It is ridiculous to pit these two squads against each other. Who would win is the wrong question. Who is better prepared to deal with the unique challenges that each nation faces is a better question. They're similar but different. Some of the training is almost certainly going to be different given the differences in geography, climate, demographics and so on. Like several others who've comments here, I can see them drinking beer together. Not sure I agree with anti-Arab sentiments expressed.
@Blackbirdisms The show is a joke. It's all horseshit. They have no idea what they're talking about anymore than kids in a playground debating whether a knight would beat a samurai. The difference between the top soldiers amongst NATO countries is minimal.
The SAS is starting to adopt the C7 and C8. And not yet were facing 60+ years of combat experience. CSOR vs Rangers or Canadian Airborne Regiment vs the Paras.
Nothing would happen. SAS is considered one of the early examples of the modern special forces unit (predates the SEALs and was inspirational in the formation of the Delta Force for you US types :) ). Also, Canada has stronger ties to England than they do to the US, by virtue of shared heritage. So if they were to run into each other, odds are they'd buy each other rounds and swap stories. :)
JTF-2 is a few hundred operators (600 officially, but I think they have trouble reaching this staffing target and maintaining it). That's pulled from all branches of the CF which currently has about 68K people. So assume a ratio of 100 regulars to 1 JTF operator.
UK: 227,000. So that should let them field 2270 or so operators in their SF but field 600. JTF staffs 600 from a lot smaller pool and the new SOAR has made this situation worse.
SAS didn't draw from 1st SSF as much as subsequent Canadian and US Forces did (although I'm sure they did take lessons as they heard about them, that's how SF communities work). SAS would mostly have taken their original methods from David Stirling's Long Range Desert Group.
Google "Canadian Governor General", select first link, use menu bar to select roles and responsibilities - this describes the role of the Governor General in Canada. If you think we 'broke off from the monarch', you need to educate yourself about how our system works. No Bill in Canada becomes law without Royal Assent.
The SAS are legendary in my mind, but I've never even heard of JTF2 until now, and I'm Canadian :/ so you know they're all about the secret services...
Powerful assault rifles? Its a 223. a 22 calibre. Granted a fast 22 but not as wild as the 7.62 X 51 MM FN M14 etc. Its just good enough and you can carry a lot of ammo.
JTF2, was also considered to be one if the best special forces out there. SAS is an amazing force of which I admire. But when I say JTF2 is better, I mean in comparison to navy seals. An article on CBc I believe said that the head of navy seals chose JTF2 to go on a mission in Afghanistan, rather than his own navy seals!!! JTF2 compared to SAS, well I really don't know
Fuck em up JTF2 canada will pwn your skinny ass suck up soldiers after we kill you we will bring you home and you into some syrup and put you on your mom's pancakes
Navy Seals would bag all of them at the pub when they weren't looking. Then throw their bodies into the ocean so they could not become martyrs. That's how you do it.
I would reluctantly vote for SAS, both are top notch squads. But in my personal experiences (NATO exercises, not JTF2vsSAS and 5 in total) Canada only beat the brits once. Brits took number 1 every other time.
Although, bringing beers to mid-field is a likely outcome too :D
I would say SAS would win they are more experienced and have been around longer.They are the best hands down. JTF2 is definitely Tier one unit. The only other units that might could compare or are better would be Devgrou, Delta, Australian SAS,NZ SAS, Israeli commandos and maybe a couple others I haven't named
my uncle is a sniper in jtf2. he is actually a really down to earth guy too. sucks though, when ever igo to visit, he wants to go to the mall were they have lazer tag at.... fucking sucks.
As a Canadian I know for sure this would never happen. But if it did, most people on both sides would be dead, and the rest on both side would be severly injured. Both are top notch.
HAHA! The only thing that would happen is that both units will head out to the nearest Canadian bar (since British pubs are always cramped as hell), and the Brits will bring their fine import brew over. At which point our boys will proceed to pound 'er back like there's no tomorrow and the Brits, while may possibly be better as a tactical unit, will never attempt to out drink us.
well ! the fact you are Seal , JTF, SAS, Spetnaz, Mussad or else, .. its not as important as you think on a battlefield,... keep thinking you are a superman , .. and you will be back in a bodybag . Come back alive or all those titles mean nothing.
JTF2 and SAS would have a stare down. Then some Seals would bring a few beers over and the three of them would go to the other side of town and fuck up some middle eastern bars instead !
Thumbs up if you think its more likely to happen then a fight between the 2 !
Ahem.... the Governor General acts as the Queen's representative in Canada. The Queen is our head of state. How exactly is that 'broke off from the monarch'? You might want to understand your own country.
@Bunrn199 But the special forces of the U.S., Canada and Britain trace back to the 1st Special Service Force, the "Devil's Brigade" that fought during WWII.
Actually, no one would win. This is what would happen:
SAS and JTF 2 meet each other on the field. Then they go to a pub and hoist a few. Now we have a group of boys (and girls) totally ready to wreck any shit that got in their way! I say this as a proud member of the CF!
Seriously, this sort of 'never happen' crap is what armchair 'warriors' talk about. The actual quiet professionals have important work to do. They recognize each other, their respective strengths, and cooperate quickly and competently.
SAS - institutional experience, worldwide mission experience, tradition of getting it done and then writing a book (heh). Plus they use the C7/C8.
JTF-2 - replaced RCMP CERT in PSD/CT role, good operators, limited recruiting as CF is small
@20kilotun As a Member of the CF i agree 100% and would love to see this as a real DW episode and watch them shake hands, a high five /slap on the back and off to the pub screw the show lol! That would be hilarious.
They are the same because when the JTF2 have been created they were train by SAS members so they have the same tactics and way to work only weapons change.
Jtf2 was modeled after the sas so you would have a very even fight. My money would be on the sas, they use the g36 and g3 (I prefer over the canadian guns) and the g3 uses a .308 round that has great stopping power and accuracy.
@55dickhead@20kilotunlol i say this as pure humor so please don't take this the wrong way, but can anyone else confirm what i just read...Your name is dickhead? and You're going to join our CF as a INF OFF? or pilot, just what we need another dickhead. lol "Again purely for humor sake hope you see the joke ;) "
Both forces are among the best in the world, I'm a Canadian but I will not let nationalism blind me here. The SAS pioneered the methods and tactics we use, and have been conducting thousands of operations since their inception. JTF-2 is very skilled as well, but do not have the experience of the SAS or the budget. Both fierce fighting units, but the SAS would probably win.
@InfernalSatan agreed, if it was a real on tv episode the winner would be an INSANE lucky shot or something close like pistol to each others head and both are empty then one pulls out an extra concealed knife or something in that manner. Be a real nail biter i guess you'd call it. Like the Rangers Vs. Spetnaz or whatever that episode was were spetnaz one at the end just because the guy got lucky with a ballistic knife shot when it came down to a knife fight.
