@FrancisJoa hes just talking about how the f-35 has short wings this is the f-35C plus the B needs the short wings to do VTOL and STVOL look at the harrier.
@Antifaith29 Your right, the Harrier is a safe reliable aircraft for long duration flights at sea. I'm sure it's crash record would reflect this. I don't mind your comment but why try to be a smart mouth when arguing against an extremely logical point?
@Antifaith29 Harriers are not stealth. Or supersonic. Or easy to fly. Or lower maintenance due to being new.
Guys, old planes are worn out. Just like your car, you have to get a new one sooner or later, and you don't buy the same thing you just had do you? If that were not true, then we would all be driving our grandparents model T.
@weirdguy564 Interestingly enough, the F35 isnt classified as stealth anymore either. I do agree with your points however, something new is definatley need something new.
For a sorce on the stealth thing i used wiki so its not 100% reliable but from what ive read they downgraded from very low observable to low observable, a radar cross section from a marble to a beachball. Still low observ yes but no more than say the Rafale.
The F-35 is a nice looking bird. The Boeing X-32 cockpit visibility seems to much better than the F-35. Can any pilots out there comment on this please. Does cockpit visibility make a big difference?
No matter how many billions of our tax money congress throws at this program, the F-35 will never be able to compete with the latest Russian and Chinese fighters. That is the result of 40 years of feel-good education.
@safetychoice Nah West is ahead. Russians and Chinese fighters don't have much stealth and they have bad RADAR. It will take another 30+ years to come near us. We are designing sixth generation fighters
@ThePaddy3107 currently West constitute more than 55% of world economy. Govt. spends much money on welfare. UK and France are at #3&4 on top military spending. China is second. Russia is 5th. There are serious mismanagement but during wartime we have industrial capability. China has no major allies its all alone.
@BRU11ROAD That is actually a great addition to a naval fleet but to be a front line fighter going up against T-50's and SU-35's the outlook is grim. The only aircraft able to dominate those two fighters is the F-22.
@knifemakejake why do you only aprove of the only one wot cant do its job it cant even land on carriers because thay put the hook in the wrong place and now its gona have to get redesigned even canceld if it cost to much
@wiganerrmc Its not going to get cancelled. A lot of nations are putting up money for its continuing development and even the Marines are refusing to take F-18's because they want this aircraft.
@theARMAProductions - Those are a bunch of misconceptions. All variants of the F-35 use the Pratt & Whitney F135 engine. GE has continued to develop the F136 on its own dime, despite absolute noninterest on the part of Congress. The F-35Charlie has greater wingspan for a higher fuel fraction, to meet the Navy's range requirements.
@CjDaddyX F35A is conventional takeoff. F35B is vertical takeoff/landing and short takeoff. F35C is carrier based model. F35B can do vertical takeoffs but it can't withstand as much stress compared to the F35A/F35C model.
Still has only one engine. Famous quip from Eagle drivers and Hornet drivers, "One pilot, One bomb, One engine... One way..." In the first Gulf War we lost Harriers to SAMs, but not a single Hornet. You take one near the fuselage, down it goes, not to mention just compressor blade problems for the AV-8. Having two engines increases survivability.
@sharkfood06 I dunno why you guys would still quote that "not a single Hornet lost in GW I to SAMs" crap. Where have you been since 2003? In OIF I we lost three twin-engine birds due to SAM hits. 1 Tornado GR.4A and 1 F/A-18C were fratricides from US PAC-3s in Mar/Apr. An Iraqi Roland downed 1 A-10A also in Apr.
Only then-Capt Campbell (whom I've met) managed to limp her critically-damaged A-10 back after a MANPADs hit while on low CAS for the 1st ID.
I think the F35s are very advanced and will be the war horse of the future carriers.
However, the F35 is seriously challenged by the J20 stealth fighter that China is developing. The J20 is larger than the F22 and has greater range than the F22 given her size. The J20 is designed to hit carriers from long range and this is going to undermine the F35 being a smaller plane with less payload.
@ConstantineJoseph With all the crash test videos of chinese made cars and chinese fighter jets that were made aren't proven effective in combat. They come up with crappy stuff. And not to mention that chinese stealth technology is still in its infancy, i'm pretty sure that they would push the production of the J-20 and by that time, the US could may have already come up with something to counter this threat. Although china may catch up with the technology needed as long they steal information.
The US may already have something up their sleeves. Perhaps an upgrade of the F35 system.
As the main bulk of aircraft the Chinese air force will face is by carrier borne aircraft. The F35C, not the F22 will be the main threat to the J20. Hence the J20 has already challenged the F35 program as the J20 is signifiantly larger than the F35 and can carry a much bigger payload. The tech is unknown but with the billions spent on F35, the J20 has cast doubts on the F35 ability
@ConstantineJoseph Thats why the Navy is not using the F35 as its air superiority fighter. Believe it or not F-18's will still fly that mission even with the F35 in service, The U.S is looking at Boeing's F/A-XX for that role.
