The only reason people are attacking this video is because fags HATE hearing that homosexuality is a choice. It goes to show you how tolerant they are.
@chercherchercher Personal insults... oh boo hoo, I think I'll go cry... not. I see that you idolize cher, which clearly points out that you're an INTOLERANT fag... Yes, you're INTOLERANT of other people's opinions... Funny how you fags will preach about tolerance, and then you'll turn around and bash anyone who speaks against your filthy behavior. It reveals a lot about you, really. Filthy perverts...
So many visions! VISIONS! VISIONS! VISIONS!!! They do not even fit together! They do not collectively agree! HOW can we know who's fucking right, and who's fucking wrong? (They probably are ALL WRONG, so fuck you!!!) Mary K. Baxter, Howard Storm, Bill Weiss, Don Piper, etc, etc, etc!
Stop making videos, the plethora of cuts are going to give someone a seizure. The monochrome doesn't make it deeper, it just makes it more pretentious. Seriously, it's so bad, I don't even care about the actual content right now, please listen to me, this is not your thing. You're not the video girl that makes the little videos, you don't even have the tiniest glimmer of talent. Your video editing skill is a dark, hopeless abyss that will never turn into anything good. Please god stop now.
Just horrible film making, what you had to say was just as bad but the constant cut aways and just horrible dialogue, I don't know who your writer is but he or she needs to be fired.
Thank you for sharing the truth of how Christ can transform anyone from a life of sin to a life free from bondage. God bless you for not being ashamed of Jesus and sharing this with all of us here. I praise God for you and will keep you in my prayers.
And to anyone struggling with the context of this message, ALL have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. So don’t think anyone is picking on you, we all must repent and turn from our wicked ways if we want a more abundant life.
I see the dysfunction has not ended in your family yet. It's a charming story and how nice it ended as it did. But i don't see how the homosexuality was the destructive element here. Did you actually think that very one who's gay is tormented and doesn't want to be? The bad news is that there's a new generation hollowed out, religious poisoned minds growing up among us who will readily abdicate their morality and their reason because, well they just don't want to think too much!
Recently on the board of directors of Exodus International John Smid has decided too stop condeming gay people, and now believes that only behavior is changed not core sexual orrientation... Smid also says in his many years with Exodus he never seen anyone actually change from gay too straight. Exodus President Alan Chambers a married man, says he still struggles with same sex attractions.
.... You don't really know much about homosexuality..
You experience with it, though it has merit. I VERY one sided... You need to actually research this issue before talking about it. Get books, search the web. I myself am gay. I had such trouble with it when i was younger.. I cried and prayed and begged to not be gay.. Than, through the help of my family i discovered there wasn't anything wrong with me. I'm very happy with my life. Your experience isn't for everyone and it wont help anyone.
@mrcloudiesbestfriend Hi! I wanted to let you know, that I'm not trying to say there's something wrong with you. God loves you, he really does. But honestly, when you are home, when there's no one else around, are you truly happy? I'm not saying that because you are a homosexual, I am saying that because Like all of us, you've messed up before. Whether it was lying, cheating, stealing, looking lustfully at a person. These are all what God considers sins.
@mrcloudiesbestfriend God loves us all enough to look past our sins and forgive us. All we have to do is repent (turn away from our sin) and turn towards God. It's giving him our whole lives, and saying, "I want you to have my whole heart, without anything getting in the way." He died on the cross for all of our sins, but he would have done it just for you. because that's how much he deeply and passionately loves you. You're a beautiful and wonderful creation of God!!!
@mrcloudiesbestfriend Please just think about it. The love he has for you will never end. Just know he's always been there, and he'll never leave you or forsake. He loves you, so so much! I hope you understand I am not trying to be judgmental or condemning, I just want people to know the love of God like I do. He changed my life.
My friends, we must be careful not to "interpret" the Word of God. It is very plain. Leviticus 18:22 (KJV): "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind it is abomination.". It does NOT get much clearer than that.
Is this a joke ROFL nothing better than a good laugh mid-day & on a Friday at that...keep the videos coming maybe one day you will be famous for sitting around the house posting You Tube videos all day while I get paid to sit at my desk, watch 7 laugh =)
Thank you very much for posting this... my sister was gay for many years but had a similar experience to your mothers as you described and was rocking in solid biblical truth for 10-15 years... but she has fallen away into false doctrine and homosexuality again... with a "false jesus" that gives acceptance of it all... really wierd stuff but I hope and pray she straightens out again. I will share you vid with her. God bless and thanks again... and dont hate the haters posting, pray for them.
P.S. We all still have to learn to keep the whole Law but if we are willing to put our self to death through keep the Law we will receive Life by the power of YHWH who promised from the beginning All those who keep my Law will receive blessings,long life and my grace for I YHWH your Elohim am gracious to those who fear me and keep my Law.
YHWH judges and YHWH paid the debt we could never pay now will you forgive the debts of others and show them the same compassion as He the Righteous and Just King showed you when you could never pay your debt?
@greeneggsandzam at what point did I say thatHIV is a gay disease. But, since you are all knowing, what are the stats for the usa? Please hurry or quit infering something I never said. Thank you..
@tonynibbles I pitty you that you choose to reject your creator who sent his son to die for you so you could live for eternity. Your conscience knows this to be true.
@greeneggsandzam Yes he does. You are so right he does JUDGE. He is the just judge and I am condemed a sinner but Christ stepped in and paid my fine and the Bible says that if I repent of my sin and put my faith in the redemptive work of Christ I can be saved even though I didn't earn it and don't deserve it.
This is not a mental disorder. This is not from abuse. I am not diseased. I am not someone who needs curing.
God loves all, but we do not need to change as long as we haven't sinned. I've not sinned, just loved, loved apparently the "wrong" people.
I'm not talking about her, or how wrong I think she is, because I agree with jesussetmefree1, she shouldn't be yelled at for posting what she "thinks". I find it sad to find someone so closed minded, at such a young age.
Keep blaming it on " dysfunctional upbringing" and "abuse", etc, etc. I am sorry that your parents have warped your mind with deliberately misleading propaganda...but then Christians...aren't known for sticking to facts. Or being particularly tolerant people. I wonder what God would have to say about that?
@greeneggsandzam Are you tolerant? If you truely are then you will be able to tolerate our intolerance of sin. Jesus is the only way to God, that's what Jesus himself said. Do you also tolerate other sins such as murder and rape? You should since you think we shouldn't judge people.
@languagesongs Well, since you're such an expert you would know EXACTLY what the bible says about judgement and tolerance, including that old chestnut about casting stones. Again, you're just generalising in a very uneducated way, in fact it seems to be that you're equating homosexuality with rape and murder. Hold your tongue would be my advice, and instead of thinking that you know better than the big guy upstairs just leave it to him instead of lecturing others.
@greeneggsandzam Yep homosexuality, rape, murder, lying. stealing, not honoring your father and mother, selfishness, all of them are sins. Chapter)
8. Rev 21:8: "But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”
Yes, God is pure love. If God is pure love, then God will not have a problem with same-sex relationships. Unless i am misunderstanding this story, If the waitress Rose in the story had a husband, how did she end up with the guy she was trying to convert to Christianity ????? What happened to her husband, the girl's father??????? mmmmm.
Let us hope that this young girl obtains some education on the matter. It's unfortunate that her parents have chosen to warp such a young child into such ignorance on the matter.
@raisinhead2 Nope, not deceived, just observant. I have friends who happen to be gay. I love them dearly, but they are miserable to be around sometime because of all the drama. Sounds gay (meaning happy) to me. On a serious note, I have a friend who came out of the homosexual lifestyle. He recently found out that he is HIV positive. He will tell anyone that his lifestyle "choice" brought him nothing but sorrow. This is the same for any lifestyle that deviates from what we were designed. Blessyou
@chuckscot - I can't prove you are lying but saying all homosexuals are unhappy is quite a generalisation and a gross extrapolation from your own small sample. I don't believe for a second that homophobes like you have many gay friends.Acquaintances maybe.
"came out of the homosexual lifestyle" - what is this nonsense-speak? Did he become straight or not? Of did he just stop behaving that way? It wasn't his lifestyle that brought him sorrow but not using a condom.
@chuckscot If you were actually as observant as you say you would know that sexual orientation and a medical condition are two entirely separate things. Approximately 68% of the world's HIV-positive population are African and predominantly Heterosexual. Do more research before opining on things you don't know of, thank you.
@consumedforever - a man and a woman's body is put to various uses for the purpose sexual enjoyment that are outside the evolutionary function of that organ. Your argument is not logical.
I have to say that I admire Elizabeth and her family for their stance on this issue. I am one who repented, turned the other way, and yet still could not find freedom. It has been a long, hard road, and this video somehow gives me hope that the story is not over.
