Killing children? No. Killing fetuses (which are non-sentient, non-feeling and doesn't possess mental faculties or emotions, nor pain sensation), yes. Does he hurt the fetus or rob it of anything (and "life" is not an argument)? Not at all.
@Tommon I'll try to explain this as succinctly as I can: A comatose person, unless irreversibly brain dead, has a psyche - a dormant consciousness - that exists within it. That's how we dream when we sleep. But as a comatose person is more unconscious that a sleeping person, he/she doesn't dream. However, when they wake; they still return to awakeness with most of their personality, preferences (most of the time), tastes, emotional reactions and what-not intact. A person still exists in there.
We adopted our son after talking his mom out of the abortion scheduled for the next day. He's married now, going to college and so very grateful that he was not aborted.
@Irisheyes0812, how the hell am I "ruining women of this country?" It's pontificating idiots like you pouting and whining about a legal procedure, who vote in bumbling ignoramuses like Bush. I do NOT want your goddamn sympathy, nor your "God" which I don't believe in, so take your fear-based God rhetoric and shove it up your ass.
No one in the government will ever care if your religion goes against abortion. All sane people, for that matter.
No one goes around waving a flag saying "GET AN ABORTION". It's a personal decision, and until you've experienced an unwanted pregnancy, go away.
HE HAD A NINE YEAR OLD WHO WAS CARRYING A FETIS!!! damn you, you pro-life people think you're drilling an idea into our heads. you're just wasting our time.
Oh, and p.p.s. Shithead, if you REALLY think it's just a mother's responsibility to find a perfect father" then you're a narcoleptic simpleton living in a world of fallacy and delusion. Furthermore, prolifers like you would FORCE women to birth unwanted children whether by a good man or a bad man, consensual sex or rape. Everything you said was contradictory and unrealistic, and a cold shiver away from fascist. Watch it asshole.
@Jazabelle85 The lines get sticky when it comes to rape and incest. What I am against is woman who know FULL WELL that they will get pregnant, or can get pregnant. Simple, you don't want a baby, ABSTAIN. You almost had a good point...but it was drowned with the idiotic swearing. I got angry when I heard 24 weeks old....that is a baby. And that is murder. Plain and simple. Why the hell wait so long? Change your mind.
@Theone1087, actually if you'd help yourself to a textbook you might learn that sex IS a NEED just like food and water, it is on the very bottom of Maslow's hierarchy of needs right next to food and shelter. Also, her father DIED in a car accident a year ago so, any other stupid shit you'd like to say about that?! Lastly, you still have zero right to judge me simply because you think you know what you're talking about, which you clearly don't. Shame on YOU.
@Jazabelle85 and you just judged him. Your making yourself sound like a child having a hissy fit. Stop embarrassing yourself. Your making unfounded points and anyone who goes and looks it up will see that.
By the way, I have a daughter of my own. She'll be 18 months on the eighth and she's the love of my life. And even though I'm a 26 year old single mother and my life is HARD due to constant work and stress, I am so happy I had her but cannot imagine if I had another child. I can't afford to be pregnant in any way right now. So don't judge me.
@Jazabelle85 How about not having sex? I never heard of sex being a need like food or water. I can judge because I'm the child of a single mother, and let me tell you, you'll never take away the resentment your child will have towards you for 1.) Bastardizing him/her and 2.) Not caring enough to procreate with a father who will want to be in their lives. I guess you want praise for making someone's life harder and preaching your feminist garbage of single mothers, shame on you.
@theone1087 It's people like Jazabelle that are ruining the woman of this country. Yep Jazabelle, I just judged you, and God will too. Do you even have any children Jaza? Do you know what you are even talking about?
@Jazabelle85 *clap clap clap* Keep looking for sympathy. Why don't you go and tend to your child or your job instead of trying to start an argument on a topic that gets you so heated?
@Theeatstohear, there's nothing "fallacious" about expecting my rights to be upheld. Furthermore, just because something is a law as defined by a society of people, doesn't mean it is something I have to agree with. As you well know being prolife. Laws are not always grounded in a place of morality, because everyone's definition of morality is relative, requiring people to be tolerant. It is my right to abort a fetus if I choose. Period.
He says that he's killing! A medical professional declares that abortion is murder, and yet our society tells mothers it's their 'choice' to "terminate the pregnancy". So it's legal to choose to kill probably the most innocent of is all!
AND YES THIS SUPPOSED DOCTOR SHOULD BE AFRAID, VERY AFRAID!! BECAUSE HE WHO MURDERS WILL BE MURDERED, HE HAD A CHOICE AND HE MADE IT! NOW LIE IN IT!! LIVE BY THE SWORD DIE BY THE SWORD!
THIS IS NOT A DOCTOR OR AN ORDAINED MINISTER HE IS A MURDERER!! AND IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MANY PRETTY WORDS HE SAYS, THE WORKS OF HIS HANDS SPEAK LOUDER, YOU ARE A MURDERER AND THE WORST KIND, MURDERING INNOCENT CHILDREN!! HE IS A HYPOCRITE WHITE WASHED TOMB STONE, FULL OF DEAD MEN'S BONES! HE IS NOT A CHRISTIAN THE WORK OF HIS HANDS ARE OF SATANISTS WHO SACRIFICE AND SKIN BABIES ALIVE AND EAT THEM! AND YOU WILL KNOW THEM BY THERE WORKS, YOU CAN TELL WHAT THEY ARE BY WHAT THEY DO!!
and what I want ? i want to change the fucking world . i want my children to grow up in a world where abortion dosnt meaning taking away a life of an unborn child .
that child couldve had a future . that child couldve grown up to be the president , a doctor that cured cancer ! but thanks to those damn people that think abortion is "okay" now we will NEVER knoe .
