Where are you getting you're information!? Humans have been giving birth for millions of years! Of course there are complications in certain cases but you need to look at the facts!
You need to see the film "The Business of Being Born." That will help explain some facts to you about why there was an increase in the deaths you speak of.
The percent of a low risk woman needing transfer is about 2 to 3 percent and most times it is because a woman decides to get the pain meds, not because she is in any real danger-the transfer for those is even more rare and low-these stats come from a non-biased site by the way. =) Midwives these days have equipment and the know-how on how to handle a number of complications, even needing to help a mother who may get heavy bleeding afterwards or a baby who may need oxygen, ETC.
Your statements here just are not true...it's sad that you think of it as being so dangerous. Do I think women need trained care on hand, YES and a CNM is well prepared for this. Plus have you had a natural birth outside of a hospital? If not than honestly you do not know what you are talking about, just because you heard a few stories or saw a friend nearly die that does not dismiss the hundreds of other stories that went well. =)
Oh yes, I totally agree...there needs to be respect for both enviroments and thank God for both. And yes that is the key right there...knowing when and if to transfer, I agree...Dr's AND Midwives both safe lives, yes.=)
I possibly agree. I *am* having trouble with the midwife "saving lives" if what you mean is midwives preventing fatalities that might occur in hospitals - because some think that I think.
I *do* agree that midwives save lives in the sense that just plainly unsupervised natural births are dangerous.
I guess the problem I have is that people seem to think that birth should be "natural". They need to realize there is a risk, and that midwives and hospitals are BOTH there to help and save.
I'm all for keeping home birth and midwifery legal, but I have a question...
I have a granddaughter and a great neice. Both delivered by C-section.
My grandaughter was coming out face first so they said they HAD to do the c-section. When she was born her face was swollen from pushing against the birth canal. My nieces daughter had a blood infection and spent 5 days in NCIU. (Not sure why the C-section with her) What would have happened if they were born at home?
The same question could be posed about the surgical birth. What would have happened if your daughter began to bleed uncontrollably from the surgery? Would your granddaughter be left without a mother? Or would your daughter have needed an emergency hysterectomy eliminating her ability to conceive any more grandchildren?
Midwives know what's normal and what needs medical intervention. Usually far before an emergency comes up.
Not really an answer to my question... but thanks.
I hate hospitals,(my brother in law died from an infection he got in one) but I wonder what would have happened if they didn't catch that blood infection. Or how would a midwife deal with a baby stuck in the birth canal...
At the time I was hoping that they could turn the baby so she could come out the right way.
I guess I was looking for a more specific answer as to how situations like this would be handled by a midwife.
I thought I asked very revelant questions and just to be told "Midwives know what's normal and what needs medical intervention" was not a good enough answer for me. I'm glad that my granddaughter and great niece were born in hospitals where they could get the medical attention that saved their lives!
THANK YOU! Finally a sensible person. I am absolutely sick and tired of midwives telling ME that I'm part of some sort of hysteria and crap like that.
It is an absolute complete bona fide fact that birthing is dangerous, and that the hospital is the only place where certain complications can be dealt with.
You are right there are certain complications that can only be taken care of in a hospital, such as C-sections, but as for your statement that birthing is dangerous-for low risk, healthy women with healthy babies it is actually very natural and safe. =)
I'm in favor of midwifery, but I'm a little worried about the lack of oversight. Lots of people get jobs as midwives with no real credentials, and this causes undue risk for the mother and the baby.
Undue risk for mother and baby is more result of the parents making choices based on TV drama and fear of pain. Anyone hiring a professional to perform a service should inquire about credentials and references. Legal midwives HAVE credentials; CPM. Look it up!
This is ridiculous! I should be able to birth at home if I want to! WHat is GOING on here? I am NOT happy! My fourth baby was born at home with a lay midwife and a doula anf it was BY FAR the best birth I EVER, EVER, HAD! No inductions, not drugs, not annoying people bothering my saying let's hook you up and monitor you and freak you out all the time! KEEP MIDSIFERY LEGAL!
I'm giving birth at home :-)
PeaceLoveEternity 3 years ago
rriigghht. Guess what happens. When midwifes can't handle it because of complications, they move their patient to a hospital.
C sections can be life saving.
Interventions are necessary in many cases.
Birthing is just DANGEROUS no matter what.
Horror stories ha? rriigghhtt. How about a midwife horror story...
a1mint 3 years ago
Where are you getting you're information!? Humans have been giving birth for millions of years! Of course there are complications in certain cases but you need to look at the facts!
celsaf89 3 years ago
Humans have been dying during birth on many occasions, especially in the later part of those millions of years.
It seems that you are the one that needs to learn about the facts!
a1mint 3 years ago
Yes for a lack of knowledge about pregnancy and labor which midwives today have! Today we know so much about it. Woman should have the choice!
celsaf89 3 years ago
Risky business when you get complications outside of a hospital. People don't realize how dangerous it can be. I've watched someone almost die once.
a1mint 3 years ago
You need to see the film "The Business of Being Born." That will help explain some facts to you about why there was an increase in the deaths you speak of.
Happyone4 2 years ago
The percent of a low risk woman needing transfer is about 2 to 3 percent and most times it is because a woman decides to get the pain meds, not because she is in any real danger-the transfer for those is even more rare and low-these stats come from a non-biased site by the way. =) Midwives these days have equipment and the know-how on how to handle a number of complications, even needing to help a mother who may get heavy bleeding afterwards or a baby who may need oxygen, ETC.