@InfernalSatan agreed, if it was a real on tv episode the winner would be an INSANE lucky shot or something close like pistol to each others head and both are empty then one pulls out an extra concealed knife or something in that manner. Be a real nail biter i guess you'd call it. Like the Rangers Vs. Spetnaz or whatever that episode was were spetnaz one at the end just because the guy got lucky with a ballistic knife shot when it came down to a knife fight.
Great training and good men doesn't help against the worlds best technologies. The US found bin laden by measuring his shadow with satellites. They attacked him with a top secret stealth helicopter and shot and use ammo and equipment that are cutting edge. It takes more than skill, ability and heart to win a fight.
@Zooni2 the type of thinking of placing technology above everything else is a big mistake. Having the world's best technologies may help you win fights, but what is the point of winning the fights if you lose the war? Do not mistaken Technology as a benefactor for winning wars because reality may in fact differ from theory no matter how sound it may seem (example Vietnam War).
IIRC the Canadians have really awesome snipers, but still the SAS are widely considered the best force in the world (and the SAS's counterpart, the SBS, who are supposedly better due to tougher training, but nobody has ever heard of them really).
Btw pic in video is the Australian SAS not the British one.
@TheEmarbe no i haven't but I am not going to bother arguing with someone on the internet. the TJF2 were formed in the 1990's, the SAS were formed in the 1940's. if you seen documentaries on there training then maybe you would under stand my point of view. but don't think I am dissing them, they kick ass just like every other special force group. I just would go with the SAS because they have been around for a far longer time.
well, the JTF2 was trained by the SAS, and by many other elites forces. and they have the advantage of secrecy. because no one know SH** about them. no one really know about their training,equipment identity. but the SAS is still in the top 3 elites forces. so it would be a tight fight.
@deathangellink seeing all the arguments already on this video, im not trying to start one here. but JTF2 is also one of the top 3. it would be a very tclose fight though, but Canada and GB wouldn't end up in a war with eachother anyways. lol
I'm Canadian but i would say that this is a very poor choice to compare JTF2 against the SAS. they only thing that would probably be similar would be there equipment, other then that there training is on a completely different base level. SAS would win, no questions asked.
@godofgreatnes only because there training is some of the hardest in the world, the SAS could possible our rank even the U.S. navy Seals. plus they have been around for a longer time. (since world war 2)
In regards to training and skill, Canada is top of its class no doubt! What we are lacking it equipment. Our government needs to buy our Forces new and more equipment, or have us, Canada, create our own military equipment. It would increase jobs, for one, bring profit to Canada and make our military even stronger. Who agrees with me?
well im canadian and know spec opps and the sas and the jtf2 are allied and train the same way use the same every thing the only thing we have that isnt shared is gas masks c4 and c3 and for weapons the c7 and c8 thats it and the mp5 and g3 are german so if it hapend it would be a family get together...... fuck america just sayin
i love the fact people are on here and saying stuff like the JTF-2 train the S.A.S, or the JTF-2 would win .... etc. The fact is they wont do this cause of the main reason which is most likely the fucking ridiculous state of classified both these 2 spec units are, thats the big one... and if anyone is gonna say "ohhh there not that classified herp derp derp" well prove to the whole world what both sides have to offer and show who is the best ....
These are rough estimes, but even if they are off by a mile, Canada is without a doubt more selective with its special forces.
We have the luxury of being able to do this as we can rely on the US to 'fill in' the other large numbers of troops required for most modern day missions.
The ratio of acceptance for US Special Forces is roughly 0.00013% of its total population.
Vs
The ratio of acceptance for Canada's JTF2 is roughly 0.00002% of its total population.
That means for every 66 special forces trained in the US, canada trains one.
So while the US has ten times canadas population, its training sixtey six times more special forces. Assuming training standards are similar, this inevitably will lead to a qualitative edge for Canada.
@MrChronicpayne Yes but out of the 300 M people over 50% is obesed. Your special Forces are good in terms of technology, but Canada will easily put your special forces out ranking in terms of training, equipment etc. One Canadian Special forces equal 5 U.S. special forces.
Theres a reason the US commander chose JTF2. US special forces are good no question, but because JTF2 is so small, its able to maintain an extremely high standard for selection.
Even after the conservative government announced plans to double JTF2's unit size, it is still estimated to be under one thousand personal total. (including support and administration staff)
Compared that to the US special forces community which ive heard is over 40,000 strong among all the service depts.
"While serving with Task Force K-Bar, commander Rear Admiral Robert Harward stated that his JTF2 team was his first choice for any direct action missions, yet Harward had eight other countries' special forces units to choose from, even his own SEALs."
As much as i would like to see this episode, it will never happen.
JTF-2, because it is the only special forces unit canada maintains in operation, has security restrictions placed on it which are unparalled in the special forces community.
Theres a reason most CANADIANS dont even know what JTF2 is or what it does.
There is no need to guess who would win. JTF2 has beaten Delta Force, Seals and SAS in war games on more than one occasion. We're Canadians, obviously we win we have a history of it. We were the most feared and effective fighting force of world war 2. We burned down the white house and forced the americans into surrendering by signing a treaty when there were only 70,000 Canadians and 8 million americans. We win hands down and it's because of this we're quiet and nice, no need to boast.
@ITTutorCanada SAS would win JTF2. there the most feared sf in the world. Hardest training in the world and more experienced. JFT2 are counter terrorism. SAS do counter terrorism and much more. JFT2 get troops from any regiment in thier army doesnt matter how long they have been in it. SAS you have to have served for at least 3 years in either the royal marines or para regiment both of which are some of the best trained soldiers in the world.
@england930 It's hard to confirm the statements I made before about the results of war games. JTF2 is extremely secretive, little to nothing is known about them except that they exist. I believe I read the "facts" that I listed on a wikipedia article once upon a time but who knows how accurate. In light of that I think it's impossible to do a real comparison. As far as what I said about us burning down the white house etc, well that's all very well established fact. :)
@ITTutorCanada i think you should educate yourself more about the war of 1812 "we" may have burnt the white house, but in their retailiation they burnt our palace (house) of parliement which at the time was located in toronto... no offense but please stop mentioning the white house burning.
@england930 Also, you don't know if counter terrorism is all they do. They are a clandestine sect of the Canadian armed forces. "Counter terrorism" is their only general, publicly released job description. Absolutely everything else about them is classified. So what if they can be drafted from any part of the military? They get drafted in to the unit and then they go through training, which is also classified. My point, you can't say they are better because no one even knows exactly what they do
@england930 SAS and JTF2 do the same shit. SAS recruiting is also the same as JTF2, you must have served a minimum of 3 years and are able to pass selection. You don't know fuck all, so don't make assumptions.
@SNeyePED Actually JTF2 take recruits from any branch of the army. SAS take only from the para regiment and Royal marines both are better trained than canadas army. So starting with a better core they also train with the SAS around the world in multiple activities. NATO even have them as there best SF and have proven themselves in the few public known operations they have done.
@england930 It doesn't fucking matter if your para or a royal marine, if someone can pass selection, they are suitable. It doesn't matter if it's a fucking cook or communications guy, if you can pass selection, you can pass. SAS just limits their recruiting pool by doing just para's and royal marines.
