Even "non-Muslims" are buying Halal food in the video. The food is cleaned by Islamic standards and it IS very clean. The slaughtering of cow and letting its "initial" (lol) blood to flow out of the body ensures the cleanliness of the meat.It is right to do it? Debatable...but throwing bullshit over this issue (like you're doing) is unacceptable.
@auzer1000 Humane killing of food animals involves them being unconscious, these days even lobsters are either frozen or they're beheaded instead of being thrown alive into a pot of boiling hot water like they used to. Do you seriously believe and all seeing, all knowing being cares about what sort of food you eat or how it's prepared?
Well I don't care sir. If meat is halal..I'll be MORE happy because I would be SURE of its cleanliness lol ...We all eat meat..If you really care about the animals then why not become "vegetarian" ? This is useless argument. Animals are killed for medical research too...
@auzer1000 You're right that it's a useless argument. Because there's no way to win an argument with someone who thinks magical words over a tortured animal makes it "clean".
Well duhhh I stated my reasons above.Its not about magical words.As I said,conventional slaughtering causes the fresh/initial blood of the animal to flow out of the body.This,indeed,makes the meat "cleaner" ..Anyways
@auzer1000 ALL butchers drain the blood out. You might want to brush up on your English if you're going to attempt to debate someone. "Blood" doesn't make it "dirty".
Who is "debating" here? and Pul-eeseee don't act like a typical retard. English? LMAO !!!!! Go and teach that to some college students..its YOUTUBE..You can understand what I say,right? So what is the problem? I actually don't give a tiny shit about your "English" :D Who cares if my english isn't good etc? Do you think ANYONE gives a fuck about 'English"? Whatever...I don't have any problems with Halal food..probably you are some right wing nut who dislikes Islam/Muslims etc
By the way, I would LOVE to know what was wrong in my English in this post of mine :
///Well duhhh I stated my reasons above.Its not about magical words.As I said,conventional slaughtering causes the fresh/initial blood of the animal to flow out of the body.This,indeed,makes the meat "cleaner" ..Anyways///
Please tell me...you have a chance to correct my English.
Genesis 9 1 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth. 2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered. 3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.
How can halal meat be clean? If the animal is in extreme pain, it will release distress chemicals in the body, which you will end up eating. Not healthy!
I remember the scream the cow made when the halal approved butcher sliced it throat while its legs were bound together kicking trying to get away the sound of pain blood gurgling and look of terror in its eyes ...I never ate halal since and NEVER will this is not gods food this is the opposite
Why is ther no stamp to prove that a meat product has not been slaughtered in this way. Animals destined for halal slaughter are exempt from european animal welfaire laws, there for Halal meat is cheaper. When a Halal slaughtered animal becomes contaminater it is then harim and cannot be eaten by muslims. It is therefore non halal and sold to unaware non muslim consumers.
The point of halal is to not kill the animal fast, to keep it allive to drain of blood in pain
@MeThinks995 In fact Christians do the same! They also thank their patriarchial god for the food (and meat) on their table. They also think all Nature is a present from their god. Blind fools!
what i can't print up a batch of stickers, what a scam one retuarant pays 500 pounds a month, what a religous cash grab scam, just another way to get money for the bullets they are using on us...,out with islam and it's cult practices
you know what these guys are just slitting chicken throats all day everyday, in a cold & dreary factory, hardly the kind of halal meat eaten 1000 years ago
They should hang them up and slit their throats! Islam is a violent religion and if not hiding behind the guise OF RELIGION it would be banned. Sick warped fucking parasites! Europe has women walking ten feet behind them already. Imagine that downtown New York and call to prayer 5times a day at time sq. Islam does not allow for other religion or it's death. Islam should be WIPED OUT!!! Sick twisted fucks!!!
There are gases that take animals out very painlessly before their life is ended. This is sick way to torture animals because of delusional beliefs and should be handled like any crime against animals: jail time!
@lolingattheism if u r so much concerned for animals then Please stop having meat. if you know from logical point of view HALAL way is the most hygienic way to slaughter animals which removes all germs from animal body through blood. if u don't trust me GOOGLE it
@mrali47 Pigshit, halal slaughter is haram. I wonder if you would like the idea someone cutting your throat and shouting obscene words while doing it? Get real!
@lolingattheism u r a non-sense, idiotic and illiterate person who could never know the difference between right and wrong, Go eat pork containing tapeworms
@mrali47 I don`t care if its the "most hygienic way to slaughter animals" when theyre neck are cut with a machete with no anesthesia. People should care more fore animals welfare.
@mrali47 Clean meat is one thing. But having clean meat at the cost of the animals throat being opened and allowed to bleed to death is NEVER worth it. Animals can feal pain and fear just like we do and they allseo have souls. If they could speak things would go quet differently.
Animals kill animals all the time for food. Its nature buddy. that you cannot change. Its jut a cultural thing that Muslims slaughter their animal in that fashion. Its dates back in centuries.
@JigglesAndLaughter I eat meat, there is nothing wrong with that but there is a difference between killing for food and slaugthering. So what if they have done it for centuries, we have opressed womens for centuries is that right to? We have killed each other for far less then oil, power and money, is that okay to? We are Earth's guardians. We must respeact our fellow creatures otherwise be will be no better then a plague.
Than what are you suggesting, wipe out the entire human race? Its true we are destructive and evil. but some of us are exceptions. Going back to halal. Slaughtering animals is required to feed the millions of human mouths that are on this planet. Its the fastest way to provide food unless millions of us go out in the wild and hunt for food. Unlike tradition slaughterhouses, halal slaughterhouses do pay respect for the animals they kill. We are animals too, thus we need food
@JigglesAndLaughter You should kill to feed yourself that goes without saying but slitting the animals throat and allowing it to bleed to death is murder nothing else. I belive in a peacefull way of butting them to sleep. If we cut a mans throat we are murderers but if we do it to an animal no one even blinks an eye.
We don't own this world. We are just renting it. If we had a land lord he would have kicked oss out a long time ago. I love mankind but im allsoe ashamed for what we have done.
Look at how a lion or any big cat or wolf kills his prey. Isn't that murder too? Its pretty painful. When the animal's throat is sliced, the animal will soon pass out. Its far less painful than how nature does it. Slaughtering is not murder. Killing a creature and then consuming it is not murder......well.......the killing part is murder, but without the killing, there is no food.
A person once said to me that the world needs a balance of good and evil.
@JigglesAndLaughter That doesn't make it OK to let animals suffer by human hand. We are very different to wild animals (well most of us anyway) we have evolved feelings like empathy, understanding and conscience which is why most people can see why letting animals suffer while being slaughtered for any length of time for the sake of a made up mumbo jumbo belief bullshit is wrong! Especially when we have better methods available.
@JigglesAndLaughter If there will allways be a balance between good and evil then there will allways be blood, there will allways be a battlefield. I don't fight for balance, skrew that. Forward freedom, nothing else. We say we are better then animals. How? building cities? No. Speak, write, communicate? Yes.
Animals slaugther each other but if we are any better then them we will show mercy. Mercy by quick and PAINLESS death. We will gain nothing by the edge of a sword comanded by a religion.
@TheIcelandicPatriot your an idiot. thats the whole point of halal to keep the animals away from torture and pain. the certain vessel you cut on the neck instantly kills them with no pain felt. have you seen how the big companies have there animals are butchered. its straight cruelty.
The company that i buy all my meat from puts animals to sleep and before they are killed they are treated nicely. I know because i have seen it. I have seen many people killing animals in a Halal fashion. None of them died straight away. They all took atleast 30 seconds to die. One took over 2 minutes to die.
Have you any idea how it is for a 11 year old boy to see a sheep bleed to death? Bet you don't. I still have nightmares about it. Halal ain't clean, it ain't healthy. It's barbaric.
@TheIcelandicPatriot your an idiot. we were meant to eat meat. animals were given to us enrich ourselves with. its part of the life cycle. theres no need to put them to sleep?? lmao. with that one slice to that blood vessel they INSTANTLY die without feeling any pain. they dont take 30 idiots you idiot while there going through that seizure they are already DEAD. you sound like a fucken pussy you know not everyone is a city boy and gets mommy to feed them everything
@TheIcelandicPatriot theres tons of children in rural areas who see the proccess of animal food being slaughtered. its part of life pussy grow some balls and your an idiot barbaric? the whole point of halal is to love our animals and not torture them. dont tell me about my religion. haha christians from my home country in colombia would call you a PUSSY. omg do u no what its like for an 11 year old to see a sheep die! omg!!! lmao. if it aint healthy why is kosher/halal the healthiest in america?
If you had a child would you cover it's eyes if it was about to see a human being killed in the same way? I bet you would. Pussy? I will face 10000 muslims head on in a battle in defence of my country!! I will do anything to secure there way of life and there security. I will slay as many as i can before you take me down!! Healthy? Any meat is healthy so long as you clean it well, including halal, dog meat, frogs and pigs.
Now if you will exuse me im gona eat some bacon :)
@TheIcelandicPatriot you honestly sound like an idiot talking out of your ass. why would we kill a human being? human beings arent meant to be eaten. what kind of logic are you using? lol clean animals were given for humans to eat its part of the life cycle and we have to kill them somehow. ummm ok i see you got a weird thing against muslims lol stop watching so much CNN buddy.
@TheIcelandicPatriot idk what your point is and why your trying to argue facts its known that kosher/halal meat and products are some of the healthiest on the market. why do you think most kosher consumers in america come from non jews/muslims who are just trying to eat organic? do you think you sound smart talking out of your ass? go look at the scientific facts behind halal killing. its the best for animals and lol ok good for you go eat some bacon and die of a heart attack while your at it
What part of slowly dying do you not understand?You cut any type of animals throat and it will not die staright away.It will bleed to death and the pain will be emmence.
I have seen no scientific evidence that Halal meat is the cleanest but even if it is i will never eat an animal that has suffered.No matter how clean and how good it is my love for animals simply wont allow it.
I know many people who have eaten pork meat for over 50 years and they are as healthy as a horse.
@TheIcelandicPatriot what are you brain dead? am i talking to a wall or something? why are you arguing science? you are an athiest right? look at the scientific facts behind the halal killing the vain that is sliced causes instant death just cause its still moving around it doesnt mean its alive. seriously are you mentally challenged?? lmao. so if my head gets cut off and i no longer have circulation to my brain im still going to feel pain two minutes? lmaooo hahahaha this kids an idiot!!!
@TheIcelandicPatriot you have no scientific evidence? its this easy idiot type it on google. wtf is wrong with you we do halal for the non torture of animals. thats the whole point of it why would we want it to have a slow painful death? your a fucking idiot bro seriously if an animal could talk theyd probably call you an idiot. good for them theyve been eating pork for 50 years so are we still going to argue science?? LMAO healthy as a horse???
@TheIcelandicPatriot pig eat and live in there own shit. they have the worst digestive system out of any animal in the world which is why bacteria stays in there fat cells. hundreds of the worlds deadliest diseases have come from pigs. now pork is healthy to you!?!?! lmaooo am i talking to a 10 year old? a scientist would spit in your face bro.
My neighbor is a senior research scientist at food and health organication of Iceland.I get most information about food from her.She has never spit in my face.And you do know that we clean our food before we eat it?Mmm light pinkish pork with bacon on top with some hot sauce on it,can make your mouth mealt:)But i suppose i should thank you muslims for not eating pork.More bacon for oss then:)
O and if your a muslim i ain't your bro.Im your worst nightmare.Il see you in 2015 on some battlefield.
@TheIcelandicPatriot your neighbor would call you one dumb mother fucker if you tried to argue pork is healthy. ahahahahaha! thats cool like i said go be a fat fuck and eat some bacon lol eat allllll the fried pork in the world you can pleaseeee!!! and ok battlefield? lol your just weird. id be more worried about the day you face your creator.