@wpd31 I will continue to pray for you too! We find Him in the midst of our weakest places. We will all struggle with our flesh and the sin nature within us. I have been grateful that God has taught me the power of the Cross. It is at the foot of the cross that I have found the greatest freedom. As I surrender my desires and fears to Him, He pours out mercy, grace and strength to overcome. Just remember: This life is a vapor. Soon we will be with Him and we will be like Him!
@magicrulz101 My husband had a different experience then me (I wrote mine just before this post). His change was a process but he also never went to an ex-gay ministry. We never even heard of people changing. For him he read 1 Cor. 6:9-10 where it talks about gay people in the city of Corinth and then it says,"such WERE some of you".He thought,"there were gay people in Corinth and if they can change, I can change too".So neither of us ever went to a group.
@magicrulz101 I (Liz"s Mom) am letting you know I never went to an ex-gay ministry. God just changed me, when I saw Him dying on a cross.In fact my homosexuality wasn't even on my mind. I walked out and my desires had changed.I told all my gay friends.I couldn't believe it.My family did accept me when I told them"I was born gay and there is nothing I can do about it".My Mom even came to the gay bar with me. I did not experience a lack of acceptance but God knew what I really needed was His love.
What your doing is so good. Your dad in heaven is proud of you! I dont know how people found this to be hateful. hey, everyone! look at it from HER perspective. Her parents found something good. They found that there IS a god, who isnt sitting in heaven waiting for you to mess up, and then condem you for it- he LOVES you and is jealous for your affection. and she sees you through HIS eyes of love and wants you to partake in the future glory in christ jesus. Dont see how thats hateful. -angela j
I am a believer. I love Jesus with all that I am. I just recently started a relationship with a woman and I love her very much. I do believe that it is a choice to love someone regardless of their gender. Elizabeth I think your video is sweet and I can see your heart behind it. The dilemma is that you speak candidly about coming out of the homosexual lifestyle as if it is an easy thing. Don't get me wrong I love the church but as soon as they heard that I had "fallen" I lost all of my relations
Most people don't try, because they're brainwashed, ahum fooled, into thinking it's not possible. So of course most people can't change, if they don't think it's even worth trying. And of course no therapy will work for a person forced into it against his will.
I've attended such a camp and let me tell you something - YOU have no idea what you're talking about. I can't wait to get videos up on this topic. I'm gonna destroy your fantasy land of ANTI- choice & moral relativism
@colinfitzp Wrong (Liz"s mom). After I changed I met tons of people, who like me have changed. I wished I would have known it sooner. I now have a family and a life I never dreamed of. Many are afraid to tell their stories because they are not accepted. I have been told off plenty of times just because I told someone I use to be homosexual. The truth is ex-gays are not allowed to tell their stories or they get shut down. There are lots out there and I hope they will put their stories on too.
@ElisabethPrep93 It's when you mimick something that you find rediculous perfectly to the point that it baits other people into getting angry at you. It's similar to trolling in that manner. A good example would be if I started making a series of creationist videos talking about the world being 6000 years old, I don't believe any of that at all but I'm sure someone would flip out on me and it would be funny.
@MOMORPIGER I know her and her parents personally. While it would be a great poe, it isn't. I know someone's word doesn't mean much on the internet these days, but you'll have to take my word for it.
I was in an abusive relationship once. My uncle used to force me to. . .wear polyester. Cotton was so much more comfortable and breathed easier, but the allure of that mix fabric blend was too much for my adolescence mind. Then someone came to me, reached out, and read to me Leviticus 19:19 when I needed it most.
". . .nor wear a garment upon you of two kinds of material mixed together."
Now I'm back to wearing cotton shirts. My gay lover can see the change in me, and we're much happier.
There is a major difference between experimenting with members of the same sex and those who are truly homosexual. Being homosexual is not just about the sexual act with a person, but also about falling in love with someone of the same sex.. Love is love regardless. Those who merely experiment for sexual gratification are the ones doing the choosing. And no, I'm not homosexual.
Also, read what you wrote about the guy "leaving his family". Can you honestly say that is a good choice? Break up the family for a selfish life choice. What it comes down to is that homosexuality is a pleasure driven selfish life CHOICE. There is nothing but pain and sorrow involved in that lifestyle that gets masqueraded with drugs and alcohol abuse only to surface as regret and sadness. I challenge you to honestly observe those of whom you know to be homosexual.
Knr911 you stated, "The world doesn't revolve around your parent's beautiful Jesus story, millions of homosexuals are living a perfectly happy life." From my experience I have never, and I do mean never, met a happy homosexual which is ironic because they use the word Gay as a label. Most gay people that I know are going through some sort of jilted lover, relationship trauma, life drama issue that makes them miserable. Sure there are pockets of seemingly happy moments that are fleeting at best.
@chuckscot "Most gay people that I know are going through some sort of jilted lover, relationship trauma, life drama issue that makes them miserable." This, coupled with all the hate, ridicule, and sometimes violence homosexuals endure only seems to further reinforce the fact that it is NOT a choice. If it WERE a choice, most people would have caved and said "screw it" and left that "lifestyle choice" behind. Living out what is really in your heart is sometimes the hardest part of life.
@chuckscot - You obviously never met many. Or you're a liar. So many lies that the world will end if gays get their way. All of which turn out to be lies. So I conclude you are a liar or else deceiving yourself that the row you overheard was evidence of 'unhappiness' when in fact straight people row too. FYI - I am happy. Geddit?
So you're equating being homosexual to being an alcoholic or addicted to drugs? Wow. You're way off. And I don't care what you've been taught or believe, being homosexual is NOT a choice, but I guess the slanted view from atop your pedestal makes it hard to see things for what they really are. All I've learned from you is that judging someone is the right way to love them. :/
@donnacole63 I made up my own mind concerning whether it's a choice or not. There are lots of things we don't choose to be, but are. And I'm not setting out to ridicule anyone. I just simply detest people judging someone else for simply being who they are. It's not like we're talking about murderers. We're talking about love. Again, homosexuality is not just about sex. It's about falling in love too. Maybe those focused simply on the sex part are the ones with the problems. . .
@Shishpow I know you may not like to hear this but I was so in love, especially with my first lover. I felt like we were so "one" but it was still wrong in God's eyes. He said "the two (a man and a woman) shall be one". He even created our bodies to show this is how it is suppose to be. I know you will be angry with this point of view and I understand. I would have been angry when I was in the midst of my relationships. It wasn't easy for me to admit that my lifestyle was not right.
@donnacole63 I'm not angry with you. I just don't agree with you. Why should being in love be wrong? Again, I'm not gay. I just have a very open heart and mind. I've had gay friends that I'm 100% sure could never change, because this is so much who they are. That is what bothers me--being condemned for being born a certain way. That's all.
@donnacole63 I'm not angry with you. I just don't agree with you. Why should being in love be wrong? Again, I'm not gay. I just have a very open heart and mind. I've had gay friends that I'm 100% sure could never change, but this was so much who they were. That is what bothers me--being condemned for being born a certain way. That's all.
@Shishpow That is not what she said. She was just simply stating that her mom was free from all those things that day. She didn't say that all homosexuals are drug addicts and drink all the time. Don't put words in her mouth she didn't say. Also you are wrong again this video was done in love. Sometimes when you love someone you have to tell them the truth even if it hurts. In the end it is better that you told them the truth of what you believe then lying.
@hedgehoghut And I didn't say that she said that "all homosexuals are drug addicts and drink all the time. " I said that she's comparing being a homosexual to being a drug addict or alcoholic. She seems very lovely and I'm sure she means well, but the "truth" she speaks of is not one I agree with. Young homosexuals have enough fear and bullying to deal with without someone pushing some propaganda onto them, making them believe that something is wrong with them when it's just not true.
I knew a 45-years old man suffering from terminal cancer. All doctors gave him 3 months. One morning, cancer was entirely gone. Doctors said it's one chance in millions. You may see this as a miracle from God. The emotional schok made him discover his homosexuality. So he left wife and children.
The world doesn't revolve around your parent's beautiful Jesus story, millions of homosexuals are living a perfectly happy life.
And no, Homosexuality is not a choice. get it into your skull.
This is a terrible story. It is like saying a man was healed of cancer and when he came out he made a discovery that he was in love with another woman so he left his wife and children to be true to himself. Would you rejoice in that story? We make commitments for better or worst. To leave your children for the lusts of your body is wrong. Once I am a parent, I am to lay down my life for my children.
When we have children, yes, I will say it again, we are to lay down our lives for them. We brought little beings in this world and they are innocent. They need stability. Did you come from a divorced family? I did. I know everything inside me wanted my mom and Dad together, though they had problems. I help kids through hurts and NO kid wants their parents divorced, though it happens all the time.