@Darkmanskin The F-35C does indeed require a runway. Of the three variants, only the F-35B can depart and land vertically. All three variants are quite different animals to each other.
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@ApacheCobra Couldn't tell about the cat, but no, it does not. The F-16 and the F/A-18 both have better maintenance schedules, and the F/A-18 can do high AoA maneuvers.
@Wellwellwellwell1 It has been made public information that the F-35 will reach 55 degrees AoA trimmed, with an absolute limit even further beyond 55 degrees. Maintenance is a tough aspect to comment on, being that the F/A-18 and F-16 are at the end of their days and the F-35 is still at least 5 years from IOC, though Lockheed seems happy to tout how maintenance-friendly the F-35 will be.
@ApacheCobra The reason I bring up maintenance is that the stealth skin will be a maintenance nightmare, just like the F-22. And the AoA is low for an all-aspect fighter of the future. It can't even use the VTOL mid-flight to improve nose-down characteristics, allowing for flips. If it could, it would be so much cooler, though that maneuver would be an altitude killer. In any case, we'll see how it performs in combat compared to the Falcon and the Hornet. We're going off of what Lockheed says.
With the F-35 being so cost effective why having congress gone with this instead of the F-22 Raptor? This air craft is going to be used by the Navy, Air Force & Marine Corps.
@Talyn81 the F-35 is a multirole fighter and the F-22 is for air superiority that means the F-22 is faster more manuverable and a much better climber among other things
@4V14T10N What you see in this video is a steam catapult. Some aircraft platforms have been tested with EMALS, but the F-35 is not one of those platforms.
@ThePhysicist47 how do you know it's a steam cat? i'm no expert, but in every navy video i've seen you can see the steam rising from the cats just before, during, and after launch.
@oldfrend I quote the official NAVAIR press release: "The F-35C completed its first steam catapult launch July 27 marking another milestone toward initial ship trials in 2013." The release goes on to say that this was a TC-13 Mod 2 steam catapult, representative of what's currently in the fleet. As for the steam you don't see, well, this catapult was in perfect working order, not in heavy use like what you'd see on a carrier. Thus, no steam leaks.
@4V14T10N ...It's certainly could be electromagnetic, as they do have that at the base and have been using it for some time. Also, there was no steam visible, though that may not mean anything:
@packr72 The other control surfaces are bigger too, so as to increase handling and maneuverability, particularly at slow speeds. Navy aircraft such as the F/A-18 are typically extremely maneuverable at low speeds.
I think the F-35c looks really cool BUT also think that the F-35 is kind of a failure...If I where the president of any country I would refuse to buy it,would feel safer with F-15s and F-16s,to be honest if I can reach my dream to become a fighter pilot,I would feel kind of unsafe facing any other aircraft in close combat...just saying...no power no agility and in close combat stealth means nothign,so I would think about it.
@jorgemdllin Who says the F-35 has no power or agility? Its single engine is more powerful than the two in an F-18, and LM has said the F-35 will be able to perform at the same level as and F-16 and 18, which is very impressive. Being stealthy only enhances its ability to survive, and with today's high off-boresight weapons like the Aim 9X makes it very lethal.
@asusucks well man I understand your point,I think what I said because of what a lot of pilots said,LM will say the F-35 is the best in the world,after all they have to sell it,severl air forces are having second toughts not only for the increased cost but also for what I said,did you know that the astralian air force made a simulation(this beauty have never been probe in real combat)where they lost against Sukhoi Planes from Russia and China planes?did you know that the guy on charge was...
@jorgemdllin So far LM has been true to its word with the F22. The USAF has said that in regards to the F-22 it has either exceeded or met all expectations so there's no reason to doubt their comments on the JSF.
You're referring to the RAND report, which was later found to be bogus. Rand Corp even came out and issued a denial that they never made statements that assessed the F-35's performance. Here's the link to their press release: rand. org/news/press/2008/09/25. html
You're basing your comments on rumors of the F-22 posted by the Washington Post, which were for the most part shown to be false or exagerations. The avionics on the F-35 will far surpass that of any Su or Mig, or Chinese a/c. It's stealth is greater than the PAK-FA, and the J-20 by large margins. You have no idea about maintenance bc it has not entered service.
@asusucks well you are right man,is hard to find out wich ine is accurate and wich one isnt,so let thing that part of the info as"will see"but then the interviews with some developers and specialist is also fake?and the reason of the countries having second thoughts about the cost in relation with the performance?if it keeps this way will be canceled just like the raptor,despite the raptor is a real fighter,not like the F-35 that a lot of the military have doubts about it,but well, Will see..
@jorgemdllin I think the cost issue is more due to the current state of the world's economy than the F-35's performance, but like you said , we'll have to wait and see....
@asusucks fired because of the inefficiency on the program progress?and all that without taking on board the high cost per plane and for maintanance,and it cost less hour trining,you know that with less training the level goes down,and Im pretty sure a Pilot in the F-15 or in the Su30 well trained would shot down the F-35 any time,but well is just my opinion,you look deeper in the F-35 reviwes and you will see what I say.
