133,000 plus viewings. Youtube fat guy playing with star wars sword and it's 20 million plus. the masses will never listen. when Noam dies his words wont though
chomsky supports the United Nations yet talks about the importance of sovereignty...not sure if he knows but the veto powers are the powers he always criticizes...ironic
@gibson9821 an institution can be supported and criticized for its faults... a lot of people just want to disband it... that is what he does not support... he wants us to join it and abide by internat'l rules
you gentiles are Pathetic Always take some jew and make him god or Messiah just like the jesus and kerl marx and know this noam chomsky did you ever wondering why is this all your biggst gods and messiah and your intellectuals from right and left are jewish and you wonder how we the jews call are self the chosen people dont diss this
comment in 100 yreas from know your kids will things that holly histroy just like your Fathers Though't demn even the arebs belive in a jewish idea of god
@MrDarkbloom i duno, he tries to make the US look just as bad as the muslim terrorists. if noam chomsky got captured by a bunch of terrorists who were yelling out "kill the jew! kill the american for Allh! Allah will protect us!" then maybe he would have a different opinion on this whole thing. with nuclear weapons present in the world, there is no way we will survive with competing religions. he pretty much believes "the problem is western society, not the islamic threat to it"
@Freethinker12341 No, Western government's policies. Not 'society'. Which is fair. Jihadists groups have no way of affecting the world a government can. It's not like you can say 'they've killed more civilians than we have'. "he tries to make the US look just as bad as the muslim terrorists." Same tactics, worse effects though. They don't have the weaponry states have. So they're not even compatible. Henceforth he didn't try to, contrary to your claim.
@MrDarkbloom the problem is religion. remember, islamic fundamentalism comes from the fundamentals of islam. regardless of whether or not there was a state of israel, the muslim culture would still be a barbaric warzone, sunni muslims killing shia muslims everyday over ancient relics and scripture differences. they will always oppress their women and make them wear burkas and veils, and indoctrinate their children with their dangerous ideas and teach them to hate infidels, arming them with AK47s
@Freethinker12341 [PART 1] I am a 26-year-old American Christian male who has lived in Egypt for 2 years (& still does), & I have read the entire Qur'an 3 times. (1) Islamic "fundamentalism" is a misnomer, which virtually any Muslim who is NOT a terrorist (99.9% of the billions of Muslims on Earth) will tell you (if you ever bothered to ask one). (2) Barbaric warzone? Sunnis killing Shia? Where are you referring to, Iraq? A country that is a *literal* warzone? [...]
@Freethinker12341 [PART 2] Even in a post-REVOLUTION Cairo, an incredibly dense city with an estimated population of more than 25 million people that is currently devoid of ANY police force (other than traffic police), I feel infinitely safer than I ever did when living in Baltimore, D.C., or Phoenix. Why? Because whenever ANY slight argument begins, the entire community intervenes to ensure the conflict is resolved. I have never seen this happen anywhere else I've ever been in the world [...]
@Freethinker12341 [PART 3] I would make the case that--Egypt, at least--is one of the most civilized places in the world, if you base the word "civilized" on the general population demonstrating a genuine concern for complete strangers, and each individual regularly striving to maintain as peaceful of a society as possible. (3) Sunni and Shia Muslims kill each other over scripture differences? Interesting, seeing as how their beliefs are based upon the EXACT SAME scripture, the Qur'an. [...]
@Freethinker12341 [PART 4] I suggest you strive to understand Islam b4 openly judging it wrongfully (like I did). (4) As someone who has personally dated more than 20 women who wear veils & one who wears a burka, I can tell you that ALL of them do so by personal choice as an expression of their own commitment to their religion. There are many women here who do NOT wear a burka or veil--also by personal choice--& are not oppressed by any men into wearing one. Not every Arab country = Saudi Arabia
@Freethinker12341 Yes, I assumed a "freethinker" was capable of reading 5 brief paragraphs... or even responding with a rational argument. I've noticed that whenever someone is in a debate and he has nothing of substance to back his own baseless claims, he instead tries to simply destroy the credibility of the more rational person. That's why I like Chomsky, because whenever he encounters people like you, he calmly responds with even more facts to support his already strong arguments.
@Freethinker12341 [PART 5] Not every Arab country = Saudi Arabia. (5) Amazing that you think AK47s are so plentiful in Muslim societies. The gun laws in Egypt are incredibly strict... people here are genuinely shocked when I tell them about America's "right to bear arms" and how comparitively simple it is for virtually any normal adult American citizen to own (multiple) loaded firearms. I can't help but wonder if they thought that my American Christian culture sounded like a "barbaric warzone."
This guy is an idiot. He talks about how we dont support spreading democracy throughout the middle east... ok last time I checked Afghanistan, and Iraq have both held democratic elections since we invaded.
@buckeyes173 the Iraqi president was not elected he lost the election and did you forgot mubarak who he won all the elections by 99% , did you forget the Iranian Sha and don't forgot that the US have killed in both countries 1000 of civilians open your eyes. US gov is EVIL not the people only the gov.search for us allies.
That's incorrect. USA has invaded Iraq and Afghanistan for the interest of american elite (e.g. oil reserves, geostrategic position and so forth ...). Statements made by US politicians that it was done in favor of spreading democray and liberating repressed nations are grotesque lies, a farse. If you conduct a little retrospecitve, you'll see that USA supported Sadam Husein in the 80's, financed and trained the islamic extremists in Afghanistan i.e. Talibans, Bin-Laden etc.
Noam Chompsy is the man with the most beautiful soul walking this earth. The day he is gone will be one of the saddest days in his admirers and loyal followers life time. This man is a real hero
he says its in us countries to support totalitarian arab governments to get their oil...every heard of OPEC and the 1970's oil shocks you fucking retard
@BushidoCode72 Do you actually have any counter-argument to anything Chomsky has said and or written about? So he makes money? If you don't make money you don't eat. I'm a raging Anti-Capitalist I work a wage job does that mean I can't criticize Capitalism? I opt into the system for the same reason as everyone else, if I don't, I don't eat and I won't have a fucking roof over my head.
You go all ad hoc in your arguments because you can't refute the facts.
Yesssss,oil oil oil,rape,pillage,greed,terrorize,the propaganda machine is well maintained for people in the west to believe we actually have a right to be there.Thank you Mr.Chomsky at least if I am crazy I am in good company.Indeed ES is a schmuck,now Rex Murphy would have been alot more fun ;-)
Post 9/11 Chomsky began charging much more for his speeches. He charges anywhere between 15,000 and 50,000 for his speeches, That's capitalism. Charging credit cards per minute of his web sites to listen to him, is capitalism. Attacking The Pentagon as an "evil institution" while making 100,000s from the Pentagon while at MIT, is just wrong. This man is fake. And his facts on Middle East are just wrong.
