amazing, really amazing. They are cheap as hell right now and they manage to do everything what I need. I run xubuntu with compiz on my desktop as primary system and seeing that I can do the same combo on an old eee is just amazing.
Linux is never going to satisfy the mass market while it requires users to fiddle around installing their own drivers for basic equipment. It's like getting a car knowing included equipment will need manual wiring.. some users will be up for it, but most will not have the confidence
And it's a bit surprising in this case.. how do we come to have a specific distribution for a particular PC, where standard equipment doens't work? And with problems already solved by enthusiasts but not incoporated
I wouldn't go as far as to say "never," just not any time soon. Linux is still relatively young, mind you. Also, the increasing popularity of Ubuntu is sure to capture the eyes of many (as it already has), soon enough. Ubuntu laptops are being sold now, as are Linux pre-installed systems, embedded devices like the G1 phone from Google/T-Mobile, etc. Not to mention manufacturers are now making their hardware more Linux-friendly by making sure they're compatible. Yup, just a matter or time.
most people think it's like sooo hard to install software inside linux but they dont realize that while they are browsing the net looking for software they have to pay for and download all we on linux machines have to do is open up the package manager type in what we are lookin for and install it or if u know exactly what ur lookin for just open a term and type sudo apt-get install "whatever" and bam it downloads it and installs it. very simple
i had ubuntu 8.10 on a computer. it was good, but ran a little slow on the old pc. but after 10 minutes, the ubuntu was working with my internet pci card! all i had to do was install ndiswrapper. it was that easy. and, it comes preloaded with firefox and openoffice, two programs that most people only use.
you realize all major changes in windows requried the same fiddleing read all the complaints about windows 1, 2, 95, ME, and vista, all of them require a lot of fiddling to be effective. the Fiddleing part is temporary so long as driver and software makers supply lack luster support, never say never.
Hi KusuriRX... they need "fiddling-around" if you install the OS for yourself. That's a big challenge for Linux - Microsoft has as good as ensured that manufacturers sell PCs with Windows installed.
Issue 1> Users have already paid for and got Windows
Issue 2> Very few PCs have all the "fiddling" sorted by the manufacturers.
But in the case of eeeBuntu, it's beyond my understanding why nobody has found it necessary to get all the components working, and then fed back the fixes into the OS.
My main question is: does all Eee PC hardware still function well when installing regular XUbuntu? Asking because I'm going to be doing this very soon.
Yep, not everything works out of the box but with some tweaks you can get everything working. There's very active forums for finding out the details, google is your friend
For the webcam you will have to install some standard webcam drivers, and for OpenOffice and Firefox, just install them, what else can I say?
Learn to use your packet manager. Linux is pretty useless unless you learn basic tools like the packet manager for installing drivers and applications.
Since a dispute a few years ago, linux can no longer ship with mp3 or avi drivers. For this you will need to use your packet manager to download encoders.
hey i have an ee and ive been wanting a new operating system but i can figure out how to put xubuntu on it, can u message back and tell me how please, oh and ice cuztomization, it looks like vista
Is this a stock eee? Or did you upgrade to 2gb ram? Im gonna get mine in the mail tomorrow, nd im gonna try to install xubutu.. I have no linux experience, but ill sure give it a try. Nice vid btw.
There are built in drivers for some Canon printers in Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu. If you are lucky one of them will work. In my case I had to download them from some place and if you have bad luck, there are no drivers for your printer. Canon are one of the worst manufacturers when it comes to drivers for Linux. My HP printer was automatically found and instlalled on both of my Ubuntu machines and I think that Brother provides Linux drivers on their web site. Canon? No way... :P
Wow! That's one impressive little machine! :D I'm gonna buy one once I can afford it. How much did you pay for it? And was Xubuntu installed by default?
Nah, I don't have one at the moment, but I am seriously looking at buying one. I'm just comparing them to other UMPC's as the harddrive on the EEE is extraordinarily small...
I think that should work, the .iso file for Ubuntu is just 600-something MB, so alternatively you could burn it to a regular CD and install it. Ubuntu on the EEE would be pretty awesome though, Ubuntu is simply the best OS I've tried, and the EEE PC looks really nifty. Doesn't it come with 4 or 8 GB built-in as well?
Usually most drivers are included into Linux kernel itself, so you usually don't install too much. After typical Windows installation, you'll install 5-8 drivers. For typical Ubuntu installation, you need only 0-2.
I guess you mean wireless connection? There is somewhere program called "hardware drivers" for 3rd party and restricted drivers.
