Harry Truman - hypocrisy World Peace Speech

[FRSFreeState]

President Truman's Legacy as President was ending World War II and building the tools that America and Europe needed to fight the Cold War.

[claret1970]

Truman carried out the greatest cowardly act in the history of war ! And the yanks wonder why they are hated worldwide

[WillieMills]

Harry Truman was a great man!

[Arc9er]

Yeaaah not really hipocrisy mate. it was the only way out, sadly. Japan was determined to survive at all costs. An invasion would have cost more lives than the A-bombs did. And if you look at the statistics, the regular bombings actually killed more civilians than the atomic bombings did. That's the sad reality of the end of the second world war.

[christian4ever4]

@Arc9er U know terrorists do not kill for the sake of killing. I bet U Bin Laden was thinking (Well, there seems to be no way out of western hegemony of our lands & threat to our values except by bombing any western target even innocent civilians). Bin Laden was seeking power for his country, ideology, religion..etc. Truman was seeking power for the US & the west in general. It was said: "politics is about power and power only". So, ethically I do not see any difference. It IS terrorism.

[MrMike3865]

You tell 'em Harry!



[christian4ever4]

@MrMike3865 Are you stupid ?!

[MrMike3865]

@christian4ever4 LOL no.... I think I am well read in the subject of history. I don't usually call people stupid just because they don't agree with me, so tell me why I am stupid?

[Hollandia777]

Harry Truman wasn't a human - he's anti, anti-man!

He's lis'nin' 2 the "slotsiP xeS" (while dancin' crazy pogo dance!...) xDD

[mrfuddlesby]

You gave 'em hell Harry. The little bastards deserved it! - Harlan Fuddlesby

[MikeSears100]

What a joke.

[THEBLAKSPADE]

If you want peace you indeed have to fight for it, i don't agree with war but peaceful protest will get you slaughtered, you want a tyrant out of power you go over there and kick his ass to death thats what captain planet would do.

[NavinJohnson90]

Go burn all your possessions, including your house, and take a swim in radioactive waste. Until then, you haven't earned the right to sing the praises of nuclear warfare.

Seriously, go do that. We need less nationalist sheep around. Had you all been born in Germany, you'd be talking about how Poland had it coming.

[bethpage89]

Part of Japan's strategy was convincing America that the US losses in an invasion would be enormous. It worked: The US was convinced.

[archemedes314]

Truman did the right thing. The hypocrisy is on the left, as usual.

[electricrevelations]

i live in new zealand and our country, as well as many other pacific nations, owes thier freedom to this bomb-so the guy who called truman pesimistic can fuck off, because they aren't taking into account the many positive aspects of the event, thus, being pesimistic themselves. therefore, the only hiypocrite here sir, is you.

[722erodz]

it's all an act!!!

[dahoss2x]

Truman warned the Japanese... They should have listened.

[FaggotwithaCause]

You're pretty retarded if you don't know history.

The Japanese were trying to surrender for a year before the atomic bombs and the US knew about it. Harry Truman basically used the atomic bombs to put a "hammer" on the Soviets meaning that He wanted to show that he can be ruthless whether they be innocent civilian or not. I think there's an argument that Harry Truman might have extended the war due to the atomic bombs? ; ) don't quote me on that one though.

[turnoutjim]

@FaggotwithaCause I think you got something here, good points all around. But wasn't the attack on Dresden a similar point?

[whitecopper2]

@FaggotwithaCause Are you retarded? Another one without a brain

[DeathlyReaper217]

@FaggotwithaCause

Unfortunately by that point, I think if a Japanese said 'it's raining outside', the American would have to go outside and see for himself along with a M1 Garand in hand and entire squad as back up.

Sad, that Truman continues to be judged for just this one decision. It's not the best decision but the first bomb was something that couldn't be avoided by 1945.

Truman remains the 2nd best Democratic President next to FDR.

[xinecallaw]

@dahoss2x Maybe their translator was having a bad day?

[changofsingapore]

The 2 atomic bomb on Japan is well deserve.

Japan is a Nation of beggars living under the bridge.

[mrdean2909]

i believe he was justified in droping the bomb. If not our men in uniform would have to land and fight person by person. Both women and children. Street by street town by town to bring about victory in Japan. Like the war in North and South Korea. Or Mispelled Viet Nam. Or Iraq? That is the worst and most expensive fighting. In men our men.