@BushidoCode72 Are you copy and pasting these comments on any and all Chomsky clips? It's apparent you don't understand capitalism. It's apparent you're only vaguely familiar with Chomsky and his worldview. Your comments are poorly constructed and frankly embarrassing. Pick up a book and read son.
Well If as you say he is a fake he makes incredibly valid intelligent points that I don't see any real people making. Whatever theories you have on his profit making from these lectures I don't think it matters to me.He's making points that I believe to be true and nobody else is standing up and making them. America supports Israel for Jewish votes and It's pretty sick how a nation once tortured by Nazi's can be so nasty to other human beings ie Palestinians.
Chomsky is a first rate capitalist and even worse, a War Profiteer. He isn't poor. He took hundreds of thousands from the Pentagon while working for MIT. His unemployed brother lives in multimillion dollar home, and Chomsky charges by the minute for his speeches (post 9/11 he charges more .. of course). THe man is a filthy rich capitalis, and a fraud. He lives in US because he makes MILLIONS. You guys who follow him are brainwashed IDIOTS
@BushidoCode72 A war profiteer? Am I missing the apparent obvious fact he sells weapons to the US army and makes huge profits from it? He charges for his speeches because they take up literally all his free time.
And I don't think you realise what you said can, and has applied to millions of anti-capitalists. Friedrich Engels was incredibly rich.
@boriss4 I love the United States because only in the United States can fakes like Chomsky become Millionairs attacking capitalism and the country they live in, while being capitalists. Let him see how well he would do living in North Viet Nam (Chomsky praised North Viet Nan, North Korea and Cuba .. people are being starved to death in those regines and no one has rights), Cuba, Gaza, etc. He's such a fucking fake ... him and his unemployed brother living in a million dollar house.
@BushidoCode72 1) LOADS of anti-capitalists, past and present, have been/are rich. Why don't you go complain on all of Christopher Hitchens' videos?
2) Surely him earning money to support his unemployed brother (because you know, he's against wage labour and employment) is consistent with his beliefs?
3) Jews always lots of have money.
4)Chomsky never praised North Korea. And why would he? Totalitarianism is exactly the thing he complains about the US (draconian foreign policy, propaganda, etc).
It just goes to show that truly intelligent people don't need to interrupt or raise their voice to get their message across. The other point worth making is that Chomsky doesn't represent a point of view.He represents good hard Facts. I'm a western citizen who knows that other citizens In countries with natural resources(oil) live in hellish states at the hands of our world leaders.All in the pursuit of Power & Profit. We hide behind religion & cleverly manufactured causes. Who controls you?
@BAZ1L Chomsky can live anywhere he wants. WHy does he live in US? Why did he take 100,000 from Pentagon while working for MIT? Why does his brother live in multimillion dollar home? WHere does Chomsky donate money because he makes millions (upgrading his fee for speeches post 9/11)? He is a fake and a capitalist. But brainwashed morons don't see it.
People should actually look for other news channels other than Evan Solomon's "Power and Politics" for their information. Evan Solomon says ''he condemns the comments but he's still giving this fascist Tom Flanagan a platform to air his comments.
Before governments change people must change, winners become capitalist and loosers join protest leaders and become socialists, essentially it all revolves around opportunism
Here's to the dissolution of all states.! I love Chomsky's last point: The awakening can only continue, this inexorable march will lead us all to happiness.. Or, at least, a world without carpet bombing.
@wreckedpc : I totally agree. I used to curse at the TV for years because Evan Solomon pissed me off so much. He is so smug, and spends half of his interviews articulating long-winded questions that show off how smart he is, as opposed to making room for his guest to expand on their own thoughts.
You'd *think* that after getting corrected a couple of times by Chomsky that he would shut up a bit, but no. He just keeps on framing questions with his own beliefs and irritating Chomsky. And me.
It is very difficult to soundly argue against Chomky's intellect and bottomless historical knowledge. I'd love to seem brought on to every single mainstream media news giant, just to see him wipe the floor with those "experts" and "pundits."
Chomsky words are not his opinions. He merely offer a powerful place to stand. He is using the same measure for all sides and expects 'more' from the democratic rich world.
Peace as a possibility exists only when all sides are 'measured' using the same ruler.
@aminak48 He's not an idiot. An iodiot wouldn't be able to take on even an oposing point of view to Chomsky. He is just brainwashed by his own view...one which he has taken from people and an education biased for a very good reason. War profits. He just isn't capable of looking at things from both sides because of his bias. Yo can tell Chomsky has look at the issues from both sides because he knows his facts. ANYONE with a level head can detect the deceit and corruption if they reject the 'norm'
there should be a website dedicated to the sole purpose of showing videos where Chomsky destroys right wing pundits arguments.. it's actually funny to watch..
Further, if we listen deliberately, we realize Chomsky doesn't 'really' have a strong opinion on geo-political affairs insofar as he's demonstrating bullet proof 'questions' and institutional analysis of them. Many mistake Chomsky as a 'left' speaker or worse a point man for conspiratorial content. Nothing could be more off-point. He's demonstrating text book critical analysis and contextual thinking in the realm of global affairs and international power centers and effectively.
Exactly, and the labeling of critics of power and authority as conspiracy theorists is part of the institutional task to defame and deligitimate all who don't meet "doctrinal constraints." Voices out of the 'political spectrum' are called 'radical', and those in it 'moderate.' Also, concision in Western media, particularly the U.S press ensures little to no substantive dissident content enters public consciousness...It is quite easy to praise power in a sound-bite, than to challenge it.
Exactly, and the labeling of critics of power and authority as conspiracy theorists is part of the institutional task to defame and deligitimate all who don't meet "doctrinal constraints." Voices out of the 'political spectrum' are called 'radical', and those in it 'moderate.' Also, concision in Western media, particularly the U.S press ensures little to no substantive dissident content enters public consciousness...It is quite easy to praise power in a sound-bite, than to challenge it.
Not really. He's doing his job by being the Devil's Advocate. And look at the quality of response he got out of Chomsky. An interview is not a debate.
Maybe, but read the transcript of the actual interview. Most of the really damning stuff about the United States has been cut out of the interview. That may say nothing of the interviewer, but you can tell the bias of the network from that.
You're probably right, but I thought it was odd they cut off his answer about Arafat's counteroffer, or many supporting details to facts that many people have never heard before.
Wow at 7:23 "I don't forsee anything" Chomsky's tone and body language indicates that he is tired of explaining to a child what the child cannot comprehend.
