We often hear the claim that our nation is a democracy. That wasn't the vision of the founders. They saw democracy as another form of tyranny. If we've become a democracy, I guarantee you that the founders would be deeply disappointed by our betrayal of their vision. The founders intended, and laid out the ground rules, for our nation to be a republic.
notice how all the ones upset with.....THE REGULATORS...were black.....hmmmmm
oh wait...so is frank rains.....oh yeah obama to....hmmmmm
barney frank is not......he is just pissed off cause he is gay and ugly
even after this frank rains went on to recieve 98mil from fannie in 5yrs and now is advisor to pres obama...on guess what...financing and housing....hmmmmm
something going on here,..naaa we will just get the same ones here to fix it...
lots of people beat up on fox news but unless you look at c-span archives or watch c-span on this day ..........no one would ever see it....here is the proof....and franklin raines clearing 90+mil in 5yrs and now an advisor to prez. obama on these kind of issue
frank gave obama 126,000 for his camp and frank is black..
there will nothing ever come of all this it will be sank deep
i'm glad McCAIN did not get elected! let the liberal strangle them selves in the next 4 years, that way they will never get elected again! they already know there are doomed, so trust mne the voting scams are being put in place now!
I find it interesting that you both find anyone who opposes democrats to be neocons/republicans. did you ever stop to think its possible that I don't support either party because both parties don't care about the wellfare about america anymore, they only care about consolidating their power in this country.
It's also interesting to note that the justifications franks made then means the republicans can't be held responsible really for any legislation obama can't pass such as health care reform because the democrats control both houses and the executive branch.
If somebody made a video of astronauts in space and then used it to claim that gravity doesn't exist, even the neocons who think this video proves something would say the anti-gravity video left out important facts. This video leaves out the history of the CRA and Phil Gramm's 1999 legislation that allowed banks and companies like AIG to do the things that caused the meltdown. And it ignores every vote McCain cast for deregulation. Leaving out important facts does not prove anything.
Go ahead and educate yourself and then say with a straight face this video is accurate and impartial and gives all the facts. I don't suffer fools either, especially those who remain willfully ignorant.
The fact is both parties have to share the blame. But neither wants to be honest and come clean. However some warned against this unfortunately noone listened. This is not about Democrats or GOP this is about America. The fact is both parties are corporate patsies.
The video is accurate, doesn't give all the facts just like how your videos don't give all the facts but are accurate. Just accept the fact that this mess is equally caused by democrats as it is republicans.
Not only does the video point fingers at the ones that precipitated this problem, Obama shows his true misunderstanding of the problem by blaming it all on Bush.
Until the Bush haters open their eyes and realize that politicians of all flavors are either incredibly stupid or incredibly corrupt, we will be destined to be victimized by these criminals again and again.
Only those that feed for free at the public trough are willing to look the other way, for the benefit of their own selfishness.
You can't tell in what context all of these soundbites are being used. Furthermore Fannie and Freddie are but two of the hundreds of banks who made these outrageously bad loans. What is the excuse for all of them? Nice try, neocon.
Unless you watched these CSPAN broadcasts in their entirety then you can't know how these clips were cherrypicked. A GOP-controlled Congress pushed thru a Phil Gramm (R-Texas) bill that made it possible for banks to do all these things. So, no, the vid doesn't hammer home the "root cause" - ask John "The Deregulator" McCain about that.
Based on the facts in this very powerful video, it is evident that the Dems are to blame. There is no mention of John McCain in this video. There is no mention of Phil Graham in this video.
Apologists like yourself are destined to be victimized again unless we all get together and FIX this problem.
This very poignant video shows how the Black Caucus used Fannie / Freddie as their own very personal, very chunky piggy bank.
Facts don't lie. Realize the truth. Keep an open mind.
"Based on the facts in this very powerful video --"
Thank you for making my point. Facts can be made to lie if you don't include ALL of them. Leaving out the crucial points about Gramm's deregulatory legislation (and the way it enabled this meltdown to happen) proves this video is neocon propaganda. Realize the truth. Quit drinking the GOP Koolaid.
That freddie and fannie were basically the source and had the largest impact out of all of the banks and recieved the largest bailouts out of all of the banks?
