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  • The U Sand rental sander works really well and is very user friendly. You CAN DIY with really excellent results. Re-did my oak floors that had paint splatters and stains all over them.

  • @vegataxkc Right: there are many great machines on the market that make this an easy job.

  • you gotta be kiddin' me!!!! you know the one about bringing a knife to a gun fight???? that floor needs a serious, professional DRUM SANDER and EDGER!!! posting these kind of videos is just misleading people into thinking they can do a pro's job!

  • @ciresharu You may not like it but the results don't lie.

  • @ciresharu

    Never seen so many shit talkers ripping the work of others apart than I have on the subject of floor refinishing. Is it the lack of DOSH enforcement, and respirators that make the self proclaimed "pro's" of the floor refinishing business so hostile?

    Or is it just that you're not really a professional in any sense at all, but just an A-hole with nothing constructive to add other than the label "professional" to various tools?

    Make a video of your own and show us!

  • @mrohida It has nothing to do with his personal effort to fix his floors...that, I applaude... Whtat I don't agree with is posting it as a "how-to" video, giving people the impression that refinishing a wood floor can be something as easy as cleaning your windows. There is a whole industry around floor refinishing for a reason... AGAIN, I have nothing against him trying to refinish his floors, but posting this as an encouragement to others...

  • Yes, try 50 grit. That will get it up. You can also rent a hand-held edger that will scrap it down. Good luck with your project!

  • This worked well for me with a 10 x 10 oak floor that was finished with an older shellac. Now I am working on the edges - I tried an 80grit with a palm sander, but it's not cutting through the shellac. Do I go to a courser grit of sandpaper? What has everyone else used to do the edges? I know I need to go rent the sander machine to take care of the floor under the radiators. Thanks for the video.

  • -Rent a drum/orbital pad sander

    -Don't patch a floor with a 2" piece as it stands out really badly having a 2" strip amongst 14" strips. Plunge cut the old board with a circular saw then get a replacement board and cut the bottom groove portion out then drop it in with polyurethane adhesive. Good as new.

    -Wipe the floor down before staining/polyurethaning with a damp watered cloth/dry tack cloth.

    -Polyurethane cures by interacting with air..covering it just slows the process drastically.

  • are you kidding me? house love is right! that is to much labor for the do it yourselfer of today. correction...36 grit sandpaper is ruff stuff! all of the surface finish/dirt was not removed which could lead to problem if the old and new finishes aren't compatible! sandpaper, finish, hand belt sanders and time is expensive! i suggest finding a professional that will eat the cost of having to redo a floor that is damaged by a botched job!

  • Some people's kids. Why don't you just use a butterfly plainer. 1,000 ft. A day for us old timers.

  • Great job. Thanks for the tips.

  • Who in their right mind sands and refinishes floors with a belt sander? This is ridiculous

  • Great video. Thanks, Ron!

  • MY GOODNESS THIS FLOOR LOOKS LIKE $%#t WHEN HE SANDED IT DOWN. WHO EVER INSTALLED IT SHOULD BE SHOT.

  • have 20 year tarkett engineered hardwood floor with 1/8 inch thick oak. It survived 4 kids and a mini floor around refrigerator from ice maker. Professionals would prefer to rip up floor and replace or charge lots of money refinish. I am not handy at all but want to try and see if I can do myself. There is some warping around frig and lots of dings, furniture marks, (it is in kitchen/family sitting area.) cans dropping etc. Do you suggest refinishing engineered Tarkett?

  • Hey, Great vid.

    I just pulled up carpet in a living room, and its about 300sq ft. the floors are dusty, but in good shape. how many hours did sanding take you? would doing the whole thing by hand be a ridiculous amount do you think?

    or an excuse for me to buy more tools? :-D

  • @rono8582 prep work takes more time than the sanding. I'd estimate that I spent 4-5 hours sanding this floor. 

  • looks like you fixed it, good job in the end

  • wtf...

    

  • Oh, so a "friend" ruined the floor, eh? I think we all know that guy. ;)

    Hey, good idea on the paper on the floor. I was wondering how I was going to handle that (going for pure tung oil personally).

    And anyone know--are drum sanders the same type of handling of a floor buffer? Floor buffers are difficult for the uninitiated, but having served in the army, I have mastered that skill. ;)

  • @VideoMenu Dear Sir.

    the floor sander (buffer) is onyl used for finish sand between coats 150 grit. If you use a more agressive disc (60,80 grit) there will be swirl marks in the floor. I use a Clarke square buff in between coats with 100 ,150 grit screen as it allows you get in to corners and leaves no swirl marks. Very user friendly. Drum sanders are very aggresive and used when the floor is cupped or layered with old finish. It takes a gentle touch when using one. E-mail me for more info.

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  • is that ok if i use velcro hand sander to sand the floor?

    thank you

  • @saheishshan It's got to be a belt sander; otherwise, it will take forever.