@sheandicallitus Right on! Log! on part one 3:04 the "I'm outta my depth" look. A wannabe Shawn Hannity in the making. "Just stick to the script son!" Ha! The audacity to to entertain Professor Chomsky with obvious character questions.
sheandicallitus: So true. Chomsky is a 'master' communicator. Half the reason he is so highly regarded has less to do with his opinion and more about his uncanny ability to compress multi-facetted, complex pieces information into digestible and tangible pieces. His quick repeating of the interviewer's words shows how well he listens and how powerful that is.
As I mentioned in my comment below, the US SUPPORTED SADDAM when he used chemical weapons and knew he did...they didnt care. Rumsfeld, cheney, etc were his buddies in the 80's. And yes we established two fly zones until we saw the shia and kurds winning, so we REMOVED the fly zones and allowed him to massacre the shia you feel so bad for.What would I have done? I woulnd HAVE SUPPORTED him in the first place and i wouldnt have let him put down the shia rebellion in 91.unlike Bush and Schwarzkopf
He was reportedly about to flee the country during the shia uprising, when Schwarkzkopf suddenly gave him permission to fly his gunships, the us was more afraid of the shia than saddam. After allowing him to remain in power, we cause MASSIVE deaths (mostly among infants) in Iraq by the sanctions. Chomsky's whole argument is these people who ousted him supported his crimes and are no different than him, theyre equally complicit and have no justification to remove their former accomplice.
id agree that bush and schwarzkopf were almost as guilty as saddam, though no equally as guilty, but close.
you really think prior complicity means u have no justification to remove their former accomplice?
thats nonsense, look at the slave trade example.
that being the whole of ur argument is pretty bad and weak...and if u think saddam was a victim, thats equally false, as is the idea that the war started in 2003, not 1991.
sorry but ur just anti-american, regardless of the policy.
a noob? Ok let's please keep this conversation at an ADULT level. Second of all, from your posts, it seems you were unaware about US support for saddam. And no i'm not anti american, thats a ridiculous ad hominen attack and a logical fallacy of trying to win an argument by attacking the person making it. My point is that it is HYPOCRITICAL for thsoe who supported Saddam to oust him.
Um..no it's not two DIFFERENT people. George W. Bush is not George H.W. Bush. But Donald Rumsfeld IS Donald Rumsfeld. The same man who shook his hand weeks after he first used chemical weapons. RIchard Cheney is Richard Cheney, the same man who said "Saddamn's use of chem weapons against his own people shows he can be "our kind of guy" in the region. And the slave example is ridiculous. Lincoln freed the slaves for altruistic reasons, can you claim the same about rumsfled, cheney, etc? HARDLY.
And yes it's good Saddam was ousted, lets just agree on that opint, case closed.. and even more ironic it was done by the SAME people who supported him in the 80's (rumsfeld, cheney, etc), but w/e he's gone now. So now that he's gone lets try Rumsfeld and Cheney for war crimes when they KNOWLINGLY allowed him to use chemical weapons and gave him intelligence on iranian positions to use it. While we're at it, would you agree Rumsfeld should be prosecuted for approving torture?
And NO, you seem to not understand what im saying, I SUPPORT removing totalitarian dictatorships and if the US DID it alone i would support it. But I take exception to people who SUPPORTED mass murderers then take the high ground and try to oust them and then COMPLETELY mismanage the reconstruction, causing massive deaths and infrastructure recovery. THOSE People should be tried for being complicit in the war crimes. Let's appoint people to Iraq who dont have blood on their hands, unlike CHeney
Again please address this point for me, I have already stipulated I am glad Saddam is gone and I SUPPORT REMOVAL of any dictator or corrupt regime. However, do you think Cheney and Rumsfeld should be tried for their support of Saddam when he had and used chemical weaspons? After all they were high ranking govt officials who knowingly provied him with intellience, KNOWING he would use his chemical weapons and do you agree Rumsfeld should be prosecuted for signing approval of torture procedures??
im not fond of bush either, but im talking about policies...and the broad policy of overthrowing saddam is not what people like noam make it out to be.
i dont think noam would agree that the ousting of saddam was a good or just thing.
i guess we disagree...i think correcting our mistakes is a good thing.
Personally im glad saddam was ousted, but the point it was ILLEGAL, thats the whole point at issue, here...nothing else. Not nly was a declaration of war not done with congress, but the UN did NOT support it. Is the world better he's gone absolutely? But was it because he was a tyrant who hurt his people? NO. It was because his one time backers wanted to oust him and control his oil fields (no bid contracts ring a bell?). This wasn't done for pure or idealistic reasons, lets not kid ourselves.
Finally, it reminds me of Cicero when he was about to be executed, he said "what you are doing is not proper, but make sure you do it properly." If we're going to oust saddam, fine, world's better place, but DO IT RIGHT. Don't appoint imcompetent administrators like Rumsfeld and Cheney who COMPLETELY screwed up and caused even more deaths than during the sanctions. Think about all we have done to this poor country that has NEVER ATTACKED US. My heart goes out to them.
yes exactly, if we had USED 400,000 troops as suggested by Powell and the army, I wouldve supported it because we wouldve established security and prevented al-qaeda from inflitrating the country. If they had appleid a marshall plan scenario to Iraq, I wouldve been all for it, in fact condoleeza had a great strategy that was ignored by Rumsfeld. It's not too late now, in fact i advocate putting in more troops now to rebuild the country even further since they now have a working democracy.
You want the war to be sustained? What the fuck, why? The Afghans predominately want a withdrawal with a focus on diplomacy, ie: negotiations with the Taliban.
Stupid Americans imposing their values on another society without taking the peoples' views and beliefs into consideration -_-
under saddam, he BURNED oilfields, didnt invest enough in his oil infrastructure, and stole the profits from his people. oil for food? im sure u know about that, saddam took profits to build palaces.
now, with new investment, the oil in iraq is finally beginning to flow again, and the iraqi oil ministry decides who can drill, and how to distribute the revenue.
the oil industry is much better now than it was 10 years ago, i promise.
You're not understanding what he was saying. He wasn't saying that because they invaded Vietnam, they shouldn't invade Iraq, he was saying REGARDLESS, they do not have a right to invade other countries. And he is right. No country has a right to pre-emptive attack. In the case of Afghanistan, I supported it because they attacked us first and we responded, but what about Iraq? Iraq never attacked us nor did they have the WMD's that was propogated around. We basi
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scarface82us 3 weeks ago
I love his end quote on the state, his view is perfectly summed here.
JagjeetMann 1 month ago
Hey thanks a ton for posting this!!! showed it to many of my friends, now they know a little more about the world. :) Thanks!