It's a damn shame the entire F-35 fleet is grounded because the power pack, life support, and emergency backup systems all have a tendency to fail at the same time.
@cmdrnmartin That's what testing is all about! Some people here just dont seem to understand that fighter aircraft are at the absolute cutting edge of military technology. In the testing phase(and beyond) there will be problems and there will be delays and there will be deaths. These aren't simple baby cribs! This is how it is and some of you people, and the government, need to pay more attention to history. Early F-16's were extremely deadly for pilots. Remember?
@EJ25RUN Bullshit. There are cases where your Su-35 cannot even get sales over other legacy aircraft, isn't steatlh, and its avionics suck compared to the JSF. Go away troll.
@asusucks there are Nato related reasons why sales don't come. But i don't see how you consider a person a troll when they prefer twin engine jets over single engine ones. I am a pilot in real life. (single engine land + instrument) but if ever offered, I'd take an F15 over the 35.
@EJ25RUN good question why don't you ask the JSF committee on why they chose single engine. I remember that Lockheed's rival Boeing X-32 is also a single jet engine.
@EJ25RUN As a pilot I also agree with you, but then again there are roles the F35 can perform that the F15 can't. As an aicraft "per se" yes, the F15 is one hell of a machine, probably one of the best aircraft ever built. I'd say single engines only advantage over twins is maintance costs, in vector thrust aircraft there could be other advantages, but then again, I'm not an expert :)
@EJ25RUN Even Brazil, which is not part of NATO, rejected the Su-35. Even if you're a pilot, that does not make you an expert. So far, the test pilots of the F-35 have been very impressed, and some of those have flight hours in the Eagle, so I would take their word b4 someone's on YT. People need to give the F-35 a chance b4 being so critical. And, instead of being so vague, how is the Su 35 "so much better"? Certainly not in avionics or stealth. Perhaps maneuverability, when flying clean.
Speaking of flying clean (or rather the opposite).
Wouldn't you think the F-35 would have a better roll rate (and can therefore make snap-turns faster) than the F-16 with the same load-out (let's say two 1000Ibs JDAM's, two AIM-9X's and enough fuel to loiter in the area for a bit)? I mean the F-35 is packaging it's weapons and fuel quite close to the fuselage (if going for full stealth) while the F-16 is forced to distribute it out on the wings.
@MrFalconfly I completely agree, and couldn’t have said it any better. LM has already come out and said the F-35 maneuverability should be on par with the F-16 and 18. So far they've exceeded or met the USAF's expectations with the F22, so I don't have any reason doubt with their statements about the F-35.
@asusucks yeah, the only problem is they havent shown it off to the public. they should, because until they do, many people will find it hard to believe, and i dont blame them
@JBtheProducer Well, I think it's going to be a while b4 you see F-35's in airshows. Afterall, it's still undergoing tests. I think people will be surprised at its manueverablity. We'll have to wait and see.....
I work at the power plant where the Steam is made (gray building in the background) it makes us proud to be such a part of mission our carrier fleet has and being only hundreds of feet away from the launches is extremely cool.
@underbird It's rumored he wasn't a big fan of the Navy.
"Starve before doing business with the damned Navy. They don't know what the hell they want and will drive you up a wall before they break either your heart or a more exposed part of your anatomy."
@Jasonjays122 I was just about to type "The Navy verson looks better beause of the longer wings." Thanks for saving me the trouble of typing all that ... hey wait!
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ljackso 3 days ago
Is it just me or the wings of 35c really are a bit larger?
TheMMUW 4 days ago
@TheMMUW Yes. They are larger than A/B variations.
IcesBlack 4 days ago
@TheMMUW They're wider, but not longer. The wings are extended out a bit, but also has a joint in it so the wingtips fold up.
weirdguy564 3 days ago
This plane is just piece of crab. Watch this here on YT guys and you know why. 1/5 DOCUMENTRY ON F-35 JOINT STRIKE FIGHTER .
FrancisJoa 5 days ago
@FrancisJoa hes just talking about how the f-35 has short wings this is the f-35C plus the B needs the short wings to do VTOL and STVOL look at the harrier.
ESC8781 4 days ago
beautiful
joebreaker100 6 days ago
single engine jet in the Navy........it just doesn't seem like a good idea
msalak87 2 weeks ago
@msalak87 just have to see how it performs...
PrownToOwn 1 week ago
@msalak87 Yeah because it sure as shit didnt work for the british or the u.s marines with the harrier, did it? Oh wait......
Antifaith29 4 days ago
@Antifaith29 Your right, the Harrier is a safe reliable aircraft for long duration flights at sea. I'm sure it's crash record would reflect this. I don't mind your comment but why try to be a smart mouth when arguing against an extremely logical point?
msalak87 3 days ago
@Antifaith29 Harriers are not stealth. Or supersonic. Or easy to fly. Or lower maintenance due to being new.