@nycolombian91 I like pork just as much as the next western man/woman. And not that this matters but my body burns food much faster then an average human. Meaning i can't get fat. Well it's very hard. And i speak to my neighbor allmost every day. She eats it and finds nothing dirty about it. Creator? I face him everyday. He slept with my mother. We call them fathers :) If god exists then he is either a cruel murderer or useless.
@TheIcelandicPatriot i dont care what your point is i dont care who likes pork. the point is you said pork is as healthy as any other meat. that couldve been the dumbest shit ive heard on youtube yet lol. your going to compare pork an animal who eats there own shit and cant even digest there food correctly to an animal like a cow who only eats greens and has one of the most advanced digestive systems out there killing most bacterias?
@TheIcelandicPatriot your an idiottttt a nutritionist would be like wtf is wrong with this kid. it has nothing to do with being skinny or fat! lmao you can be the skinniest kid and be unhealthy as shit if all you eat is Mcdonalds and other bullshit. stop talking out of your ass what are you mentally challenged and have an imaginary nutritionist neighbor? are you going to tell me 2+2=5 also? lol this dumbass kid man telling me pork is ok to eat lmaoo and this has nothing to do with religion.
My grandfather and a WW2 veteran created my father and his father before him. If im gona go further to the past then I could name Homo Erectus or Homo Habilis, even further Sahelanthropus Tchadensis.
If he exists then he is the biggest criminal and a murderer the world has ever seen. If he made the world then he allsoe made plagues and such missery. Not to mention he could stop all war we fight by simply showing himself. We all fight ower who's right when this god could simply stop that.
@TheIcelandicPatriot and who created the sahelanthropus tchadensis? how is he a murderer? any corruption you see on this planet was created by greedy man. he gave us free will. if people choose to be evil and cause poverty and diseases around the world thats Gods fault? he gave us this universe to act as we will. those people with evil hearts will be punished after this life. this life is nothing.
@TheIcelandicPatriot why would he stop all war? we are the stupid humans who caused it and we should fix it. you do understand if God is real then if you die from war that means nothing right? i really dont understand why you think what God just stop our stupid mistakes like we shouldnt pay for them and learn from them and he will stop everything one day and thats the day of judgement. you need to give me a better argument
As for the war part. Two religions often fight against each other, he could simply come down here and say, your right and your wrong or your both wrong. It's that simple. If i die from war that means nothing? If me dying on a battlefield means that my family will survive one more day free then thats worth it.
If i died jumping on a grenate so safe my fellow man then thats worth it. I do not fear feath, i fear the death of my people.
@TheIcelandicPatriot he is going to come down here. Most religions are waiting on that. So what your trying to argue is already going to happen. If you want to look at in a scientific point of view our life compared to the relativity of the universe is nothing. were nothing. death is nothing. in a religious aspect this life is nothing compared to the next. this isnt even .00000001% of the next life. so you act as if us dying is so horrible that we wont be rewarded after
@TheIcelandicPatriot now rewarded meaning if you did good deeds lived a good life and believed in the creator. you have some horrible points. its God fault that were all greedy piece of shit humans? well most of us. dont worry for the ones who have suffered horribly in life theyll live like kings in the next life. the real life.
@nycolombian91 I see your under the illusion that there is something better after your death.
There is only this life thats why i make the most of it, so should you. We only have around 80 years there for i will enjoy as much of it as i can while im here. You can pray to your god that he will grant you a better life or you can help make this world great. This is not my paradise, not his and not yours. This is OUR home there for we must stand as one so we can make it a true paradise.
@TheIcelandicPatriot ok man if you feel comfortable with a life of pain, suffering, studying, working etc and one day your just going to rot in the dirt fine with me but God has showed us many proofs and if you still want to deny thats fine by me. stop letting the media fool your small peanut brain. w.e you think about islam its not the truth. the quran is a miraculous creation and no were not some psychos who follow some Bullshit lol really come on now. youve been warned.
What proofs of existance of god do you have?And some 2000 or 1400 year old book ain't no proof. Media?The only media i watch are the weater forecast and TYT but those ain't news.What i considder pain and suffering are many things,few of them are sexism,animal cruelty,anti freedom for the people just to name a few.There are many types of psychos in the world,such as child molester,ruthless murderers, sexists,racists just to name a few.
Warned?Ha ha ha what you gona do?kill me?Ha ha Do try it :)
@TheIcelandicPatriot lol this isnt no silly bible fairy tale. theres thousands upon thousands of proofs. thousands of scientific miracles that were just discovered last century were in the quran 1400 years ago. same with prophecies and mathematical miracles. the quran has NEVER changed in 1400 years. its a miracle for literature to way to hard to explain that part youd have to look into it.
@nycolombian91 What scientific proofs are that? Because i have never heard of them. Reading is a personal hobby of mine and i can tell you that all the world most brightest scientist have never been able to find a single proof of some spaketti deity.
Why has the Bible changes few times? To adopt to a modern society. Something i like to call human progress.
@TheIcelandicPatriot ok type in on google scientific miracles of the quran and learn for yourself
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theres a scientist confirming the qurans credibility. you really need to stop talking outside of your ass and calling your opinions fact it really doesnt make you look intelligent lol. blah blah blah the quran is full of human progress the islamic golden age was the one who took your europeans out of the med evil times.
Aaa the 50's such a different world back then :) Those scientist if you can call them that have been dead for what, 30 years. Intellegent? I never said i was but what i can is read and see hatred.
The Qu'ran degrades womens and treats them nothing more then cattle. Gays are not allowed and if you don't supmitt/(Be a slave) to Allah you are to spent your rest of eternity in hell.
One actor once said. There prophet says supmitt. Jesus says, deside.
@TheIcelandicPatriot huh? so are you discrediting einstein and sigmund freud since there from the early 1900s? the points your making are incredibly stupid. its this simple. the quran talked about scientific facts that were only discovered last century. that simple. the quran degrades women? lol shut the fuck up man. where r u from the middle of no where? have u ever talked to a muslim woman? how are they degraded? nothing more then cattle lmao i deadass think your mentally challenged
@TheIcelandicPatriot of course fuck gays lol u faggot. you think its natural to get a dick up your ass. your just a horny nasty fuck whos creepy and likes to do perverted shit. wtf what kind of a religion isnt a slave to God??? of course im a slave to God lol if your not then u cant consider yourself muslim/christian/jewish etc. jesus said decide!?!?! lmaooo wtf!!! ok how as a muslim were not free? im sorry we dont fuck guys dress like sluts and do drugs lol wooo freedom!
The very essence of freedom is to not serve any master and do what ever you want but the freedom i fight for is simple. You make your own choices in life, you and you alone can controle your own destiny. I am willing to serve a ruler, a ruler that fights for the people by the people. Allah wants more then people serving him. He wants total domination there for you can't do anything without him agreeing to it.
Gay rights are nothing about sex you ignorant bigot. It's about LIBERTY!!!!!
@TheIcelandicPatriot serve are master? lmao you sound like such an idiot. the advice the bible/torah/quran give are only for the best of us. its good advice just as ghandia or a buddha would give you. wtf r u sayin lmao. sorry our master says dont kill, love your parents, work hard, help the poor, have a good heart etc etc. Allah is your creator fool whats wrong with him wanting respect from the people. he made u and will kill u watch. and stfu u dirty anal loving fruit cake. go get some pussy
@nycolombian91 You sound like a muslim extremist that kills for fun :) Buddha does not hurt a soul, when Allah clearly wants all infidels dead. I do help the poor, one third of my money goes to Africa, Nigeria to be exact.
So because i want freedom and equality for ALL i have a bad heart? Again no proofs for Allah or any other god exist. A hole is a hole and i would be cheating on my bf if i would get some pussy but i love both.
@TheIcelandicPatriot and you honestly sound like a kid with aspergers syndrome on youtube. where do i sound like i like to kill for fun??? God doesnt want infedels dead wtf are you talking about. who the fuck r u to tell me about my religion. stop readin hate sites your making yourself look so stupid. you have no intelligence behind any of your claims. bad heart?? WTF are you talking about lol w.e you say faggot like i say u prob been warned by many youll face your creator one day
Are you saying i lack communication skill?Your the very first to say that.You pray to a war hungry child molester,sounds like you like to kill the inocent.Let me get my Q book*flips pages*Heres one,
Fight and slay the pagans(or infidels,unbelievers)wherever you find them.Surah(9:5)
As to those who reject faith,I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter,nor will they have anyone to help(Qu'ran 3:56)
I tell you about your religion just as you do with my freedom.Next-
@TheIcelandicPatriot so if my head gets cut off im going to feel pain!?!? how do i feel pain if my nerves are conneced to my brain. lmao dummy!! why are you taking things out of context you dont even no wtf your reading. that surah 9.5 is supposed to be the final days when the anti christ soldiers go to war against the God believers jewish, muslim or christian. were suppose to kill them that day. that doesnt pertain to this time.
Hate sides? I read and watch truth, just like in this video on how the slay animals.
You say im not intellegent and i say your not. It goes back and forward :) You mentioned something about bad heart in you other text or have you forgot?
You say your religon is peacefull when they have never showned that and the fact that you use the word faggot ain't helping you.
If you would be peacefull you would never speak hatred to any types of people, no matter what they did or what they are.
@TheIcelandicPatriot you are literally the definition of ignorance. your going to tell someone about there own religion lmao. did you even watch this video?you dont see the respect given to these chickens compared to slaughter houses? your a very weird person lol. your right i shouldnt have to talk like that and thats wrong of me but ill say it one more time and i hope God forgives me. you been warned u little athiest faggot. lol and i said sry are master says have a good heart learn how to read
Your cleary either trying to hide the fact that your religion is hatefull or your just extremely ignorant...or both. I did watch this video but i haven't done so in a long time. My slaughter house kills animals by gas. I asked them how that worked and they said the gas makes them feal sleepy so they simply fall asleep and don't wake up. I find that much better then taking a knife, slitting the animals throat and allowing it to bleed to death.It's hard to understand something wich is not spelled-
@TheIcelandicPatriot yes and to those like you who mock Gods name your punishment is going to be something you couldnt even imagine on this planet. you better believe that. hahahahahaha yea ok your an idiot i can tell your not even a smart athiest your going to teach someone about there religion. are you going to teach a mathematician math also?? lmao
@nycolombian91 I mock anyone who kills inocent people and inslaves the mind so yes i dare to mock Allah because i dare to live free. Atheist don't have to be scientist, high school teachers, politictians. Atheist belive in science and human progress. They come from all classes. Rich, poor, doctors, carpenders. Mathematic's?
That has nothing to do with this arguement but it is a part of science there for i study that with great pashion.
@TheIcelandicPatriot whos killing innocent people? the worse sin in islam is to murder. lol why does your brain work so weird? i said were supposed to kill the helpers of the anti christ. the anti christ is going to be the devil lol his helpers will chop your head off without hesitation for fun. science is in the quran. science goes hand and hand with islam unlike christianity. so go study the scientific miracles in the quran type that in on google and youll feel stupid.
Science can work with religion but thats limited. To study science without any fear, to go as far as our wits can go. That can't be done with religion brething down our necks. You pray to a child molester,Im no geneus but compaired to a smart muslim im a wunderkind. Islam banns killings ey? Perhaps thats why you killed 2000 inocent civillians 10 years ago,perhaps thats why it sais kill all infidels in the Qu'ran.
Anti christ or a muslims?An enemy of my enemy is my friend so i pick anti christ :)
@TheIcelandicPatriot man what are you talking about. your talking on a christian point of view. things how there bible says the earth is only 3500 year old. lmao that shit dont exact in the quran. the quran claims we had a animal and plant kingdom before humans roamed the earth. theres so much to it please stop calling your opinion facts how ignorant can you get? do you usually speak upon nothing you know about and think your right? lol
@TheIcelandicPatriot like i said look at the scientific facts in the quran. type in scientific miracles of the quran on google. i pray to a child molester!?! lmao God molested kids?? are you on crack lmfaooo. i killed 2000 civilians?? seriously are you high lmfao. your going to base 10 lunatic 3rd world ignorant terrorists on a people of 1.2 billion followers. shit if we believed in killing u wouldnt be alive right now.