89cz3ko 1 month ago
133,000 plus viewings. Youtube fat guy playing with star wars sword and it's 20 million plus. the masses will never listen. when Noam dies his words wont though
seanjoseph84 1 month ago
6:32 nothing's changed. Obama bombs Libya, Yemen, Pakistan, Somalia with no discussion or debate and very little resistance.
BubbaGump332 2 months ago
the interviewer didnt know how to talk to a genius
bubafoo 4 months ago 2
In the beginning was Chomsky and then there was Wikileaks
homer30 4 months ago
Chomsky is a torchbearer of clear thinking.
MemoryPines 5 months ago 3
Chomsky is a paragon of humanity.
195ashes 5 months ago 4
chomsky supports the United Nations yet talks about the importance of sovereignty...not sure if he knows but the veto powers are the powers he always criticizes...ironic
gibson9821 5 months ago
@gibson9821 an institution can be supported and criticized for its faults... a lot of people just want to disband it... that is what he does not support... he wants us to join it and abide by internat'l rules
mcshobe2008 5 months ago
Pay attention Evan, you can learn a lot for this guy.
Canada1953 6 months ago
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acousticgrooven 6 months ago
Chomsky vs Bill O'reilly. I want to see Bill get his arse kicked. Intellectually of course.
195ashes 6 months ago
There needed to be a referee to stop this after the first round. Chomsky nearly killed the guy.
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you gentiles are Pathetic Always take some jew and make him god or Messiah just like the jesus and kerl marx and know this noam chomsky did you ever wondering why is this all your biggst gods and messiah and your intellectuals from right and left are jewish and you wonder how we the jews call are self the chosen people dont diss this
comment in 100 yreas from know your kids will things that holly histroy just like your Fathers Though't demn even the arebs belive in a jewish idea of god
ehudnold9 6 months ago
@ 4:30 Bernard Lewis Explained?
Raysyedrocks 7 months ago
@3:53
Chomsky doesn't even give him a chance to respond because by this stage in the interview, he already realizes that Solomon doesn't know squat.
Dudeinator6599 7 months ago
Ha I love how at the end Chomsky shakes the guy's hand smiles and looks at the camera like "I win"
lenglain 7 months ago
Way out of your league Evan stick to hassling 21 year old girls it's your only hope!!!
kevindlinc 8 months ago
solomon deserved that slap on the face.
N10100 8 months ago
lies lies and more lies! chomsky isnt stupid, he's just dishonest
Freethinker12341 9 months ago
@Freethinker12341 I didn't hear a single falsehood in there. What was wrong?
MrDarkbloom 9 months ago
@MrDarkbloom i duno, he tries to make the US look just as bad as the muslim terrorists. if noam chomsky got captured by a bunch of terrorists who were yelling out "kill the jew! kill the american for Allh! Allah will protect us!" then maybe he would have a different opinion on this whole thing. with nuclear weapons present in the world, there is no way we will survive with competing religions. he pretty much believes "the problem is western society, not the islamic threat to it"
Freethinker12341 9 months ago
@Freethinker12341 No, Western government's policies. Not 'society'. Which is fair. Jihadists groups have no way of affecting the world a government can. It's not like you can say 'they've killed more civilians than we have'. "he tries to make the US look just as bad as the muslim terrorists." Same tactics, worse effects though. They don't have the weaponry states have. So they're not even compatible. Henceforth he didn't try to, contrary to your claim.
Redcarpet01 9 months ago
@Redcarpet01 i dont understand wwhat ur even saying.. lol
Freethinker12341 8 months ago
@Freethinker12341 Way to oversimplify.
Daaaaf 8 months ago
@MrDarkbloom the problem is religion. remember, islamic fundamentalism comes from the fundamentals of islam. regardless of whether or not there was a state of israel, the muslim culture would still be a barbaric warzone, sunni muslims killing shia muslims everyday over ancient relics and scripture differences. they will always oppress their women and make them wear burkas and veils, and indoctrinate their children with their dangerous ideas and teach them to hate infidels, arming them with AK47s
Freethinker12341 9 months ago
@Freethinker12341 [PART 1] I am a 26-year-old American Christian male who has lived in Egypt for 2 years (& still does), & I have read the entire Qur'an 3 times. (1) Islamic "fundamentalism" is a misnomer, which virtually any Muslim who is NOT a terrorist (99.9% of the billions of Muslims on Earth) will tell you (if you ever bothered to ask one). (2) Barbaric warzone? Sunnis killing Shia? Where are you referring to, Iraq? A country that is a *literal* warzone? [...]
JFranks1019 8 months ago
@Freethinker12341 [PART 2] Even in a post-REVOLUTION Cairo, an incredibly dense city with an estimated population of more than 25 million people that is currently devoid of ANY police force (other than traffic police), I feel infinitely safer than I ever did when living in Baltimore, D.C., or Phoenix. Why? Because whenever ANY slight argument begins, the entire community intervenes to ensure the conflict is resolved. I have never seen this happen anywhere else I've ever been in the world [...]
JFranks1019 8 months ago
@Freethinker12341 [PART 3] I would make the case that--Egypt, at least--is one of the most civilized places in the world, if you base the word "civilized" on the general population demonstrating a genuine concern for complete strangers, and each individual regularly striving to maintain as peaceful of a society as possible. (3) Sunni and Shia Muslims kill each other over scripture differences? Interesting, seeing as how their beliefs are based upon the EXACT SAME scripture, the Qur'an. [...]
JFranks1019 8 months ago
@Freethinker12341 [PART 4] I suggest you strive to understand Islam b4 openly judging it wrongfully (like I did). (4) As someone who has personally dated more than 20 women who wear veils & one who wears a burka, I can tell you that ALL of them do so by personal choice as an expression of their own commitment to their religion. There are many women here who do NOT wear a burka or veil--also by personal choice--& are not oppressed by any men into wearing one. Not every Arab country = Saudi Arabia
JFranks1019 8 months ago
@JFranks1019 why did u write 5 comments. do u really expect me to read all of that? another dishonest, dumb christian american...
Freethinker12341 8 months ago
@Freethinker12341 Yes, I assumed a "freethinker" was capable of reading 5 brief paragraphs... or even responding with a rational argument. I've noticed that whenever someone is in a debate and he has nothing of substance to back his own baseless claims, he instead tries to simply destroy the credibility of the more rational person. That's why I like Chomsky, because whenever he encounters people like you, he calmly responds with even more facts to support his already strong arguments.