The fast that you just called Fannie and Freddie "banks" shows you have no idea what the hell you're talking about and are merely parroting neocon talking points. The video doesn't show that in 2005 Barney Frank co-wrote a bill with Repub. Mike Oxley to increase regulation but the GOP killed it. The GOP was the majority party and had all the power from 1996-2006, which was when this whole mess was cooked up. Now go educate yourself with the facts: tinyurl(.)com/meltdown-facts
which is one to two years after the republicans tried to pass legislation to get regulation on them, the same barney frank who was against that regulation. I never called them banks, I meant that out of all the banks that people are talking about they were pretty much the source of the banks troubles and the had the largets bailout.
By your own definition of what you call accurate, impartial your own source is not any of those so how can I educate myself on facts?
You "never" called them banks? Five hours ago you did. If you can't even tell the truth about what you said then there is nothing to talk about. BTW, I verified all of the information in that article via other sources before I started using it to refute neocons like you. You could try doing the same, but you have no interest in truth.
Yes I realized that I called them banks that is why I put this in here " meant that out of all the banks that people are talking about they were pretty much the source of the banks troubles and the had the largets bailout."
Meaning I didn't mean to call them banks, but were the source of a lot of banks troubles and companies.
Oh so I should just take your word that you verified the information in that article before you started using it? care to share those sources you used to verify?
You can start with the links I provided in the comments below. You can also do your own research on H.R. 1461 [109th]: Federal Housing Finance Reform Act of 2005 and how there was bipartisan support until the GOP leadership killed it. The bottom line is, Congress was a rubber stamp for Bush from 2001 until the end of 2006. They had majorities in both houses.
P.S. If the Democrats were rubberstamping everything Obama did, your irrelevant argument might have some merit, but it doesn't.
Thanks for adding to the discussion, john777316. However, you're going to need to post some links to convince Noliving, who doesn't believe in anything he doesn't see on FOX "News" or on some neocon youtube channel.
And dailyKOS, msnbc, bbc, al jazeera, cnn are "news"? I would of thought you would be happy that I need links to be convinced, that I wasn't just someone who blindely trusts what they are told.
Your links really have only to do with john mccain really and he is only one republican. Actully the argument you call irrelevant actually does have merit even if the democrats don't rubberstamp everything. Since the democrats have the majority of the houses it really doesn't matter if the republican oppose someting. Historically the president has a harder time passing his own agenda when the house is controlled by the same party.
What evidence do you have that the GOP leadership definately killed H.R 1461[109th]? All we really know is that it made to house passed and then went a committe where it stayed.
Obama, looking straight into the eyes of America and lying. Don't want a pres. who will not even acknowledge that his party has some blame in this mess in the face of all the evidence!
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We often hear the claim that our nation is a democracy. That wasn't the vision of the founders. They saw democracy as another form of tyranny. If we've become a democracy, I guarantee you that the founders would be deeply disappointed by our betrayal of their vision. The founders intended, and laid out the ground rules, for our nation to be a republic.
tatoott1009 8 months ago
notice how all the ones upset with.....THE REGULATORS...were black.....hmmmmm
oh wait...so is frank rains.....oh yeah obama to....hmmmmm
barney frank is not......he is just pissed off cause he is gay and ugly
even after this frank rains went on to recieve 98mil from fannie in 5yrs and now is advisor to pres obama...on guess what...financing and housing....hmmmmm
something going on here,..naaa we will just get the same ones here to fix it...
damoparman 1 year ago 3
lots of people beat up on fox news but unless you look at c-span archives or watch c-span on this day ..........no one would ever see it....here is the proof....and franklin raines clearing 90+mil in 5yrs and now an advisor to prez. obama on these kind of issue
frank gave obama 126,000 for his camp and frank is black..
there will nothing ever come of all this it will be sank deep
damoparman 1 year ago
MAXINE WATERS WHAT A JOKE!!! Why didn't McCAIN USE THESE DURING THE ELECTION
THEMOJOMANsince1959 2 years ago
lying democratic bastards
Deke1 2 years ago
i'm glad McCAIN did not get elected! let the liberal strangle them selves in the next 4 years, that way they will never get elected again! they already know there are doomed, so trust mne the voting scams are being put in place now!