You'll find support from ubuntuforums(english) or from your local ubuntu community. For me, that's Ubuntu Finland.
Just curious...why xubuntu? Have you tried Ubuntu (gnome) with the Asus EEE? What can you tell about performance (I know it has a CeleronM)? Thanks for sharing your video.
Xfce is fast... and Xubuntu but if someone could help me get compiz on Xfce that would help... if you can PM me or leave a comment on my page on howto enable compiz on Xfce ~ Xubuntu
if anyones waiting on the price drop, keep waiting. Solid State media is the issue..it doesn't seem to be coming down in price anytime soon. Thats the reason the price wasn't what they suspected it would be.
if you wonder why this thing loads so fast, it's because flash based as your hard drive... so it has to be fast... its not your typical hard drive that spins and reads/writes... limited to its components...
Yea I'll get one soon in time to go back to school the 2GB ones are £179 in PC world when the 4GB ones go to just over that I'll grab one considering a 4GB SD card on Amazon is £7 it shouldn't be too long.
I don't think there's much point in posting the config files as I haven't tweaked them at all. They're just the standard xubuntu files along with compiz installed.
Apparently there is a specific Xubuntu distro image for these machines in the works called Eeexubuntu. The kernel has been custom built for this poarticular machine so the boot time is improved overt the standard version of Xubuntu.
Yes, I've read about eeexubuntu but I think you're slightly mistaken with a few points. It doesn't have a custom kernel, it uses the stock ubuntu one. It isn't optimised for boot times, the eeexubuntu cd simply configures itself correctly for the eee's hardware, and includes the native wifi drivers.
It's not technically a distro because once it's installed it uses the ubuntu repositories. Technically it's a boot cd/image that has been tailored to the eee.
From completely cold to login screen takes 49 seconds, though it doesn't seem that long when you watch it.
In fact, 7 seconds are powering on and getting past the BIOS screen, 2-3 more seconds to get past the grub loader, the boot process itself is less than 40 seconds.
I also timed it from suspend, it took 9 seconds to be usable.
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HarrisonSimmonss 1 year ago
Have Easy Peasy running on My Eee 701 4G and it's pretty cool. But Xubuntu looks much faster. I'll put it on a thumbdrive to compare.
Alfox64 2 years ago
is that a eee700 model? 2gb or 4gb? what ram?
eggchris 2 years ago
It's an eee701, 4GB storage, 512MB ram.
nigelmouse 2 years ago
amazing, really amazing. They are cheap as hell right now and they manage to do everything what I need. I run xubuntu with compiz on my desktop as primary system and seeing that I can do the same combo on an old eee is just amazing.
eggchris 2 years ago
also people coming from windows should try mandriva 09 its so much like windows it's scary.
but most average linux users wont like mandriva because it's not as configurable as debian or ubuntu
skilo837 2 years ago 2
Linux is never going to satisfy the mass market while it requires users to fiddle around installing their own drivers for basic equipment. It's like getting a car knowing included equipment will need manual wiring.. some users will be up for it, but most will not have the confidence
And it's a bit surprising in this case.. how do we come to have a specific distribution for a particular PC, where standard equipment doens't work? And with problems already solved by enthusiasts but not incoporated
tsuchan1 2 years ago
I wouldn't go as far as to say "never," just not any time soon. Linux is still relatively young, mind you. Also, the increasing popularity of Ubuntu is sure to capture the eyes of many (as it already has), soon enough. Ubuntu laptops are being sold now, as are Linux pre-installed systems, embedded devices like the G1 phone from Google/T-Mobile, etc. Not to mention manufacturers are now making their hardware more Linux-friendly by making sure they're compatible. Yup, just a matter or time.
BrokenHorn90 2 years ago
i agree .
most people think it's like sooo hard to install software inside linux but they dont realize that while they are browsing the net looking for software they have to pay for and download all we on linux machines have to do is open up the package manager type in what we are lookin for and install it or if u know exactly what ur lookin for just open a term and type sudo apt-get install "whatever" and bam it downloads it and installs it. very simple
skilo837 2 years ago
i would say, linux is very easy.
i had ubuntu 8.10 on a computer. it was good, but ran a little slow on the old pc. but after 10 minutes, the ubuntu was working with my internet pci card! all i had to do was install ndiswrapper. it was that easy. and, it comes preloaded with firefox and openoffice, two programs that most people only use.
toyotacooper 2 years ago
you realize all major changes in windows requried the same fiddleing read all the complaints about windows 1, 2, 95, ME, and vista, all of them require a lot of fiddling to be effective. the Fiddleing part is temporary so long as driver and software makers supply lack luster support, never say never.
