Even though I know that, I will still not pity them, because that would look like I'm on both sides, and I'm not.
@breemystic If only the pro and anti immigrant groups unite to go after those that hire undocumented workers. As I said before, we need to encourage ppl to not give their money to such companies. Contact community leaders to go after these businesses. We have the power, it just needs to be directed the right way. Our past has proven that we DO have the power to change our society. It's sad you don't pity them even though you know what they go through.
@MaDuke, Oh and you know what, I just looked up the penalty for living illegally in Mexico. If I were to be found living illegally in Mexico, I would face up to 400.00 USD in fines and up to 2 years in Mexican Prison, hmm, that sounds like a penalty for breaking the law. While the very nice United States, just deports illegal immigrants. The nice United States even provides sanctuary cities for illegal or undocumented immigrants to the point that they're not afraid to admit it on youtube. gah!!!
@breemystic Who are you against? The Mexican govt or the Mexicans that cross the boarder illegally? Don't you think its because of their govt they are crossing the boarder in the first place? The immigrants you are complaining about didn't make those policies, so bringing it up does little. You would have to take that up with their govt. The U.S.Americans are angry at the wrong ppl. If you stop hiring them, they wouldn't come.
@MaDuke, "The immigrants you are complaining about didn't make those policies, so bringing it up does little." You missed my whole point on this. My statement was directly related to illegal immigrants. In the US, illegals can proclaim on youtube that they are undocumented or illegal and nothing is done. Sanctuary is provided for them, but if I was illegal in their country, I wouldnt' be treated with the fine treatment that illegal immigrants in the US get, that was my point.
I got your point the first time, but as I stated before, "Illegal" immigrants didn't make those policies. So take it up with their govt and with yours as to why its "easy" for them to stay in the US. As i said before, your complaining about the wrong ppl. Its both govts fault. Until they do something about it, those crossing the boarder will..well just keep crossing it..illegally, which is even harder to do than waiting in line for 10 years.
@MaDuke cont'd from last: I know it's just easy to go with the grain, and welcome them here, because big businesses have lots of money from offering these workers lower wages. I know it's not the illegals fault that I can't get a job at a certain factory, but I almost got my electric shut off today, because I write web content for a living and make less than a penny a word sometimes, because companies don't want to pay me what I'm worth.
@MaDuke, I'm not responsible for what my ancestors did years ago. Maybe you can explain to me why it's just okay for them to be illegal here, because really everyone is illegal, so they should just be allowed here. The United States bought land from Mexico free and clear, and now the Mexicans just want to come on land that was bought from them? Why are you making excuses for people BREAKING THE LAW.
@MaDuke Oh, another thing that I just thought about, every country in the world now was a different country at some point. So with this logic, no person in the world is really a citizen of any country because the land belonged to another country before that. With your logic, I should just be able to go to England or France and live there permanently like I want to, because France was Gaul and one point. Why doesn't the world just eliminate borders and we can just live wherever we want.
Do people, anywhere in the world, have a right to enter the United States irrespective of our laws pertaining to immigration?. If a "yes" answer is given, then why shoud there be any immigration requirements, such as visas, passports and green cards, for anyone who wishes to visit or reside in our country? Why not abolish the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services?
Well, as soon as other countries drop their borders and just let who ever the hell in who wants in then others can tell us how mean we are for wanting our laws followed till then they can fuck right off.
My great grandparents did not take one step on US soil till they had permission to do so by the US government and they had learned English.
The reason illegals don't do it the right way is because it's too hard, it's just easier to break our laws and have fuck wits make excuses for them.
Also, while my great grandparents were waiting for permission from the US government to come, their only son got really sick and they still didn't think they had the right to barge in demand free medical care and be allowed to stay.
So, you keep making excuses and wanting them to stay and pretty soon our country will look like a third world country. I think that is what some of you traitors want. The illegals don't care about any of us, they just use those stupid enough to support their cause.
In California, state and local taxes paid by the unauthorized immigrant population go toward offsetting these costs, but they do not come near to matching the expenses. Their main contribution would be sales taxes but there is no way they can afford to be big spenders.
-- Based on estimates of the illegal immigrant population in California and documented costs of K-12 schooling, Californians spend approximately $7.7 billion annually on education for illegal immigrant children and for their U.S.-born siblings. Nearly 15 percent of the K-12 public school students in California are children of illegal aliens.
The estimated cost of illegal immigrants in California alone and their "anchor babies" is 10.5 billion dollars a year.
@vizion24 "anchor babies"?? unless you're not of native american blood you using that word makes you a complete hypocrate for being an anchor baby yourself..if what you're suggesting is that the kids of LATINO illegals..US CITIZENS BY BIRTH be stripped of their citizenship then you should be stripped of you citizenship too and be deported back to wherever your grandparents came from..infact jump back in that boat right now because this country doesnt need racist people like you..bon voyage!
I don't think they should be stripped of their citizenship but I do think the law should be changed because it is being exploited. Illegals and their "anchor babies" are a drain on the system (and I have numerous studies to back it up). It has nothing to do with racism. I don't care who comes to America as long as they go through the proper legal channels. My parents came to the US LEGALLY. Can't say the same for the millions crossing the Rio Grande River every year.
I don't have any kids. But if I did have kids who attended school it wouldn't be a drain on the system because I pay my taxes in full. Illegal immigrants, who are disproportionately poor, don't pay enough in taxes to cover the cost of public education.
@gunzkillu actually u dont have to be native american to be a citizen in america u just have to be born here or legally come here and pass a citizenship test also by ur title im guessing u are against guns which is another dumb opinoin to argue
im not against guns..it's just a random title i came up with for my youtube account..and FYI u dont need to tell me the requirements for being a us citizen i already know..
According to her study, 84 California hospitals are closing their doors as a direct result of the rising number of illegal aliens and their non-reimbursed tax on the system.
"Anchor babies," the author writes, "born to illegal aliens instantly qualify as citizens for welfare benefits and have caused enormous rises in Medicaid costs and stipends under Supplemental Security Income and Disability Income."
In addition, the report says, "many illegal aliens harbor fatal diseases that...
Actually, illegal immigrants take more than what they put into the system.
Illegals drain on the economy is enormous in California and the country as a whole.
A quick run down:
-- They are drying up our public school budget dollars. Breaking the Piggy Bank: How Illegal Immigration is Sending Schools Into the Red notes that "The estimated costs of educating illegal aliens and their children exceed 28.6 billion dollars in 2004 alone.
Sales Tax? A drop in the bucket. How much money does the employer deduct in State and Federal taxes from the ones that work under the table. YOU DON'T HAVE A LEG TO STAND ON. YOUR THE HYPOCRITE. That's my 2 cents.
