Shuai Jiao - Demo

[MrEdium]

Shuai jiao is amazing. China of "Old" used it to train it's Royal Guards. Unlike now where Krav Maga rules. The main difference is that Shuai Jiao can be practices with full force using only minor changes. Krav Maga cannot do this, for fear of "deadly techniques" {where did we hear THAT before}. To me this is still the best "H2H" system on the market. Remember that Col. Rex Applegate, Capt.W.E. Fairbairn & Inspector Eric Anthony Sykes & Charles Nelson all studied Mongolian & Chinese Wrestling.

[johnwang46]

All his life, he was afraid of ghost and dog because his killing and also his bad experience with dogs when his undercover was exposed and was arrested by The governor 龍雲(Long Yun) of the 四川(Si Chuan) province.

[johnwang46]

... but I've never heard of him KILLING anyone...

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GM Chang was the number one assasin for the head of Chinese Intellegence Bureau

戴笠(Dai Li). His job was to get close to Chinese military generals (such as 白崇禧(Bai Chong Xi), 龍雲(Long Yun), ..., collected information, if he could find any evidence that military general had any connection to the communist party member, GM Chang needed to kill that general ASAP.

[wesker1236]

常勝將軍 常東昇.....在中國摔跤界裡沒有一個人可以超越他

[parlachinchilla]

this martial art Shuai Jiao its much better and efective than aikido , for me

[codydalla]

beat your snake? did you seriously just say that? xD

who says that?! thats just... like... wow xD so random

annd..... yup :P i rewatche the video and changed my mind. it doesnt suck it just only has 3 moves. grabbing, tossing, and tripping :D

and in my opinion, theres nothing wrong with tripping xD

[codydalla]

from what iv seen... this art sux dick. all u do is toss the person ur fighting. no actual fighting

[smokinthepot]

@codydalla what do you do beat your snake for training? shioi jiao is a grappling takedown style.

[TheSATTTT]

It's funny how the comments on any martial arts video on Youtube quickly turn into the kind of poisonous debate that would make JW's and midwife proponents cringe.

[SuperTutorialKing]

Awesome!

[chihlitiger]

The origins of Japanese Jujitsu has been known since early Tokugawa period. At least 2 schools of Jujitsu are Chinese origin: Yoshin Ryu and Kito Ryu, in which Jodokan Judo comes from.

[MarkRocchio]

Forget about the chicken-egg arguments. Has anyone noticed the strength and vitality of the old guy? (no disrespect intended) Forget about splitting hairs between Shuai Jiao, Judo and Ju Jitsu and follow the "example teachings" of Chang Tung Sheng.

[Godsmasher22]

I'm unsure if this could be the case. Judo throws are vastly more useful, fucntional and effective than Shuai Jiao. Judo may have some throws that trace their origin back to chinese systems, however Jigoro Kano simply distilled the messy Jujitsu of his day to the most effective techniques, while also introducing better training methods for affecting their application. For throws with a jacket (gi) there really is nothing better than judo.

[twohooves]

Shuai Chiao throws were developed for the battlefield. Judo was developed from Jiu Jitsu, which in turn was developed from Shuai Chiao. The Shuai Chiao throws, although seen using the jacket here, are not all based on using it.

[singhakabuttar]

dont forget that this all stems back to indian wrestling(kushti), which is the ancestor to all grapling arts.

[6arcsn1sky]

@singhakabuttar Grappling arts actually existed in Mesopotamia and Egypt.

[jeffdoeskungfu]

@singhakabuttar Any civilization is capable of creating their own grappling arts without Western or religious influence. Kids do it without instruction instinctively. Wrestling is a tradition found in all cultures on every continent, except maybe Antarctica. With no disrespect to Indian grappling arts, you can't possibly reasonably assert that all countries just waited around until some dude from India came to teach them martial arts.

[singhakabuttar]

@jeffdoeskungfu theres a difference between kids grappling, and wrestling/grappling skill, if you're gonna make a comment at least make it a decent one. and who the fuck mentioned anything about religion?

[jeffdoeskungfu]

@singhakabuttar Sorry you got all butt-hurt by a late-night YouTube comment.

[singhakabuttar]

@jeffdoeskungfu no one got butt hurt!!! so don't let your imagination run wild.

[shuaiguy]

Your statement is short sighted with bias.For one shuai chiao has a component for jacket work where you learn to use the jacket for throwing and removing grips from the oppent.There is not a throw in judo or ju jitsu that you do that I do not do in shuai chiao.I can gain ground position with every throw I do in shuai chiao that you do I can gain a submission from a position from a throw that you do in a cleaner and more efficent manner

[romulux7]

@shuaiguy watch dave camarillo judo/jiu jitsu black belt he gets ground control after the throw always for armbar.guerilla jiu jitsu

[tearo]

GRAPPLING SUPERIOR TO STRIKING :)

[lohkvongoethe]

Although working against a low kicker with good biu ji can be very frustrating.

