can you perhaps have a tesla coil generator on standby that is connected to earth. perhaps if this is done any arc over will prefer to go to ground via this method rather than through a human being!
you lose some wattage in the voltage to amperage conversion but i guess the cell produces waaaay more efficiently in a high amperage low voltage enviroment is that the gist of the OU here?
Sorry for my late reply, I was at the 2010 Tesla Expo where we sold out of all of my Starship coil models, They were so powerful that other exhibitors replaced their coils with a Starship coil. There will be new videos of the expo coming soon!
I also did a presentation and hand on demo of this circuit.........it was a hit at the show.
At the moment you said you arrived at 200% unity i did some measurement 3.3 A x 12 v in= 39.6 watts your current in cell is 6.3 A x 2.79 V = 17.577 watts .. Can you elucidate for me where the overuniy is if immissingsomething ..... I reallyhope I am because ive bee working to suceed in this for a long tie and ireally g exited when i saw yur vids i just trying to understand where the overunity isthank you so much ,, and good luck!!! I hope you can get back to me thank you
@sdfab See this video for the whole picture "HHO What is over unity and whats not" Youtube doesn't allow linking to the comment page, really a short coming for them Also you need to look at all of the videos pertaining to this subject, can't just look at one, this question has been asked and answered many times. This is going to be shown at the Tesla Expo this week end. Thanks for question and thinking it out.
Why do you feel that it is necessary use a shut for the meter on the left but perfectly acceptable to use the meters internal shut on the meter at the far right. The internal DC amp shut built into the meter will have the same percentage accuracy measuring 1.1A as it would measuring 2.18 Amps. I also do not understand how you believe this is Over Unity when you even admit the output efficiency only measures 92%
@ke4uyp You can not use the internal shunt of the meters because the current can exceed 10 amps and burn up and, the meter on the far right will never approach 10 amps and is least important, plus I want the main current meters to be matched so they can swapped in position.
I asked you not to post until you have viewed all the videos, and your other question would have been answered in full if you did, so your are banned from posting for 3 months, I am sorry but my time is of value
@ke4uyp First you don't understand what a current shut is 1MV = 1 amp, so that meter will read up to 200 amps. I am not going to answer your other question because all of that is covered in later videos. By the way the input voltage was not 12v is was around 10.48 v which put the conversion at about 92%. See the setup with 4 meters.
@ke4uyp Cheap meter connected to percision current shunt made, matched, and balance by me. Stop and think, even if the meters were off 20% off look at the ratio, also look at the video where I used analog meters, Come and see me at the Tesla Expo, bring your own meters and see for yourself. On one of my other videos there is an attached video from Germany duplicating the results.
Things I can't do if I don't try. Create Unicorns from potato peels Telkinetic space travel Force the Earth to be flat Overunity Things I can't do no matter how much I try, no matter how much I believe, because they're impossible. Create Unicorns from potato peels Telkinetic space travel Force the Earth to be flat Overunity Are we getting the picture yet?
Ever heard of a "Tunnel Diode" Negative Resistance Amplifier? These both are over unity devices that Nasa & the phone companies have used for years. Since I have post all my research with easy to follow videos and more that one circuit, it is in your court to prove me wrong, plus since my circuit has been dupicated by others and it works 100%. I will not except anymore post from you since its a waste of my and other Youtubers.
Tunnel Diodes exhibit negative resistance, not overunity. They don't give back more energy than you put into them.
And yes NASA uses them, but not because of some overunity fantasy. NASA isn't in the habit of violating the laws of physics, even if you insist they have to.
Noooooooo..... NASA doesn't have overunity devices hidden in their super-secret basements... and neither do you.
Great stuff - I think you have something very interesting and very different going on in your circuit - If you don't mind I'll give it a try?
Fans - Possible high static arc's across the carbon bearings? Tricky one with so much going on in your circuit? Once you have it open you might see the tracks?
Anything I post, you are welcome to use. When I took the squire cage fan apart, the ICs were blown apart, and with the muffin fans, one or more of the four windings were burned.
Build up of static eventually has to discharge somewhere - fan control board -0V would do the trick and frazzle the lot!
davidrrd has a point, V spikes could also be the culprit but I would have expected further damage on your circuits and test equipment if it could blow a fan winding???