In California, 60 hospitals have been forced to close because of unpaid costs to treat illegal invaders. And the legal taxpayers of the USA suffer for it. Why are we asked to slit our own throats to cater to those who abandoned their country, to steal(sorry, no mincing words here) from LEGAL US citizens? Illegals cost the US taxpayer in lost wages and public services nearly $ 2 1/2 TRILLION every year ($2,500,000,000,000!!). We didn't ask you to come here. It is time you faced responsibility.
what if they get a job and they get paid under the table.... thats not paying for income tax witch is a large portion of our taxes
Paradigmdubstep 1 month ago
Im hispanic...and It hurts to said this but this guy is right ....
ninabuena23 6 months ago
A 32 pound bucket of tomatoes cost $79.63 at the supermarket. The farmworker who picked that bucket was paid, on average, $.50 for that bucket. 50 divided by 79.63 equals, rounding up, 0.0063. That means that farmworkers earn roughly one half of one percent (0.63%) of the final price of a pound of tomatoes at the checkout counter. 99.5% of the final price of tomatoes goes to everyone else in the supply chain, with the lion's share going to the corporate supermarket, like Publix or WalMart.
LUPErgv 6 months ago
Everything you say up to 3:11 in the video is right on. Once you start getting to the part of wages, working conditions and prices of food, however, you gotta start digging a little deeper. Start asking, who is paying poverty wages to farmworkers and who is getting the profits? Growers pay .35-.45 per 32 pound bucket of tomatoes. Yet tomatoes are sold for around $2 a pound at the store. Where is all of that profit going?
LUPErgv 6 months ago
It makes me depressed to think that not only does an American post something like this but that he has so much support fro mother Americans. This is why we will be a third world nation in 50 years...maybe less. They DO utilize public money and they DON'T pay into it. Just the fact that they pay sales tax does NOT mean they are entitled to services by the government. Shame on you and all of you that think they are justified in receiving these services. They are a drain and you are the leak.
Quillons1 7 months ago
Sure I'm a sociology major. Sure the majority of the undocumented are hard workers and do want a good living without living off the government. I know that from my own personal experience with undocumented people. Here in California, YOU HAVE TO BE a citizen or a legal resident to apply for medicaid, food stamps, workforce, general assistance, TANF, and all that. But, we can't deny that certain number of the undocumented are still wrecking the economy by breeding kids and crowding schools.
TheLavish99 10 months ago
Yeah ok buddy!
hardcorenyc 1 year ago
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You got to be out of your fucking mind! illegals do do shit for me or put food on my table. if they can do it for me, then why don't you fucking take your asses back home and do it for yourself there?! you pick strawberries? big fucking deal. that is not what makes this country work. BLACK AFRICAN SLAVES BUILT THIS COUNTY OK, YOUR DAMN STRAWBERRY PICKING DOES NOT COMPARE TO WHAT THE SLAVES HAVE DONE HERE! mexicans and all illegals are draining this country, taking and not giving anything back.
justicecarly 1 year ago
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justicecarly 1 year ago
ILLEGALS DO NOT PAY INCOME TAXES, FEDERAL TAXES, STATE TAX, SOCIAL SECURITY TAX. SALES TAX DOES NOT CONSTITUTE BEING A TAXPAYER. THE SALE TAXES THEY PAY IS FROM THE WELFARE BENEFITS THAT ARE GIVEN TO THEM. SO WHAT ARE THEY PAYING? ITS LIKE VEGAS, GAMBLING WITH THE CASINO'S MONEY.
justicecarly 1 year ago
@justicecarly clearly you know nothing next time just keep your retaded comment in your head at least that way your ignorance isnt shown for the world to see
5042024 1 year ago
@5042024 it's you that don't know what you are talking about! guess your insipid ass is one of those illegals who claim they are paying taxes. what INCOME TAXES ARE YOU PAYING NITWIT?!? you should considering keeping your fucking mouth shut so then you can be mistaking for a horse and let your ass out!
justicecarly 9 months ago
@justicecarly wow what an inteligent comment you really told me unlike your moranic comment im right/ im of hispanic decent and i go to stores like cardenas el tapatio etc where about 95% of the TAX PAYING CONSUMERS ARE OF HISPANIC DECENT not all are illegals but EVERYBODY pays the same taxes that includes ALL ILLEGALS when you pay for gas at the pump and see illegals pumping gas guess what THEYRE PAYING TAXES see the point EVERYBODY PAYS taxes including illegals
5042024 9 months ago
@5042024 you pay SALES TAX not INCOME TAX OR FEDERAL TAX, OR FOR SOCIAL SECURITY OR DISABILITY OR UNEMPLOYMENT!!! FOR THE RECORD; I'M OF PUERTO RICAN DECENT!!!
SO I GUESS IT IS YOU THAT THE FUCKING MORON NOW!!!
justicecarly 8 months ago
@justicecarly wow your just plain dumb im sorry if i insulted you i didnt know your iQ was so low/ok ill put in simple terms most illegal imm HAVE to get FAKE SS #S in order to get hired by most companys/a company cant show profit without showing the proof(unless they do business under the table)so when the illegal gets his paycheck guess what happens he gets deducted into unemployement federal etc taxes on that paycheck so yes you are dumb sorry to point out the truth
5042024 8 months ago
@justicecarly 1 more thing on that for every illegal that gets hired in CA with a fake ss# the employer has to pay taxes to/ look im anti illegal i know how they do things like i said we a pay taxes 1 way or onother but they take avantage of our system they get medi care welfare etc when they should not be allowed to even enter the parking lot cause theyre here to work and if theyre in those programs that means theyre a liability thats the problem how is it that an illegal can get benefits?
5042024 8 months ago
@5042024 they do, they get free medical care, all of the anchor babies that are born here to illegals. that is how all of the benefits are funneled. through the children they have here. play stupid all you want and they also get section 8 housing. if they are getting paid under the table, how are they paying taxes, other than sales tax whenever they buy shit?
justicecarly 7 months ago
@justicecarly you truly are dumb/ read my comments again i agree with you that they take advantage of the system my personal opinion is we need to fix our systems cuz they do get taken avantage of/ welfare medi care etc are broken they need to be fixed/ 2nd who ever said hispanics are the only illegals that take advantage huh i had an asian girlfriend who use to get welfare and food stamps along with medi care(along with most of her family) and guess what they were more than well off/
5042024 7 months ago
@justicecarly TheyPAY income taxes. I would know I am black American married to one. As long as your provide a social fake or real, your employer takes a percentage of your income as federal income tax and other taxes. My husband has paid over 35,000 dollars to this country that he will never see. Open your eyes and get out and investigate the matter and talk to people. Most need a socail or what looks like a social to gain employment even in the kitchen.
TheHalallamb 2 months ago
@TheHalallamb Keep telling yourself that, with e verify, working under a fake social is very difficult, I have traveled all over and speak 4 languages fluently so if anyone needs to open their eyes is you sweetie, unless you' re paying illegals you don't know what they're paying. Your statement sounds like your spouse is here illegally.
justicecarly 2 months ago
@justicecarly He is undocumented because he was brought over as a child. I know all about e verify. Alot of people in the hispanic immigrant community work in restaurants, hotels, contractors doing construction and so forth.Alot of these places do not use e verify. Most people in this community have fake socials with card to match. Since i live in this community i think I know much more than you regarding this particular subject. I look at his paycheck stubs and he uses ss to pay child support
TheHalallamb 2 months ago
@5042024 hispanics are not the only ones here illegally. you are very stupid! You need to take a political science class and REALLY learn something!
justicecarly 7 months ago
@justicecarly by the way the illegals that use fake ss numbers easily outnumber those that work under the table so again your point is useless/ finaly you need to open your eyes and see the truth everybody pays taxes one way or another even though they dont pay their fair share they still pay taxes if we only could come up with a solution to keep them from receiving benefits/ if they didnt benefit greedy employers they wouldnt get hired as simple as that/ so dont just blame them either
5042024 7 months ago
No illegal puts food on my table, I work hard so I can buy as many strawberries as I want even if their picked by Obama himself..
