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  • I do SI and am a Christian. I have experienced rejection from others because this seems such a horrifying, incomprehensible thing to outsiders.But know that i understand and don't judge.And though I understand giving up on church,plz dont give up on Jesus.He doesn't judge,he's not horrified.He will never leave you.A recent song came out that seems to address SI sufferers.Plz check it out on youtube. Come As You Are by Pocket Full of Rocks. Maybe you are okay now.I hope so.

  • I stopped going to church also because the people there looked at me differently. I think that some christians are the most jugmental people of all.

  • oh yea, and one more thing, i also don't like going to church. i find it easier to worship and praise God on my own time. idk, church just isn't really for me. i go to it sometimes, but not a lot and that doesn't make anyone a bad person if they don't go to church. and i just don't like a most preachers b/c they're just plain hypocrites, not all of them, but most of them.

  • (2/2) try to be a Christian. but i've always known that what it means to be one w/God is to love everyone around you even if they don't love you or you don't agree w/how they're living or what they're doing. b/c that's how God is. he accepts u as u r.

    but i think it's VERY wrong to force God and religion down someone's throat and accuse them of being secular just b/c of something u do, b/c i mean, everyone has something bad they do that they wanna get rid off. NO human is perfect.

  • (1/2) it's not the religion or the God that's letting you down. it's actually the people that act like they're Christians when they really don't even try to be. people like that are not Christians, they just let you down and they take God's word out of context and make the people that are really trying to be good and serve God the right way and not be judgmental and ignorant look bad.

    a lot of "Christians" have really made me feel bad.

    and i'm not offended by your video even though i myself

  • Question with boldness even the existence of a god; because if there be one he must approve of the homage of reason more than that of blindfolded fear.

    -Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 10, 1787

  • I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent.

    -Thomas Jefferson, letter to Francis Hopkinson, March 13, 1789

  • I concur with you strictly in your opinion of the comparative merits of atheism and demonism, and really see nothing but the latter in the being worshipped by many who think themselves Christians.

    -Thomas Jefferson, letter to Richard Price, Jan. 8, 1789

  • Listen, You are asking a god that does not exist to intervene in your psychological problems. the judeoIslamoChristian god does not exist. This "god" instructed the jews to lie cheat steal and enslave non jews. Do you really think a true god would do that? Jesus was a racist he claimed that he was there only for jews and he called the Greek woman with a sick daughter a "dog". People kneel and kill for this crap, instead of taking life in their own hands.

  • I'm really sorry that happened to you. I think hypocrisy is largely in the church and sometimes it makes me not want to be a Christian. I don't know, it's confusing.

  • Well done for standing up to these judgemental close minded people. Religion let me down too and now I feel better without it!

  • totally unrelated! i love your hoodie :) hanson :)

  • if relgion has let god down like you say then god is evil.

  • ppl in the church seem to have this belief that if you have a mental illness or anything like that , that you have some kind of demon. i read this story abt this woman who was bipolar and went to the church counselor for help. long story short they tried to rebuke the demon that was "making her bipolar" and when it didnt work they told her that she was obviously evil in some way and cld not come back to that church. the woman ended up going to an actual psychiatrist and getting help.

  • don't hurt your self ever you seem nice you don't need religion they mess with your head their are good people out there i hope you find them life is messed up some times but anyone who would ignore you isn't worth giving a shit about.

  • Begging doesn't work ... handing him your burden and walking away from it does! You have to TRULY BELIEVE that he'll take care of it, not just HOPE that he will!

    I've never heard of God giving out free passes to heaven just for listening to someone preach at church or youth group for awhile ... trust me, I've been there!

    Place it in his hands and it'll get better - I TRULY BELIEVE THAT IT WILL GET BETTER FOR YOU! Just keep repeating to yourself, "I'LL GET THROUGH THIS! I ALWAYS DO!"

  • Please keep in mind that the bible states that it is worse to have known the Lords word and turn away from it than to have never known his word at all!