@ nishie: to make the argument that the "seed" of the rapist will "guarantee" that the rapist genes live on in the child, is to argue for selective infanticide. Your argument would be supported by people like Margaret Sanger, foundress of Planned Parenthood who, like Hitler, supported forced sterilization of "human weeds", and those they deemed unfit to live. You tread on a slippery slope here. Since it is human, it has the right to live. The child is the second victim of the rape if aborted.
It is, FOR THE MOST PART, their own fault that they are pregnant and should have to live with the fact that they started something they cant stop, and should not stop. Yes it is killing and anyone who knows biology know this. Don't tell me I'm taking away your rights because its not your right to kill.
to Jazabelle85: As a prolife individual, and upon discovering that you are pregnant by the violent act of rape, I would offer you the love and support I would offer any stranger. I would also remind you that the developing human in your womb is also YOUR child. He/she has unique DNA that is unlike any other human. He/she only needs a place to grow and develop. That's where you come in. Killing a child because of the circumstances surrounding his/her conception answers one evil with another
@lachooch71 I would offer that the fetus in your womb is an outcome of a brutal, violent act of rape, and by having that man's seed, you are guaranteeing his rapist/violent genes live on. You would not force another human being in any other circumstance to keep another being alive at your expense. For example, the violinist thought experiment. It is not "her" child she did not voluntarily opt to be raped, it was forced upon her.
@alielbaryeshua : Though I agree with most of your statement, and side with you on this issue, the Roe v. Wade decision made no comment on whether an unborn child was human or not. It merely stated that a woman has a right to privacy between she and her doctor, even if the private matter involved abortion. What we need in this country is a personhood bill be adopted by each state. Many are already doing this. It would protect a developing human's right to life during it's most fragile state.
@alielbaryeshua Your an idiot. You have the facts down correctly however the situation that is presented due to abortion should be like everything else in life: Individual Liberty and choice. Pro Lifers are people wanting to tell other people what they can and cant do with their own body's. Pro Choice people GENERALLY want individual freedoms. It seems you have confused the idea between tyranny and liberty. You may want to Google the differences between choice and coercion. ggnub
@alielbaryeshua Neither is it your body. Arguing with someone like you is like playing chess with a pigeon. You get mad, shit on the chess board and then fly away thinking you've won. And btw Ive never killed anyone so your 'pro deather' argument is null and void, just like your ability to think critically. Take a deep breathe, step back and think: If someone said 'Hey I dont care what you think, or how you feel Im demanding you do what I say" How is that different than tyranny?
@Blogrich55 xD Thats true. I guess the point im trying to get across is that normally Pro Lifers are so quick to say "I can tell you what to do but you cant tell me what to do ... nannie nannie boo boo" and then when someone tells THEM what to do they cry foul, get red in the face, and have a temper tantrum until people capitulate to them. These are generally the same people who think there's an invisible man in the sky who even if they act horribly in life will still be 1 w/theirGod
Pro-lifer's are so full of shit when does life begin? to them condoms and birth control is where it begins not when the sperm meets the egg..why don't you go and adopt those unwanted babies and not worry about a women's decision.
@SuperAZNthug : I can't speak for all Pro-lifers, but I can offer you a little insight here. No, we don't believe that life begins before sperm and egg meet. That's a ridiculous statement on your part. Second, many of us DO adopt "unwanted" children. By the way, there is no such thing as an unwanted child. There is always someone out there who will love your child, even if you won't. Lastly, if a woman's decision is to terminate her child's life, I do worry about it. Alot. So should you.
@lachooch71 theres no such thing as an unwanted child??!! thats some sugar-coated bullshit, seriously. if the creator of a being does not want it, it should be up to them to destroy it before it ever breathes earths air. the child shouldnt be subjected to the hope that someone will take care of it. many children are never adopted. let the unwanted life end before it ever knows this cruel world. that is much more HUMANE than throwing it into a lonely gauntlet of chance. PEACE
@Callmydoula, I'm not gonna argue with you about a HYPOTHETICAL scenario, I'll let you hold on to your stupid beliefs and I'll continue to carry mine. However, if fate should put you in the type of scenario we were discussing, I wouldn't inhibit YOUR choices, so why would you impose yours on me? By the way your logic is fundamentally retarded so I'm just gonna bow out of this one.
@ajesusfreak1 I'm not for abortion! I'm saying to the people that are for it.If you kill a 1 day old baby,it's murder but 1 day BEFORE it's born is an Abortion. Do you understand what I mean now? Peace be with you.