JFranks1019 8 months ago
@JFranks1019 nothing of substance to back his own baseless claim.... kind of like what you're doing ? lol... just saying
Freethinker12341 8 months ago
@Freethinker12341 [PART 5] Not every Arab country = Saudi Arabia. (5) Amazing that you think AK47s are so plentiful in Muslim societies. The gun laws in Egypt are incredibly strict... people here are genuinely shocked when I tell them about America's "right to bear arms" and how comparitively simple it is for virtually any normal adult American citizen to own (multiple) loaded firearms. I can't help but wonder if they thought that my American Christian culture sounded like a "barbaric warzone."
JFranks1019 8 months ago
"for see in the vision" lololol
zzzzJAGJEETzzzz 9 months ago
This guy is an idiot. He talks about how we dont support spreading democracy throughout the middle east... ok last time I checked Afghanistan, and Iraq have both held democratic elections since we invaded.
buckeyes173 9 months ago
@buckeyes173 no they were US mandated
zzzzJAGJEETzzzz 9 months ago
@buckeyes173 the Iraqi president was not elected he lost the election and did you forgot mubarak who he won all the elections by 99% , did you forget the Iranian Sha and don't forgot that the US have killed in both countries 1000 of civilians open your eyes. US gov is EVIL not the people only the gov.search for us allies.
NoorMyeye 9 months ago
@buckeyes173
That's incorrect. USA has invaded Iraq and Afghanistan for the interest of american elite (e.g. oil reserves, geostrategic position and so forth ...). Statements made by US politicians that it was done in favor of spreading democray and liberating repressed nations are grotesque lies, a farse. If you conduct a little retrospecitve, you'll see that USA supported Sadam Husein in the 80's, financed and trained the islamic extremists in Afghanistan i.e. Talibans, Bin-Laden etc.
fission1991 9 months ago
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descendantdan 10 months ago
@descendantdan there is a long version on youtube, this is the short version
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Canadians are such 2 dimentional fucktards
79hyperwave 11 months ago
@79hyperwave Nice genetic fallacy ya got goin' there bud.
BCsJonathanTM 11 months ago
@BCsJonathanTM ya, they're inbred, eh?
79hyperwave 10 months ago
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BCsJonathanTM 10 months ago
@BCsJonathanTM North Korea.
79hyperwave 10 months ago
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BCsJonathanTM 10 months ago
@BCsJonathanTM North Korea is best Korea.
79hyperwave 10 months ago
lakeeriejew 11 months ago
@lakeeriejew since I'm a Chomsky fan I'd like to see some evidence
shanyin1234 11 months ago
Noam Chompsy is the man with the most beautiful soul walking this earth. The day he is gone will be one of the saddest days in his admirers and loyal followers life time. This man is a real hero
maurgi17 1 year ago 15
@maurgi17 a hero of cock maybe
gibson9821 5 months ago
he says its in us countries to support totalitarian arab governments to get their oil...every heard of OPEC and the 1970's oil shocks you fucking retard
gibson9821 5 months ago
@maurgi17
Amen to that
SwiftyMcVeigh100 2 months ago
Back to school boy ! You have been Chomskynised !
TinyArts 1 year ago
@BushidoCode72 Do you actually have any counter-argument to anything Chomsky has said and or written about? So he makes money? If you don't make money you don't eat. I'm a raging Anti-Capitalist I work a wage job does that mean I can't criticize Capitalism? I opt into the system for the same reason as everyone else, if I don't, I don't eat and I won't have a fucking roof over my head.
You go all ad hoc in your arguments because you can't refute the facts.
sonofipecac 1 year ago
Yesssss,oil oil oil,rape,pillage,greed,terrorize,the propaganda machine is well maintained for people in the west to believe we actually have a right to be there.Thank you Mr.Chomsky at least if I am crazy I am in good company.Indeed ES is a schmuck,now Rex Murphy would have been alot more fun ;-)
sunflowerofpeace 1 year ago
fucking filthy zionist appologist
ILIKESFLAN 1 year ago
Post 9/11 Chomsky began charging much more for his speeches. He charges anywhere between 15,000 and 50,000 for his speeches, That's capitalism. Charging credit cards per minute of his web sites to listen to him, is capitalism. Attacking The Pentagon as an "evil institution" while making 100,000s from the Pentagon while at MIT, is just wrong. This man is fake. And his facts on Middle East are just wrong.
BushidoCode72 1 year ago
@BushidoCode72 His facts are wrong? What did he get wrong?
MrDarkbloom 1 year ago
@BushidoCode72 Are you copy and pasting these comments on any and all Chomsky clips? It's apparent you don't understand capitalism. It's apparent you're only vaguely familiar with Chomsky and his worldview. Your comments are poorly constructed and frankly embarrassing. Pick up a book and read son.
xjtbarnesx 1 year ago
Damn he is so awesome.
boriss4 1 year ago
Well If as you say he is a fake he makes incredibly valid intelligent points that I don't see any real people making. Whatever theories you have on his profit making from these lectures I don't think it matters to me.He's making points that I believe to be true and nobody else is standing up and making them. America supports Israel for Jewish votes and It's pretty sick how a nation once tortured by Nazi's can be so nasty to other human beings ie Palestinians.
BAZ1L 1 year ago
Chomsky is a first rate capitalist and even worse, a War Profiteer. He isn't poor. He took hundreds of thousands from the Pentagon while working for MIT. His unemployed brother lives in multimillion dollar home, and Chomsky charges by the minute for his speeches (post 9/11 he charges more .. of course). THe man is a filthy rich capitalis, and a fraud. He lives in US because he makes MILLIONS. You guys who follow him are brainwashed IDIOTS
BushidoCode72 1 year ago
@BushidoCode72 A war profiteer? Am I missing the apparent obvious fact he sells weapons to the US army and makes huge profits from it? He charges for his speeches because they take up literally all his free time.
And I don't think you realise what you said can, and has applied to millions of anti-capitalists. Friedrich Engels was incredibly rich.
boriss4 1 year ago
@boriss4 I love the United States because only in the United States can fakes like Chomsky become Millionairs attacking capitalism and the country they live in, while being capitalists. Let him see how well he would do living in North Viet Nam (Chomsky praised North Viet Nan, North Korea and Cuba .. people are being starved to death in those regines and no one has rights), Cuba, Gaza, etc. He's such a fucking fake ... him and his unemployed brother living in a million dollar house.
BushidoCode72 1 year ago
@BushidoCode72 1) LOADS of anti-capitalists, past and present, have been/are rich. Why don't you go complain on all of Christopher Hitchens' videos?
2) Surely him earning money to support his unemployed brother (because you know, he's against wage labour and employment) is consistent with his beliefs?
3) Jews always lots of have money.
4)Chomsky never praised North Korea. And why would he? Totalitarianism is exactly the thing he complains about the US (draconian foreign policy, propaganda, etc).
boriss4 1 year ago
Chomsky makes Solomon look retarded in this interview. But then again, Chomsky could make just about anybody look retarded.