  • @werkbook

    thank you!... you are right Sir... getting makita sander 2morrow!

  • Rent a floor sander. Using a belt sander on a wood floor is madness.

  • These floorboards are at least 1/4 " thick -- and yours probably are too. That means there's lots of wood to work with

  • How thick are the strips on a wood floor? Mine is solid oak and 56 years old.

  • Do NOT put alcohol or turpentine on your floor! Use a Tack Cloth. You can't use a drum sander? Neither could Mickey Mouse. ;)

    Also, why no sealer? You used JUST polyurethane?

    "One deep gouge with a drum sander...can't be undone" ? Again, like any tool you need to learn how to use it. Onbe mistake with a table saw and you can't sew your thumb back on. But you don't cut wood with a butter knife, do you?

    

  • @morph1554 > Thank you sir.

  • Best thing to do is to get a Floor Sanding Professional to do the job. I attempted to do my own floor and totally butchered it. Luckily i found a guy through a friend who had his floors done. Did the job and it looks effin fantastic.. . Its almost impossible to hire all the equipment required to do a proper job. No more stuffing up any projects for me, its straight over to the pros

  • My prefinished floors are flaking in spots and when replacing a piece of shoe molding the floor looks thin. Not sure if previous owners had them refinished but I really need an idea how to address the flaking problem and any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

  • would this method work on a sprung wooden floor?

  • A lot of work for such a small machine, you either are unemployed or retired, because you´re gonna need loads of time with that little tool

  • all you need now is a little grease on the floor, and a good ride is certain.

  • I haven't used oscillating sanders, only heard of the usefulness in certain situations (like edging) -- there are many kinds of oscillating sanders and I'm not sure which you are referring to. Orbital and disc sanders are the safest/easiest for light finishing. Drums are necessary for floors that are really torn up. A belt sander is a cousin to a drum sander but hand held so it gives you more control -- that's why I used it on this torn up floor. .

  • I have a floor in one room that has some issues. Can I use a hand-held oscillating tool to sand it? Or should I use a different piece of equipment?

  • graciosa la maquinilla

  • Yes, oscillating sanders are great and do the job in most cases.

    As for staining, it depends on the wood. In my case, I did not stain because the polyurethane darkens the wood to a nice amber shade. I stain floors only when I need to match old wood.

  • ed a belt sander too. But instead of going though a large number of belts loading up I used paint stripper and a drywall blade and and a brass bristle brush and stripped the varnish off the floor. The belt sander did'nt load up and leveled and looked ok. But I had to rent onthose oscillating sanders with 3 seven inch round velcro sand paper. I got it on ebay for $0.31 a disc to make it look like a pro did it with a drum sander.

  • I us . I then finished off the edges with one of those little buzzer oscillating tools that cut sand and do different stuff with the different blades and sanding pads, the triangle like pads. I now have to decide stain or natural and clear minwax fast dry or stain a color. So before I coat it, will the natural oak (blonde) wood look good or should I stain it?? replies are needed and welcome.

  • to much work. thats just crazy to use a belt sander......

  • Is too slow,you are out of business!!!!!!!!!

  • @cloverfield36 he shows the proper way to do it .. and it all makes sense.. BUT you can always cut corners to stay in business :)

    excellent video!!!!!!!!

  • This is a very helpful video. I have a wood floor for a 16x16 living room in a fairly aged farm house. Our family was oblivious to properly caring for this wood floor and how to clean it. Was in somewhat decent shape at first.. but now it looks like doo doo after 2 years of high traffic use. I'll be doing this to our floor soon and being that much more caring to it.

  • It's not unreasonable to use a belt sander for a large space; it's just a lot of work. But I understand your hesitation to use a drum sander -- they are big, powerful, and hard to handle. One deep gouge with a drum sander and it can't be undone. That's why so many DIYers use a belt sander. A friend of mine did his living room and dining room with a hand-held belt sander.

  • @werkbook thanks for your reply , I think thats how I will attempt it too

  • I see you recommend an orbital sander for floors that arent too bad . I went looking to rent a sander 2day as Im getting ready to tackle my hardwood , and was told to use a drum sander . Im scared of using those big things lol . Is it unreasonable to think I could do living/dining room with a hand sander ?

  • two words...dust mask

  • Could I use Pure Turpentine in place of rubbing alcohol?

  • @themomo6710

    Sure.

  • @werkbook I realized that it has a strong smell, you don't wont to use that stuff!

  • @werkbook Thanks for responding.

    I have about 800 sq ft to do. Would you recommend a roller for the stain? What other methods are there for staining/finish coating? I have a large area to do and I hope I do not have to do it all by hand and brush. I have about 7 weeks before I move in and really need to get it done.

    I have never done this before and I was told a belt sander is better than a drum sander for beginners.

    I appreciate the response.