I think most of those fans don't like voltage over 12 vdc, I've burned some out myself on pwm's, best to have regulated volts , maybe. Sorta got me wondering If I want to try this with my new pwr supply, but I think the battery will protect it...? Gary
So is it only fans now that are getting fried, and are you running your protection circuit also ? I'm going to order my ferrite rods, hope to start winding the 3 soon still decideing how big of a guage of wire, think I will go with 3 seperate rods in mineral oil just for cooling purposes, but you know me I like to over build... Gary
No, I lost a new 450 watt "Thermal Lake" PC power supply, smoked the Sears 200 amp battery charger, plus the fans. The protection circuit fixed the problem. I want to say this damaged only occured with some freq / mark space settings. Using 17ga. wire or larger will eliminate the heating problem. Putting in oil is also a good idea. More info in part 2.
Look at the meters, the voltage across the cell is around 3.5 volts. The supply is 12 volts DC. This is controlled by the electrolyte mix. Sorry I don't have a way to look at noise or noise phase shift
This is the continuing research of current / power over unity "Rod Buck Voltage Convertor" It all started out to find a cheap way to convert 12 volts DC to 3.5 volts DC. Now it has evolved in to reduce the drain from the cars's battery / alternator system to run HHO cells. In part 2 you will see 1200% current over unity. The trade off is 0.1 amp from the power source produces 1.3 amps fed to the cell. As the duty cycle is longer, the more current you will have but less current over unity. ......
I'm not an electric engineer, but I'm also working on a resonating over unity coil. It's way different than your coil. I started by making a toroid out of loops of wire, then wound a Marko Rodin coil over it. When I pulse the Rodin coil to the sweet spot, a huge jump in voltage happens, and there is no over heating problem.
Have you tried using a back EMF filter between your coil and fan?
..............The way to have your cake and eat it too is to have very short duty cycles with the use of multi one shots driving either the same mosfet / coil or several mosfet / coils circuits. There should not be any problem scaling this upward. There is another person using my circuit in the process of do that now.
I dont have the answer dude . its gonna take a lot of test to find a way to control the overunity of the colapsing field. many have burned up there shit with these very same experiments . I tip my hat to ya and wish I could be there and watch this in person, to watch and give input in real time
can you perhaps have a tesla coil generator on standby that is connected to earth. perhaps if this is done any arc over will prefer to go to ground via this method rather than through a human being!
CASLUVR 7 months ago
can you cool the dfd with die ice or LN? does this help?
CASLUVR 7 months ago
This may sound silly, but what happens when you put the ferrous rod inside the starship's centre with your current config?
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lutherarao 1 year ago
you lose some wattage in the voltage to amperage conversion but i guess the cell produces waaaay more efficiently in a high amperage low voltage enviroment is that the gist of the OU here?
sdfab 1 year ago
@sdfab
Sorry for my late reply, I was at the 2010 Tesla Expo where we sold out of all of my Starship coil models, They were so powerful that other exhibitors replaced their coils with a Starship coil. There will be new videos of the expo coming soon!
I also did a presentation and hand on demo of this circuit.........it was a hit at the show.
Richard
hhoforvolts 1 year ago
At the moment you said you arrived at 200% unity i did some measurement 3.3 A x 12 v in= 39.6 watts your current in cell is 6.3 A x 2.79 V = 17.577 watts .. Can you elucidate for me where the overuniy is if immissingsomething ..... I reallyhope I am because ive bee working to suceed in this for a long tie and ireally g exited when i saw yur vids i just trying to understand where the overunity isthank you so much ,, and good luck!!! I hope you can get back to me thank you
sdfab 1 year ago
@sdfab Your just looking at the power at the HHO cell, not the entire circuit.
hhoforvolts 1 year ago
@sdfab See this video for the whole picture "HHO What is over unity and whats not" Youtube doesn't allow linking to the comment page, really a short coming for them Also you need to look at all of the videos pertaining to this subject, can't just look at one, this question has been asked and answered many times. This is going to be shown at the Tesla Expo this week end. Thanks for question and thinking it out.