    God doesn't MAKE you do anything, he ALLOWS things to happen for a reason, whether you want to hear it or not. Life is full of trials and tribulations and our faith is tested EVERY SINGLE DAY. Just because the HUMAN BEINGS at your church acted this way doesn't give the right to put your creator on a pedestal -

    It's all YOUR choice not his!

  • ..... to come across as judgmental and ''preachy''. ı just wanted to share that, because although ı dıdn't self ınjure.. ı struggled wıth purgıng and suıcıdal thoughts and depressıon and my answer was Jesus. He really ıs my rock and the freedom He (the person) brıngs ıs amazıng. ı hope you see my sıncerıty and know that ı really do speak wıth compassıon. ı respect your honesty and ı hope everythıng works out for you as ıt has for me :)

  • ...as ın they really do help others and care for people ınstead of lyıng about ıt. God cares for people's hurts and hypocrıtes make Hım look bad. :( He was there for me when the church wasn't and He dıdn't crıtıcıse me for hurtıng..He was a comforter and ı know you don't want lıke preached at so ı'm not tryıng to do that, but God has brought me through so much and loved me always and ı hope you can know that real love and joy too. my hope ıs not to offend or...

  • ı've been a chrıstıan for lıke forever and ı mean ...God ıs my world - but ı struggled wıth these kınds of thıngs too, esp as a teenager. ı dıdn't fıt ın wıth the other kıds and ı was goıng through some self ımage stuff and eatıng ıssues, depressıon etc. but ı felt so rejected whıch was really hard cause ı love God and wanted to be a part of ıt. now (years later lol) ı go to a church where they do as they say ....

  • i have had very similar experiences and feel that same hatred towards the church. but iv got to ask you, arent you ever afraid of going to hell? i hate the church and have rejected it and now live in fear that i will burn in hell for all eternity...

  • Well, if you look back on what we learned in church about heaven and hell, if you accepted Christ regardless you'd be going to heaven, even if you rejected the church later on. That being said, I am not sure that anything I learned on the subject is true, and so no, I am not too worried about it, and you shouldn't be either. You have to do what you feel is right for you!

  • true, though i was under the impression that you had to do more than just "pray the prayer." i though you had to live your life for jesus or something. yeah, your right, im not even sure that its true....

  • @xsullengirlx your right- you WERE abandoned by the church. REAL Christians or god-loving people would have NEVER done that shit to you. congrats on leaving organized cults, i mean, er- church. lol find your OWN spirituality, you dont have to be a part of any group, you are your own person!

  • @amateuraddiction Church is a place to worship GOD with other believers they are not perfect like our lord, GOD wants you spiritually not Earthly minded, please live for the Lord not the Church or other people GOD bless you!

  • I'm so sorry that happened to you. I don't even know how to describe how awful what that youth leader did to you. I can understand why you feel abandoned by the church.

  • I am a christian and have not had issues but I have a close friend who has seperated from the church and I agree with his and your issues. Perhaps because my mom, after being baptized, doughted if there was a god and was punished by people of faith for it so I have never been one to judge. Plus I know all of the pains you are going though, a chat some time would be nice. I don't have anyone who is currently strugling who i can talk to. Thanks!

  • Thats excacty how I feel...

  • have u seen zeitgeist? "religion the greatest story ever sold"

  • No, i haven't - but I am going to go check it out now, thanks for the suggestion!

  • Why you self injure?

    Is it because you keep everything inside and cant feel your own soul or some?

  • Be sure to check out Zeitgeist part 1 refuted also.

    watch?v=GYNmFQkHBaE

  • I know this is an older video, so I'm not sure if you have the exact same views, but it's those people who have issues. Most people do things that make others uncomfortable, and that doesn't mean they should abandon them, especially at church. Just thought I'd put my two cents in!