[FaggotwithaCause]

The Japanese were trying to surrender for a year before the atomic bombs were used; The U.S knew about it and ignored it. Those bombs were not justified; Harry Truman basically was sending a message to the Soviets. The place that was targeted wasn't even a military target.

They were even signs the Japanese were going to plan an attack on Pearl Harbor, but the U.S brushed that off and didn't believe it was going to happen. ;p

[gtimny]

@FaggotwithaCause Where do you get this crap that Japan was trying to surrender for a year?? All they had to do was what they eventually did - pick up a microphone and say "we give up" Quite the contrary when the head of the Japanese military found out after the 1st bomb was dropped that the Emperor was even considering surrender, he organized a coup which failed. He ended up committing suicide.

[DeathlyReaper217]

@gtimny

If the Japanese leaders wanted to surrender, they wouldn't have rejected the Potsdam Declaration. Blame Kantaro Suzuki, he has blood on his hand as much as anyone else.

[scarynight63]

dude you are not really from the U.S.A.

[peepeevagi]

It's a shame that the US has gone the way it has. But It's proof that Truman was a pessimistic visionary. His speeches even relate to the modern day.

Only now it's not war that holds the country in pieces, but things like homosexuality, racism and the too-corrupt government.

Maybe the reason the US sucks now is because all the great men are gone D:

[jairorbb]

harry truman uno de los criminales de guerra mas grandes de la historia

[km2711]

Truman--a man of principle..

How can one know that?

Look at the left end of the Democratic Party and many of the whackos who occupy it...

[BrightLightAtNight]

Feel free to read the atricle linked in the description of this video.

[LSDNY]

People tend to focus on Truman's dropping of the Atom bombs, but fire bombing cities was a policy he inherited from Roosevelt. The Atom bombs just made this type of destruction easier. The worst thing Truman did was take the US to war in Korea without asking Congress. He claimed he had authority because of a UN resolution. This set a precedent & every president since has intervened militarily in foreign conflicts without getting a congressional declaration of war as required by the constitution.

[comicdet]

Given the demographic one encounters herein, I am neither surprised nor disappointed that lesser men - imbeciles, all - have chosen to impugn the legacy of Harry Truman, a man whose integrity transcends probably every president that succeeded him as well as a good many that preceded him.

[VandalRoy]

Amen!

[grumpytosnowwhite]

Agreed. I do not think that the Hiroshima bombing was totally justified (not that dropping the a-bomb would always be unjustified -- it's just that the justification in this circumstance was rather iffy) but unfortunately, when Presidents make the kind of mistakes that anyone can make, people can die. The rest of Truman's presidency, especially the great Marshall Plan, shows a man who was more principled than any other modern president.

[BrightLightAtNight]

Some People are just to blind and brainwashed to get what you've said.

[brian464]

President Truman should not have sacrificed innocent lives for the "greater good" because that is how the terrorists think

[BrightLightAtNight]

That was exactly my point of this video. We cannot judge actions with double standards. It's all about ideaology. Even Nazies didn't kill for the fun of it. They did it for what they thought was the "greater good" for human kind. Terrorists also think the same way, They think they are defending themselves and striving for real peace at the end of the day.

[ppaulst]

You are making moral equivalence where none exist. The aims of the US vis-à-vis the aims of the Nazis or imperial Japan is no comparison. Truman took the right action in 45 and he is still right today.  They had false ideas of the "greater-good."

[BrightLightAtNight]

The aim of Truman was POWER.

The aim of Nazis was POWER.

The aim of terrorists was POWER.

The aim of politics IS POWER... but in different makeup in different situations.

WAKE UP PLEASE!

Truman was a terrorist. He terrorized the rulers of Japan to make them surrender by burning thousands of innocent people ALIVE.

PURE TERRORISM. PERIOD.

[dadecountyhustler305]

So whats your master plan of getting the Japaneses to surrender? While not wasting 2 million American and Japanese soldiers lives. And atleast 500,000 civilians caught in the cross fire for the invasion of Japan..... go ahead im waiting.

[TLucretiusCarus]

@BrightLightAtNight - I agree with you completely. Weapons of mass destruction were the worst thing that humankind has created since avarice. Japan was an interesting Empire then, they did in fact murder many Chinese, their soldiers raped many women in the Philippines, and destroyed many tribal cultures to create strongholds on various islands. Not to mention, they sided with Hitler to slaughter American soldiers and to bomb a base in cowardly fashion. What would have your proposed?