@TheIcelandicPatriot btw DUMBASS im FROM NEW YORK CITY and my aunts husband who is muslim passed away in those twin towers. please watch your fucken mouth your a joke even new yorkers would laugh at u i PROMISE you that. your a fool i feel like im talking to some redneck KKK member. you dumb mother fucker i explained what the infedel thing was and it was translated wrong in english in ancient arabic it says FIGHT the infedels. but ignorant terrorist take it out of context.
@nycolombian91 As a New Yorker and a english speaking person you should know what racist means.
I hate islam yes i do not deny it but do i hate there color? No and why? because it is just a color. Victory does not come without scrifice, i guess muslims use that motto too. If most muslims don't agree with extremist why don't you do something about it? The U.S army found Osama in a fine penthouse suit in the best neighborhood in Pakistan. Makes you wonder.
@TheIcelandicPatriot man shut the fuck up. youve talked pure bullshit. your not even an intelligent athiest. ive shut all your claims down easily. blah blah blah. why dont we do something about it? yea man let me go talk against a terrorist right now so he can blow fucken head off right? fuck osama wtf u bringin up that devil for. what r u fucken stupid lmao look at your childish arguments. fuck osama and fuck the us GOVT and fuck you. wow u been to NY cool lmaooo fucken faggot.
@nycolombian91 So far as i can see you have only writen. Faggot, i win, you stupid, im smart. Is that how you win an arguement? You win an arguement by proper proofs and by speaking in a civilized manor. You have brought no proofs wich could be taken seriusly by any modern scientist. And the fact that you have to use foal language to try to win some arguement just shows your ignorance even more.
@TheIcelandicPatriot if thats all you can see what i written then your truly a dumbass. real simple. is that how i win an argument. ive replied to EVERY ignorant statement u said and every time you shut up and switch to things like this. you dodge any debate. lol ok man. im glad i proved how much of a dumbass you were. you suck at being an athiest lmao.
@TheIcelandicPatriot its to easy FAGGOT lmaoo. reread every single comment and i shut u up every time. even on the last comment i shut you up about osama and before that about 9/11 and about halal (if i cut my head off how do i feel pain without my nerves?) the list goes on and on
@TheIcelandicPatriot lol ok. the main vessel in the throat thats cut off is the blood circulation to the brain. i dont understand how your trying to argue science. lol this guy man. its known its an INSTANT kill. why would most animal activists in america eat kosher/halal??? lmao
@nycolombian91 I am a member of international help organication for velfare of animals and i know many people who are in it. None of wich eat Halal or Kosher. They are either vegetarians or regular meat eaters.
Again there is cutting and there is cutting. How deep, how long, high on the throat or low, Is someone there to hold the wound. You cutt a mans throat just lighty and not deep, he/she can well survive or die slowly.
@TheIcelandicPatriot you arent a member of shit. you have to resort to lies now? nice man you just keep proving how well you are a debating. im astonished man i really am. intelligent athiest we got here yup. its a fact the majority of kosher consumers in america are organic and animal activist eaters. muslims dont even buy halal we cant afford it and jews are to cheap to spend 5x the price of meat. theres a reason its so expensive.
@TheIcelandicPatriot the knife that is used has to be so sharp it will slice your finger off by just touching it. look at a halal killing and you will even see the one huge blood vessel that is killed. thats the main vessel from the brain that transport blood. wound!?!? WHAT WOUND THEY INSTANTLY DIE. there not just cutting the throat like some movie its a blood vessel that gets cut. your seriously arguing science with me right now. this has nothing to do with religion,
@nycolombian91 Do you wana know how many times i have seen animals being killed in a Halal way?
I have lost count of it. Do you know how many times i have seen an animal die straight away? 3 times and those were all chickens. A person can lose all hands and legs on a battlefield and still live for few seconds.
If i were to slit your troat the likelyness of you dying on the same second are close to nill.
@TheIcelandicPatriot whattt? if you seen halal you wouldnt be complaining. wtf you comparing hands and legs to the main blood vessel that connects to your brain. what a stupid comparison. your just making yourself look stupid. you never saw halal lol you resort to lies now? idk wtf your arguing. if you were to slit the vein on my throat that connects to my brain id instantly die. im not talking about just slicing aany part of the throat. your such a joke stop arguin science.
@nycolombian91 If you hold your breath down you don't die. I if would cutt your throat and someone would try to stop the bleeding you could survive. Why do i think so? Because my uncle's troat was cutt during a bar fight. He's still very much alive. He has a huge scar but yes he's live and kicking. And as for lying, I do not need to lie to win this arguement, i did that about a week ago. Lying gets oss no were. Truth shall set oss free but if you deny the truth your only hurting yourself.
@TheIcelandicPatriot i really dont understand what your trying to argue. lol. your talking about just some regular old slit to the throat. im talking about that one main blood vessel (fuck i forgot the name) that once its cut your dead. lol no saving. i mean your just an idiot comparing bar fights to this. seriously if your an animal activists why do all animal activists buy kosher food? you really need to look more into what it is. stop being so ignorant.
@nycolombian91 What we are arguing is the morality of Halal food making. I think it's only humain if you kill an animal by sleeping gas but you think it's fine to slit there throat and there for they bleed to death. Your the one praying to a religion that is allmost 100% male dominance and that has a child molester as a prophet.
And your calling me an idiot ha ha ha :) I have spoken, whent to many meetings and i have never, not once met nor heard of an animal lover that eats Kosher or Halal.
@TheIcelandicPatriot im going to keep asking you over and over again. so why are most of the kosher consumers in america non muslim or jewish and the buyers are organic/ ex vegan/ and animal activist? im waitin for an answer. HOW DO THEY BLEED TO DEATH IF THEY INSTANTLY DIE. do you have a brain!?!?!? am i arguing with a mentally challenged individual?? your so weird wow.
@TheIcelandicPatriot your an idiot. why do you keep calling your opinion fact? your ignorance is so sad. 100% male dominance?? wtf a muslim woman would laugh at you. we have a whole chapter dedicated to women. lmao child molestor?? how is he a child molestor!?!?!? show me your proof???? LMAO YOU NEVER HEARD OF AN ANIMAL LOVER EAT KOSHER??? you are weirddddddddd
You may call me what ever you like but that does not make it true.I call many of my opinions fact because those i say are a fact i have read,heard and seen.Can a muslim woman choose to take of her vale in Saudi Arabia,drive,marry who they like,if she's gay can she come out?And amongst many other things.If they would do any of these things they would either be arrested or killed.As for the child molester part,Does the name Aisha ring any bells?The west does not have animal lovers eating pour meat
@TheIcelandicPatriot show me your proof where it says halal killing is inhumane? show me one valid document. you havent seen nothing dumbass all you can do is resort to lies its easy to spot out a liar. yes you dumbass lmao a woman doesnt have to wear her vale in islam. thats HER choice. she does it for God are you retarted saudi arabia is just as modern as america lmao what do you think they live in the stone age or something hahaha.
@TheIcelandicPatriot yes she can marry who she pleases, yes she can drive (its not against the law), and no she cant be gay. sorry fag boy lol. lmao she woud be killed? hahahaha listen to this CNN brainwashed dumbass propaganda. yeah your soooooooo smart lmao. yes Aisha dumbass are you going to speak without knowing knowledge of the topic wow bro you really arent ignorant lmao man athiest are sooooo smart.
Saudi Arabia is the only country in the world that prohibits women from driving. Thats not my words, thats wikipedia. I know a ex muslim woman, she had her face burned because she fell in love with an icelandic none muslim man, she's my friend. she was able to flee Jordan when her husband took her to the british embassy, with a burned face. But king Abdullah is trying to change that. He's trying to give womens the rights they have been denied to. Soon they will be able to vote, drive and more :)
@TheIcelandicPatriot exactly saudia arabia is the only country in the world. does that mean islam!?!? NO. no where in the quran does it say women cant drive lol and personally i think saudi is stupid for that law. you do not know a ex muslim woman who had her face burnt lmao thats such bullshit. that is such terrible sin and if a man did that he will be punished by God. thats horrible exactly king abdullah is a good guy what does this have to do with islam??
@TheIcelandicPatriot and if you do know a woman who was mistreated like that its cause those stupid jordan people are 3rd world savages. there 3rd world savages who are christian and athiest also. dont blame the religion over some mans mistake.
@nycolombian91 Personally i know 2 Jordanian, 5 Saudi Arabians, 2 Egyptians, 1 Morrocoan, 3 Algerians and 2 from Oman that have fleed there countries and come here, two muslim gay couples wich i can't disclose where they are.
If you have the time i would like you to watch a video on YouTube called
MUSLIM WOMAN TELLS THE TRUTH ABOUT ISLAM. Excuse the caps letters. It's pretty much just a regular muslim woman on a muslim tv channel speaking her mind.
@TheIcelandicPatriot if you know this many arabs then how in the world can you be this ignorant lmao. you know where i stand about gays. lol your going to teach me about my religion. how stupid are you how about if you have the time read the chapter in the quran called the woman. it wont take long. shut the hell up with your youtube videos and pick up a quran for yourself and see there free anyways.
@TheIcelandicPatriot omg man are you serious? how much of a joke are you. can you at LEAST BRING UP VALID POINTS. did you really just send me to a hate site? lmaooo do you even know what memri tv is?? its own by jews!! jews who hate muslims! why the fuck you going to show me an arab channel owned by israelis come on do you have a brain?? lmaooo have you seen the rest of the bullshit on memri tv clips on youtube. you do know those channels are banned in the middle east
@TheIcelandicPatriot and you claim youtube is silly and overrated and youd rather go to a book for the real info. well obviously any intelligent mind would say that so if you spend SO MUCH TIME hating islam at least waste 20 mins on the religion you hate so much and see what its truly about so you can at least know what your hating. like i said go pick up a quran its not going to burn your hands lmao and read the chapter the woman or the very first 10 pages and your going to see you
@TheIcelandicPatriot see you have ABSOLUTELY no idea what your talking about and why dont you sit with a professional who knows the animal business and ask them to scientifically explain halal methods and WHY its done. stop being so rude and ignorant and how dare you expect a muslim dont get mad at you when you so hatefully and disgustingly say things. grow up man.
Rude and hatefull, me? To you yes but if you have not noticed i have not said a single foal language since we started arguing. I don't need them but it seems you do. It very simple, you cut anyones throat
and it won't be pleasant. Why do you do it? Because you think it will make the meat clean if the animal suffers.
Professional? I know a few, the head of PETA is one that fights strongly against Halal.
Im a realistic man. Scientific proofs are my thing. You simply need a 1400 year old book.
@TheIcelandicPatriot yeah ok man w.e you say your not hateful to muslims LOL. you think you not saying foul language hides your cowardly heart behind closed doors? i cut anyones throat. LMAO. oh man. wtf we dont do it to make the mean clean?? the FIRST priority is to make sure the animal goes through the least pain it can. God gave us permission to eat meat as long as we did it with justice. who is this head of PETA? and i told u theres a bunch of scientific proofs in the quran.
The Qu'ran is a religious fanatical book wich has no place in a modern society. No offence :)
Ingrid Newkirk head and Co founder of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. She's even more of a animal friend then i am. If an animal does not know it's a about to die and dies without even knowing it then that is a good way. The animal must not suffer, not for one second and it must not know it either.
Your right i have been hatefull but then again so have you so....I guess we are even.