Celinancc1701 1 year ago
It just goes to show that truly intelligent people don't need to interrupt or raise their voice to get their message across. The other point worth making is that Chomsky doesn't represent a point of view.He represents good hard Facts. I'm a western citizen who knows that other citizens In countries with natural resources(oil) live in hellish states at the hands of our world leaders.All in the pursuit of Power & Profit. We hide behind religion & cleverly manufactured causes. Who controls you?
BAZ1L 1 year ago
@BAZ1L Chomsky can live anywhere he wants. WHy does he live in US? Why did he take 100,000 from Pentagon while working for MIT? Why does his brother live in multimillion dollar home? WHere does Chomsky donate money because he makes millions (upgrading his fee for speeches post 9/11)? He is a fake and a capitalist. But brainwashed morons don't see it.
BushidoCode72 1 year ago
damn 911 likes..thats mad creepy..:D
DarkLord1180 1 year ago
Am I the only person awe-struck by the level of this mans intelligence?
Kobaganda 1 year ago
Chomsky. Never been wrong.
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wovokanarchy 1 year ago
fuck israel, give it back to the muslims for world peace
warLock21X 1 year ago
@warLock21X
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baaadmofo 1 year ago
You can see how pissed off Chosmky is at the interviewer at the end.
Chomsky absolutely smashed the shit out of him.
hugoegbert79 1 year ago 2
Before governments change people must change, winners become capitalist and loosers join protest leaders and become socialists, essentially it all revolves around opportunism
August1977 1 year ago
Get him Chomsky!!!!!!
JayDiggs12 1 year ago
@JayDiggs12 You've gotta admit though, if the interviewer wasn't such a lapdog, Chomsky wouldn't have so much material to chew through.
du4l1ty 1 year ago
Here's to the dissolution of all states.! I love Chomsky's last point: The awakening can only continue, this inexorable march will lead us all to happiness.. Or, at least, a world without carpet bombing.
5147848amp 1 year ago
Mr PWNsky knows how to deal with media puppys :)
TinyArts 1 year ago 2
It's the best interview I've ever seen.
BrideAndGroomFilmsHD 1 year ago
He is really articulate , I wish i could do that too :)
joyd 1 year ago
If i was chomksy i would be the most frustrated person on earth especially dealing with numpties like this interviewer.
Nestapoke 1 year ago
Epic...
unclesamfatg 1 year ago
Did the host understand the answers? Sadly enough he never tried to argue Chomsky's points. It could have been even nicer.
Don't blame the Dutch for Wilders. Not all of us agree with his 'freedom party'.
jcnumber14 1 year ago
To be honest, I'm not sure i understand Mr. Chomsky 100%. But God I respect him.
JesNazRexJud 1 year ago
If we were remotely as civilized as we think we are, Chomsky would be the unrivaled leader of the universe.
annyms21 1 year ago
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sunnyxlove1990 1 year ago
i dont foresee anything.
1stGenRefugee 1 year ago
where's the GODDAMN chomsky hitchens debate!!
if there is one why isn't there one on youtube!!
quickly now while chomsky's still alive!!
or hitchens for that matter since he smokes/drinks like a f@#ker
natmanprime 1 year ago
I have searched the world wide web and no one has inspired me more than Noam Chomsky ! He is just epic !
Theladiesman04 1 year ago
Chomsky was little pissed with this tool from CBC. I don't usually see that. The interviewer was a massive tool.
wreckedpc 1 year ago 5
@wreckedpc : I totally agree. I used to curse at the TV for years because Evan Solomon pissed me off so much. He is so smug, and spends half of his interviews articulating long-winded questions that show off how smart he is, as opposed to making room for his guest to expand on their own thoughts.
You'd *think* that after getting corrected a couple of times by Chomsky that he would shut up a bit, but no. He just keeps on framing questions with his own beliefs and irritating Chomsky. And me.
throwabrick 1 year ago
@throwabrick
I believe it's called playing Devil's Advocate.
fagbert 1 year ago
It is very difficult to soundly argue against Chomky's intellect and bottomless historical knowledge. I'd love to seem brought on to every single mainstream media news giant, just to see him wipe the floor with those "experts" and "pundits."
aGothicStory 1 year ago 11
Brilliant. simple, clear and to the point.
Chomsky words are not his opinions. He merely offer a powerful place to stand. He is using the same measure for all sides and expects 'more' from the democratic rich world.
Peace as a possibility exists only when all sides are 'measured' using the same ruler.
thank you Noam for being Noam.
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EmpireofMInd 1 year ago
the interviewer is an idiot
aminak48 1 year ago 16
@aminak48 everyone who interviews chomsky looks like an idiot.
CadillacDB23 9 months ago
@aminak48 ya i know, chomsky is incredibly patient with evan
Freethinker12341 8 months ago 8
@aminak48 He's not an idiot. An iodiot wouldn't be able to take on even an oposing point of view to Chomsky. He is just brainwashed by his own view...one which he has taken from people and an education biased for a very good reason. War profits. He just isn't capable of looking at things from both sides because of his bias. Yo can tell Chomsky has look at the issues from both sides because he knows his facts. ANYONE with a level head can detect the deceit and corruption if they reject the 'norm'
jdavize 7 months ago
I hate this host. Didn't he interview Dawkins once?
Yupiyeahs 1 year ago
Chomsky is the fucking man, greatest intellectual of our time!
Sensarmy300 1 year ago 11
Noam Chomsky you are my hero!! dam I'm so going to buy all your books
guilaneni 2 years ago 3
there should be a website dedicated to the sole purpose of showing videos where Chomsky destroys right wing pundits arguments.. it's actually funny to watch..
Arlosrep 2 years ago 6
Some great verbal slap downs of a quaterback hack.
emann1066 2 years ago
Noem chompsky deserves more respect than your pitiful putdown of the interviewer
doctorkozma 2 years ago
Further, if we listen deliberately, we realize Chomsky doesn't 'really' have a strong opinion on geo-political affairs insofar as he's demonstrating bullet proof 'questions' and institutional analysis of them. Many mistake Chomsky as a 'left' speaker or worse a point man for conspiratorial content. Nothing could be more off-point. He's demonstrating text book critical analysis and contextual thinking in the realm of global affairs and international power centers and effectively.
artemis7114 2 years ago 62
Facts have an inherent liberal bias.
D0g63rt 2 years ago 5
Chomsky isn't a liberal.