  • I don't blame you

  • i remember when i went to church, it was cause i had been like really depressed and suicidal and really sad and stuff and when i went i just felt judged like, everyone seemed to look at me different and stuff.

    my youth leader self injured in high school so when i told her about it she really wanted to talk to me but it was a bit too painfull.

    im a christian now, although i used to be athiest, Jesus saved me from commiting suicide.

  • They didn't help you. You went to them and to religion with a clean mind, hoping it was there the solution. You really were a believer, but they failed in their job. They claim their job is to help us and make us stronger, how come? They abandon you the minute you were screaming for help. That's why i don't trust religious people.

  • Exactly, you hit the nail on the head.

  • I hate when people in churches are like that. I'm really lucky to know an awesome pastor and youth worker who supported everyone at my school. Religion is only ever messed up because people incorporate their views into it, and people make mistakes and mess things up

    Im sad tht yu had such a crap youth leader if you ever decide to go back to church youll have better luck. I know for some people it takes them a bit to find the right church for them.

  • Remember that churches are filled with no-one except people so sin and hurt is unavoidable. Heaven is the only church in which you won't be hurt.

  • u r very beautiful by da way =) inside n out n i think ur awesome! =)

  • lets pray more each day to our Lord and Savior Jesus, worship him more, no matter what, its great to do so! amen

  • i understand u on da fact of ppl judgin u.. i believe in God but i hardly go 2 church n i dont feel comfortable ther.I have been strugglin bak n forth wit God..times where i have faith n times where i dont believe hes there but in da end he has been there..i juss havent had faith in him n i ignored him. yes there r ppl who say they r christian n are very judgemental n hypocritical dats y i dont like 2go2church 2 talk wit church members i juss stik 2 God cuz hes da onlyperson who wont judgeme.

  • Same thing happened to me.

  • xsullengirlx...as a believer/Christian, I pray that your honesty touches and encourages others as they struggle with their own "battles". You are correct, we as christians are imperfect people serving a perfect God. We sometimes say and do the wrong things . Hang in there, I believe strongly, you;ll end up where your supposed to be:-)

  • i know how you feel bout being judged and ignored by people. im going through that right now..im sorry cuz its a horrible feeling..they all jst abandond you and im sorry...your an awesom person! stay strong

  • thanks for your comment. it is very hard to feel judged and ignored, especially by people who you are supposed to be able to turn to and to trust. Stay strong yourself, and if you ever need anyone to talk to, send me a message. xo

  • I agree. And thank you for the link, I am always open to reading new things, i'll check it out. :)

  • I hate those fucking christians, they are so full of shit. Religious people pretend to be about love and pretend to live for god but they really are just living for themselves. When something bad happens they say it's either satan's doing or it is god's will because you will learn something important out of all the misery you are experiencing.

  • They have alot of other useless shit they tell each other to reassure themselves that jesus fag christ will save them and send them off on a rocket to heaven.

  • aint that the truth... it's all such bullshit, and it's sad that SO many people are disillusioned about it. it reminds me of some kind of weird cult. well, it essentially IS.

  • The worst thing is when something shitty happens, and a christian will say "god never gives us anything more than we can handle!!!" it's like, if there was a "god" why in the hell would he throw shit in our faces? it's rediculous. they can never just accept responsibility for anything, it's either god or satan. Did they ever think that things could be their OWN fucking fault? it's crazy.

  • thanks for the comment, i will check that link out.

  • As your faith strengthens, Satan tries harder to take you. It's not that God left you, it's that Satan took a special interest in you, and because of your mental challenges, he took a very special interest do to you being vulnerable. And those people at your church were dicks...

  • i don't believe satan took a special interest in me, i don't persoanlly believe in that sort of thing, because at the time, i wasn't as vulnerable to that as people would assume... but we are all entitled to our own opinions on the subject. Thanks for yours.

  • Most likely your youth leaders abandoned you because your situation not being explained in the bible. The answer could not be found in the text, so it is either made up or not of god. Therefore you are sinning on your own account, with no attempt to redeme your actions. It's ok though. Religion is man made, and man is anything but perfect (in our conception of perfection).

