i did my leaving cert history research topic on the operations to destroy the facilities at rjukan. read ray mears book on the operations and many more books including one written by one of the sabotuers. the story of what they actually did is just incredible-always amazes me
Ray Mears' BBC documentary series on the Heroes of Telemark was a most fitting tribute to the greatly brave and physically tough Norwegian sabotage teams that executed the Telemark raids in 1942/43. Even during World War II when bravery was the norm and heroism was not uncommon on either side, the Norwegian teams that raided Norsk Hydro's Vermork heavy-water plant and their associated operations at Telemark stand out as quite remarkable and most extraordinary men.
Norwegians are the winter =.=! What you connect with cold is somthing otherless then what us Norwegians would say is cold. You cant be better then a Norwegian when it is about sea or snow and winter.
I see your an patriot... Norway have always have an long traditon with a great and big navy, from Viking times and to newer ages.
We live in the winter man... Stop trying to say you are better then us in winter warfare. If there is somthing you can never take away from Norway, then it is that we are the best in winter warfare in the world.
HELOOOOOOOOOO READ MY COMMENTS AGAIN!!! i dont say marines are better. i respect that you guys live in long, hard and very cold winters. for one thing the Dutch navy IS and always HAS been better then scandanevian ones. do your homework and check it on wikipedia or something we dutch have a big history of sea warfare. and we have much units how are trained for winterwarfare like our marines to help norway out ( becauze of NATO) when the chinees or russians come.
You point it out as if Norway is weak nation and need help from the big country Nederland. You know Norway could only need to use on F-16 to blow up one of your Dams, and you would been finished? Well, sience when had Nederland any betther navy then Norway? Not under Viking times, not in the 1800 centurey. Our navy is also one of the biggest in Europe, and absolutely one of the best trained. Dont try to downgrade our navy history mate. Yeh I do my homework, and read alot of history.
LOL i didnt pointed out that norway was a weak nation and im sure that there millitary is very good becauze you lucky basterds have oil :P but hey, we have BRAINS and KNOWLEGDE wich means that WE ALSO HAVE A GOOD MILLITARY!!! infact Holland has the best F16 fighters along side the USA of the hole world, hightech ships ( our own technologie and yes they shoot down f 16 to...) well, excualty i think the Netherlands have had a better navy then norway since the 1600
Well, we do also have our own stealth boats, made only by Norway, our own model. Totally new boats, there is no other boat which are the same. Ok, good you have nice aircraf, I dont know about that in Norway, but I know we have one of the highest trained militarys in Europe. Well, after the list of the formost experts 1600-1800 history, Norway came at a third place with their navy. That was after Spain and Great britain.
Where was your BRAINS during 2WW when Hitler smached your weak little country Holland? Norway was one of the Allied which did the biggest contributions in 2WW by means of their Nortraship fleet counting 1000 ships which supplied 60% of all vital goods to UK from USA, and 30% fuel needed for D-Day. If it not was for the brave Norwegians that destructed Worlds only Heavywaterplant in Norway, you would have been speaking german today. Your flat wasteland didn't do nothing for the allied :)
Well I must say that you ar partly right ! Not exactly my brains, more the brains of the pasifists people, who ruled the country at that time, didnt feld that there might be a VERY BIG CHANCH to be attacked. They just ignord the facts. But the Dutch armed forces, an army with rifles from 1890 and artillery and anti arcraft guns ( vickers :) ) from the WW1 did hold the german panzers, SS and paratroopers for 5 days, crucial for the defence of belgium and france.( to be continued )
Narvik in Norway was Hitlers first defeat in 2WW...and it took him 3 months to conquer the country. Norwegians sunk a lot of german ships, especially Blücher which killed over 1000 nazi soldiers. Your flat wasteland was conquered in 2 days. So don't gimme any shit little boy. Norways huge effort with the allied was significant in 2WW. Your little weak country didn't do nothing..and Hitler starved your population
What had norway to defend it self??? ALLIES, THE BEST FUCKING LANDSCAPE TO DEFEND, LONG ARCTIC MOUNTAINSESS TERRAIN WICH ONLY NORWEGIANS KNOW THE WAY. and they still didnt succeed in winning. Finnish did if im not mistaken ;)
And as a another guy mentioned here, it would have taken me only 2 or 3 Norwegian, Kongsberg Rb 12 Penguin missiles to ended your country by blowed up a couple of dams..then you would been history LOL
finns fought russians your bugger, and not the worlds best army, the German.