Richard
hhoforvolts 1 year ago
OK you said that the input voltage is 10.48V X 1.1A = 11.528 watts
Cell voltage 2.31V X 4.0A = 9.24 watts and that is 80% of 11.528 watts
80% efficiency is not Over Unity
ke4uyp 1 year ago
Why do you feel that it is necessary use a shut for the meter on the left but perfectly acceptable to use the meters internal shut on the meter at the far right. The internal DC amp shut built into the meter will have the same percentage accuracy measuring 1.1A as it would measuring 2.18 Amps. I also do not understand how you believe this is Over Unity when you even admit the output efficiency only measures 92%
ke4uyp 1 year ago
@ke4uyp You can not use the internal shunt of the meters because the current can exceed 10 amps and burn up and, the meter on the far right will never approach 10 amps and is least important, plus I want the main current meters to be matched so they can swapped in position.
I asked you not to post until you have viewed all the videos, and your other question would have been answered in full if you did, so your are banned from posting for 3 months, I am sorry but my time is of value
Richard
hhoforvolts 1 year ago
You said,
("By the way the input voltage was not 12v is was around 10.48 v which put the conversion at about 92%")
BTW it is not a conversion it is a measurement of output efficiency.
ke4uyp 1 year ago
OK 92 percent efficiency and this is provided you do not include the heat loss from the coil how is this revolutionary technology?
ke4uyp 1 year ago
How can you accurately determine the efficiency of this circuit if you have never measured the input voltage?
You have only measured the input current.
ke4uyp 1 year ago
Please explain to me how you can measure correctly DC amps with a meter set on the DC mV scale?
At 1 minute into the video the far left meter is set on the 200 mV DC scale not DC amps.
You have the Same set up for the meter to the right of the far left meter it is also set on the 200 mV DC scale not DC amps.
ke4uyp 1 year ago
@ke4uyp First you don't understand what a current shut is 1MV = 1 amp, so that meter will read up to 200 amps. I am not going to answer your other question because all of that is covered in later videos. By the way the input voltage was not 12v is was around 10.48 v which put the conversion at about 92%. See the setup with 4 meters.
Richard
hhoforvolts 1 year ago
Cen-Tech 7 Function Digital Multimeter Item # 92020 HARBOR FREIGHT TOOLS
$11.99 not exactly what I call a laboratory grade measuring device.
ke4uyp 1 year ago
@ke4uyp Well if you paid that, you got screwed, I paid $1.79 USD
hhoforvolts 1 year ago
How can you base your earth shattering discovery on a handful of cheap RMS reading meters?
ke4uyp 1 year ago
@ke4uyp Cheap meter connected to percision current shunt made, matched, and balance by me. Stop and think, even if the meters were off 20% off look at the ratio, also look at the video where I used analog meters, Come and see me at the Tesla Expo, bring your own meters and see for yourself. On one of my other videos there is an attached video from Germany duplicating the results.
hhoforvolts 1 year ago
don't waist too much of your life on this /: i didn't like the result i got when i did on something else :3
xXxGenasai 1 year ago
Too bad,I have results.
hhoforvolts 1 year ago
Are there really still people who believe in this overunity crap?
Then again, there's people who still believe the earth is flat, so I guess it's not that much of a surprise.
witchtelus 2 years ago
No we don't believe, we know. Build the circuit and then retract your post.
hhoforvolts 2 years ago
I can't build an overunity circuit. Nobody can. Nobody ever has.
I also cannot build unicorns from potato peelings. Only a fool would expect to be able to.
witchtelus 2 years ago
Yes you can't unless you try
hhoforvolts 2 years ago
witchtelus 2 years ago
Ever heard of a "Tunnel Diode" Negative Resistance Amplifier? These both are over unity devices that Nasa & the phone companies have used for years. Since I have post all my research with easy to follow videos and more that one circuit, it is in your court to prove me wrong, plus since my circuit has been dupicated by others and it works 100%. I will not except anymore post from you since its a waste of my and other Youtubers.
hhoforvolts 2 years ago
Tunnel Diodes?
ROFLMAO!!!
Tunnel Diodes exhibit negative resistance, not overunity. They don't give back more energy than you put into them.
And yes NASA uses them, but not because of some overunity fantasy. NASA isn't in the habit of violating the laws of physics, even if you insist they have to.
Noooooooo..... NASA doesn't have overunity devices hidden in their super-secret basements... and neither do you.
Witchtelus2 2 years ago
How do electrons spin? Is that perpetual motion?
faisalsaeed80 1 year ago
the problem is the back MFI so connect 2X10,000MF on power supply output and a 1000MF near the fan
nicolaebaciu1954 2 years ago
Great stuff - I think you have something very interesting and very different going on in your circuit - If you don't mind I'll give it a try?
