Did Flight 93 really crash in Shanksville? (Part Three)

[voodoowichdoctor]

where is part 2?

[muzicmaker2001]

@voodoowichdoctor

watch?v=JtglX3oomfI

[voodoowichdoctor]

@muzicmaker2001 blocked on copyright grounds

[muzicmaker2001]

@voodoowichdoctor

I just watched it.

[Meeksgoo]

Just did. Similar videos and your name is muzicmaker2001.

[muzicmaker2001]

@Meeksgoo

you know what happens when you assume something? 

[Meeksgoo]

@muzicmaker2001 Yes, I do.

[Meeksgoo]

Good. It would be very disturbing if someone thought that there would only be a handful of pictures taken at a plane crash like this. Maybe you can make another video like this and include the shots of the engine, pieces of the fuselage, cockpit recorder, etc. They aren't difficult to find.

[muzicmaker2001]

@Meeksgoo

But, here's another kicker. This clip shows multiple views/angles of the same crash site and there's no body parts or wreckage seen. I think we can draw some simple conclusions here, right? Thanks for the input.

[Meeksgoo]

@muzicmaker2001 You included a photo of a barn, as well as one of the Shanksville sign. You also have a couple shots there of debris after it has been cleaned up, why not include more? I think the simple conclusion here is that plane crashes scatter debris, posting a couple photos of the actual "crash site" does not do it justice. You're more than welcome for my input, I look forward to critiquing your other work so that you can strengthen your argument!

[muzicmaker2001]

@Meeksgoo

Your critiquing further opens the door to planted wreckage and photoshopping which have no place here. Thanks again..

[Meeksgoo]

@muzicmaker2001 That is quite unoriginal, I stated that this would be your exact response over an hour ago, thanks for reiterating my point about your paranoid delusions.

You strike me as the type of person who has NEVER been wrong in an argument in your life, and that you always have to get the last word. Quite sad really...

[muzicmaker2001]

@Meeksgoo

I'm wrong almost daily with other things in my life, but the evidence here is obvious. And if you predicted this beforehand, why bother? Do you really believe that some random 911 shill on YT would change my mind? I've encountered many like you and you're all exactly the same. Good luck...

[Meeksgoo]

@muzicmaker2001 Good luck to you too Ace.

[muzicmaker2001]

@Meeksgoo

One question. Being from Canada, what is the motive so deep where you almost take it personally when someone doesn't believes the official version of 911? Just curious?

[Meeksgoo]

@muzicmaker2001 I don't take it personally, I just feel there should be some discussion/debate over the films that you and other "truthers" post. Just like how you feel it is necessary to question the government, I feel others should question you. This criticism can only help you build stronger arguments, so I take your thanks sincerely.

And 9/11 affected us all, not just Americans.  And I have family in the States and visit there regularly (usually by air).

[muzicmaker2001]

@Meeksgoo

And my name is not Ace. Thanks

[Meeksgoo]

@muzicmaker2001 Sorry, I thought you were Ace Baker.

[muzicmaker2001]

@Meeksgoo

I have no idea why you would you think that?

[Meeksgoo]

They found over 1500 body parts.

They were able to identify all of the victims by December.

They found pieces of the engine, fuselage, etc.

They found the cockpit voice recorder.

What more do you want? A video of the plane going down? But then you would just claim that the video is just fake anyways. Ace you're ridiculous.

[muzicmaker2001]

@Meeksgoo

Yes, I can clearly see engine parts, a fuselage and 1500 body parts in that tiny hole also. Why would anyone doubt this?

[Meeksgoo]

@muzicmaker2001 Glad we're in agreement.

[muzicmaker2001]

@Meeksgoo

We will be in agreement after you pass the crack pipe?

[Meeksgoo]

@muzicmaker2001 Sorry Ace I don't touch the rock. We don't all have the luxury of being musicians who think about conspiracy theories all day long.

[muzicmaker2001]

@Meeksgoo

You should try it. The only problem with this life is that there are paid shills on YT that will do anything to refute the real truth...like state that there was 1500 body parts and plane wreckage in an open field where we can clearly see there isn't. Some sort of Jedi mind trick, ehh? 

[Meeksgoo]

@muzicmaker2001 If you saw photos you would say they were doctored. If you were there yourself and saw them you would say they were planted. What's the point of trying with you?

And you should quit smoking crack, that shit isn't good for you.

[muzicmaker2001]

@Meeksgoo

The photos of the crash site are right above in this clip. See any plane wreckage? Oh wait. There are more photos of the same crash site showing wreckage and 1500 body parts? That doesn't' seem weird to me at all.

