Now one thing he failed to mention is the torque effect: every single engine aircraft is gonna have a tendency to drift to the left during take-off, so you correct that with some slight right rudder.
Hey Joe from Family guy, I mean guy from Expert Village, flaps are only used on soft or short field takeoffs, and you'd have to be pretty drunk to rotate at 70 knots. And 85 knots is pretty much a cruising speed for a 172. In reality, a 172 would climb out at either Vy or Vx which is between 60 & 70 knots for this type of aircraft. Lets get real here...
@TheFsReview I am a pilot with over 200 hours in a cessna 172. Best rate of climb in a standard equipped 172 is between 67 and 79 KIAS. And flaps are not recommended to be used on regular takeoffs.
Wait a minute. You're telling me that I should rotate a C172 at 70 knots? Are you fucking kidding me? By 70 knots, I'm already airborne and on my way to go have a $100 hamburger, for fuck's sake!
55-60 knots is your usual rotation speed, not 70! Dumbass.
with all due respect sir - you need to get your numbers right. if you do some research and get these numbers right im sure a lot more people will appreciate your videos since you seem to be a very nice person anyway.
and never force an aircraft off the runway, set your flaps, get up to the optimum speed, pull slightly back and let the aircraft lift itself off the runway, if you force it up you might stall or fall back onto the runway
...wil affect landing and take off performance of this aircraft...? eeerhm.... it affects ALL aicraft´s plus you must consider: runway condition, airfield altitude, aircraft weight, weather condition, wind direction and speed, temperature and alot of other things, there is no standard take off & landing length, the landing and take off length published by the aircraft manufactere is under optimal conditions
@The12rspc Also, it's all about keeping the same air-fuel ratio. As you go higher, air density lowers. So automatically, you need to reduce the amount of fuel you put in or your fuel-air mixture will be too rich. On constant speed props, you have to check the manifold pressure instead of the RPM gauge because the RPM is constant. As you descend, you should do the opposite and don't forget to enrichen your mixture or your engine might cut off due to the lack of fuel. Lean abve 3000 feet MSL
@The12rspc That pilot doesn't know how to lean his mixture. There's abosolutely no danger leaning your mixture when you know how to. When leaning too much, there should be a drop in RPM. So, all you have to do is make it richer untill the rpm was at it's peak and slightly more to keep it on the rich side. The engine won't suddenly shut-off. Also, by leaning, you get a better engine performance at higher alt, and better fuel economy. Try flying a plane at 10'000 feet MSL with 90-100% impossible
@ruud987654321 That could be a perfectly fine option as mixture setting is dependent on atmospheric density, or more generally, altitude. The Flight Manual for a 172SP series recommends fully rich unless smoother operation can be gained from a leaned setting.
@ruud987654321 if he's at an airfield at MSL he wouldn't have any problem... Now, it goes way too different if you try to take-off at an elevation of 4, 5 or 6000 feet because of the density of the air is quite lower, so the engine requires a difft mixture to perform correctly. ; )
Mom: So son whats you new job? Dixon: Oh im a pilot mom. Brother: LOL your a douche bag on youtube who teaches people how to fly fake computer planes!!!
Nice video. I would suggest a good habit if you want to fly real aircraft is to keep your hand on the throttle until TPA (about 1000 agl). I developed the habit of taking my hand off the throttle in FSX and it was hard to unlearn.
@expertvillage - what you have talked about in the video is WHAT to do, not HOW to do it, like your title suggests. I want to know HOW I can achieve what you have said using controls in Flight Simulator.
this game is shit, it has no introduction and shit, I know nothing about flying so I cant play this game because it doesnt have a proper intruction guide.
On soft field runways you pull the yoke (smoothly) all the way back as soon as you add full power, and for short fields you actually rotate at 50 kts, climb at 56 kts...oh whatever, just watch my tutorial.
and you will clog up your magnetos if you taxi with the mixture full, you want to lean it out before taxiing, and put it to full rich before takeoff, unless at above 3000 feet elevation. At least he did get one thing right.
Isn't that why, in your run ups you run 1700rpm then check the mags.. If they're 'clogged' or if one is 'clogged' set to BOTH, run up 2100rpm for 10 secs then try again, should be fine. I wouldn't recommend taxiing at anything other than full rich
There is no set precedent for leaning out the mixture for taxiing. My first CFI never told me to do it. My instrument CFII introduced me to it, and this guy is a stickler for details, I swear he sleeps with his FAR/AIM under his pillow.
