The question we should be asking is why the master bedroom phone had been moved to the kitchen - (leaving no phone in the master bedroom where jane and shelia were found dead ) - and why the kitchen phone which worked fine had been disconnected and hidden under a bunch of magazines. It was the ivory bedroom phone which was found off the cradle and the line left open. if the kitchen phone was working why was it hidden. I think in this conundrum the truth probably lay - one way or another.
Tesco's you have wasted 23 years of your sad pathetic life trying to free a psychcopathic, arrogant cunt called Bamber. All those wasted years for you while Bamber The Beast rots away on his whole life sentence. That's almost funny you weirdo!
BAMBER IS AS GUILTY AS SIN .... YOU'RE A SAD WEIRDO TESCO'S .... YOUR WHOLE EXISTANCE IS DEDICAATED TO THIS BEAST AND HE STILL FAILS ALL HIS APPEALS HA HA HA HA
I was contracted by the police to secure the house after this happened, so I followed the case very closely. I only saw blood stains in one place in the kitchen. But the thing that clinched it for me was that Bamber said his father phoned him and said his sister had gone mad with a gun, then the phone handset was dropped without going back on the receiver. Bamber would not have been able to use his phone again to call the police, as in those days the caller cancelled the call.
WHO KILLED BAMBI? QUITE SIMPLE TO ANSWER: JEREMY BAMBER KILLED ALL HIS FAMILY FOR THE MONEY AND WHEN HE RAN OUT OF SPENDING THE READY CASH ON HOLIDAYS AND PARTYING HE TRIED TO SELL HARDCORE PRIVATE PORN PHOTOS OF HIS MURDERED SISTER TO THE SUN. BAMBER IS A CREEPY MURDERING SHITBAG WHO WILL NEVER BE RELEASED!
jeremy pretending to cry at the funeral neville told his secretary jeremy would kill him he was scared of jeremy david boutflour jeremys cousin finding the silencer and sheila wouldnt do this its so obvious it was jeremy he will never admit it
there is something not right about jeremy sheila could not batter neville with a gun as well as shoot him then drag him downstairs nevilles injuries show it would take a man to do this jeremy is evil beyond belief just like the judge said
@leedumett444 sheer speculation. No solid evidence or forensic evidence connects Jeremy to the crime. none whatsoever. Just the word of a spurned girlfriend who lied and then changed her story. She wasn't even charges for obstuction of justice. The judge himself said to the jury you either believe Julie Mugford or Jeremy Bamber. 10 out of 12 jurers chose to believe Julie Mugford. A gross miscarriage of justice. All evidence was circumstantial.
@leedumett444 why then was this evidence omitted the trial? why do such a thing anyway? surely he could have just gone to bed and pretended to know nothing?
If Ralph Bamber called the police at 3:26am, and told them that his daughter, Sheila, had got one of his guns, "Daughter gone Berserk", How could Jeremy have murdered anyone at the farmhouse that evening?
Is it possible that both calls to the police were made by Jeremy from one location, i.e. in the first call he pretends to be his dad, and in the second he gives his own name, or can we rule that out. I'm open minded and curious
Jeremy could not and did not move the rifle from the bedroom window after 7:15am, and he did not place it on top of his sisters body in the bedroom, at any stage after 7:15am - Essex police had this evidence by the time of Jeremy's trial in October 19856, yet they refused to acknowledge its existence, or to disclose it...
What a wicked evil thing to do...
A man has spent the best part of 25 years in jail for something he could not have done, and the police had evidence to prove he didn't do it
@deanoman1000 a lot of other people have met him and have come to an entirely different opinion. have you met his ex girlfriend as well? If she knew all those things she said he'd told her before the funeral then she was a better actor than Jeremy was supposed to be. Surely an indication that she made it all up?
The police withheld the very evidence which would help to prove and establish that there must have been someone still very much alive inside the farmhouse, because that rifle was moved from the window at some stage after 7:15am, and ended up on top of Sheila's body...