Jllucky8 1 year ago
Tylerdurden790 you forget to mention that illegals lower wages so citizens won't take jobs because greedy company owners bank the money because of illegal workers. You left out the fact that when illegals use the hospitals that don't pay a nickel and that is why when a citizen goes in and gets treated he/she gets billed $40.00 for aspirin, to make of for services rendered on illegals. The hospital I was born in was closed down because of this (bankrupt). I'll pay for the strawberries!
Jllucky8 1 year ago
everybody pay taxes but the ilegals take the jobs for cheaps
MEXICANOIDIOTA 1 year ago
You miss a vital point. If local services are paid for my property and sales tax, then then your not getting much in taxes. Why? Because illegal aliens are under educated and do not make much money, therefore they cannot afford to A. Spend a lot of money, B. Afford costly property, the kind of property that pulls down higher taxes. Also, they often do not possess the assets to improve a property or area. Instead, what you often find is plight.
ikillgoldfish 1 year ago
Okay, you do make some good points there. I do know that there are Undocumented workers that are Mexicans, and I do understand that some illegal Mexicans pay taxes. However, if they are here illegal, they are still breaking the law. That is what I and most people have a problem with. It's hard to feel bad for someone who is breaking the law. They would get a federal refund if they had taken the time and money to apply and get approved for citizenship, it's that simple.
breemystic 1 year ago
everyone pays sales tax fuck nut
gumbykid314 1 year ago
ILLEGALS GET PAID CASH how is that paying taxes? Also I am construction worker illegals are taking our middle class jobs and displacing American workers, don't tell me they take only crummy jobs, THATS A LIE. By the time an illegal family is subsidized with free welfare, free food, free housing, free medical, those $3 strawberries are not worth the $20-$30 dollars in benefits that each illegal collects on our dime, YOU ARE A LIAR, you must be illegal or use illegal labor yourself,
MrTamyra 1 year ago
what's so fucking hard about becoming legal? it's not that difficult, and there is no excuse not to, get legal or get out,,,easy peasy....
laceydays 1 year ago
No they are not paying the same at all. Even if they did pay, the amount they pay is very very little and the amount they need in aid is a whole whole lot. The inequity isn't hard to grasp. We need those funds for AMERICANS. We need WIC, welfare, and stamps to go to AMERICANS who need it so they can have a chance. If its spread too thin the system is less effective.
owl975 1 year ago
@TheTankinTortuga
first of all you will reffer to me as YOUR EXCELLENCY when you address me. Second you can consulte your theasaurus as much as you want, but that doesnt change the fact that i have more neurons in my left asscheeck than you have in your hollow skull. Also who the fuck is my ilk? You might find courage in numbers or behind a computer screen but i dont.
ElCarnicero91 1 year ago
@TheTankinTortuga
Speak when youre spoken to.
and id rather be a failed creation than a hypocrite ape whos first impulse is to fling his shit at anything that reminds him of his own deep rooted insecurities and justifies it by preaching GOD.
ElCarnicero91 1 year ago
@ElCarnicero91
Why should I heed the words of a mistake of God, such as yourself. Your continued failure & your ilk's failure to progress is proof that you're nothing more than a waste of resources & air on this planet. What's sad is that animal activists will cry foul if we attempted euthanizing you off the face of the planet, although it'd be doing Mother Nature the favor she's been attempting for centuries. Too bad Cortez didn't finish the job when he had the chance.
TheTankinTortuga 1 year ago
@cwp91206
GLENDALE! What a shithole... Good chance your aemenian...but you arent, are you cwp?
ElCarnicero91 1 year ago
@ElCarnicero91
Go skullfuck yourself with a brick & hope that maybe the animals of your ilk gain some intellect from it. At this point - you're the biggest fail in creation & amongst God's creation.
TheTankinTortuga 1 year ago
@cpw91206 let me get this straight you are the only living decendant of the ice age retards depicted in that documentary. Good for you... P.s. Cpw as in water and power? Somewhere in the valley right? Anyway fuck you, fuck your high rates and fuck your bullshit theories.
ElCarnicero91 1 year ago
Contrary to the perceptions that illegal aliens don't pay payroll taxes, CIS estimates that more than 1/2 of illegals work "on the books." On avg, illegal households pay more than $4,200 / yr in all forms of fed taxes. Unfortunately, they impose costs of $6,950 / household.
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by Steven A. Camarota, Research Director at the Center for Immigration Studies, Washington, DC
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TheTankinTortuga 1 year ago
@cwp91206 you dont uderstand... Im talking about YOUR ancestors, people YOU can trace your ancestry to.not some neanderthal european who got lost. Unless ofcourse your ancestors were neanderthal europeans in wich case i apoligize.
ElCarnicero91 1 year ago
@ElCarnicero91 Europeans are my ancestors. Yours stole the land from them. We took it back. 1492 was OUR Reconquista.
cwp91206 1 year ago
If thats the game u racist fucks wanna play. Ok. I can trace my ancestry in mexico for atlest 15 generations thats roughly 300 years..long berfore the the mayflower, before the u.s. Before mexico..so GET THE FUCK OFF MY CONTINENT!!!!
ElCarnicero91 1 year ago
@ElCarnicero91 I have some bad news for you. See my playlist-
Ice Age Columbus: Who Were the First Americans?
This may not please you ethnocentric wing-nuts who use the "we were here first" canard to justify illegal immigration by "your people," but this documentary offers proof of the now decade-old and revolutionary finding that white Europeans arrived in North American very long ago, over 5,000 years before the Siberian Asiatic ancestors of "Native Americans" did. ;P
cwp91206 1 year ago
@cwp91206
These common everyday lemmings latch onto short little snippets of ideals & 1/2 truths. The most common one amongst these idiots is "EVERYONE is an immigrant in America OMGWTFBBQ!!!" They never seem to grasp the concept that most immigrants-turned-American don't need the suffix, they're just Americans now. They didn't come over here with the express intent of pumping out babies & getting paid for it , & they support the economy.
TheTankinTortuga 1 year ago
@TheTankinTortuga well that does tie in to your information about their lower academic performance and intellectual capacity.
cwp91206 1 year ago
dude you are right !
this is the biggest kept secret of right wing media
they don't like the average american to know what you just said !