[austinsaxmansteve]

@BrightLightAtNight No, that's what happens in war. Japan started the war - Didn't you get the memo?

[paulusarab]

@BrightLightAtNight you are naive yes death is a tragedy but it wouldhave been stupid to fight conventionaly and let the war go on for at least 2 more years and cost at least 1 million more lives what would you have done appease them as to qoute winston churchill an appeaser is a man who feeds a crocodial hopeing he will eat him last.

[BrightLightAtNight]

@paulusarab I might be naive as you say, but I'm against burning thousands of innocent citizens for the cause of gaining political power for my nation, religion, ideology ..etc or the so called "victory". If you are pro burning thousands of innocent civilians, it up to you. But as for me, I feel better that way :)

[TroyRiver92]

@BrightLightAtNight

We sent the bomb to end the world as quickly as possible and to save American lives. All I can say is War has it's consequence.

[evilsinzy]

@BrightLightAtNight

Japan killed about 10,000,000 people! Why ignore that? The 2 bombs killed 90,000 to 150,000.

No, they didn't deserve to die. But they were voluntarily supportive of the cowards that bombed Pearl Harbor. Their leaders failed them, the USA gave them the option to surrender. It took 2 nukes in militarized cities, then several more days before they would surrender their military. We didn't want their nation, we didn't want to take them over. We want all people to be free.

[MrJohanasBilderberg]

@BrightLightAtNight

And the next brutal dictator to occupy your pathetic country will thank you for being a left wing pacifist.

[TroyRiver92]

@BrightLightAtNight

Your a luny.

[ltkhokie1]

@BrightLightAtNight Youre a fucking idiot.

[whitecopper2]

@ltkhokie1 You're an idiot! BL@N is right. Plain & Simple - Harry Truman was a man of solid conviction and a patriot. He couldn't care less if you hated him or thought he was a terrorist; your father or grandfather (depending how old u r) appreciated what he did and probably saved your ungrateful life by saving their's. You wouldn't be here if Harry T didn't do it! You should be thanking and singing his (Harry Truman's) praises you idiot; you wouldn't be here if it weren't for him.

[ltkhokie1]

@whitecopper2 what? Don't you mean BL@N is an idiot? I never said anything bad about harry truman, he did you dumbass

[whitecopper2]

@ltkhokie1 I think you're right; I got you mixed up with another guy's comments. Apologies...not because you called me a "dumbass", but because I can admit when I'm wrong. I'm just ready to defend one of the most simplistic, common-sense, truthful presidents ever to take office albeit misdirected.

[iammrchamp]

@BrightLightAtNight what about the millions that died causing those thousands to be forced to die? Civilians shouldn't be killed no matter what, but let's not forget that millions died, not thousands.

[clevelandhighschool]

@BrightLightAtNight He wanted to end World War II. How is he a terrorist? He didn't install fear into the Japanese so he can obtain a political advantage. It was outlined in the Potsdam Conference (with Chiang Kai'Shek, Stalin, Churchill, and Truman), basically Japan will have to surrender unconditionally. If they did not, then Truman thought that Japan will demand for other things to a greater extent.

[clevelandhighschool]

@clevelandhighschool Now with that said, Truman had two options: A. invade the mainland Japan with an additional causality of one million just for United States along OR B. the use of atomic bomb. The dropping of atomic bombs and ground zero are horrible, we all know that. But if not the causalities of war will be on a far greater scale. If you were Truman and you had these two options (since Japan conditional surrender is not viable due to Potsdam Conference), what would you pick?

[revol85]

Fuck you and your fucking american peace

[ppaulst]

Wow! You are so clever.

[clnmyjts]

Trman was a simple man...I would bet he was used by puppet masters on the planet... but you right..he made the call.. When you look at who he was, you almost have to ask was he placed a Pres. by the worlds puppet master to pull the trigger for them.. I think that could be the situation..

[SmugDarkLoser]

@brian464 except his mindset was that it'd prevent more lives from being lost...

[TroyRiver92]

@brian464

If you are talking about the Atomic Bomb. He did that to end the war quickly as possible and to save American Lives. It is war and that what war brings.