@Knr911 And it is the lusts of the body whether it is for another woman or a man. We put our desires aside once we are parents and we ARE to do what is best for our children and not for ourselves, not to mention the marriage commitments we made. We are to remain faithful for life, though many don't.
@Knr911 My husband and I have been married fro 22 years. We have had ups and downs but we made a commitment to each other and because of that we stick to our commitment and in the end our marriage and love is stronger for one another. Like the scriptures says, "The two shall become one". If I have "feelings" for someone else when married, then I need to put those aside for my marriage and in the end, my marriage WILL be stronger.
@Knr911 We have lost commitment in our society and "we" as well as our children are hurting because of it. Sorry but I will never change on this stance.
@Knr911 Just like many people say that don't believe this story. Even though her mom has a video telling her story. I don't believe you she actually has proof...now wheres your sir?
@colinfitzp So what I hear you saying is that it's ok to Bully someone as long as it's justifyable. If they are already weak we shouldn't bully them. But because she is "straight" and "white" it's ok to pick on a little girl, Do you hear yourself? #doublestandard
I don't think the LGBT community should be expected to show "tolerance" to those who equate us to druggies and alcoholics any more than the black community should be expected to show "tolerance" to the KKK and their views.
@houseofswans1 Where Is anyone equating you to druggies or alcoholics? I don't see that in this video. Did you watch some other video. (Liz's Mom, the one the stories about) Did do some drugs and alcohol and didn't do it again after I walked out of church because the deep void in my life was filled. Tom, my husband went back to those things for a period in his life. Where is anyone saying that homosexuality and the two go together?These are just our stories and none of it is tied together.
@donnacole63 at 1:00 "After that day my mom never went back to homosexuality, drugs, or alcohol." She's saying you were saved from all three at the same time by Jesus, as if they are all tied together.
@houseofswans1 All this is true.After that day I didn't do drugs, drink and I knew I wasn't gay anymore.So all three happened because they were a part of my life. If you see it the other way, help yourself but that wasn't what was meant by it. I just happened to never do these things again. I also stopped swearing.I can't explain it but I didn't talk with such profanity anymore.I did not try to stop. It was just gone. Again not tying anything together, these were just the things that happened
@houseofswans1 -Exactly. How is that so many of the stories of those who struggle with same-sex attraction also are so messed up in other ways? Drugs, abuse, alcohol. That's what I read when reading so-called ex-gay stories. There is something going on with them beyond underlying orientation.
@houseofswans1 And just so you know I wasn't a druggie or an alcoholic. You are assuming that. I drank, sometimes and I did drugs sometimes. I wasn't an alcoholic or a druggie. I just never did those things again.
@donnacole63 The bottom line is, the message of this video is that being gay is a sin that Jesus can save you from, just like abusing drugs, alcohol, and swearing are sins. I do believe some people change and are happier for it for a variety of reasons. But your daughter isn't just giving hope to those who want to change, but calling those who don't change sinners just like druggies and alcoholics. That's where the hate comes in.
@windofGod33 I'm sorry all of that happened to you ... I'm curious, what part of the country did this happen in? B/c I grew up in Texas, and I would be bowled over if the events you've described happened to a Christian there.
cuz they think you are somehow self-rightious and judgemental and can't be trusted. And most people think we think we are better than everyone else which is sooo far from the truth at least with Genuine believers. Yes the hypocrosy does exist, but that is not the whole of christian society. Really we believe we are all screwed up in some way and desperately need Jesus and Only he is righteous. And His grace covers us as sinners. all of us. none of us can say we are righteous
I got sexually harrassed by alot of people for stating that I was celibet until marriage and they all thought that was funny cuz I was previously sexually active so they did alot of sexual harrasing things to me cuz they thought it was funny. Etc. I could go on. And I can be having a completely normal conversation with someone and all is going well and they think I'm great or whatever and as soon as they find out I'm a christian. They get this look on there face and then treat you differently
(Continued) Becoming a christian automatically makes you a target. Everyone assumes you are an idiot and can't think for yourself. THey often think you are brainwashed or in some kind of cult. I've had stuff thrown at me before by christian haters. I was picked on really bad until I made new friends with other chirstians when I first got saved. I got invited to a house one time where it was basically just a practical joke played on me to make fun of me the whole time
(Cont) inspite of the differences. But I had to leave his party cuz a drunk guy there and his friends started screaming in my face out of no where saying "F*** YOU! F**** YOU, You F**ing christian." I wasn't even talking about my faith or anything. He had just heard that I was a christian through someone there. He got right in my face and my friend was trying to calm in down and pull Him away from me. "THen he said You are the F***ing reason for all the worlds hate.F****YOU!
@swiftset. I can't speak for high school, cuz I wasn't a christian then. But Are you kidding. Christians are constantly harrassed and made fun of in the media and we are place in so many stero types it's ridiculous. "the ignorant chistian", "The hypocrit" , "The money lovers" all that crap. Trust me I've been threatened. When I first got saved, I was at a party of a friend of mines who happened to be gay and He knew my beliefs and we accepted each other and still loved each other in spite of the
you are hiding your intolerance with "acceptance" yet hypoxcritically reject her parents story, saying it's just a case story. clearly you haven't met converted homosexuals. Unfair to the homosexuals who have converted and now face their own persecution, which I witness first hand all the time. Sad. Please, if nothing else we can agree on,please stop accusing people of lacking love and acceptance, just because their message of love and freedom doesn't jive with your idelogy.
unfortunately, my comment is lost on you. This subject is very close to me, and obviously sort of close to her. what I find harmful is the close mindedness of the side that claims the opposite. What I find harmful is the increasing intolerance of the side claiming tolerance.
@stucerocks Your comment isn't lost on me. You just have a lot to learn, as does she. I hope you can one day let love and acceptance for your fellow human beings into your heart.
@stucerocks - The 'intolerance' we show towards so-caleld ex-gays is down to this:
One of the key ways in which so-caleld ex-gay therpaies work is to demonize gay people and portray their lives as worthless. All done out of 'love' apparently Until that stops then what you are seeing is not intolerance but a cultural war against these people. If they are so happy being ex-gay, then not STFU about and just live your life. Why make a video about it? It only serves to dehumanise LBGT people.
@raisinhead2 I was involved in exgay ministry for over 10 years and I never saw the demonization of gay people. There may be some out there that do that, but that has NOT been my experience. I have, however, attended many gay sponsored events where conservative Christians have been demonized and mocked.
Thank you and yep i'm straight. just cuz u have gay parents doesn't mean your kids are for sure gay. You either are or you aren't and i'm not and my parents are.
@consumedforever How do you feel "threatened" by society as a Christian? I'm pretty sure high school kids don't fear physical violence for coming out as Christian and that politicians claim the mantle of Christianity to get ahead. Please explain what the threat is, to your Christianity. I'd agree if you said you felt Christianity's position of power and influence was being challenged, but that's not what you said.
@swiftset Um excuse me! You have no idea how much Christian kids get bullied in High School! Everyday you get harassed by people even if your not speaking against things publicly they just don't like what you believe so they beat you up. I know of tons of stories from people I know who get bullied because they are a Christian. Most of the time they speak love to those who hurt them but for some strange reason it drives them crazy your not mean to them back and beat you up even more!
@swiftset And you are wrong there is a fear everyday for they know what's coming. They get beat up all the time. The only thing is that people really do only pay attention to homosexual kids who get beat up in school and completely ignore that there are Christians all over the world (even in America) getting beat up. Sometimes even murdered for what they believe!
actually, I was referring to the comments on her channel, which were so vicious and vulgar, I flagged them as spam. Never seen such insulting comments displayed to someone who isn't even attacking them. Something she is saying (and saying in love), must really be eating away at them. persecution happens from all sides, my friend.
@consumedforever: Uh, honey, you're mixing up so many different things that it's kind of embarrassing. Gay is not the same as transsexual. I know a lot of people still make that kind of mistake, but it doesn't reflect well on you or your education or upbrining.
@TuplaPekka I am Elisabeth's dad. I am willing to allow myself to be vulnerable if that will prove to someone that I was gay. I had hundreds of male sexual partners. Again, this is not something I'm proud of, but it is the truth.
@pureheartseminars @tercelkisor@bcdk1995 i believe wholeheartedly that God does not hate homosexuals, that it is NOT a sin. Every fiber of my soul believes that, so condemn me as you will, but i know God won't.
purehearts- gay people can have a relationship with God, so many gay christian website and its a blessing to see.
tercelkisor- god did not say dont be gay, you are mis informed, all relating passages are under intense scrutiny as well as being 100s of yrs old,
@emmateacup You misunderstand. I have never said that God hates homosexuals and I do not condemn homosexuals. I believe that a gay person can have a relationship with God. However, the Old and New Testaments are clear on God's plan for sexuality and homosexuality is NOT part of it. Jesus said "I did not condemn the world, but to save it"!