@england930 Honestly, good luck getting into JTF2 as an assaulter if you aren't airborne infantry or at least a combat arm. Just saying, good men have tried.
@driverv86. Combat arms may help but if you got what it takes and the right attitude you can get in no matter what trade. Who says those "good men" didn't have what the unit wanted?
@greyman686 I'm not saying that isn't the official position, but the reality is different. I should not have said JTF2 though, I was sort of thinking CSOR. JTF takes the BEST. Period. They don't care AS much about trade. But I have multiple friends who have tried ( a few who succeeded) to go CSOR. It sounds like an old boys club from the old airborne.
@ITTutorCanada man from another Canadian we never burnt down the white house .that is bs the British soldiers did that fresh from European wars it is a cute idea tho .
@ITTutorCanada I would like to know where your getting your information from about JTF2, SAS, DELTA war games. Because quite frankly I believe your full of shit. If your not you must have a high SC and in that case probably wouldnt be running your mouth. Even JTF2's 7 day selection is highly secretive, guys I know that got RTU from it wont talk about it. We did not burn down the white house, the british did canada was not a country. SAS had a pivotal role in JTF2 start up, both are amazing SF.
@dillonhillier Learn your history and I'm not too sure about SAS's role in JTF2 I have a friend who was part of the taskforce that grandfathered JTF2 so I'd have to talk to him about it but it's not anything he ever mentioned. Regarding that information I can't say exactly where I got it from but it is at least fair to say it is hearsay and if you look at my other comments I actually stated this already and basically said forget the statement because you are correct, everything is secret.
@ITTutorCanada I do know my history, Canada was not a country till 1867 and the raid conducted by Britain on Washington that resulted in the burning of the white house was carried out by combat vets of the Napoleonic wars. The unit that pre dated JTF2 was the RCMP SERT team, if that is what you are referencing to about your friend I would take what he has to tell you with a grain of salt when talking about matters of CANSOFCOM.
@TheJayWar and it the Americans didn't surrender, the treaty was agreed upon by both sides and all territories conquered during the war returned to the original owner....except for native land and both sides were guilty of that =S
@ITTutorCanada Let's not get cocky. Canadian forces are well trained and disciplined, but limited in number. The Plan depends on Canada being underestimated. If there were a Plan, I mean.
So whats with the comment? Looks like boasting to me.
As someone who's seen both British and Canadian forces train, I can attain that both are excellent fighting forces. Both encourage a special brand of commonwealth training and innovation that allow both countries to punch above the weight in terms of military strength. I've been told more than one humorous story in war games and actions in Afghanistan.
You need a history lesson and some Canadian manners, sir.
@ITTutorCanada Please go back and read the history books... The burning of the white house during the war of 1812 was done by the British army. There may have been some Canadians serving for the British, but the main body of troops were British redcoats, aswell as all thier officers and the white house burning was part of a wider blockade being carried out by the British Empire. Canada didn't burn down the white house, Britain did.
@Salvus967 Also, during the war of 1812, a great deal of ontario's population were actually Americans who had recently moved to Canada and held no real patriotism towards it.. almost half of the population actually supported the u.s. invasion. it was largely thanks to Britain's resolve not to give up the Canada's aswell as the Natives under Tecumseh. So I don't know why us Canadians take so much credit for that war. we contributed the least to it. redcoats and indians won it.
I think the biggest problem in this compareson is SAS is a reconized Special Unit thats operational history has been somewhat publishized, and JTF-2 is a Secret special unit which the public does not access to much operational information... I think it would be better to use the CSOR unit as its not secret. or MI-6 on the other side.
@jopeteify What this guy said. JTF2 is not the Unit to compare to SAS or even SEALS. They Train with the U.S DELTA(Dboys- 1st Special Forces Operational Detachment-Delta), and can cooperate fully in operations with them. I believe there IS a counter-terrorism Brit unit these two cooperate with : Special Air Service anti–hijacking counter–terrorism team. These three units have trained together from hearsay anecdotes. CIA/MI5-6/CSE do recruit from these units for operators.
I would add, that it is silly to put weapons that JTF2 uses there. The operators get an allowance and get to PICK which weapons they want to use.
The CIA has a group called SAD, they recruit from the D boys for mission specific teams. Also, I heard a rumor about there being another unit higher then Delta that so far isn't named. But you know rumors in the military...
@ROBAIRify I no that bit I went over the top saying mexico but it is quite close to france and germany who are quite good. I never said JTF2 were bad I just said SAS are the best in the world only people who disagree are people who say there country has the best. SAS are one of the few sf who a high proportion of population in every country thinks are the best
All debates ended when the commanding general of allied troops in Afghanistan said JTF2 were the go to team above any other unit - yes that includes Seals, green beret, delta, rangers, or any other allied team. Discretion was apart of it and if you look the only info about JTF2 really comes from US sources...
JTF2 wins because if you heard on the comm that Canadians were attacking you'd never believe it!! The rest of the world living in ignorance of our military capabilities is on of our biggest assets.
this is a horriblwe comparison....the only thing you can compare is there gear...you cant guess who would win seriously with out actualy compareing real teams of operators
@petawawa1 Make sure you spell correctly before you criticize me so that I can take you seriously. And if you ever heard of Deadliest Warrior the show, you would know that it is possible. They have already had the Israeli Commandos and Navy SEALS face off
JTF2 does not make appearances on tv. There would be no-one to ask about the training since no-one would come forward and say "Hey im a retired JTF2 operator film me for national TV???" JTF2 is one of the most secrete task forces in the world privacy is one of their top priority's so Peta is right. There would be no real way to compare the two....
@BlueTeamTV do you trust every stupid tv show? to believe that everything on tv is true you must be ignorant and close minded.i was only implying that its hard to judge two highly secretive organisations when you don't know 1 eighth of the stuff they have done.and im sorry that my last comment was not grammatically correct
@BlueTeamTV and that was bull shit I have no idea why the commandos brought the weapons they had when Israel produces some of the best gear for the soldier, why would the SEALs win, oh wait its an american show duh
@BlueTeamTV that show is also full of shit to so i do have to agree with petawawa to a certain degree special since Canada trains the S.A.S in diving and water things like that
@BlueTeamTV Its just for entertainment if you didnt realize that yet. American teenagers dont want to see americans losing so obviously they will always win in us television.
@BlueTeamTV The show where they invit people descendant from nation which were good in millitary welfare to use there weapon over a dummy to analize it to see who is the MOST DEAFLIEST WARRIOR EVER..
@BlueTeamTV My Brother was in Pet for 10 years, Canadian solders Rock. I cant even think of any solder in the CAF who is trained any less then the Marines. We may be small but we are mighty. Even our Reservist are better trained then American Army.
UK would win due to superior training SAS training is harder and almost twice as long as the canadian. Canadian sf train in canada SAS come from RMCs or Para regiment who are all trained to fight in every condition. UK SAS is the basis for almost every sf in the world and they all want to be as good as the SAS.