  • @Mauhadeeb28

    1) Yes, use a roller for large areas. (I don't recommend rollers for small areas.) There are specially made rollers for stain and polyurethane.

    2) Use an orbital sander, NOT a drum sander, for large areas.

    3) You need a drum sander ONLY if the floor is really marred up and needs to be sanded down significantly. In that case, call in a pro to do it.

    4) An orbital sander will take off the old coating and give you a smooth finish.

    Follow the video for the rest. Good luck!

  • @Mauhadeeb28 Wow. Thank you so much. This was a great help.

  • great video mate

  • Could I use a roller for the Polyurethane?

  • Thank you so much for your helpful and concise video. I'm moving to an apartment whose hardwood floors are incredibly damaged and splintered. Although i won't be doing the repair myself, I now know what the process behind fixing the floors will be. Very educational, thumbs up!

  • How do I add this to my favorites?

  • im using a stripper type gel to strip the varnish fro mmy floors as advised from home depot staff... i was traring sand paper from the floor sander left and right and they said the varnish was the prolem... should i sand after applying the chemical gel stripper?

  • @booe1973 If you have chemically stripped the wood, wipe it clean with rubbing alcohol to make sure you get up everything. Then make sure it dries. Then try sanding (orbital sander) with 100 grit. Then move up to a higher grade sandpaper. Good luck.

  • fine fo a small area

  • Thanks for posting this video. My husband and I are getting ready to do hand sand our floors with a belt sander tomorrow. We're a little nervous so it was great actually watching you do it on video. And as far as hiring a professional @4.99 sq foot...no thanks! I'm sure we'll do a better job anyway.

  • Good luck with your project!

  • I'm re-doing some wood floors on my rental. pulled up the carpet and am trying to save the floors. No big gouges.

    excellent video, you are working with the same tools that I have.

    Glad to see that it can be done without having to use professional machines.

    I prefer doing it myself for two reason:

    1)budget - just can't afford to hire someone

    2) bragging rights - when someone asks who did it, I can say me.

    Thanks again

    TC

  • admire the effort.  I just hope few think this is actually how to refinish a hardwood floor. There's no way to match the results of a professional job without a lot of experience with professional tools designed for this type of work. If he had actually done what it takes to achieve professional results, he'd probably also say it's just not worth it, and would suggest hiring a professional. But attempting to refinish a hardwood floor seems to be one of those things everyone needs to try once

  • Dear Ron,

    I will also be using a belt sander similar to the one in ur video in the next week or so to restore my brother's cypress pine floor. I was wondering did you also use the belt sander with 110 grit paper to finish the surface? Also, did you lightly sand after each coat of poly or after applying the second coat...and did you then apply also a third coat? What abt 'buffing' the floor using an orbital sander & finer sandpaper...do you think the floor would benefit from this? Cheers Steven.

  • Gr8 vid...but it's more expensive to rent/buy the machines/matls. It's cheaper to hire professional to do the job in a day. No mess & great job.

  • I prefer to do the work myself. But, if you can find a pro you can trust and you can afford it and you'd rather not deal with the hassle--sure let the pro do the work!

  • @werkbook Yes..I did a decorating job in my flat to let/discovered the Victorian pine floor hiding in carpet. I wanted to do it myself but changed my mind coz I saved £150 from a professional. Machine rental is too expensive in London. The result was great & I learned a lot from them.

  • u need to have a professional floor sander to fixs, u can't sand a floor with a little belt sander the drum sanders and easy to run !!!!!!!!!!!!

  • But I did use a belt sander and it worked great! Also did my old porch floor. Again, it worked great. You have go slow and steady, tho.

    That said, an orbital sander would do the job. I wouldn't use a drum in that small a space.

  • xrocafelladymex has made a comment on How to Sand and Save a Wood Floor:

    Great video! I have a question, and was hoping someone could help! How should I sand hardwood floor that has a sort of basket weave to it? It kind of looks like this (II=), only that it's a square. Two piecesof wood are in one direction, and the other two pieces of wood are in another direction? How can I not go against the grain?? Thanks in advance!

  • Hi: you need an orbital sander. These are easy to operate and it doesn't matter which way you move the sander. Your local rental store will have one (and probably somebody who can tell you how to run it). Good luck with your project. Ron

  • what is the name of the stuff you were patching up the holes with ?

  • I use DAP or whatever else I find on the shelf. It's premixed wood fill ("plastic wood"). Do NOT get resin--the stuff that demands you mix a tube of hardener with filler.

  • great video, also great beard! haha. im in the process of doing both

  • how to do you take out a layer of polyurethane ?

  • Sand it. If you just want to go down one layer. use a light sand paper, like 220. There is also "screening," which is a meshlike material that acts like sandpaper and can be attached to a buffer-like machine. But I've never use one.

  • Ron is the man!!! Great vid.

  • very very good video... thanks for this.

  • thanks! great video

  • haha lol.

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