How did the rifle move from the bedroom window after 7:15am, and end up on top of Sheila's body, by the time the police supposedly found her body in the bedroom?
the case was originally treated as being "four murders and a suicide", the case at that stage, included a witness statement from a WPC Julia Jeapes, a trained firearms instructor with Essex police, who stated in that statement that she could see a rifle leaning up against the bedroom window...
Then, the nature of the investigation changed, into" five murders"...
What did the police do, they withheld WPC Julia Jeapes witness statement, and they kept it secret...
In my view, there appears to be evidence that someone has tried to wipe the vertically running blood from the lower wound, to prevent anyone from being able to find out that Sheila was or may have been stood upright after she received the initial shot to the side of the neck. This appears to have been done, before PC Bird started to take his crime scene photographs, at 10 O'clock that morning...
This evidence of vertically running blood from the lower wound, is consistent with Sheila having regained consciousness after she was originally wounded downstairs, and that she fled upstairs to the bedroom, where she received the second shot under the chin which effectively killed her...
If you look closely enough, there is evidence that blood from the lower wound, ran vertically, rather than horizontally from the wound, giving a good indication that Sheila was stood upright at some stage after she received the initial shot to the side of the throat (the lower wound). This feature is not duplicated in respect of the upper wound, and suggests that she was laid down, or that she fell down immediately onto the bedroom floor, after she received the second shot...
There were, therefore, two silencers in the equation, one which had the original identifying mark of SBJ/1, which was subsequently altered into DRB/1, and the other silencer which David Boutflour found in the gun cupboard, on 10 August 1985, bearing the identifying mark of DB/1...
Essex police handed silencer (SBJ/1) back to family, and it was later handed back to the police by Ann Eaton, on 11 September 1985, and retained by Essex police, until 26 September 1985, at which stage it was submitted to the Lab' under the altered identifying mark of DRB/1...
First silencer in police possession had identifying mark of SBJ/1 - believed to have been found at the scene by DS "Stan" Jones, on the morning of 7 August 1985...
Second silencer, bearing identifying mark, DB/1, was found in gun cupboard by David Boutflour, and taken to the home of Ann and Peter Eaton for storage until the evening of 12 August 1985, when DS Jones collected it from Peter Eaton. This silencer was not sent to the Lab' until 30 August 1985...
Police were aware that Sheila had been shot downstairs with a gun that had a silencer fitted, and that the second wound upstairs, was inflicted by a different gun, which did not have a silencer fitted to its barrel - the pathologist removed two bullets from Sheila's body, one of which was a fragmented bullet (PV./20) which by 20 September 1985, had become transformed into a whole bullet, that enabled the ballistic expert to match both bullets to the gun on the body...
The blood flow is the same from both wounds and so she could not have been standing when recieving the first shot. The 2 bullet wounds strongly suggest that one is fired with a silencer attached, and one without. this raises the the question,Could sheila have shot herself twice? Answer,No. I feel that bamber is responsible for the killings.
@TheHughes56 she could not have been able to reach the trigger with the silencer attached. The woulds do not show that and in any case this in itself does not connect Jeremy to the crime.in fact there is absolutely no proof that a silencer was used at all. Blood on the silencer was not found on first examination. Then much later it was examined again and hey presto blood miraculously appears. Strange how this silencer and other "evidence" was not found by the police, but by the relatives.
There is to much doubt with this case, and once everyone knows all the evidence that is available they will come to realise that something does not add up, and this man should be released from prison. There needs to be an investigation that is not influenced by this mans family. The familys actions around the time of the investigation was very suspicious, Free this man and give us faith in the criminal justice system.
Bloodied fingermarks can be seen around the upper entry wound site, and fresh looking blood has run out over the top of these - the police claim that Sheila Caffells hands and fingers were spotlessly clean and blood free, so who made these bloodied fingermarks, and why was somebody, anybody, interested in trying to prevent blood from leaking out of the wound ?
Once the heart stops beating, blood is no longer being pumped around the body, and within a relatively short period of time, around 15 minutes, or so, no more oxygen exists in the blood inside the body, and the blood starts to degenerate and breakdown - Yet, as this crime scene photograph shows, the blood which is running and leaking and pouring from these two wounds upon Sheila's neck, is still relatively fresh looking and bright red in colour?