Leaning the mixture is one of those good things to do, and I do it all the time, especially if idling for a long time. Like awaiting your IFR clearance.
BTW, the POH in front of me says the runup is done at 1800 RPMs in a 172SP/G1000, the POH for the 172N says it is 1700. So like with everything in aviation, all we have to do is look up the POH.
You know, I hadn't flown for 10 years before this April 2009, so I grew up flying the 1970's Cessnas. Once you said 1700 RPM, I knew that was true for the older versions. So you are absolutely correct.
I like the galss cockpits, but the 172N's (1979) are about half the price of the new G1000 (renting them). I really wish the place I rent from had an older one, I could get a lot more of my IFR training done.
Plus I'm a sttickler for learning to fly the proper way, with vacuum gauges.
I am currently learning to fly and ask for the traditional cockpit as the glass cockpit just feels wrong somehow - also there is more chance of chasing the gauges if you are in a glass cockpit when you should be looking out of the window most of the time.
If you are learning to fly, you really should learn in an older airplane, even ones without GPS. You can jump from a gauge cockpit right into the glass cockpit, but it isn't as easy the other way around.
Two biggest differences are that the information is really simplified and bundled up together for you in a glass cockpit, and with gauges you actually have to keep a gauge to gauge scan going yourself.
And second, some of the gauges have a 1-2 second lag in then, so you HAVE to think ahead.
Thanks - yes I do not look forward to when I get to do recovery from spins and have to work out what is going on looking out of the window.
Fortunately the training manuals here in England are all based on traditional cockpits - my desire to fly has been there for some thirty years so for me it it feels like 'coming home' being in a traditional cockpit.
Thats not what I was told. When I rotated at 70 knots, my 172 instructors got mad at me "get up Bill!". They later told me to rotate at 50knts, not 70.
This is really bad. I just flew today 1.7 hours. what about wind? crosswind component?. pattern height? He says go to 3,000 feet? what if the airport''s at 5,000 !!. You tube can be helpful, but this one is NOT. "expert village" my a.....
GunshipHarry, remember that in the Realism settings, there are two options: "Indicated Airspeed" and "True Airspeed". Indicated Airspeed is generally faster than true. They differ.
No!!! Rotate at 65 Knots! Who is this guy and where is he getting this information from? He really needs to take some real lessons as he's getting it all wrong and imparting the wrong information. If you are learning to fly for real avoid this tutorial like the plague!
yall serious? my flight instructor says rotate at 55 kn. the flight school is a cessna service center. the manuals for the 172 also say 55 kn for 0 flap
rotate at 70 knots? wow way off, a Cessna 172 Vr speed is like 55 knots. and if you have a good runway you don't even need flaps, mostly for short field and soft field takes offs.
Lol, today I was flying from Philadelphia Intl (KPHL) to Orlando Intl (KMCO) on full realism (including normal speed the entire time) because I normally fly on medium realism and just as my Boeing 747 was lined up with the runway in Orlando, my joystick stopped working and the 747 crashed. Imagine how frustrated I got.
yeah i dont like expert village its all a load of crap in my opinion. i am a flight student. i lift off at 55 knots and clime at 65 knots. and i pitch level out at 1800ft. my airport is 1111ft.
Yeah he is wayyyy too fast. I fly a 182, and I pull back with no flaps at 75. I dont know what the purpose of using flaps are if this guy takes off at 70. You can get airborne at 45 in ground effect with a 172 with 30 flaps. Your pitch level is off though. You dont climb that steeply. Even the high performance 182 I fly only does 1400 with me in it.
dude ur a dumbass u think 2 knots is that big of a difference? all i know is i passed my checkride and i nailed all my shortfield and softfield takeoffs and landings within pts (which for my plane is rotate at 55 for shortfield and normal)
Im not sure a cessna 172 can rotate successfully at 55 maybe 57. A cessna 152 can 54 is its Vx speed, so on short field takeoffs you rotate at 54 and then set your climb to 55 to 60 then when you clear the obstacle you go to 80 knot climb. Cessna 172s usually have higher speeds by a few knots depending on the model SP/P/M/etc
Where did you come up with that 70kt rotation speed?
I am PPL and I fly C172s (S/P/RGII).