KusuriRX 2 years ago
Hi KusuriRX... they need "fiddling-around" if you install the OS for yourself. That's a big challenge for Linux - Microsoft has as good as ensured that manufacturers sell PCs with Windows installed.
Issue 1> Users have already paid for and got Windows
Issue 2> Very few PCs have all the "fiddling" sorted by the manufacturers.
But in the case of eeeBuntu, it's beyond my understanding why nobody has found it necessary to get all the components working, and then fed back the fixes into the OS.
tsuchan1 2 years ago
i haven't had to install any drivers = Ubuntu 8.10
donuthater 2 years ago
Oh, that's very interesting.
Did I understand well, that you didn't install EEE-Buntu but just the regular Ubuntu 8.10 and yet everything worked perfectly straight away?
That makes me think two things:
1) Very encouraging, I want to try it.
2) In that case, I wonder what is the point of a separate eeeBuntu.
By the way, which model do you have?
tsuchan1 2 years ago
i believe eeeeeeebuntu is smaller.
seepauliedie 2 years ago
seepauliedie: fair point, I see.
tsuchan1 2 years ago
would you be so kind and provide your eeePC specs?
processor, RAM, HDD...etc...
??!
aca85nis 3 years ago
Hi, please I would like to know how did you do it?
ChaosAngel667 3 years ago
XFCE is great.
MAUROdns 3 years ago
My main question is: does all Eee PC hardware still function well when installing regular XUbuntu? Asking because I'm going to be doing this very soon.
DaVince21 3 years ago
Yep, not everything works out of the box but with some tweaks you can get everything working. There's very active forums for finding out the details, google is your friend
nigelmouse 3 years ago
wow. just wow. definitely shows the power of linux over windows
diversenerd12 3 years ago 3
I installed...
eeexubuntu-7.10.3-desktop-i386.iso
in EEE900, it works well,
But: No Web cam,No OpenOffice,Firefox2,no Battery Icon, problem with AVI & MP3 files,
davdi0032 3 years ago
For the webcam you will have to install some standard webcam drivers, and for OpenOffice and Firefox, just install them, what else can I say?
Learn to use your packet manager. Linux is pretty useless unless you learn basic tools like the packet manager for installing drivers and applications.
Since a dispute a few years ago, linux can no longer ship with mp3 or avi drivers. For this you will need to use your packet manager to download encoders.
RyanPridgeon 3 years ago
Sir, I am envious of you tiny laptop with a superior OS xD Seriously, though, this makes me want to get Asus EEE PC.
BrokenHorn90 3 years ago 2
hey i have an ee and ive been wanting a new operating system but i can figure out how to put xubuntu on it, can u message back and tell me how please, oh and ice cuztomization, it looks like vista
popdodle 3 years ago
Is this a stock eee? Or did you upgrade to 2gb ram? Im gonna get mine in the mail tomorrow, nd im gonna try to install xubutu.. I have no linux experience, but ill sure give it a try. Nice vid btw.
scottie2rock 3 years ago
I would try normal Ubuntu then.
Gondee 3 years ago
shit is smooth!
wh333t 3 years ago 2
it looks really great! but one questioni though, where can i download canon drivers for on Xubuntu? for my printer...
poelaertpieterjan 3 years ago
There are built in drivers for some Canon printers in Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu. If you are lucky one of them will work. In my case I had to download them from some place and if you have bad luck, there are no drivers for your printer. Canon are one of the worst manufacturers when it comes to drivers for Linux. My HP printer was automatically found and instlalled on both of my Ubuntu machines and I think that Brother provides Linux drivers on their web site. Canon? No way... :P
guraknugen 3 years ago
Wow! That's one impressive little machine! :D I'm gonna buy one once I can afford it. How much did you pay for it? And was Xubuntu installed by default?
JoeyRamonerulz 3 years ago
They're $400 I think, and it comes with a different OS I think, I can't remember the name, sorry Zandros or something..
goaliejr 3 years ago
Yes, Xandros Linux is the default OS, but I don't know if Xubuntu can some as the default OS. Do you have one, goaliejr?
JoeyRamonerulz 3 years ago
Nah, I don't have one at the moment, but I am seriously looking at buying one. I'm just comparing them to other UMPC's as the harddrive on the EEE is extraordinarily small...
goaliejr 3 years ago
Yeah it really is, but I've heard it's a pretty good and fast PC. But like you said, the HDD is very small!