Air420 2 years ago
Exactly, and the labeling of critics of power and authority as conspiracy theorists is part of the institutional task to defame and deligitimate all who don't meet "doctrinal constraints." Voices out of the 'political spectrum' are called 'radical', and those in it 'moderate.' Also, concision in Western media, particularly the U.S press ensures little to no substantive dissident content enters public consciousness...It is quite easy to praise power in a sound-bite, than to challenge it.
wnxsilence 1 year ago
Exactly, and the labeling of critics of power and authority as conspiracy theorists is part of the institutional task to defame and deligitimate all who don't meet "doctrinal constraints." Voices out of the 'political spectrum' are called 'radical', and those in it 'moderate.' Also, concision in Western media, particularly the U.S press ensures little to no substantive dissident content enters public consciousness...It is quite easy to praise power in a sound-bite, than to challenge it.
wnxsilence 1 year ago 2
@artemis7114 but he is a leftist! cant deny dat
timetochilli 1 year ago
@timetochilli haha you don't need to deny it because it's a completely meaningless term.
CheStillFighting 1 year ago
@artemis7114 oh, you mean intelligent assessment? yeah, that is something not common in today's world leaders.
LowCostVideo 1 year ago
@artemis7114 you sir, are a Chomsky in training!
shabutie1337 1 year ago
@artemis7114 no hes not hes pointing out how obvious some things are that its a texts book illustration
timetochilli 1 year ago
@artemis7114 shove your pathetic comments up your dirty ass!
renatoavatarian 1 year ago
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cuntarama69 10 months ago
@artemis7114 how does it feel to conclude in an incomplete sentence?
cuntarama69 10 months ago
transcript link broken
roanakaghostdog 2 years ago
Mr Noam Chomsky he is my new hero,this is the kind of person the white house needs. i dont understand how people can't see what he is saying.
xoxoKaiyaxoxo 2 years ago 8
This little dork, dumb ass boy acts as if he is smarter or as intelligent as Mr Noam Chomsky. Oh God please help him get it.
nazzj0n 2 years ago 5
Not really. He's doing his job by being the Devil's Advocate. And look at the quality of response he got out of Chomsky. An interview is not a debate.
fagbert 2 years ago 4
@fagbert
Maybe, but read the transcript of the actual interview. Most of the really damning stuff about the United States has been cut out of the interview. That may say nothing of the interviewer, but you can tell the bias of the network from that.
amartin7889 1 year ago
They have to cut stuff for time, unfortunately. The essence of Chomsky's message got throught, and what was discussed was damning enough.
fagbert 1 year ago
@fagbert
You're probably right, but I thought it was odd they cut off his answer about Arafat's counteroffer, or many supporting details to facts that many people have never heard before.
amartin7889 1 year ago
@amartin7889
where can i find the transcript?
rencrow 1 year ago
he does get it. that is why this interview gets so many hits.
doctorkozma 2 years ago
Wow at 7:23 "I don't forsee anything" Chomsky's tone and body language indicates that he is tired of explaining to a child what the child cannot comprehend.
sheandicallitus 2 years ago 40
Allow me to rectify, doesn't WANT to comprehend.
bewaver 2 years ago 2
@sheandicallitus Right on! Log! on part one 3:04 the "I'm outta my depth" look. A wannabe Shawn Hannity in the making. "Just stick to the script son!" Ha! The audacity to to entertain Professor Chomsky with obvious character questions.
MAY1EXPRES 2 years ago
sheandicallitus: So true. Chomsky is a 'master' communicator. Half the reason he is so highly regarded has less to do with his opinion and more about his uncanny ability to compress multi-facetted, complex pieces information into digestible and tangible pieces. His quick repeating of the interviewer's words shows how well he listens and how powerful that is.
artemis7114 2 years ago 4
lol chomsky=power
pAbedaNSK 2 years ago
"i dont forsee anything" -noam chomsky
mcpimpen 2 years ago 2
"That you foresee in the vision" hahahahah
nygiants92215 2 years ago 2
i feel sorry for chomsky having to try and reason and use logic with this incompetent muppet.
NicholasGP 2 years ago 8
logics and mere FACTS
bewaver 2 years ago
after 1991, saddam killed even more of his own people, who were trying to overthrow him, including 50,000 shi'a.
we set up two no-fly zones over his country to protect the underprivileged groups. guess what? this was a war measure.
and saddam shot at american planes who protected the iraqis throughout the 1990s. this, im afraid to say, was war, and it always has been since 1991.
the sanctions were a disaster and needed lifting.
but to keep him in power was irresponsible.
what would u have done?
IcyIconoclast 2 years ago
As I mentioned in my comment below, the US SUPPORTED SADDAM when he used chemical weapons and knew he did...they didnt care. Rumsfeld, cheney, etc were his buddies in the 80's. And yes we established two fly zones until we saw the shia and kurds winning, so we REMOVED the fly zones and allowed him to massacre the shia you feel so bad for.What would I have done? I woulnd HAVE SUPPORTED him in the first place and i wouldnt have let him put down the shia rebellion in 91.unlike Bush and Schwarzkopf
bigbossman999 2 years ago
again, saying we supported him before is a non sequitor.
how does that contribute to the current argument? yes bush and schwarzkopf are guilty.
but dont our past mistakes obligate us to correct them?
for example, the UK and US were very active in the slave trade.
finally, the US and UK abolished it, and the UK lost 5000 men in doing so on the seas.
would u argue that the UKs complicity in the slave trade before meant it couldn abolish it in the future?
on the contrary, it mandates we correct it
IcyIconoclast 2 years ago
He was reportedly about to flee the country during the shia uprising, when Schwarkzkopf suddenly gave him permission to fly his gunships, the us was more afraid of the shia than saddam. After allowing him to remain in power, we cause MASSIVE deaths (mostly among infants) in Iraq by the sanctions. Chomsky's whole argument is these people who ousted him supported his crimes and are no different than him, theyre equally complicit and have no justification to remove their former accomplice.
bigbossman999 2 years ago
id agree that bush and schwarzkopf were almost as guilty as saddam, though no equally as guilty, but close.
you really think prior complicity means u have no justification to remove their former accomplice?
thats nonsense, look at the slave trade example.
that being the whole of ur argument is pretty bad and weak...and if u think saddam was a victim, thats equally false, as is the idea that the war started in 2003, not 1991.
sorry but ur just anti-american, regardless of the policy.
IcyIconoclast 2 years ago
a noob? Ok let's please keep this conversation at an ADULT level. Second of all, from your posts, it seems you were unaware about US support for saddam. And no i'm not anti american, thats a ridiculous ad hominen attack and a logical fallacy of trying to win an argument by attacking the person making it. My point is that it is HYPOCRITICAL for thsoe who supported Saddam to oust him.
bigbossman999 2 years ago
u are very very general.
it isnt hypocritical at all. bush 1 and bush 2 are not the same people. sorry. they have different policies.
thats like saying the US is wrong to be friends with japan because we dropped nukes on them. two different administrations, two different times.
please address my slave trade example.
and i know plenty about this, thanks, i know we gave him weapons. that doesnt affect my argument at all though.
our prior support makes our correction necessary.