If Sheila had been killed by Bamber, prior to 3am, in the bedroom, as alleged, blood would not still be leaking, and running, and pouring from the two wounds upon her neck and the corners of her mouth, at 10 O'clock that morning - it would have coagulated and dried long before then...
It was an accepted fact, during Bambers trial, in October 1986, that if Bamber killed the five victims, including Sheila, that he would have had to have done so, before 3am, that morning...
The question we should be asking is why the master bedroom phone had been moved to the kitchen - (leaving no phone in the master bedroom where jane and shelia were found dead ) - and why the kitchen phone which worked fine had been disconnected and hidden under a bunch of magazines. It was the ivory bedroom phone which was found off the cradle and the line left open. if the kitchen phone was working why was it hidden. I think in this conundrum the truth probably lay - one way or another.
jaredneedsalife 4 months ago
Tesco's you have wasted 23 years of your sad pathetic life trying to free a psychcopathic, arrogant cunt called Bamber. All those wasted years for you while Bamber The Beast rots away on his whole life sentence. That's almost funny you weirdo!
ferdiashepherds 5 months ago
BAMBER IS AS GUILTY AS SIN .... YOU'RE A SAD WEIRDO TESCO'S .... YOUR WHOLE EXISTANCE IS DEDICAATED TO THIS BEAST AND HE STILL FAILS ALL HIS APPEALS HA HA HA HA
ROT IN HELL WITH BAMBER
TheEnoughisEnough 6 months ago
Jeremy Bamber is INNOCENT. He was stitched up by the his greedy family members, jilted girlfriend and the police.
sunshinemags 10 months ago
hang the cunt
hardman476 11 months ago
I was contracted by the police to secure the house after this happened, so I followed the case very closely. I only saw blood stains in one place in the kitchen. But the thing that clinched it for me was that Bamber said his father phoned him and said his sister had gone mad with a gun, then the phone handset was dropped without going back on the receiver. Bamber would not have been able to use his phone again to call the police, as in those days the caller cancelled the call.
sac43 11 months ago
@sac43 i wonder if mi
bigboy03able 4 months ago
hes a cold blooded murderer sociopath with ice water running through his veins all sociopaths are conmen and hes a pretty bad 1.
jimpurdie 1 year ago
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andreaukok 1 year ago
JEREMY YOU SAD BASTARD HOW COULD YOU KILL YOUR FAMILY THE PEOPLE THAT ADOPTED YOU TOOK YOU IN AND GAVE YOU EVERYTHING
leedumett444 1 year ago
@leedumett444 tHAT WAS EASY COZ THEY WERE NOT RELATED TO HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
bigboy03able 3 months ago
WHO KILLED BAMBI? QUITE SIMPLE TO ANSWER: JEREMY BAMBER KILLED ALL HIS FAMILY FOR THE MONEY AND WHEN HE RAN OUT OF SPENDING THE READY CASH ON HOLIDAYS AND PARTYING HE TRIED TO SELL HARDCORE PRIVATE PORN PHOTOS OF HIS MURDERED SISTER TO THE SUN. BAMBER IS A CREEPY MURDERING SHITBAG WHO WILL NEVER BE RELEASED!
TheEnoughisEnough 1 year ago
because it wasnt neville bamber it was jeremy pretending to be his dad
leedumett444 1 year ago
jeremy pretending to cry at the funeral neville told his secretary jeremy would kill him he was scared of jeremy david boutflour jeremys cousin finding the silencer and sheila wouldnt do this its so obvious it was jeremy he will never admit it
leedumett444 1 year ago
there is something not right about jeremy sheila could not batter neville with a gun as well as shoot him then drag him downstairs nevilles injuries show it would take a man to do this jeremy is evil beyond belief just like the judge said
leedumett444 1 year ago
bamber is evil of course he did it
leedumett444 1 year ago
jeremy is guilty people wake up the log shows jeremy was pretending to be his father then he rings himself
leedumett444 1 year ago
@leedumett444 sheer speculation. No solid evidence or forensic evidence connects Jeremy to the crime. none whatsoever. Just the word of a spurned girlfriend who lied and then changed her story. She wasn't even charges for obstuction of justice. The judge himself said to the jury you either believe Julie Mugford or Jeremy Bamber. 10 out of 12 jurers chose to believe Julie Mugford. A gross miscarriage of justice. All evidence was circumstantial.