My friend was strangled by a preist in ER NY at bible school. Adultry in the bathrooms at Christian church. Catholics make up this BS claim purgatory....take peoples money for these masses to reduce time after life in purgatory. It is all made up. They just want more lives to take for themselves, that is religion. Yhwh is the claimed god in conflict with the gods of Canaan and man (Isreal) at ignorance chose this god yhwh. It is all myth stolen from Pagean and Egyptian tale
All religion is based of deception using fear. Religion is a cause of riot & conflict and why that other man was killled. I study CJ & crime 84% of the prison population are Christians and were at the time of their crimes. Religion needs to stay out of Public affairs. It is a tragedy that so many young girls are having so many babies, They are neglected, abused, used & abandoned. I am one who has suffered much by ignorant pregnancy. Many of these children will be on welfare, drugs & criminals.
@peytonkeithdaniels You know in Hosea 13:16 God wants the woman of Samaria with child to be ripped open? "Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up." (Hosea 13:16 KJV)
Your'e a doctor who KILLS? More like an idiot with a badge or a medical degree... And you think God approves of you killing unborn babies... You are an embarrassment to all Christians...
@peytonkeithdaniels retard: You know in Hosea 13:16 God wants the woman of Samaria with child to be ripped open? "Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up." (Hosea 13:16 KJV) God is not even real, the entire religion is rooted from pagean myths
@peytonkeithdaniels you dont even read the bible but are fooled by what you are told and the few verses you look at. YHWH was chosen by isreal men over gods in canaan. God is consistently depicted as the one who created the world and guides its history. monotheism apparently only developed around the time of the Babylonian exile of the 6th century BC. the Old Testament is about the ongoing struggle between the God of Israel and the gods of Canaan for the loyalty of the Israelites.
@peytonkeithdaniels stop running from the context of all of your religion...and seeing only what you want. Learn how to live on your own by using your own human moral and brain.
@MyDivineTruth I was sadly imposed by religion and christianity as a child and when my critical thinking kicked in and I read through that bible and studied the history, I left christianity. I am a criminal justice practitionor and volunteer for crisis. 84% of prisoners are christian as of the new census report. They all were christian at the time of their offenses. watch your preaching......
@MyDivineTruth If youre a criminal justice practitonor then surely you see it's an error in logic to assume that just because the majority of those people claimed to be christian it means that christianity is false.
Masturbation should be illegal and every sperm cell should be preserved and found a nice egg for fertilization. If not, that possible child will die and the people who killed the sperm are MURDERERS!
@Peaceeverbody It's not the sperm that's the baby, it's the sperm united with the egg that makes a baby. Hence the phrase : "Life begins at conception."
@ajesusfreak1 That sperm has the potential to unite with an egg, which will become a potential child. I was just showing the absurdity with the potential child pro-life argument.
@Peaceeverbody It does have that potential, but the sperm is just a cell until it unites. What absurdity? That killing millions of people (yes, the babies) each year is barbaric? We fight against mass genocides, hunger, AIDs and wars, yet cruelly kill a child in his mother's womb. What is wrong with society?
@ajesusfreak1 Fetuses killed in abortion cannot feel pain, nor are they sentient. Every time a woman does not get raped, she loses a potential child. Law enforcers prevent innocent children from living!
@Peaceeverbody : A sperm cell is just a sperm cell. An egg is just an egg. You have my permission to deplete yourself of either for the sake of all mankind.
@lachooch71 A sperm and egg cell have the potential to fertilize/be fertilized, becoming potential children. Therefore, they are potential potential children.
@vivotheammo Since when is one life more important than the other? Saves the Mother??? It was the mothers acts that created life? LIFE! What did the little life do to be put to death? Thou shall not kill! Get real!
Abortion is not murder. It saves mothers from possible death, and most cases will save a child from a terrible life. Shouldn't you outlaw periods or any ejaculation from a man then too? Those are potential lives. If you really don't think abortion is a viable option in certain cases, I think you should follow your own principles and not have any sort of sexual activity unless you are making a baby. So good luck with your sex lives. We all know Catholics are freaks in the bed, Cmon, rationality!
@vivotheammo - Man you're fucking stupid! You're so stupid you need to lie. You're so stupid you can't even look at the numbers. You're so stupid it's impossible for you to be correct on accident. You're just a know-nothing, useful idiot for Cultural Marxism whose brain is nothing but a wadded-up ball of bumper-sticker slogans.
He talks about getting death threats? Well, if he wasn't out killing innocent babies then he wouldn't be getting those death threats! He is a heartless, baby-killing parasite!
people want abortion to protect the rights and voices of women...really? they have a voice for themselves, they could have said "no" and prevented it, but as 99% of abortion cases are a form of birth control where the women GAVE CONSENT, i really have no putty for them having to go through an unwanted pregnancy, I'm here to speak for the unborn children who did not get to say "no" to the abortions brought upon them and I hope at least a decent amount of you are with me to protect infants rights
I am pro-life/pro-choice. I do believe there are instances where abortion is necessary, but I think all other options should be considered first. It should only be used as a last resort. Yes abortion is killing, but I am not so certain it is murder. Death comes to all living things. It is a fact of life. I think taking a life can be justified if it is saving another and isn't necessarily murder.
@Sobriqeut1999, I've discovered that its ALWAYS best to remain openminded in personal matters such as these. The more rigid, judgmental, or righteous we get with our beliefs, the more we seek to control and manipulate those who dissent. I personally am blown away that some people would have me carry a rapists fetus to term should I become pregnant. My philosophy is- think what you want and voice it in a respectful, non-threatening way, but don't impose your will on me or rob me of my freedoms.