Guys, old planes are worn out. Just like your car, you have to get a new one sooner or later, and you don't buy the same thing you just had do you? If that were not true, then we would all be driving our grandparents model T.
weirdguy564 3 days ago
@weirdguy564 Interestingly enough, the F35 isnt classified as stealth anymore either. I do agree with your points however, something new is definatley need something new.
For a sorce on the stealth thing i used wiki so its not 100% reliable but from what ive read they downgraded from very low observable to low observable, a radar cross section from a marble to a beachball. Still low observ yes but no more than say the Rafale.
Antifaith29 3 days ago
@weirdguy564 Augh excuse my awesome sentence structure lol, i got a little mixed up with what i was saying.
Antifaith29 3 days ago
Remix of "Blue Orchid - White Stripes" plus F-35 = time to fap.
Pilgrimman007 2 weeks ago
I can fap to this
Afireman4u 2 weeks ago 2
So glad Britain is getting the F-35C and not the A or B...
EdGeyy 3 weeks ago
Steam or emal???
TheChristianRight09 3 weeks ago
The F-35 is a nice looking bird. The Boeing X-32 cockpit visibility seems to much better than the F-35. Can any pilots out there comment on this please. Does cockpit visibility make a big difference?
ti994apc 3 weeks ago
@ti994apc Not in BVR combat...
lasourisaboyante 2 weeks ago
the music name ?
GhostHawk76 4 weeks ago
Fraco, muito fraco.
Boryzz100 4 weeks ago
No matter how many billions of our tax money congress throws at this program, the F-35 will never be able to compete with the latest Russian and Chinese fighters. That is the result of 40 years of feel-good education.
safetychoice 4 weeks ago
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TheDAWinz 4 weeks ago
@safetychoice Nah West is ahead. Russians and Chinese fighters don't have much stealth and they have bad RADAR. It will take another 30+ years to come near us. We are designing sixth generation fighters
casperblack30 3 weeks ago
@casperblack30 too bad we don't have the economy to support it :/
ThePaddy3107 2 weeks ago
@ThePaddy3107 currently West constitute more than 55% of world economy. Govt. spends much money on welfare. UK and France are at #3&4 on top military spending. China is second. Russia is 5th. There are serious mismanagement but during wartime we have industrial capability. China has no major allies its all alone.
casperblack30 2 weeks ago
@safetychoice
That's because the F-35 is not a air superiority fighter you fucking retard.
The F-22 can rape those chick and slav shit pieces of metal
Gabe2590 3 weeks ago 2
SU-33 can take off from aircraft carrier completely unaided.
Danhtran1122 1 month ago
@Danhtran1122 And also not loaded to the extent that aircraft from a US Navy carrier can take off with.
8UP1977 1 month ago
@Danhtran1122 Incorrect. In can take off from Soviet-style ski-jump carriers. It is not CATOBAR capable.
rodhavji 3 weeks ago
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Danhtran1122 1 month ago
This is the airtcraft being ordered for the Royal Navy for the new Queen Elizabeth class carriers
BRU11ROAD 1 month ago
@BRU11ROAD That is actually a great addition to a naval fleet but to be a front line fighter going up against T-50's and SU-35's the outlook is grim. The only aircraft able to dominate those two fighters is the F-22.
Warpath2198 1 month ago
@Warpath2198 The US Navy doesn't have any F-22s, though.
Just Super Hornets.
BasilFawlty4444 3 weeks ago
the F-35C is the only one I approve of. the A has too much wing loading, and the B is far too complex.
knifemakejake 1 month ago
@knifemakejake why do you only aprove of the only one wot cant do its job it cant even land on carriers because thay put the hook in the wrong place and now its gona have to get redesigned even canceld if it cost to much
wiganerrmc 1 month ago
@wiganerrmc the hook problem can be fixed fairly quickly. the part I like is the navy's insistence on larger wings.
knifemakejake 1 month ago
@wiganerrmc Its not going to get cancelled. A lot of nations are putting up money for its continuing development and even the Marines are refusing to take F-18's because they want this aircraft.
Warpath2198 1 month ago
@theARMAProductions - Those are a bunch of misconceptions. All variants of the F-35 use the Pratt & Whitney F135 engine. GE has continued to develop the F136 on its own dime, despite absolute noninterest on the part of Congress. The F-35Charlie has greater wingspan for a higher fuel fraction, to meet the Navy's range requirements.
Maupin001 1 month ago
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snipski0894 1 month ago
Now let's see it trap. Oh wait. It can't. Thanks for the multibillion dollar jet that's useless to the Navy Lockheed.
CaptainMorgan896 1 month ago
@CaptainMorgan896 trap?, oh yeah, it can hover!
eifeldude1 1 month ago
@eifeldude1 Bravo can hover. Charlie must trap, which it looks it may not be capable of. Thus it may very well be useless to the Navy.
CaptainMorgan896 2 weeks ago
@CaptainMorgan896 Which is why they test, and then they will make changes as needed...
lasourisaboyante 2 weeks ago
Why would you Cat launch a plane that can do VTOL?