@TheIcelandicPatriot lol ok man w.e you say the quran is fake and im just a lunatic lol. w.e you say we do halal to hurt animals lol were going to see whos right when were dead right? ok soon enough and better hope your right buddy or your in for a rudeeee awakening =]
@nycolombian91 Fake? No no the Qu'ran is very much real but that does not make it right. Im not quet sure if i would call you a lunatic. You simply belive strongly in your faith wich i can't say is very pro Earth.
And even if there is a god and your right i won't regret anything because god has done nothing to this world exept creat conflict, disseas and other shit.
A king is born, is it our duty to serve him? No, for a leader to have followers it has to be earned, not fored upon.
@TheIcelandicPatriot lol ok man w.e you say. yeah man im not pro Earth -__- w.eeee you say. God has created conflict!?!?!?! you mean us stupid greedy humans have created conflict. God gave you free will to pick and choose what you want and if there is a God like you say this world is shit it dont mean nothing so when you die it doesnt matter. dont compare God to a king your a measly human your nothing compared to your creator whos divine. lmao God the one who made u needs to earn your respec wow
We did create conflict but if god was real and if he was good then he could stop all conflict in like 30 second. This world ain't shit, i never said that but many humans are trying to make it shit. When i die i die, nothing glorious or painfull. Thats why im trying with every breath i have to enjoy myself and to better the world.
More insults i see....I will compair god with a snake anyday of the week. If a murderer gives birth to a kid and hits it and such that kid ows his father nothing.
@TheIcelandicPatriot why should he stop what we did? and he could stop it before you even blink your eyes actually. you never heard the expression you reap what you sow and all scriptures claim there will be a day there is peace so yes he is going to stop it but things are going to get a lot world on this corrupt planet. lol ok man w.e you say youll face your creator one day i dont care about your business.
@nycolombian91 If he is good, if he is kind then he would help oss just as parents split up there children when they fight. But he does not so he either does not exist or he's cruel. Just because someone is a maker does not give him/her/it the right to do what ever it wants. The only thing i will face near my death is either a bullet fired from your people on some battlefield or old age.
P.S. Just got to ask, what do you mean by the w.e?
@TheIcelandicPatriot lol lets say God (creator of the universe) not the christian God where they believe a man is God. that higher power it keeps the whole entire universe moving is God. now who are you to say what your creator should do? lol man your buggin we reap what we sow its that simple. why does God have to fix it? us humans can fix it ourselves before he needs to intervene. why would my people kill you its against islam? i dont know whos people your talkin bout lol and w.e is what ever
@nycolombian91 If god is good and peacefull he would help oss. We throw people in prison when they kill people. If god was a man he would be worse then Hitler. Fixing this and that but we can never totally agree.
We will never acept islam and you have shown many times your disslike for that. There for i am sertant there will be a war between oss. But i am not afraid because you stand little chance of winning :)
Now if you will excuse me im gona go back to my tee drinking :)
@TheIcelandicPatriot God does help his believers. lol i dont understand why you keep sayin he should come down and help us out of no where when we caused these problems as humans we can fix the world ourselves. we dont need God to intervene yet. most of the corruption on this world has nothing to do with religion. bro stand little chance of winnin? lmao your an idiot like i said you sound like the KKK and well see whos right when were dead. lmao.
@nycolombian91 Funny how every time i stand up against you people you say im racist. Are you white, black, yellow, pink, green? I don't care what color you have. I care whom you serve. Your people? Or your religion, it can't be both. We can fix it no doupt but not without much bloodshed and missery. I do think we can win when we have more in...well...everything, technology, manpower, nukes, allies, honor, freedom. Allthough we can be a bit careless but it's all good :)
@TheIcelandicPatriot whattt? your going to claim your not racist to people of the muslim faith? lmao man shut up. whos talkin about color? racism doesnt only apply to color. whats in that little small peanut size brain of yours. ok man w.e you say will see if you win against God. just wait til death if you fall to the dirt and mix with shit and thats the end of your life then your right but if you see the creator be prepared for a horrible punishment. take care.
@nycolombian91 I supose race goes with culture awell but i don't hate muslim as a people no. I hate what your religion stands for and there for i clash with many muslims. But i must say muslim females are a lot politer then you guys. Atleast those who are allowed to own a computer. I do not wish any harm to your people and family unless they do harm, just as i wish harm to a sereal killer and a rapist and not 10 year old school girls selling cookies.
@TheIcelandicPatriot lol ok well you need to stop talking to people on the internet you know how pathetic that is. pull over a muslim sit and talk with him and i BET your opinion will change and ok theres your point you wish harm on the serial killer. exactly you wish harm on the terrorist not a muslim because we dont believe in killing or any of that bullshit you see on BBC lol. if anything ill join you to beat the crap outta some terrorist.
@nycolombian91 Then we do not totally dissagree. I simply wish to harm those who are a threat to my people and way of life. I have no wish to attack you but a large amount of muslims have done dammage to my people so naturally some have great disstaske for islam. Those people who have done dammage have sometimes ussed bombs but allsoe inforcement and terror of the people. If you wish to live here i welcome it but you must obey our laws for if you don't there shall be clashing of civilizations.
@TheIcelandicPatriot theres no threat from muslims i promise you. those who have done bombs?!?!? those arent even muslims. terrorists dont even make up 3% of muslims. there 1.4 billion muslims in the world!! man you are buggin.......
@TheIcelandicPatriot how many muslims have killed americans in the past 30 years? and then how many americans have killed muslims in the past 30 years...hmmm makes you think whos the real terrorist.
Exelent point indeed.We have slain many and for that i am ashamed for.But our laws clearly state,do no harm to inocent civillians,we can't allways follow them but we do try.Thy wish to strike oss?Strike soldiers not the inocent.
War is a soldiers game,not civillians.
Have you been to Paris sir?Venecia?Malmö?Copenhagen?Oslo?
I have and in all those cities i have either been asulted by your kind or the police banned me from entering some sections of the city.
@TheIcelandicPatriot dont harm innocent civilians. when wikileaks dropped it showed over 300,000 people have been killed in iraq and afghanistan and al quaeda doesnt even make up 5% of the population of each country. HMMM. youve been assaulted by 3rd world uneducated idiots. dont blame the religion blame the people. if i went to colombia or brazil 3rd world idiots would act stupid. what do u expect when you mix religion, ignorance, and poverty?
@TheIcelandicPatriot dont blame the religion over stupid peoples actions. there obviously not following islam right and i bet not everyone is crazy in oslo or paris like you exaggerate. im sure theres MANY peaceful muslims. over here in america the muslims are soooooo peaceful and nice. it cant be that different then europe. umm what do you mean we wont stop? do u mean terrorist? what do u expect me to do HEY TERRORIST STOP. so he can blow my brain off?
@nycolombian91 What is a terrorist? A person that blows himself up? Possibly more? Here in Europe you want special rights like no other. If we build a church there you want a mosque at the same place and much bigger.
We may not say or do anything against islam otherwise we will be threatend or killed. When you move to our countries most of you don't migle with oss, we offer you jobs but you prefear to take our benefits, you don't live in the same streets as oss (Continue)
@nycolombian91 Even when you have every right to do so. You prefear to live in one comunity where other people are simply no welcomed. I walked into one of your comunities in Sweden and i won't do that again uless i have a gun. When you protest and demand sharia those peacefull muslims are nowhere to be found.
European muslims are like a vaccume cleaner. You take and take but give nothing in return.
They are peaceful in Europe and America because they are still little portion. Once they obtain power you will see the real face of Islam.It happens in many spots of the world. For example, in Chychany when the Muslims believe that Russia began to lose its power after the end of the cold war, they declaired Juhad and killed many innocent Russian in order to establish Islamic state and steal the land and its resource but thanks god The Russian troops could wiped them out.
@TheIcelandicPatriot Aicha ended up being one of the most holy women in islam and God sent muhammed to marry her. muhammed married aichia at 9 but just cause it was commanded and it was for a reason. he didnt do anything with her or conceive here til 14/15 and in those times it was acceptable in every civilization to be with a woman than same with guys gettin married once they were 13. lmao dumbassssss.
@nycolombian91 She was commanded. Thats what we like to call a proplome. Reason? Wich was what?
O offcorse to please some dude that was like 40 years older then her. Offcorse other people married someone at the age of 14 no doupt but we haven't done that since?......I belive the last one was around 400-500 years ago. In some muslim parts of the world you still do it. Eee gives me the creeps.
@TheIcelandicPatriot He was commanded to have Aichia in his life. Aichia ended up being his holiest wife and was the one to preserve the quran after his death. shes very important in islam. please a dude? lol what are you talking about. yes we havent done that since?? 400 500 years ago and muhammeds time was 1400 years ago and some people in very poor villages still marry 14 year olds well religion or not your considered a woman then in 3rd world parts of the world.
@TheIcelandicPatriot lol ok man w.e you say talking to you is like talking to a special ed kid man your like a wall w.e you say. your the definition of ignorance grow up and learn how to debate i shut u up easily and u dodge everything
@Emad learn to spell. learn history. fuck off to Russia and suck mafia dick u shit
lolugbenga 1 month ago
I think muslim religion is right religion....we all have to change
Blu3zClu3z 4 months ago
I SUGGEST PEOPLE TO TRY EATING HALAL MEAT FIRST, YOU WOULD TASTE THE DIFFERENCE, BECUASE ITS MORE FRESH AND TASTES SO GOOD :)
Lumanix1 4 months ago
welcome to cavemen living in the 21st century
SylG73 5 months ago
@SylG73
Even "non-Muslims" are buying Halal food in the video. The food is cleaned by Islamic standards and it IS very clean. The slaughtering of cow and letting its "initial" (lol) blood to flow out of the body ensures the cleanliness of the meat.It is right to do it? Debatable...but throwing bullshit over this issue (like you're doing) is unacceptable.
auzer1000 4 months ago
@auzer1000 Humane killing of food animals involves them being unconscious, these days even lobsters are either frozen or they're beheaded instead of being thrown alive into a pot of boiling hot water like they used to. Do you seriously believe and all seeing, all knowing being cares about what sort of food you eat or how it's prepared?
SylG73 4 months ago
@SylG73
Well I don't care sir. If meat is halal..I'll be MORE happy because I would be SURE of its cleanliness lol ...We all eat meat..If you really care about the animals then why not become "vegetarian" ? This is useless argument. Animals are killed for medical research too...
auzer1000 4 months ago
@auzer1000 You're right that it's a useless argument. Because there's no way to win an argument with someone who thinks magical words over a tortured animal makes it "clean".
SylG73 4 months ago
@SylG73
Well duhhh I stated my reasons above.Its not about magical words.As I said,conventional slaughtering causes the fresh/initial blood of the animal to flow out of the body.This,indeed,makes the meat "cleaner" ..Anyways
auzer1000 4 months ago
@auzer1000 ALL butchers drain the blood out. You might want to brush up on your English if you're going to attempt to debate someone. "Blood" doesn't make it "dirty".
SylG73 4 months ago
@SylG73
Who is "debating" here? and Pul-eeseee don't act like a typical retard. English? LMAO !!!!! Go and teach that to some college students..its YOUTUBE..You can understand what I say,right? So what is the problem? I actually don't give a tiny shit about your "English" :D Who cares if my english isn't good etc? Do you think ANYONE gives a fuck about 'English"? Whatever...I don't have any problems with Halal food..probably you are some right wing nut who dislikes Islam/Muslims etc
auzer1000 4 months ago
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@auzer1000
By the way, I would LOVE to know what was wrong in my English in this post of mine :
///Well duhhh I stated my reasons above.Its not about magical words.As I said,conventional slaughtering causes the fresh/initial blood of the animal to flow out of the body.This,indeed,makes the meat "cleaner" ..Anyways///
Please tell me...you have a chance to correct my English.
auzer1000 4 months ago
@auzer1000 Wow you need to calm down caveman.