@raisinhead2 No, I'm not God's chosen mouthpiece. I'm only one person in agreement with thousands of years of Christian history, along with all of the other major world religions on this issue. Islam, Buddhism and Hinduism all believe homosexuality to be wrong and unnatural. So you're the one in the minority, not me.
@pureheartseminars - It is not a record to be proud of. Do you agree with the Quran? The Bagavad Gita? No you don't. And ALL the world's major religions have their followers who don't agree with the interpretation of the so-called mainstream on homosexuality.
@raisinhead2 We could obviously argue all day, but I'm not interested in that. Again, it is certainly interesting that all the major world religions see homosexuality as immoral and unnatural, whether a small percentage of adherents disagree or not.
@pureheartseminars - yes, it is interesting but not something that should inhibit rational discourse which is something entirely missing from attitudes towards homosexuality by said religious mainstream.
@raisinhead2 Rationality, outside of religion, would say that you are completely wrong. If we were to take a completely evolutionary view of this, homosexuality is an unfavorable aberration that does not continue the propagation of the species. Just sayin'!
@pureheartseminars - You are so out of your depth now. Even if we categorise homosexuality as an evolutionarily unfavourable aberration for a second, there are millions of such genetic or biological traits that impact fertility, reproduction or propagation of the species. That doesn't mean they die out. One can easily envisage or invoke a balanced polymorphic phenotypical outcome for genotypes associated with sexuality (homosexuality in particular). Rationally speaking of course. Just sayin'
@bcdk1995 you say you dont believe in judgement, but calling homosexulaity a sin is your judgement. Elisabeth in her video tells people to turn away from their sin, to turn away from homosexuality, you are judging and condemning homosexuality. Thats why many people disagree with her video, that's why many people are angry, hurt and saddedned by it, can you not see that?
@emmateacup the judgement was already made. she didnt judge anything. god said "dont be gay" < That is the judgement. shes agreeing with it. when the courts make a law and someone quotes the law, you'd be a fool to say that that person is judging. you dont have to agree with what she calls ultimate authority but its foolishness to say that its judging.
@emmateacup Emma, we ALL sin. The problem with our hedonistic, pleasure seeking generation is that no one wants to be told "NO". We want to do what we want to do with no limitations. God sets limitations on all of us. If it's not homosexual behavior, then it is lying, cheating, stealing, drunkenness, pre-marital sex and divorce. We just don't like to be told what we can and cannot do. If people get angry, hurt and saddened by that, I'm sorry for them.
@emmateacup I (Elisabeth's mom) was in sin when I was living a homosexual life. If you would have told me that before my experience, I would have been mad and angry but deep down I did feel that something wasn't right about the life I was living(and not just in the homosexuality department). I wanted to stay away from God. I didn't know that He was my answer,that He loved me. My body showed that I was made for a man but I did feel born gay and trapped. I never knew or heard of people changing.
@emmateacup It isn't my idea, if it were up to me, everybody could come in. I know that all men fall short of the glory of God. I know I have sinned if not on this issue then on another one, it is between me and God noone else. Noone is looking over my shoulder. It is personal. The bible called it sin so I have to believe that the guidelines laid out for us in the bible are meant to keep us safe. Like a sign on the cliff, Keep Away from Edge, well, I can choose to get too close. Boundaries
this girl is a cunt. she is proof that God loves gays as she should have never existed. stupid worthless piece of shit.
timmywanam 6 days ago in playlist Testimonies of GOD from others. 5
The only reason people are attacking this video is because fags HATE hearing that homosexuality is a choice. It goes to show you how tolerant they are.
VICARlOUS 1 week ago
@VICARlOUS and the only reason i'm attacking your comment is because you type like a nigger using a stolen laptop.
chercherchercher 6 days ago
@chercherchercher Personal insults... oh boo hoo, I think I'll go cry... not. I see that you idolize cher, which clearly points out that you're an INTOLERANT fag... Yes, you're INTOLERANT of other people's opinions... Funny how you fags will preach about tolerance, and then you'll turn around and bash anyone who speaks against your filthy behavior. It reveals a lot about you, really. Filthy perverts...
VICARlOUS 4 days ago
@VICARlOUS you had me at your first word.. then i realized.. you're boring. cool.
chercherchercher 4 days ago
So many visions! VISIONS! VISIONS! VISIONS!!! They do not even fit together! They do not collectively agree! HOW can we know who's fucking right, and who's fucking wrong? (They probably are ALL WRONG, so fuck you!!!) Mary K. Baxter, Howard Storm, Bill Weiss, Don Piper, etc, etc, etc!
PresidentChristopher 1 week ago
Stop making videos, the plethora of cuts are going to give someone a seizure. The monochrome doesn't make it deeper, it just makes it more pretentious. Seriously, it's so bad, I don't even care about the actual content right now, please listen to me, this is not your thing. You're not the video girl that makes the little videos, you don't even have the tiniest glimmer of talent. Your video editing skill is a dark, hopeless abyss that will never turn into anything good. Please god stop now.
JFlaggerty 1 month ago 3
YAWN more stupid christians ranting about homosexuality what else is new?
ohboyhey2k4 1 month ago
Just horrible film making, what you had to say was just as bad but the constant cut aways and just horrible dialogue, I don't know who your writer is but he or she needs to be fired.
weighawesome 1 month ago
Thank you for sharing the truth of how Christ can transform anyone from a life of sin to a life free from bondage. God bless you for not being ashamed of Jesus and sharing this with all of us here. I praise God for you and will keep you in my prayers.
And to anyone struggling with the context of this message, ALL have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. So don’t think anyone is picking on you, we all must repent and turn from our wicked ways if we want a more abundant life.
somemoarplease 2 months ago
I see the dysfunction has not ended in your family yet. It's a charming story and how nice it ended as it did. But i don't see how the homosexuality was the destructive element here. Did you actually think that very one who's gay is tormented and doesn't want to be? The bad news is that there's a new generation hollowed out, religious poisoned minds growing up among us who will readily abdicate their morality and their reason because, well they just don't want to think too much!
tonyonly2 2 months ago
I think your mother had a paranormal experience, not a fucking spiritual Jesus one.
animegal11251 2 months ago in playlist More videos from ElisabethPrep93
Being gay is fine, stop spreading more un-needed hate throughout the world
superraiden 2 months ago
Recently on the board of directors of Exodus International John Smid has decided too stop condeming gay people, and now believes that only behavior is changed not core sexual orrientation... Smid also says in his many years with Exodus he never seen anyone actually change from gay too straight. Exodus President Alan Chambers a married man, says he still struggles with same sex attractions.
eddy909100 4 months ago
Who you trying to convince honey?
aerok91 6 months ago
.... You don't really know much about homosexuality..
You experience with it, though it has merit. I VERY one sided... You need to actually research this issue before talking about it. Get books, search the web. I myself am gay. I had such trouble with it when i was younger.. I cried and prayed and begged to not be gay.. Than, through the help of my family i discovered there wasn't anything wrong with me. I'm very happy with my life. Your experience isn't for everyone and it wont help anyone.
mrcloudiesbestfriend 7 months ago 6
@mrcloudiesbestfriend Hi! I wanted to let you know, that I'm not trying to say there's something wrong with you. God loves you, he really does. But honestly, when you are home, when there's no one else around, are you truly happy? I'm not saying that because you are a homosexual, I am saying that because Like all of us, you've messed up before. Whether it was lying, cheating, stealing, looking lustfully at a person. These are all what God considers sins.
ElisabethPrep93 5 months ago
@mrcloudiesbestfriend God loves us all enough to look past our sins and forgive us. All we have to do is repent (turn away from our sin) and turn towards God. It's giving him our whole lives, and saying, "I want you to have my whole heart, without anything getting in the way." He died on the cross for all of our sins, but he would have done it just for you. because that's how much he deeply and passionately loves you. You're a beautiful and wonderful creation of God!!!
ElisabethPrep93 5 months ago
@mrcloudiesbestfriend Please just think about it. The love he has for you will never end. Just know he's always been there, and he'll never leave you or forsake. He loves you, so so much! I hope you understand I am not trying to be judgmental or condemning, I just want people to know the love of God like I do. He changed my life.