NATIO1968 1 year ago
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mikemyers211 also $2.5 billion dollars a year spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens w w w . cis . org / articles / 2004 / fiscalexec . html
cwp91206 1 year ago
$17 billion dollars a year spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies. h t t p : / / transcripts . cnn . com / TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01 . html
cwp91206 1 year ago
@cwp91206 To you they are anchor babies but to me they are Americans. Its like calling you an achor baby cause your ancestors were not originaly Americans. These kids need a passport to go the their parents homeland and you wanna call them anchor babies?
mikemyers211 1 year ago
@mikemyers211 actually "jackpot baby" is an even better term. :D
cwp91206 1 year ago
$90 billion dollars a year spent on illegal aliens for welfare & social services by the American taxpayers. premium . cnn . com / TRANSCRIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01 . html
cwp91206 1 year ago
this guy is full of shit, down here in florida the illegals i know and have worked with live in apts or rental units with as many as 15 mexicans or south americans , they dont seek the same way of life as americans do because they are trying to send their money home. the 35 bilion they send back to mexico would do more good being spent here and on top of that the remittences allow the mexican goverment to do nothing about the poorness of its citizens
421slobo 1 year ago
you're right, and they DO FILE TAXES. Their pay checks get taxed deducted.
C6co66 1 year ago
@C6co66 they pay payroll taxes wich dont amount to shit, they pay alittle bit into social security and medicaid medicare, the majority of taxes that are collected are income taxes, and unless you make over 28,000 a year as individual or around 38k if your married , you dont pay shit in income taxes, on top of that their emergency room visits are driving up the cost of health care for those of us who actually pay for it
421slobo 1 year ago
yall racist fucks owe us lol i like to see yall racist ignorant gud for nothin fucks try to go pick up fruits and veggies on fields that are full of fuckin chemicals on a hot ass day.... pshhh yall niggas call us lazy? nigga i had 3 jobs bitch and i was goin to school so fuck off. we havent made it through high school?? nigga im college right now and im workin two jobs and im payin for all my expenses. uidk too many kids in my campus that can say that.
bigsmoke53 1 year ago
@bigsmoke53 why do you talk like such a ignorant bastard, whos the rascist here, you keep saying nigger and bitch and all this other shit, god i hope you dont have any kids, its people like you who ruin this country by raising ignorant fucking kids that i then have to support with my tax dollars
421slobo 1 year ago
@421slobo first of all u dont fuckin know me... second of all i dont have a kid... and if i do hes gonn be a US citizen lol u dont like it?? too fuckin bad nigguh... i bet if u and i took an IQ test id leave yo ass in da dirt. so fuck off before u wanna talk shyt bout sumone u dont even fuckin kno... trick ass nigga, btw im not racist, im mnexican u dumb fuck, and where im from is rl common for mexicans to say "nigga" not "nigg*r".
bigsmoke53 1 year ago
Illegal aliens have a unique, gangster-style vision of the American Dream - emboldened by globalist corporatists who cant do without their indentured servants. In the illegal aliens corrupt minds, it makes perfect sense, logically & morally, to ignore America's borders, laws (immigration, employment, income tax, & others stopping them from pursuing their greater objective). They feel entitled to pursue their own personal enrichment @ the expense of the American citizen, worker & taxpayer.
TheTankinTortuga 1 year ago 3
Yeah, they pay taxes. Like when Jose pays as Steve Mckormick,lol. I mean when they still American's identity.
Argument debunked!
NO AMNESTY!!!!
JJRage420 1 year ago 4
Better to pay an American a living wage for a job than allow an Outlaw Employer to profit at OUR expense. The slight increase in cost to the consumer is offset by the job and income received by the American worker. By paying a living wage to the American worker, taxpayers save by not having to provide benefits to the illegal aliens who have to rely on social services because they're not paid enough to support themselves and their dependents. That's a de facto subsidy to the Outlaw Employer.
cwp91206 1 year ago 7
Illegal aliens receive far more in benefits than they pay in taxes.
See my playlist-
Illegal Immigration: Costs, Crimes and Victims
Links-
w w w . immigrationcounters . com
w w w . predatoryaliens . com
cwp91206 1 year ago 4
@cwp91206 I dont trust your stupid statistics if they aren't from the government!
mikemyers211 1 year ago
@mikemyers211 see the comments section on my channel page. I list lots of points with their sources. Here is an example-"Today, criminal aliens account for over 29 percent of prisoners in Federal Bureau of Prisons facilities and a higher share of all federal prison inmates. These prisoners represent the fastest growing segment of the federal prison population. w w w . fairus . org / site/ PageServer ? pagename = iic _ immigrationissuecenters0b9c." ;P
cwp91206 1 year ago
@cwp91206 This website link you have posted is an anti-immigration site so like i said, i dont trust your sources if they're not from the government.
mikemyers211 1 year ago
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@mikemyers211 also $2.5 billion dollars a year spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens. w w w . cis . org / articles / 2004 / fiscalexec . html
cwp91206 1 year ago
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mikemyers211 also $2.5 billion dollars a year spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens. w w w . cis . org / articles / 2004 / fiscalexec . html
cwp91206 1 year ago
@mikemyers211 mikemyers211 also $2.5 billion dollars a year spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
cwp91206 1 year ago
Your facts come from prejudice idiots who don't get all the facts straight. The immigrants Work for low wages at intense jobs which would mean that their bosses eventually pay their taxes as well. It's like if you were getting paid minimum wage but getting 2 dollars deducted every hour to pay off taxes. This guy on top is a great american who does his research before arguing and making any comment. Immigrants wind up paying more taxes and supplying america with service. It's not going to be free
MrJuanatx512 1 year ago
@MrJuanatx512 no way, Jose. Take a look at the factoids I lost in the comments section of my channel page. I show the source for each one, and they have a lot more credibility than you do.
cwp91206 1 year ago
@MrJuanatx512 Illegal aliens DON'T deserve our sympathy. When they claim they have to come here, it's like a bank robber saying he has to rob a bank, or a rapist saying the woman wanted it.
The criminality of illegal aliens doesn't stop when they cross they border. It continues. They engage in crime whenever it benefits them and they can get away with it.
cwp91206 1 year ago
@cwp91206 Your just assuming things without proof you idiot. It's like me saying americans are lazy bums. And how do you compare them to robbers dumbass. They work and perform a service which is not free. Slavery is banned for your information and Services cost money. Telling immigrants who come here to survive is like telling starving children and haitians to fix they're own problem and find they're own food.
MrJuanatx512 1 year ago
@MrJuanatx512 An eye-opening and very disturbing report which stands as a stark reality check against the "family values don't stop at the border" bullshit which features widespread Latino incest and absentee fathers who very often are dropouts, criminals, gang members, drug addicts and prison inmates.
h t t p : / / w w w . city-journal . org / html / 16_4_hispanic_family_values . html
cwp91206 1 year ago
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400,000 anchor babies cost taxpayers big time! At $6,000.00 per delivery in our hospitals where those pregnant alien mothers take themselves to birth their children Xs 400,000 annually: $2.4 billion annually. Yr after yr! If the child suffers from autism, Downs Syndrome, myocardial septal defect (hole in heart), deformity, premature birth in ICU or other problems—the costs =millions
The mother becomes on welfare rolls in assisted housing, food stamps, medical care, welfare
Tremleypt 1 year ago 6
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The average illegal immigrant family receives an average of $30,000 in governmental benefits! Yet they pay only about $9,000 in taxes per year. That creates a $21,000 shortfall that the American taxpayer has to make up. That's like buying each of the illegal immigrant families a brand new Mustang convertible -- each and every year!"