SylG73 4 months ago
@SylG73
hahaa I'm calm pornstar :D
auzer1000 4 months ago
Genesis 9 1 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth. 2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered. 3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.
lambsev 5 months ago
I saw pork
KatiushaVN4 5 months ago
How can halal meat be clean? If the animal is in extreme pain, it will release distress chemicals in the body, which you will end up eating. Not healthy!
pyrouzi 7 months ago
I remember the scream the cow made when the halal approved butcher sliced it throat while its legs were bound together kicking trying to get away the sound of pain blood gurgling and look of terror in its eyes ...I never ate halal since and NEVER will this is not gods food this is the opposite
hiewy 7 months ago
Why is ther no stamp to prove that a meat product has not been slaughtered in this way. Animals destined for halal slaughter are exempt from european animal welfaire laws, there for Halal meat is cheaper. When a Halal slaughtered animal becomes contaminater it is then harim and cannot be eaten by muslims. It is therefore non halal and sold to unaware non muslim consumers.
The point of halal is to not kill the animal fast, to keep it allive to drain of blood in pain
djinfrance 8 months ago
@MrChickybee1 Im a Christian but you sound extremely ignorant & digusting
MeThinks995 9 months ago
@MeThinks995 In fact Christians do the same! They also thank their patriarchial god for the food (and meat) on their table. They also think all Nature is a present from their god. Blind fools!
lotjepoes1 8 months ago
I'm surprised to find McBirther Bill crowd comments here. No really, I am.
GUEROMEXICANO831 9 months ago
what i can't print up a batch of stickers, what a scam one retuarant pays 500 pounds a month, what a religous cash grab scam, just another way to get money for the bullets they are using on us...,out with islam and it's cult practices
jjbravo1000 9 months ago
This kosher and halal Bullshit has really got to come to an end.
REDMAN4701 9 months ago
you know what these guys are just slitting chicken throats all day everyday, in a cold & dreary factory, hardly the kind of halal meat eaten 1000 years ago
snowydread21 9 months ago
sad. youtube wont let me comment.
kateden0000 10 months ago
I GUESS THIS DUMB WOMEN DOES NOT SEE WHAT THEY DO TO THE ANIMALS
WHAT IS IT CERTIFIED WITH THE STAMP SAYING THEY ABUSE ANIMALS
carrietony35 11 months ago
I GUESS THIS DUMB WOMEN DOES NOT SEE WHAT THEY DO TO THE ANIMALS
carrietony35 11 months ago
we dont want ur halal u fuckin animals
TheBrattyz 11 months ago
They should hang them up and slit their throats! Islam is a violent religion and if not hiding behind the guise OF RELIGION it would be banned. Sick warped fucking parasites! Europe has women walking ten feet behind them already. Imagine that downtown New York and call to prayer 5times a day at time sq. Islam does not allow for other religion or it's death. Islam should be WIPED OUT!!! Sick twisted fucks!!!
ledaohio 11 months ago
my duck halal 4 you
mikedavidtheman 1 year ago
@elifbathaje Fucking ragheads
yourmumsdog 1 year ago
@elifbathaje do you speak english? bro
yourmumsdog 1 year ago
I would love to be a halal inspector, that looks like a great job.
VerdugoCityRider 1 year ago
I can make allot of money opening a meat store for the Muslims and calling it Halal.
murk2002 1 year ago
i agree with nnosso , bacon taste great.
johnyehyeh 1 year ago
who cares, bacon tastes great!
nnossov 1 year ago
chesseburger please...
TheVMFA333 1 year ago
There are gases that take animals out very painlessly before their life is ended. This is sick way to torture animals because of delusional beliefs and should be handled like any crime against animals: jail time!
lolingattheism 1 year ago
@lolingattheism if u r so much concerned for animals then Please stop having meat. if you know from logical point of view HALAL way is the most hygienic way to slaughter animals which removes all germs from animal body through blood. if u don't trust me GOOGLE it
mrali47 1 year ago
@mrali47 Pigshit, halal slaughter is haram. I wonder if you would like the idea someone cutting your throat and shouting obscene words while doing it? Get real!
lolingattheism 1 year ago
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@lolingattheism u r a non-sense, idiotic and illiterate person who could never know the difference between right and wrong, Go eat pork containing tapeworms
mrali47 1 year ago
@mrali47 I don`t care if its the "most hygienic way to slaughter animals" when theyre neck are cut with a machete with no anesthesia. People should care more fore animals welfare.
efhve 9 months ago
@mrali47 Clean meat is one thing. But having clean meat at the cost of the animals throat being opened and allowed to bleed to death is NEVER worth it. Animals can feal pain and fear just like we do and they allseo have souls. If they could speak things would go quet differently.
TheIcelandicPatriot 8 months ago 5
@TheIcelandicPatriot
Animals kill animals all the time for food. Its nature buddy. that you cannot change. Its jut a cultural thing that Muslims slaughter their animal in that fashion. Its dates back in centuries.
JigglesAndLaughter 5 months ago
@JigglesAndLaughter I eat meat, there is nothing wrong with that but there is a difference between killing for food and slaugthering. So what if they have done it for centuries, we have opressed womens for centuries is that right to? We have killed each other for far less then oil, power and money, is that okay to? We are Earth's guardians. We must respeact our fellow creatures otherwise be will be no better then a plague.
TheIcelandicPatriot 5 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot
Than what are you suggesting, wipe out the entire human race? Its true we are destructive and evil. but some of us are exceptions. Going back to halal. Slaughtering animals is required to feed the millions of human mouths that are on this planet. Its the fastest way to provide food unless millions of us go out in the wild and hunt for food. Unlike tradition slaughterhouses, halal slaughterhouses do pay respect for the animals they kill. We are animals too, thus we need food
JigglesAndLaughter 5 months ago
@JigglesAndLaughter You should kill to feed yourself that goes without saying but slitting the animals throat and allowing it to bleed to death is murder nothing else. I belive in a peacefull way of butting them to sleep. If we cut a mans throat we are murderers but if we do it to an animal no one even blinks an eye.
We don't own this world. We are just renting it. If we had a land lord he would have kicked oss out a long time ago. I love mankind but im allsoe ashamed for what we have done.
TheIcelandicPatriot 5 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot
Look at how a lion or any big cat or wolf kills his prey. Isn't that murder too? Its pretty painful. When the animal's throat is sliced, the animal will soon pass out. Its far less painful than how nature does it. Slaughtering is not murder. Killing a creature and then consuming it is not murder......well.......the killing part is murder, but without the killing, there is no food.
A person once said to me that the world needs a balance of good and evil.
JigglesAndLaughter 5 months ago
@JigglesAndLaughter That doesn't make it OK to let animals suffer by human hand. We are very different to wild animals (well most of us anyway) we have evolved feelings like empathy, understanding and conscience which is why most people can see why letting animals suffer while being slaughtered for any length of time for the sake of a made up mumbo jumbo belief bullshit is wrong! Especially when we have better methods available.
scud69er 5 months ago
@JigglesAndLaughter If there will allways be a balance between good and evil then there will allways be blood, there will allways be a battlefield. I don't fight for balance, skrew that. Forward freedom, nothing else. We say we are better then animals. How? building cities? No. Speak, write, communicate? Yes.
Animals slaugther each other but if we are any better then them we will show mercy. Mercy by quick and PAINLESS death. We will gain nothing by the edge of a sword comanded by a religion.
TheIcelandicPatriot 5 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot your an idiot. thats the whole point of halal to keep the animals away from torture and pain. the certain vessel you cut on the neck instantly kills them with no pain felt. have you seen how the big companies have there animals are butchered. its straight cruelty.
nycolombian91 4 months ago
The company that i buy all my meat from puts animals to sleep and before they are killed they are treated nicely. I know because i have seen it. I have seen many people killing animals in a Halal fashion. None of them died straight away. They all took atleast 30 seconds to die. One took over 2 minutes to die.
Have you any idea how it is for a 11 year old boy to see a sheep bleed to death? Bet you don't. I still have nightmares about it. Halal ain't clean, it ain't healthy. It's barbaric.
TheIcelandicPatriot 4 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot your an idiot. we were meant to eat meat. animals were given to us enrich ourselves with. its part of the life cycle. theres no need to put them to sleep?? lmao. with that one slice to that blood vessel they INSTANTLY die without feeling any pain. they dont take 30 idiots you idiot while there going through that seizure they are already DEAD. you sound like a fucken pussy you know not everyone is a city boy and gets mommy to feed them everything
nycolombian91 4 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot theres tons of children in rural areas who see the proccess of animal food being slaughtered. its part of life pussy grow some balls and your an idiot barbaric? the whole point of halal is to love our animals and not torture them. dont tell me about my religion. haha christians from my home country in colombia would call you a PUSSY. omg do u no what its like for an 11 year old to see a sheep die! omg!!! lmao. if it aint healthy why is kosher/halal the healthiest in america?
nycolombian91 4 months ago
If you had a child would you cover it's eyes if it was about to see a human being killed in the same way? I bet you would. Pussy? I will face 10000 muslims head on in a battle in defence of my country!! I will do anything to secure there way of life and there security. I will slay as many as i can before you take me down!! Healthy? Any meat is healthy so long as you clean it well, including halal, dog meat, frogs and pigs.
Now if you will exuse me im gona eat some bacon :)
TheIcelandicPatriot 4 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot you honestly sound like an idiot talking out of your ass. why would we kill a human being? human beings arent meant to be eaten. what kind of logic are you using? lol clean animals were given for humans to eat its part of the life cycle and we have to kill them somehow. ummm ok i see you got a weird thing against muslims lol stop watching so much CNN buddy.
nycolombian91 4 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot idk what your point is and why your trying to argue facts its known that kosher/halal meat and products are some of the healthiest on the market. why do you think most kosher consumers in america come from non jews/muslims who are just trying to eat organic? do you think you sound smart talking out of your ass? go look at the scientific facts behind halal killing. its the best for animals and lol ok good for you go eat some bacon and die of a heart attack while your at it
nycolombian91 4 months ago
What part of slowly dying do you not understand?You cut any type of animals throat and it will not die staright away.It will bleed to death and the pain will be emmence.
I have seen no scientific evidence that Halal meat is the cleanest but even if it is i will never eat an animal that has suffered.No matter how clean and how good it is my love for animals simply wont allow it.
I know many people who have eaten pork meat for over 50 years and they are as healthy as a horse.
Pork unclean my ass.
TheIcelandicPatriot 4 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot what are you brain dead? am i talking to a wall or something? why are you arguing science? you are an athiest right? look at the scientific facts behind the halal killing the vain that is sliced causes instant death just cause its still moving around it doesnt mean its alive. seriously are you mentally challenged?? lmao. so if my head gets cut off and i no longer have circulation to my brain im still going to feel pain two minutes? lmaooo hahahaha this kids an idiot!!!
nycolombian91 4 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot you have no scientific evidence? its this easy idiot type it on google. wtf is wrong with you we do halal for the non torture of animals. thats the whole point of it why would we want it to have a slow painful death? your a fucking idiot bro seriously if an animal could talk theyd probably call you an idiot. good for them theyve been eating pork for 50 years so are we still going to argue science?? LMAO healthy as a horse???
nycolombian91 4 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot pig eat and live in there own shit. they have the worst digestive system out of any animal in the world which is why bacteria stays in there fat cells. hundreds of the worlds deadliest diseases have come from pigs. now pork is healthy to you!?!?! lmaooo am i talking to a 10 year old? a scientist would spit in your face bro.
nycolombian91 4 months ago
My neighbor is a senior research scientist at food and health organication of Iceland.I get most information about food from her.She has never spit in my face.And you do know that we clean our food before we eat it?Mmm light pinkish pork with bacon on top with some hot sauce on it,can make your mouth mealt:)But i suppose i should thank you muslims for not eating pork.More bacon for oss then:)
O and if your a muslim i ain't your bro.Im your worst nightmare.Il see you in 2015 on some battlefield.
