wrc car vs stock sti

[cody5002005]

i love the shifting at 8k lol

[Gwee2008]

stock car lose many time on changing gear. sequential shifter away the best...

[strangelamb]

if someone gives me the stock I would not complain

[wesleysuperman]

I Have a normal WRX (Same shape) and man I would love the power of the STi. never mind the Rally car. thats MAD.

[benjamintg00]

Colin Mcrae would have won with any car.RIP );

[dom0tron]

Pretty fucking impressive for a stock sti without the co-driver

[mangaloveFTW]

looks like the guy in the stock impreza could realllly drive aswell!

[71dime]

lol the guy driving the stock sti is wearing a Mitsubishi Jacket!!!!

[grbquattro]

"Now the gap is only 11 seconds". It seemed like 3s to me.

[extravaganza69]

The 10 sec difference isn't worth 600 000 EURO for me ;)

[demoniacRACING]

briliant video !!! straight to my favourit =)

[b4igetu]

The stock rally cars from Subaru and Mitsubishi already have allot of rally pedigree. Just shows you how much they tune the shit out of the rally cars from the stock.

[DepakoteMeister]

@b4igetu WRC cars aren't tuned production cars. Many share very little with their road going brethren. They are built ground up as a WRC car (which explains for instance why there is no 4WD Ford Focus production car)

[TheEternalUniverse]

@b4igetu WRC cars arnt tuned from the stock. Other than the actual shape of the car, there is virtually nothing in common between them.

[RECUTMedia]

@TheEternalUniverse

although you can easily make a faster car than a WRX car out of a stock car as WRX cars are only like 450hp - 530hp

and any stock car with a turbo can easily be turned into atleast 450hp

[TheEternalUniverse]

@RECUTMedia very true, the WRC cars are limited in the amount of bhp their allowed to have. But a stock car with an engine putting out 1000bph is still a long shot from a wrc car, the subaru alone cost 1million in development, im not sure how much the actual car cost to build.

[HandleWitCare10]

The Mitsubishi guy must have clicked the wrong vid.... Then he got so enraged he just had to click on the dislike button, No matter how hard his dick was.....

[TheHughmoody]

one guy hit the wrong button

[Speedless73]

would be nice to see the gap with the same tires

[Thursday377]

that was so sick when the WRC STi ripped the handbreak and took the hairpin at 0:52

[Trykon95]

What's the top speed difference between the WRC and the stock?

[OMGWTFSILLYGOOSE]

Still impressive the stock STI was able to stay ahead of the World Rally Subaru

[mattheep12]

Subara is as commen as a hydrogen is abundant.. A shame because they're really good cars, just sooo boring, so common, so Essex. GOD THAT UNEQUAL MONIFOLD IS THE MOST PLAYED SOUND EVERRRR. Bald, generaly large, middle age first choice motoring.

[dyockey]

@mattheep12 Lol where the hell do you live? I've never seen a fat bald guy in a Subaru. They are generally in a Charger R/T, or V6 Mustang, Camaro, Challenger.

[rextuner03]

Damn those cars are fucking sexy lol.

[SubaruB4RSK]

ahh 0:53 sex on wheels :D I wish I had enough power to make a turn and keep my speed up a hill.

[agony202]

it still did a good job !!!

[patback1608]

Tires on the sti suck.

[12valvepower1]

subaru is sexy

[jarekdsm]

I have a question. I'm new to AWD, got my STI few days ago, what exactly do I have to do with clutch/brake/e-brake/gas pedals to make a turn like it's shown at 0:50-0:57s?

THANKS

[chrism6]

pull a hand brake just before the corner, clutch in, rev hard then release quickly.

[scoobymarc2009]

@chrism6 ..............Pull a hand brake turn in the awd haha dont think so m8.....lovely smashed diff after it

[LightSpeedOne]

@scoobymarc2009 USDM Sti will do e brake turns with no diff damage, I don't think the euro spec will be any different.

[scoobymarc2009]

@LightSpeedOne Thats where your totally wrong. We have replaced many a smashed diff at our garage due to people who dont no how to drive correctly......You have your views and opinion i have mine.

[LightSpeedOne]

@scoobymarc2009 04 and 05 opens DCCD not rear diff, my mistake above...

Quote: From IWSTI forum

The 04 and 05 STi DCCD's are the only ones that can go completely open when you hit the e-brake. 06+ STI's all have a mechanical LSD for the center in addition to the electronic locking, and its only the electronics that unlock with the e-brake. So there is the potential for damage and/or increased wear on the center diff doing e-brake turns for the 06+ model years.

[scoobymarc2009]

@LightSpeedOne ................true m8 very true

[CasterTown]

You don't need to handbrake in an awd with good diffs. Like with any layout, you're going to want to heel-toe downshift while approaching the corner. Then just turn in hard with weight on the nose. If you find that you're still understeering you can bias more power to the rear by left-foot braking.

[TruenoandLevin86]

@jarekdsm basically what Chrism6 said also don't forget to turn the wheel where you intend to go.

[FoxDie262]

@jarekdsm Hard braking into the corner, set up a slight flick in the opposite direction, clutch in, slight yank on the handbrake, counter steer, and flat out.

[princepersia1]

@italia210 Yeah the thing was being caned and for a stock car its exceptional.

[Gtasacome1]

Its not Solberg its not Chris its Arai who drove Subrau World Rally Team for 2001 and 2002 :P

[12valvepower1]

55 youre right

[ej20mn]

damn, that stock sti sure picks up and go around 50-80mph Nicely and easily.

[Royern]

eheh that is Kmh :P

[princepersia1]

@Royern Actually it is km/h but it equals to 80mph.

