haha this video is a poor attempt at trying to put down the jw's hah.... simple fact, we do get advised to get short careers, 1 to 2 years. how many unemployed ppl u know know who have careers? many. or theres ppl who spend their whole lives in college, always going to get a higher degree i personally know some. on the other hand, many pioneers i know lead happy lives with an average job living simple lives. good try buddy haha
in France school is free to the smart, free med school tuition paid if you are brilliant.....the witnesses have witness doctors THERE. would like to meet one. signed, good looking
serious respectful question for this thread of comments, okay so I quit and pioneer, who buys the food, heat and water bill? we all need to do something for even the basic pocket change of life.....the cleaning lady did get $80....no school but $80 for four hours cleaning my tiny place.
@slanelcla how can they attempt to measure happiness? It doesnt seem like they could get very accuarate results, seeing how JWs are all about apprences. I used to say things like "Im fine with no holidays" or "I dont feel left out not being able to do this or that"... I was lying. Im sure adults lie as well. So basically out of the ones who will ADMIT unhappiness, they got the results... or was it the number of jws on antidepressents?
@SmokingNtheGraveyard Ah but they were honest. Take for example the satisfaction with family life. 69% said they were very satisfied with their family life. Only one other religious group was lower in the very satisfied catagory. Very interesting stats indeed. I wanted to make a video of this.
@slanelcla how can they attempt to measure happiness? It doesnt seem like they could get very accuarate results, seeing how JWs are all about apprences. I used to say things like "Im fine with no holidays" or "I dont feel left out not being able to do this or that"... I was lying. Im sure adults lie as well. So basically out of the ones who will ADMIT unhappiness, they got the results... or was it the number of jws on antidepressents?
The illnesses described aren't the ramifications of getting a higher education or having a hi tech career but choosing to become one of Jehovah's Witnesses.
I'm thinking about a million things right now, and I can barely sort out what the type fast enough. Certainly have more things to say than the 500 characters will allow.
Bottom line is....this post was right on the money. I have forgiven and forgotten a lot about my life growin up under their black wing, but I will never forgive them for the disservice they committed against my life in the area of education.
and my personal favorite, the ability to laugh! its such a wonderful and magical feeling to laugh ! abnout the stupidest stuff sometimes but it makes us happy ! and it unnessisarry. but we have it anyways. and why? to enjoy the life that Jehovah has given us.
Sometimes, when something is really funny, I laugh so hard I can't catch my breath. There's some genius design there! Speaking of things we have and don't need for survival, what about the appendix? You got a smart answer for that? Considering that your spelling makes me look like Noah Webster, I doubt it.
That's the problem, no one thinks about these things until someone makes them. The appendix is but one organ that seems to serve no use. Wisdom teeth, the tail bone, the "pinkie" toe. What are they good for?
i guess in our imperfect world, we cant find answers for things because we're sinners and dont have the ability to talk to God face to face. but some day we will know.
Or maybe it's because of people like you who want us to follow bronze age myths instead of trying to find answers. You do not see the irony of claiming that someday we will know the answers to unanswerable questions in the comment section condemning JWs for discouraging education?
The real reason to discorage higher education is that one will no longer be ignorant; developing critical thinking skills allows one to examine the absudities preached by the WT society. Then the only option is to run as fast as possible from the Kingdom Hall and the WT society. They can't afford to loose that many followers. It's a scare tactic and powerful mind washing.
This organization does not pay the 7 million JW around the world to go find the people at their houses&teach them what the bible really teaches, but we do it anyways becaasue we KNOW that this is the truth. We KNOW that we r so close 2 the end of Satan&soon we will be perfect agian&we wont die&we wont age. Jehovah will give us the ability to know EVERYTHING! Why do we need a career on sumthin that we will already know in a bit of time? its useless. GO & HELP PEOLE UNDERSTAND Y WE R DOING THIS!
the reason its like this is because if we were to get a career, lets say to be a doctor, we wont need it in the NEW SYSTEM where we will be perfect. WE DONT NEED RICHES AND MONEY just enough to have a roof on our head and bread on the table. Jehovah will destroy this system of Satan. We do this "career" becasue we love Jehovah and he gives us his Holy Spirit to teach people like YOU about the TRUTH.
ha! thank you very much! because that is exactly what everyone told Jesus when he was preaching the Good News of the New System! thank you very much! that lets me know that i am doing what i have to do. Dont believe me? read the bible!
Please. You JWs always use this "when someone tells me I'm wrong it proves I'm doing what's right" defense. Scientologists and Mormons and even skinheads use the same defense. You're not fooling anyone but yourselves.
AND i invite you to read Revelaction 21:4. That scripture is oviously not happing right now so when will it happen? in the NEW SYSTEM. Do you honestly think that God made us just to live 70, 80, mabey 90 years? apsolutly not! just live and then die with no hope at all? no hope to see the love ones you have lost? just work and die? apsolutly not! there is no sense to makeing us for nothing.
I don't care what Revelation says. God didn't make anyone because God is an invisible friend you invented to help you face a world that you're too needy and weak to face alone. God is a voice in your head as you babble to yourself alone in the dark.
im sorry to say that you are quite wrong. but i will let you be. no need to talk to an ignorant person about the creator that created you. but when that day comes, i know you will think about ME and this conversation. good day to you.
Yeah yeah, I know, I'm wrong because you assert it so without any evidence to support your claims. "When I have no evidence I just call my detractors ignorant and say they're not worth arguing with so I can sink back into my own world of delusional fantasy." Nice to know that you think so much of yourself that you believe that when this mythical day of wrath arrives, it'll be you, a random internet person, I will remember. Shows your ego.
y should i argue with u if all u r going to do is put down the TRUTH? look, i dont want to be rude or anything like that to you okay? but i will say 1 thing. Give yourself a chance, just one chance, 2 study what we Jehovah Witnesses teach 2 the world, & if u think that all of it is crap, then fine, it is crap 4 u. but once u let you heart touch what your creator has done 4 u, u will understand. abd about the ego thing, its wrong 2 have an ego. thats y u should read the bible :)
I know what you teach. I attended your meetings 3 days a week for 14 years and realized it was all nonsense.
I've read the Bible. Many times. I still read it. I enjoy reading it the same way I enjoy reading The Illiad or Lord of the Rings. It's interesting fiction, once and a while there is a decent moral, but I don't live my life around it or believe that it's inspired by some nonexistent god.
Until evidence is provided that I'm wrong I will continue to believe what I do.
I've made dozens of videos exposing the JWs, as well as videos explaining why I became an atheist. You can choose to watch some of them if you like. I'm not going to re-tell my story nor try to fit it into a 500 character comment.
In short I lost faith in the Bible before I lost faith in your org. So I didn't just leave your org and then later lose faith in the Bible. I stopped believing in the Bible which obviously led me to leaving the WT. It was later that I realized how corrupt the WT was.
well, im disapointed that a brother like you has left the truth, but you take your desisions, not me or anyone else. i would just like you to know that what you are doing is a mistake, and i encourage you to take anouther chance and come back. the meetings have changed to only 2 times a week :) have a great life and you never know, i might see you in the new system.
Yeah and Muslims say what I'm doing is a mistake, so do Catholics, Mormons, Baptists, Scientologists, Seventh Day Adventists, etc.
I need evidence before I am going to dedicate my life to any religion, and in 24 years of praying I've never received anything. So until God sees fit to actually lead me to the truth - as I prayed to him for MANY YEARS to do - I will just continue as an atheist.
okay, what if Jehovah God lead me to talk to you, because he knows you has a good heart. wouldn't that be the answer to your prayers? please brother of mine, re-learn and study with us again. i promise you that you wont regret it :)
A Baptist or a Mormon could say the exact same thing. Any of them could just talk to me on the street and say that God might have lead them to talk to me. Heck I have Christians of all denominations say pretty much the same thing to me all the time, especially on YouTube.
I drove by this church and the marquee said "You asked for a sign? This is it." I thought that was quite clever, especially for a church, but I still didn't go in.
If I did become a Christian, I assure you I wouldn't be a JW.
That's what members of every religion say. You still haven't shown me the slightest shred of evidence to substantiate your claims. All you've done is attempt to scare me. It doesn't scare me when Baptists warn me I'll burn in Hell forever, and it certainly doesn't scare me that your God will make me sleep forever.
im not here to scare you. im here to warn you that what you are doing is wrong. btw, hell doesnt exsist. how do i know that there will be a new system? read Revelacion 21:4. this scripture is telling us what JEHOVAH GOD will do.
I know Hell doesn't exist. My point is that all religions have some punishment that will occur if you don't believe them.
You say you're not here to scare me, but all you've done is said I'll be sorry, I'll be punished, etc. No evidence to validate your claims, just threats of punishment if I don't comply. That's an attempt to scare, and my point is, your claims don't scare me any more than a mainstream Christian's claims that I will go to Hell.