The rotation speed is 55 (that's when you lift your nose up) and wait untill you start climbing. the plane is very hard to control on the ground at 70 kt.
i did, but didn't help at all. All i understood was that it means it's the average sea level corrected for waves. Like they get they hight of all the waves, and average it out. BUT waves can only go up to 4, 8 10, or max 20 if there is a Tsunami lol. so why care about a couple of feet, if that's what it is?
your totally right dude. I just asked my flight instructer, and he said it's the tides. Tides are the effects of moon gravitational forces pulling one part of the Earth's oceans up, and higer, so the other side is lower. So it's averaged out for TIDES.
The standard Vr is 55 knots, and Vy (best rate of climb) is 74 knots at which you normally climb at 10 degrees of pitch. For a Cessna 172SP, which I fly.
lol rotate is 55 kts not 70.
WNSceneryDesigns 4 weeks ago
Now one thing he failed to mention is the torque effect: every single engine aircraft is gonna have a tendency to drift to the left during take-off, so you correct that with some slight right rudder.
MercedesKawasaki 2 months ago
I'm already at 1500ft at fucking 70 knots...
AAL284 4 months ago
hi my name is dicks in july
xxxsnipe400xxx 4 months ago
Hey Joe from Family guy, I mean guy from Expert Village, flaps are only used on soft or short field takeoffs, and you'd have to be pretty drunk to rotate at 70 knots. And 85 knots is pretty much a cruising speed for a 172. In reality, a 172 would climb out at either Vy or Vx which is between 60 & 70 knots for this type of aircraft. Lets get real here...
PilotDJ192 7 months ago 5
@PilotDJ192 flaps can be used in regular take-offs, however they arent required.
best rate of climb speed is between 75-80 knots. curise is 100 knots in the 172.
TheFsReview 7 months ago
@TheFsReview I am a pilot with over 200 hours in a cessna 172. Best rate of climb in a standard equipped 172 is between 67 and 79 KIAS. And flaps are not recommended to be used on regular takeoffs.
PilotDJ192 7 months ago
Wait a minute. You're telling me that I should rotate a C172 at 70 knots? Are you fucking kidding me? By 70 knots, I'm already airborne and on my way to go have a $100 hamburger, for fuck's sake!
55-60 knots is your usual rotation speed, not 70! Dumbass.
TheCriticalCanadian 8 months ago 5
There is more to flaps on takeoff than just reducing takeoff distance.
flyboy3771 9 months ago
excelente !
TheAvigdor 10 months ago
Dicks in July !?
ZkPlrkpE 10 months ago
*cough cough* Uhm.. 55 knots there buddy.
airman193 10 months ago
with all due respect sir - you need to get your numbers right. if you do some research and get these numbers right im sure a lot more people will appreciate your videos since you seem to be a very nice person anyway.
WildPilot300 11 months ago
Since when is the rotation speed of a C172 70 kts flapless? Let alone with flap!
z120p 11 months ago
and never force an aircraft off the runway, set your flaps, get up to the optimum speed, pull slightly back and let the aircraft lift itself off the runway, if you force it up you might stall or fall back onto the runway
bmbpdk 11 months ago
...wil affect landing and take off performance of this aircraft...? eeerhm.... it affects ALL aicraft´s plus you must consider: runway condition, airfield altitude, aircraft weight, weather condition, wind direction and speed, temperature and alot of other things, there is no standard take off & landing length, the landing and take off length published by the aircraft manufactere is under optimal conditions
bmbpdk 11 months ago
haha lol at the end when dicks in july stop speaking. if you heard it then like this comment
Deltapilot96 1 year ago
hahaha listen in the end when dicks in july stops speaking. lol thumbs up if you found it
Deltapilot96 1 year ago
Je comprend rien ><
Tom67666 1 year ago
to short
MrGeophil 1 year ago
@The12rspc Also, it's all about keeping the same air-fuel ratio. As you go higher, air density lowers. So automatically, you need to reduce the amount of fuel you put in or your fuel-air mixture will be too rich. On constant speed props, you have to check the manifold pressure instead of the RPM gauge because the RPM is constant. As you descend, you should do the opposite and don't forget to enrichen your mixture or your engine might cut off due to the lack of fuel. Lean abve 3000 feet MSL
AdamDesjardins 1 year ago
@The12rspc That pilot doesn't know how to lean his mixture. There's abosolutely no danger leaning your mixture when you know how to. When leaning too much, there should be a drop in RPM. So, all you have to do is make it richer untill the rpm was at it's peak and slightly more to keep it on the rich side. The engine won't suddenly shut-off. Also, by leaning, you get a better engine performance at higher alt, and better fuel economy. Try flying a plane at 10'000 feet MSL with 90-100% impossible
AdamDesjardins 1 year ago
OMG this guy doesn't know anything I would love to watch him take off a Cessna 172 Skyhawk with fuel fully rich!!!
ruud987654321 1 year ago
@ruud987654321 That could be a perfectly fine option as mixture setting is dependent on atmospheric density, or more generally, altitude. The Flight Manual for a 172SP series recommends fully rich unless smoother operation can be gained from a leaned setting.