[comedykid15]

my head just fucking exploded

[wrangler22202]

Well, Zany and Josh. If there were no threats from dictators in the world, I would agree with you. Truman was the last Democrat with whom I can largely agree.

[CharlesVariations]

Truman-The last president, and maybe the only president, to tell the truth and nothing but the truth. (And no, don't help me god.)

[kidqueens2]

Possibly the greatest President. Good Post.

[jtnoodle]

anyone notice Patton to the left in the last second of the vid?

[mc0558]

Truman had a tremendous idealism that most people just didn't pick up. He believed in peace, democracy, freedom and the market system restrained by devotion to public service. He was for the working man and not the rich.

He had confidence that this world which FDR and he had tried to create would be the way out of the Cold War too. Faced with this dynamic strength, the frozen terror that Stalin called Socialism-cum-Communism would simply collapse of its own contradictions. And he was right!

[missinghome456]

fight for peace. that is a contradiction in himself.

He is responsible for the biggest human tragedy in the world.

[ZanyAnton]

Fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity.

[bobbollu]

@ZanyAnton so we sit back and let dictatorships like Russia and Germany rule the world??

[ZanyAnton]

@bobbollu America is an inviable dictatorship. Tell me the last time the people had something to say in your country. Which also wages war on poorer countries and benefits financially on it. It's corrupt, just like the Roman Empire was and all the great empires have been.

[xinecallaw]

@ZanyAnton I have never heard that comparrison. Very accurate!

[BarneyFife82]

Givem' Hell Harry.... One of America's Greatest Presidents!!

[BrightLightAtNight]

You're right BarneyFife82

He's the best man to give us hell, for I guess NOW he is the most acquainted with it ... LOL

[Dramphooey]

To quote Truman, "I never gave anybody hell. I just told the truth and they thought it was hell."

[dave98503]

Bush thinks he will be vindicated because historians have given Harry Truman a thumbs up on his presidency. You historians are assholes...as an example...what about the 1000s that died in hurricane katrina...maybe one of them would have a cure for cancer? And honestly...do I want the world to be better a 1,000 years from now? A tourist from Alabama going on a trip to Mars will be banging the stewardess, not "thanking" us or Bush, for defeating terrorism.

What is important is the here and now.

[gtimny]

to HTGoodness: BULLSHIT!

[HTGoodness]

J. Pilger writes in his article "The lies of Hiroshima live on, props in the war crimes of the 20th century": "The most enduring lie is that the atomic bomb was dropped to end the war in the Pacific and save lives. "Even without the atomic bombing attacks," concluded the United States Strategic Bombing Survey of 1946, "air supremacy over Japan could have exerted sufficient pressure to bring about unconditional surrender and obviate the need for invasion...

[HTGoodness]

Based on a detailed investigation of all the facts, and supported by the testimony of the surviving Japanese leaders involved, it is the Survey's opinion that ... Japan would have surrendered even if the atomic bombs had not been dropped, even if Russia had not entered the war and even if no invasion had been planned or contemplated."

[HTGoodness]

...The National Archives in Washington contain US government documents that chart Japanese peace overtures as early as 1943. None was pursued. A cable sent on May 5, 1945 by the German ambassador in Tokyo and intercepted by the US dispels any doubt that the Japanese were desperate to sue for peace, including "capitulation even if the terms were hard"...

[HTGoodness]

...Instead, the US secretary of war, Henry Stimson, told President Truman he was "fearful" that the US air force would have Japan so "bombed out" that the new weapon would not be able "to show its strength". He later admitted that "no effort was made, and none was seriously considered, to achieve surrender merely in order not to have to use the bomb"...

[HTGoodness]

...His foreign policy colleagues were eager "to browbeat the Russians with the bomb held rather ostentatiously on our hip". General Leslie Groves, director of the Manhattan Project that made the bomb, testified: "There was never any illusion on my part that Russia was our enemy, and that the project was conducted on that basis."...

[HTGoodness]

...The day after Hiroshima was obliterated, President Truman voiced his satisfaction with the "overwhelming success" of "the experiment".

(- J.Pilger)

So, was "President Harry S. Truman, without a doubt, the greatest leader of the first half of the 20th Century"? My votes go much rather for people like Gandhi.