(cont) I understand that your belief in the New System is based on your interpretation of scripture. I don't BELIEVE there is any such thing as God, nor do I believe that any book is inspired by this nonexistent God. So it hardly matters to me why you believe in something unless you can show me evidence that your source - in this case, the Bible - is true. I get Christians sending me articles and videos DAILY to "prove" this and none, so far, have been successful.
okay. well that is that. i'll leave you to your religion full of lies. hopefully i can see you in the new system if you relize that we are the truth. btw, i go my first talk at the meeting today! im so excited!
Atheism isn't a religion, and truth has evidence. You've provided none. Therefore I have no religion full of lies. Speaking of lies, how's the Theocratic War Strategy working for ya?
okay, if you dont belive the bible as evidence, so look at this world. take a Parrot for instance. You look at the beautiful colors and the fact that they can talk! you can see that they have intelligence. you can see the sence of humor Jehovah has in such beautiful artwork. Take our brain. so complex and what a machine to our beautiful. How did it come to be? its ovious there is a creator.
the fact that earth is at a perfect 23.5 degree tilt. and because of that, we have seasons! dont you love when the flowers start blooming in spring? when the leaves change color in fall?
the fact that we have the ability to laugh :D we dont need to laugh to live! but yet, Jehovah gave it to us so we can enjoy life! he didnt need to give us taste to live, but he did so we can enjoy a good strawberry. dont you think there is an intelligent creature that gave us this? of course there is!
I can't address your first point because I'm unaware of its relevance. Yes, the earth is tilted and we have seasons. I'm not sure how this is evidence of an intelligent creator.
The ability to laugh is found in other primates which predated mankind including bonobos. It's an ability that evolved to help regulate social interactions.
Taste is necessary as it can help prevent you from eating spoiled, rotten, and otherwise dangerous foods. (cont)
Early humans who could not taste were more likely to die since they would eat things that were spoiled and deadly. They died and did not pass on their genes, while those who could taste survived long enough to pass on their genetic material.
Do you know why color blindness is increasingly common? Same reason. At one time, being colorblind was deadly dangerous. Colorblind humans died off and those who could see in colors passed on their genes. (cont)
Now, with our ability to refrigerate, freeze, and in other ways preserve foods, and the fact that most of us do not need to be able to easily differentiate between venomous and non-venomous snakes, poisonous plants, etc, those who cannot see in color pass on their genes much more often.
While seeing in color is wonderful, it is no longer necessary for survival, and we are losing it. It was not a gift from some creator god.
okay, in many cases taste is nessesary. but just think for a second. we DONT need it to live. if we already know what to eat and what not to eat, we wouldnt have the problem of killing ourselves.
color to see in so not nessesary! we can live being blind! but why do we have it? your probably going to give some stupid scientific evidence saying why we need it ot go "we got it". but no, we have it to enjoy life.
I already explained the evolutionary origins of taste and seeing in color. And LOL at me giving "stupid scientific evidence." If you think actual scientific evidence of why things are the way they are is stupid then I'm just wasting my time here. It doesn't matter what I say because you think science and evidence is stupid to begin with.
what about our universe? all those billions of stars that we see every night. most of them arent even stars! they are other galaxies! the beautiful colors of the universe! that couldnt just pop up due to nothing.
i dont think it is completly stupid. but so much that scientist have discovered was written in the bible 2000 years before they discovered it! for example the tilt of the earth (isaias 40:22). how bacteria excist (somewhere in Exudus. doesnt come to mind right now). and so much more! humanity could have bractecly already known this if they just sat their stupid butts in a chair and read the bible.
That scripture doesn't say the earth is at a tilt. I think you're confusing some other scripture with this one, which Christians use to claim the Bible predicted the world was round. That's not true; the word used is the Hebrew word for circle, which is flat, not the Hebrew word for sphere.
So you have yet to show me something the Bible predicts that scientists learned later.
you have to remember that vocabulary changes many times every year. and the bible was written in Hebrew, Aramic, and Greek. The most probable idea is that back then this meant as a sphere. it doesnt take an Instein to figure that out.
Sorry, they had a word for "sphere." They used the word for a round, flat surface.Probably how Jesus could see the entire earth from the top of a tall mountain.
Not a single person ever claimed that "the most probable idea is that it meant sphere" until we discovered the earth was a sphere, then suddenly the word meant something else so that the Bible could have some amazing "proof."
Sorry, changing the meaning of words isn't convincing. It doesn't take an "Instein" to figure that out.
look you idiot. im fricken tired of being nice to your ignorant face. YOU made a mistake even though you say you dont. I KNOW YOU DID! there is apsolutly nothing about Jehovah that you can prove wrong. NOTHING! so if you want to be efin retarted about it, go ahead. i tired og helping you save your life when Armegedon comes. But you will relize that you are wrong one way or another.
ahahahahaha and when the JW can't prove his side he descends into namecalling and ad hominem attacks. Ahahahahaha. I knew you couldn't follow Jesus' commandments very long before you flipped out and starting insulting me.
Sorry that all your evidence turned out to be totally unprovable bullshit and you can't back up your assertion that I'm wrong about the meaning of that word, and it makes you mad. lol this is going into my next "lovingkindness from JWs" video for sure!
HOW DARE YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THE HEBREW WORD FOR CIRCLE IS AND WHAT IT MEANS AND PROVE IT DOESN'T MEANT SPHERE! YOU IDIOT! I KNOW JESUS SAID TO BLESS THOSE WHO CURSE ME AND LOVE THOSE WHO HATE ME AND DO KIND FOR THOSE WHO PERSECUTE ME BUT YOU ARE EFIN RETARDED FOR NOT BELIEVING MY EASILY REFUTED EVIDENCE! SCIENCE IS DUMB! GOD WILL MURDER YOU YOU RETARDED IDIOT!
hahaha man you guys are such good Witnesses for Jehovah!
ya like you would know what a real witness is. you betrayed the truth. and i didnt say thatr i understoof the hebrew meaning! i said probably it meant. did i say IT MEANS??????? and do you eben know why the heck my evidence isnt the best!? BECAUSE IM STILL LEARNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who do you think i am? but i know enough to defend what i belive and to belive that it is THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"and i didnt say thatr i understoof the hebrew meaning!"
Ah, here comes the Theocratic War Strategy! I never said you understood the Hebrew meaning. I said you DIDN'T understand it. And you got terribly butthurt and began namecalling because I proved you didn't know what you were talking about.
So... your idea of evidence is telling me what a word in a language you know nothing about "probably" means in your opinion? It's okay that you don't know and haven't research that word or that language a bit, your evidence is fantastic because you know what you think in your opinion it "probably" means! I shit my pants in awe of your awesome evidence.
If you don't know if it really means that, then you shouldn't be holding it up as evidence to support your side. I'd love to see a real debate where someone's entire argument is founded upon "probably" and "maybe" and "I don't know because I haven't studied or researched but I think probably," followed up by a liberal amount of namecalling.
"BECAUSE IM STILL LEARNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Oh you're still learning? Awesome, so who are you to keep telling me I'm wrong every time I discredit your phony "evidence?"
"Who do you think i am?"
An easily-angered, gullible dupe who presents easily refuted evidence and then screams and yells and throws a fit like a little child when you're proven wrong.
"but i know enough to defend what i belive and to belive that it is THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Unfortunately, you don't know enough to defend what you believe. I proved that here today. But use a million exclamation points and namecall some more, surely that will prove your side.
i dont know it all by heart, forgive me on that, but i know for a fact that this is the truth. because i have studied it more than anything i have ever studied before, because i have proven why this is this and why this is that. because everything i have learned makes sence in life and makes goes together like a perfect puzzle that goes together. everything is so beautiful and humbel. and our creator truely does love us. even though you are ignorant towards your creator.
"im not a child. i am just trying to get through your rock-liked head and rock-licked heart."
Christ you're a retard. So if someone asks for evidence to support a claim, it makes their head "rocklike?" OMG SOMEONE WANTS PROOF BEFORE THEY BELIEVE STUFF, THAT MAKES THEM AN IDIOT AND A ROCKHEAD!!!!
All you've managed to do is make a bunch of easily debunkable, idiotic claims that I have shredded apart with ease.
No wonder the world hates JWs. You're a bunch of fucking assholes.
what part of, im still learning dont you understand? do you expect me to know everything by heart? no bedcasue we are not perfect. but like i said, i know enough and well enough to know that it is the truth.
Yeah I know. Keep telling yourself that. Maybe your nonexistent god who lives in another dimension will look deep into that organ in your chest that pumps blood through your body and forgive you for ignoring his son's commands.
As for being humble, you've shown no signs of being humble whatsoever. "Humbel to say it?" To say what? That you're wrong? Once again, I do admit when I'm wrong, but I haven't said anything so far here that has been wrong. You have.