Tremleypt 1 year ago 6
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Unpaid costs for treating illegals has directly caused the closings of nearly 100 hospitals in California alone. Illegals consume nearly $69 BILLION in social services annually. Children of illegal immigrants cost public schools $28.6 Billion annually. Illegal immigrant labor depresses wages for American citizens by 200 BILLION a year. The cost of illegal immigration to the American taxpayer is $55,000 PER illegal. The total cost annually is over is a whopping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR
Tremleypt 1 year ago 6
fuck you uneducated idiot. If you can't fill out an application you can't come here. That is the law. We don't want Mexico's undesirables in this county. Cheap labor is for the corporations. We need a better class of people, not people that can't pass high school or fill out a simple application to come here legally.
x11115 2 years ago 4
Yeah and they also juice the social services for every penny and that has to be paid by people that earn an income. most of the people working in this offices that give them stamps are hispanic. they speak within their own language and discriminate in these offices. if a white person needs stamps they will have to jump through more hoops to get them. If you are latino and speak spanish you stand a good chance to get social services from the government. even border cops have to speak spanish
x11115 2 years ago 4
OF COURSE THEY PAY TAXES..here in nj wellfare is full of port ricans , they are citizens don't work and have everything ..they still citizens ..the child of a illegal mother is citizen. by birth.have rights..a citizen pay taxes have refund..illegal pay taxes have nothing ..where is that money they work and pay..U use?..who use?..
miltonsava 2 years ago
1. bosses can provide them houses to work for free (true) 2. sales tax they could steal 3. only 2% of produce jobs are worked by illegal immigrants 4. Illegal immigrants are not doing it for us 5. even if they were good hard working illegal immigrants they are still criminal THEY ARE ILLEGAL
crablegs21 2 years ago 2
My parents came here legally, they pay taxes every time they get paid.
Illegals get paid under the table, get free healthcare (E.R) and when they have 3-4 kids (which i know of 3 ladies) they get welfare using fake I.Ds
deepbluenos2002 2 years ago 2
yea 'cause its sooooo easy right (sarcastic)................Where are your parents from by the way and when did they go to america?
MaDuke 2 years ago
@MaDuke, I'm sure it's not easy to become an American Citizen, I've heard that it can take 10 years, and that it costs a lot of money. However, many immigrants do this every year, including Mexican Immigrants that respect our laws. By the way, my parents were born in the United States, in fact to save time and space, my family first Immigrated here from Ireland in 1750 when America wasn't even a country yet. A lot of Americans have the same story, because their ancestors took the time to do so.
breemystic 1 year ago
@breemystic 1750??? lol.. yea they had some pretty tough immigration laws back then.. riiight.. "to save time and space" elaborate on that please..
Like most US Americans today, native Americans must of been very pleased about their new uninvited neighbors.
MaDuke 1 year ago
@MaDuke, I'm sure they had easy laws back then. I'm not saying that the process is easy for a Mexican to come here, but what would Mexico do to illegal immigrants in their country? Is it easy to get Mexican Citizenship? Is it easy to get citizenship anywhere? This is not an issue of how long anyone has been here but rather that there are some people in the United States that have no respect, and are allowed to break the law on a daily basis, and people advocating for them breaking the law.
breemystic 1 year ago
@breemystic yeah you're an immigrant who has little choices on how they're going to survive and help their family survive. Marriage between black/white ppl were illegal once, but hey the couples were just dirty criminals right? A starving child who stole bread is nothing more than a criminal and should be punished. 'Cause the law said so right?
MaDuke 1 year ago
@MaDuke, Please don't put words in my mouth, I don't think interracial marriage is bad, and I never have thought that way. As for the child stealing the bread because they were starving, this can apply to the child of an illegal at least until they've taken government in school, children don't know any better and they are not held accountable like adults who full well know the laws. There is a difference.
breemystic 1 year ago
@breemystic where did i insist that you're not fond of interracial marriage? It was an example.
MaDuke 1 year ago
@MaDuke if Mexicans are allowed to come to the United States permanently and keep their citizenship with Mexico, then I should be able to legally reside in any country I want to without the prior approval of that country. Most countries require an immigrant to get citizenship or approval to live there first. The United States and people against illegals are not being mean, hateful or close minded. A lot of people are just against the attitude of entitlement that illegal mexican immigrants have.
breemystic 1 year ago
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@breemystic "The United States and people against illegals are not being mean, hateful or close minded."
I'm sorry but I know waay too many that are. those are the ones who have a problem w/ immigrants of colour period(they won't say so openly, unless you know them personally, they'll just join the line of other anti immigrants), and i never see them complain about illegal european immigrants. I'm not surprised that neo nazis/kkk join the tea party&anti immigration groups. I would know.
MaDuke 1 year ago
@breemystic .
"A lot of people are just against the attitude of entitlement that illegal mexican immigrants have."
I've yet to meet a Mexican w/ that attitude. Have you or are you just going by what others say? I know Mexicans may be the majority, but you can't overlook other immigrants. I wouldn't treat a starving child who stole food as a criminal and the same goes for those who fled their countries for a life they can only dream of.Your ancestors got that chance, so should they.
MaDuke 1 year ago
@MaDuke, ".Your ancestors got that chance, so should they." There is the attitude of entitlement and by the way, just like you can form your opinions on this topic, so can I without anyone's help. The reason why I feel that illegal mexican immigrants feel entitled, is because they have no problem coming to the united states and living here without the government's permission, while other immigrants spend time and money getting citizenship and visas to be here.
breemystic 1 year ago
@breemystic so when you hear of Mexicans crossing the boarder for survival you read that as a sense of entitlement.. ooook.. If other immigrants lived near the US boarder, they too might think of crossing the boarder. No one wants to wait in line 10+ years.
MaDuke 1 year ago
@MaDuke No one wants to wait in line for up to 10 years to enter the US but many do the work the to do so. To me it's an insult to the Legal Mexican Immigrants that have taken the time to do so. Maybe they should have just taken the easy way out and just lived here illegally, at least that's the way things should be by your logic.
breemystic 1 year ago
@MaDuke In the meantime, illegal immigrants from different countries come here, and they ignore our laws. A lot of mexican immigrants don't know english, you want to know how I know, because I worked in retail for 5 years, and was required to know spanish so that the illegal mexicans wouldn't have to learn English.
Also about them trying to make a life for their families, I understand that, but I live in a city with a 10% unemployment rate currently, with a factory that only hires illegals...
breemystic 1 year ago
@breemystic
"I worked in retail for 5 years, and was required to know Spanish so that the illegal Mexicans wouldn't have to learn English."