[wllmdnldsn]

So passports and drivers license can,t survive a plane crash but id cards etc found intact after the challenger space shuttle exploded.Some might object here and say the id cards were plastic a passport is paper guess what the passports were vizia cards which means they were plastic not paper.

[matti1080]

Fuck despunkers

[NAUresistance]

Maybe once they figure out who actually hijacked the plane, I might take their other evidence a little more seriously. Saeed Al Ghamdi reports to be alive and well among others.

[punctualbird]

The thing about those Muslim names is that they are very common. Do you think there's only one Saeed Al Ghamdi on Earth? Google your own name and see how many people share the exact same name as you! Debunkers rule!

[mafaldacrumbwitty]

Muzicmaker2001-I'm willing to consider your conspiracy theory about Flight 93. It actually makes a lot more sense than the government party line. I only have one question, though. Where are the passengers of 93?

[Mesina2]

Nobody knows.

[godsfiddler]

I'm starting to suspect they weren't exactly "innocent" passengers..if you get my drift.

[mafaldacrumbwitty]

Please explain it to me

[godsfiddler]

I'm starting to wonder if those "passengers" were gov't officials.  Or, if they were real passengers, if they weren't hijacked and killed elsewhere.

[mafaldacrumbwitty]

Okay, thank you. Now I can see where your mind is going

[godsfiddler]

I wonder why people who aren't willing to accept that POSSIBLY the US gov't is behind this is even on here? Let's put it this way..we were in Iraq for 2 years or so. Couldn't find Saddam...and all this while he was staying literally across the street from the US military in Iraq...

I'm not saying that the US Gov't is behind all of this, I'm just saying it's a possibility. There have been questions that puzzled me. The ever changing story with the media.

[mafaldacrumbwitty]

Plus, the ridiculous claim that he had weapons of mass destruction. To this day, the government has never been able to prove that Iraq had ANY connection to 9/11. We should have gone directly into Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia, where the hijackers originated.

[godsfiddler]

I actually believe there were, and they were sent to Lybia(?) or whichever country it was that attacked Israel with missiles.

People do forget that we WERE in Saudi Arabia. Back in the late 80s or early 90s. Unfortunately, Bush Sr. didn't finish the job then. Yes, Saddam needed to be taken down, even then. Too bad it wasn't done then.

[DeeandraRose]

A lot of people died in NYC and elsewhere on 9/11,for what seems to be an attack that maybe wasn't what we were led to believe. The question remains ,why?

[Mesina2]

Iraq.

[martynhanson]

where were the bodies? there is something wrong here, surely people can see that:

no passenger jet hit the pentagon

no passenger jet crashed in Shanksville

the US govt only had an enquiry into 9/11 kicking and screaming - then they tightly controlled it - just like the Warren commission in 64

[SHAUNLIVE08]

its simple what happened,

it was shot down, why would there be a huge cloud of smoke in the air, and no smoke below it?

it was shot down, because the American government saw it as another threat to kill even more people.

[Mesina2]

"Charsh site" is acualy whole from carpet bombing.

[capcan]

Ummm.. I knew someone on the flight, and he is very dead. Did bigfoot get him? Or perhaps hes just hiding. Ya know till it all blows over.

B

[allen4150]

Maybe aliens were involved LOL

[cabinetmaker45]

Maybe bigfoot was responsible. I love conspiracies. I'll bet loch ness was the co pilot. LOL

[muzicmaker2001]

Maybe bigfoot actually ate the plane? I think you would believe it if the government told you so. It makes more sense.

[zetorx]

LOL! First one must assume this video has an ounce of credibility.

[muzicmaker2001]

I love how ppl write statements like this before actually researching this themselves, hmm?

[cjk51234]

Cite your sources wise one.

[muzicmaker2001]

All the evidence shown are exhibits and documents from the Moussaoui trial. They are available for the public to view on rcfp[dot]org/moussaoui/. Interesting tidbit, most photos weren't released until Apr06???

[Koenig39]

He means cite your bogus claims.

[muzicmaker2001]

Don't have any.

[Denierbud11]

But you do not show all the evidence or even the best evidence, you only show a few items and claim that it is dispositive. You're a sham and so is this video.

Anyone want to see the real pictures, send me a message.

Why do truthers lie?

[cjk51234]

LOL no shit.

[seeknthetruth]

I can't believe that ppl still think that a plane actually crashed in Shanksville.

[kenji4861]

that's nuts, the bandana survived when not a single body remained? That's a miracle.

[japanesexxxxxxxxx]

Someone should call Guiness Book of World Records.

[japanesexxxxxxxxx]

In all of history, I bet that is the least amount of wreckage ever gathered after the crash of a commercial airliner.