Jazzy78910 1 year ago 3
But, yes, I agree, this guy doesn't know what he's talking about.
Jazzy78910 1 year ago 2
@ruud987654321 if he's at an airfield at MSL he wouldn't have any problem... Now, it goes way too different if you try to take-off at an elevation of 4, 5 or 6000 feet because of the density of the air is quite lower, so the engine requires a difft mixture to perform correctly. ; )
oswaldobautista 1 year ago
dicks in juliet?
BlGGlE 1 year ago
dicks in july
Mazkuuuu 1 year ago 3
No flaps buddy
737Pilot122 1 year ago
how do I download this game
sanjaicollzz 1 year ago
@sanjaicollzz search pirate bay for it, down the one has the highest seed
first download utorrent
watarball 1 year ago
@sanjaicollzz
its payware
waddoo1234 1 year ago
@sanjaicollzz Search on Google: Microsoft Flight Simulator X =)
PlaTinuMxFlaVa 1 year ago
bagaimana cara saya mendownload permainan ini
sanjaicollzz 1 year ago
Mom: So son whats you new job? Dixon: Oh im a pilot mom. Brother: LOL your a douche bag on youtube who teaches people how to fly fake computer planes!!!
AmericanGi370 1 year ago
زادكم اللع علما
WASELIZE 1 year ago
Nice video. I would suggest a good habit if you want to fly real aircraft is to keep your hand on the throttle until TPA (about 1000 agl). I developed the habit of taking my hand off the throttle in FSX and it was hard to unlearn.
N8229Y 1 year ago
His wanna be magic man bullshit makes me want to kick him in the ass haha what a crack this one 5/5 for trying
Shudder51 1 year ago
@expertvillage - what you have talked about in the video is WHAT to do, not HOW to do it, like your title suggests. I want to know HOW I can achieve what you have said using controls in Flight Simulator.
ketankshukla 1 year ago
how u put the small menu bar on top of the screen? were u can see the options
andyskateboarder 1 year ago
@andyskateboarder
Right click, click on "Hide menu bar" It is checked by deault, un-checking it will give you the bar at the top.
CubesForAKid 1 year ago
Cessna also recommends not using flaps in the P.O.H
JumpStartation 1 year ago
can you buy this game from the internet???
BRBSHUTUPNOOB 1 year ago
@BRBSHUTUPNOOB no
trdaredevilclips 1 year ago
this game is shit, it has no introduction and shit, I know nothing about flying so I cant play this game because it doesnt have a proper intruction guide.
fgcarva1 1 year ago
@fgcarva1 err did you ever go the get me flying? in the lessons?
atifrc 1 year ago
@atifrc I only have the demo, so it disables the lessons...
fgcarva1 1 year ago
@fgcarva1 lol, buy the game and it teaches you how to fly.
BLUE1PIE 1 year ago
@fgcarva1 you do know this isnt a game...
its called a simulator as the name said... Flight SIMULATOR X
zeejenkins 1 year ago
@zeejenkins damn son, I am sorry, well, I got used to it now, pretty good. I was frustrated before but I am getting better.
fgcarva1 1 year ago
@fgcarva1 there called tutorials in the missions page.
trdaredevilclips 1 year ago
his name comes from his dick but with xon so he proberly had 2 dick
sachinkambadur 1 year ago
once you see him, once you don't... looks like a ghost...
TheBlackbird 2 years ago 27
Dixon like something hard in his moutH@!
leafyism 2 years ago 13
@leafyism HAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yournameiswrong 1 year ago
can you open the windows -not doors-?
snooppupc130jrketmas 2 years ago
no, im truly sorry
SpartanW98 1 year ago
C-172R Max Performance Takeoff:
-Flaps set to 10 degrees
-Line up on the runway using full length
-Hold on the brakes
-Apply full power
-Release the brakes and maintain slight back pressure on the yoke to extend the nose oleo
-Rotate at 51 KIAS if not airborne prior
-Climb at 57 KIAS to your obstacle clearance height
-Lower the nose slightly and retract the flaps through 60-65 KIAS
-Climb at 79 KIAS until clear of the aerodrome circuit, then cruise climb between 90 and 100 KIAS.