ElisabethPrep93 5 months ago
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My friends, we must be careful not to "interpret" the Word of God. It is very plain. Leviticus 18:22 (KJV): "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind it is abomination.". It does NOT get much clearer than that.
kiwichristian2009 7 months ago
Is this a joke ROFL nothing better than a good laugh mid-day & on a Friday at that...keep the videos coming maybe one day you will be famous for sitting around the house posting You Tube videos all day while I get paid to sit at my desk, watch 7 laugh =)
awd111980 10 months ago
Thank you very much for posting this... my sister was gay for many years but had a similar experience to your mothers as you described and was rocking in solid biblical truth for 10-15 years... but she has fallen away into false doctrine and homosexuality again... with a "false jesus" that gives acceptance of it all... really wierd stuff but I hope and pray she straightens out again. I will share you vid with her. God bless and thanks again... and dont hate the haters posting, pray for them.
blesseddisciple 11 months ago
@ZShort1985 "lol@ more dislikes than likes"
An true indicator of who actually are the real haters
funk7000 1 year ago
God has a beautiful plan for your life :] you go girl!
futurefashionista101 1 year ago
Christians must not judge, but to condone a sin, is to own it!
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TheEmmanuelDoorpost 1 year ago
Rock on Elisabeth! I respect your bravery, being open about your family in such a public way certainly takes a great deal of courage.
My family is similar to yours, but I don't think I'd have had the nerve to step out like you have when I was your age. Well done!
k8trix 1 year ago
P.S. We all still have to learn to keep the whole Law but if we are willing to put our self to death through keep the Law we will receive Life by the power of YHWH who promised from the beginning All those who keep my Law will receive blessings,long life and my grace for I YHWH your Elohim am gracious to those who fear me and keep my Law.
StrikerFirstDelta7 1 year ago
YHWH judges and YHWH paid the debt we could never pay now will you forgive the debts of others and show them the same compassion as He the Righteous and Just King showed you when you could never pay your debt?
StrikerFirstDelta7 1 year ago
@greeneggsandzam at what point did I say thatHIV is a gay disease. But, since you are all knowing, what are the stats for the usa? Please hurry or quit infering something I never said. Thank you..
chuckscot 1 year ago
@TheJacobWoods Don't be so open minded your brain falls out.
languagesongs 1 year ago
@warsmithmortis I choose not to believe in gravity . . . but does my disbelief change reality?
languagesongs 1 year ago
@tonynibbles I pitty you that you choose to reject your creator who sent his son to die for you so you could live for eternity. Your conscience knows this to be true.
languagesongs 1 year ago
@atxthumper Yep. Keep resisting God.
languagesongs 1 year ago
@languagesongs "You may think everything you do is right, but the Lord judges your motives." Proverbs 16,2. *ahem*
greeneggsandzam 1 year ago
@greeneggsandzam Yes he does. You are so right he does JUDGE. He is the just judge and I am condemed a sinner but Christ stepped in and paid my fine and the Bible says that if I repent of my sin and put my faith in the redemptive work of Christ I can be saved even though I didn't earn it and don't deserve it.
languagesongs 1 year ago
@languagesongs I will, thanks for your support.
atxthumper 1 year ago
@TheAndrewmac You're in denial.
languagesongs 1 year ago
@languagesongs in denial of what? And Although that appears to be a simple rebuttal, I am genuinely unsure of what I am in denial of.
TheAndrewmac 1 year ago
:(
This is not a mental disorder. This is not from abuse. I am not diseased. I am not someone who needs curing.
God loves all, but we do not need to change as long as we haven't sinned. I've not sinned, just loved, loved apparently the "wrong" people.
I'm not talking about her, or how wrong I think she is, because I agree with jesussetmefree1, she shouldn't be yelled at for posting what she "thinks". I find it sad to find someone so closed minded, at such a young age.
CRAZYerthanthou 1 year ago
Keep blaming it on " dysfunctional upbringing" and "abuse", etc, etc. I am sorry that your parents have warped your mind with deliberately misleading propaganda...but then Christians...aren't known for sticking to facts. Or being particularly tolerant people. I wonder what God would have to say about that?
greeneggsandzam 1 year ago
@greeneggsandzam Are you tolerant? If you truely are then you will be able to tolerate our intolerance of sin. Jesus is the only way to God, that's what Jesus himself said. Do you also tolerate other sins such as murder and rape? You should since you think we shouldn't judge people.
languagesongs 1 year ago
@languagesongs Well, since you're such an expert you would know EXACTLY what the bible says about judgement and tolerance, including that old chestnut about casting stones. Again, you're just generalising in a very uneducated way, in fact it seems to be that you're equating homosexuality with rape and murder. Hold your tongue would be my advice, and instead of thinking that you know better than the big guy upstairs just leave it to him instead of lecturing others.
greeneggsandzam 1 year ago
@greeneggsandzam Yep homosexuality, rape, murder, lying. stealing, not honoring your father and mother, selfishness, all of them are sins. Chapter)
8. Rev 21:8: "But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”
languagesongs 1 year ago
Yes, God is pure love. If God is pure love, then God will not have a problem with same-sex relationships. Unless i am misunderstanding this story, If the waitress Rose in the story had a husband, how did she end up with the guy she was trying to convert to Christianity ????? What happened to her husband, the girl's father??????? mmmmm.
kschindle1 1 year ago
@kschindle1 you missunderstood the story.
mrchristianjim 1 year ago
Amen! God loves us all.
somebodysangel99 1 year ago
Thanks for posting this video.
somebodysangel99 1 year ago
Let us hope that this young girl obtains some education on the matter. It's unfortunate that her parents have chosen to warp such a young child into such ignorance on the matter.
WooferBearATL 1 year ago
@raisinhead2 Nope, not deceived, just observant. I have friends who happen to be gay. I love them dearly, but they are miserable to be around sometime because of all the drama. Sounds gay (meaning happy) to me. On a serious note, I have a friend who came out of the homosexual lifestyle. He recently found out that he is HIV positive. He will tell anyone that his lifestyle "choice" brought him nothing but sorrow. This is the same for any lifestyle that deviates from what we were designed. Blessyou
chuckscot 1 year ago
@chuckscot - I can't prove you are lying but saying all homosexuals are unhappy is quite a generalisation and a gross extrapolation from your own small sample. I don't believe for a second that homophobes like you have many gay friends.Acquaintances maybe.
"came out of the homosexual lifestyle" - what is this nonsense-speak? Did he become straight or not? Of did he just stop behaving that way? It wasn't his lifestyle that brought him sorrow but not using a condom.
raisinhead2 1 year ago
@chuckscot If you were actually as observant as you say you would know that sexual orientation and a medical condition are two entirely separate things. Approximately 68% of the world's HIV-positive population are African and predominantly Heterosexual. Do more research before opining on things you don't know of, thank you.
greeneggsandzam 1 year ago 2
@consumedforever - a man and a woman's body is put to various uses for the purpose sexual enjoyment that are outside the evolutionary function of that organ. Your argument is not logical.
raisinhead2 1 year ago
I have to say that I admire Elizabeth and her family for their stance on this issue. I am one who repented, turned the other way, and yet still could not find freedom. It has been a long, hard road, and this video somehow gives me hope that the story is not over.
wpd31 1 year ago 2
@wpd31
Praying for you, wpd31!! God bless you beyond your comprehension
stucerocks 1 year ago
@wpd31 I will continue to pray for you too! We find Him in the midst of our weakest places. We will all struggle with our flesh and the sin nature within us. I have been grateful that God has taught me the power of the Cross. It is at the foot of the cross that I have found the greatest freedom. As I surrender my desires and fears to Him, He pours out mercy, grace and strength to overcome. Just remember: This life is a vapor. Soon we will be with Him and we will be like Him!
pureheartseminars 1 year ago
awesome!
siholgs 1 year ago 2
@magicrulz101 My husband had a different experience then me (I wrote mine just before this post). His change was a process but he also never went to an ex-gay ministry. We never even heard of people changing. For him he read 1 Cor. 6:9-10 where it talks about gay people in the city of Corinth and then it says,"such WERE some of you".He thought,"there were gay people in Corinth and if they can change, I can change too".So neither of us ever went to a group.
donnacole63 1 year ago 5
@donnacole63 God bless you both, Donna! Thank you for posting!
stucerocks 1 year ago
@magicrulz101 I (Liz"s Mom) am letting you know I never went to an ex-gay ministry. God just changed me, when I saw Him dying on a cross.In fact my homosexuality wasn't even on my mind. I walked out and my desires had changed.I told all my gay friends.I couldn't believe it.My family did accept me when I told them"I was born gay and there is nothing I can do about it".My Mom even came to the gay bar with me. I did not experience a lack of acceptance but God knew what I really needed was His love.
donnacole63 1 year ago 2
What your doing is so good. Your dad in heaven is proud of you! I dont know how people found this to be hateful. hey, everyone! look at it from HER perspective. Her parents found something good. They found that there IS a god, who isnt sitting in heaven waiting for you to mess up, and then condem you for it- he LOVES you and is jealous for your affection. and she sees you through HIS eyes of love and wants you to partake in the future glory in christ jesus. Dont see how thats hateful. -angela j
angelajoyification 1 year ago
I am a believer. I love Jesus with all that I am. I just recently started a relationship with a woman and I love her very much. I do believe that it is a choice to love someone regardless of their gender. Elizabeth I think your video is sweet and I can see your heart behind it. The dilemma is that you speak candidly about coming out of the homosexual lifestyle as if it is an easy thing. Don't get me wrong I love the church but as soon as they heard that I had "fallen" I lost all of my relations
Mercylover45 1 year ago
@magicrulz101
Most people don't try, because they're brainwashed, ahum fooled, into thinking it's not possible. So of course most people can't change, if they don't think it's even worth trying. And of course no therapy will work for a person forced into it against his will.