So it's hard-headed to not believe something without evidence huh? What magical wor'd of retard do you live in where people are supposed to believe everything they hear without any evidence?
you have supposivly studies eberything right smart one? youre hard headed for not being humbel enough to belive it. its as simple as that. now, go and find yourself a life and stop ruining other peoples. next time, keep your big irritating mouth shut bcuz no one wants to here.
I was a JW for 14 years. Where did I say I wasn't? I said I haven't STUDIED EVERYTHING. I assumed you meant I've studied everything on earth, in a lame attempt at sarcastically claiming I know everything, which is what you implied.
If you don't want to debate with atheists and people who dislike JWs, then run along back to your pro-cult videos. I don't bother you idiots on your boring videos, don't bother me on mine. Nobody put a gun to your head and forced you here.
hahahaha, keep proving what a good Christian you are. All your evidence was bullshit and I showed you up once again, so now all you can do is call me an idiot.
Get the fuck off these anti-JW videos and run back to your cult, little bitch.
I disproved all your "evidence." Sorry that you think people are supposed to believe whatever you say.
You know what's sad? Non JW Christians are rarely as rude and nasty as you've been to me. For example, Middleman777 is a Christian whom I actually like. I've seen people insult him, and he never says an unkind word. He's actually made me THINK about what he's saying and made me receptive.
But you JWs do nothing but act like assholes and turn people off from ever listening.
whatever ignorant asshole. i have nothing to say to you anymore because you are a hard headed DB. get a life instead of getting fat in front of the tv. you'll see later.
I did think about it, and I proved why they were all horseshit. Each and every one I explained away. Why don't you go enjoy your supposed "vacation" and stop arguing on apostate videos if you're such a pussy you can't handle it?
My icon actually says "God listens TO SLAYER" but you're fucking illiterate.
Your quotes will be on a video on my channel in the next hour or so. Enjoy!
Judgement day is coming VERY SOON... and all non-believers in the tribal war god jehovah and his imperfect man-made book called the holy bible will be exterminated.
Do you nelly? Have you investigated, both by studying theology and proving God scientifically? You might say, like our good buddy Shawn; aka VFX/PCS, "You can't prove God scientifically because he is outside our universe." If so, he still interacts with our universe, thus he would have to leave some sign of his presence. Example: UV light cannot be perceived by our senses, but we know it exists based on its effects, like sunburns and cancer.
wow, okay whatever. l dont want to start an argument because i know for a fact Jehovah God does exist. and his day will be shown very very soon. you cant even imagine. its not that i have evidence because i do, its that i dont want to argue and try to make an ignorant person undeerstand the beauty of their creator. so good day to you sir.
You don't wanna start an argument??? What kind of Witness are you? Jehovah does exist, even though you have no proof, his day is coming, like it has been for nearly 150 and even the Bible; written almost 2,000 years ago says "behold I come quickly."
bcuz people only want to fight and stand up for their "theres no crator" argument when we can see it all around us. take ourselves for example. we dont need sight to live. blind people llive without it. but we have it bcuz Jehovah gave it to us to enjoy life! if their wasnt illnesses (which was Jehovahs intention to not have) we wouldnt need the ability to feel. but we have it so we can enjoy the sun in the su,mmer. or the soft grass when we lay down.
I'll have to tell my blind friend LeeAnn what you said. Maybe the hardship she's suffered for being sightless won't seem so bad. Isn't enjoyment subjective? I looove tomatos! My ex-wife hates them. If Jehovah never intend for us to get sick, why do we have an immune system at all? Yeah, I really enjoy those 105 degree days in summer! And mowing all summer long for peanuts!
bcuz with Jehovahs Holy Spirit, they were able to write it. remember that the imperfect men were the ones that wrote it on paperm, but ever word is inspired by God (2 Timothy 3:16, 17)
Well, every word I write is inspired by the Great Green Arkleseizure! Who is Lord over all because he sneezed it into existance! We await the coming of the Great White Handkerchief!
YOU can keep on thinking whatever you want. I know the truth and im not ignorant about it. We do not discourage education, we just pput Jehovah God first in our hearts.
I wish I had kept the note, yes; in-laws used to write me notes!, that my mother-in-law wrote to me when I suggested that I further my education, as to better support her daughter! She tore into me!
You "know the truth" but you have no evidence. I am glad you aren't a police officer, or a doctor, or a scientist.
Yeah! Imagine people wanting "proof"! They should just accept what a bunch of guys in suits say, because they claim to have "special knowledge" that we lack.
You wear a suit?? I thought you were a girl? And no, it's not the suit per se, it's worn like a uniform. Like someone putting on a lab coat, you assume he's a doctor or a scientist. Unlike medical or scientific fact, "spiritual truth" cannot be tested, measured and thus not proven! Constantly I was told how this was a "spiritual paradise" how Jehovah's people were "happy", when I was miserable most of the time. The elders told me to pray, in a left handed way, told me it was my fault.
i dont wear a suit duh ! and its not worn like a uniform that we dont want to wear all the time. its something we decide to because we, as humans, represent Jehovah in everything we do. besides, many of the things that scientist have found out in the last..100, 200 years, we already told in the bible 2000 years ago.
and the fact that you were miserable is not my, or any of the witnesses fault. it was yours because you did not find the confort in it. you did not find the balance and the beauty it takes to be a witness. frankly, it was not us or jehovah.
Thank you for being 100% predictable. I expected no less. Why don't you use that vast knowledge you somehow have aquired about me without even knowing me and tell me what I should have done?
"next time, keep your big irritating mouth shut bcuz no one wants to here. "
Fuck you bitch. This is an anti-JW video made by an atheist. He's also my friend. If you don't like what I say, go to your bullshit Jehovah dicksucking videos and stay the fuck off of these. I don't give a fuck if you're irritated. Go fuck your mother.
you are an idiot. i said i was still learning and you said who am i to tell you youre wrong? im learning it, understand it, proving it, and preaching it. you oviously are an idiot. yes i kknow i am treating my enemie (you) with disrespect and i will apoligies to GOD later but ignorant people like you get on my last nerves, and that is still something that i must work on because iim HUMBEL enough to addmitt that i am wrong on that, unlike you.
Attention dumbfuck: saying someone has no life, calling them an idiot, etc is an attack. Sorry that on planet stupid fuck where you live you don't know that. Then again, you don't even know that "ignorant" means "lacking knowledge" which also means that since you admitted to not knowing a lot about this stuff("I'm still studying") then you're the very thing you accused me of being without even being smart enough to realize it.
Your English is a nightmare! So you will excuse me if I don't trust your assessment of other languages. How do you know what the original texts say? Did you bother learning Hebrew, Greek and Aramic? Or are you just vomiting back what the WTS has told you?
I find the YPA book THE funniest book to come out of the WT where the GB, who may have had kids......ages ago, aren't in the loop and NONE of the Bethelites can have kids! lol!
Besides SmokingNtheGraveyard this was not about wethever or not my religion is right. It is about if its a smart thing to do extra education if it is right. There is no need to work alot all day when you can go and preach.
Besides high education aint a gurantee. YOu might end up on MC donalds after ... like 6 yars of education after college so you might as well skip 6 years take an easy job and dedicate you're life to what you believ the most in.
That has got to be the most ignorant comment I've ever read anywhere., If a college Grad is working in McDonalds he's in management, and making what managers make anywhere... you are a loser following the men you follow, get a life, go to college and quit making stupid comments.
You got it from the WT and that's reliable? You are the stupidest person I've ever talked to. If they get their stats from any sources then you'd be able to find them on the net. You complete bumbling fool, you are the kind that needs an education the most.. god you are a loser!
the jw are very reliable. They actually check the facts they get several times over.
I am atm studying advanced maths. And i have got some really high ggrades.
You are ignorant to deny that Wt is reliable. atleast when it comes to statistics they are 99 percent reliable. IF they are wrong it is cause their sources were wrong =D
That it[Studies in the Scriptures, Vol VII] contains some mistakes is freely admitted. Even the Bible contains some. - The Watchtower, April 1, 1920, p. 103
As every one knows, there are mistakes in the Bible and there has never been a book written yet that is perfect that has been written by any human hand. - The Watchtower, April 15, 1928
Are you telling me the word of God, the unquestionable book contains mistakes, doesn't that debunk all religions? This is hysterical. The whole basis around why the bible is proven to be the inspired word of God is that it has no mistakes. Look at your own publications on the subject. SOOOOO Funny. Best laugh I had in ages. If it has mistakes, then how can you know you are so right about everything? You can't, NO ONE KNOWS. This is the point.
Grammatical mistakes, spelling mistakes, writing a character wrong, etc are all mistakes that do not affect the divinely inspired nature of the Bible, retard.
How Christion you are. You prove all the anti-JW remarks. Good job. You did not state grammatical, spelling, or writing a character wrong. Your defense was so lame and when your called on it, you resort to "retard". Good for a 58 year-old. Your intelligent oozes from the screen. You're still making me laugh.