TheIcelandicPatriot 4 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot your neighbor would call you one dumb mother fucker if you tried to argue pork is healthy. ahahahahaha! thats cool like i said go be a fat fuck and eat some bacon lol eat allllll the fried pork in the world you can pleaseeee!!! and ok battlefield? lol your just weird. id be more worried about the day you face your creator.
nycolombian91 4 months ago
@nycolombian91 I like pork just as much as the next western man/woman. And not that this matters but my body burns food much faster then an average human. Meaning i can't get fat. Well it's very hard. And i speak to my neighbor allmost every day. She eats it and finds nothing dirty about it. Creator? I face him everyday. He slept with my mother. We call them fathers :) If god exists then he is either a cruel murderer or useless.
TheIcelandicPatriot 4 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot i dont care what your point is i dont care who likes pork. the point is you said pork is as healthy as any other meat. that couldve been the dumbest shit ive heard on youtube yet lol. your going to compare pork an animal who eats there own shit and cant even digest there food correctly to an animal like a cow who only eats greens and has one of the most advanced digestive systems out there killing most bacterias?
nycolombian91 4 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot your an idiottttt a nutritionist would be like wtf is wrong with this kid. it has nothing to do with being skinny or fat! lmao you can be the skinniest kid and be unhealthy as shit if all you eat is Mcdonalds and other bullshit. stop talking out of your ass what are you mentally challenged and have an imaginary nutritionist neighbor? are you going to tell me 2+2=5 also? lol this dumbass kid man telling me pork is ok to eat lmaoo and this has nothing to do with religion.
nycolombian91 4 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot and who created your father? why is God a cruel murderer?
nycolombian91 4 months ago
My grandfather and a WW2 veteran created my father and his father before him. If im gona go further to the past then I could name Homo Erectus or Homo Habilis, even further Sahelanthropus Tchadensis.
If he exists then he is the biggest criminal and a murderer the world has ever seen. If he made the world then he allsoe made plagues and such missery. Not to mention he could stop all war we fight by simply showing himself. We all fight ower who's right when this god could simply stop that.
TheIcelandicPatriot 4 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot and who created the sahelanthropus tchadensis? how is he a murderer? any corruption you see on this planet was created by greedy man. he gave us free will. if people choose to be evil and cause poverty and diseases around the world thats Gods fault? he gave us this universe to act as we will. those people with evil hearts will be punished after this life. this life is nothing.
nycolombian91 4 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot why would he stop all war? we are the stupid humans who caused it and we should fix it. you do understand if God is real then if you die from war that means nothing right? i really dont understand why you think what God just stop our stupid mistakes like we shouldnt pay for them and learn from them and he will stop everything one day and thats the day of judgement. you need to give me a better argument
nycolombian91 4 months ago
As for the war part. Two religions often fight against each other, he could simply come down here and say, your right and your wrong or your both wrong. It's that simple. If i die from war that means nothing? If me dying on a battlefield means that my family will survive one more day free then thats worth it.
If i died jumping on a grenate so safe my fellow man then thats worth it. I do not fear feath, i fear the death of my people.
All wars have an end and a begining.
TheIcelandicPatriot 4 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot he is going to come down here. Most religions are waiting on that. So what your trying to argue is already going to happen. If you want to look at in a scientific point of view our life compared to the relativity of the universe is nothing. were nothing. death is nothing. in a religious aspect this life is nothing compared to the next. this isnt even .00000001% of the next life. so you act as if us dying is so horrible that we wont be rewarded after
nycolombian91 4 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot now rewarded meaning if you did good deeds lived a good life and believed in the creator. you have some horrible points. its God fault that were all greedy piece of shit humans? well most of us. dont worry for the ones who have suffered horribly in life theyll live like kings in the next life. the real life.
nycolombian91 4 months ago
@nycolombian91 I see your under the illusion that there is something better after your death.
There is only this life thats why i make the most of it, so should you. We only have around 80 years there for i will enjoy as much of it as i can while im here. You can pray to your god that he will grant you a better life or you can help make this world great. This is not my paradise, not his and not yours. This is OUR home there for we must stand as one so we can make it a true paradise.
TheIcelandicPatriot 4 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot ok man if you feel comfortable with a life of pain, suffering, studying, working etc and one day your just going to rot in the dirt fine with me but God has showed us many proofs and if you still want to deny thats fine by me. stop letting the media fool your small peanut brain. w.e you think about islam its not the truth. the quran is a miraculous creation and no were not some psychos who follow some Bullshit lol really come on now. youve been warned.
nycolombian91 4 months ago
What proofs of existance of god do you have?And some 2000 or 1400 year old book ain't no proof. Media?The only media i watch are the weater forecast and TYT but those ain't news.What i considder pain and suffering are many things,few of them are sexism,animal cruelty,anti freedom for the people just to name a few.There are many types of psychos in the world,such as child molester,ruthless murderers, sexists,racists just to name a few.
Warned?Ha ha ha what you gona do?kill me?Ha ha Do try it :)
TheIcelandicPatriot 4 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot lol this isnt no silly bible fairy tale. theres thousands upon thousands of proofs. thousands of scientific miracles that were just discovered last century were in the quran 1400 years ago. same with prophecies and mathematical miracles. the quran has NEVER changed in 1400 years. its a miracle for literature to way to hard to explain that part youd have to look into it.
nycolombian91 4 months ago
@nycolombian91 What scientific proofs are that? Because i have never heard of them. Reading is a personal hobby of mine and i can tell you that all the world most brightest scientist have never been able to find a single proof of some spaketti deity.
Why has the Bible changes few times? To adopt to a modern society. Something i like to call human progress.
TheIcelandicPatriot 4 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot ok type in on google scientific miracles of the quran and learn for yourself
/watch?v=0rdIB6YMfPE
theres a scientist confirming the qurans credibility. you really need to stop talking outside of your ass and calling your opinions fact it really doesnt make you look intelligent lol. blah blah blah the quran is full of human progress the islamic golden age was the one who took your europeans out of the med evil times.
nycolombian91 4 months ago
@nycolombian91 for the link add youtube. com first and then the rest
nycolombian91 4 months ago
Aaa the 50's such a different world back then :) Those scientist if you can call them that have been dead for what, 30 years. Intellegent? I never said i was but what i can is read and see hatred.
The Qu'ran degrades womens and treats them nothing more then cattle. Gays are not allowed and if you don't supmitt/(Be a slave) to Allah you are to spent your rest of eternity in hell.
One actor once said. There prophet says supmitt. Jesus says, deside.
Hmm be a muslim or be free? I choose Freedom :)
TheIcelandicPatriot 4 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot huh? so are you discrediting einstein and sigmund freud since there from the early 1900s? the points your making are incredibly stupid. its this simple. the quran talked about scientific facts that were only discovered last century. that simple. the quran degrades women? lol shut the fuck up man. where r u from the middle of no where? have u ever talked to a muslim woman? how are they degraded? nothing more then cattle lmao i deadass think your mentally challenged
nycolombian91 4 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot of course fuck gays lol u faggot. you think its natural to get a dick up your ass. your just a horny nasty fuck whos creepy and likes to do perverted shit. wtf what kind of a religion isnt a slave to God??? of course im a slave to God lol if your not then u cant consider yourself muslim/christian/jewish etc. jesus said decide!?!?! lmaooo wtf!!! ok how as a muslim were not free? im sorry we dont fuck guys dress like sluts and do drugs lol wooo freedom!
nycolombian91 4 months ago
The very essence of freedom is to not serve any master and do what ever you want but the freedom i fight for is simple. You make your own choices in life, you and you alone can controle your own destiny. I am willing to serve a ruler, a ruler that fights for the people by the people. Allah wants more then people serving him. He wants total domination there for you can't do anything without him agreeing to it.
Gay rights are nothing about sex you ignorant bigot. It's about LIBERTY!!!!!
TheIcelandicPatriot 4 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot serve are master? lmao you sound like such an idiot. the advice the bible/torah/quran give are only for the best of us. its good advice just as ghandia or a buddha would give you. wtf r u sayin lmao. sorry our master says dont kill, love your parents, work hard, help the poor, have a good heart etc etc. Allah is your creator fool whats wrong with him wanting respect from the people. he made u and will kill u watch. and stfu u dirty anal loving fruit cake. go get some pussy
nycolombian91 4 months ago
@nycolombian91 You sound like a muslim extremist that kills for fun :) Buddha does not hurt a soul, when Allah clearly wants all infidels dead. I do help the poor, one third of my money goes to Africa, Nigeria to be exact.
So because i want freedom and equality for ALL i have a bad heart? Again no proofs for Allah or any other god exist. A hole is a hole and i would be cheating on my bf if i would get some pussy but i love both.
Fruit good, Cake good, Fruitcake nasty crap.
TheIcelandicPatriot 4 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot and you honestly sound like a kid with aspergers syndrome on youtube. where do i sound like i like to kill for fun??? God doesnt want infedels dead wtf are you talking about. who the fuck r u to tell me about my religion. stop readin hate sites your making yourself look so stupid. you have no intelligence behind any of your claims. bad heart?? WTF are you talking about lol w.e you say faggot like i say u prob been warned by many youll face your creator one day
nycolombian91 4 months ago
Are you saying i lack communication skill?Your the very first to say that.You pray to a war hungry child molester,sounds like you like to kill the inocent.Let me get my Q book*flips pages*Heres one,
Fight and slay the pagans(or infidels,unbelievers)wherever you find them.Surah(9:5)
As to those who reject faith,I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter,nor will they have anyone to help(Qu'ran 3:56)
I tell you about your religion just as you do with my freedom.Next-
TheIcelandicPatriot 4 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot so if my head gets cut off im going to feel pain!?!? how do i feel pain if my nerves are conneced to my brain. lmao dummy!! why are you taking things out of context you dont even no wtf your reading. that surah 9.5 is supposed to be the final days when the anti christ soldiers go to war against the God believers jewish, muslim or christian. were suppose to kill them that day. that doesnt pertain to this time.
nycolombian91 3 months ago
Hate sides? I read and watch truth, just like in this video on how the slay animals.
You say im not intellegent and i say your not. It goes back and forward :) You mentioned something about bad heart in you other text or have you forgot?
You say your religon is peacefull when they have never showned that and the fact that you use the word faggot ain't helping you.
If you would be peacefull you would never speak hatred to any types of people, no matter what they did or what they are.
TheIcelandicPatriot 4 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot you are literally the definition of ignorance. your going to tell someone about there own religion lmao. did you even watch this video?you dont see the respect given to these chickens compared to slaughter houses? your a very weird person lol. your right i shouldnt have to talk like that and thats wrong of me but ill say it one more time and i hope God forgives me. you been warned u little athiest faggot. lol and i said sry are master says have a good heart learn how to read
nycolombian91 4 months ago
Your cleary either trying to hide the fact that your religion is hatefull or your just extremely ignorant...or both. I did watch this video but i haven't done so in a long time. My slaughter house kills animals by gas. I asked them how that worked and they said the gas makes them feal sleepy so they simply fall asleep and don't wake up. I find that much better then taking a knife, slitting the animals throat and allowing it to bleed to death.It's hard to understand something wich is not spelled-
TheIcelandicPatriot 3 months ago
-Right. I can speak and write English, Icelandic, French and little bit in German. You?
TheIcelandicPatriot 3 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot yes and to those like you who mock Gods name your punishment is going to be something you couldnt even imagine on this planet. you better believe that. hahahahahaha yea ok your an idiot i can tell your not even a smart athiest your going to teach someone about there religion. are you going to teach a mathematician math also?? lmao
nycolombian91 3 months ago
@nycolombian91 I mock anyone who kills inocent people and inslaves the mind so yes i dare to mock Allah because i dare to live free. Atheist don't have to be scientist, high school teachers, politictians. Atheist belive in science and human progress. They come from all classes. Rich, poor, doctors, carpenders. Mathematic's?