I've attended such a camp and let me tell you something - YOU have no idea what you're talking about. I can't wait to get videos up on this topic. I'm gonna destroy your fantasy land of ANTI- choice & moral relativism
omedyashar 1 year ago
@colinfitzp Wrong (Liz"s mom). After I changed I met tons of people, who like me have changed. I wished I would have known it sooner. I now have a family and a life I never dreamed of. Many are afraid to tell their stories because they are not accepted. I have been told off plenty of times just because I told someone I use to be homosexual. The truth is ex-gays are not allowed to tell their stories or they get shut down. There are lots out there and I hope they will put their stories on too.
donnacole63 1 year ago
This has to be a poe, I am convinced.
MOMORPIGER 1 year ago
@MOMORPIGER I'm beginning to wonder, too...
Knr911 1 year ago
@MOMORPIGER What is a poe?
ElisabethPrep93 1 year ago
@ElisabethPrep93 It's when you mimick something that you find rediculous perfectly to the point that it baits other people into getting angry at you. It's similar to trolling in that manner. A good example would be if I started making a series of creationist videos talking about the world being 6000 years old, I don't believe any of that at all but I'm sure someone would flip out on me and it would be funny.
MOMORPIGER 1 year ago
@MOMORPIGER I know her and her parents personally. While it would be a great poe, it isn't. I know someone's word doesn't mean much on the internet these days, but you'll have to take my word for it.
lauriejennifer 1 year ago 8
@MOMORPIGER
I'm with you. It must be a poe.
EvenGodsSuffer 1 year ago
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Shishpow 1 year ago
I was in an abusive relationship once. My uncle used to force me to. . .wear polyester. Cotton was so much more comfortable and breathed easier, but the allure of that mix fabric blend was too much for my adolescence mind. Then someone came to me, reached out, and read to me Leviticus 19:19 when I needed it most.
". . .nor wear a garment upon you of two kinds of material mixed together."
Now I'm back to wearing cotton shirts. My gay lover can see the change in me, and we're much happier.
infrafan 1 year ago
There is a major difference between experimenting with members of the same sex and those who are truly homosexual. Being homosexual is not just about the sexual act with a person, but also about falling in love with someone of the same sex.. Love is love regardless. Those who merely experiment for sexual gratification are the ones doing the choosing. And no, I'm not homosexual.
Shishpow 1 year ago
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Search4truth488 1 year ago
Good Job ElisabethPrep93
chuckscot 1 year ago 3
Also, read what you wrote about the guy "leaving his family". Can you honestly say that is a good choice? Break up the family for a selfish life choice. What it comes down to is that homosexuality is a pleasure driven selfish life CHOICE. There is nothing but pain and sorrow involved in that lifestyle that gets masqueraded with drugs and alcohol abuse only to surface as regret and sadness. I challenge you to honestly observe those of whom you know to be homosexual.
chuckscot 1 year ago
Knr911 you stated, "The world doesn't revolve around your parent's beautiful Jesus story, millions of homosexuals are living a perfectly happy life." From my experience I have never, and I do mean never, met a happy homosexual which is ironic because they use the word Gay as a label. Most gay people that I know are going through some sort of jilted lover, relationship trauma, life drama issue that makes them miserable. Sure there are pockets of seemingly happy moments that are fleeting at best.
chuckscot 1 year ago
@chuckscot "Most gay people that I know are going through some sort of jilted lover, relationship trauma, life drama issue that makes them miserable." This, coupled with all the hate, ridicule, and sometimes violence homosexuals endure only seems to further reinforce the fact that it is NOT a choice. If it WERE a choice, most people would have caved and said "screw it" and left that "lifestyle choice" behind. Living out what is really in your heart is sometimes the hardest part of life.
Shishpow 1 year ago 2
@chuckscot But at the same time, homosexuals are able to find happy lives just like anyone else.
Shishpow 1 year ago
@chuckscot - You obviously never met many. Or you're a liar. So many lies that the world will end if gays get their way. All of which turn out to be lies. So I conclude you are a liar or else deceiving yourself that the row you overheard was evidence of 'unhappiness' when in fact straight people row too. FYI - I am happy. Geddit?
raisinhead2 1 year ago
The plural of anecdote is not data.
DLandonCole 1 year ago
So you're equating being homosexual to being an alcoholic or addicted to drugs? Wow. You're way off. And I don't care what you've been taught or believe, being homosexual is NOT a choice, but I guess the slanted view from atop your pedestal makes it hard to see things for what they really are. All I've learned from you is that judging someone is the right way to love them. :/
Shishpow 1 year ago
@Shishpow The truth is we are all taught it is not a choice. If you say it is then you are ridiculed.
donnacole63 1 year ago
@donnacole63 I made up my own mind concerning whether it's a choice or not. There are lots of things we don't choose to be, but are. And I'm not setting out to ridicule anyone. I just simply detest people judging someone else for simply being who they are. It's not like we're talking about murderers. We're talking about love. Again, homosexuality is not just about sex. It's about falling in love too. Maybe those focused simply on the sex part are the ones with the problems. . .
Shishpow 1 year ago
@Shishpow I know you may not like to hear this but I was so in love, especially with my first lover. I felt like we were so "one" but it was still wrong in God's eyes. He said "the two (a man and a woman) shall be one". He even created our bodies to show this is how it is suppose to be. I know you will be angry with this point of view and I understand. I would have been angry when I was in the midst of my relationships. It wasn't easy for me to admit that my lifestyle was not right.
donnacole63 1 year ago 3
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Shishpow 1 year ago
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@donnacole63 I'm not angry with you. I just don't agree with you. Why should being in love be wrong? Again, I'm not gay. I just have a very open heart and mind. I've had gay friends that I'm 100% sure could never change, because this is so much who they are. That is what bothers me--being condemned for being born a certain way. That's all.
Shishpow 1 year ago
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@donnacole63 I'm not angry with you. I just don't agree with you. Why should being in love be wrong? Again, I'm not gay. I just have a very open heart and mind. I've had gay friends that I'm 100% sure could never change, but this was so much who they were. That is what bothers me--being condemned for being born a certain way. That's all.
Shishpow 1 year ago
@Shishpow That is not what she said. She was just simply stating that her mom was free from all those things that day. She didn't say that all homosexuals are drug addicts and drink all the time. Don't put words in her mouth she didn't say. Also you are wrong again this video was done in love. Sometimes when you love someone you have to tell them the truth even if it hurts. In the end it is better that you told them the truth of what you believe then lying.
hedgehoghut 1 year ago
@hedgehoghut And I didn't say that she said that "all homosexuals are drug addicts and drink all the time. " I said that she's comparing being a homosexual to being a drug addict or alcoholic. She seems very lovely and I'm sure she means well, but the "truth" she speaks of is not one I agree with. Young homosexuals have enough fear and bullying to deal with without someone pushing some propaganda onto them, making them believe that something is wrong with them when it's just not true.
Shishpow 1 year ago
I knew a 45-years old man suffering from terminal cancer. All doctors gave him 3 months. One morning, cancer was entirely gone. Doctors said it's one chance in millions. You may see this as a miracle from God. The emotional schok made him discover his homosexuality. So he left wife and children.
The world doesn't revolve around your parent's beautiful Jesus story, millions of homosexuals are living a perfectly happy life.
And no, Homosexuality is not a choice. get it into your skull.
Knr911 1 year ago
This is a terrible story. It is like saying a man was healed of cancer and when he came out he made a discovery that he was in love with another woman so he left his wife and children to be true to himself. Would you rejoice in that story? We make commitments for better or worst. To leave your children for the lusts of your body is wrong. Once I am a parent, I am to lay down my life for my children.
donnacole63 1 year ago
@donnacole63 "to be true to himself". Yes exactly, what's your problem?
"Once I am a parent, I am to lay down my life for my children".