So, then should we kill you if you're raped? Why have something sucking oxygen if they're tainted and a by-product of a rape? Oh, we shouldn't kill you because it's not your fault you were raped? You're still a human being with rights? Well, so is that man or woman growing inside you. What about their rights? Why can't they choose what happens with their bodies?
@Jazabelle85 All we are objecting to is the deaths of infants. The day we can't uphold morality and respect for life is the day we become less than human.
@Jazabelle85 So, open-mindedness trumps the life of another innocent human being? I've discovered that all the nice, politically correct words in the world (non-jugmental, respectful, open-minded) cannot cover up the fact that you want the "right" or "freedom" to demand that another human being be put to death. And as for your "right," legal and moral are not the same. The legal right you are defending, should never have been granted to you. It is evil.
@PANSEGRO it is not evil! the child does not yet have energy being exerted in the physical world. it does not harm society in any way, shape or form. i have 2 beautiful children and love them with all my being. when i see children whose parents dont have that same love it sickens me, but it is what it is. i personally know parents who would literally get rid of their children if it were socially acceptable and WOULD HAVE ABORTED if it werent for this same reason. the children suffer daily now !
@gmoneypeacefrog2 I hate to see children suffer too, but childhood is temporary. Do you think adults who were abused as children wish they were never born? ofc not.
@megamarsvin If abortions are ok up to 24 weeks whats the difference between 24 weeks and a couple of days or weeks before delivery?? Think about that. yes I feel terribly sorry for women who are raped but women who got caught up in the moment and oops...I'm pregnant? NO! women need to own up to their actions. Either don't have sex or be prepared to raise a child if bc fails! Maybe u should look up what happens durring any abortion! Sometimes the baby is still half alive after they "expell" it!!
@COULDNTthinkNAMEOFa You're sort of conflating two issues here. The vast majority of abortions are NOT late term abortions. Those are only performed in cases of extreme medical emergencies, not "oops well whatever let's just kill this damn baby."
Of course no one is in happy about abortions. But some of us can understand that in some cases it's the lesser evil. And if the baby has not yet developed, which is the case for almost all legal abortions, I don't see the problem.
@megamarsvin Children that are born with conditions that they will suffer from are a different story.There should be more restrictions on abortions;they should not be used as a form of birth control.Yes, some people do have abortions for fun,believe it not.One girl commented on how she likes to have unprotected sex when she is most fertile,because she likes the feeling of danger,and she's had 3 abortions.One girl said she got pregnant on purpose just to get an abortion.So Believe what you want.
@sweety4271984 I'm not defending that lifestyle, of course, but who gets to decide where we draw the line who's "allowed" an abortion and who isn't? The government? The doctor? You? Me?
Again, I don't agree with that way of life but at the same time I don't want to punish all women for the misbehavior of a few basket cases like that. I can't imagine the majority of women being that disconnected from normal human emotion (but I could be wrong there.)
@Jazabelle85 - A society of laws is a society that controls the freedoms of others. So-called "free societies" have "relative" freedom, not "absolute" freedom. This "don't impose your will on me or rob me of my freedoms" mantra is completely fallacious. Every law on the books is the imposition of codified will upon the bodily rights of others, whether it's a speed limit, a leash law or a law against murder.
Basically the pro-choice argument is The fetus isn't a person,but even it it were it doesn't matter because the woman's right to control her body is more important than the fetus's right to exist. The pro-life argument is that abortion is immoral and promotes immoral behavior BUT even if it doesn't the unborn babies RIGHT to exist temporarily outweighs the woman's right to absolute control of her body. So far I find the pro-life argument more compelling, But I'm still somewhat open minded.
Ah the Euphemisms service us well as history has proven. Verbal Reengineering worked on Slavery, Indians, Jews & now the most innocent & marginalized of them all, a baby in the womb.Its funny how we say "never again" then we do it again Different Rhetoric, different demographic, same outcome JPII was right we do live in a Culture of Death. You don't have to be religious to see it. Just use reason
You area MURDERER! And you will go to hell someday for it. Repent and sin no more! And you talk about death threats against you? YOU ARE a death threat!
A UNITARIAN? He thinks that is a religion. It's merely a man-made ideals that allows them to make any decision they want to and then try to justify it by saying they are a "religion". That is such crap! Unitarians just can't admit there is a God and it was formed as a protest against Jesus Christ. It is merely a "hate Christianity" group. ANYTHING but Jesus. He is lying to himself. Praying while he aborts babies? That's insanity.
@rrmjvand Unitarians believe in God but not the trinity. All religions are man-made and justify what they want. The Catholic Church systematically hide pedophiles for decades that allowed them attack more children. Abortion services are the choice of the woman.
To the doctor: Sir you are out of your mind! In the video you claim to be baptist, yet you admit to killing. What part of "thou shalt not kill" from God & his ten commandments isn't clear to you?!
I've noticed that homosexuality and abortion are both deeply connected for people of both parties hate the very heterosexuality and gestation of which they came from. Satan hates Gods plan for the man, woman and child family design.
@lowellkylewilliamson I'm pretty much pro-life, and I am for homosexuality I don't see any frickin connection. Where do you get that from? There is a group of homosexuals who is pro-life did you know that? If you want to know about it, google it. Abortion is a seperate issue entirely.
