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  • @beefliver That why you should support HCR becuz it's cheaper to pay for doctors now than emergency rooms later

  • @beefliver If u think Emergency care is cheaper than preventive med or primary care, than u don't know how the system works. BTW everytime someone uninsured goes to the ER (even before HCR) you (&your kids) are paying for it

  • @beefliver wow 9 months later a response. of course the constitution gives right sto build roads (that was the point of my comment).equally it also lets the gov tax you for not having health care. that's why HCR is legal and will stand. teabaggers who make that lame argument don't understand the constitution

  • This guy rambles like Obama to avoid answering the question and votes with Pelosi 96% of the time. Yikes! Just another typical Liberal loser.

  • Not sure, but I honestly do not think Henry answered her comment. The bottom line is, our freedoms have officially been taken away from us. The federal government obviously thinks it knows what is best for us regardless of how we choose to freely think about things.

  • Cuellar is an asswipe like all of them.

  • Also "lordhillman" congress didn't exempt themselves, they already have a health plan through AFCSME. AFCSME is a big supporter of public option. If I had the chance to buy into gov. plan for congress I would happily oblige. Just like I would happily buy medicare insurance. And yes, I know about unisured who can pay,-I AM ONE. And let me tell you, you can't pay for broken bones or even worse APPENDICITIS out of pocket. Don't believe me? ask your local doctor or hospital how much: 15000$ and up.

  • We will not have the same plan that Congress has now. Ask your rep if he will opt out of the plan for the public option. You will not get a direct answer like Cuellar did not give to the ? that started this discussion.

    I would like to see every citizen insured, but we have bigger problems. The USA cannot afford such a big program. Medicare & Medicaid are going broke. They can't even administer Clunkers correctly and I don't want to imagine what they would do with public healthcare.

  • vz, how can you claim that anyone would be the tax payers responsibility? Do you know thier financial situation? Can you tell me how much it the average hospital fees are for say, a broken arm? How can you say most people are "ruined" by out of pocket medical bills? Where do you get your facts? Can you quote any legitimate source? Not all "uninsured" are incapable of paying thier bills. One more thing...if this bill is so wonderful and great, why did congress exempt themselves from it? hmmnn..

  • As a matter of fact I know exactly how much a broken arm costs, I had one. In 1995 it cost 8500$ now it costs 12,000$ depending on visits. To insure a healthy, non-smoker male 20-28 has doubled in costs since 1995 (average 490$ per month, source:Aetna). How can I claim that anyone would be taxpayers liability? DO U KNOW CURRENT LAW? Right now it is the law that a hospital CANNOT turn away anyone who shows up to an emergency room (even the uninsured). Who do u think pays for the care? We do!

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  • I am glad that you are secure in you financial situation to make assumptions that I will run out of money before you do..The constitution promotes the general welfare it does not provide it...anyway, The public option will not be a choice if your company decides not to carry ins. and you will be fined if you don't take the public option...And any changes to your current coverage would "un-grandfather" your policy....read the bill pages 16-17

  • Your method of paying out of pocket is HORRIBLE fiscal policy and you're lucky it didn't ruin you financially. In fact, most people are ruined by out of pocket health bills.

    If your company doesn't cover you and you don't pay for insurance YOU ARE UNINSURED, and everyone else's tax dollars pay for your services.

    How can you call yourself a teabagger and be proud of being uninsured? Tea party people hate taxes and the uninsured are paid for with tax dollars.

  • That magical bill you're reading is one of several (probably the teabaggers' handout version). Dude to think that you're anything but unbiased is ridiculous.

  • The bill version I read was from the House website. You can find it there. Again pages 16-17.

    But should the Tea Bag supporters author one, it would most likely be better than anything put out by govt to date.

    It is not bias, it is just fact.

  • You are correct, but most roads are the initial resp. of the state, county, & cities. I don't call the Fed to fix the pothole on my street.

    Choosing not to have insurance or not having it, period, does not automatically make you a liability. I didn't have ins. that cov'd maternity when I was pregnant, but I didn't rely on any federal system. I negotiated with the doc & hosp - pd out of pocket by making monthly pymnts & it didn't break me. Thank heaven we still have the freedom to disagree

  • we will alway have the freedom to disagree, that inalienable right has nothing to do with coming up with a commen sense solution to lowering Health care costs= more people insured.

  • It also doesn't say that the government should build roads or freeways in the Constitution, but I bet you use them. To stand there and be PROUD of being uninsured is just plain sad. First of all this girl is MY liability right now, if she goes to the emergency room I AM PAYING for her. Secondly she doesn't understand that if she gets hit by a car, or trips and breaks an arm, she would be ruined financially right now. And comes from a poli-sci major? ridiculous.

  • Read the ninth ("The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people") and tenth ("The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people") amendments to the Constitution. Whatever is not outlined in the Constitution belongs to the states.

  • When there is to be a healthcare reform bill to be written and passed, it should be by the states, not the federal government.

    And no, she is not your responsibility, she, as an adult is responsible for herself.

  • besides, the roads argument is irrelevant. what are we supposed to do then? drive on the sidewalks or ran through houses?

  • **ram

  • @vzproductions The US Constitution doesn't authorize roads or freeways? Read Section 8 of the US Constitution.

    You'd rather pay for millions of uninsured for the rest of your life and your children's lives and theirs than pay for those much fewer EMERGENCIES???? Where did you learn economics?

  • He didn't answer the question...Where in the constitution????

  • WTG Stephanie

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