Children feel when parents are not in love anymore. They suffer less from having their parents separated rather than still together with no love.
"the lusts of your body" Who are you to declare this was only lust and no love?
Knr911 1 year ago
When we have children, yes, I will say it again, we are to lay down our lives for them. We brought little beings in this world and they are innocent. They need stability. Did you come from a divorced family? I did. I know everything inside me wanted my mom and Dad together, though they had problems. I help kids through hurts and NO kid wants their parents divorced, though it happens all the time.
donnacole63 1 year ago
@Knr911 And it is the lusts of the body whether it is for another woman or a man. We put our desires aside once we are parents and we ARE to do what is best for our children and not for ourselves, not to mention the marriage commitments we made. We are to remain faithful for life, though many don't.
donnacole63 1 year ago
@Knr911 My husband and I have been married fro 22 years. We have had ups and downs but we made a commitment to each other and because of that we stick to our commitment and in the end our marriage and love is stronger for one another. Like the scriptures says, "The two shall become one". If I have "feelings" for someone else when married, then I need to put those aside for my marriage and in the end, my marriage WILL be stronger.
donnacole63 1 year ago
@Knr911 We have lost commitment in our society and "we" as well as our children are hurting because of it. Sorry but I will never change on this stance.
donnacole63 1 year ago
@Knr911 Please start at bottom of comments and read up. I didn't have enough characters to post it all together. Thanks
donnacole63 1 year ago
@Knr911 Just like many people say that don't believe this story. Even though her mom has a video telling her story. I don't believe you she actually has proof...now wheres your sir?
hedgehoghut 1 year ago
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Knr911 1 year ago
@colinfitzp So what I hear you saying is that it's ok to Bully someone as long as it's justifyable. If they are already weak we shouldn't bully them. But because she is "straight" and "white" it's ok to pick on a little girl, Do you hear yourself? #doublestandard
jesussetmefree1 1 year ago 10
I don't think the LGBT community should be expected to show "tolerance" to those who equate us to druggies and alcoholics any more than the black community should be expected to show "tolerance" to the KKK and their views.
houseofswans1 1 year ago
@houseofswans1 Where Is anyone equating you to druggies or alcoholics? I don't see that in this video. Did you watch some other video. (Liz's Mom, the one the stories about) Did do some drugs and alcohol and didn't do it again after I walked out of church because the deep void in my life was filled. Tom, my husband went back to those things for a period in his life. Where is anyone saying that homosexuality and the two go together?These are just our stories and none of it is tied together.
donnacole63 1 year ago
@donnacole63 at 1:00 "After that day my mom never went back to homosexuality, drugs, or alcohol." She's saying you were saved from all three at the same time by Jesus, as if they are all tied together.
houseofswans1 1 year ago
@houseofswans1 All this is true.After that day I didn't do drugs, drink and I knew I wasn't gay anymore.So all three happened because they were a part of my life. If you see it the other way, help yourself but that wasn't what was meant by it. I just happened to never do these things again. I also stopped swearing.I can't explain it but I didn't talk with such profanity anymore.I did not try to stop. It was just gone. Again not tying anything together, these were just the things that happened
donnacole63 1 year ago
@houseofswans1 -Exactly. How is that so many of the stories of those who struggle with same-sex attraction also are so messed up in other ways? Drugs, abuse, alcohol. That's what I read when reading so-called ex-gay stories. There is something going on with them beyond underlying orientation.
raisinhead2 1 year ago
@houseofswans1 And just so you know I wasn't a druggie or an alcoholic. You are assuming that. I drank, sometimes and I did drugs sometimes. I wasn't an alcoholic or a druggie. I just never did those things again.
donnacole63 1 year ago
@donnacole63 The bottom line is, the message of this video is that being gay is a sin that Jesus can save you from, just like abusing drugs, alcohol, and swearing are sins. I do believe some people change and are happier for it for a variety of reasons. But your daughter isn't just giving hope to those who want to change, but calling those who don't change sinners just like druggies and alcoholics. That's where the hate comes in.
houseofswans1 1 year ago
(cont) @swiftset by the way I am the same person as consumedforever. I have two aliases.
windofGod33 1 year ago
@windofGod33 I'm sorry all of that happened to you ... I'm curious, what part of the country did this happen in? B/c I grew up in Texas, and I would be bowled over if the events you've described happened to a Christian there.
swiftset 1 year ago
cuz they think you are somehow self-rightious and judgemental and can't be trusted. And most people think we think we are better than everyone else which is sooo far from the truth at least with Genuine believers. Yes the hypocrosy does exist, but that is not the whole of christian society. Really we believe we are all screwed up in some way and desperately need Jesus and Only he is righteous. And His grace covers us as sinners. all of us. none of us can say we are righteous
windofGod33 1 year ago
I got sexually harrassed by alot of people for stating that I was celibet until marriage and they all thought that was funny cuz I was previously sexually active so they did alot of sexual harrasing things to me cuz they thought it was funny. Etc. I could go on. And I can be having a completely normal conversation with someone and all is going well and they think I'm great or whatever and as soon as they find out I'm a christian. They get this look on there face and then treat you differently
windofGod33 1 year ago
(Continued) Becoming a christian automatically makes you a target. Everyone assumes you are an idiot and can't think for yourself. THey often think you are brainwashed or in some kind of cult. I've had stuff thrown at me before by christian haters. I was picked on really bad until I made new friends with other chirstians when I first got saved. I got invited to a house one time where it was basically just a practical joke played on me to make fun of me the whole time
windofGod33 1 year ago
(Cont) inspite of the differences. But I had to leave his party cuz a drunk guy there and his friends started screaming in my face out of no where saying "F*** YOU! F**** YOU, You F**ing christian." I wasn't even talking about my faith or anything. He had just heard that I was a christian through someone there. He got right in my face and my friend was trying to calm in down and pull Him away from me. "THen he said You are the F***ing reason for all the worlds hate.F****YOU!
windofGod33 1 year ago
@swiftset. I can't speak for high school, cuz I wasn't a christian then. But Are you kidding. Christians are constantly harrassed and made fun of in the media and we are place in so many stero types it's ridiculous. "the ignorant chistian", "The hypocrit" , "The money lovers" all that crap. Trust me I've been threatened. When I first got saved, I was at a party of a friend of mines who happened to be gay and He knew my beliefs and we accepted each other and still loved each other in spite of the
windofGod33 1 year ago
@colinfitzp i get your humor, and surprisingly, mine is simliar :) thank you for the conversation.
stucerocks 1 year ago
so, let me just understand what you are saying. We can't love homosexuals unless we love their sexuality? Goodbye, and may the Lord bless you.
stucerocks 1 year ago
you are hiding your intolerance with "acceptance" yet hypoxcritically reject her parents story, saying it's just a case story. clearly you haven't met converted homosexuals. Unfair to the homosexuals who have converted and now face their own persecution, which I witness first hand all the time. Sad. Please, if nothing else we can agree on,please stop accusing people of lacking love and acceptance, just because their message of love and freedom doesn't jive with your idelogy.
stucerocks 1 year ago
@stucerocks sorry, case "study".
stucerocks 1 year ago
Like your parents, Elisabeth, I too was born gay ... I tried to pray it away for years ... but I haven't been able to succeed.
But then I realized that I'm Gay because god made me that way, and God don't make no junk!
Thanks for playing though!
jackshamama 1 year ago
unfortunately, my comment is lost on you. This subject is very close to me, and obviously sort of close to her. what I find harmful is the close mindedness of the side that claims the opposite. What I find harmful is the increasing intolerance of the side claiming tolerance.
stucerocks 1 year ago
@stucerocks Your comment isn't lost on me. You just have a lot to learn, as does she. I hope you can one day let love and acceptance for your fellow human beings into your heart.
colinfitzp 1 year ago
@stucerocks - The 'intolerance' we show towards so-caleld ex-gays is down to this:
One of the key ways in which so-caleld ex-gay therpaies work is to demonize gay people and portray their lives as worthless. All done out of 'love' apparently Until that stops then what you are seeing is not intolerance but a cultural war against these people. If they are so happy being ex-gay, then not STFU about and just live your life. Why make a video about it? It only serves to dehumanise LBGT people.
raisinhead2 1 year ago
@raisinhead2 I was involved in exgay ministry for over 10 years and I never saw the demonization of gay people. There may be some out there that do that, but that has NOT been my experience. I have, however, attended many gay sponsored events where conservative Christians have been demonized and mocked.
pureheartseminars 1 year ago
@SJohnTucson
Thank you and yep i'm straight. just cuz u have gay parents doesn't mean your kids are for sure gay. You either are or you aren't and i'm not and my parents are.