[tearo]

..What's Biu Ji?lol

[TheMyns]

@tearo wing chun trusting fingers .

[ilope012]

Judo's daddy

[marcusorilius]

No, Judo's Grandfather :)

Judo's Daddy is Japanese Jujutsu (fact), which had roots in Shuai Jiao (theory). Does anyone have an actual source for this?

[Godsmasher22]

Actually not so. Judo is the brainchild of Jigoro Kano and, while a compilation of of the best of the disparate Japanese Jujitsu arts, is really made brilliant by Kano's organization of the material into an intelligent curriculum. There is also the wonderful training methods which, which presage many modern sports ideas, including free sparring, or randori.

[Jenfucius]

This is a very nice style of shuai jiao!

[freddiego60]

looks simple but deadly

[WrestlingKingTV]

AWESOME

[theshadowboy607]

rezpect

[ReijiTaro]

It's a shame Chang Thung Sheng died the way he dead. May the Flying Butterfly always be remembered. I can't believe I didn't go look for this clip earlier.

[laoZchin]

how did he die?

[Sabre809]

Chang Thung Sheng was diagnosed with cancer of the esophagus. Even though he got medical treatment his condition gradually worsened until he finally passed away. Shame he did good for his age.

[silentbob1]

Well, yes, Jiu Jitsu can actually be traced directly to a 16th century chinese Shuai Jiao master who made a school in Japan, however, the Chinese only invented rice noodles. The Italians came up with European style wheat pasta on their own, and didn't get it from China.

[blutobelushi]

the greatest master...EVER...

[MagnusZero]

truest comment...EVER! lmao

[VooDooMadMan]

To guys above... u rely don't know about BJJ nothing. Gracie and his fighting style... simply own all Shuai Jiao fighters. And i don't have nothing to tradition of this beautiful style but i see fights of both and BJJ is better.

[consp51]

BBJ may be great on Single vs Single ground match. Lets see Gracie doing it at the age of 75. he will be out speed /power by someone much younger. Arts like those survived centuries wars just far superior.

[MysticNinjaJay]

Helio Gracie, the Grandmaster of BJJ, is 94 and he can still roll. Jiu-Jitsu is centuries old as well. It was invented on the battlefields by the Samurai. Those throws are very similar to Judo, a sport that evolved from Jiu-jitsu. BJJ is more street fight oriented but you can adapt any useful technique to real fighting. The Chinese army train in a fighting system and combat sport known as Sanda/San Shou. They use throws derived from Shuai Jiao.

[silentbob1]

Ahem... actually, Jiu Jitsu comes from Shuai Jiao. While Jiu Jitsu was used by the samurai, they did not invent it. In the 16th century, a Chinese Shuai Jiao master made a school in Japan. His students went on to modify his style and make it into Jiu Jitsu. It's not like this is a secret in Japan, the Japanese openly acknowledge it.

[MysticNinjaJay]

That's not true. Jiu Jitsu does not derive from a distinct school. Grappling techniques have existed in Japanese combat systems for centuries predating the 1500s. There are Chinese influences on many Japanese Martial Arts but the origins and development of most styles are mainly indegenious. If you disagree provide a source for your claim about Jiu Jitsu deriving from Shuai Jiao.

[silentbob1]

From "The Secret Arts of Chinese Leg Manouevres".

"In about 1558, one of the [Chinese] patriots by the name of Chan Yuan-bin sailed to Japan and took refuge in the Shyo-koku Monastery, Bushiu Edo (today's Tokyo), where he openly taught the arts of "go-ti", "Chin Na" and the use of weapons. His apt pupils were: Miura Yoshitatsu, Fukuno Masakatsu and Isokai Jiro Saemon.

Later on, Miura Yoshitatsu... was named as the founder of Jujitsu."

From "The Secret Arts of Chinese Leg Manouevres".

[silentbob1]

Oh, and Go-Ti basically another word for Shuai Jiao, while Chin-Na is a similar Chinese martial art, that has mixed and blended with Shuai Jiao.

[MysticNinjaJay]

Interesting...is this a direct quote from the book? If so I'd like to know the page number.

I can only find one online source who credits the students of Chan Yuan-bin(or Chen Yen Pin) with founding "Jiu Jitsu". I can't find any info on this "Shyo-koku" Monastery but "Jiu Jitsu" is a general term for various grappling disciplines that developed in Japan as early as the 14th century. It wasn't commonly used until the 17th century.....