grahame4647 1 year ago
the phone log was jeremy pretending to be neville its obvious then he rang as himself this doesnt prove his innocence
leedumett444 1 year ago
@leedumett444 why then was this evidence omitted the trial? why do such a thing anyway? surely he could have just gone to bed and pretended to know nothing?
grahame4647 1 year ago
I do not think jeremy murdered anyone
bootlehistory 1 year ago
bamber guilty
leedumett444 1 year ago 2
@leedumett444 After today's evidence ( 5th Aug,2010) are you sure? Lost Police phone logs discovered!
arizonabay15 1 year ago
If Ralph Bamber called the police at 3:26am, and told them that his daughter, Sheila, had got one of his guns, "Daughter gone Berserk", How could Jeremy have murdered anyone at the farmhouse that evening?
miketesko 1 year ago 2
@miketesko
Is it possible that both calls to the police were made by Jeremy from one location, i.e. in the first call he pretends to be his dad, and in the second he gives his own name, or can we rule that out. I'm open minded and curious
horse69outside 11 months ago
The withholding of this crucial evidence was not a mistake - it was a deliberate act of corruption and dishonesty - by anybodies standards...
miketesko 1 year ago 3
Jeremy could not and did not move the rifle from the bedroom window after 7:15am, and he did not place it on top of his sisters body in the bedroom, at any stage after 7:15am - Essex police had this evidence by the time of Jeremy's trial in October 19856, yet they refused to acknowledge its existence, or to disclose it...
What a wicked evil thing to do...
A man has spent the best part of 25 years in jail for something he could not have done, and the police had evidence to prove he didn't do it
miketesko 1 year ago
@miketesko
He's as guilty a sin Bamber is a murderer I have met him and spoken to him & I am convinced he is a guilty man
deanoman1000 1 year ago 2
@deanoman1000 a lot of other people have met him and have come to an entirely different opinion. have you met his ex girlfriend as well? If she knew all those things she said he'd told her before the funeral then she was a better actor than Jeremy was supposed to be. Surely an indication that she made it all up?
grahame4647 1 year ago
The police withheld the very evidence which would help to prove and establish that there must have been someone still very much alive inside the farmhouse, because that rifle was moved from the window at some stage after 7:15am, and ended up on top of Sheila's body...
How did the rifle move from the bedroom window after 7:15am, and end up on top of Sheila's body, by the time the police supposedly found her body in the bedroom?
miketesko 1 year ago 2
Lets look at the facts:-
the case was originally treated as being "four murders and a suicide", the case at that stage, included a witness statement from a WPC Julia Jeapes, a trained firearms instructor with Essex police, who stated in that statement that she could see a rifle leaning up against the bedroom window...
Then, the nature of the investigation changed, into" five murders"...
What did the police do, they withheld WPC Julia Jeapes witness statement, and they kept it secret...
miketesko 1 year ago
In my view, there appears to be evidence that someone has tried to wipe the vertically running blood from the lower wound, to prevent anyone from being able to find out that Sheila was or may have been stood upright after she received the initial shot to the side of the neck. This appears to have been done, before PC Bird started to take his crime scene photographs, at 10 O'clock that morning...
miketesko 1 year ago
This evidence of vertically running blood from the lower wound, is consistent with Sheila having regained consciousness after she was originally wounded downstairs, and that she fled upstairs to the bedroom, where she received the second shot under the chin which effectively killed her...
miketesko 1 year ago
If you look closely enough, there is evidence that blood from the lower wound, ran vertically, rather than horizontally from the wound, giving a good indication that Sheila was stood upright at some stage after she received the initial shot to the side of the throat (the lower wound). This feature is not duplicated in respect of the upper wound, and suggests that she was laid down, or that she fell down immediately onto the bedroom floor, after she received the second shot...