[Dramphooey]

Oh, people like Gandhi? Religious extremists are what are tearing apart of the 21st century. He wanted India primitive and worshipping cows instead of eating them. The secular Nehru led India to independence, not Gandhi.

[HTGoodness]

Peace, yeah right. I don't think he even knew what that word meant. Nor words such as 'free', 'liberty', or 'development'. This is another example of his opportunistic deception, just like his 'point four' in his speech on 20 January 1949. (See eg. Rist: The History of Development, p.70-72)

[phineastbuster]

HTGoodness

For someone who appears to have a deep philosophical understanding of life from the videos you support, I was very disappointed in this mundane response.

President Harry S. Truman was, without a doubt, the greatest leader of the first half of the 20th Century.

He was an innate leader, not having the advantage of a Harvard Education but driven by his inter self.

Your reference point has little, if any relevance. I am disappointed in your response.

[HTGoodness]

The text I mentioned reveals clearly his hypocracy and opportunism about 'his' idea of bringing prosperity to the world. Which was first of all not his idea - though he claimed otherwise and secondly nothing but a respond to the so called threat of communism (Poverty and Development into the 21st Century, eds. Allen & Thomas, p.6)).

[HTGoodness]

...And how can you call people free, if they are persecuted by their political views? Is repression freedom? Chomsky writes in Language and Responsibility (p.28): "One can trace the postwar repression to security measures initiated by Truman in 1947, and efforts by Democratic liberals to discredit Henry Wallace and his supporters at that time." Wallace as you may know should have become the President after Roosevelt, but he didn't seem to fit within the limits of freedom...

[HTGoodness]

I find it ludicrous for him to talk of peace as a leader of one of the superpowers in the cold war. 'We're not fighting for the conquest.' Oh yeah? Also considering the two atomic bombs he gave the permission to drop in Japan, the atomic tests, the Korean war, Truman doctirne...

About the people 'on the top': "It should be remembered that this was shortly after President Truman had killed a grand jury investigation of the oil cartel..." (Chomsky, Towards a New Cold War p.409).

[phineastbuster]

HTGoodness

Here we go again with this bunk about "Fat Man" and "Little Boy". This one gut wrenching and heroic act, saved millions of lives, both Japanese, American and others.

If Truman had a fault, it was not going in to win the war in Korea. The people of North Korea would have been so much better off if we had defeated them outright. As proof, look at the repression and their standard of living.

[phineastbuster]

HT Goodness

FDR didn't like Truman and had no respect for him because he was not a "eastern gentleman" and without a college education. FDR's handlers knew FDR was very ill and wouldn't live out his 4th term. They disliked Wallace.

[phineastbuster]

HTGoodness

The USA and President Truman did more for the benefit of our defeated enemies than anyone in the history of the world, particularly Japan.

[HTGoodness]

Yes, that's the myth of a 'good war' they've put out to justify a mass murder, which was actually an atomic bomb test and a showcase of the US military power. There's no altruisim - what so ever - in that!

[phineastbuster]

HTGoodness

I am starting to believe your comments that are based on a lack of all logic are really much more deep seeded. I know Finland's history and ties to Russia. Are your family members Russians and hence, your dislike for America?

[HTGoodness]

I have nothing against Americans, nor Russians for that matter. And no, I haven't got any Russians in my family. And there's nothing wrong with my logic, as I've given pretty good reasons for my arguments. Haven't seen any from you. So, please if you can't invent any better arguments against me, except 'antiamericanism' don't bother to comment on my logic.

[phineastbuster]

HTGoodness

You can build a case that I believe is flawed and I can build a case that you believe is flawed. Sometimes you have to settle for agreeing to disagree.

[ladyligeia77]

Hypocrisy? If we do not fight, then what? Do we live in a world of peace as a conquered and forceably converted nation into Nazism? IF we fit their racial, ethnic, physical and sexual standards....clearly Truman is no hypocrite, you're simply blinded.

[enchantedMALE]

LoL, hypocrisy at it's best!

>>We are fighting for peace!

ROFLMAO, if US wants peace then stop mucking around with the rest of the world. Then you will have peace. In another Truman Video I saw he says God gave the Bomb to them, hahahaha, perhaps the same God who said "love thy neighbour eh!" Gotta luv these hypocrits...

[JimNuccio]

A country does not try to surrender. It surrenders or it does not surrender.