Whitehawk180k 2 years ago
Rotate at 55kt, not 70kt. More information could be provided. Like checklists, run up, lights...not a complete tutorial.
FrancoCuriel 2 years ago
What you do is Full throttle for take off down on the joystick ! fly around doin whatever then no Throttle and forward on the joysstick !! SIMPLES!
tym2p00n 2 years ago
FSX has good graphics and all but the handling of the aircraft is still unrealistic. More focus and aircraft handling less focus on graphics.
robloxguggi 2 years ago
are they stupid:
It's 65 KTS nose up 7.5,
2 nose up, 75 KTS reduce speed to 2575 RPM.
Then TRIMM.
Horizontal,
20 feet before achieving the right altitude, nose down 3 nose down95 kts speed 2300 trimm
Earnsomecash 2 years ago
OMFG people this a simulator/game these guy treat it like its real life!
BoeingsAreTheBests 2 years ago
you do know they use similar simulators to this game to train in flying.
speedingcamel 2 years ago
On soft field runways you pull the yoke (smoothly) all the way back as soon as you add full power, and for short fields you actually rotate at 50 kts, climb at 56 kts...oh whatever, just watch my tutorial.
FSX404 2 years ago
Just watch my videos, for God's sake at least I don't pop up every 2 seconds distracting you from what your supposed to be doing.
FSX404 2 years ago
The POH of a C-172SP says the rotation speed is 55 kts for a standard takeoff.
If doing other kinds of takeoffs rotation speed varies.
FSX404 2 years ago
and you will clog up your magnetos if you taxi with the mixture full, you want to lean it out before taxiing, and put it to full rich before takeoff, unless at above 3000 feet elevation. At least he did get one thing right.
FSX404 2 years ago
Isn't that why, in your run ups you run 1700rpm then check the mags.. If they're 'clogged' or if one is 'clogged' set to BOTH, run up 2100rpm for 10 secs then try again, should be fine. I wouldn't recommend taxiing at anything other than full rich
ellzyss 2 years ago
There is no set precedent for leaning out the mixture for taxiing. My first CFI never told me to do it. My instrument CFII introduced me to it, and this guy is a stickler for details, I swear he sleeps with his FAR/AIM under his pillow.
Leaning the mixture is one of those good things to do, and I do it all the time, especially if idling for a long time. Like awaiting your IFR clearance.
FSX404 2 years ago
BTW, the POH in front of me says the runup is done at 1800 RPMs in a 172SP/G1000, the POH for the 172N says it is 1700. So like with everything in aviation, all we have to do is look up the POH.
FSX404 2 years ago
True, I've never been privy to a glass cockpit so I haven't seen that POH. Thanks for the info
ellzyss 2 years ago
You know, I hadn't flown for 10 years before this April 2009, so I grew up flying the 1970's Cessnas. Once you said 1700 RPM, I knew that was true for the older versions. So you are absolutely correct.
I like the galss cockpits, but the 172N's (1979) are about half the price of the new G1000 (renting them). I really wish the place I rent from had an older one, I could get a lot more of my IFR training done.
Plus I'm a sttickler for learning to fly the proper way, with vacuum gauges.
FSX404 2 years ago
I fully agree with you on traditional cockpits.
I am currently learning to fly and ask for the traditional cockpit as the glass cockpit just feels wrong somehow - also there is more chance of chasing the gauges if you are in a glass cockpit when you should be looking out of the window most of the time.
jagara1 2 years ago
If you are learning to fly, you really should learn in an older airplane, even ones without GPS. You can jump from a gauge cockpit right into the glass cockpit, but it isn't as easy the other way around.
Two biggest differences are that the information is really simplified and bundled up together for you in a glass cockpit, and with gauges you actually have to keep a gauge to gauge scan going yourself.
And second, some of the gauges have a 1-2 second lag in then, so you HAVE to think ahead.
FSX404 2 years ago
Thanks - yes I do not look forward to when I get to do recovery from spins and have to work out what is going on looking out of the window.
Fortunately the training manuals here in England are all based on traditional cockpits - my desire to fly has been there for some thirty years so for me it it feels like 'coming home' being in a traditional cockpit.
jagara1 2 years ago
rotation speed in a cessna 172 is 55 knots, not 70.
venturi117 2 years ago
has this guy gone crazy?? dude u should do the flying lessons in fsx man...