Happyone4 2 years ago
The hospital is the right setting for a birth. Birthing in general is DANGEROUS. This is not something to joke or mess with.
Complications like postpartum bleeding are REAL. Humans just often can NOT give birth safely outside of a hospital.
a1mint 3 years ago
Your statements here just are not true...it's sad that you think of it as being so dangerous. Do I think women need trained care on hand, YES and a CNM is well prepared for this. Plus have you had a natural birth outside of a hospital? If not than honestly you do not know what you are talking about, just because you heard a few stories or saw a friend nearly die that does not dismiss the hundreds of other stories that went well. =)
Happyone4 2 years ago
I've witnessed a home birth that was transferred to the hospital because of not enough quick enough dilation of the cervix.
Once the baby was delivered there was a near fatal bleeding problem which was stopped with a special procedure - in the surgery room, with surgeons.
In the olden days people used to die from natural birth.
How...ever... I have changed my mind somewhat.
So long as midwives and people *respect* hospitals and know when to transfer. Hospitals save lives, which is awesome!
a1mint 2 years ago
Oh yes, I totally agree...there needs to be respect for both enviroments and thank God for both. And yes that is the key right there...knowing when and if to transfer, I agree...Dr's AND Midwives both safe lives, yes.=)
Happyone4 2 years ago
I possibly agree. I *am* having trouble with the midwife "saving lives" if what you mean is midwives preventing fatalities that might occur in hospitals - because some think that I think.
I *do* agree that midwives save lives in the sense that just plainly unsupervised natural births are dangerous.
I guess the problem I have is that people seem to think that birth should be "natural". They need to realize there is a risk, and that midwives and hospitals are BOTH there to help and save.
a1mint 2 years ago
I'm all for keeping home birth and midwifery legal, but I have a question...
I have a granddaughter and a great neice. Both delivered by C-section.
My grandaughter was coming out face first so they said they HAD to do the c-section. When she was born her face was swollen from pushing against the birth canal. My nieces daughter had a blood infection and spent 5 days in NCIU. (Not sure why the C-section with her) What would have happened if they were born at home?
zizizzi 3 years ago
The same question could be posed about the surgical birth. What would have happened if your daughter began to bleed uncontrollably from the surgery? Would your granddaughter be left without a mother? Or would your daughter have needed an emergency hysterectomy eliminating her ability to conceive any more grandchildren?
Midwives know what's normal and what needs medical intervention. Usually far before an emergency comes up.
crosscreekbooks 3 years ago
Not really an answer to my question... but thanks.
I hate hospitals,(my brother in law died from an infection he got in one) but I wonder what would have happened if they didn't catch that blood infection. Or how would a midwife deal with a baby stuck in the birth canal...
At the time I was hoping that they could turn the baby so she could come out the right way.
I guess I was looking for a more specific answer as to how situations like this would be handled by a midwife.
zizizzi 3 years ago
They can't answer that with a straight face.
I've tried to start an argument with another one just now, and they immediately erased my messages and blocked any further input from me.
I'm learning quickly and midwifes aren't at the same level as the people at the hospital.
a1mint 3 years ago
Yeah, I was dissapointed by this answer.
I thought I asked very revelant questions and just to be told "Midwives know what's normal and what needs medical intervention" was not a good enough answer for me. I'm glad that my granddaughter and great niece were born in hospitals where they could get the medical attention that saved their lives!
zizizzi 3 years ago
THANK YOU! Finally a sensible person. I am absolutely sick and tired of midwives telling ME that I'm part of some sort of hysteria and crap like that.
It is an absolute complete bona fide fact that birthing is dangerous, and that the hospital is the only place where certain complications can be dealt with.
a1mint 3 years ago
You are right there are certain complications that can only be taken care of in a hospital, such as C-sections, but as for your statement that birthing is dangerous-for low risk, healthy women with healthy babies it is actually very natural and safe. =)
Happyone4 2 years ago
I'm in favor of midwifery, but I'm a little worried about the lack of oversight. Lots of people get jobs as midwives with no real credentials, and this causes undue risk for the mother and the baby.
uberjim83 3 years ago
Undue risk for mother and baby is more result of the parents making choices based on TV drama and fear of pain. Anyone hiring a professional to perform a service should inquire about credentials and references. Legal midwives HAVE credentials; CPM. Look it up!
crosscreekbooks 3 years ago
Well, that's ok then.
uberjim83 3 years ago
Hospitals want your money, so more tests, more drugs, more specialists.
ddreamax 3 years ago
Yeah, midwifes don't want it! That's why they're all volunteers.
uberjim83 3 years ago
Listen up Ladies:
Get with your Midwife
Learn All you can from her
Read Anne Frye and Ina May Gaskin
Start Catching Babies
Trust Birth
crosscreekbooks 4 years ago 2
Read Immaculate Deception, and Open Season, and Birth As an American Right of Passage, and Michel Odent, too.
givebirthathome 3 years ago
This is ridiculous! I should be able to birth at home if I want to! WHat is GOING on here? I am NOT happy! My fourth baby was born at home with a lay midwife and a doula anf it was BY FAR the best birth I EVER, EVER, HAD! No inductions, not drugs, not annoying people bothering my saying let's hook you up and monitor you and freak you out all the time! KEEP MIDSIFERY LEGAL!
mandy2qt 4 years ago 3