[ladygagafan]

Harry Truman is my favorite democrat.

[friendlyjun]

Harry Truman was one of the best presidents ever

[BrightLightAtNight]

A hypocrite ...

And hypocrites are those who justify killing thousands of innocent people and poor villagers!

Ok let us then seek all kinds of justifications for all other terrorists! For they all claim to have a "good purpose".

They all claim to terrorize for the sake of justice, punishment of aggressors, or "saving more lives"!!

Oh ... sorry .. I've forgot .. they are not Americans nor Israelis!

[SatchmoSings]

Truman was an awful blister of a speaker whenever he had to READ a speech, however whenever he would just SPEAK, he was a very, very fine speaker with a solid, highly effective, straight-forward eloquence.

You can say what you wish about the United States; Harry Truman despite his outward "ordinariness" was a man who was highly literate, thoughtful and of great personal courage and personal conviction.

Anyone that ever worked with him held him in the highest esteem.

[dlunasplato]

Go back and check your history. Get a graduate degree and you may understand whay he is saying.

[manunited26]

you people who say they tried to surrender r historically dumb Truman asked them to surrender 2 times they never tried to they said no and even after the bombs where dropped there was still an attempt to force the emperor to not surrender by part of there military don't try spreading lies as truth and Truman was one of the best presidents we ever had

[manunited26]

the lies of a few hundred thousand people is nothing to the price of the estimated 12million Japanese that would have been killed as well as hundreds of thousands of US troops

[VandalRoy1]

erjoly: you need to do your homework. Read the Pulitzer prize winning book "Truman" by David McCollough. It is objective and addresses HST's judgment in small and large matters. You will not be surprised why he is considered one of America's greatest presidents.

[dave98503]

Screw Truman.

Second

worst President

we ever had.

I would have voted for

Dewey.

[bjmage]

How can you say Truman is our second worst president? He almost single-handedly recovered our economy. He ended WWII. Contained communism. Desegregated the military. Helped form NATO (and the UN, but that's not been as successful). Do some research on him, and figure out why he's consistently ranked as one of our top 10 presidents.

[dave98503]

Screw Truman.

Second

worst President

we ever had.

I would have voted for

Dewey.

[erjoly]

Oh, yeah...real peaceful president.

Killer of Japanese by way of 2 nuclear bombs; after the Japanese tried to surrender TWICE.

Truman is rotting in hell.

[BrightLightAtNight]

You are right

I uploaded this video just to show hypocrisy beyond imagination!

Now some idiot might come up and try to justify the unjustifiable.

[bjmage]

You realize that by not dropping the bomb, the US and Allies would have been forced to invade Japan? The Japanese, in the mindset of the time, would never have surrendered. MILLIONS of Japanese would have died, and hundreds of thousands of Allied troops as well. It's unfortunate the war started in the first place, but I'd take the deaths of a couple hundred thousand, over the deaths of millions.

[yodawg45767]

When did Japan try surrrender twice? Truman had to make a decision about whether to drop the bomb or invade. If he was such a murderer why didnt he invade China during Korea.

[erjoly]

Simple. Imperialist + capitalist = war profiteer. The Chinese who were defending Korea were bombed by the US from Aug 27-November 10, 1950 this was all a part of Truman's Cold War. In November, the Chinese counter-attacked from the North, NW, and West. Since Russia was an ally of China, Russia also threatened to do the same. What happens when a bully keeps bullying you? You fight back. Truman feared that the Russians would fight back, and that the US could look like Hiroshima in the end.

[uFiredragon]

China and North Korea started the Korean War by attacking South Korea. Truman went via UN, got clearance and sent in help.

[bjmage]

You realize that by not dropping the bomb, the US and Allies would have been forced to invade Japan? The Japanese, in the mindset of the time, would never have surrendered. MILLIONS of Japanese would have died, and hundreds of thousands of Allied troops as well. It's unfortunate the war started in the first place, but I'd take the deaths of a couple hundred thousand, over the deaths of millions.

[BrightLightAtNight]

My friend, don't believe what politicians say. Politics and war is all about greed, power, money and world domination. America is repeating the same mistake over and over again. Now millions of Iraqis were killed for inaccurate assumptions.

[erjoly]

Which part of my post were you unable to understand? Japan tried to surrender TWICE.