You go for the bait everytime! By the way I'm not a boy. I bet that stings even worse. Keep on with your profanity. Please do keep showing love as Jesus would. Your such a good man; cussing an annonymous woman because she finds you humorous, and she's not in fear of the Governing Body member.
I like how you replied to me, then I replied to you, and this means I "went for the bait." Truly you have outsmarted me, what with how you comment and I reply. Ooch! Eech! Ouch! You sure showed me!
Remember when you said you wouldn't PM me anymore then sent me 2 more? That makes 10 today.
Oh but I replied to some of them, that means I "took the bait." Ha ha, you sure got me good, tricking me into replying to 20% of your PMs that took you 10x longer than me to write! You are truly a mastermind of internet ownage!
Do you have a problem with private messages? Do you think I have a thing for you when I PM you? PM's are quicker because I respond straight from my e-mail when they pop up. You're so brilliant. It's because your "Governing Body".
Or maybe you lied when you said you wouldn't send any more and I was pointing it out. Not to mention you're so stupid you can't fit your thoughts in one message and have to send 4 at a fucking time.
Aw are you butthurt because I showed you that your definition of faggot was wrong? Also, your 10 PMs weren't responding to "each individual comment" retard. Hopefully your anti-JW buddies that you have to call in for backup in your weakness will see how you contradict yourself. "LOL you have to have the last word which is why I reply to everything you say!"
Many have wondered how accidents would be avoided during Christ's kingdom, since we are told that nothing shall then hurt or destroy. Most accidents are due to gravitation and its effects. Falling from airplanes.. may be avoided by an individual negative gravity device. The people of the future may carry a little of this energy around with them, and if they fall down an elevator shaft they can let themselves down easy. - Golden Age, 24th March 1926
Hey, I saw a watchtower magazine with a picture of a a boy in paradise earth holding a plastic bucket and spade. You say that there will be no pollution in the Paradise earth? Well then explain to me this; How did the boy get the plastic bucket and spade. To make it, oil would need to be found. This would involve heavy machinery made of metals that can only be found via mining/ smelting, all of which creates pollution and involves MORE heavy apparatus that also needs to be made.
Yeah. But not just a bucket and spade. EVERYTHING. How are you going to make anything we have now? Or are you just going to go back to living like you're in the stone age? And there's no need to get rude about it - I'm asking you a question NOT in an attempt to debunk your belief but because I'm genuinely interested.
haha this video is a poor attempt at trying to put down the jw's hah.... simple fact, we do get advised to get short careers, 1 to 2 years. how many unemployed ppl u know know who have careers? many. or theres ppl who spend their whole lives in college, always going to get a higher degree i personally know some. on the other hand, many pioneers i know lead happy lives with an average job living simple lives. good try buddy haha
lowercase18 5 months ago
save for retirement
thepixieful 10 months ago
in France school is free to the smart, free med school tuition paid if you are brilliant.....the witnesses have witness doctors THERE. would like to meet one. signed, good looking
thepixieful 10 months ago
serious respectful question for this thread of comments, okay so I quit and pioneer, who buys the food, heat and water bill? we all need to do something for even the basic pocket change of life.....the cleaning lady did get $80....no school but $80 for four hours cleaning my tiny place.
thepixieful 10 months ago
oddly their lawyer ALL have juris doctor, Ph.D. in LAW school,,,,,,,SCHOOL......
thepixieful 10 months ago
my college education was a great help in dollars per hour, that is important, dollars PER hour.
thepixieful 10 months ago
The PEW research foundation had some very interesting stats on the JW's level of happiness. It isn't the way they make it out to be.
slanelcla 10 months ago
@slanelcla how can they attempt to measure happiness? It doesnt seem like they could get very accuarate results, seeing how JWs are all about apprences. I used to say things like "Im fine with no holidays" or "I dont feel left out not being able to do this or that"... I was lying. Im sure adults lie as well. So basically out of the ones who will ADMIT unhappiness, they got the results... or was it the number of jws on antidepressents?
SmokingNtheGraveyard 10 months ago
@SmokingNtheGraveyard Ah but they were honest. Take for example the satisfaction with family life. 69% said they were very satisfied with their family life. Only one other religious group was lower in the very satisfied catagory. Very interesting stats indeed. I wanted to make a video of this.
slanelcla 10 months ago
@slanelcla how can they attempt to measure happiness? It doesnt seem like they could get very accuarate results, seeing how JWs are all about apprences. I used to say things like "Im fine with no holidays" or "I dont feel left out not being able to do this or that"... I was lying. Im sure adults lie as well. So basically out of the ones who will ADMIT unhappiness, they got the results... or was it the number of jws on antidepressents?
SmokingNtheGraveyard 10 months ago
I hope witnesses don't go to school, I need to hire people to clean my condo and bmw
slippkapone 1 year ago 2
The illnesses described aren't the ramifications of getting a higher education or having a hi tech career but choosing to become one of Jehovah's Witnesses.
Tawna54321 2 years ago
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DanielMcDirty 2 years ago
I'm thinking about a million things right now, and I can barely sort out what the type fast enough. Certainly have more things to say than the 500 characters will allow.
Bottom line is....this post was right on the money. I have forgiven and forgotten a lot about my life growin up under their black wing, but I will never forgive them for the disservice they committed against my life in the area of education.
sundaymorningsleeper 2 years ago
I definitely agree with you.
As long as everyone is a full-time preacher of the faith, we don't need science, technology, or books or entertainment.
Based on what Richard Dawkins has said, it is offensive when children are denied a proper education.
It is offensive that children of Jehovah's Witnesses are discouraged to accept — as Richard Dawkins puts it — The fact of evolution.
cheeseylemon 2 years ago
Okay nelly4894, if you're so spiritual than what are you doing watching, and commenting on an "apostate"'s video?
TorqueoAnimadverto 2 years ago
They just do not want their members to think for themselves.
jrcasselman 2 years ago 5
What movies and tv depict work as glamorous? Office Space? 9 to 5?
If Witnesses really wanna poison kids as to careers after high school, show 'em those movies! They'll never wanna work!
RadarKat73080 2 years ago
"Life and death"? Are companies installing Thunderdomes?
RadarKat73080 2 years ago
and my personal favorite, the ability to laugh! its such a wonderful and magical feeling to laugh ! abnout the stupidest stuff sometimes but it makes us happy ! and it unnessisarry. but we have it anyways. and why? to enjoy the life that Jehovah has given us.
nelly4894 2 years ago
Sometimes, when something is really funny, I laugh so hard I can't catch my breath. There's some genius design there! Speaking of things we have and don't need for survival, what about the appendix? You got a smart answer for that? Considering that your spelling makes me look like Noah Webster, I doubt it.
RadarKat73080 2 years ago
well sorry for typing so fast ! i was in a hurry to head somewhere with my mom ! geez...
apendix..honestly, i dont know. i havent taken it to concideration to find out why we need it. makes me think.
nelly4894 2 years ago
That's the problem, no one thinks about these things until someone makes them. The appendix is but one organ that seems to serve no use. Wisdom teeth, the tail bone, the "pinkie" toe. What are they good for?
RadarKat73080 2 years ago
i guess in our imperfect world, we cant find answers for things because we're sinners and dont have the ability to talk to God face to face. but some day we will know.
nelly4894 2 years ago
Or maybe it's because of people like you who want us to follow bronze age myths instead of trying to find answers. You do not see the irony of claiming that someday we will know the answers to unanswerable questions in the comment section condemning JWs for discouraging education?
RadarKat73080 2 years ago
The real reason to discorage higher education is that one will no longer be ignorant; developing critical thinking skills allows one to examine the absudities preached by the WT society. Then the only option is to run as fast as possible from the Kingdom Hall and the WT society. They can't afford to loose that many followers. It's a scare tactic and powerful mind washing.
mattiemshaw1 2 years ago
This organization does not pay the 7 million JW around the world to go find the people at their houses&teach them what the bible really teaches, but we do it anyways becaasue we KNOW that this is the truth. We KNOW that we r so close 2 the end of Satan&soon we will be perfect agian&we wont die&we wont age. Jehovah will give us the ability to know EVERYTHING! Why do we need a career on sumthin that we will already know in a bit of time? its useless. GO & HELP PEOLE UNDERSTAND Y WE R DOING THIS!
nelly4894 2 years ago
the reason its like this is because if we were to get a career, lets say to be a doctor, we wont need it in the NEW SYSTEM where we will be perfect. WE DONT NEED RICHES AND MONEY just enough to have a roof on our head and bread on the table. Jehovah will destroy this system of Satan. We do this "career" becasue we love Jehovah and he gives us his Holy Spirit to teach people like YOU about the TRUTH.
nelly4894 2 years ago
There is no New System you gullible goofball. You're throwing your life away for a fairy tale.
utukkuxul 2 years ago 3
ha! thank you very much! because that is exactly what everyone told Jesus when he was preaching the Good News of the New System! thank you very much! that lets me know that i am doing what i have to do. Dont believe me? read the bible!
nelly4894 2 years ago
Please. You JWs always use this "when someone tells me I'm wrong it proves I'm doing what's right" defense. Scientologists and Mormons and even skinheads use the same defense. You're not fooling anyone but yourselves.
utukkuxul 2 years ago
Where? When? I read the NTW about five times straight thru and I don't recall any such scoffers.