Fans - Possible high static arc's across the carbon bearings? Tricky one with so much going on in your circuit? Once you have it open you might see the tracks?
reeseht 2 years ago
Anything I post, you are welcome to use. When I took the squire cage fan apart, the ICs were blown apart, and with the muffin fans, one or more of the four windings were burned.
hhoforvolts 2 years ago
Many thanks.
Build up of static eventually has to discharge somewhere - fan control board -0V would do the trick and frazzle the lot!
davidrrd has a point, V spikes could also be the culprit but I would have expected further damage on your circuits and test equipment if it could blow a fan winding???
This'll sound obvious but check your grounding...
You'll find the problem... keep us informed?
Love your honesty 'warts and all' attitude!!
reeseht 2 years ago
Yes my new old scope could have bit the dust for sure.
hhoforvolts 2 years ago
how about random;y placeing bridge rectifyers threwout your circitry to filter out ac spikes,
cap's for high voltage spikes.
davidrrrd 2 years ago
The problem is a 1.2 voltage drop per bridge.
hhoforvolts 2 years ago
see if you can detect ac any place where thers saposed to be dc
davidrrrd 2 years ago
Yes there is, hi voltage ringing at the + & - cell connections.
hhoforvolts 2 years ago
I think most of those fans don't like voltage over 12 vdc, I've burned some out myself on pwm's, best to have regulated volts , maybe. Sorta got me wondering If I want to try this with my new pwr supply, but I think the battery will protect it...? Gary
llewgnal 2 years ago
I got a new PC power supply and with the protection circuit no problem so far. Yes the battery will act as a shunt filter.
hhoforvolts 2 years ago
So is it only fans now that are getting fried, and are you running your protection circuit also ? I'm going to order my ferrite rods, hope to start winding the 3 soon still decideing how big of a guage of wire, think I will go with 3 seperate rods in mineral oil just for cooling purposes, but you know me I like to over build... Gary
llewgnal 2 years ago
No, I lost a new 450 watt "Thermal Lake" PC power supply, smoked the Sears 200 amp battery charger, plus the fans. The protection circuit fixed the problem. I want to say this damaged only occured with some freq / mark space settings. Using 17ga. wire or larger will eliminate the heating problem. Putting in oil is also a good idea. More info in part 2.
hhoforvolts 2 years ago
current is all you give?
how about volts?
noise in the lines?
polarity shifts in the noise?
you need to take other readings while the shit's running!
davidrrrd 2 years ago
Look at the meters, the voltage across the cell is around 3.5 volts. The supply is 12 volts DC. This is controlled by the electrolyte mix. Sorry I don't have a way to look at noise or noise phase shift
hhoforvolts 2 years ago
This is the continuing research of current / power over unity "Rod Buck Voltage Convertor" It all started out to find a cheap way to convert 12 volts DC to 3.5 volts DC. Now it has evolved in to reduce the drain from the cars's battery / alternator system to run HHO cells. In part 2 you will see 1200% current over unity. The trade off is 0.1 amp from the power source produces 1.3 amps fed to the cell. As the duty cycle is longer, the more current you will have but less current over unity. ......
hhoforvolts 2 years ago
Very strange to say the least...
I'm not an electric engineer, but I'm also working on a resonating over unity coil. It's way different than your coil. I started by making a toroid out of loops of wire, then wound a Marko Rodin coil over it. When I pulse the Rodin coil to the sweet spot, a huge jump in voltage happens, and there is no over heating problem.
Have you tried using a back EMF filter between your coil and fan?
Peace.
Mike.
mikepowers420 2 years ago
..............The way to have your cake and eat it too is to have very short duty cycles with the use of multi one shots driving either the same mosfet / coil or several mosfet / coils circuits. There should not be any problem scaling this upward. There is another person using my circuit in the process of do that now.
hhoforvolts 2 years ago
Mike, that on my 'MUST TO DO LIST" Look at the video "Over Unity Protection" on how I solved the problem. Many thanks for your post.
Richard
hhoforvolts 2 years ago
I dont have the answer dude . its gonna take a lot of test to find a way to control the overunity of the colapsing field. many have burned up there shit with these very same experiments . I tip my hat to ya and wish I could be there and watch this in person, to watch and give input in real time
uawwildbob 2 years ago
If your ever in Glendale AZ., give me a call. Thanks for your interest.
Richard
hhoforvolts 2 years ago