CjDaddyX 1 month ago
@CjDaddyX
Because the F-35C is not SVTOL
the F-35B is.
Gabe2590 1 month ago
@Gabe2590 OIC! thanks I didn't know the different models
CjDaddyX 1 month ago
@Gabe2590 The F-35B is Short Vertical Take-off and landing?. I think you mean STOVL
rodhavji 3 weeks ago
@CjDaddyX F35A is conventional takeoff. F35B is vertical takeoff/landing and short takeoff. F35C is carrier based model. F35B can do vertical takeoffs but it can't withstand as much stress compared to the F35A/F35C model.
zszs100 1 month ago
Dry thrust launch?
discofishing 1 month ago
Still has only one engine. Famous quip from Eagle drivers and Hornet drivers, "One pilot, One bomb, One engine... One way..." In the first Gulf War we lost Harriers to SAMs, but not a single Hornet. You take one near the fuselage, down it goes, not to mention just compressor blade problems for the AV-8. Having two engines increases survivability.
sharkfood06 2 months ago
@sharkfood06 I dunno why you guys would still quote that "not a single Hornet lost in GW I to SAMs" crap. Where have you been since 2003? In OIF I we lost three twin-engine birds due to SAM hits. 1 Tornado GR.4A and 1 F/A-18C were fratricides from US PAC-3s in Mar/Apr. An Iraqi Roland downed 1 A-10A also in Apr.
Only then-Capt Campbell (whom I've met) managed to limp her critically-damaged A-10 back after a MANPADs hit while on low CAS for the 1st ID.
RingSight91 3 weeks ago
Cute !!
pocket853 2 months ago
Cute !!
pocket853 2 months ago
I think the F35s are very advanced and will be the war horse of the future carriers.
However, the F35 is seriously challenged by the J20 stealth fighter that China is developing. The J20 is larger than the F22 and has greater range than the F22 given her size. The J20 is designed to hit carriers from long range and this is going to undermine the F35 being a smaller plane with less payload.
ConstantineJoseph 3 months ago
@ConstantineJoseph With all the crash test videos of chinese made cars and chinese fighter jets that were made aren't proven effective in combat. They come up with crappy stuff. And not to mention that chinese stealth technology is still in its infancy, i'm pretty sure that they would push the production of the J-20 and by that time, the US could may have already come up with something to counter this threat. Although china may catch up with the technology needed as long they steal information.
762459 2 months ago
@762459
The US may already have something up their sleeves. Perhaps an upgrade of the F35 system.
As the main bulk of aircraft the Chinese air force will face is by carrier borne aircraft. The F35C, not the F22 will be the main threat to the J20. Hence the J20 has already challenged the F35 program as the J20 is signifiantly larger than the F35 and can carry a much bigger payload. The tech is unknown but with the billions spent on F35, the J20 has cast doubts on the F35 ability
ConstantineJoseph 2 months ago
@ConstantineJoseph Thats why the Navy is not using the F35 as its air superiority fighter. Believe it or not F-18's will still fly that mission even with the F35 in service, The U.S is looking at Boeing's F/A-XX for that role.
Baseshocks 1 month ago
@762459 Thats why they had hackers break into the F35 development system to take as much data as possible.
Baseshocks 1 month ago
Can someone tell me why would they need to use a catapult for a fighter that can takeoff without a runway. Thanks.
Darkmanskin 3 months ago
@Darkmanskin They are making sure this aircraft will work with a catapult before they try it from an aircraft carrier.
SpankySpade 3 months ago
@Darkmanskin It can not take off vertically, only land vertically. Hence STOVL (Short Take Off Vertical Landing)
ccctpc 3 months ago
@Darkmanskin The F-35C does indeed require a runway. Of the three variants, only the F-35B can depart and land vertically. All three variants are quite different animals to each other.
stevel666 3 months ago
@stevel666 I would think they would use the B model.
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ValeriaSergey 3 months ago
who cares what it looks like
reignfan1 3 months ago
So badass !
RECONDO101st 3 months ago
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I work on JB MDL it's the electromagnetic aircraft launcher.. when they did it for the first time.. they made a pretty big deal about it
antman08015 3 months ago
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antman08015 3 months ago
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TheTwicey 3 months ago
a cat shot
datzfast 4 months ago
Is it just me or does the F-35 look like a cheap piece of crap compared to the F-22 ? Oh wait, that's because IT IS.
WunderDoob 4 months ago
So sad that this is going to be America's future... Sluggish and ugly. Oh wait.
Wellwellwellwell1 4 months ago
@Wellwellwellwell1 It is a steam catapult, and the F-35 performs better than the F-16 and F/A-18.
ApacheCobra 3 months ago
@ApacheCobra Couldn't tell about the cat, but no, it does not. The F-16 and the F/A-18 both have better maintenance schedules, and the F/A-18 can do high AoA maneuvers.