@england930 ummm for one you dont know what you're talking about and without getting into it Reg Canadian forces train in more extreme weather then anything England has so before you start pulling bullshit theory's about Canadian SF training actually try to educate yourself and come back. fool.
@TheEmarbe I dont no what im talking about. SAS train around the world not just in one country they can deploy at a moments noticed they are trained in the same areas as canadians and some more which they dont and SAS train for longer. There is no contest or comparison between the two SAS is better
@england930 Even the commanding general of nato forces in Afghanistan said publicly his go to team is JTF2 above all other SF.....so SAS are no way shape or form better, not by a long shot.
@TheEmarbe The americans and the rest of the world think SAS are better. Our enemies fear the SAS more. SAS training is longer and harder. JTF2 do not compare to the SAS try comparing to irelands special forces or Mexicos if they have any. Only US seals or spetznaz come any way near to SAS even they arent as good
It is ridiculous to pit these two squads against each other. Who would win is the wrong question. Who is better prepared to deal with the unique challenges that each nation faces is a better question. They're similar but different. Some of the training is almost certainly going to be different given the differences in geography, climate, demographics and so on. Like several others who've comments here, I can see them drinking beer together. Not sure I agree with anti-Arab sentiments expressed.
Blackbirdisms 1 day ago
@Blackbirdisms The show is a joke. It's all horseshit. They have no idea what they're talking about anymore than kids in a playground debating whether a knight would beat a samurai. The difference between the top soldiers amongst NATO countries is minimal.
BigMikeMcBastard 15 hours ago
The SAS is starting to adopt the C7 and C8. And not yet were facing 60+ years of combat experience. CSOR vs Rangers or Canadian Airborne Regiment vs the Paras.
Freepepsi42 1 day ago
JTF2 and SAS would fight anybody in the world before one anouther.
arrrlen 1 day ago 2
canadians have a weapon where everybody lives. its call talking it over
calmdowncharliebro 1 day ago
i think those 2 unit or equal because the jtf training is base on sas training and they train together so...
SuperSalutcava 2 days ago
Nothing would happen. SAS is considered one of the early examples of the modern special forces unit (predates the SEALs and was inspirational in the formation of the Delta Force for you US types :) ). Also, Canada has stronger ties to England than they do to the US, by virtue of shared heritage. So if they were to run into each other, odds are they'd buy each other rounds and swap stories. :)
AdeptPaladin 3 days ago
@SupremeCmdr:
As to JTF-2 recruiting:
JTF-2 is a few hundred operators (600 officially, but I think they have trouble reaching this staffing target and maintaining it). That's pulled from all branches of the CF which currently has about 68K people. So assume a ratio of 100 regulars to 1 JTF operator.
UK: 227,000. So that should let them field 2270 or so operators in their SF but field 600. JTF staffs 600 from a lot smaller pool and the new SOAR has made this situation worse.
ghandimauler 3 days ago
@ghandimauler 600 members in total, not operators. 450~ are specialists/other and 150~ are core assaulters/operators.
SNeyePED 3 days ago
@SNeyePED Those numbers are not legit... the exact Number is classified.
Supamann1231 2 days ago
@trstn100:
SAS didn't draw from 1st SSF as much as subsequent Canadian and US Forces did (although I'm sure they did take lessons as they heard about them, that's how SF communities work). SAS would mostly have taken their original methods from David Stirling's Long Range Desert Group.
ghandimauler 3 days ago
@Red1676
Google "Canadian Governor General", select first link, use menu bar to select roles and responsibilities - this describes the role of the Governor General in Canada. If you think we 'broke off from the monarch', you need to educate yourself about how our system works. No Bill in Canada becomes law without Royal Assent.
ghandimauler 3 days ago
JTF2 Win :D
Hells10Bells 5 days ago
The SAS are legendary in my mind, but I've never even heard of JTF2 until now, and I'm Canadian :/ so you know they're all about the secret services...
Shaniq307 6 days ago
@Shaniq307 I guess if you didn't know about it... the "secret" part is working ;-)
MrPrairieGunner 5 days ago
@Shaniq307 if u never heard of um maybe theres a reason , dumb ass .
sackville10 4 days ago
I want to see delta vs. sas
52Captian 1 week ago
Powerful assault rifles? Its a 223. a 22 calibre. Granted a fast 22 but not as wild as the 7.62 X 51 MM FN M14 etc. Its just good enough and you can carry a lot of ammo.
Alexmcgruer3 1 week ago
JTF2, was also considered to be one if the best special forces out there. SAS is an amazing force of which I admire. But when I say JTF2 is better, I mean in comparison to navy seals. An article on CBc I believe said that the head of navy seals chose JTF2 to go on a mission in Afghanistan, rather than his own navy seals!!! JTF2 compared to SAS, well I really don't know
krazyycanadian 1 week ago
Fuck em up JTF2 canada will pwn your skinny ass suck up soldiers after we kill you we will bring you home and you into some syrup and put you on your mom's pancakes
TheBuddyben 1 week ago
Navy Seals would bag all of them at the pub when they weren't looking. Then throw their bodies into the ocean so they could not become martyrs. That's how you do it.
bwhitcomb2011 1 week ago
@bwhitcomb2011 Haha I didn't know the SAS and JTF2 were full of muslim extremists
KingWildCAN 1 week ago
I would reluctantly vote for SAS, both are top notch squads. But in my personal experiences (NATO exercises, not JTF2vsSAS and 5 in total) Canada only beat the brits once. Brits took number 1 every other time.
Although, bringing beers to mid-field is a likely outcome too :D
TheStJames23 2 weeks ago
I would say SAS would win they are more experienced and have been around longer.They are the best hands down. JTF2 is definitely Tier one unit. The only other units that might could compare or are better would be Devgrou, Delta, Australian SAS,NZ SAS, Israeli commandos and maybe a couple others I haven't named
evilhamster14422 2 weeks ago
@painterboy121 canada is not part of the monarch shit anymore, stupid fucking american
Red1676 2 weeks ago
my uncle is a sniper in jtf2. he is actually a really down to earth guy too. sucks though, when ever igo to visit, he wants to go to the mall were they have lazer tag at.... fucking sucks.
Red1676 2 weeks ago
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JTF2 was/is the most reliable Direct Action SFO unit. Rear Admiral Robert Harward, SEALS.
JTF2 out preformed such NATO units as the SAS, NZSAS, Jegerkommando, Kommando Spezialkräfte, and the SEALS.
Nice work JTF2!
WolvesWest 2 weeks ago
As a Canadian I know for sure this would never happen. But if it did, most people on both sides would be dead, and the rest on both side would be severly injured. Both are top notch.
Algonquin81 2 weeks ago
jtf2
12uberhaxornovafan 2 weeks ago
HAHA! The only thing that would happen is that both units will head out to the nearest Canadian bar (since British pubs are always cramped as hell), and the Brits will bring their fine import brew over. At which point our boys will proceed to pound 'er back like there's no tomorrow and the Brits, while may possibly be better as a tactical unit, will never attempt to out drink us.