And during the 5 years you worked there, each one of them told you they were illegal(who does that?)? or are you just assume non English speakers are illegals? I don't see the problem of being bilingual. Ppl of other countries speak more than 2 languages, the U.S.Americans seem to be the only ones that have a problem w/ being educated in a second language
MaDuke 1 year ago
@MaDuke Okay first of all, I know 4 languages, English, French, Spanish and Gaelic. My husband knows German and is teaching me some as well. I also know enough Russian to get around. I have no problem learning a language at all, so please don't generalize and attack me, as I haven't you. The reason why I brought up them not learning English, is that it is a requirement for many countries to be fluent in that country's official language to gain citizenship. That's my only problem with it.
breemystic 1 year ago
@MaDuke, cont'd from the last, there's a Dole Factory in my city that only hires illegal immigrants. It's a factory with 1000 jobs. 1,000 illegal mexican immigrants are working hard and making a life for their families, in the meantime, just as many LEGAL Citizens are out responding to every job listing they can hoping to get employment. In the meantime they stand in the welfare office, while some illegal has a job. Now aren't you just so happy that illegals are doing so well in my city? gah.
breemystic 1 year ago
@breemystic WHO'S FAULT IS THAT? Not the immigrants but the companies that hired them. When you realize that, the chip on your should would finally come off.
MaDuke 1 year ago
@MaDuke "When you realize that, the chip on your should would finally come off. " Okay you know what, I can understand that the illegal immigrants may be victimized by the big bad U.S. Government and US Corporations, but they are still taking away jobs from people in my city who are also just trying to make a life for their families in a bad economy. There are not enough opportunities to go around in my city. Oh and I have a right to my opinion, just like you have a right to yours.
breemystic 1 year ago
@breemystic
"but they are still taking away jobs from people"
No they're not. When they get deported, the company would just hire more. If you guys demand these corporations to stop hiring illegal immigrants, then you would get your jobs back. But if you're just going to sit there and complain about "Illegals" taking your jobs, then guess what, they're going to keep getting your jobs, 'cause you're not taking it up the their employers. You're also losing jobs to ppl oversees.
MaDuke 1 year ago
@MaDuke Oh and last but not least, I am allowed to have my opinion. i don't see why we can't debate this without you addressing me personally instead of the issues that I have with illegal immigrants. You might be right, I may have a chip on my shoulder, I can admit that I can be wrong. However, while I will agree to disagree with someone, I will not just make someone else's opinion my own due to another person thinking I'm wrong and you wouldn't change your opinion under those conditions either
breemystic 1 year ago
@breemystic
I was just trying to show you that you're mad at the wrong ppl.If someone is willing to lose their life, money& family, just to get to the US,then I can do nothing but pity them rather than hate them,'cause they must be very desperate.I pray to not have to reach that form of desperation in my life and I won't even wish it on those i dislike.To me,they'll never be criminals(unless they're part of drug/human trafficking trade),but the little starving boy who broke the law to eat.
MaDuke 1 year ago
@MaDuke And that's all fine and good to pity them and say that they can stay here, that's no problem since it's your opinion. However, by pitying them, and trying to convince everyone that they should be here is counterproductive. When you and others say that there's nothing wrong with them being here, and that they're not breaking the law at all. That keeps them here, because the government doesn't want to make an unpopular decision and it's just easy once again to go....
breemystic 1 year ago
@breemystic i didn't say they have to stay here, I just don't look at them the same way i would look at a pedophile/murderer. The US govt needs to make plans w/ the Mexican govt on how to solve this problem/get them back home w/ the promise of an easier life. If they can get an opportunity to a good job in Mexico, trust me, they wouldn't bother to cross the border.
MaDuke 1 year ago
@MaDuke We need to stop illegal immigration while prosecuting those who hire them. If we only prosecute the employer we will have a lot of jobless illegals in the U.S. and crime will skyrocket. Illegal immigration is just that, ILLEGAL it is not nor should be open for discussion.
Jllucky8 1 year ago
@Jllucky8 Mexican farmers can't compete with US produce, which floods their markets. (They did the same to west Indian countries and was an efficient way to keep them poor). There's A Lot of things needed to be fixed and these corporations could care less. There needs to be negotiations between these gov'ts. If the gov't cared about securing low end jobs for USAmericans, they'd built a wall years ago, rather than spend the billions on war.
MaDuke 1 year ago
@MaDuke Do you have any idea how much money the U.S. gave Mexico in aid over the past few years? Billions. Do you know how many jobs were out source by the U.S. right over to Mexico? Many. Do you know where the richest man in the in the world was born and currently lives? Mexico. It's not any fault of the U.S. that Mexico has a crooked Gov't, be mad at them, the U.S and my tax dollars aren't supposed to be collected to support the world. Let them go to your country!
Jllucky8 1 year ago
@Jllucky8 So because the richest man lives in Mexico, all of its citizens are well off? Well in the top ten the 2nd, 3rd, and 6th richest are Americans, so? Are you aware that there's always strings attached to aid? You may not benefit from it directly, but the gov't does. Outsourcing is not the fault of the foreign workers, its the businesses that want cheap labor. Until the ppl stop supporting such companies, you would see change, 'cause money talks.
MaDuke 1 year ago
@MaDuke Everything goes over your head doesn't it? What the Mexicans do with what we give them is their business, if the Mexicans don't like it they should revolt, once again NOT AMERICA'S PROBLEM. Regardless of why jobs are outsourced it benefits the people of Mexico. Maybe you should make room in YOUR home for the next illegal since you feel so bad for them. Money talks, yea there is a lot of money in dope but I'm not selling it. Remember there are plenty of poor right here in the USA!
Jllucky8 1 year ago
@Jllucky8 What have you done for poor Americans? I support my local business, community, feed the homeless every chance I get, ALWAYS donate clothes/food and more! Just because I don't dehumanize immigrants that doesn't mean I don't care about Americans.There were American men on that list as well, so mentioning a Mexican didn't help your argument.(Americans can be just as poor as Mexicans, but unlike Mexicans, Americans get support from the govt', some purposely staying poor to get welfare)
MaDuke 1 year ago
@MaDuke FYI, the Gov't, obviously and unfortunately does not always act on behalf of it's citizens. So, while securing the borders may be important to us the politicians see votes and some businesses see dollar signs in leaving them open. None the less our borders should be secured. 2) Do you know why the Gov't wants an immigrant to show they own something in their country? So we know there will be a good chance they will leave when there supposed too!
Jllucky8 1 year ago
@Jllucky8
I wasn't asking you a question, I was TELLING you what happens @ the embassies.
I hope to never feel that desperation to the point I have risk my life. Crossing the boarder takes a lot of desperation and guts. So its no wonder why they work 10 times harder than some Americans. Since you don't have the power to change immigration problem asap, How are you helping Americans(esp. the poor)? You have yet to bring up how you uplift your fellow citizens.
MaDuke 1 year ago
@MaDuke The U.S. isn't a customer service counter. While I don't want to see other people with hardships, the U.S has taken on more than its share. When you put 10 men in a 5 man raft it begins to sink, we need to stay a float. I never said I had a cure for poverty but if I could, as I stated before, I would remove the illegals. Wages would eventually go up, medical care costs would go down and our impoverished citizens would have more options.
Jllucky8 1 year ago
@Jllucky8 Let me get this straight? You are claiming that if we remove people from this country. Therefore removing some of the people buying products. Along with depleting from our work forces. That our costs will go down?
Medical Costs tend to stay low. When more people have the money to pay there bills. It isn't Illegal's specifically.
lanceknightmare 9 months ago
@lanceknightmare Depleteing the work force will help drive wages up to an extent, so some employers will have to pay a better wage and make 80% proffit instead of 300% because off cheap labor. Two hospitals where I used to leave located near several central american communities closed down. A NY times article (fairly liberal paper) citied the cause, retrived from public records as "services rendered without payment" due to uninsured illegals who come in recieve treatment and don't pay.