That has nothing to do with this arguement but it is a part of science there for i study that with great pashion.
TheIcelandicPatriot 3 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot whos killing innocent people? the worse sin in islam is to murder. lol why does your brain work so weird? i said were supposed to kill the helpers of the anti christ. the anti christ is going to be the devil lol his helpers will chop your head off without hesitation for fun. science is in the quran. science goes hand and hand with islam unlike christianity. so go study the scientific miracles in the quran type that in on google and youll feel stupid.
nycolombian91 3 months ago
Science can work with religion but thats limited. To study science without any fear, to go as far as our wits can go. That can't be done with religion brething down our necks. You pray to a child molester,Im no geneus but compaired to a smart muslim im a wunderkind. Islam banns killings ey? Perhaps thats why you killed 2000 inocent civillians 10 years ago,perhaps thats why it sais kill all infidels in the Qu'ran.
Anti christ or a muslims?An enemy of my enemy is my friend so i pick anti christ :)
TheIcelandicPatriot 3 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot man what are you talking about. your talking on a christian point of view. things how there bible says the earth is only 3500 year old. lmao that shit dont exact in the quran. the quran claims we had a animal and plant kingdom before humans roamed the earth. theres so much to it please stop calling your opinion facts how ignorant can you get? do you usually speak upon nothing you know about and think your right? lol
nycolombian91 3 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot like i said look at the scientific facts in the quran. type in scientific miracles of the quran on google. i pray to a child molester!?! lmao God molested kids?? are you on crack lmfaooo. i killed 2000 civilians?? seriously are you high lmfao. your going to base 10 lunatic 3rd world ignorant terrorists on a people of 1.2 billion followers. shit if we believed in killing u wouldnt be alive right now.
nycolombian91 3 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot btw DUMBASS im FROM NEW YORK CITY and my aunts husband who is muslim passed away in those twin towers. please watch your fucken mouth your a joke even new yorkers would laugh at u i PROMISE you that. your a fool i feel like im talking to some redneck KKK member. you dumb mother fucker i explained what the infedel thing was and it was translated wrong in english in ancient arabic it says FIGHT the infedels. but ignorant terrorist take it out of context.
nycolombian91 3 months ago
@nycolombian91 As a New Yorker and a english speaking person you should know what racist means.
I hate islam yes i do not deny it but do i hate there color? No and why? because it is just a color. Victory does not come without scrifice, i guess muslims use that motto too. If most muslims don't agree with extremist why don't you do something about it? The U.S army found Osama in a fine penthouse suit in the best neighborhood in Pakistan. Makes you wonder.
P.S Been to New York two times.
TheIcelandicPatriot 3 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot man shut the fuck up. youve talked pure bullshit. your not even an intelligent athiest. ive shut all your claims down easily. blah blah blah. why dont we do something about it? yea man let me go talk against a terrorist right now so he can blow fucken head off right? fuck osama wtf u bringin up that devil for. what r u fucken stupid lmao look at your childish arguments. fuck osama and fuck the us GOVT and fuck you. wow u been to NY cool lmaooo fucken faggot.
nycolombian91 3 months ago
@nycolombian91 So far as i can see you have only writen. Faggot, i win, you stupid, im smart. Is that how you win an arguement? You win an arguement by proper proofs and by speaking in a civilized manor. You have brought no proofs wich could be taken seriusly by any modern scientist. And the fact that you have to use foal language to try to win some arguement just shows your ignorance even more.
Well have a jolly good New Yorkian day :)
TheIcelandicPatriot 3 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot if thats all you can see what i written then your truly a dumbass. real simple. is that how i win an argument. ive replied to EVERY ignorant statement u said and every time you shut up and switch to things like this. you dodge any debate. lol ok man. im glad i proved how much of a dumbass you were. you suck at being an athiest lmao.
nycolombian91 3 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot its to easy FAGGOT lmaoo. reread every single comment and i shut u up every time. even on the last comment i shut you up about osama and before that about 9/11 and about halal (if i cut my head off how do i feel pain without my nerves?) the list goes on and on
nycolombian91 3 months ago
@nycolombian91 Awww how cute :) You think you have won. Somethimes you crack me up :)
Cutting someones throat is not the same as cutting of the head. Easy to faggot? Easy to have gay sex you mean? Not for straight people.
TheIcelandicPatriot 3 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot lol ok. the main vessel in the throat thats cut off is the blood circulation to the brain. i dont understand how your trying to argue science. lol this guy man. its known its an INSTANT kill. why would most animal activists in america eat kosher/halal??? lmao
nycolombian91 3 months ago
@nycolombian91 I am a member of international help organication for velfare of animals and i know many people who are in it. None of wich eat Halal or Kosher. They are either vegetarians or regular meat eaters.
Again there is cutting and there is cutting. How deep, how long, high on the throat or low, Is someone there to hold the wound. You cutt a mans throat just lighty and not deep, he/she can well survive or die slowly.
TheIcelandicPatriot 3 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot you arent a member of shit. you have to resort to lies now? nice man you just keep proving how well you are a debating. im astonished man i really am. intelligent athiest we got here yup. its a fact the majority of kosher consumers in america are organic and animal activist eaters. muslims dont even buy halal we cant afford it and jews are to cheap to spend 5x the price of meat. theres a reason its so expensive.
nycolombian91 3 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot the knife that is used has to be so sharp it will slice your finger off by just touching it. look at a halal killing and you will even see the one huge blood vessel that is killed. thats the main vessel from the brain that transport blood. wound!?!? WHAT WOUND THEY INSTANTLY DIE. there not just cutting the throat like some movie its a blood vessel that gets cut. your seriously arguing science with me right now. this has nothing to do with religion,
nycolombian91 3 months ago
@nycolombian91 Do you wana know how many times i have seen animals being killed in a Halal way?
I have lost count of it. Do you know how many times i have seen an animal die straight away? 3 times and those were all chickens. A person can lose all hands and legs on a battlefield and still live for few seconds.
If i were to slit your troat the likelyness of you dying on the same second are close to nill.
TheIcelandicPatriot 3 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot whattt? if you seen halal you wouldnt be complaining. wtf you comparing hands and legs to the main blood vessel that connects to your brain. what a stupid comparison. your just making yourself look stupid. you never saw halal lol you resort to lies now? idk wtf your arguing. if you were to slit the vein on my throat that connects to my brain id instantly die. im not talking about just slicing aany part of the throat. your such a joke stop arguin science.
nycolombian91 3 months ago
@nycolombian91 If you hold your breath down you don't die. I if would cutt your throat and someone would try to stop the bleeding you could survive. Why do i think so? Because my uncle's troat was cutt during a bar fight. He's still very much alive. He has a huge scar but yes he's live and kicking. And as for lying, I do not need to lie to win this arguement, i did that about a week ago. Lying gets oss no were. Truth shall set oss free but if you deny the truth your only hurting yourself.
TheIcelandicPatriot 3 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot i really dont understand what your trying to argue. lol. your talking about just some regular old slit to the throat. im talking about that one main blood vessel (fuck i forgot the name) that once its cut your dead. lol no saving. i mean your just an idiot comparing bar fights to this. seriously if your an animal activists why do all animal activists buy kosher food? you really need to look more into what it is. stop being so ignorant.
nycolombian91 3 months ago
@nycolombian91 What we are arguing is the morality of Halal food making. I think it's only humain if you kill an animal by sleeping gas but you think it's fine to slit there throat and there for they bleed to death. Your the one praying to a religion that is allmost 100% male dominance and that has a child molester as a prophet.
And your calling me an idiot ha ha ha :) I have spoken, whent to many meetings and i have never, not once met nor heard of an animal lover that eats Kosher or Halal.
TheIcelandicPatriot 3 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot im going to keep asking you over and over again. so why are most of the kosher consumers in america non muslim or jewish and the buyers are organic/ ex vegan/ and animal activist? im waitin for an answer. HOW DO THEY BLEED TO DEATH IF THEY INSTANTLY DIE. do you have a brain!?!?!? am i arguing with a mentally challenged individual?? your so weird wow.
nycolombian91 3 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot your an idiot. why do you keep calling your opinion fact? your ignorance is so sad. 100% male dominance?? wtf a muslim woman would laugh at you. we have a whole chapter dedicated to women. lmao child molestor?? how is he a child molestor!?!?!? show me your proof???? LMAO YOU NEVER HEARD OF AN ANIMAL LOVER EAT KOSHER??? you are weirddddddddd
nycolombian91 3 months ago
You may call me what ever you like but that does not make it true.I call many of my opinions fact because those i say are a fact i have read,heard and seen.Can a muslim woman choose to take of her vale in Saudi Arabia,drive,marry who they like,if she's gay can she come out?And amongst many other things.If they would do any of these things they would either be arrested or killed.As for the child molester part,Does the name Aisha ring any bells?The west does not have animal lovers eating pour meat
TheIcelandicPatriot 3 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot show me your proof where it says halal killing is inhumane? show me one valid document. you havent seen nothing dumbass all you can do is resort to lies its easy to spot out a liar. yes you dumbass lmao a woman doesnt have to wear her vale in islam. thats HER choice. she does it for God are you retarted saudi arabia is just as modern as america lmao what do you think they live in the stone age or something hahaha.
nycolombian91 3 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot yes she can marry who she pleases, yes she can drive (its not against the law), and no she cant be gay. sorry fag boy lol. lmao she woud be killed? hahahaha listen to this CNN brainwashed dumbass propaganda. yeah your soooooooo smart lmao. yes Aisha dumbass are you going to speak without knowing knowledge of the topic wow bro you really arent ignorant lmao man athiest are sooooo smart.
nycolombian91 3 months ago
Saudi Arabia is the only country in the world that prohibits women from driving. Thats not my words, thats wikipedia. I know a ex muslim woman, she had her face burned because she fell in love with an icelandic none muslim man, she's my friend. she was able to flee Jordan when her husband took her to the british embassy, with a burned face. But king Abdullah is trying to change that. He's trying to give womens the rights they have been denied to. Soon they will be able to vote, drive and more :)
TheIcelandicPatriot 3 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot exactly saudia arabia is the only country in the world. does that mean islam!?!? NO. no where in the quran does it say women cant drive lol and personally i think saudi is stupid for that law. you do not know a ex muslim woman who had her face burnt lmao thats such bullshit. that is such terrible sin and if a man did that he will be punished by God. thats horrible exactly king abdullah is a good guy what does this have to do with islam??
nycolombian91 3 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot and if you do know a woman who was mistreated like that its cause those stupid jordan people are 3rd world savages. there 3rd world savages who are christian and athiest also. dont blame the religion over some mans mistake.
nycolombian91 3 months ago
@nycolombian91 Personally i know 2 Jordanian, 5 Saudi Arabians, 2 Egyptians, 1 Morrocoan, 3 Algerians and 2 from Oman that have fleed there countries and come here, two muslim gay couples wich i can't disclose where they are.
If you have the time i would like you to watch a video on YouTube called
MUSLIM WOMAN TELLS THE TRUTH ABOUT ISLAM. Excuse the caps letters. It's pretty much just a regular muslim woman on a muslim tv channel speaking her mind.