The Russian army did not wake up before end of the worldwar, and finally conquered the german one.
But all respect to the finns, they did a good job, but the russian army we saw in 1939, was a completely different one than in 1945.
However, Norway did a HUGE effort in 2WW by their Merchant fleet, which was the third largest, and fastest in the world. Whitout them D-Day would been delayed. Holland did not do fuck all!
Missile Systems division of Kongsberg Defence Systems has almost 50 years experience from a variety of missile programs. Kongsberg is a WORLD LEADER in missiles with Infra Red Seekers, which finds wider and wider applications, as users around the world realize the short comings of missiles with radar seekers. The Missile Systems Division applies a wide range of competence and technologies, ranging from Electro-Optics Automatic Control and Simulation, Electronics, Fluid and Flight Mechanics :)
besides, if you really think you can destroy the netherlands by blowing up dikes, well then it might be better to stop talking to this bottemless pit of stupidness
the germans didnt climb up to our mountians cus they didnt have the abillety to survive in such a harsh landscape.. instead they took out our capital(after a delae - blücher) by drooping paratroopers first, then capture our plane stations.. then they fleew and droped troops off at the stations.. during our occupation they were mostly stationed in our citys and blocked our borders etc.. we are just 4.5 mill norwegians so how could we fight back when they had an army stationed in norway that was
10 times bigger than ours? there are like what.. 60 mill germans? every single battle the germans won in norway was urban battles.. cus they are mostly urban ppl(except for ppls in the alps). when battles in the mountians took place we beated them, but in oslo or trondheim etc, we didnt stand a chance! its not like u think it is dutchboy! only german elite troops like fallschirmjägers and alphunters had even the guts to fight in the mountians, and we gave them hell most of the time!
most battles in the defence of norway where won by the british... ow and correct me if you think its wrong :), germans have always been good at close quatre combat. im still asking my self why the scandanavians joined finland instad of some men with guts voluntering. that why i dont think you can say that ''scandanavian brothers stand together'' we dutch also helped belgium in the first world war ( 10 million taking care of 1 million refugees while the economie sucked ass because of the war )
ye most sea and air battles in norway was won by the british yes. i cant say what they did on land, cus i dont know. our resistance was light though so we did what we could. we still won major norwegian battles without british help u know. our resistance were most sabotage missions where we blow up loads of loads with german war ships(ask and ill tell). i didnt understand what u meant with "scandinavian brother stand together".. so explain it plz =)
btw im not saying that we were strong and invincible back then! we got occupied after 3 months nonetheless, but im just saying that ur statement about the "BEST FUCKING LANDSCAPE TO DEFEND, LONG ARTIC MOUNTANS WHICH ONLY NORWEGIANS KNEW THE WAY " sounded a little wrong.. its true, but they didnt occupie our contry in the mountians if u see what i mean? =p
all battles in Norway was won by thr allies. Norwegians didnt win anything because we didnt have an army, and the silly government refused to raise an army when we were attacked. In fact, people who voluntered at the nearly abandoned army camps were told to go home.
they did on the streets, on villages and in forests ofc, but not on the mountians.. cant u see what im trying to say here? read what ive said.. im not saying we were any better than them, just that we won battles on mountinas, and we defeated the first wave of fallschirmjäger that went down.. and we won the battle at elverum trying to defend the kings escape. im not saying we kicked their asses during ww2, im just telling about their deafets, and especially in the mountians where we had adv.
ofc we could stay in the mountians and wave down at the germans who starved or freezed to death while they climeb up the way in the mountians, but i think u know that when every single city is under german control, the mountians is for no good use when norwegian rebbels got shoot on the streets down in oslo.. am i right? holding back the germans in 3 months is good enough when their enemies were mostly norwegian farmers and atletics (and a light norwegian millitary, with a few winterwar vets)...
and btw!: finnland got help from norwegians, swedish and danish ppl during the winterwar! we stood together like brothers helping finland! ppl voulenterd from all around in scandinavia to help out our neighbourcountry against the red army, and finland didnt stay alone like we did after the french invasion when the brits, french and polaks had to move out to help france.. we stayed in finland helping them push the red army back!