Its right to kill in order to preserve life like the allied forces killed the nazis who caused the holocaust. Abortion is killing lives that are not killing others unlike the nazis killing.
@amilynh4, it sickens me that someone would murder a man who spent his life helping women! Dr. Tiller and now this doctor are saving the lives of women in need. Thank god we have them.
I'm proud of what Dr. Boyd does and how much compassion and love he shows in caring for women and their health. I mourn the death and loss of Dr. Tiller.
@Suezee2, I was saying that to support war and the death penalty is hypocritical and a nonsequitor if you are pro-life. A point these pro-life dipshits never have a response for.
@Jazabelle85 I got a response for you, I dnt support either one of those. What exactly are you talking about that pro-lifers have no response, that was just the ones you talked to.
As a person from a country where aborton is 100% illegal (to the point where when a raped 9 year old girl ended up pregnant, the law forced her to continue with the pregnancy), I thank that this site exists Women for Web).
Yeah, it is not the best option. But it’s the only one we have.
@Amanda2324, actually, you pro-life dumbasses lose me all the time because you use the same tired logic to make a point and use inappropriate analogies as well as nonsequitors to impose your will on others. Your mentality belongs in the dark ages, THIS however, is the age of reason. Welcome to it. There's a reason abortion in legal!
@Jazabelle85 But pro-choicers pretty much just say the same thing as well. So really how is one side any less hypocritical than the other. I think both sides have issues, I'm pro-life and that's how I will always feel. What part do you get lost on? Killing with no good reason is just sad.
@Luckylondon12, the reason is- and try to follow along here- an UNBORN fetus IS NOT a fucking CHILD! It's as simple a that! Life doesn't begin at conception, if it did, any woman whose had more than one period would be a serial killer BECAUSE 80% of fertilized eggs are flushed out of the body. It's great that you've adopted children! Very goo of you! But don't you dare try to take away the rights of other women. Ok, did I lose you?
@Jazabelle85 Incorrect. Women's periods are a natural process. Women do not intentionally have periods. Murder is the -intentional- killing of a human being. And your argument fails - human life begins at conception regardless of whether or not women are falsely accused of being serial killers just because their bodies do something that is out of the control of the individuals. Abortion is NOT out of their control and it IS intentional. Okay, did I lose you?
This Doctor of Death is just crazy. Abortionist are liers. They believe that if you have the child it would be worse than killing the child. The facts are: You don't hear the neg the Pro-Choice people are afraid of the Truth. Do a search on Post Abortion mental health issues and see how many organizations our out there. Years after the abortion. Read Silent No More and Rachel's Vineyard. Then you will see the truth. I dare anyone to read some of the post.
@332star says: Do a search on Post Abortion mental health issues
~~~~~~~~~~~~ The APA concluded that abortion does not lead to increased mental health problems.Some proposed negative psychological effects of abortion have been referred to by anti-abortion advocates as a separate condition called "post-abortion syndrome." However, the existence of "post-abortion syndrome" is not recognized by any medical or psychological organization.
@332star says: Do a search on Post Abortion mental health issues
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Problems after an abortion are SELF induced! Recurrent and intrusive thoughts are a CHOICE for women! if they are not strong, self assured, intelligent, then they shouldn't abort. . many women make them selves feel bad as their personal punishment. They want it and need it, but dont blame abortion
@332star says: o a search on Post Abortion mental health issues
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Guilt & its effects are a is PSYCHOLOGICAL state in which one experiences emotional conflict at having done something!! Women perpetuate your OWN feeleings. . Guilt & its effects is not an indicator you have done something wrong, only that you have DECIDED to make it worng in your mind
@332star says: Do a search on Post Abortion mental health issues a
~~~~~~~~~~ Studies show the relationships of optimism, perceptions of personal control, and high self-esteem were all related to better postabortion adjustment, even many yeras after the fact. Women with high levels of mood disturbance PRIOR to abortion are at highest risk of post-abortal mood disorder.
@332star says: Do a search on Post Abortion mental health issues
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Some factors in a woman's life, such as lack of social support, pre-existing psychiatric illness, and conservative views on abortion increase the likelihood of experiencing negative feelings after an abortion. Thats the womans choice.
@332star says: Do a search on Post Abortion mental health issues /Read Silent No More and Rachel's Vineyard.
~~~~~~~~~~~ Rachels Vineyard promotes the guilt of abortion by making women name their fetuses and having a faux funeral for them ,along with talking about why they feel so bad and that feelings is always justified by the employees. The leaders of this group are no different than Jim Jones who bull shitted his followers to their deaths!!
@332star says: Read Silent No More and Rachel's Vineyard. Then you will see the truth
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LOLOL.... If that were the truth, abortion would end forever. So, why are their still 40 MILLIOn each yr worldwide? Think about THAT "truth" and why this s little insignificant, group isnt dong anyhting to end abortion and all its so called "horrors" Explain please.