JoeyRamonerulz 3 years ago
The biggest SD card I could find was 8GB, and I was just wondering if 8GB would be enough for me :|
With that SD Card, would I be able to put Ubuntu onto it with my desktop computer and install it from the SD card do you know?
goaliejr 3 years ago
There is 16 GB SDs on the market. Found one for approximately $130 when I browsed the web (716 swedish "kronor").
I just wonder why theese effects work on HIS Eee PC but not MINE. Mine are slow as hell.
rightwinglibertarian 3 years ago
I think that should work, the .iso file for Ubuntu is just 600-something MB, so alternatively you could burn it to a regular CD and install it. Ubuntu on the EEE would be pretty awesome though, Ubuntu is simply the best OS I've tried, and the EEE PC looks really nifty. Doesn't it come with 4 or 8 GB built-in as well?
JoeyRamonerulz 3 years ago
Blegh, I've partitioned my hdd and installed Ubuntu 8.04 yesturday, and I can't get my internet connection working
I can't install the drivers because it's in .exe which is for windows :[
goaliejr 3 years ago
What drivers you want to install?
Usually most drivers are included into Linux kernel itself, so you usually don't install too much. After typical Windows installation, you'll install 5-8 drivers. For typical Ubuntu installation, you need only 0-2.
I guess you mean wireless connection? There is somewhere program called "hardware drivers" for 3rd party and restricted drivers.
You'll find support from ubuntuforums(english) or from your local ubuntu community. For me, that's Ubuntu Finland.
wallyllaw 3 years ago 2
if you buy it from effeicentpc or something you can have it with normal Ubuntu costermised with all the drivers
LordZope 3 years ago
I have Xubuntu on my eeePC but no wi-fi. Did you get yours to work? Where did you get the driver? Can you provide link to the resource? Thx.
ihatefatmonkeys 3 years ago
lol
A little pc like this can run compiz and mine will die loading compiz =p
Man, I sure need a upgrade on this pc ^^
xRazienx 3 years ago 2
So how is the heat response to the work that the intel video chip has to do compared to having no composite video acceleration?
ladyattis 3 years ago
it looks good it inspired me to switch to linux... now i run eeeXubuntu...just one question
dude how did u run the compiz... every time i run 'compiz --replace' it locks to one desktop view and that all... no effects nada any suggestions?
skuma718 3 years ago
when i saw your desktop wallpaper i thought -what the duck?-
trepiccanti 3 years ago 7
Hehe.
nigelmouse 3 years ago
Very nice but where do you download thees compiz? dose it comes with xubuntu normally?
Zalariz 3 years ago
Compiz is an add-in package for xubuntu. If you search for it you will find many sites with walkthrough instructions of how to add it to xubuntu
nigelmouse 3 years ago
pretty nice!, what is your harwar compatibilities is it 2GB HD with 512RAM? will this option works with what you did to your notebook?
What about the original OS that comes with the Asus eee notebook did you format it? or duel booted it with xubuntu?
Did you use a external dvd drive to install xubuntu or a SD card?
Thanks for the vid!
Zalariz 3 years ago
The HW is the standard 701 with 4gig sd and 512Mb ram, I have not modified it in any way.
I wiped the original OS completely to give me as much disk space as possible.
I installed it using a USB CD drive and a CD of xubuntu.
nigelmouse 3 years ago
where's the sound? turn it up a little bit.
AmnAbdulla9 3 years ago
Just curious...why xubuntu? Have you tried Ubuntu (gnome) with the Asus EEE? What can you tell about performance (I know it has a CeleronM)? Thanks for sharing your video.
asphixmx 3 years ago
because xubuntu is faster (uses less processes) and also its a known fact that gnome is faster and lighter then kde
simonim 3 years ago
Woot I hate kde (it's just so... ugh!) Gnome's good though. I heard they're releasing KDE for windows, hopefully they do the same with gnome.
(I finally gave up on ubuntu when it refused to work with my hardware + I like to be able to play games)
cornflaker 3 years ago
Not only that, it's pretty buggy and full of fail.
Gnome was a good starter for me, but it's also pretty slow at times
xfce is just perfect, I love the customization, look, and fastness of it.
Amebixfan 3 years ago
Xfce is fast... and Xubuntu but if someone could help me get compiz on Xfce that would help... if you can PM me or leave a comment on my page on howto enable compiz on Xfce ~ Xubuntu
meox45 3 years ago
if anyones waiting on the price drop, keep waiting. Solid State media is the issue..it doesn't seem to be coming down in price anytime soon. Thats the reason the price wasn't what they suspected it would be.
spacer77 3 years ago
if you wonder why this thing loads so fast, it's because flash based as your hard drive... so it has to be fast... its not your typical hard drive that spins and reads/writes... limited to its components...
eliden 4 years ago 2
holy crap. the video performance is incredible. I wasn't expecting that with such a small price tag
celinocaliente2002 4 years ago 4
I am interested in buying one, especially if they can Xbuntu on it. ;-)
mohanpram 4 years ago 3
Same here! I like the fact that it's ultra-portable, but I didn't want to use the watered down linux that it comes with... Xbuntu = Very Sexy!