ythnkupollyprsypnts 1 year ago
@consumedforever How do you feel "threatened" by society as a Christian? I'm pretty sure high school kids don't fear physical violence for coming out as Christian and that politicians claim the mantle of Christianity to get ahead. Please explain what the threat is, to your Christianity. I'd agree if you said you felt Christianity's position of power and influence was being challenged, but that's not what you said.
swiftset 1 year ago
@swiftset Um excuse me! You have no idea how much Christian kids get bullied in High School! Everyday you get harassed by people even if your not speaking against things publicly they just don't like what you believe so they beat you up. I know of tons of stories from people I know who get bullied because they are a Christian. Most of the time they speak love to those who hurt them but for some strange reason it drives them crazy your not mean to them back and beat you up even more!
hedgehoghut 1 year ago
@swiftset And you are wrong there is a fear everyday for they know what's coming. They get beat up all the time. The only thing is that people really do only pay attention to homosexual kids who get beat up in school and completely ignore that there are Christians all over the world (even in America) getting beat up. Sometimes even murdered for what they believe!
hedgehoghut 1 year ago
actually, I was referring to the comments on her channel, which were so vicious and vulgar, I flagged them as spam. Never seen such insulting comments displayed to someone who isn't even attacking them. Something she is saying (and saying in love), must really be eating away at them. persecution happens from all sides, my friend.
stucerocks 1 year ago
@stucerocks I would actually categorize this as a passive aggressive attack.
colinfitzp 1 year ago 2
@colinfitzp then, you don't understand her message.
stucerocks 1 year ago
How about we all lighten up here! Here's a joke. What did the dyslexic atheist believe? That there is not DOG.
bcdk1995 1 year ago
@bcdk1995 aw man I blew the punch line: The there is NO DOG, darn.
bcdk1995 1 year ago
@consumedforever: Uh, honey, you're mixing up so many different things that it's kind of embarrassing. Gay is not the same as transsexual. I know a lot of people still make that kind of mistake, but it doesn't reflect well on you or your education or upbrining.
SJohnTucson 1 year ago
This is such a great video! I love you Elizabeth! Let your light shine! :D
godisgracious117 1 year ago
This is such a great video! I love you Elizabeth! Let your light shine! :D
godisgracious117 1 year ago
I personally know numerous EX-homosexuals and have preached with 3 of them.
Go to exhomosexuals dotcom for some testimonies.
No one is born homosexual and the many studies bears this out.
JimDeferio 1 year ago
@JimDeferio - no reputable studies published in mainstream academic journals support the view that people can change their sexuality.
Ex-gay testemonies are always from ex-gays assocated and with vested interests in the so-called ex-gay movement.
raisinhead2 1 year ago
okay, if you give us the number of men/women your dad/mom slept with and if that numer is more than one then you might have an actual case here
TuplaPekka 1 year ago
@TuplaPekka I am Elisabeth's dad. I am willing to allow myself to be vulnerable if that will prove to someone that I was gay. I had hundreds of male sexual partners. Again, this is not something I'm proud of, but it is the truth.
pureheartseminars 1 year ago
@pureheartseminars @tercelkisor @bcdk1995
im going to go now, im probabaly not going to change your opinions same way as your not going to change mine.
But to any who is gay, or knows someone who is- it is ok to be gay, you can still have a relationship with god if thats what you want!
Peace out guys.
Keep loving one another, and hope for a brighter tomorrow- I know I will be :)
emmateacup 1 year ago 3
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sarahteapot 1 year ago
@emmateacup
brilliantly put Emma :-)
sarahteapot 1 year ago
@pureheartseminars @tercelkisor @bcdk1995 i believe wholeheartedly that God does not hate homosexuals, that it is NOT a sin. Every fiber of my soul believes that, so condemn me as you will, but i know God won't.
purehearts- gay people can have a relationship with God, so many gay christian website and its a blessing to see.
tercelkisor- god did not say dont be gay, you are mis informed, all relating passages are under intense scrutiny as well as being 100s of yrs old,
emmateacup 1 year ago 3
@emmateacup You misunderstand. I have never said that God hates homosexuals and I do not condemn homosexuals. I believe that a gay person can have a relationship with God. However, the Old and New Testaments are clear on God's plan for sexuality and homosexuality is NOT part of it. Jesus said "I did not condemn the world, but to save it"!
pureheartseminars 1 year ago
@pureheartseminars - fundamentalist Christians - always SO clear what God means and what the Bible really says. Who are you? God's chosen mouthpiece?
raisinhead2 1 year ago
@raisinhead2 No, I'm not God's chosen mouthpiece. I'm only one person in agreement with thousands of years of Christian history, along with all of the other major world religions on this issue. Islam, Buddhism and Hinduism all believe homosexuality to be wrong and unnatural. So you're the one in the minority, not me.
pureheartseminars 1 year ago
@pureheartseminars - It is not a record to be proud of. Do you agree with the Quran? The Bagavad Gita? No you don't. And ALL the world's major religions have their followers who don't agree with the interpretation of the so-called mainstream on homosexuality.
raisinhead2 1 year ago
@raisinhead2 We could obviously argue all day, but I'm not interested in that. Again, it is certainly interesting that all the major world religions see homosexuality as immoral and unnatural, whether a small percentage of adherents disagree or not.
pureheartseminars 1 year ago
@pureheartseminars - yes, it is interesting but not something that should inhibit rational discourse which is something entirely missing from attitudes towards homosexuality by said religious mainstream.
raisinhead2 1 year ago
@raisinhead2 I thought we've been having a rational discourse. Am I missing something?
pureheartseminars 1 year ago
@pureheartseminars - Yes. anything other than "a full embracing and acceptance that homosexuality is good" , as you put it, is irrational.
raisinhead2 1 year ago
@raisinhead2 Rationality, outside of religion, would say that you are completely wrong. If we were to take a completely evolutionary view of this, homosexuality is an unfavorable aberration that does not continue the propagation of the species. Just sayin'!
pureheartseminars 1 year ago
@pureheartseminars - You are so out of your depth now. Even if we categorise homosexuality as an evolutionarily unfavourable aberration for a second, there are millions of such genetic or biological traits that impact fertility, reproduction or propagation of the species. That doesn't mean they die out. One can easily envisage or invoke a balanced polymorphic phenotypical outcome for genotypes associated with sexuality (homosexuality in particular). Rationally speaking of course. Just sayin'
raisinhead2 1 year ago
Matthew 19:12
raisinhead2 1 year ago
I'm really REALLY liking the dialog here...
bcdk1995 1 year ago
@AmericaDevil even if you don't believe in God, he believes in you.
bcdk1995 1 year ago
@bcdk1995 you say you dont believe in judgement, but calling homosexulaity a sin is your judgement. Elisabeth in her video tells people to turn away from their sin, to turn away from homosexuality, you are judging and condemning homosexuality. Thats why many people disagree with her video, that's why many people are angry, hurt and saddedned by it, can you not see that?
emmateacup 1 year ago
@emmateacup the judgement was already made. she didnt judge anything. god said "dont be gay" < That is the judgement. shes agreeing with it. when the courts make a law and someone quotes the law, you'd be a fool to say that that person is judging. you dont have to agree with what she calls ultimate authority but its foolishness to say that its judging.
tercelkisor 1 year ago
@tercelkisor Um, God didn't say: "Don't be gay." Where is that scripture?
wpd31 1 year ago
@emmateacup Emma, we ALL sin. The problem with our hedonistic, pleasure seeking generation is that no one wants to be told "NO". We want to do what we want to do with no limitations. God sets limitations on all of us. If it's not homosexual behavior, then it is lying, cheating, stealing, drunkenness, pre-marital sex and divorce. We just don't like to be told what we can and cannot do. If people get angry, hurt and saddened by that, I'm sorry for them.
pureheartseminars 1 year ago
@emmateacup I (Elisabeth's mom) was in sin when I was living a homosexual life. If you would have told me that before my experience, I would have been mad and angry but deep down I did feel that something wasn't right about the life I was living(and not just in the homosexuality department). I wanted to stay away from God. I didn't know that He was my answer,that He loved me. My body showed that I was made for a man but I did feel born gay and trapped. I never knew or heard of people changing.
donnacole63 1 year ago
@emmateacup It isn't my idea, if it were up to me, everybody could come in. I know that all men fall short of the glory of God. I know I have sinned if not on this issue then on another one, it is between me and God noone else. Noone is looking over my shoulder. It is personal. The bible called it sin so I have to believe that the guidelines laid out for us in the bible are meant to keep us safe. Like a sign on the cliff, Keep Away from Edge, well, I can choose to get too close. Boundaries
bcdk1995 1 year ago
@bcdk1995 you sound very nice, and dinner sounds lovely if you werent a million miles aw