Happy ending.
sumedhraghavan8732 2 weeks ago
@sumedhraghavan8732 if a JOINT member had 1 beer they would be kicked out and shoot in the back they ned to stay focus ALL THE TIME
DBO165 2 weeks ago
@DBO165 off duty genius, even a janitor can't drink on the job.
sumedhraghavan8732 2 weeks ago
well ! the fact you are Seal , JTF, SAS, Spetnaz, Mussad or else, .. its not as important as you think on a battlefield,... keep thinking you are a superman , .. and you will be back in a bodybag . Come back alive or all those titles mean nothing.
APhilCollinsFan 3 weeks ago
JTF2 is still far to new to even be considered in this
attwarren 3 weeks ago
@attwarren Not really.
Either way SAS and JTF2 are the best of the best.
awsomeking5 3 weeks ago
JTF2 and SAS would have a stare down. Then some Seals would bring a few beers over and the three of them would go to the other side of town and fuck up some middle eastern bars instead !
Thumbs up if you think its more likely to happen then a fight between the 2 !
SuperTurbo1200 3 weeks ago 44
wasn't the JTF2 infantryman modeled after the S.A.S.????
pejb83 3 weeks ago
Lol sas and jtf-2 = under the queen
cjcouture23 3 weeks ago
@cjcouture23 no its not jackass, canada broke off from the monarch shit... dumb american
Red1676 2 weeks ago
@Red1676
Ahem.... the Governor General acts as the Queen's representative in Canada. The Queen is our head of state. How exactly is that 'broke off from the monarch'? You might want to understand your own country.
ghandimauler 1 week ago
@99hockeynhl Yes but their trainning is based on SAS because the SAS where created before the JTF2.
Bunrn199 3 weeks ago
@Bunrn199 But the special forces of the U.S., Canada and Britain trace back to the 1st Special Service Force, the "Devil's Brigade" that fought during WWII.
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shoopdawhoop217 3 weeks ago
Actually, no one would win. This is what would happen:
SAS and JTF 2 meet each other on the field. Then they go to a pub and hoist a few. Now we have a group of boys (and girls) totally ready to wreck any shit that got in their way! I say this as a proud member of the CF!
20kilotun 3 weeks ago 89
@20kilotun Hooah!
Typhoon1021 3 weeks ago
@20kilotun Ya why the fuck whould the jtf ever be fighting the SAS. You calling the Brits terrorists?
metilhed001 2 weeks ago
Seriously, this sort of 'never happen' crap is what armchair 'warriors' talk about. The actual quiet professionals have important work to do. They recognize each other, their respective strengths, and cooperate quickly and competently.
SAS - institutional experience, worldwide mission experience, tradition of getting it done and then writing a book (heh). Plus they use the C7/C8.
JTF-2 - replaced RCMP CERT in PSD/CT role, good operators, limited recruiting as CF is small
ghandimauler 1 week ago
@ghandimauler How small is small? Plus the Canadians made the C7/C8.
SupremeCmder 6 days ago
@20kilotun As a Member of the CF i agree 100% and would love to see this as a real DW episode and watch them shake hands, a high five /slap on the back and off to the pub screw the show lol! That would be hilarious.
D2Viper 1 week ago
@D2Viper No kidding? Army, Air Force or RCN?
20kilotun 1 week ago
@20kilotun Army, RCA. Yourself?
D2Viper 1 week ago
@D2Viper Navy, MARLANT. And loving it.
20kilotun 1 week ago
@20kilotun ya i can see it.
SNistuk 4 days ago
@20kilotun Hope to see you in the lines man!
Duenas411 2 days ago
This is hard, SAS are the best close quaters combat trained in the world, while Canadians are known to be the best snipers in the world.
CanadianDipper18 3 weeks ago
They are the same because when the JTF2 have been created they were train by SAS members so they have the same tactics and way to work only weapons change.
Bunrn199 3 weeks ago
@Bunrn199 actuley the jtf 2 now have there own training
99hockeynhl 3 weeks ago
Jtf2 was modeled after the sas so you would have a very even fight. My money would be on the sas, they use the g36 and g3 (I prefer over the canadian guns) and the g3 uses a .308 round that has great stopping power and accuracy.
EmanGtown 4 weeks ago
@EmanGtown Im not arguing with you, but if you think of it --> Its not the gun, its who uses it :)
Typhoon1021 3 weeks ago
I am canadian who is going for the CF (ethier army- infantry officer or airforce- pilot) and i disagree with the top coment by ITTutorCanada
55dickhead 4 weeks ago
@55dickhead then you dont belong in the military... and dont say anything stupid about bravery or anything cuz im already working hard at joining.
J3Wburner6K6K6K 4 weeks ago
@55dickhead @20kilotunlol i say this as pure humor so please don't take this the wrong way, but can anyone else confirm what i just read...Your name is dickhead? and You're going to join our CF as a INF OFF? or pilot, just what we need another dickhead. lol "Again purely for humor sake hope you see the joke ;) "
D2Viper 1 week ago
@D2Viper no problem im canadian eh yeah idk had to comeup with something quick
55dickhead 1 week ago
Both forces are among the best in the world, I'm a Canadian but I will not let nationalism blind me here. The SAS pioneered the methods and tactics we use, and have been conducting thousands of operations since their inception. JTF-2 is very skilled as well, but do not have the experience of the SAS or the budget. Both fierce fighting units, but the SAS would probably win.
Waredwr 4 weeks ago
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Win, its what Canadians do
TheCDNkindaguy 4 weeks ago
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TheCDNkindaguy 4 weeks ago
The answer is: They are both good and respectable
InfernalSatan 1 month ago
@InfernalSatan excellent answer
jameseichelisme 1 month ago
@InfernalSatan agreed, if it was a real on tv episode the winner would be an INSANE lucky shot or something close like pistol to each others head and both are empty then one pulls out an extra concealed knife or something in that manner. Be a real nail biter i guess you'd call it. Like the Rangers Vs. Spetnaz or whatever that episode was were spetnaz one at the end just because the guy got lucky with a ballistic knife shot when it came down to a knife fight.
D2Viper 1 week ago
@InfernalSatan agreed, if it was a real on tv episode the winner would be an INSANE lucky shot or something close like pistol to each others head and both are empty then one pulls out an extra concealed knife or something in that manner. Be a real nail biter i guess you'd call it. Like the Rangers Vs. Spetnaz or whatever that episode was were spetnaz one at the end just because the guy got lucky with a ballistic knife shot when it came down to a knife fight.
D2Viper 1 week ago
Great training and good men doesn't help against the worlds best technologies. The US found bin laden by measuring his shadow with satellites. They attacked him with a top secret stealth helicopter and shot and use ammo and equipment that are cutting edge. It takes more than skill, ability and heart to win a fight.