@Luckylondon12, I am ALSO a mother. A mother who loves and adores her child and consciously chose to give her a chance at life, even though the circumstances were bleak. I also FIERCELY support a woman's right to choose. I loathe people like you who would label women who have had abortions as murderers. Especially when people like you ALSO support war and the subsequent killing of innocent people caught in the crossfire. Not go mention the fact that you probably support the death penalty. This
@Jazabelle85 Firstyl, I do NOT support war. I hate war in fact. I see nothing good that ever comes from killing innocent people OR children. I have three adopted children, so clearly I do care for life. I loathe people like you that think abortion is perfectly okay. How is killing an unborn child any different than killing an 18 year old in war? They are both being murdered are they not?
@luckylondon12 says: How is killing an unborn child any different than killing an 18 year old in war?
~~~~~~~~~~~ Perhaps your psychosis explains why you would equate a loved, loving, living, breathing human being, to an unknown entity with he consciousness level of a damned earthworm. Thats defined as not being comprehensible in terms of normal mental processes
Killing children? No. Killing fetuses (which are non-sentient, non-feeling and doesn't possess mental faculties or emotions, nor pain sensation), yes. Does he hurt the fetus or rob it of anything (and "life" is not an argument)? Not at all.
vgman94 20 hours ago
@vgman94 what about people in a coma?
TommonSensePro 10 hours ago
@Tommon I'll try to explain this as succinctly as I can: A comatose person, unless irreversibly brain dead, has a psyche - a dormant consciousness - that exists within it. That's how we dream when we sleep. But as a comatose person is more unconscious that a sleeping person, he/she doesn't dream. However, when they wake; they still return to awakeness with most of their personality, preferences (most of the time), tastes, emotional reactions and what-not intact. A person still exists in there.
vgman94 6 hours ago
Abortions from 9 and 10 year old's is NOT where he makes his living....
reagangal 1 day ago
@Chrismanuelis, what you said made no sense, you're going to pray for WHAT now?? And my belief of abortions...??
Jazabelle85 1 day ago
Let's see: Killing is bad, so let's send death threats. Way to go, Christians!
SubconsciousGatherer 1 day ago
@SubconsciousGatherer
Way to assume that all pro life people are Christian!
hieldjiv 1 day ago
@hieldjiv Thank you!
SubconsciousGatherer 1 day ago
We adopted our son after talking his mom out of the abortion scheduled for the next day. He's married now, going to college and so very grateful that he was not aborted.
nobleite 1 day ago
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Being a whore is one of the leading causes of murder.
jpayne68177 2 days ago
@chrismanuelis right
chrismanuelis 2 days ago
@Jazabelle85 somebody's angry and i will pray for disbelief for God and how you think abortion'sn
chrismanuelis 2 days ago
@Irisheyes0812, how the hell am I "ruining women of this country?" It's pontificating idiots like you pouting and whining about a legal procedure, who vote in bumbling ignoramuses like Bush. I do NOT want your goddamn sympathy, nor your "God" which I don't believe in, so take your fear-based God rhetoric and shove it up your ass.
Jazabelle85 2 days ago
You're all stupid.
No one in the government will ever care if your religion goes against abortion. All sane people, for that matter.
No one goes around waving a flag saying "GET AN ABORTION". It's a personal decision, and until you've experienced an unwanted pregnancy, go away.
HE HAD A NINE YEAR OLD WHO WAS CARRYING A FETIS!!! damn you, you pro-life people think you're drilling an idea into our heads. you're just wasting our time.
jukebox1322 2 days ago
@jukebox1322
"You're all stupid."
>fetis
BaillieMinecraft 2 days ago
@BaillieMinecraft May I have a point of clarification?
jukebox1322 1 day ago
@jukebox1322
Figure it out yourself. It's not that difficult.
BaillieMinecraft 1 day ago
@BaillieMinecraft May I have a point of clarification? What is "it" referring to?
jukebox1322 1 day ago
@BaillieMinecraft Are you mocking my retardation? Still, you refuse to make a clear statement *sigh*. It's people like you...
jukebox1322 7 hours ago
@jukebox1322
Yes, I'm mocking your retardation.
BaillieMinecraft 5 hours ago
Oh, and p.p.s. Shithead, if you REALLY think it's just a mother's responsibility to find a perfect father" then you're a narcoleptic simpleton living in a world of fallacy and delusion. Furthermore, prolifers like you would FORCE women to birth unwanted children whether by a good man or a bad man, consensual sex or rape. Everything you said was contradictory and unrealistic, and a cold shiver away from fascist. Watch it asshole.
Jazabelle85 3 days ago
@Jazabelle85 The lines get sticky when it comes to rape and incest. What I am against is woman who know FULL WELL that they will get pregnant, or can get pregnant. Simple, you don't want a baby, ABSTAIN. You almost had a good point...but it was drowned with the idiotic swearing. I got angry when I heard 24 weeks old....that is a baby. And that is murder. Plain and simple. Why the hell wait so long? Change your mind.
IrishEyes0812 2 days ago
@Theone1087, actually if you'd help yourself to a textbook you might learn that sex IS a NEED just like food and water, it is on the very bottom of Maslow's hierarchy of needs right next to food and shelter. Also, her father DIED in a car accident a year ago so, any other stupid shit you'd like to say about that?! Lastly, you still have zero right to judge me simply because you think you know what you're talking about, which you clearly don't. Shame on YOU.
Jazabelle85 3 days ago
@Jazabelle85 and you just judged him. Your making yourself sound like a child having a hissy fit. Stop embarrassing yourself. Your making unfounded points and anyone who goes and looks it up will see that.