[MysticNinjaJay]

...I've never heard of a Jiujitsu school claiming the art derived from one specific school let alone the students of Chan Yuan Bin in 1558. There were certainly Chinese influenced on some Japanese Martial Arts and styles but the development of Jiujitsu was mainly indegenious.

[jeffdoeskungfu]

@silentbob1 Is this book available online?

[neometalx9]

@silentbob1 so jiujitsu comes from chinese?

[TaipeiDawg]

The Japanese are historically known for borrowing from other cultures and putting their unique stamp on it. Look at the Japanese written language - the kanji characters were completely borrowed from China. They developed the hiragana and katakana systems to supplement since the characters didn't exactly fit the spoken language. Many of the pronunciations were taken directly from Chinese - the examples are too numerous to list here. Certainly there was a lot of borrowing occuring back in the day.

[givebeesachance]

Rofl you walked right into that one.

[michaelroyburke]

lol...you "rely don't know about JJJ nothing".  I don't believe that kullavan's comment had anything to do with BJJ.

[VooDooMadMan]

Ok... like i see you guys just throw me and tear me apart into small pieces only 'cos i have my own theory. MysticNinjaJay give more of my point of view at this... Just sorry and one more thing. I love all of martial arts and Im not a some BJJ pro to. But i just think in this demo or similar situation 'one to one' BJJ is more effective. Respect...

[ayotechnology5050]

respect

[stardingo747]

that old man makes it look so easy.

[xiaoxiao19]

If brazilian jujitsu fighter such as Grace fight that shuai jiao master (Chinese wrestling),I am pretty sure that Grace would lose a few seconds.

[silentbob1]

Well, obviously, because well... Grand Master Chang KILLED people with his Shuai Jiao, literally and on purpose. Not that I'd know for sure, but I doubt that Gracie ever killed anyone with his Jiu Jitsu.

[MysticNinjaJay]

Chang was a Martial Arts instructor for the Chinese Army during the 2nd Sino-Japanese War and World War II, but I've never heard of him KILLING anyone. He "tested" his skills in competitions and sparring. It's not like he was involved in Nazi style experiments in which POWs were killed in demonstrations of lethal Martial Arts techniques, though I wouldn't be surprised if things like that happened. The Gracies fought in Vale Tudo matches and street fights. They didn't kill anyone either, AFAIK.

[silentbob1]

No,no, I don't mean like that, I mean during actual battles. I didn't mean that he randomly massacred people, lol.

[nifka72]

Michael,where do you live in North Carolina?I live in Asheville and practice Shuai Chiao.

[michaelroyburke]

I can see many Judo like moves here, and I'm sure there was a great influence on the Japanese jujutsu arts Judo emerged from this kind of Chinese art.

If anybody is aware of this style art being instructed around the southeast USA I would appreciate to know.

[hkdharmon]

Trying to name the throws here with jujitsu names

Uchi Momo Harai

Sasae Ashi (sorta)

Soto Gama

Soto Momo Harai

Osoto Gama

Ushiro Goshi (sorta)

Uchi Momo Harai (again)

Sasae Ashi

[wkfung108]

A guy named David Lin teaches out of Atlanta. Google "Combat Shuai Chiao." He's supposed to be an absolute badass.

[michaelroyburke]

I really enjoyed seeing this demo. I'm a judo student from North Carolina, USA. I love to see wrestling, grappling, throwing arts from different cultures.

Judo is whats available in my area, but it is very nice to see this great display of technique.

[silentbob1]

It's nice to see someone who can look at a martial art that they don't practice and still respect it and see the good technique.

Kudos to you.

[josecarlos1955]

Excellent work, Master Chang was amazing even at an advanced age.

[josecarlos1955]

Excellent, thanks for posting. The Master will be missed by many.

[nifka72]

Anyone got any info on the Gene Chicoine/Ho Chun and the connection with GM Chang?

[AbsolutePizza]

Chicoine was a student and eventually adopted son (disciple) of Changs. He is recognized as the Grandmaster of Shuai Chiao and president of the International Shuai Chiao Association. He still teaches at Ho Chun in Akron, OH and can usually be found there several days a week.

[blackjamm]

Shuaijiao is bad ass. I love this. I've been using some traditional shuaijiao training methods for years, and I'd like to learn from a good teacher when I'm in ROC.

[manwivoutplan]

supreme respect to Great-Grandmaster. rest in peace.

[pecsicsabesz]

Tank you for posting this.And looking forward to seeing more from this exceptional figure of martial arts....