Sweet video!
hotlatinmonkey 4 years ago 2
Why doesn't the picture fit the screen? I am interested in one of these, but not if it looks like that.
tdrusk 4 years ago
The picture does fit the screen, but the screen doesn't fill the lid.
nigelmouse 4 years ago
ah I noticed that last night. Cool stuff. I would buy one if they were cheaper.
tdrusk 4 years ago
Haha, as if £200/$399 wasn't cheap enough for a brand new laptop.
JonRF86 4 years ago
All previous talk said it might be $199, which sounded great. I will wait for a price drop. They would be great for college.
tdrusk 4 years ago
If it was released at $199 you'd probably say the same and wait for a price-drop. You're stingy, just buy one or get a crappy Dell.
AdamsHouse 4 years ago 2
No offense whats wrong with waiting for the price to drop if you don't need a PC immediately don't buy one immediately cos they will get cheaper.
What's wrong with cheaper.
LordZope 3 years ago 2
Because the price is already cheap enough, it can't go down much more.
AdamsHouse 3 years ago
Yea I'll get one soon in time to go back to school the 2GB ones are £179 in PC world when the 4GB ones go to just over that I'll grab one considering a 4GB SD card on Amazon is £7 it shouldn't be too long.
LordZope 3 years ago
Very impressive! I don't suppose you have posted your compiz config files online anywhere for others to use? Would be a fantastic resource.
everyunitone 4 years ago
I don't think there's much point in posting the config files as I haven't tweaked them at all. They're just the standard xubuntu files along with compiz installed.
nigelmouse 4 years ago
I have a question. How much room did xubuntu take up on the Eee drive? Thanks.
darealbigtigga 4 years ago
I've added a few packages since I installed it so I can't tell you how much the original install took. I think it was about 2 gig though.
nigelmouse 4 years ago
amazing... if there is not one under the tree the morning after tomorrow i'm running to my desktop and buying one online... salivation
paintandswim09 4 years ago
did you need to add more ram for compiz to run that smoothly? thanks dude!
gibson9001 4 years ago
nope, this is using the original spec'd machine with no hardware changes.
nigelmouse 4 years ago
Apparently there is a specific Xubuntu distro image for these machines in the works called Eeexubuntu. The kernel has been custom built for this poarticular machine so the boot time is improved overt the standard version of Xubuntu.
LinuxGalore 4 years ago
Yes, I've read about eeexubuntu but I think you're slightly mistaken with a few points. It doesn't have a custom kernel, it uses the stock ubuntu one. It isn't optimised for boot times, the eeexubuntu cd simply configures itself correctly for the eee's hardware, and includes the native wifi drivers.
It's not technically a distro because once it's installed it uses the ubuntu repositories. Technically it's a boot cd/image that has been tailored to the eee.
nigelmouse 4 years ago
that is so cool - linux rules!
trublurider 4 years ago
Very cool. You just convinced a Linux newbie to get one and load up Xubuntu and Compiz.
annabwashere 4 years ago
I wonder, would this work if xubuntu was booted from a SDHC card?
jmh1 4 years ago
I don't see why not
nigelmouse 4 years ago
From completely cold to login screen takes 49 seconds, though it doesn't seem that long when you watch it.
In fact, 7 seconds are powering on and getting past the BIOS screen, 2-3 more seconds to get past the grub loader, the boot process itself is less than 40 seconds.
I also timed it from suspend, it took 9 seconds to be usable.
nigelmouse 4 years ago
i'm waiting for hte 8g version to come down in price
historywillabsolve 4 years ago
Sweet dude
osnap32 4 years ago
AWESOME!! how did you get xubuntu on the Eee?
nvikram 4 years ago
I used an external usb cd drive and booted from that. It was pretty straightforward.
nigelmouse 4 years ago
MONEY...mine comes tomorrow
btw whats the difference between xubuntu and regular ubuntu?
ethanemc505 4 years ago
xubuntu is just a lighter version of ubuntu w/ the same exact repositories!
nvikram 4 years ago
That is truely awesome. How did you get it to work?
gideonMorrison 4 years ago