Zooni2 1 month ago
@Zooni2 i hope you bin laden isnt dead right... you really believe that bullshit. fucking governments got america fucking hypnotized.
J3Wburner6K6K6K 4 weeks ago
@Zooni2 the type of thinking of placing technology above everything else is a big mistake. Having the world's best technologies may help you win fights, but what is the point of winning the fights if you lose the war? Do not mistaken Technology as a benefactor for winning wars because reality may in fact differ from theory no matter how sound it may seem (example Vietnam War).
AssassinGhost 2 weeks ago
Who cares they fight together not against each other I live in Canada and without the British we would be part of the u. S I say thank you
magicunicorn29 1 month ago
and also canada became a name from peaseants to the most feared soldiers in world war one
cockminimizer 1 month ago in playlist Deadliest Warrior, Season 3-Possible Matchups
LMAO! You can't judge which is a "better" special forces just by war games.
johnnyponny4 1 month ago
IIRC the Canadians have really awesome snipers, but still the SAS are widely considered the best force in the world (and the SAS's counterpart, the SBS, who are supposedly better due to tougher training, but nobody has ever heard of them really).
Btw pic in video is the Australian SAS not the British one.
SpyWhoLovedHimself 1 month ago
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@TheEmarbe no i haven't but I am not going to bother arguing with someone on the internet. the TJF2 were formed in the 1990's, the SAS were formed in the 1940's. if you seen documentaries on there training then maybe you would under stand my point of view. but don't think I am dissing them, they kick ass just like every other special force group. I just would go with the SAS because they have been around for a far longer time.
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finalgamer32 1 month ago
well, the JTF2 was trained by the SAS, and by many other elites forces. and they have the advantage of secrecy. because no one know SH** about them. no one really know about their training,equipment identity. but the SAS is still in the top 3 elites forces. so it would be a tight fight.
deathangellink 1 month ago
@deathangellink seeing all the arguments already on this video, im not trying to start one here. but JTF2 is also one of the top 3. it would be a very tclose fight though, but Canada and GB wouldn't end up in a war with eachother anyways. lol
godofgreatnes 1 month ago
I'm Canadian but i would say that this is a very poor choice to compare JTF2 against the SAS. they only thing that would probably be similar would be there equipment, other then that there training is on a completely different base level. SAS would win, no questions asked.
finalgamer32 1 month ago
@finalgamer32 im going to question your knowledge here. why do you think the SAS would win?
godofgreatnes 1 month ago
@godofgreatnes only because there training is some of the hardest in the world, the SAS could possible our rank even the U.S. navy Seals. plus they have been around for a longer time. (since world war 2)
finalgamer32 1 month ago
In regards to training and skill, Canada is top of its class no doubt! What we are lacking it equipment. Our government needs to buy our Forces new and more equipment, or have us, Canada, create our own military equipment. It would increase jobs, for one, bring profit to Canada and make our military even stronger. Who agrees with me?
LittleRUSKI95 1 month ago 74
@LittleRUSKI95 i do
REPINTDOT 1 month ago
@LittleRUSKI95 Ya, we can blame the Liberals for the funding issue
ShadowElement101095 1 month ago
@LittleRUSKI95 Amen brother
saren55 3 weeks ago
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darkborn20000 3 weeks ago
@LittleRUSKI95 Agreed. 100%
Typhoon1021 3 weeks ago
@LittleRUSKI95 HELL YEA IF IT WERNT FOR AMERICA WE'D PROBABLY HAVE THE AVRO ARROW STILL IN PRODUCTION!
MrShadowsbane 2 weeks ago
im Canadian and i think we would get wrecked =(
SixStringManiac11 1 month ago
what the hell! these two special forces are allies. They are so much alike. You should have picked a better comparison.
tangodownairsoft99 1 month ago
well im canadian and know spec opps and the sas and the jtf2 are allied and train the same way use the same every thing the only thing we have that isnt shared is gas masks c4 and c3 and for weapons the c7 and c8 thats it and the mp5 and g3 are german so if it hapend it would be a family get together...... fuck america just sayin
fucku2guy 1 month ago
i love the fact people are on here and saying stuff like the JTF-2 train the S.A.S, or the JTF-2 would win .... etc. The fact is they wont do this cause of the main reason which is most likely the fucking ridiculous state of classified both these 2 spec units are, thats the big one... and if anyone is gonna say "ohhh there not that classified herp derp derp" well prove to the whole world what both sides have to offer and show who is the best ....
MrChar1zard 1 month ago
These are rough estimes, but even if they are off by a mile, Canada is without a doubt more selective with its special forces.
We have the luxury of being able to do this as we can rely on the US to 'fill in' the other large numbers of troops required for most modern day missions.
Its a give and take
MrChronicpayne 1 month ago
The ratio of acceptance for US Special Forces is roughly 0.00013% of its total population.
Vs
The ratio of acceptance for Canada's JTF2 is roughly 0.00002% of its total population.
That means for every 66 special forces trained in the US, canada trains one.
So while the US has ten times canadas population, its training sixtey six times more special forces. Assuming training standards are similar, this inevitably will lead to a qualitative edge for Canada.
MrChronicpayne 1 month ago
@MrChronicpayne I call BS on that. State your reference. "roughly" 0.00002% WTF?
DrSheldonCooper1 1 month ago
@DrSheldonCooper1 Im taking both countries populations and dividing them by the number of special forces.
Last I checked the US has around 300 million people, with ~40k special forces.
Canada sits at around 30 million, with 600-1000 special forces.
So my numbers might be off by a bit but do it yourself, you will find the United States, per person, has more special forces than Canada.
MrChronicpayne 1 month ago
@MrChronicpayne Yes but out of the 300 M people over 50% is obesed. Your special Forces are good in terms of technology, but Canada will easily put your special forces out ranking in terms of training, equipment etc. One Canadian Special forces equal 5 U.S. special forces.
Toronto324 1 month ago
Theres a reason the US commander chose JTF2. US special forces are good no question, but because JTF2 is so small, its able to maintain an extremely high standard for selection.
Even after the conservative government announced plans to double JTF2's unit size, it is still estimated to be under one thousand personal total. (including support and administration staff)
Compared that to the US special forces community which ive heard is over 40,000 strong among all the service depts.
MrChronicpayne 1 month ago
"While serving with Task Force K-Bar, commander Rear Admiral Robert Harward stated that his JTF2 team was his first choice for any direct action missions, yet Harward had eight other countries' special forces units to choose from, even his own SEALs."
MrChronicpayne 1 month ago
As much as i would like to see this episode, it will never happen.
JTF-2, because it is the only special forces unit canada maintains in operation, has security restrictions placed on it which are unparalled in the special forces community.
Theres a reason most CANADIANS dont even know what JTF2 is or what it does.
MrChronicpayne 1 month ago
There is no need to guess who would win. JTF2 has beaten Delta Force, Seals and SAS in war games on more than one occasion. We're Canadians, obviously we win we have a history of it. We were the most feared and effective fighting force of world war 2. We burned down the white house and forced the americans into surrendering by signing a treaty when there were only 70,000 Canadians and 8 million americans. We win hands down and it's because of this we're quiet and nice, no need to boast.