[Royern]

sorry to tell you but 60mph is equal to 96km/h

So I don't see your logic on how 80km/h equals 80mph ;P

[princepersia1]

WTF I said its 80mph which equals to 128km/h and it said 80 on the speedo which is in MILES.

[12valvepower1]

400 lbs

[JAYFROMHARLEM]

He drove the fuck outta of that stock STi

WRX OWNER

[12valvepower1]

whos in the wrc. is that chris

[s1rallye]

There is another vid on the net of peter solberg making pace notes so i think it may be him driving.

[12valvepower1]

it did not sound like phil mills though.

[MVdesign]

at 0:55 you can see that the driver is Arai

[numptybaws3]

Sounded like Phil on the notes so probly Solberg

[rafablattner]

great driving in the stock STi

[johnnneg]

wow, that was f#^ken sick

[sbrinzo1985]

certo che un navigatore almeno potevano darglielo al tipo sulla stock.....

[cthhil]

Stock should have also had a co driver

[SR4410]

yeah like wtf, is running a stock car not enough of a crutch. Still very impressed on behalf of the stock sti though

[ecchibanzaii]

@cthhil Not really. The One driving the rally car probably hasn't driven this road that much as that local person.

[mouloudo]

@cthhil the driver was a local japanese driver he know the " touge" like his pocket

[qettyz]

@cthhil Maybe this was familiar road for the stock driver and he didnt need any?

[mistaxray]

@qettyz He said that because of the extra weight.

[greenh]

Chassis is also wider and beefed up than your regular STi. And I read Ithat the semi automatic hydro-electric gear bos and tranmission is much more complicated then a 6-speed sequential transmission. But then again all the WRC cars have them.

[tpvalley]

They also run lower gearing; closer ratios and strait cut gears so u get less bhp lost through transmission.

[EvilRabbiMAn]

pure sex

[creationofsociety]

well think about it they still use road legal tires , that are also available to random ppl , and the restiction still makes the cars 1250 kilos , and resticted to 300 horsepower , knowing that it s still incredible how fast the can get it to go !

[atomi50]

if this is from 2003 and it takes 3.2 sec 0-100 ... damn....

what about new wrc cars?

[princepersia1]

@atomi50 Not really a power difference but a tuning difference as an STi could hit 600hp with custom engine so doesn't really make a difference.

[acingteam]

Seriously, the major differences are: suspension, gear ratios, and weight.

You could see how much stiffer (more controlled) the WRC car is around that 180 degree turn... the acceleration is also faster cause of the lower weight and shorter gear ratios.

[princepersia1]

@acingteam Yeh but the power is up by a bit and so is torque but you're right the body-roll and weight are a huge factor.

[RedlineAllGears]

i dont think an sti is just a road car. trust me i own an 04 and i tell u i can murk shit on dirt, tarmac, gravel, snow just like on rally tracks. it's a rally car + sports car + daily driver (on the ROAD, so yes also a road car.)

[princepersia1]

@RedlineAllGears It is an exceptional car he STi even better than the EVO cause of the EJ25 2.5.

[ayghjib1]

the wrc car has 2liter 300 hp engine but but its all in the torque wich is 568 nm more than a supercar has and almost twice the sti's wich is 300nm but the wrc impreza has shorter grear ratios and a lower top speed wich is normally 250km/h a sti can reach 270km/h in a long long straight line

[Ijustmadethisup4]

Well thats wrong. The STI has 300lb/ft of torque...that translates much higher in NM. I dont know how close it comes to 568nm, but its alot more than 300nm.

[workshop77777]

Ijustmadethisup4 , the road car is no match for the rally car. Even the 2009 Impreza STI only has 407nm of torque. The customer spec WRC Subaru from Prodrive for 2009 comes with 650nm of torque. This would mean the official Subaru team rally car probably has more than 700nm and also weighs 1230kg and not around 1400kg like a the road version. This film look like its from 2003 and the road car is the JDM version with probably around 350nm of torque I would say.

[princepersia1]

@Ijustmadethisup4 I don't think a stock STi has 568Nm that would be huge.

[filipzanetic]

@princepersia1 it have 400Nm

[princepersia1]

Yeh so pretty high still

[filipzanetic]

@princepersia1 yep

[princepersia1]

@ayghjib1 So how do they restrict the power?

[ayghjib1]

i think they use turbo restrictors, to limit the power to 300 hp, thats why rallycross cars (that dont have restrictors) have around 550-650 hp or even more and alot of torque (around 650 nm in normal rallycross cars)

[DaFrenchman5O]

I still find this quite amazing, I was sure that the road car would be overtaken.

[johnrobertgordon]

The wrc cars have restrictors in the inlet. The max BHP is 300. The torque however is way higher than the road going version. Weight makes a huge difference too.

[tomblord12]

well wrc is seriously more powerfull than sti... they say that wrc has only 300hp but i think they have more like 400+hp when in rally. that makes a difference too. and sti is desinged to be a road car with some luxury compared to rally car :D so it weights more too

[sssdfrfwrgr]

no its the rules they have to have 300 hp. the wrc car just handles so much better than a normal sti.

[peevee79]

That's 300hp on paper, in real life it is much more.

[zeroflat24]

i actually met one of subaru rallys car techs he said he couldnt say exactly how much HP it had, but he said it had an insane amount of torque. so its probably 300hp but like 450-500ftlbs of torque.

[dwilki1174]

all WRC cars are limited to 300bhp through the FIA rules

[zeroflat24]

yeah i knew about the WRC cars HP but my question was how much torque do they produce?

[trevoo6]

difference is the sti road car is built for exactly that, THE ROAD