Wellwellwellwell1 3 months ago
@Wellwellwellwell1 It has been made public information that the F-35 will reach 55 degrees AoA trimmed, with an absolute limit even further beyond 55 degrees. Maintenance is a tough aspect to comment on, being that the F/A-18 and F-16 are at the end of their days and the F-35 is still at least 5 years from IOC, though Lockheed seems happy to tout how maintenance-friendly the F-35 will be.
ApacheCobra 3 months ago
@ApacheCobra The reason I bring up maintenance is that the stealth skin will be a maintenance nightmare, just like the F-22. And the AoA is low for an all-aspect fighter of the future. It can't even use the VTOL mid-flight to improve nose-down characteristics, allowing for flips. If it could, it would be so much cooler, though that maneuver would be an altitude killer. In any case, we'll see how it performs in combat compared to the Falcon and the Hornet. We're going off of what Lockheed says.
Wellwellwellwell1 3 months ago
that nose mount looks like the F-18 nose mount! launch bar and all!!
CDeLeon791 4 months ago
@CDeLeon791 they all look like that F-18 F-14 E-2C all of them look similar
k2477456 4 months ago
this is a historic moment, love the video!!
88ABRAMS88 4 months ago
Why wasnt I invited the 27th of july was my birthday and I love airplanes...NEXT TIME invite me. please
jayjaykewl727 5 months ago
looks fat
toneykk 5 months ago
With the F-35 being so cost effective why having congress gone with this instead of the F-22 Raptor? This air craft is going to be used by the Navy, Air Force & Marine Corps.
Talyn81 5 months ago
@Talyn81 They have... this is in the U.S. arsenal. The F22 plays a different combat role.
jasonroxorz 5 months ago
@jasonroxorz thank you.
Talyn81 5 months ago
@Talyn81 the F-35 is a multirole fighter and the F-22 is for air superiority that means the F-22 is faster more manuverable and a much better climber among other things
k2477456 4 months ago
nice
conorb2011 5 months ago
The 40k lb monster engine sure makes a difference on the cat launch. Very impressive climb rate even without usual ship headwind.
michael19157 5 months ago
looks scarier with the longer wings...awesome!!!
PsyphaX09 5 months ago
@LockheedMartinVideos I'm sorry sir is that a regular steam catapult or is that a electromagnetic aircraft launcher?
And if it is why not mentioned? Its a huge deal for two new technology units working perferctly with each other...
4V14T10N 5 months ago 31
@4V14T10N What you see in this video is a steam catapult. Some aircraft platforms have been tested with EMALS, but the F-35 is not one of those platforms.
ThePhysicist47 5 months ago
@ThePhysicist47 how do you know it's a steam cat? i'm no expert, but in every navy video i've seen you can see the steam rising from the cats just before, during, and after launch.
oldfrend 4 months ago
@oldfrend I quote the official NAVAIR press release: "The F-35C completed its first steam catapult launch July 27 marking another milestone toward initial ship trials in 2013." The release goes on to say that this was a TC-13 Mod 2 steam catapult, representative of what's currently in the fleet. As for the steam you don't see, well, this catapult was in perfect working order, not in heavy use like what you'd see on a carrier. Thus, no steam leaks.
ThePhysicist47 4 months ago 2
@4V14T10N i agree, but steam or EM, the result is the same for the plane, (but hell yeah,not for maintenance team...)
bingofioul 4 months ago
@4V14T10N Doesn't look like steam, since there isn't any steam coming from the shuttle channel. Just my not so professional opinion.
Wellwellwellwell1 4 months ago
@4V14T10N ...It's certainly could be electromagnetic, as they do have that at the base and have been using it for some time. Also, there was no steam visible, though that may not mean anything:
kayakutah 4 months ago
@4V14T10N I believe it's the electromagnetic one, but I am not sure.
MrZw69 1 month ago
why does the c have longer wings than the a, the c is operating from carriers were space is limited so why are the wings longer
packr72 5 months ago
@packr72 more lift from wings = shorter takeoff distance? ie carrier? + folding wings :)
safetybearry 5 months ago
@safetybearry makes sense,
packr72 5 months ago
@packr72 The other control surfaces are bigger too, so as to increase handling and maneuverability, particularly at slow speeds. Navy aircraft such as the F/A-18 are typically extremely maneuverable at low speeds.
ApacheCobra 4 months ago
I think the F-35c looks really cool BUT also think that the F-35 is kind of a failure...If I where the president of any country I would refuse to buy it,would feel safer with F-15s and F-16s,to be honest if I can reach my dream to become a fighter pilot,I would feel kind of unsafe facing any other aircraft in close combat...just saying...no power no agility and in close combat stealth means nothign,so I would think about it.
jorgemdllin 6 months ago
@jorgemdllin Who says the F-35 has no power or agility? Its single engine is more powerful than the two in an F-18, and LM has said the F-35 will be able to perform at the same level as and F-16 and 18, which is very impressive. Being stealthy only enhances its ability to survive, and with today's high off-boresight weapons like the Aim 9X makes it very lethal.
asusucks 6 months ago
@asusucks well man I understand your point,I think what I said because of what a lot of pilots said,LM will say the F-35 is the best in the world,after all they have to sell it,severl air forces are having second toughts not only for the increased cost but also for what I said,did you know that the astralian air force made a simulation(this beauty have never been probe in real combat)where they lost against Sukhoi Planes from Russia and China planes?did you know that the guy on charge was...
jorgemdllin 6 months ago
@jorgemdllin So far LM has been true to its word with the F22. The USAF has said that in regards to the F-22 it has either exceeded or met all expectations so there's no reason to doubt their comments on the JSF.