TheIcelandicPatriot 3 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot if you know this many arabs then how in the world can you be this ignorant lmao. you know where i stand about gays. lol your going to teach me about my religion. how stupid are you how about if you have the time read the chapter in the quran called the woman. it wont take long. shut the hell up with your youtube videos and pick up a quran for yourself and see there free anyways.
nycolombian91 3 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot omg man are you serious? how much of a joke are you. can you at LEAST BRING UP VALID POINTS. did you really just send me to a hate site? lmaooo do you even know what memri tv is?? its own by jews!! jews who hate muslims! why the fuck you going to show me an arab channel owned by israelis come on do you have a brain?? lmaooo have you seen the rest of the bullshit on memri tv clips on youtube. you do know those channels are banned in the middle east
nycolombian91 3 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot and you claim youtube is silly and overrated and youd rather go to a book for the real info. well obviously any intelligent mind would say that so if you spend SO MUCH TIME hating islam at least waste 20 mins on the religion you hate so much and see what its truly about so you can at least know what your hating. like i said go pick up a quran its not going to burn your hands lmao and read the chapter the woman or the very first 10 pages and your going to see you
nycolombian91 3 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot see you have ABSOLUTELY no idea what your talking about and why dont you sit with a professional who knows the animal business and ask them to scientifically explain halal methods and WHY its done. stop being so rude and ignorant and how dare you expect a muslim dont get mad at you when you so hatefully and disgustingly say things. grow up man.
nycolombian91 3 months ago
Rude and hatefull, me? To you yes but if you have not noticed i have not said a single foal language since we started arguing. I don't need them but it seems you do. It very simple, you cut anyones throat
and it won't be pleasant. Why do you do it? Because you think it will make the meat clean if the animal suffers.
Professional? I know a few, the head of PETA is one that fights strongly against Halal.
Im a realistic man. Scientific proofs are my thing. You simply need a 1400 year old book.
TheIcelandicPatriot 3 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot yeah ok man w.e you say your not hateful to muslims LOL. you think you not saying foul language hides your cowardly heart behind closed doors? i cut anyones throat. LMAO. oh man. wtf we dont do it to make the mean clean?? the FIRST priority is to make sure the animal goes through the least pain it can. God gave us permission to eat meat as long as we did it with justice. who is this head of PETA? and i told u theres a bunch of scientific proofs in the quran.
nycolombian91 3 months ago
The Qu'ran is a religious fanatical book wich has no place in a modern society. No offence :)
Ingrid Newkirk head and Co founder of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. She's even more of a animal friend then i am. If an animal does not know it's a about to die and dies without even knowing it then that is a good way. The animal must not suffer, not for one second and it must not know it either.
Your right i have been hatefull but then again so have you so....I guess we are even.
TheIcelandicPatriot 3 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot lol ok man w.e you say the quran is fake and im just a lunatic lol. w.e you say we do halal to hurt animals lol were going to see whos right when were dead right? ok soon enough and better hope your right buddy or your in for a rudeeee awakening =]
nycolombian91 3 months ago
@nycolombian91 Fake? No no the Qu'ran is very much real but that does not make it right. Im not quet sure if i would call you a lunatic. You simply belive strongly in your faith wich i can't say is very pro Earth.
And even if there is a god and your right i won't regret anything because god has done nothing to this world exept creat conflict, disseas and other shit.
A king is born, is it our duty to serve him? No, for a leader to have followers it has to be earned, not fored upon.
TheIcelandicPatriot 3 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot lol ok man w.e you say. yeah man im not pro Earth -__- w.eeee you say. God has created conflict!?!?!?! you mean us stupid greedy humans have created conflict. God gave you free will to pick and choose what you want and if there is a God like you say this world is shit it dont mean nothing so when you die it doesnt matter. dont compare God to a king your a measly human your nothing compared to your creator whos divine. lmao God the one who made u needs to earn your respec wow
nycolombian91 3 months ago
We did create conflict but if god was real and if he was good then he could stop all conflict in like 30 second. This world ain't shit, i never said that but many humans are trying to make it shit. When i die i die, nothing glorious or painfull. Thats why im trying with every breath i have to enjoy myself and to better the world.
More insults i see....I will compair god with a snake anyday of the week. If a murderer gives birth to a kid and hits it and such that kid ows his father nothing.
TheIcelandicPatriot 3 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot why should he stop what we did? and he could stop it before you even blink your eyes actually. you never heard the expression you reap what you sow and all scriptures claim there will be a day there is peace so yes he is going to stop it but things are going to get a lot world on this corrupt planet. lol ok man w.e you say youll face your creator one day i dont care about your business.
nycolombian91 3 months ago
@nycolombian91 If he is good, if he is kind then he would help oss just as parents split up there children when they fight. But he does not so he either does not exist or he's cruel. Just because someone is a maker does not give him/her/it the right to do what ever it wants. The only thing i will face near my death is either a bullet fired from your people on some battlefield or old age.
P.S. Just got to ask, what do you mean by the w.e?
TheIcelandicPatriot 3 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot lol lets say God (creator of the universe) not the christian God where they believe a man is God. that higher power it keeps the whole entire universe moving is God. now who are you to say what your creator should do? lol man your buggin we reap what we sow its that simple. why does God have to fix it? us humans can fix it ourselves before he needs to intervene. why would my people kill you its against islam? i dont know whos people your talkin bout lol and w.e is what ever
nycolombian91 3 months ago
@nycolombian91 If god is good and peacefull he would help oss. We throw people in prison when they kill people. If god was a man he would be worse then Hitler. Fixing this and that but we can never totally agree.
We will never acept islam and you have shown many times your disslike for that. There for i am sertant there will be a war between oss. But i am not afraid because you stand little chance of winning :)
Now if you will excuse me im gona go back to my tee drinking :)
TheIcelandicPatriot 3 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot God does help his believers. lol i dont understand why you keep sayin he should come down and help us out of no where when we caused these problems as humans we can fix the world ourselves. we dont need God to intervene yet. most of the corruption on this world has nothing to do with religion. bro stand little chance of winnin? lmao your an idiot like i said you sound like the KKK and well see whos right when were dead. lmao.
nycolombian91 3 months ago
@nycolombian91 Funny how every time i stand up against you people you say im racist. Are you white, black, yellow, pink, green? I don't care what color you have. I care whom you serve. Your people? Or your religion, it can't be both. We can fix it no doupt but not without much bloodshed and missery. I do think we can win when we have more in...well...everything, technology, manpower, nukes, allies, honor, freedom. Allthough we can be a bit careless but it's all good :)
TheIcelandicPatriot 3 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot whattt? your going to claim your not racist to people of the muslim faith? lmao man shut up. whos talkin about color? racism doesnt only apply to color. whats in that little small peanut size brain of yours. ok man w.e you say will see if you win against God. just wait til death if you fall to the dirt and mix with shit and thats the end of your life then your right but if you see the creator be prepared for a horrible punishment. take care.
nycolombian91 3 months ago
@nycolombian91 I supose race goes with culture awell but i don't hate muslim as a people no. I hate what your religion stands for and there for i clash with many muslims. But i must say muslim females are a lot politer then you guys. Atleast those who are allowed to own a computer. I do not wish any harm to your people and family unless they do harm, just as i wish harm to a sereal killer and a rapist and not 10 year old school girls selling cookies.
TheIcelandicPatriot 3 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot lol ok well you need to stop talking to people on the internet you know how pathetic that is. pull over a muslim sit and talk with him and i BET your opinion will change and ok theres your point you wish harm on the serial killer. exactly you wish harm on the terrorist not a muslim because we dont believe in killing or any of that bullshit you see on BBC lol. if anything ill join you to beat the crap outta some terrorist.
nycolombian91 3 months ago
@nycolombian91 Then we do not totally dissagree. I simply wish to harm those who are a threat to my people and way of life. I have no wish to attack you but a large amount of muslims have done dammage to my people so naturally some have great disstaske for islam. Those people who have done dammage have sometimes ussed bombs but allsoe inforcement and terror of the people. If you wish to live here i welcome it but you must obey our laws for if you don't there shall be clashing of civilizations.
TheIcelandicPatriot 3 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot theres no threat from muslims i promise you. those who have done bombs?!?!? those arent even muslims. terrorists dont even make up 3% of muslims. there 1.4 billion muslims in the world!! man you are buggin.......
nycolombian91 3 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot how many muslims have killed americans in the past 30 years? and then how many americans have killed muslims in the past 30 years...hmmm makes you think whos the real terrorist.
nycolombian91 3 months ago
Exelent point indeed.We have slain many and for that i am ashamed for.But our laws clearly state,do no harm to inocent civillians,we can't allways follow them but we do try.Thy wish to strike oss?Strike soldiers not the inocent.
War is a soldiers game,not civillians.
Have you been to Paris sir?Venecia?Malmö?Copenhagen?Oslo?
I have and in all those cities i have either been asulted by your kind or the police banned me from entering some sections of the city.
If you wont stop yourself, We will.
TheIcelandicPatriot 3 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot dont harm innocent civilians. when wikileaks dropped it showed over 300,000 people have been killed in iraq and afghanistan and al quaeda doesnt even make up 5% of the population of each country. HMMM. youve been assaulted by 3rd world uneducated idiots. dont blame the religion blame the people. if i went to colombia or brazil 3rd world idiots would act stupid. what do u expect when you mix religion, ignorance, and poverty?
nycolombian91 3 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot dont blame the religion over stupid peoples actions. there obviously not following islam right and i bet not everyone is crazy in oslo or paris like you exaggerate. im sure theres MANY peaceful muslims. over here in america the muslims are soooooo peaceful and nice. it cant be that different then europe. umm what do you mean we wont stop? do u mean terrorist? what do u expect me to do HEY TERRORIST STOP. so he can blow my brain off?
nycolombian91 3 months ago
@nycolombian91 What is a terrorist? A person that blows himself up? Possibly more? Here in Europe you want special rights like no other. If we build a church there you want a mosque at the same place and much bigger.
We may not say or do anything against islam otherwise we will be threatend or killed. When you move to our countries most of you don't migle with oss, we offer you jobs but you prefear to take our benefits, you don't live in the same streets as oss (Continue)
TheIcelandicPatriot 3 months ago
@nycolombian91 Even when you have every right to do so. You prefear to live in one comunity where other people are simply no welcomed. I walked into one of your comunities in Sweden and i won't do that again uless i have a gun. When you protest and demand sharia those peacefull muslims are nowhere to be found.
European muslims are like a vaccume cleaner. You take and take but give nothing in return.
TheIcelandicPatriot 3 months ago
They are peaceful in Europe and America because they are still little portion. Once they obtain power you will see the real face of Islam.It happens in many spots of the world. For example, in Chychany when the Muslims believe that Russia began to lose its power after the end of the cold war, they declaired Juhad and killed many innocent Russian in order to establish Islamic state and steal the land and its resource but thanks god The Russian troops could wiped them out.
Emad121 2 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot Aicha ended up being one of the most holy women in islam and God sent muhammed to marry her. muhammed married aichia at 9 but just cause it was commanded and it was for a reason. he didnt do anything with her or conceive here til 14/15 and in those times it was acceptable in every civilization to be with a woman than same with guys gettin married once they were 13. lmao dumbassssss.
nycolombian91 3 months ago
@nycolombian91 She was commanded. Thats what we like to call a proplome. Reason? Wich was what?
O offcorse to please some dude that was like 40 years older then her. Offcorse other people married someone at the age of 14 no doupt but we haven't done that since?......I belive the last one was around 400-500 years ago. In some muslim parts of the world you still do it. Eee gives me the creeps.
TheIcelandicPatriot 3 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot He was commanded to have Aichia in his life. Aichia ended up being his holiest wife and was the one to preserve the quran after his death. shes very important in islam. please a dude? lol what are you talking about. yes we havent done that since?? 400 500 years ago and muhammeds time was 1400 years ago and some people in very poor villages still marry 14 year olds well religion or not your considered a woman then in 3rd world parts of the world.
nycolombian91 3 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot lol ok man w.e you say talking to you is like talking to a special ed kid man your like a wall w.e you say. your the definition of ignorance grow up and learn how to debate i shut u up easily and u dodge everything