70 knots for takeoff wtf??
jancam555 2 years ago
55knots and the nose comes up. 75 knots it a good climb out speed
PilotAdo 2 years ago
Look at the aircraft manual always before doing anything. :-)
AnnelieGallery 2 years ago
They told me to rotate at 50-55knts, zero flaps. I later did what they said. The CFI complemented me for a good take-off and a good climb-out.
br76892 2 years ago
Thats not what I was told. When I rotated at 70 knots, my 172 instructors got mad at me "get up Bill!". They later told me to rotate at 50knts, not 70.
br76892 2 years ago
yeah, they seem to be tricking us, if you look carefully he lifts of at about 50kts too.
Ben123planes 2 years ago
horrible!
dgunnerz1 2 years ago
55 for me -_-
muppetgun 2 years ago
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natev85 2 years ago
wait till you reach 70 knots???? Dude I own a 172 R model, and I sure as hell dont' lift off at 70 knots.. I ease back on the yoke at 55 knots
ysflightman 2 years ago
my instructor tells me 60 knots
hkiller57 2 years ago
55-60 works, but 70 is OVERKILL!!!
ysflightman 2 years ago
Hi ysflightman,
What is a 172R? Is that the Cutlass 172RG?
Cheers
Bill
br76892 2 years ago
No... just 172R.. you know hte R model? more Hp... gjoing from 140 to 160 Hp?
ysflightman 2 years ago
Why do you guys watch the vid's if you know it all already? Amazing how angry folks are in YouTubeland.
kiddoshea 2 years ago
This is really bad. I just flew today 1.7 hours. what about wind? crosswind component?. pattern height? He says go to 3,000 feet? what if the airport''s at 5,000 !!. You tube can be helpful, but this one is NOT. "expert village" my a.....
lightcatcher3 2 years ago
Yes, all vids by this guy sucks.
Pvjinflight 2 years ago 2
you are right
seidelsandmann 2 years ago
yeah man you are right this guy's vids suck
adamgamedude 2 years ago
hmmm no rudder right on take off. I SENSE LOW REALISM!!
StuartRedman1 2 years ago
GunshipHarry, remember that in the Realism settings, there are two options: "Indicated Airspeed" and "True Airspeed". Indicated Airspeed is generally faster than true. They differ.
x0Recon0x 2 years ago
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ellzyss 2 years ago
Dose it realy matter if its off by 5 knots.. lets be honest
dzill2 2 years ago
No!!! Rotate at 65 Knots! Who is this guy and where is he getting this information from? He really needs to take some real lessons as he's getting it all wrong and imparting the wrong information. If you are learning to fly for real avoid this tutorial like the plague!
GunshipHarry 2 years ago
yall serious? my flight instructor says rotate at 55 kn. the flight school is a cessna service center. the manuals for the 172 also say 55 kn for 0 flap
paranoidandroid1995 2 years ago
itsdiff for diff type of aircraft. We take off about 60-65knots on c172
leon6266 2 years ago
lol just full speed =D not 70 knots but 120 knost
akaboy4life 2 years ago
wow this is a terrible tutorial i mean you cant tell anyone how to fly everyone flys diffrent but i mean this is terrible.
meigs68 2 years ago 3
this is so poorly done. who takes off in a Cessna 172 at 70 knots?
poor quality is the result of the random cough at the end.
watch the landing tutorial and tell me this guy does a good job at teaching.
guy014 2 years ago
you take off at 55knots
carlSkatesEnjoi 2 years ago
I had my first flight lesson today and my instructor said that it's about 65 kts in a 172
ledzepallthewayftw 2 years ago
what is this? are you a mad man?
mkuki2000 2 years ago
for climb keep it at 1st setting, onse youve reaches crusing altitude flaps goes up
umahuma4 3 years ago
do u HAVE to have a joystick to play this
andyp165 3 years ago
no but a joystick makes it more fun
thriftyh4xx 3 years ago
thats what she said
DunderMifflinpeople 3 years ago
haha that was a good one im still laughing
Usain23Bolt 3 years ago
hahahha the ending 1:59 hear that sound?
NKCrime 3 years ago
haha,guy barking
jesterv2 3 years ago
rotate at 70 knots? wow way off, a Cessna 172 Vr speed is like 55 knots. and if you have a good runway you don't even need flaps, mostly for short field and soft field takes offs.