  • i agree with you 100%.

  • cutting and hanson are a bad mix. Hanson? really?

  • well, at that time i WAS 13 years old, so yes... hanson. But I still do like them, although I don't really feel like getting into a debate about it, because chances are you don't have a clue what they have been up to these days, and probably don't care :) haha. but i never considered hanson and cutting a "bad mix", probably the opposite, actually. idk.

  • Faith and Religion are two different things. I believe that religon is nothing but politics. What is the one thing all "religions" have in common. GOD!! So believe what you want but believe in GOD.

  • That was a lame comment if I ever heard one. Did you even watch the video? Faith and religion are two seperate topics, but I was discussing them both. Religion is a bunch of politics and brainwashing, but GOD has a lot to do with FAITH, and that's why the video is entitled "Faith AND religion" because I talked about why I don't participate in either. Don't you tell me what to believe in.

  • Oh im sorry yur life sucks... Maybe next time youll be content with what god gives you.

  • Yeah, I should be content with a life full of self destruction even though I gave my life to God and did nothing to deserve this, and begged every damn day for six years for him to help me through it. Sure, I see the bright side of things now. Amen and goodnight.

    Leave me alone and dont watch my videos if you cannot accept that someone have an opinion that isn't the same as YOURS. You are a perfect example of how Christians are, and I am glad i'm not one of them.

  • and by the way, my comment was a mature response to your original comment, and all you can say is "oh im sorry yur life sucks"... How utterly mature and spiritually enlightening of you.

  • im not a christian. and what do you want some pity. this IS real life and REAL shit happens. there are people out there who have it worse than you. so buck up and solve your problems because thats what people do is solve problems. but life is what you make it so if you dont like it then its your fault but im runnin my mouth so fuck it, hope you find peace....

  • yes, you really are running your mouth. this video really has little to do with my "problems" and more to do with MY experience with faith, god, and religion as a whole. These are not problems, these are my views. Why can't you actually respond to something I actually SAY? You go off topic and ramble about something completely different. I haven't blocked you because your comments are amusing, but now you're plain irritating and very ignorant. Have a nice life.

  • I agree that religion = politics, but not all religions have god in common. Some religions believe in multiple gods, some dont even believe in a diety at all (buddism for example). Religion is a gathering of like beliefs, which organize against those whom share a different world view.

  • I'm really sorry.

    I am a Christian.

    And a former self-injurer.

    That really sucks, but doesn't surprise me about them.

    Christian's can be such dumbasses sometimes.

    Ha, I am one, but I hate what they so often do to people.

    But it's cool. No preaching from me. =)

  • christy that is so sad. people who do things like that, you question yourself asking what you did you did wrong when in fact you did nothing wrong. you have to understand that people make mistakes and aren't perfect - it could be that none of them knew how to deal with that situation.

  • i think that i am the kind of person who always questions themself, even if they did nothing wrong. i have just learned to shoulder the blame in my life. but, im sure they didnt know how to deal, it just hurt because i trusted them so much. xox

  • Oh I have so much to say to you ! But I will refrain out of respect for your request. I can tell you this God was not testing your faith. It most likely was deeper & more sinerster than that. But I will not give you my view on this Just know I appreciate you shareing your story with US!

  • i can understand, how being ignored by them, you felt like you weren't welcome, and there was something wrong with you, well i hope you know there NOTHING WRONG WITH YOU, there was something wrong with them, they should have been helping you, instead of ignoring your problems:[ cause that just made them worse.

  • were these the comments you thought i deleted, because there are two parts to this video... anyway, thank you for standing up for me, no one ever has on this issue before. xo

  • SO MEAN! they probley thought you were a bad example on the other kids, alot of shitty stuff has happened to me in life, and I NEVER go to church, I think ive been like a couple times in my life, I actually find it really boring, lol but i still believe in god. ive realized that even when bad stuff happens its not gods fault, and he cant control everything that happens, good things happen, and bad things, that's just the way it works...

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