ITTutorCanada 1 month ago 76
@ITTutorCanada SAS would win JTF2. there the most feared sf in the world. Hardest training in the world and more experienced. JFT2 are counter terrorism. SAS do counter terrorism and much more. JFT2 get troops from any regiment in thier army doesnt matter how long they have been in it. SAS you have to have served for at least 3 years in either the royal marines or para regiment both of which are some of the best trained soldiers in the world.
england930 1 month ago
@england930 It's hard to confirm the statements I made before about the results of war games. JTF2 is extremely secretive, little to nothing is known about them except that they exist. I believe I read the "facts" that I listed on a wikipedia article once upon a time but who knows how accurate. In light of that I think it's impossible to do a real comparison. As far as what I said about us burning down the white house etc, well that's all very well established fact. :)
ITTutorCanada 1 month ago
@ITTutorCanada i think you should educate yourself more about the war of 1812 "we" may have burnt the white house, but in their retailiation they burnt our palace (house) of parliement which at the time was located in toronto... no offense but please stop mentioning the white house burning.
jopeteify 1 month ago
@jopeteify LOL sit down kid.
ITTutorCanada 1 month ago
@england930 Also, you don't know if counter terrorism is all they do. They are a clandestine sect of the Canadian armed forces. "Counter terrorism" is their only general, publicly released job description. Absolutely everything else about them is classified. So what if they can be drafted from any part of the military? They get drafted in to the unit and then they go through training, which is also classified. My point, you can't say they are better because no one even knows exactly what they do
ITTutorCanada 1 month ago
@england930 SAS and JTF2 do the same shit. SAS recruiting is also the same as JTF2, you must have served a minimum of 3 years and are able to pass selection. You don't know fuck all, so don't make assumptions.
SNeyePED 1 month ago
@SNeyePED Actually JTF2 take recruits from any branch of the army. SAS take only from the para regiment and Royal marines both are better trained than canadas army. So starting with a better core they also train with the SAS around the world in multiple activities. NATO even have them as there best SF and have proven themselves in the few public known operations they have done.
england930 1 month ago
@england930 It doesn't fucking matter if your para or a royal marine, if someone can pass selection, they are suitable. It doesn't matter if it's a fucking cook or communications guy, if you can pass selection, you can pass. SAS just limits their recruiting pool by doing just para's and royal marines.
SNeyePED 1 month ago
@england930 Honestly, good luck getting into JTF2 as an assaulter if you aren't airborne infantry or at least a combat arm. Just saying, good men have tried.
driverv86 1 month ago
@driverv86. Combat arms may help but if you got what it takes and the right attitude you can get in no matter what trade. Who says those "good men" didn't have what the unit wanted?
greyman686 1 month ago
@greyman686 I'm not saying that isn't the official position, but the reality is different. I should not have said JTF2 though, I was sort of thinking CSOR. JTF takes the BEST. Period. They don't care AS much about trade. But I have multiple friends who have tried ( a few who succeeded) to go CSOR. It sounds like an old boys club from the old airborne.
driverv86 2 weeks ago
@driverv86 That very well could be. I don't know any operators from CSOR, only supporters.
greyman686 2 weeks ago
@ITTutorCanada man from another Canadian we never burnt down the white house .that is bs the British soldiers did that fresh from European wars it is a cute idea tho .
Chansulus 1 month ago
@ITTutorCanada I would like to know where your getting your information from about JTF2, SAS, DELTA war games. Because quite frankly I believe your full of shit. If your not you must have a high SC and in that case probably wouldnt be running your mouth. Even JTF2's 7 day selection is highly secretive, guys I know that got RTU from it wont talk about it. We did not burn down the white house, the british did canada was not a country. SAS had a pivotal role in JTF2 start up, both are amazing SF.
dillonhillier 1 month ago
@dillonhillier Learn your history and I'm not too sure about SAS's role in JTF2 I have a friend who was part of the taskforce that grandfathered JTF2 so I'd have to talk to him about it but it's not anything he ever mentioned. Regarding that information I can't say exactly where I got it from but it is at least fair to say it is hearsay and if you look at my other comments I actually stated this already and basically said forget the statement because you are correct, everything is secret.
ITTutorCanada 1 month ago
@ITTutorCanada I do know my history, Canada was not a country till 1867 and the raid conducted by Britain on Washington that resulted in the burning of the white house was carried out by combat vets of the Napoleonic wars. The unit that pre dated JTF2 was the RCMP SERT team, if that is what you are referencing to about your friend I would take what he has to tell you with a grain of salt when talking about matters of CANSOFCOM.
dillonhillier 1 month ago
@dillonhillier The french, british and natives fought in that war. THe british were english natives were native french were considered canadian
snowboarder1019 1 month ago
@ITTutorCanada damn straight us canadians also have da best beer to eh dont forgetwe went to war as soon as are beer became rationed
cockminimizer 1 month ago in playlist Deadliest Warrior, Season 3-Possible Matchups
@ITTutorCanada 70,000 Canadians vs 8 million Americans is a little flawed...you forgot to add that we had help from the British
TheJayWar 1 month ago
@TheJayWar and it the Americans didn't surrender, the treaty was agreed upon by both sides and all territories conquered during the war returned to the original owner....except for native land and both sides were guilty of that =S
FCchelsea3 4 weeks ago
@ITTutorCanada Let's not get cocky. Canadian forces are well trained and disciplined, but limited in number. The Plan depends on Canada being underestimated. If there were a Plan, I mean.
MysteryBowl 1 month ago
@ITTutorCanada Fuckin eh!
J3Wburner6K6K6K 4 weeks ago
@ITTutorCanada
So whats with the comment? Looks like boasting to me.
As someone who's seen both British and Canadian forces train, I can attain that both are excellent fighting forces. Both encourage a special brand of commonwealth training and innovation that allow both countries to punch above the weight in terms of military strength. I've been told more than one humorous story in war games and actions in Afghanistan.
You need a history lesson and some Canadian manners, sir.
Pizza23333 4 weeks ago
@ITTutorCanada Please go back and read the history books... The burning of the white house during the war of 1812 was done by the British army. There may have been some Canadians serving for the British, but the main body of troops were British redcoats, aswell as all thier officers and the white house burning was part of a wider blockade being carried out by the British Empire. Canada didn't burn down the white house, Britain did.
Salvus967 3 weeks ago
@Salvus967 Also, during the war of 1812, a great deal of ontario's population were actually Americans who had recently moved to Canada and held no real patriotism towards it.. almost half of the population actually supported the u.s. invasion. it was largely thanks to Britain's resolve not to give up the Canada's aswell as the Natives under Tecumseh. So I don't know why us Canadians take so much credit for that war. we contributed the least to it. redcoats and indians won it.