KINGDANIEL000 3 years ago
its 60 knots
wannabepilot22 3 years ago
pff, care about all those numbers, u can fly, land, take-off with only looking at the horizon if u know what to do
kniffa 3 years ago
wft are you on about......its a simulator get a fucking life.....we dont need you goin onabout how to fly a cessna!!!!!!!
wnaker
rsGregrs 3 years ago
the fuck is he on about
a C172 R model rotates at 55 KIAS and climbs at 79knots
soseg 3 years ago
Just something funny that happened to me today:
Lol, today I was flying from Philadelphia Intl (KPHL) to Orlando Intl (KMCO) on full realism (including normal speed the entire time) because I normally fly on medium realism and just as my Boeing 747 was lined up with the runway in Orlando, my joystick stopped working and the 747 crashed. Imagine how frustrated I got.
Kirbydude35 3 years ago
shoulda paused XD
CtrlBotCentral 3 years ago
takeoff is realy 75 kias
HPandSteve 3 years ago
20F - MSG me on MSN. ID is in my profile. i
carlita2885 3 years ago
yeah i dont like expert village its all a load of crap in my opinion. i am a flight student. i lift off at 55 knots and clime at 65 knots. and i pitch level out at 1800ft. my airport is 1111ft.
britarthc 3 years ago
Yeah he is wayyyy too fast. I fly a 182, and I pull back with no flaps at 75. I dont know what the purpose of using flaps are if this guy takes off at 70. You can get airborne at 45 in ground effect with a 172 with 30 flaps. Your pitch level is off though. You dont climb that steeply. Even the high performance 182 I fly only does 1400 with me in it.
Transam941 3 years ago
You said pull back on the stick at 70 knots in the 172...By doing this, you are looking for truble on the ground.
You sould lift the nose wheel at 55 knots and let the airplane fly off the runway.
If you are not going to give proper instruction.... DO NOT GIVE IT AT ALL...
G I V E M E A B R E A K .....
Enfeffer 3 years ago
ok wow i fly the cessna 172 and ur suppose to take-off at 70-85 knots wow go learn to fly a cessna 172 and then comment.
theblackbladestv 3 years ago
dude ur a dumbass u think 2 knots is that big of a difference? all i know is i passed my checkride and i nailed all my shortfield and softfield takeoffs and landings within pts (which for my plane is rotate at 55 for shortfield and normal)
sscobalt815 3 years ago
the cessnas i fly rotate at 55 and climb out at 76 untill 500' then climb at 80-85
sscobalt815 3 years ago
not being a jerk
the cessna 172M i fly roatates at ~65 and climbs at 75-85
slugger9203 3 years ago
Im not sure a cessna 172 can rotate successfully at 55 maybe 57. A cessna 152 can 54 is its Vx speed, so on short field takeoffs you rotate at 54 and then set your climb to 55 to 60 then when you clear the obstacle you go to 80 knot climb. Cessna 172s usually have higher speeds by a few knots depending on the model SP/P/M/etc
NVP2190 3 years ago
MPH or Knots? This guy talks about knots!
mpereznoble 3 years ago
yea the 172 is mesured in knots not mph
Jacobdead 3 years ago
yea dont know what world u live on its all knots in aviation haha
soseg 3 years ago
Thats not completely true, the 172 may use knots but there are many airplanes that use mph instead of knots
usernameavailable152 3 years ago
maybe some aircraft were designed to operate in mph but the fact is i said that aviation internationally uses knots
u cant argue against that
lots of airspace procedures etc are all in knots, nothing in mph as far as i know where ive flown
an old planes manual may be written in mph but ude have to convert it when trying to say follow airspeed restrictions etc
soseg 3 years ago
Yeah I agree with you there. I just interpreted your first post wrong.
usernameavailable152 3 years ago
thats right
I AM ALWAYS RIGHT!
FEAR ME!
soseg 3 years ago
yeah the Cessna 172M I fly in (it's from 1973) has an ASI in mph.
slugger9203 3 years ago
umm...actually, i usually just get on the runway, set the flaps and full throttle...who cares about the mixtures
NCdrummerXC112 3 years ago
Try taking off from a short runway at 9000' elevation and you'll care about the mixture.
RockMancuso 3 years ago 4
idk why you got a thumbs down. i will give you a thumbs up to get back to 0 lol
In my pilot training DVDs, it says to change the mixture at/above 3,000 feet MSL. if the airport is at 9000 MSL, then you would change it.