IrishEyes0812 2 days ago
Baptist minister and abortionist.... makes sense to me.
gregoryserrano89 3 days ago
By the way, I have a daughter of my own. She'll be 18 months on the eighth and she's the love of my life. And even though I'm a 26 year old single mother and my life is HARD due to constant work and stress, I am so happy I had her but cannot imagine if I had another child. I can't afford to be pregnant in any way right now. So don't judge me.
Jazabelle85 3 days ago
@Jazabelle85 How about not having sex? I never heard of sex being a need like food or water. I can judge because I'm the child of a single mother, and let me tell you, you'll never take away the resentment your child will have towards you for 1.) Bastardizing him/her and 2.) Not caring enough to procreate with a father who will want to be in their lives. I guess you want praise for making someone's life harder and preaching your feminist garbage of single mothers, shame on you.
theone1087 3 days ago
@theone1087 It's people like Jazabelle that are ruining the woman of this country. Yep Jazabelle, I just judged you, and God will too. Do you even have any children Jaza? Do you know what you are even talking about?
IrishEyes0812 2 days ago
@Jazabelle85 *clap clap clap* Keep looking for sympathy. Why don't you go and tend to your child or your job instead of trying to start an argument on a topic that gets you so heated?
IrishEyes0812 2 days ago
@Theeatstohear, there's nothing "fallacious" about expecting my rights to be upheld. Furthermore, just because something is a law as defined by a society of people, doesn't mean it is something I have to agree with. As you well know being prolife. Laws are not always grounded in a place of morality, because everyone's definition of morality is relative, requiring people to be tolerant. It is my right to abort a fetus if I choose. Period.
Jazabelle85 3 days ago
this guy loves money,but its not gonna buy him his way outta hell
adrian14643 3 days ago
DO NOT KILL ! It is one of the ten commandments. Killing is a mortal sin.
cattolico37 3 days ago
He says that he's killing! A medical professional declares that abortion is murder, and yet our society tells mothers it's their 'choice' to "terminate the pregnancy". So it's legal to choose to kill probably the most innocent of is all!
throfruit 3 days ago
ordained baptist minister? he needs to quit what he is doing. Abortion is wrong it devastates all those involved.
olthoigangster 3 days ago
You as an ordained baptist miinister should be ashamed
God has a day of vengance
Viktorsiable 3 days ago 2
That interview sucked, very little time to hear WHY HE DOES IT. To bad it wasn't more of an interview and less of a news caster speaking.
lion575 3 days ago
he shouldnt even be called a doctor because doctors r spose to help people not kill them
beastnation209 4 days ago
That man is one cold-hearted murderer.
theearstohear 4 days ago 2
AND YES THIS SUPPOSED DOCTOR SHOULD BE AFRAID, VERY AFRAID!! BECAUSE HE WHO MURDERS WILL BE MURDERED, HE HAD A CHOICE AND HE MADE IT! NOW LIE IN IT!! LIVE BY THE SWORD DIE BY THE SWORD!
xavierz71 4 days ago
THIS IS NOT A DOCTOR OR AN ORDAINED MINISTER HE IS A MURDERER!! AND IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MANY PRETTY WORDS HE SAYS, THE WORKS OF HIS HANDS SPEAK LOUDER, YOU ARE A MURDERER AND THE WORST KIND, MURDERING INNOCENT CHILDREN!! HE IS A HYPOCRITE WHITE WASHED TOMB STONE, FULL OF DEAD MEN'S BONES! HE IS NOT A CHRISTIAN THE WORK OF HIS HANDS ARE OF SATANISTS WHO SACRIFICE AND SKIN BABIES ALIVE AND EAT THEM! AND YOU WILL KNOW THEM BY THERE WORKS, YOU CAN TELL WHAT THEY ARE BY WHAT THEY DO!!
xavierz71 4 days ago
and what I want ? i want to change the fucking world . i want my children to grow up in a world where abortion dosnt meaning taking away a life of an unborn child .
that child couldve had a future . that child couldve grown up to be the president , a doctor that cured cancer ! but thanks to those damn people that think abortion is "okay" now we will NEVER knoe .
this is coming from a 12 year old .
CaliKid3243 5 days ago
Technically its killing. Just like putting a bacterial cell in an extremely diluted solution.is "killing".
ItsOneInAMillion 5 days ago
@ nishie: to make the argument that the "seed" of the rapist will "guarantee" that the rapist genes live on in the child, is to argue for selective infanticide. Your argument would be supported by people like Margaret Sanger, foundress of Planned Parenthood who, like Hitler, supported forced sterilization of "human weeds", and those they deemed unfit to live. You tread on a slippery slope here. Since it is human, it has the right to live. The child is the second victim of the rape if aborted.
lachooch71 5 days ago
It is, FOR THE MOST PART, their own fault that they are pregnant and should have to live with the fact that they started something they cant stop, and should not stop. Yes it is killing and anyone who knows biology know this. Don't tell me I'm taking away your rights because its not your right to kill.
devmanl 5 days ago
to Jazabelle85: As a prolife individual, and upon discovering that you are pregnant by the violent act of rape, I would offer you the love and support I would offer any stranger. I would also remind you that the developing human in your womb is also YOUR child. He/she has unique DNA that is unlike any other human. He/she only needs a place to grow and develop. That's where you come in. Killing a child because of the circumstances surrounding his/her conception answers one evil with another
lachooch71 5 days ago
@lachooch71 I would offer that the fetus in your womb is an outcome of a brutal, violent act of rape, and by having that man's seed, you are guaranteeing his rapist/violent genes live on. You would not force another human being in any other circumstance to keep another being alive at your expense. For example, the violinist thought experiment. It is not "her" child she did not voluntarily opt to be raped, it was forced upon her.