RadarKat73080 2 years ago
AND i invite you to read Revelaction 21:4. That scripture is oviously not happing right now so when will it happen? in the NEW SYSTEM. Do you honestly think that God made us just to live 70, 80, mabey 90 years? apsolutly not! just live and then die with no hope at all? no hope to see the love ones you have lost? just work and die? apsolutly not! there is no sense to makeing us for nothing.
nelly4894 2 years ago
I don't care what Revelation says. God didn't make anyone because God is an invisible friend you invented to help you face a world that you're too needy and weak to face alone. God is a voice in your head as you babble to yourself alone in the dark.
utukkuxul 2 years ago
im sorry to say that you are quite wrong. but i will let you be. no need to talk to an ignorant person about the creator that created you. but when that day comes, i know you will think about ME and this conversation. good day to you.
nelly4894 2 years ago
Yeah yeah, I know, I'm wrong because you assert it so without any evidence to support your claims. "When I have no evidence I just call my detractors ignorant and say they're not worth arguing with so I can sink back into my own world of delusional fantasy." Nice to know that you think so much of yourself that you believe that when this mythical day of wrath arrives, it'll be you, a random internet person, I will remember. Shows your ego.
utukkuxul 2 years ago
y should i argue with u if all u r going to do is put down the TRUTH? look, i dont want to be rude or anything like that to you okay? but i will say 1 thing. Give yourself a chance, just one chance, 2 study what we Jehovah Witnesses teach 2 the world, & if u think that all of it is crap, then fine, it is crap 4 u. but once u let you heart touch what your creator has done 4 u, u will understand. abd about the ego thing, its wrong 2 have an ego. thats y u should read the bible :)
nelly4894 2 years ago
I know what you teach. I attended your meetings 3 days a week for 14 years and realized it was all nonsense.
I've read the Bible. Many times. I still read it. I enjoy reading it the same way I enjoy reading The Illiad or Lord of the Rings. It's interesting fiction, once and a while there is a decent moral, but I don't live my life around it or believe that it's inspired by some nonexistent god.
Until evidence is provided that I'm wrong I will continue to believe what I do.
utukkuxul 2 years ago
what made you stop believing in the truth? if you dont mind me asking.
nelly4894 2 years ago
I've made dozens of videos exposing the JWs, as well as videos explaining why I became an atheist. You can choose to watch some of them if you like. I'm not going to re-tell my story nor try to fit it into a 500 character comment.
In short I lost faith in the Bible before I lost faith in your org. So I didn't just leave your org and then later lose faith in the Bible. I stopped believing in the Bible which obviously led me to leaving the WT. It was later that I realized how corrupt the WT was.
utukkuxul 2 years ago
well, im disapointed that a brother like you has left the truth, but you take your desisions, not me or anyone else. i would just like you to know that what you are doing is a mistake, and i encourage you to take anouther chance and come back. the meetings have changed to only 2 times a week :) have a great life and you never know, i might see you in the new system.
nelly4894 2 years ago
Yeah and Muslims say what I'm doing is a mistake, so do Catholics, Mormons, Baptists, Scientologists, Seventh Day Adventists, etc.
I need evidence before I am going to dedicate my life to any religion, and in 24 years of praying I've never received anything. So until God sees fit to actually lead me to the truth - as I prayed to him for MANY YEARS to do - I will just continue as an atheist.
utukkuxul 2 years ago
okay, what if Jehovah God lead me to talk to you, because he knows you has a good heart. wouldn't that be the answer to your prayers? please brother of mine, re-learn and study with us again. i promise you that you wont regret it :)
nelly4894 2 years ago
A Baptist or a Mormon could say the exact same thing. Any of them could just talk to me on the street and say that God might have lead them to talk to me. Heck I have Christians of all denominations say pretty much the same thing to me all the time, especially on YouTube.
I drove by this church and the marquee said "You asked for a sign? This is it." I thought that was quite clever, especially for a church, but I still didn't go in.
If I did become a Christian, I assure you I wouldn't be a JW.
utukkuxul 2 years ago
okay. that is your desision. but i know for a fact that you WILL regret it. even if you say you wont and never will. you will. good day to you.
nelly4894 2 years ago
That's what members of every religion say. You still haven't shown me the slightest shred of evidence to substantiate your claims. All you've done is attempt to scare me. It doesn't scare me when Baptists warn me I'll burn in Hell forever, and it certainly doesn't scare me that your God will make me sleep forever.
utukkuxul 2 years ago
im not here to scare you. im here to warn you that what you are doing is wrong. btw, hell doesnt exsist. how do i know that there will be a new system? read Revelacion 21:4. this scripture is telling us what JEHOVAH GOD will do.
nelly4894 2 years ago
I know Hell doesn't exist. My point is that all religions have some punishment that will occur if you don't believe them.
You say you're not here to scare me, but all you've done is said I'll be sorry, I'll be punished, etc. No evidence to validate your claims, just threats of punishment if I don't comply. That's an attempt to scare, and my point is, your claims don't scare me any more than a mainstream Christian's claims that I will go to Hell.
utukkuxul 2 years ago
(cont) I understand that your belief in the New System is based on your interpretation of scripture. I don't BELIEVE there is any such thing as God, nor do I believe that any book is inspired by this nonexistent God. So it hardly matters to me why you believe in something unless you can show me evidence that your source - in this case, the Bible - is true. I get Christians sending me articles and videos DAILY to "prove" this and none, so far, have been successful.
utukkuxul 2 years ago
okay. well that is that. i'll leave you to your religion full of lies. hopefully i can see you in the new system if you relize that we are the truth. btw, i go my first talk at the meeting today! im so excited!
nelly4894 2 years ago
Atheism isn't a religion, and truth has evidence. You've provided none. Therefore I have no religion full of lies. Speaking of lies, how's the Theocratic War Strategy working for ya?
utukkuxul 2 years ago
okay, if you dont belive the bible as evidence, so look at this world. take a Parrot for instance. You look at the beautiful colors and the fact that they can talk! you can see that they have intelligence. you can see the sence of humor Jehovah has in such beautiful artwork. Take our brain. so complex and what a machine to our beautiful. How did it come to be? its ovious there is a creator.
nelly4894 2 years ago
the fact that earth is at a perfect 23.5 degree tilt. and because of that, we have seasons! dont you love when the flowers start blooming in spring? when the leaves change color in fall?
the fact that we have the ability to laugh :D we dont need to laugh to live! but yet, Jehovah gave it to us so we can enjoy life! he didnt need to give us taste to live, but he did so we can enjoy a good strawberry. dont you think there is an intelligent creature that gave us this? of course there is!
nelly4894 2 years ago
I can't address your first point because I'm unaware of its relevance. Yes, the earth is tilted and we have seasons. I'm not sure how this is evidence of an intelligent creator.
The ability to laugh is found in other primates which predated mankind including bonobos. It's an ability that evolved to help regulate social interactions.
Taste is necessary as it can help prevent you from eating spoiled, rotten, and otherwise dangerous foods. (cont)
utukkuxul 2 years ago
Early humans who could not taste were more likely to die since they would eat things that were spoiled and deadly. They died and did not pass on their genes, while those who could taste survived long enough to pass on their genetic material.
Do you know why color blindness is increasingly common? Same reason. At one time, being colorblind was deadly dangerous. Colorblind humans died off and those who could see in colors passed on their genes. (cont)
utukkuxul 2 years ago
Now, with our ability to refrigerate, freeze, and in other ways preserve foods, and the fact that most of us do not need to be able to easily differentiate between venomous and non-venomous snakes, poisonous plants, etc, those who cannot see in color pass on their genes much more often.
While seeing in color is wonderful, it is no longer necessary for survival, and we are losing it. It was not a gift from some creator god.
utukkuxul 2 years ago
wow, you are so not hummbel enough to understand.
okay, in many cases taste is nessesary. but just think for a second. we DONT need it to live. if we already know what to eat and what not to eat, we wouldnt have the problem of killing ourselves.
color to see in so not nessesary! we can live being blind! but why do we have it? your probably going to give some stupid scientific evidence saying why we need it ot go "we got it". but no, we have it to enjoy life.
nelly4894 2 years ago
I already explained the evolutionary origins of taste and seeing in color. And LOL at me giving "stupid scientific evidence." If you think actual scientific evidence of why things are the way they are is stupid then I'm just wasting my time here. It doesn't matter what I say because you think science and evidence is stupid to begin with.
utukkuxul 2 years ago
what about our universe? all those billions of stars that we see every night. most of them arent even stars! they are other galaxies! the beautiful colors of the universe! that couldnt just pop up due to nothing.
nelly4894 2 years ago
Why should I bother to explain this to you when you think science is stupid?