NCDrummer, you must suck :P
slugger9203 3 years ago
At 9000ft, i think that a take off with MTOW would be nearly imposible, and if you dont adjust your mixture, it wouldnt even start up.
mpereznoble 3 years ago
Then you've been a lucky man so far, just stay away from Southern California OK
FSX404 2 years ago
wow crap..
64747907 3 years ago
he is talking about the sim default cessna
real cessnas and better programmed addons have different best to fly datas
like in real life - planes of the same typ are different in detail- handbooks refer to that
usernogo 3 years ago
jesus christ....get it on the runway and pound the throttle in..
thats a lot of instruction for a video game
if you crash you can start over
OrangeSFO 3 years ago
have you play this buddy? This game is nothing but easy, and pounding the throttle gets you no where.
kwark1223 3 years ago 2
i play it and thts basically wat i do. set flaps to 10 and i hold the brake in and go 100 percent. then i let off and go. not tht hard
coolman17701 3 years ago
you have the speeds wrong. i actually fly c172's and you rotate at about 55 knots. you CLIMB at 70 knots not rotate at 70 knots
tigersaysrawr 3 years ago
This game looks really complicated.
robinheil 3 years ago
Where did you come up with that 70kt rotation speed?
I am PPL and I fly C172s (S/P/RGII).
The rotation speed is 55 (that's when you lift your nose up) and wait untill you start climbing. the plane is very hard to control on the ground at 70 kt.
armanys2003 3 years ago
Hey knucklehead, you let the nose come up at 65 and it will fly itself off. you maintain 70 for the climb. Who is this guy!?
homerboy488 3 years ago
bitch go to hell
teenscape88 3 years ago
I wonder if he has ever flown a Cessna 172?
Wait, he's still alive so I doubt it
Tomtheflyboy 3 years ago
*tumble weed & crickets*
jayeveringham 3 years ago
LOL
apophysis1 3 years ago
Rotate at 70?
Don't know about that.
And just to be annoyingly pedantic- density altitude includes temperature...take THAT mr Microsoft man!!
*briskly exits room with an air of uncertainty*
jayeveringham 3 years ago
You never rotate above 70 knots on a Cessna, 70-75 is the area, nothing over..
FlyingHye 3 years ago
Maybe its just in the S models. We rotate at 55 in the R models at school, thats why I thought it was damn fast.
jayeveringham 3 years ago
Oh, that's true
FlyingHye 3 years ago
Its 55 in both S & R
goweb172 3 years ago 2
msl = height above sea level, not height above ground.
jayroo71 3 years ago
what does MSL means guys
Omid45 3 years ago
I'm pretty sure it means Mean Sea Level.
Matteor1te 3 years ago 2
oh yea i know, but i meant like what does it mean? like what is Mean? the concept behind it. Thanks
Omid45 3 years ago
Look it up on wikipedia. That's what I'm doing lol.
Matteor1te 3 years ago
i did, but didn't help at all. All i understood was that it means it's the average sea level corrected for waves. Like they get they hight of all the waves, and average it out. BUT waves can only go up to 4, 8 10, or max 20 if there is a Tsunami lol. so why care about a couple of feet, if that's what it is?
Omid45 3 years ago
I'm pretty sure that the different oceans are at different heights. I'm not sure if this factors into it at all.
Matteor1te 3 years ago
it can't be! cause all the oceans are connected, and so how can they be at different heights?
Omid45 3 years ago
Different salinity, the Earth's rotation, different temperatures and other factors.
Matteor1te 3 years ago
your totally right dude. I just asked my flight instructer, and he said it's the tides. Tides are the effects of moon gravitational forces pulling one part of the Earth's oceans up, and higer, so the other side is lower. So it's averaged out for TIDES.
Omid45 3 years ago
yeah u do, you lift off the runway at 70 knots, otherwise the cessna will lag in angle of atack
fenderish 3 years ago
what does MSL mean
Omid45 3 years ago
"the cessna will lag in angle of atack"
Oh dear God.
RockMancuso 3 years ago
yeah but the picture has stayed the same so it doesnt make a difference
presnillajones 3 years ago
why the hell does he keep disappearing and reappearing?
presnillajones 3 years ago 3
probably so you can see the plane in the background because he's standing in the middle of the screen.
aviator06 3 years ago
The standard Vr is 55 knots, and Vy (best rate of climb) is 74 knots at which you normally climb at 10 degrees of pitch. For a Cessna 172SP, which I fly.
AirDude1213 3 years ago