TheHabit00 2 years ago
@TheHabit00 RIGHT ON This video should be played over and over on TV.
THEMOJOMANsince1959 2 years ago
@TheHabit00 "if you are black and vote democrat you are not only a chump but a traitor to your race." malcolm x
cassidy99ful 8 months ago
And these are the same people blaming BUSH for the economy tanking. Incredible. Keep getting the truth out there, folks.
BoyGenteel 2 years ago
I find it interesting that you both find anyone who opposes democrats to be neocons/republicans. did you ever stop to think its possible that I don't support either party because both parties don't care about the wellfare about america anymore, they only care about consolidating their power in this country.
Noliving 2 years ago
It's also interesting to note that the justifications franks made then means the republicans can't be held responsible really for any legislation obama can't pass such as health care reform because the democrats control both houses and the executive branch.
Noliving 2 years ago
If somebody made a video of astronauts in space and then used it to claim that gravity doesn't exist, even the neocons who think this video proves something would say the anti-gravity video left out important facts. This video leaves out the history of the CRA and Phil Gramm's 1999 legislation that allowed banks and companies like AIG to do the things that caused the meltdown. And it ignores every vote McCain cast for deregulation. Leaving out important facts does not prove anything.
christineglamazon 3 years ago
Educate yourself. I suffer fools badly.
LetonBrain 3 years ago
You're the on who needs the education:
wikipedia(.)org/wiki/Gramm-Leach-Bliley_Act
youtube(.)com/watch?v=BQVd_FdRw6Q
youtube(.)com/watch?v=duJr1LZsxjg
Go ahead and educate yourself and then say with a straight face this video is accurate and impartial and gives all the facts. I don't suffer fools either, especially those who remain willfully ignorant.
christineglamazon 3 years ago
The fact is both parties have to share the blame. But neither wants to be honest and come clean. However some warned against this unfortunately noone listened. This is not about Democrats or GOP this is about America. The fact is both parties are corporate patsies.
fishbuc11 3 years ago 2
The video is accurate, doesn't give all the facts just like how your videos don't give all the facts but are accurate. Just accept the fact that this mess is equally caused by democrats as it is republicans.
Noliving 2 years ago
And that execuses the fact that democrats were the ones who were against the regulation that the republicans were supporting in 2003-2004?
Noliving 2 years ago
Not only does the video point fingers at the ones that precipitated this problem, Obama shows his true misunderstanding of the problem by blaming it all on Bush.
Until the Bush haters open their eyes and realize that politicians of all flavors are either incredibly stupid or incredibly corrupt, we will be destined to be victimized by these criminals again and again.
Only those that feed for free at the public trough are willing to look the other way, for the benefit of their own selfishness.
LetonBrain 3 years ago
You can't tell in what context all of these soundbites are being used. Furthermore Fannie and Freddie are but two of the hundreds of banks who made these outrageously bad loans. What is the excuse for all of them? Nice try, neocon.
christineglamazon 3 years ago
Out of context??? Soundbites??? R U kidding me???
Yeah, Fannie and Freddie are but two of many banks. THEY STARTED THIS WHOLE MESS. AND, we bailed them out to the tune of $200B.
TWO HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS!!!!!
Remember that little soundbite?
Dont be stupid and try to make it a Partisan issue. Its not. There's enough corruption in both parties.
I just LOVE this video though. It really hammers the root cause of the problem home.
LetonBrain 3 years ago
Unless you watched these CSPAN broadcasts in their entirety then you can't know how these clips were cherrypicked. A GOP-controlled Congress pushed thru a Phil Gramm (R-Texas) bill that made it possible for banks to do all these things. So, no, the vid doesn't hammer home the "root cause" - ask John "The Deregulator" McCain about that.
christineglamazon 3 years ago
Based on the facts in this very powerful video, it is evident that the Dems are to blame. There is no mention of John McCain in this video. There is no mention of Phil Graham in this video.
Apologists like yourself are destined to be victimized again unless we all get together and FIX this problem.
This very poignant video shows how the Black Caucus used Fannie / Freddie as their own very personal, very chunky piggy bank.
Facts don't lie. Realize the truth. Keep an open mind.