However, You must consider to studdy the dutch situation after 2 days in the german attack. You will see that the germans where grind to a hold around fortress holland. You will see that it all that been attiefed without any help ( accept of some french who ren away in zeeland ). You will see that in hitlers frustration he decides to carpet bomb Rotterdam. You will see that in a few days new and better equipment and supplys from england where rolling in.572 planes of luftwaffe where shot down.
Did you know the story of the marines at rotterdam? only a few marines hold the bridges over the maas agains a brigade of paratroopers? and that, when the netherlands surrenderd and they saw who had made sure that they did not had succeed, the paratroopers soluded the few dutch marines out of respect? and that those marines mostly only had been trained for 3 months and wherent quallified marines?? The paratroopers gave them the name Black Devils ( because of there coats ).
take a look at the zeven provincien class for example... the dutch have some of the greatest admirals of mankind in history... and who are those formost experts you were talking about?
superb operation military , thanks to england to have help norway in 2ww
MrUrdal 1 week ago
These men where hard as nails, kids today don't know how easy they have it.
diamonddiver 2 years ago 5
i did my leaving cert history research topic on the operations to destroy the facilities at rjukan. read ray mears book on the operations and many more books including one written by one of the sabotuers. the story of what they actually did is just incredible-always amazes me
mwwhahahahahaha 2 years ago
Thanks for that.
You can be proud of your rangers too,they are rated among the best.
seawolf1451 2 years ago
stop saying british etc. are better. They're not. They're just a million to one, which would make anyone better.
torjus8 3 years ago
Haha, my respect for Ray Mears just doubled. And I already had a lot of respect for him.
Would love to see the entire docu uploaded!
SoakyBeaver 3 years ago 2
Ray Mears' BBC documentary series on the Heroes of Telemark was a most fitting tribute to the greatly brave and physically tough Norwegian sabotage teams that executed the Telemark raids in 1942/43. Even during World War II when bravery was the norm and heroism was not uncommon on either side, the Norwegian teams that raided Norsk Hydro's Vermork heavy-water plant and their associated operations at Telemark stand out as quite remarkable and most extraordinary men.
flintlight4 4 years ago 8
hear hear
stevenorway 3 years ago
Thoose winter specialist better be Norwegian lol. Or else he is not in safe hands.
TurbofritzsDanidritt 3 years ago
hahah you know that the british and dutch marines will be on the northnflank of NATO so there very good in winter warfare
DutchPetriot 3 years ago
Norwegians are the winter =.=! What you connect with cold is somthing otherless then what us Norwegians would say is cold. You cant be better then a Norwegian when it is about sea or snow and winter.
TurbofritzsDanidritt 3 years ago
LOL DUTCH AND BIRITH MARINES are winterwarfare specialists and they train with the norwegian army regulairly. and on sea we ARE better
DutchPetriot 3 years ago
I see your an patriot... Norway have always have an long traditon with a great and big navy, from Viking times and to newer ages.
We live in the winter man... Stop trying to say you are better then us in winter warfare. If there is somthing you can never take away from Norway, then it is that we are the best in winter warfare in the world.
TurbofritzsDanidritt 3 years ago
HELOOOOOOOOOO READ MY COMMENTS AGAIN!!! i dont say marines are better. i respect that you guys live in long, hard and very cold winters. for one thing the Dutch navy IS and always HAS been better then scandanevian ones. do your homework and check it on wikipedia or something we dutch have a big history of sea warfare. and we have much units how are trained for winterwarfare like our marines to help norway out ( becauze of NATO) when the chinees or russians come.
DutchPetriot 3 years ago
You point it out as if Norway is weak nation and need help from the big country Nederland. You know Norway could only need to use on F-16 to blow up one of your Dams, and you would been finished? Well, sience when had Nederland any betther navy then Norway? Not under Viking times, not in the 1800 centurey. Our navy is also one of the biggest in Europe, and absolutely one of the best trained. Dont try to downgrade our navy history mate. Yeh I do my homework, and read alot of history.
TurbofritzsDanidritt 3 years ago
LOL i didnt pointed out that norway was a weak nation and im sure that there millitary is very good becauze you lucky basterds have oil :P but hey, we have BRAINS and KNOWLEGDE wich means that WE ALSO HAVE A GOOD MILLITARY!!! infact Holland has the best F16 fighters along side the USA of the hole world, hightech ships ( our own technologie and yes they shoot down f 16 to...) well, excualty i think the Netherlands have had a better navy then norway since the 1600
DutchPetriot 3 years ago
Well, we do also have our own stealth boats, made only by Norway, our own model. Totally new boats, there is no other boat which are the same. Ok, good you have nice aircraf, I dont know about that in Norway, but I know we have one of the highest trained militarys in Europe. Well, after the list of the formost experts 1600-1800 history, Norway came at a third place with their navy. That was after Spain and Great britain.