You're referring to the RAND report, which was later found to be bogus. Rand Corp even came out and issued a denial that they never made statements that assessed the F-35's performance. Here's the link to their press release: rand. org/news/press/2008/09/25. html
asusucks 6 months ago
You're basing your comments on rumors of the F-22 posted by the Washington Post, which were for the most part shown to be false or exagerations. The avionics on the F-35 will far surpass that of any Su or Mig, or Chinese a/c. It's stealth is greater than the PAK-FA, and the J-20 by large margins. You have no idea about maintenance bc it has not entered service.
asusucks 6 months ago
@asusucks well you are right man,is hard to find out wich ine is accurate and wich one isnt,so let thing that part of the info as"will see"but then the interviews with some developers and specialist is also fake?and the reason of the countries having second thoughts about the cost in relation with the performance?if it keeps this way will be canceled just like the raptor,despite the raptor is a real fighter,not like the F-35 that a lot of the military have doubts about it,but well, Will see..
jorgemdllin 6 months ago
@jorgemdllin I think the cost issue is more due to the current state of the world's economy than the F-35's performance, but like you said , we'll have to wait and see....
asusucks 6 months ago
@asusucks fired because of the inefficiency on the program progress?and all that without taking on board the high cost per plane and for maintanance,and it cost less hour trining,you know that with less training the level goes down,and Im pretty sure a Pilot in the F-15 or in the Su30 well trained would shot down the F-35 any time,but well is just my opinion,you look deeper in the F-35 reviwes and you will see what I say.
Cheers!
jorgemdllin 6 months ago
that's a sexy plane
Prolocater 6 months ago
Who's the band behind the music?
thunktank 6 months ago
It's a damn shame the entire F-35 fleet is grounded because the power pack, life support, and emergency backup systems all have a tendency to fail at the same time.
Joint Strike Failure.
cmdrnmartin 7 months ago
@cmdrnmartin That's what testing is all about! Some people here just dont seem to understand that fighter aircraft are at the absolute cutting edge of military technology. In the testing phase(and beyond) there will be problems and there will be delays and there will be deaths. These aren't simple baby cribs! This is how it is and some of you people, and the government, need to pay more attention to history. Early F-16's were extremely deadly for pilots. Remember?
bujoun76 7 months ago 9
Lockheed Martin C-5M Super Galaxy ( variant THE AIR WEAPONS Reload) Concept aircraft for F-22/ F-35 & F-15E /F-16
FligthSimulatorTC 7 months ago
SU 35 is so much better.
EJ25RUN 7 months ago
@EJ25RUN GTFO. RIGHT NOW.
PsychoJester26 7 months ago
@EJ25RUN great story. Go troll on a Su-35 video
CBlackjr 7 months ago
@EJ25RUN Bullshit. There are cases where your Su-35 cannot even get sales over other legacy aircraft, isn't steatlh, and its avionics suck compared to the JSF. Go away troll.
asusucks 7 months ago
@asusucks there are Nato related reasons why sales don't come. But i don't see how you consider a person a troll when they prefer twin engine jets over single engine ones. I am a pilot in real life. (single engine land + instrument) but if ever offered, I'd take an F15 over the 35.
EJ25RUN 7 months ago
@EJ25RUN good question why don't you ask the JSF committee on why they chose single engine. I remember that Lockheed's rival Boeing X-32 is also a single jet engine.
dragontail2k6 7 months ago
@EJ25RUN As a pilot I also agree with you, but then again there are roles the F35 can perform that the F15 can't. As an aicraft "per se" yes, the F15 is one hell of a machine, probably one of the best aircraft ever built. I'd say single engines only advantage over twins is maintance costs, in vector thrust aircraft there could be other advantages, but then again, I'm not an expert :)
rivendell9999 6 months ago
@EJ25RUN Even Brazil, which is not part of NATO, rejected the Su-35. Even if you're a pilot, that does not make you an expert. So far, the test pilots of the F-35 have been very impressed, and some of those have flight hours in the Eagle, so I would take their word b4 someone's on YT. People need to give the F-35 a chance b4 being so critical. And, instead of being so vague, how is the Su 35 "so much better"? Certainly not in avionics or stealth. Perhaps maneuverability, when flying clean.
asusucks 6 months ago
@asusucks
Speaking of flying clean (or rather the opposite).
Wouldn't you think the F-35 would have a better roll rate (and can therefore make snap-turns faster) than the F-16 with the same load-out (let's say two 1000Ibs JDAM's, two AIM-9X's and enough fuel to loiter in the area for a bit)? I mean the F-35 is packaging it's weapons and fuel quite close to the fuselage (if going for full stealth) while the F-16 is forced to distribute it out on the wings.