LetonBrain 3 years ago
"Based on the facts in this very powerful video --"
Thank you for making my point. Facts can be made to lie if you don't include ALL of them. Leaving out the crucial points about Gramm's deregulatory legislation (and the way it enabled this meltdown to happen) proves this video is neocon propaganda. Realize the truth. Quit drinking the GOP Koolaid.
christineglamazon 3 years ago
That freddie and fannie were basically the source and had the largest impact out of all of the banks and recieved the largest bailouts out of all of the banks?
Noliving 2 years ago
The fast that you just called Fannie and Freddie "banks" shows you have no idea what the hell you're talking about and are merely parroting neocon talking points. The video doesn't show that in 2005 Barney Frank co-wrote a bill with Repub. Mike Oxley to increase regulation but the GOP killed it. The GOP was the majority party and had all the power from 1996-2006, which was when this whole mess was cooked up. Now go educate yourself with the facts: tinyurl(.)com/meltdown-facts
christineglamazon 2 years ago
which is one to two years after the republicans tried to pass legislation to get regulation on them, the same barney frank who was against that regulation. I never called them banks, I meant that out of all the banks that people are talking about they were pretty much the source of the banks troubles and the had the largets bailout.
By your own definition of what you call accurate, impartial your own source is not any of those so how can I educate myself on facts?
Noliving 2 years ago
You "never" called them banks? Five hours ago you did. If you can't even tell the truth about what you said then there is nothing to talk about. BTW, I verified all of the information in that article via other sources before I started using it to refute neocons like you. You could try doing the same, but you have no interest in truth.
christineglamazon 2 years ago
Yes I realized that I called them banks that is why I put this in here " meant that out of all the banks that people are talking about they were pretty much the source of the banks troubles and the had the largets bailout."
Meaning I didn't mean to call them banks, but were the source of a lot of banks troubles and companies.
Oh so I should just take your word that you verified the information in that article before you started using it? care to share those sources you used to verify?
Noliving 2 years ago
You can start with the links I provided in the comments below. You can also do your own research on H.R. 1461 [109th]: Federal Housing Finance Reform Act of 2005 and how there was bipartisan support until the GOP leadership killed it. The bottom line is, Congress was a rubber stamp for Bush from 2001 until the end of 2006. They had majorities in both houses.
P.S. If the Democrats were rubberstamping everything Obama did, your irrelevant argument might have some merit, but it doesn't.
christineglamazon 2 years ago
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john777316 2 years ago
Thanks for adding to the discussion, john777316. However, you're going to need to post some links to convince Noliving, who doesn't believe in anything he doesn't see on FOX "News" or on some neocon youtube channel.
christineglamazon 2 years ago
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john777316 2 years ago
And dailyKOS, msnbc, bbc, al jazeera, cnn are "news"? I would of thought you would be happy that I need links to be convinced, that I wasn't just someone who blindely trusts what they are told.
Noliving 2 years ago
So bush was wrong then in april of 2001 all the way till 2004 when warning about the problems we are facing today?
Noliving 2 years ago
@Noliving WHEN ARE THESE DIPSH*TS GOING TO JAIL? This should be played OVER&OVER on some cable channel.
THEMOJOMANsince1959 2 years ago
Your links really have only to do with john mccain really and he is only one republican. Actully the argument you call irrelevant actually does have merit even if the democrats don't rubberstamp everything. Since the democrats have the majority of the houses it really doesn't matter if the republican oppose someting. Historically the president has a harder time passing his own agenda when the house is controlled by the same party.
Noliving 2 years ago
What evidence do you have that the GOP leadership definately killed H.R 1461[109th]? All we really know is that it made to house passed and then went a committe where it stayed.
Noliving 2 years ago
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john777316 2 years ago
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john777316 2 years ago
Don't ask me, ask chrstine she is the one making the claim.
Noliving 2 years ago
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john777316 2 years ago
HA! Funny not too many comments on here! lol Guess the obama supporters put their hands over their ears and ran away!
blueaccord19 3 years ago
Obama, looking straight into the eyes of America and lying. Don't want a pres. who will not even acknowledge that his party has some blame in this mess in the face of all the evidence!
spastikmunky 3 years ago 7
You won't see any of this on the news.
Rebeccaanne3 3 years ago 4
Wow. Who would have guessed that it was the Dems all along?
LetonBrain 3 years ago 2