Truman started the Cold War. Read the Marshall Plan. Truman started the CIA--look up OPERATION PAPERCLIP...you think it was ok to give complete immunity to over 200 NAZIS...luxury homes to them here in America and JOBS???

Get an education. Stop being a fucking moron.

[yodawg45767]

your the fucking moron. Better to have the scientists on your side. They probably werent nazis just Germans, you idiots and your conspiracy theories.

[erjoly]

Ah yes...the "let's call an historical fact a conspiracy theory, retort."

FACT: In 1998 there was a congressional hearing that asked for all classified CIA files dating back to that period (1947), be released to the public. Among the files requested were those involving Nazi War criminals employed by the CIA through Project Paperclip.

[erjoly]

FACT: Project MK-ULTRA was first brought to wide public attention in 1975 by the U.S. Congress, through investigations by the Church Committee, and by a presidential commission known as the Rockefeller Commission. Investigative efforts were hampered by the fact that CIA Director Richard Helms ordered all MK-ULTRA files destroyed in 1973.

[erjoly]

FACT: The Deputy Director of the CIA revealed that over thirty universities and institutions were involved in an 'extensive testing and experimentation' program which included covert drug tests on unwitting citizens 'at all social levels, high and low, native Americans and foreign. Their drug of choice? LSD

[erjoly]

FACT: In 1953, Dr. Frank Olson, a chemist with the Army's top secret Special Operations Division, throws himself out of a Manhattan hotel window dying on impact. According to the government's version of events, as part of the MKULTRA mind control experiments, Olson was dosed with LSD without his knowledge, subsequently suffering severe paranoia and a nervous breakdown.

[erjoly]

The CIA sent him to New York to see one of their psychiatrists, who recommended that Olson be placed into a mental institution for recovery. It was ruled a suicide despite evidence to support that there was a struggle before he plunged to his death.

[erjoly]

FACT: Secretary of Defense James Forrestal died a very similar death in 1949.

[uFiredragon]

Not an optimal solution I agree. However what the heck was he going to do then? - Let stalin continue executing political enemies? Annekt new stats? ...

[yodawg45767]

give me a link to those files

[erjoly]

Fact: CIA and nuclear annihilation apologists like you are simply luciferian subjects designed to intimidate and "demoralize" the voice of reason in the world. You and your demonic cabal will fail. DEATH TO THE NEW WORLD ORDER!

[uFiredragon]

Marshall Plan was fu-ing brilliant.

[uFiredragon]

Japan sneak-attacked Pearl Harbor. They comitted genocide in Nanking and got a nice capitulation offer (Potzdam). They refused. It even said that immense destruction would follow did they not surrender. Sadly it seems not until people get to taste the bad medicin themselves do they understand the cost of war.

That can be said about the Americans of today also, sadly...

[berrygoodstuff]

He was the best in my lifetime. Where the hell are they now besides muck raking? Baffoons in the White House - which makes me question the baffoons that voted for him.

[colonicvillus]

a soldier at 30, a father at 40, a senator at 50, a president at 60...

[oldsteinar]

We need another Harry S. Truman today. Read my story and tribute. Clarence Jones, Grandpa.

[VandalRoy1]

Right on!

[erjoly]

We need another Truman like we need another Hitler.

[JohnSFlushing]

I believe that Harry Truman is guilty of first-degree murder because of what happened in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. I think that it would have been perfectly fair if he received a lethal injection for what he did.

[kidqueens2]

We would still be fighting that war today if he did not bring it to a close. They did not know the effects.

[brian464]

Japanese had limited objectives in the war; to secure resources denied to them by the allied embargo and then to fight a defensive war in order to obtain a negotiated peace; so in other words, we would not be fighting the japanese today since the japanese only wanted to secure resources denied to them and to maintain their control over indo china and china

[Vstrat0]

Oh my, Eisenhower was 100% right!!!

Look at all the revisionists on here, having a field day!!

Japan had limited objectives!!!

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what have you been reading?????????

[jtoms3]

Sorry to say, but the Japanese were not the victims. Their involvement throughout the whole affair was of their own making. They also committed numerous attrocities including the Bataan death march and the Palawan Massacre where POW's were doused with gasoline and set on fire. With estimates of 250,000 to 500,000 casulaties if we invaded the Japanese mainland, the bomb was an unfortunate but necessary end to the war. Harry Truman was a great American and a great President.