TurbofritzsDanidritt 3 years ago
Where was your BRAINS during 2WW when Hitler smached your weak little country Holland? Norway was one of the Allied which did the biggest contributions in 2WW by means of their Nortraship fleet counting 1000 ships which supplied 60% of all vital goods to UK from USA, and 30% fuel needed for D-Day. If it not was for the brave Norwegians that destructed Worlds only Heavywaterplant in Norway, you would have been speaking german today. Your flat wasteland didn't do nothing for the allied :)
brassas 2 years ago
Well I must say that you ar partly right ! Not exactly my brains, more the brains of the pasifists people, who ruled the country at that time, didnt feld that there might be a VERY BIG CHANCH to be attacked. They just ignord the facts. But the Dutch armed forces, an army with rifles from 1890 and artillery and anti arcraft guns ( vickers :) ) from the WW1 did hold the german panzers, SS and paratroopers for 5 days, crucial for the defence of belgium and france.( to be continued )
DutchPetriot 2 years ago
Narvik in Norway was Hitlers first defeat in 2WW...and it took him 3 months to conquer the country. Norwegians sunk a lot of german ships, especially Blücher which killed over 1000 nazi soldiers. Your flat wasteland was conquered in 2 days. So don't gimme any shit little boy. Norways huge effort with the allied was significant in 2WW. Your little weak country didn't do nothing..and Hitler starved your population
brassas 2 years ago
What had norway to defend it self??? ALLIES, THE BEST FUCKING LANDSCAPE TO DEFEND, LONG ARCTIC MOUNTAINSESS TERRAIN WICH ONLY NORWEGIANS KNOW THE WAY. and they still didnt succeed in winning. Finnish did if im not mistaken ;)
DutchPetriot 2 years ago
And as a another guy mentioned here, it would have taken me only 2 or 3 Norwegian, Kongsberg Rb 12 Penguin missiles to ended your country by blowed up a couple of dams..then you would been history LOL
brassas 2 years ago
finns fought russians your bugger, and not the worlds best army, the German.
The Russian army did not wake up before end of the worldwar, and finally conquered the german one.
But all respect to the finns, they did a good job, but the russian army we saw in 1939, was a completely different one than in 1945.
However, Norway did a HUGE effort in 2WW by their Merchant fleet, which was the third largest, and fastest in the world. Whitout them D-Day would been delayed. Holland did not do fuck all!
brassas 2 years ago
Missile Systems division of Kongsberg Defence Systems has almost 50 years experience from a variety of missile programs. Kongsberg is a WORLD LEADER in missiles with Infra Red Seekers, which finds wider and wider applications, as users around the world realize the short comings of missiles with radar seekers. The Missile Systems Division applies a wide range of competence and technologies, ranging from Electro-Optics Automatic Control and Simulation, Electronics, Fluid and Flight Mechanics :)
brassas 2 years ago
besides, if you really think you can destroy the netherlands by blowing up dikes, well then it might be better to stop talking to this bottemless pit of stupidness
DutchPetriot 2 years ago
Holland is a beautiful country..but when you give norwegians shit..they give you shit back
brassas 2 years ago
I hope nobody will destroy holland, but the worst enemy is the ocean, which will for sure destroy it sooner or later :(
brassas 2 years ago
the germans didnt climb up to our mountians cus they didnt have the abillety to survive in such a harsh landscape.. instead they took out our capital(after a delae - blücher) by drooping paratroopers first, then capture our plane stations.. then they fleew and droped troops off at the stations.. during our occupation they were mostly stationed in our citys and blocked our borders etc.. we are just 4.5 mill norwegians so how could we fight back when they had an army stationed in norway that was
jayti83 2 years ago
10 times bigger than ours? there are like what.. 60 mill germans? every single battle the germans won in norway was urban battles.. cus they are mostly urban ppl(except for ppls in the alps). when battles in the mountians took place we beated them, but in oslo or trondheim etc, we didnt stand a chance! its not like u think it is dutchboy! only german elite troops like fallschirmjägers and alphunters had even the guts to fight in the mountians, and we gave them hell most of the time!