miketesko 1 year ago
There were, therefore, two silencers in the equation, one which had the original identifying mark of SBJ/1, which was subsequently altered into DRB/1, and the other silencer which David Boutflour found in the gun cupboard, on 10 August 1985, bearing the identifying mark of DB/1...
miketesko 1 year ago
Essex police handed silencer (SBJ/1) back to family, and it was later handed back to the police by Ann Eaton, on 11 September 1985, and retained by Essex police, until 26 September 1985, at which stage it was submitted to the Lab' under the altered identifying mark of DRB/1...
miketesko 1 year ago
First silencer in police possession had identifying mark of SBJ/1 - believed to have been found at the scene by DS "Stan" Jones, on the morning of 7 August 1985...
Second silencer, bearing identifying mark, DB/1, was found in gun cupboard by David Boutflour, and taken to the home of Ann and Peter Eaton for storage until the evening of 12 August 1985, when DS Jones collected it from Peter Eaton. This silencer was not sent to the Lab' until 30 August 1985...
miketesko 1 year ago
Police were aware that Sheila had been shot downstairs with a gun that had a silencer fitted, and that the second wound upstairs, was inflicted by a different gun, which did not have a silencer fitted to its barrel - the pathologist removed two bullets from Sheila's body, one of which was a fragmented bullet (PV./20) which by 20 September 1985, had become transformed into a whole bullet, that enabled the ballistic expert to match both bullets to the gun on the body...
miketesko 1 year ago
The blood flow is the same from both wounds and so she could not have been standing when recieving the first shot. The 2 bullet wounds strongly suggest that one is fired with a silencer attached, and one without. this raises the the question,Could sheila have shot herself twice? Answer,No. I feel that bamber is responsible for the killings.
TheHughes56 1 year ago
@TheHughes56 she could not have been able to reach the trigger with the silencer attached. The woulds do not show that and in any case this in itself does not connect Jeremy to the crime.in fact there is absolutely no proof that a silencer was used at all. Blood on the silencer was not found on first examination. Then much later it was examined again and hey presto blood miraculously appears. Strange how this silencer and other "evidence" was not found by the police, but by the relatives.
grahame4647 1 year ago
There is to much doubt with this case, and once everyone knows all the evidence that is available they will come to realise that something does not add up, and this man should be released from prison. There needs to be an investigation that is not influenced by this mans family. The familys actions around the time of the investigation was very suspicious, Free this man and give us faith in the criminal justice system.
sister4paws 1 year ago 2
Was Sheila Caffell, still barely alive, at the time PC Bird, took this photograph, at around 10 O'Clock that morning?
miketesko 1 year ago
Bloodied fingermarks can be seen around the upper entry wound site, and fresh looking blood has run out over the top of these - the police claim that Sheila Caffells hands and fingers were spotlessly clean and blood free, so who made these bloodied fingermarks, and why was somebody, anybody, interested in trying to prevent blood from leaking out of the wound ?
miketesko 1 year ago
Once the heart stops beating, blood is no longer being pumped around the body, and within a relatively short period of time, around 15 minutes, or so, no more oxygen exists in the blood inside the body, and the blood starts to degenerate and breakdown - Yet, as this crime scene photograph shows, the blood which is running and leaking and pouring from these two wounds upon Sheila's neck, is still relatively fresh looking and bright red in colour?
miketesko 1 year ago
If Sheila had been killed by Bamber, prior to 3am, in the bedroom, as alleged, blood would not still be leaking, and running, and pouring from the two wounds upon her neck and the corners of her mouth, at 10 O'clock that morning - it would have coagulated and dried long before then...
miketesko 1 year ago 2
@miketesko i agree when the police got there at 9:25am it was still wet and bamber was with the police.
Jazzieboa 1 year ago
It was an accepted fact, during Bambers trial, in October 1986, that if Bamber killed the five victims, including Sheila, that he would have had to have done so, before 3am, that morning...
miketesko 1 year ago 2