Thanks for the upload - especially in light of your recent reference to it in one of your comments. Very useful to hear it applied to a real-life example so effectively. Good luck in your role as teacher with this poor kid!
An excellent video. I have great sympathy for the boy you spoke about, I hope he doesn't have to endure the same awful times that decimated my earlier life because of people like that.
If second-handers are impervious to reason, then the only way I could see "convincing" them is to show them how their thoughts and actions are destructive in the most direct sense possible. After that there is nothing you can do but wait and see whether they think or not.
In one of Peikoff's most recent podcasts, he said he doesn't get angry at people because, in part, he assumes they don't understand. What do you make of this?
@qtutoringhelps I listened to it. A lot of people do not have a clue what certain beliefs they hold come from. Some people if you tried to explain, will nod their heads, but at the end of the day they either don't care like the vast majority or they will try to rationalize further or simply evade the issue. For someone to be evil they would have to know an idea is evil and purposefully reject that knowledge. Most people do not fall into that category.
What about people who just no curiosity? Doesn't that amount to evil in the end? For example, Peikoff himself said that he inquired into Rand's ideas, even though he didn't understand why she got so angry at Kant. He kept seeking the answer, though, and now presumably understands. So what's the difference between someone who consciously knows something to be right and does the opposite versus someone who has zero curiosity with respect to the right philosophical ideas?
@qtutoringhelps I believe I just answered that in my last post. But to reiterate it, to have little curiosity is to choose to not think and therefore is evil.
Right, and I think that's the case with most people. Very few people spend 10 years trying to understand reality and then consciously and explicitly act against their understanding. However, most people just don't care.
@AlexanderEBott However, as I think about this a bit more, to not think about an issue, to absorb whatever may fall on your lap, to evade the issues, is as contemptible as the evil I mentioned above. Just because you are ignorant doe not mean that your ignorance is faultless.
Thanks for the upload - especially in light of your recent reference to it in one of your comments. Very useful to hear it applied to a real-life example so effectively. Good luck in your role as teacher with this poor kid!
EdmontonReader1989 1 month ago
@EdmontonReader1989
Thank you.
qtutoringhelps 1 month ago
An excellent video. I have great sympathy for the boy you spoke about, I hope he doesn't have to endure the same awful times that decimated my earlier life because of people like that.
coltrane1966 1 month ago
@coltrane1966
Cheers, thanks for commenting coltrane.
qtutoringhelps 1 month ago
It's like the surrender of one's consciousness to an arbitrary external authority. This reminds me so much of Julian Jaynes psychology theory.
BTW Could you one day do a review of his book, would love to hear your opinions on it.
SuperFinGuy 1 month ago
@SuperFinGuy
Sure, we should do a conversation on this on Skype.
qtutoringhelps 1 month ago
@qtutoringhelps Yeah that would be great. I need to refresh my thoughts on it myself.
SuperFinGuy 1 month ago
Good upload.
Virtueman1 1 month ago
@Virtueman1
Thanks VirtueMan1.
qtutoringhelps 1 month ago
Stefbot says it's child abuse.
Sivels 1 month ago
@Sivels
Physical abuse of children occurs, but it's not as pervasive as Molyneux says it is.
qtutoringhelps 1 month ago
It would be very hard to create this direct perception though.
AlexanderEBott 1 month ago
If second-handers are impervious to reason, then the only way I could see "convincing" them is to show them how their thoughts and actions are destructive in the most direct sense possible. After that there is nothing you can do but wait and see whether they think or not.
AlexanderEBott 1 month ago
@AlexanderEBott
In one of Peikoff's most recent podcasts, he said he doesn't get angry at people because, in part, he assumes they don't understand. What do you make of this?
qtutoringhelps 1 month ago
@qtutoringhelps I listened to it. A lot of people do not have a clue what certain beliefs they hold come from. Some people if you tried to explain, will nod their heads, but at the end of the day they either don't care like the vast majority or they will try to rationalize further or simply evade the issue. For someone to be evil they would have to know an idea is evil and purposefully reject that knowledge. Most people do not fall into that category.
AlexanderEBott 1 month ago
@AlexanderEBott *where
AlexanderEBott 1 month ago
@AlexanderEBott
What about people who just no curiosity? Doesn't that amount to evil in the end? For example, Peikoff himself said that he inquired into Rand's ideas, even though he didn't understand why she got so angry at Kant. He kept seeking the answer, though, and now presumably understands. So what's the difference between someone who consciously knows something to be right and does the opposite versus someone who has zero curiosity with respect to the right philosophical ideas?
qtutoringhelps 1 month ago
@qtutoringhelps
*who have just no curiosity?
qtutoringhelps 1 month ago
@qtutoringhelps I believe I just answered that in my last post. But to reiterate it, to have little curiosity is to choose to not think and therefore is evil.
AlexanderEBott 1 month ago
@AlexanderEBott
Right, and I think that's the case with most people. Very few people spend 10 years trying to understand reality and then consciously and explicitly act against their understanding. However, most people just don't care.
qtutoringhelps 1 month ago
@AlexanderEBott However, as I think about this a bit more, to not think about an issue, to absorb whatever may fall on your lap, to evade the issues, is as contemptible as the evil I mentioned above. Just because you are ignorant doe not mean that your ignorance is faultless.
AlexanderEBott 1 month ago