The universe was created when Mandrake the Magician pulled it out of his magical hat. Happy?
utukkuxul 2 years ago
i dont think it is completly stupid. but so much that scientist have discovered was written in the bible 2000 years before they discovered it! for example the tilt of the earth (isaias 40:22). how bacteria excist (somewhere in Exudus. doesnt come to mind right now). and so much more! humanity could have bractecly already known this if they just sat their stupid butts in a chair and read the bible.
nelly4894 2 years ago
That scripture doesn't say the earth is at a tilt. I think you're confusing some other scripture with this one, which Christians use to claim the Bible predicted the world was round. That's not true; the word used is the Hebrew word for circle, which is flat, not the Hebrew word for sphere.
So you have yet to show me something the Bible predicts that scientists learned later.
utukkuxul 2 years ago
oops. ya i did mean the shape of earth. but either way, it still says that the earth was round.
nelly4894 2 years ago
Yes... round and flat. So?
utukkuxul 2 years ago
you have to remember that vocabulary changes many times every year. and the bible was written in Hebrew, Aramic, and Greek. The most probable idea is that back then this meant as a sphere. it doesnt take an Instein to figure that out.
nelly4894 2 years ago
Sorry, they had a word for "sphere." They used the word for a round, flat surface.Probably how Jesus could see the entire earth from the top of a tall mountain.
Not a single person ever claimed that "the most probable idea is that it meant sphere" until we discovered the earth was a sphere, then suddenly the word meant something else so that the Bible could have some amazing "proof."
Sorry, changing the meaning of words isn't convincing. It doesn't take an "Instein" to figure that out.
utukkuxul 2 years ago
look you idiot. im fricken tired of being nice to your ignorant face. YOU made a mistake even though you say you dont. I KNOW YOU DID! there is apsolutly nothing about Jehovah that you can prove wrong. NOTHING! so if you want to be efin retarted about it, go ahead. i tired og helping you save your life when Armegedon comes. But you will relize that you are wrong one way or another.
nelly4894 2 years ago
ahahahahaha and when the JW can't prove his side he descends into namecalling and ad hominem attacks. Ahahahahaha. I knew you couldn't follow Jesus' commandments very long before you flipped out and starting insulting me.
Sorry that all your evidence turned out to be totally unprovable bullshit and you can't back up your assertion that I'm wrong about the meaning of that word, and it makes you mad. lol this is going into my next "lovingkindness from JWs" video for sure!
utukkuxul 2 years ago
lmao I can't stop laughing at this.
HOW DARE YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THE HEBREW WORD FOR CIRCLE IS AND WHAT IT MEANS AND PROVE IT DOESN'T MEANT SPHERE! YOU IDIOT! I KNOW JESUS SAID TO BLESS THOSE WHO CURSE ME AND LOVE THOSE WHO HATE ME AND DO KIND FOR THOSE WHO PERSECUTE ME BUT YOU ARE EFIN RETARDED FOR NOT BELIEVING MY EASILY REFUTED EVIDENCE! SCIENCE IS DUMB! GOD WILL MURDER YOU YOU RETARDED IDIOT!
hahaha man you guys are such good Witnesses for Jehovah!
utukkuxul 2 years ago
ya like you would know what a real witness is. you betrayed the truth. and i didnt say thatr i understoof the hebrew meaning! i said probably it meant. did i say IT MEANS??????? and do you eben know why the heck my evidence isnt the best!? BECAUSE IM STILL LEARNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who do you think i am? but i know enough to defend what i belive and to belive that it is THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
nelly4894 2 years ago
"ya like you would know what a real witness is."
I just gave you Bible scriptures with Jesus' quotes about how to treat others. Sorry that you disagree with Jesus.
"you betrayed the truth."
Nope, just realized what you call "truth" is a pack of lies made by 12 old men in New York who want fancy cars.
utukkuxul 2 years ago
"and i didnt say thatr i understoof the hebrew meaning!"
Ah, here comes the Theocratic War Strategy! I never said you understood the Hebrew meaning. I said you DIDN'T understand it. And you got terribly butthurt and began namecalling because I proved you didn't know what you were talking about.
utukkuxul 2 years ago
"i said probably it meant."
So... your idea of evidence is telling me what a word in a language you know nothing about "probably" means in your opinion? It's okay that you don't know and haven't research that word or that language a bit, your evidence is fantastic because you know what you think in your opinion it "probably" means! I shit my pants in awe of your awesome evidence.
utukkuxul 2 years ago
"did i say IT MEANS???????"
If you don't know if it really means that, then you shouldn't be holding it up as evidence to support your side. I'd love to see a real debate where someone's entire argument is founded upon "probably" and "maybe" and "I don't know because I haven't studied or researched but I think probably," followed up by a liberal amount of namecalling.
utukkuxul 2 years ago
"BECAUSE IM STILL LEARNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Oh you're still learning? Awesome, so who are you to keep telling me I'm wrong every time I discredit your phony "evidence?"
"Who do you think i am?"
An easily-angered, gullible dupe who presents easily refuted evidence and then screams and yells and throws a fit like a little child when you're proven wrong.
utukkuxul 2 years ago
"but i know enough to defend what i belive and to belive that it is THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Unfortunately, you don't know enough to defend what you believe. I proved that here today. But use a million exclamation points and namecall some more, surely that will prove your side.
utukkuxul 2 years ago
i dont know it all by heart, forgive me on that, but i know for a fact that this is the truth. because i have studied it more than anything i have ever studied before, because i have proven why this is this and why this is that. because everything i have learned makes sence in life and makes goes together like a perfect puzzle that goes together. everything is so beautiful and humbel. and our creator truely does love us. even though you are ignorant towards your creator.
nelly4894 2 years ago
"because i have proven why this is this and why this is that."
You haven't proven jack shit. Show me again where you provided the smallest shred of credible evidence of anything.
utukkuxul 2 years ago
im not a child. i am just trying to get through your rock-liked head and rock-licked heart.
nelly4894 2 years ago
"im not a child. i am just trying to get through your rock-liked head and rock-licked heart."
Christ you're a retard. So if someone asks for evidence to support a claim, it makes their head "rocklike?" OMG SOMEONE WANTS PROOF BEFORE THEY BELIEVE STUFF, THAT MAKES THEM AN IDIOT AND A ROCKHEAD!!!!
All you've managed to do is make a bunch of easily debunkable, idiotic claims that I have shredded apart with ease.
No wonder the world hates JWs. You're a bunch of fucking assholes.
utukkuxul 2 years ago
what part of, im still learning dont you understand? do you expect me to know everything by heart? no bedcasue we are not perfect. but like i said, i know enough and well enough to know that it is the truth.
nelly4894 2 years ago
"i know enough and well enough to know that it is the truth. "
Even though you don't have the slightest shred of evidence to substantiate a single claim you've made. It's okay, I understand.
utukkuxul 2 years ago
i dont know the things by heart! but i do know enough.
nelly4894 2 years ago
You don't know shit.
utukkuxul 2 years ago
if i knew the things by heart this second, i could probably garentee i know more than you.
nelly4894 2 years ago
Yeah sure. Keep making assertions without backing any of them up.
utukkuxul 2 years ago
heart baby heart. that what counts.
nelly4894 2 years ago
Yeah I know. Keep telling yourself that. Maybe your nonexistent god who lives in another dimension will look deep into that organ in your chest that pumps blood through your body and forgive you for ignoring his son's commands.
utukkuxul 2 years ago
with honesty to a regret, yes He will im positive to that. just wait and see. it will come. i put my life on that.
nelly4894 2 years ago
Yeah sure it will. I'm so scared.
As for being humble, you've shown no signs of being humble whatsoever. "Humbel to say it?" To say what? That you're wrong? Once again, I do admit when I'm wrong, but I haven't said anything so far here that has been wrong. You have.
utukkuxul 2 years ago
you have/. that youre hard headed.
nelly4894 2 years ago
So it's hard-headed to not believe something without evidence huh? What magical wor'd of retard do you live in where people are supposed to believe everything they hear without any evidence?
utukkuxul 2 years ago
you have supposivly studies eberything right smart one? youre hard headed for not being humbel enough to belive it. its as simple as that. now, go and find yourself a life and stop ruining other peoples. next time, keep your big irritating mouth shut bcuz no one wants to here.
nelly4894 2 years ago
Never said I studied everything. Once again you're lying, oops, I mean using Theocratic War Strategy.
"youre hard headed for not being humbel enough to belive it."
You haven't provided any evidence to make me believe it. Once again, it's a moron who believes things without evidence.