Jllucky8 9 months ago
@lanceknightmare Our skyrocketing health care can be resolved by passing laws that affect pharmaceutical companies who want to charge hundreds for a bottle of pain killers. In places like CA and NY illegals are a tremendous burden on our prison system, costing tax payers millions a year and the need for excessive police presence and overtime. In certain neighborhoods they don't even speak English anymore! What happened to assimilation?
Jllucky8 9 months ago
@lanceknightmare In NY we have major problems with our resources such as our sewer system which needs revamping because of the population explosion. Sure there are some benefits to the exploitation of illegals (unfortunately) but the negatives out weigh the positive. The idiot in this video is trying to say hospital costs are paid by sales taxes LMAO Is that why I recieved a $700 bill for an ER visit a few years back? I should ahve showed them my food bill.
Jllucky8 9 months ago
@lanceknightmare This guy mentions "fake SS card numbers" but doesn't mention that when one of those "fake" numbers happens to belong to a 70 years old retiree who gets an IRS audit to the tune of thousands is isn't so innocent anymore. Bottom line, Immigration laws are their for a good reason. It is to stop invasion of the U.S. by foreign countries. The key word here is ILLEGAL, Americans need to stand by the laws of our nation. Maybe MX wouldn't be so bad if people stayed their to change it!
Jllucky8 9 months ago
@Jllucky8 you have it right most of your comments are spot on they do over populate they do take advantage of our medical programs and at the end not even fork up what little they have to pay INGRATES espeacially on the ss# they affect whoever ss# they use my dad is dealing with that shit right now some illegal prick is using his ss# in utha they do cause more shit than theyre worth the ones that benefit the most are the criminal employers that hire them theyre the ones who make bigger profits
5042024 8 months ago
@MaDuke My point in mentioning the richest man in the world is that money is spent and earned in Mexico. It's not the American taxpayer's job to supplement a corrupt country. Are you aware of the overwhelming Mexican drug/gang problem we have. Do you know they run the prisons in CA? Do you know they drain our social services and hospitals? Do you care or is just the dirty American's fault? Move to Mexico and make it a better place, see how long you last before the cartels tear you up.
Jllucky8 1 year ago
@Jllucky8
The lower class has it hard. Not the US's problem, but when your fellow citizens profit from it, it becomes OUR problem.
MaDuke 1 year ago
@MaDuke Right, and maybe if there were no illegals those low paying jobs would pay a half decent wage (companies would have no choice) and help the lower class bring more money in with reputable jobs. Does that make any sense to you? Your beloved illegal alien friends are part of this problem!
Jllucky8 1 year ago
@Jllucky8
"Let them go to your country!"
They already have. Don't we reside in the same country? Why do you assume I don't? Because I'd rather point the finger at their govt and the employers rather than the ppl? For Immigrants that come in legally, it takes them a lifetime and a lot of money to gain citizenship. Its NOT easy. So it must be even harder for those that come in illegally. If Americans stop looking for cheap labor, ppl would migrate elsewhere.
MaDuke 1 year ago
@MaDuke For starters your profile says Portugal, that's why I "assumed" the obvious. I do blame the Mexican Gov't they and they alone are responsible for their citizen's welfare. It doesn't take a lifetime nor does it cost a fortune, an immigrant Visa is roughly $300.00. Ahh the old incitement argument. If only you cared as much about our laws, and the future of our country for our kids, so they don't inherit a 3rd world slum. Your a bleeding heart liberal, your argument is weak.
Jllucky8 1 year ago
@Jllucky8 I didn't go to your profile to check on what country you listed. This is an American subject matter, won't those discussing it most likely be American?Both gov'ts are to blame.Don't you realize that if the border was such a concern for the gov't that they would have built a stronger better border,instead of wasting taxes on looking for weapons of mass destruction?Its not a concern for them.Other wise this would of been fixed a long time ago.Prisons have better security than the border
MaDuke 1 year ago
@Jllucky8 And please stop with this "liberal" shite. You're watching too much fox news. Honey I wasn't talking about visas, which is also hard to get. To get a visa, you'd have to show that you're well off in your country(like owning a house/land), so they'll know you have no reason to stay in the US, but I can't speak for all American consulates/embassies. And though its $300 for you its not for them, it may be 10 times that price based on the currency exchange rate.
MaDuke 1 year ago
@Jllucky8 I know a greek couple that filed in the 70's and became citizens last year. I know a colombian family who filed in the 80's but after 9/11 they were told their files were lost. I know a west indian woman, was filed for when she was 6 year old, and didn't get her green card(not citizenship) till she was 20! So It DOES take a LONG TIME! And the list goes on. I can tell you know absolute NOTHING about the Immigration process. And is only mouthing off was fox taught you.
MaDuke 1 year ago
@MaDuke A green card gives a person the right to stay and work in america, they have all the same right except they cannot vote. It is apparent from your little rant that you think people have the God given right to come here, hey sweetie they don't! This is a sovereign nation not a banana republic. And let me enlighten you a little, I graduates from a damn good school, my education came from there as well as practical application not the boob tube. Exchange rate? The dollar isn't worth nada!
Jllucky8 1 year ago
@MaDuke Lastly, for your information, I have complained to my city government, state representatives, and the people that represent my area in congress many times. I have also complained to the factory that hires illegals in my city, as have a lot of people. There's a website about it, but nothing will ever be done, because things are done the way big businesses want them done. Even though I know that, I will still not pity them, because that would look like I'm on both sides, and I'm not.
breemystic 1 year ago
@breemystic If only the pro and anti immigrant groups unite to go after those that hire undocumented workers. As I said before, we need to encourage ppl to not give their money to such companies. Contact community leaders to go after these businesses. We have the power, it just needs to be directed the right way. Our past has proven that we DO have the power to change our society. It's sad you don't pity them even though you know what they go through.
MaDuke 1 year ago
@breemystic the govt makes money from the fines they give to those businesses though. no illegals=no fines..
MaDuke 1 year ago
@MaDuke Have a nice day and good luck with your cause. It's always good to see someone stand up for what they believe in.
breemystic 1 year ago
@MaDuke, Oh and you know what, I just looked up the penalty for living illegally in Mexico. If I were to be found living illegally in Mexico, I would face up to 400.00 USD in fines and up to 2 years in Mexican Prison, hmm, that sounds like a penalty for breaking the law. While the very nice United States, just deports illegal immigrants. The nice United States even provides sanctuary cities for illegal or undocumented immigrants to the point that they're not afraid to admit it on youtube. gah!!!
breemystic 1 year ago
@breemystic Who are you against? The Mexican govt or the Mexicans that cross the boarder illegally? Don't you think its because of their govt they are crossing the boarder in the first place? The immigrants you are complaining about didn't make those policies, so bringing it up does little. You would have to take that up with their govt. The U.S.Americans are angry at the wrong ppl. If you stop hiring them, they wouldn't come.