IcyIconoclast 2 years ago
Um..no it's not two DIFFERENT people. George W. Bush is not George H.W. Bush. But Donald Rumsfeld IS Donald Rumsfeld. The same man who shook his hand weeks after he first used chemical weapons. RIchard Cheney is Richard Cheney, the same man who said "Saddamn's use of chem weapons against his own people shows he can be "our kind of guy" in the region. And the slave example is ridiculous. Lincoln freed the slaves for altruistic reasons, can you claim the same about rumsfled, cheney, etc? HARDLY.
bigbossman999 2 years ago
And yes it's good Saddam was ousted, lets just agree on that opint, case closed.. and even more ironic it was done by the SAME people who supported him in the 80's (rumsfeld, cheney, etc), but w/e he's gone now. So now that he's gone lets try Rumsfeld and Cheney for war crimes when they KNOWLINGLY allowed him to use chemical weapons and gave him intelligence on iranian positions to use it. While we're at it, would you agree Rumsfeld should be prosecuted for approving torture?
bigbossman999 2 years ago
And NO, you seem to not understand what im saying, I SUPPORT removing totalitarian dictatorships and if the US DID it alone i would support it. But I take exception to people who SUPPORTED mass murderers then take the high ground and try to oust them and then COMPLETELY mismanage the reconstruction, causing massive deaths and infrastructure recovery. THOSE People should be tried for being complicit in the war crimes. Let's appoint people to Iraq who dont have blood on their hands, unlike CHeney
bigbossman999 2 years ago
Again please address this point for me, I have already stipulated I am glad Saddam is gone and I SUPPORT REMOVAL of any dictator or corrupt regime. However, do you think Cheney and Rumsfeld should be tried for their support of Saddam when he had and used chemical weaspons? After all they were high ranking govt officials who knowingly provied him with intellience, KNOWING he would use his chemical weapons and do you agree Rumsfeld should be prosecuted for signing approval of torture procedures??
bigbossman999 2 years ago
yes i am for that...
i hate cheney and rumsfeld and saddam.
im not fond of bush either, but im talking about policies...and the broad policy of overthrowing saddam is not what people like noam make it out to be.
i dont think noam would agree that the ousting of saddam was a good or just thing.
i guess we disagree...i think correcting our mistakes is a good thing.
IcyIconoclast 2 years ago
Personally im glad saddam was ousted, but the point it was ILLEGAL, thats the whole point at issue, here...nothing else. Not nly was a declaration of war not done with congress, but the UN did NOT support it. Is the world better he's gone absolutely? But was it because he was a tyrant who hurt his people? NO. It was because his one time backers wanted to oust him and control his oil fields (no bid contracts ring a bell?). This wasn't done for pure or idealistic reasons, lets not kid ourselves.
bigbossman999 2 years ago
Finally, it reminds me of Cicero when he was about to be executed, he said "what you are doing is not proper, but make sure you do it properly." If we're going to oust saddam, fine, world's better place, but DO IT RIGHT. Don't appoint imcompetent administrators like Rumsfeld and Cheney who COMPLETELY screwed up and caused even more deaths than during the sanctions. Think about all we have done to this poor country that has NEVER ATTACKED US. My heart goes out to them.
bigbossman999 2 years ago
i agree, rumsfeld and cheney were incompetent.
they sucked at this thing..but we werent talking about the execution.
my heart goes out to iraqis too, who had to endure 35 years of terror and fascism and i hope they get the freedom they deserve.
again, iraq did attack us as we enacted the nofly zones.
saddam also sponsored terrorists like abu nidal who killed americans.
leon klinghoffer and john buonocore III to name 2.
i wish we had used the proper size for the army
IcyIconoclast 2 years ago
yes exactly, if we had USED 400,000 troops as suggested by Powell and the army, I wouldve supported it because we wouldve established security and prevented al-qaeda from inflitrating the country. If they had appleid a marshall plan scenario to Iraq, I wouldve been all for it, in fact condoleeza had a great strategy that was ignored by Rumsfeld. It's not too late now, in fact i advocate putting in more troops now to rebuild the country even further since they now have a working democracy.
bigbossman999 2 years ago
good im glad we agree there.
the point is, using noams logic, this was all wrong.
that is why i dont like chomsky.
he sees any continuation of this war as even more criminal.
noam is good on a lot, not here..not on iraq and afghanistan.
he complains afghanistan is illegitimate because we never declared overthrowing the taliban a war aim...
even if we had, i doubt he would have cared.
all is imperialism to him.
i dont have time for noam on foreign policy.
IcyIconoclast 2 years ago
You want the war to be sustained? What the fuck, why? The Afghans predominately want a withdrawal with a focus on diplomacy, ie: negotiations with the Taliban.
Stupid Americans imposing their values on another society without taking the peoples' views and beliefs into consideration -_-
mdoob11 2 years ago
you support US imperialism in the Middle East? Shame. securing oil is the obvious interest, at the expense of local populations.
mdoob11 2 years ago 2
Yeah, we also, uhh... got the Baath party in power by ousting General Qassem [sp?] because he was communist.
EvanWells1 2 years ago
im sorry, but oil is hardly a point for you.
under saddam, he BURNED oilfields, didnt invest enough in his oil infrastructure, and stole the profits from his people. oil for food? im sure u know about that, saddam took profits to build palaces.
now, with new investment, the oil in iraq is finally beginning to flow again, and the iraqi oil ministry decides who can drill, and how to distribute the revenue.
the oil industry is much better now than it was 10 years ago, i promise.
IcyIconoclast 2 years ago
i agree with noam on many things, except iraq and afghanistan.
he totally escapes the question. he says, because america committed vietnam, then its hypocritical to overthrow the taliban?
people, this is a total non sequitor that anyone should be able to see.
who thinks the vietnam war means we cant overthrow tyrrany?
arent we then hamstrung for eternity?
im the first to cry about US foreign policy in latin america, vietnam, israel..
but this is TOPPLING tyranny, not supporting it.
make sense?
IcyIconoclast 2 years ago
You're not understanding what he was saying. He wasn't saying that because they invaded Vietnam, they shouldn't invade Iraq, he was saying REGARDLESS, they do not have a right to invade other countries. And he is right. No country has a right to pre-emptive attack. In the case of Afghanistan, I supported it because they attacked us first and we responded, but what about Iraq? Iraq never attacked us nor did they have the WMD's that was propogated around. We basi