"now, go and find yourself a life and stop ruining other peoples. "
Aw are my words on YouTube RUINING YOUR LIFE? Gonna cry?
utukkuxul 2 years ago
YES YOU DID! you said that ou were a JW for llike 14 years! whats a hipacrit.
nelly4894 2 years ago
I was a JW for 14 years. Where did I say I wasn't? I said I haven't STUDIED EVERYTHING. I assumed you meant I've studied everything on earth, in a lame attempt at sarcastically claiming I know everything, which is what you implied.
If you don't want to debate with atheists and people who dislike JWs, then run along back to your pro-cult videos. I don't bother you idiots on your boring videos, don't bother me on mine. Nobody put a gun to your head and forced you here.
utukkuxul 2 years ago
once again....idiot.
nelly4894 2 years ago
hahahaha, keep proving what a good Christian you are. All your evidence was bullshit and I showed you up once again, so now all you can do is call me an idiot.
Get the fuck off these anti-JW videos and run back to your cult, little bitch.
utukkuxul 2 years ago
well you dont beleive in the bible. i tryed to give you nature evidence. character evidence. and you were still hard headed. i know what i am doing.
nelly4894 2 years ago
I disproved all your "evidence." Sorry that you think people are supposed to believe whatever you say.
You know what's sad? Non JW Christians are rarely as rude and nasty as you've been to me. For example, Middleman777 is a Christian whom I actually like. I've seen people insult him, and he never says an unkind word. He's actually made me THINK about what he's saying and made me receptive.
But you JWs do nothing but act like assholes and turn people off from ever listening.
utukkuxul 2 years ago
whatever ignorant asshole. i have nothing to say to you anymore because you are a hard headed DB. get a life instead of getting fat in front of the tv. you'll see later.
nelly4894 2 years ago
I haven't watched TV in nearly two years you stupid fucking cunt.
Thanks for all the rude quotes, they'll go great into my next video of vulgar JW quotes! Hope you enjoy!
PS sorry your evidence was all proven to be horseshit, pray to you fake fucking God and maybe he'll rub your ass and make you feel better.
utukkuxul 2 years ago
it wasnt. you just wernt humbel to think about it for a sec.
and if you dont belive in Gid, why the heck do you have "god listens" on you icon?
nelly4894 2 years ago
I did think about it, and I proved why they were all horseshit. Each and every one I explained away. Why don't you go enjoy your supposed "vacation" and stop arguing on apostate videos if you're such a pussy you can't handle it?
My icon actually says "God listens TO SLAYER" but you're fucking illiterate.
Your quotes will be on a video on my channel in the next hour or so. Enjoy!
utukkuxul 2 years ago
Judgement day is coming VERY SOON... and all non-believers in the tribal war god jehovah and his imperfect man-made book called the holy bible will be exterminated.
HateCrimes322 2 years ago
Do you nelly? Have you investigated, both by studying theology and proving God scientifically? You might say, like our good buddy Shawn; aka VFX/PCS, "You can't prove God scientifically because he is outside our universe." If so, he still interacts with our universe, thus he would have to leave some sign of his presence. Example: UV light cannot be perceived by our senses, but we know it exists based on its effects, like sunburns and cancer.
RadarKat73080 2 years ago
wait, im kinda confused. is this a "i belive in God" staement, or is it a "God doesnt exist" statement?
nelly4894 2 years ago
God doesn't exist because I find no evidence for his existance.
I'm not surprised you didn't understand, you belong in a museum, a classic example of "useful idiot."
RadarKat73080 2 years ago
wow, okay whatever. l dont want to start an argument because i know for a fact Jehovah God does exist. and his day will be shown very very soon. you cant even imagine. its not that i have evidence because i do, its that i dont want to argue and try to make an ignorant person undeerstand the beauty of their creator. so good day to you sir.
nelly4894 2 years ago
You don't wanna start an argument??? What kind of Witness are you? Jehovah does exist, even though you have no proof, his day is coming, like it has been for nearly 150 and even the Bible; written almost 2,000 years ago says "behold I come quickly."
RadarKat73080 2 years ago
bcuz people only want to fight and stand up for their "theres no crator" argument when we can see it all around us. take ourselves for example. we dont need sight to live. blind people llive without it. but we have it bcuz Jehovah gave it to us to enjoy life! if their wasnt illnesses (which was Jehovahs intention to not have) we wouldnt need the ability to feel. but we have it so we can enjoy the sun in the su,mmer. or the soft grass when we lay down.
nelly4894 2 years ago
I'll have to tell my blind friend LeeAnn what you said. Maybe the hardship she's suffered for being sightless won't seem so bad. Isn't enjoyment subjective? I looove tomatos! My ex-wife hates them. If Jehovah never intend for us to get sick, why do we have an immune system at all? Yeah, I really enjoy those 105 degree days in summer! And mowing all summer long for peanuts!
RadarKat73080 2 years ago
is that sarcasim?
your friend has the hope to see again. (isaiah 35:5)
nelly4894 2 years ago
No, but it is "sarcasm." I'm not sure she's ever seen. How can you trust the vague promises of men written in a book thousands of years ago?
RadarKat73080 2 years ago
bcuz with Jehovahs Holy Spirit, they were able to write it. remember that the imperfect men were the ones that wrote it on paperm, but ever word is inspired by God (2 Timothy 3:16, 17)
nelly4894 2 years ago
Well, every word I write is inspired by the Great Green Arkleseizure! Who is Lord over all because he sneezed it into existance! We await the coming of the Great White Handkerchief!
RadarKat73080 2 years ago
YOU can keep on thinking whatever you want. I know the truth and im not ignorant about it. We do not discourage education, we just pput Jehovah God first in our hearts.
nelly4894 2 years ago
I wish I had kept the note, yes; in-laws used to write me notes!, that my mother-in-law wrote to me when I suggested that I further my education, as to better support her daughter! She tore into me!
You "know the truth" but you have no evidence. I am glad you aren't a police officer, or a doctor, or a scientist.
RadarKat73080 2 years ago
evidence : bible. more evidence : creation. everything in this world is evidence.
nelly4894 2 years ago
Yeah! Imagine people wanting "proof"! They should just accept what a bunch of guys in suits say, because they claim to have "special knowledge" that we lack.
The nerve of some people!
RadarKat73080 2 years ago
its not the fact that we wear "suits" or anything else. its the fact that we actually know what we are saying and know how to defend what people say.
nelly4894 2 years ago
You wear a suit?? I thought you were a girl? And no, it's not the suit per se, it's worn like a uniform. Like someone putting on a lab coat, you assume he's a doctor or a scientist. Unlike medical or scientific fact, "spiritual truth" cannot be tested, measured and thus not proven! Constantly I was told how this was a "spiritual paradise" how Jehovah's people were "happy", when I was miserable most of the time. The elders told me to pray, in a left handed way, told me it was my fault.
RadarKat73080 2 years ago
i dont wear a suit duh ! and its not worn like a uniform that we dont want to wear all the time. its something we decide to because we, as humans, represent Jehovah in everything we do. besides, many of the things that scientist have found out in the last..100, 200 years, we already told in the bible 2000 years ago.
nelly4894 2 years ago
Wow yeah, that scripture about electricity is cool, isn't it? Or evolvation? Or physics? "The Bible teachs about science" my aunt fanny!
RadarKat73080 2 years ago
and the fact that you were miserable is not my, or any of the witnesses fault. it was yours because you did not find the confort in it. you did not find the balance and the beauty it takes to be a witness. frankly, it was not us or jehovah.
nelly4894 2 years ago
Thank you for being 100% predictable. I expected no less. Why don't you use that vast knowledge you somehow have aquired about me without even knowing me and tell me what I should have done?
RadarKat73080 2 years ago
whatever. i have nothing to prove to a hard headed person. so good day to you.
nelly4894 2 years ago
"next time, keep your big irritating mouth shut bcuz no one wants to here. "
Fuck you bitch. This is an anti-JW video made by an atheist. He's also my friend. If you don't like what I say, go to your bullshit Jehovah dicksucking videos and stay the fuck off of these. I don't give a fuck if you're irritated. Go fuck your mother.
utukkuxul 2 years ago
ya bcuz thats all you can say. it doesnt hurt. trust me. i know that what i am doing is right.
nelly4894 2 years ago
you are an idiot. i said i was still learning and you said who am i to tell you youre wrong? im learning it, understand it, proving it, and preaching it. you oviously are an idiot. yes i kknow i am treating my enemie (you) with disrespect and i will apoligies to GOD later but ignorant people like you get on my last nerves, and that is still something that i must work on because iim HUMBEL enough to addmitt that i am wrong on that, unlike you.
nelly4894 2 years ago
LOL more ad hominem attacks! Yay more namecalling for Jesus!
"im learning it, understand it, proving it, and preaching it."
You haven't proved jack shit. Where is this proof? Oh yeah, a word you think probably means something it doesn't.
"you oviously are an idiot."
Yeah you sure are showing me.