jayti83 2 years ago
most battles in the defence of norway where won by the british... ow and correct me if you think its wrong :), germans have always been good at close quatre combat. im still asking my self why the scandanavians joined finland instad of some men with guts voluntering. that why i dont think you can say that ''scandanavian brothers stand together'' we dutch also helped belgium in the first world war ( 10 million taking care of 1 million refugees while the economie sucked ass because of the war )
DutchPetriot 2 years ago
ye most sea and air battles in norway was won by the british yes. i cant say what they did on land, cus i dont know. our resistance was light though so we did what we could. we still won major norwegian battles without british help u know. our resistance were most sabotage missions where we blow up loads of loads with german war ships(ask and ill tell). i didnt understand what u meant with "scandinavian brother stand together".. so explain it plz =)
jayti83 2 years ago
btw im not saying that we were strong and invincible back then! we got occupied after 3 months nonetheless, but im just saying that ur statement about the "BEST FUCKING LANDSCAPE TO DEFEND, LONG ARTIC MOUNTANS WHICH ONLY NORWEGIANS KNEW THE WAY " sounded a little wrong.. its true, but they didnt occupie our contry in the mountians if u see what i mean? =p
jayti83 2 years ago
they went to the streets, since we had advantage in the mountians
jayti83 2 years ago
all battles in Norway was won by thr allies. Norwegians didnt win anything because we didnt have an army, and the silly government refused to raise an army when we were attacked. In fact, people who voluntered at the nearly abandoned army camps were told to go home.
basetarded 2 years ago
You're wrong. The Germans kicked our asses in 99% of the times.
basetarded 2 years ago
they did on the streets, on villages and in forests ofc, but not on the mountians.. cant u see what im trying to say here? read what ive said.. im not saying we were any better than them, just that we won battles on mountinas, and we defeated the first wave of fallschirmjäger that went down.. and we won the battle at elverum trying to defend the kings escape. im not saying we kicked their asses during ww2, im just telling about their deafets, and especially in the mountians where we had adv.
jayti83 2 years ago
ofc we could stay in the mountians and wave down at the germans who starved or freezed to death while they climeb up the way in the mountians, but i think u know that when every single city is under german control, the mountians is for no good use when norwegian rebbels got shoot on the streets down in oslo.. am i right? holding back the germans in 3 months is good enough when their enemies were mostly norwegian farmers and atletics (and a light norwegian millitary, with a few winterwar vets)...
jayti83 2 years ago
and btw!: finnland got help from norwegians, swedish and danish ppl during the winterwar! we stood together like brothers helping finland! ppl voulenterd from all around in scandinavia to help out our neighbourcountry against the red army, and finland didnt stay alone like we did after the french invasion when the brits, french and polaks had to move out to help france.. we stayed in finland helping them push the red army back!
jayti83 2 years ago
However, You must consider to studdy the dutch situation after 2 days in the german attack. You will see that the germans where grind to a hold around fortress holland. You will see that it all that been attiefed without any help ( accept of some french who ren away in zeeland ). You will see that in hitlers frustration he decides to carpet bomb Rotterdam. You will see that in a few days new and better equipment and supplys from england where rolling in.572 planes of luftwaffe where shot down.
DutchPetriot 2 years ago
Did you know the story of the marines at rotterdam? only a few marines hold the bridges over the maas agains a brigade of paratroopers? and that, when the netherlands surrenderd and they saw who had made sure that they did not had succeed, the paratroopers soluded the few dutch marines out of respect? and that those marines mostly only had been trained for 3 months and wherent quallified marines?? The paratroopers gave them the name Black Devils ( because of there coats ).
DutchPetriot 2 years ago
Holland do have a great military.. Far better than the Norwegian when it comes to the navy..
Dutch SpecOps are quite awesum as well.. Been at Texel ;)
Besides Norway and Holland got a good relationship both in air and at sea..
Take care, Norwegian
UltimaSRi 2 years ago
take a look at the zeven provincien class for example... the dutch have some of the greatest admirals of mankind in history... and who are those formost experts you were talking about?
DutchPetriot 3 years ago
welke zeeslag heeft nederland de afgelopen tien jaar dan gewonnen???
difoek 2 years ago
wat maakt dat nou uit
DutchPetriot 2 years ago
waaruit kan ik kiezen?
Cornampoo 2 years ago
This was a very interesting and original documentary. Can you upload the whole series?
Cool2BCeltic 4 years ago 5