Salvus967 3 weeks ago
@Salvus967 Indians or natives?
jkosh25 3 weeks ago
@Salvus967 lol
jkosh25 3 weeks ago
sas doesnt use the g3 they use the S80 witch is fucking amazing it takes the .556 NATO standard round
Bassstylerz100 1 month ago
I think the biggest problem in this compareson is SAS is a reconized Special Unit thats operational history has been somewhat publishized, and JTF-2 is a Secret special unit which the public does not access to much operational information... I think it would be better to use the CSOR unit as its not secret. or MI-6 on the other side.
jopeteify 1 month ago
@jopeteify What this guy said. JTF2 is not the Unit to compare to SAS or even SEALS. They Train with the U.S DELTA(Dboys- 1st Special Forces Operational Detachment-Delta), and can cooperate fully in operations with them. I believe there IS a counter-terrorism Brit unit these two cooperate with : Special Air Service anti–hijacking counter–terrorism team. These three units have trained together from hearsay anecdotes. CIA/MI5-6/CSE do recruit from these units for operators.
Deckeon74 1 month ago
@Deckeon74 Yup, pretty much true.
I would add, that it is silly to put weapons that JTF2 uses there. The operators get an allowance and get to PICK which weapons they want to use.
The CIA has a group called SAD, they recruit from the D boys for mission specific teams. Also, I heard a rumor about there being another unit higher then Delta that so far isn't named. But you know rumors in the military...
driverv86 1 month ago
And to compare the Canadians to the Mexico Army is just plain crazy...
ROBAIRify 1 month ago
@ROBAIRify I no that bit I went over the top saying mexico but it is quite close to france and germany who are quite good. I never said JTF2 were bad I just said SAS are the best in the world only people who disagree are people who say there country has the best. SAS are one of the few sf who a high proportion of population in every country thinks are the best
england930 1 month ago
The Canadians dont train one country they train all over the world..........
ROBAIRify 1 month ago
WHO CARES? they both do their jobs perfectly..:P
Rey123Duncan 1 month ago
All debates ended when the commanding general of allied troops in Afghanistan said JTF2 were the go to team above any other unit - yes that includes Seals, green beret, delta, rangers, or any other allied team. Discretion was apart of it and if you look the only info about JTF2 really comes from US sources...
TheEmarbe 1 month ago
SASR Vs SAS Vs NZSAS
Killingzone99 1 month ago
JTF2 wins because if you heard on the comm that Canadians were attacking you'd never believe it!! The rest of the world living in ignorance of our military capabilities is on of our biggest assets.
wyngaardenr 1 month ago
SAS
icebatofvalikinRRBZ8 1 month ago
I hope a season 4 of deadliest warrior gets comfirmed I didn't missed an episode.
strings86 1 month ago
this is a horriblwe comparison....the only thing you can compare is there gear...you cant guess who would win seriously with out actualy compareing real teams of operators
petawawa1 1 month ago 9
@petawawa1 Make sure you spell correctly before you criticize me so that I can take you seriously. And if you ever heard of Deadliest Warrior the show, you would know that it is possible. They have already had the Israeli Commandos and Navy SEALS face off
BlueTeamTV 1 month ago
@BlueTeamTV deadliest warrior is cancled.
icebatofvalikinRRBZ8 1 month ago
@BlueTeamTV
JTF2 does not make appearances on tv. There would be no-one to ask about the training since no-one would come forward and say "Hey im a retired JTF2 operator film me for national TV???" JTF2 is one of the most secrete task forces in the world privacy is one of their top priority's so Peta is right. There would be no real way to compare the two....
TheIEdit 1 month ago
@BlueTeamTV do you trust every stupid tv show? to believe that everything on tv is true you must be ignorant and close minded.i was only implying that its hard to judge two highly secretive organisations when you don't know 1 eighth of the stuff they have done.and im sorry that my last comment was not grammatically correct
petawawa1 1 month ago
@BlueTeamTV wow and you actually think this show is credible?
TheEmarbe 1 month ago
@BlueTeamTV and that was bull shit I have no idea why the commandos brought the weapons they had when Israel produces some of the best gear for the soldier, why would the SEALs win, oh wait its an american show duh
TheSuperdirty30 1 month ago
@BlueTeamTV that show is also full of shit to so i do have to agree with petawawa to a certain degree special since Canada trains the S.A.S in diving and water things like that
TheTemplarnight 1 month ago
@BlueTeamTV Its just for entertainment if you didnt realize that yet. American teenagers dont want to see americans losing so obviously they will always win in us television.
DenverYellowStone 1 month ago
@BlueTeamTV The show where they invit people descendant from nation which were good in millitary welfare to use there weapon over a dummy to analize it to see who is the MOST DEAFLIEST WARRIOR EVER..
Yeah...
QCBEC 1 month ago
@BlueTeamTV
The show is OK, but it's really all supposition, based on best guess scenarios. A good show nonetheless, but hardly definitive I am sure you'd admit.
BunkerGearGal 1 month ago
@BlueTeamTV My Brother was in Pet for 10 years, Canadian solders Rock. I cant even think of any solder in the CAF who is trained any less then the Marines. We may be small but we are mighty. Even our Reservist are better trained then American Army.
jonnyfivem1 1 month ago 2
@petawawa1 you realy cant compare period because they both have strengths and weaknesses
Bassstylerz100 1 month ago
UK would win due to superior training SAS training is harder and almost twice as long as the canadian. Canadian sf train in canada SAS come from RMCs or Para regiment who are all trained to fight in every condition. UK SAS is the basis for almost every sf in the world and they all want to be as good as the SAS.
england930 1 month ago
@england930 ummm for one you dont know what you're talking about and without getting into it Reg Canadian forces train in more extreme weather then anything England has so before you start pulling bullshit theory's about Canadian SF training actually try to educate yourself and come back. fool.
TheEmarbe 1 month ago
@TheEmarbe I dont no what im talking about. SAS train around the world not just in one country they can deploy at a moments noticed they are trained in the same areas as canadians and some more which they dont and SAS train for longer. There is no contest or comparison between the two SAS is better
england930 1 month ago
@england930 Even the commanding general of nato forces in Afghanistan said publicly his go to team is JTF2 above all other SF.....so SAS are no way shape or form better, not by a long shot.
TheEmarbe 1 month ago
@TheEmarbe The americans and the rest of the world think SAS are better. Our enemies fear the SAS more. SAS training is longer and harder. JTF2 do not compare to the SAS try comparing to irelands special forces or Mexicos if they have any. Only US seals or spetznaz come any way near to SAS even they arent as good
england930 1 month ago
@england930 actually you are the only one who thinks that pal, you are so wrong and confused its hilarious.
TheEmarbe 1 month ago
@england930 Do you know anything about the Canadian Army.............?
ROBAIRify 1 month ago
@TheEmarbe You got that wrong i was in the Army in Canada and we train in very very hard extreme weather.....
ROBAIRify 1 month ago
@ROBAIRify so which part did I get wrong then?
TheEmarbe 1 month ago
SAS would win but by around 50 kills, they are so close in skill and class, conditioning.
Mattimo777 1 month ago