MrFalconfly 6 months ago
@MrFalconfly I completely agree, and couldn’t have said it any better. LM has already come out and said the F-35 maneuverability should be on par with the F-16 and 18. So far they've exceeded or met the USAF's expectations with the F22, so I don't have any reason doubt with their statements about the F-35.
asusucks 6 months ago
@asusucks yeah, the only problem is they havent shown it off to the public. they should, because until they do, many people will find it hard to believe, and i dont blame them
JBtheProducer 6 months ago
@JBtheProducer Well, I think it's going to be a while b4 you see F-35's in airshows. Afterall, it's still undergoing tests. I think people will be surprised at its manueverablity. We'll have to wait and see.....
asusucks 6 months ago
@asusucks it's already been in an airshow, but only as a flyby, not showing its maneuverable capabilities.
JBtheProducer 6 months ago
Hooya
MT1Robinson 7 months ago
I work at the power plant where the Steam is made (gray building in the background) it makes us proud to be such a part of mission our carrier fleet has and being only hundreds of feet away from the launches is extremely cool.
NJBeemaster 7 months ago
New songs... Drift, REsistance, Memories, In my childhood dream, Light and Shadow
Jacobs0s 7 months ago
woot!... all the best F-35C
F35JSFA1 7 months ago
China is copying this for sure hahahaha
BryanMumble 7 months ago
congratulations
MrKieranwalsh 7 months ago
love it!!!!!!
dabeez68 7 months ago
Somewhere Kelly Johnson is smiling.
underbird 7 months ago 11
@underbird It's rumored he wasn't a big fan of the Navy.
"Starve before doing business with the damned Navy. They don't know what the hell they want and will drive you up a wall before they break either your heart or a more exposed part of your anatomy."
thecrags 3 months ago
It is very good !
TABINEKOMILK 7 months ago
one sexy machine...
DaveDoom 7 months ago
Awesome. Can't wait for the Uk to get these and see them at airshows
lekton2000 7 months ago
I can't wait to see it go super sonic.
superdonkeyballs 7 months ago
@superdonkeyballs Already did back on March 4th ;)
xero993 7 months ago
@xero993 ooooo... is there video?
superdonkeyballs 7 months ago
@superdonkeyballs Not for the F-35C unfortunately (you can find the reports online however - it was F-35C CF-1 that made the flight).
There is footage of the F-35A going supersonic though.
/watch?v=XQyf2jeElyg&feature=player_detailpage#t=62
Keep in mind though that nothing really visibly happens when you go supersonic.
xero993 7 months ago
The C version is definitely the best of the bunch
Jetfreak74656 7 months ago
When will it launch from a carrier?
IamYoddle 7 months ago
Can't wait to see these at live fire exercises.
MrFalconfly 7 months ago
Was this launched using the new EMALs system? AWESOME video!!
jointstrike35STOVL 7 months ago 2
Is it just me or is this takeoff kinda sexy?
bujoun76 7 months ago 13
@bujoun76 its sexy
skateboy159 7 months ago
I can't wait to see a carrier landing.
viperq 7 months ago 2
F 35 HELL YEAH
SanderWits 7 months ago
I find the F-35C's look better than the F-35A and F-35B. It's probably the longer wings xD
Jasonjays122 7 months ago 30
@Jasonjays122 And the stronger 2 front wheels too instead of 1 perhaps??? XD
BlueSwifts 7 months ago
@Jasonjays122 I agree, I think they complement the thick fuselage better.
spawnofwheezedog 7 months ago
@Jasonjays122 Agreed, it should be the best variant too, it has the most range and payload.
dru4m 7 months ago
@Jasonjays122 it looks more like the f22, i think the a should have longer wings
packr72 5 months ago
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@Jasonjays122 it looks more like the f22, i think the a should have longer wings
packr72 5 months ago
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@Jasonjays122 it looks more like the f22, i think the a should have longer wings
packr72 5 months ago
@Jasonjays122 it looks more like the f22, i think the a should have longer wings
packr72 5 months ago
US Navy aircraft are always better in everyway
vellieux 5 months ago
@Jasonjays122 I was just about to type "The Navy verson looks better beause of the longer wings." Thanks for saving me the trouble of typing all that ... hey wait!
TonyN737 4 months ago
this version... ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!
pierogiac 7 months ago
Unite against the Machines (Drones). Drones kill innocent people every day.
no2facism 7 months ago
hey! China, Russia! u jelly?
fighterace2688 7 months ago
@fighterace2688 probably no.
toquielkan 7 months ago
@fighterace2688 China won't be since the J-20 is being made. But Russia ,LOL T-50 can kiss F-35s ass
Jasonjays122 7 months ago
Very cool. Now that Shuttle is over, may be I can work on the F-35. LM makes some awesome stuff!
AeroJimE27 7 months ago
History has been made! Teehee! =)
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