MaDuke 1 year ago
@MaDuke, "The immigrants you are complaining about didn't make those policies, so bringing it up does little." You missed my whole point on this. My statement was directly related to illegal immigrants. In the US, illegals can proclaim on youtube that they are undocumented or illegal and nothing is done. Sanctuary is provided for them, but if I was illegal in their country, I wouldnt' be treated with the fine treatment that illegal immigrants in the US get, that was my point.
breemystic 1 year ago
@breemystic
I got your point the first time, but as I stated before, "Illegal" immigrants didn't make those policies. So take it up with their govt and with yours as to why its "easy" for them to stay in the US. As i said before, your complaining about the wrong ppl. Its both govts fault. Until they do something about it, those crossing the boarder will..well just keep crossing it..illegally, which is even harder to do than waiting in line for 10 years.
MaDuke 1 year ago
@MaDuke cont'd from last: I know it's just easy to go with the grain, and welcome them here, because big businesses have lots of money from offering these workers lower wages. I know it's not the illegals fault that I can't get a job at a certain factory, but I almost got my electric shut off today, because I write web content for a living and make less than a penny a word sometimes, because companies don't want to pay me what I'm worth.
breemystic 1 year ago
@breemystic Well we need stop letting our money go to such companies. But then again lower wages=cheaper products...sometimes..
MaDuke 1 year ago
@MaDuke, I'm not responsible for what my ancestors did years ago. Maybe you can explain to me why it's just okay for them to be illegal here, because really everyone is illegal, so they should just be allowed here. The United States bought land from Mexico free and clear, and now the Mexicans just want to come on land that was bought from them? Why are you making excuses for people BREAKING THE LAW.
breemystic 1 year ago
@MaDuke Oh, another thing that I just thought about, every country in the world now was a different country at some point. So with this logic, no person in the world is really a citizen of any country because the land belonged to another country before that. With your logic, I should just be able to go to England or France and live there permanently like I want to, because France was Gaul and one point. Why doesn't the world just eliminate borders and we can just live wherever we want.
breemystic 1 year ago
Here is a question for you:
Do people, anywhere in the world, have a right to enter the United States irrespective of our laws pertaining to immigration?. If a "yes" answer is given, then why shoud there be any immigration requirements, such as visas, passports and green cards, for anyone who wishes to visit or reside in our country? Why not abolish the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services?
vizion24 2 years ago
Well, as soon as other countries drop their borders and just let who ever the hell in who wants in then others can tell us how mean we are for wanting our laws followed till then they can fuck right off.
My great grandparents did not take one step on US soil till they had permission to do so by the US government and they had learned English.
The reason illegals don't do it the right way is because it's too hard, it's just easier to break our laws and have fuck wits make excuses for them.
Mom2BTJ 1 year ago 3
Also, while my great grandparents were waiting for permission from the US government to come, their only son got really sick and they still didn't think they had the right to barge in demand free medical care and be allowed to stay.
So, you keep making excuses and wanting them to stay and pretty soon our country will look like a third world country. I think that is what some of you traitors want. The illegals don't care about any of us, they just use those stupid enough to support their cause.
Mom2BTJ 1 year ago 2
In California, state and local taxes paid by the unauthorized immigrant population go toward offsetting these costs, but they do not come near to matching the expenses. Their main contribution would be sales taxes but there is no way they can afford to be big spenders.
vizion24 2 years ago
and their money comes from our taxes anyway so it is even worse
fitchburgslut 2 years ago
their incarceration).
-- Based on estimates of the illegal immigrant population in California and documented costs of K-12 schooling, Californians spend approximately $7.7 billion annually on education for illegal immigrant children and for their U.S.-born siblings. Nearly 15 percent of the K-12 public school students in California are children of illegal aliens.
The estimated cost of illegal immigrants in California alone and their "anchor babies" is 10.5 billion dollars a year.
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vizion24 2 years ago
@vizion24 "anchor babies"?? unless you're not of native american blood you using that word makes you a complete hypocrate for being an anchor baby yourself..if what you're suggesting is that the kids of LATINO illegals..US CITIZENS BY BIRTH be stripped of their citizenship then you should be stripped of you citizenship too and be deported back to wherever your grandparents came from..infact jump back in that boat right now because this country doesnt need racist people like you..bon voyage!
gunzkillu 2 years ago
I don't think they should be stripped of their citizenship but I do think the law should be changed because it is being exploited. Illegals and their "anchor babies" are a drain on the system (and I have numerous studies to back it up). It has nothing to do with racism. I don't care who comes to America as long as they go through the proper legal channels. My parents came to the US LEGALLY. Can't say the same for the millions crossing the Rio Grande River every year.
vizion24 2 years ago 4
@vizion24 if u or ur kids went to school then you too are a drain on the system
gunzkillu 2 years ago
I don't have any kids. But if I did have kids who attended school it wouldn't be a drain on the system because I pay my taxes in full. Illegal immigrants, who are disproportionately poor, don't pay enough in taxes to cover the cost of public education.
You seem angry. Are you pro illegal immigration?
vizion24 2 years ago 2
LOL LOL LOL
miltonsava 2 years ago
@gunzkillu actually u dont have to be native american to be a citizen in america u just have to be born here or legally come here and pass a citizenship test also by ur title im guessing u are against guns which is another dumb opinoin to argue
crablegs21 2 years ago 2
im not against guns..it's just a random title i came up with for my youtube account..and FYI u dont need to tell me the requirements for being a us citizen i already know..
gunzkillu 2 years ago
According to her study, 84 California hospitals are closing their doors as a direct result of the rising number of illegal aliens and their non-reimbursed tax on the system.
"Anchor babies," the author writes, "born to illegal aliens instantly qualify as citizens for welfare benefits and have caused enormous rises in Medicaid costs and stipends under Supplemental Security Income and Disability Income."
In addition, the report says, "many illegal aliens harbor fatal diseases that...
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vizion24 2 years ago
Actually, illegal immigrants take more than what they put into the system.
Illegals drain on the economy is enormous in California and the country as a whole.
A quick run down:
-- They are drying up our public school budget dollars. Breaking the Piggy Bank: How Illegal Immigration is Sending Schools Into the Red notes that "The estimated costs of educating illegal aliens and their children exceed 28.6 billion dollars in 2004 alone.
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vizion24 2 years ago
Sales Tax? A drop in the bucket. How much money does the employer deduct in State and Federal taxes from the ones that work under the table. YOU DON'T HAVE A LEG TO STAND ON. YOUR THE HYPOCRITE. That's my 2 cents.
geocgeo 2 years ago
Those DAY WORKERS pay a lot of taxes. ZERO is what they pay. The illegal Mexicans just payed the U.S. a ton of SWINE FLU. Thanks!!!!!!
geocgeo 2 years ago
In California, 60 hospitals have been forced to close because of unpaid costs to treat illegal invaders. And the legal taxpayers of the USA suffer for it. Why are we asked to slit our own throats to cater to those who abandoned their country, to steal(sorry, no mincing words here) from LEGAL US citizens? Illegals cost the US taxpayer in lost wages and public services nearly $ 2 1/2 TRILLION every year ($2,500,000,000,000!!). We didn't ask you to come here. It is time you faced responsibility.
agentc73 2 years ago