"ignorant people like you get on my last nerves"
LMAO yeah it's so ignorant how I take all your pathetic evidences and totally debunk them! Do you even know what "ignorant" means?
utukkuxul 2 years ago
p.s. and you oviously dont have a life sence you are always online. and if you try to tell me the same thing, you cant. im on vacation.
nelly4894 2 years ago
yay another ad hominem attack. That sure proves your side.
utukkuxul 2 years ago
not attacks. just stands.
nelly4894 2 years ago
Attention dumbfuck: saying someone has no life, calling them an idiot, etc is an attack. Sorry that on planet stupid fuck where you live you don't know that. Then again, you don't even know that "ignorant" means "lacking knowledge" which also means that since you admitted to not knowing a lot about this stuff("I'm still studying") then you're the very thing you accused me of being without even being smart enough to realize it.
utukkuxul 2 years ago
atleased im humbel to say it unlike youu.
nelly4894 2 years ago
Your English is a nightmare! So you will excuse me if I don't trust your assessment of other languages. How do you know what the original texts say? Did you bother learning Hebrew, Greek and Aramic? Or are you just vomiting back what the WTS has told you?
RadarKat73080 2 years ago
I should also mention the ancient Egyptians had a rudimentary understanding of the existence of bacteria but I don't believe in Ra or Horus.
utukkuxul 2 years ago
Flipping burgers and sacking groceries won't do even that! I know, I've tried.
RadarKat73080 2 years ago
I find the YPA book THE funniest book to come out of the WT where the GB, who may have had kids......ages ago, aren't in the loop and NONE of the Bethelites can have kids! lol!
poconoporker 2 years ago
1:00 wow, that's a badass Mercedes!!!
DblOSmith 2 years ago
Besides SmokingNtheGraveyard this was not about wethever or not my religion is right. It is about if its a smart thing to do extra education if it is right. There is no need to work alot all day when you can go and preach.
Besides high education aint a gurantee. YOu might end up on MC donalds after ... like 6 yars of education after college so you might as well skip 6 years take an easy job and dedicate you're life to what you believ the most in.
dubbeltid 2 years ago
That has got to be the most ignorant comment I've ever read anywhere., If a college Grad is working in McDonalds he's in management, and making what managers make anywhere... you are a loser following the men you follow, get a life, go to college and quit making stupid comments.
georgiahuff 2 years ago
Ignorant `? It is based on fact. Lots of people who do like 6 years of hard extra education end up on MC donalds lol
dubbeltid 2 years ago
Cool, then give me the link that proves your "facts". I'll be waiting....
You ignorant JW, you are the laughingstock of the world. Go back to misspelling words you ignorant fool.
georgiahuff 2 years ago
=) I got it from watchtower... But they are a valid source since they take all their statics from other very reliable sources.
Im not ignorant. I am aware of everything agaisnt my faith. But i still make the logical conclusion that my religion is right
dubbeltid 2 years ago
You got it from the WT and that's reliable? You are the stupidest person I've ever talked to. If they get their stats from any sources then you'd be able to find them on the net. You complete bumbling fool, you are the kind that needs an education the most.. god you are a loser!
georgiahuff 2 years ago
the jw are very reliable. They actually check the facts they get several times over.
I am atm studying advanced maths. And i have got some really high ggrades.
You are ignorant to deny that Wt is reliable. atleast when it comes to statistics they are 99 percent reliable. IF they are wrong it is cause their sources were wrong =D
dubbeltid 2 years ago
When they are wrong it's because they twisted the facts, the JWs are a joke to humanity and you're a loser, now go away and screw yourself.
georgiahuff 2 years ago
It is foolish to want to be a doctor or a lawyer. - Watchtower 1st August 1975
WtGoverningBody 2 years ago
Priceless quotes... thanks...
georgiahuff 2 years ago
No problem, I love spreading the Truth!
That it[Studies in the Scriptures, Vol VII] contains some mistakes is freely admitted. Even the Bible contains some. - The Watchtower, April 1, 1920, p. 103
As every one knows, there are mistakes in the Bible and there has never been a book written yet that is perfect that has been written by any human hand. - The Watchtower, April 15, 1928
WtGoverningBody 2 years ago
Are you telling me the word of God, the unquestionable book contains mistakes, doesn't that debunk all religions? This is hysterical. The whole basis around why the bible is proven to be the inspired word of God is that it has no mistakes. Look at your own publications on the subject. SOOOOO Funny. Best laugh I had in ages. If it has mistakes, then how can you know you are so right about everything? You can't, NO ONE KNOWS. This is the point.
mattiemshaw1 2 years ago
Grammatical mistakes, spelling mistakes, writing a character wrong, etc are all mistakes that do not affect the divinely inspired nature of the Bible, retard.
WtGoverningBody 2 years ago
How Christion you are. You prove all the anti-JW remarks. Good job. You did not state grammatical, spelling, or writing a character wrong. Your defense was so lame and when your called on it, you resort to "retard". Good for a 58 year-old. Your intelligent oozes from the screen. You're still making me laugh.
mattiemshaw1 2 years ago
Oh I forgot, people have to state every distinct possibility or else it implies whatever you want it to. Dumbass.
WtGoverningBody 2 years ago
You go for the bait everytime! By the way I'm not a boy. I bet that stings even worse. Keep on with your profanity. Please do keep showing love as Jesus would. Your such a good man; cussing an annonymous woman because she finds you humorous, and she's not in fear of the Governing Body member.
mattiemshaw1 2 years ago
I like how you replied to me, then I replied to you, and this means I "went for the bait." Truly you have outsmarted me, what with how you comment and I reply. Ooch! Eech! Ouch! You sure showed me!
WtGoverningBody 2 years ago
When you can't come with a decent response, resort to profanity.
mattiemshaw1 2 years ago
Remember when you said you wouldn't PM me anymore then sent me 2 more? That makes 10 today.
Oh but I replied to some of them, that means I "took the bait." Ha ha, you sure got me good, tricking me into replying to 20% of your PMs that took you 10x longer than me to write! You are truly a mastermind of internet ownage!
WtGoverningBody 2 years ago
Do you have a problem with private messages? Do you think I have a thing for you when I PM you? PM's are quicker because I respond straight from my e-mail when they pop up. You're so brilliant. It's because your "Governing Body".
mattiemshaw1 2 years ago
Or maybe you lied when you said you wouldn't send any more and I was pointing it out. Not to mention you're so stupid you can't fit your thoughts in one message and have to send 4 at a fucking time.
WtGoverningBody 2 years ago
By far the lowest IQ I've run across. I'm responding to each individual comment. So when someone looks back at it in a day or two, it all flows.
mattiemshaw1 2 years ago
By the way, I've posted a link to your YouTube site on 7 different anti-JW sites this morning, so all can see your absurdity.
mattiemshaw1 2 years ago
Aw are you butthurt because I showed you that your definition of faggot was wrong? Also, your 10 PMs weren't responding to "each individual comment" retard. Hopefully your anti-JW buddies that you have to call in for backup in your weakness will see how you contradict yourself. "LOL you have to have the last word which is why I reply to everything you say!"
WtGoverningBody 2 years ago
Many have wondered how accidents would be avoided during Christ's kingdom, since we are told that nothing shall then hurt or destroy. Most accidents are due to gravitation and its effects. Falling from airplanes.. may be avoided by an individual negative gravity device. The people of the future may carry a little of this energy around with them, and if they fall down an elevator shaft they can let themselves down easy. - Golden Age, 24th March 1926
WtGoverningBody 2 years ago
IF they fall down from the mountain soem angel can save them easily.....
Of course gravity will still be
dubbeltid 2 years ago
Hey, I saw a watchtower magazine with a picture of a a boy in paradise earth holding a plastic bucket and spade. You say that there will be no pollution in the Paradise earth? Well then explain to me this; How did the boy get the plastic bucket and spade. To make it, oil would need to be found. This would involve heavy machinery made of metals that can only be found via mining/ smelting, all of which creates pollution and involves MORE heavy apparatus that also needs to be made.
pineapplecoffeee 2 years ago
You're attempting to debunk our beliefs based on a photograph on the cover of a magazine? Eat shit.
WtGoverningBody 2 years ago
Yeah. But not just a bucket and spade. EVERYTHING. How are you going to make anything we have now? Or are you just going to go back to living like you're in the stone age? And there's no need to get rude about it - I'm asking you a question NOT in an attempt to debunk your belief but because I'm genuinely interested.
pineapplecoffeee 2 years ago
Why couldn't we live like in the stone age? The earth will be returned to paradise conditions and we will have perfect bodies, what else do you need?
WtGoverningBody 2 years ago
That is a nice thought, completely without merit, but a nice thought non-the-less.
Mattrix0 2 years ago
What's without merit about it shithead?
WtGoverningBody 2 years ago
There you go showing your intelligence again and JW "Christianity" again. Keep it up. You're better at disgracing your religion than we are.
mattiemshaw1 2 years ago