Nishie900 5 days ago
All doctors take the hypocratic oath. if he admits he is killing, he could lose his license.
In 1898, the U.S. supreme court declared that negroes were not human, and not disserving of rights.
in 1973, US supreme court declared that unborn were not human, and not disserving of rights.
It seems the Pro-Life movement is the modern day abolistionist movement,
and the pro-abortion group are the modern day plantation owners.
alielbaryeshua 6 days ago 2
@alielbaryeshua : Though I agree with most of your statement, and side with you on this issue, the Roe v. Wade decision made no comment on whether an unborn child was human or not. It merely stated that a woman has a right to privacy between she and her doctor, even if the private matter involved abortion. What we need in this country is a personhood bill be adopted by each state. Many are already doing this. It would protect a developing human's right to life during it's most fragile state.
lachooch71 5 days ago
@alielbaryeshua Your an idiot. You have the facts down correctly however the situation that is presented due to abortion should be like everything else in life: Individual Liberty and choice. Pro Lifers are people wanting to tell other people what they can and cant do with their own body's. Pro Choice people GENERALLY want individual freedoms. It seems you have confused the idea between tyranny and liberty. You may want to Google the differences between choice and coercion. ggnub
KidWiThRoCk 5 days ago
@KidWiThRoCk And thats exactly where YOU ARE WRONG.
You pro-deathers keep saying that "Its my body, and I'll do what I want!"
But you are hypocrite! Because the unborn child has a SEPARATE BODY, SEPARATE DNA, AND SEPARATE HEARTBEAT.
NOT YOUR BODY!
NOT YOUR CHOICE!
alielbaryeshua 4 days ago
@alielbaryeshua Neither is it your body. Arguing with someone like you is like playing chess with a pigeon. You get mad, shit on the chess board and then fly away thinking you've won. And btw Ive never killed anyone so your 'pro deather' argument is null and void, just like your ability to think critically. Take a deep breathe, step back and think: If someone said 'Hey I dont care what you think, or how you feel Im demanding you do what I say" How is that different than tyranny?
KidWiThRoCk 4 days ago
@KidWiThRoCk "f someone said 'Hey I dont care what you think, or how you feel Im demanding you do what I say" How is that different than tyranny?"
The IRS does this all the time LOL
Blogrich55 4 days ago
@Blogrich55 xD Thats true. I guess the point im trying to get across is that normally Pro Lifers are so quick to say "I can tell you what to do but you cant tell me what to do ... nannie nannie boo boo" and then when someone tells THEM what to do they cry foul, get red in the face, and have a temper tantrum until people capitulate to them. These are generally the same people who think there's an invisible man in the sky who even if they act horribly in life will still be 1 w/theirGod
KidWiThRoCk 4 days ago
weird!
TheLaLasProductions 6 days ago
Pro-lifer's are so full of shit when does life begin? to them condoms and birth control is where it begins not when the sperm meets the egg..why don't you go and adopt those unwanted babies and not worry about a women's decision.
SuperAZNthug 6 days ago
@SuperAZNthug : I can't speak for all Pro-lifers, but I can offer you a little insight here. No, we don't believe that life begins before sperm and egg meet. That's a ridiculous statement on your part. Second, many of us DO adopt "unwanted" children. By the way, there is no such thing as an unwanted child. There is always someone out there who will love your child, even if you won't. Lastly, if a woman's decision is to terminate her child's life, I do worry about it. Alot. So should you.
lachooch71 5 days ago
@lachooch71 theres no such thing as an unwanted child??!! thats some sugar-coated bullshit, seriously. if the creator of a being does not want it, it should be up to them to destroy it before it ever breathes earths air. the child shouldnt be subjected to the hope that someone will take care of it. many children are never adopted. let the unwanted life end before it ever knows this cruel world. that is much more HUMANE than throwing it into a lonely gauntlet of chance. PEACE
gmoneypeacefrog2 5 days ago
@Callmydoula, I'm not gonna argue with you about a HYPOTHETICAL scenario, I'll let you hold on to your stupid beliefs and I'll continue to carry mine. However, if fate should put you in the type of scenario we were discussing, I wouldn't inhibit YOUR choices, so why would you impose yours on me? By the way your logic is fundamentally retarded so I'm just gonna bow out of this one.
Jazabelle85 6 days ago
24 weeks??!?!
Oh my god...
Zaruk5678 6 days ago
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Every time a woman does not get raped, she loses a potential child. Law enforcers prevent innocent children from living!
Peaceeverbody 6 days ago
Disgusting! You they say Mein Fuhrer was evil. Mein Fuhrer would not approve of this.
HitleriteNazi 1 week ago
If its inside the body it's abortion but if its outside the body,it's murder.
sweet161402 1 week ago
@sweet161402 That makes no sense. Life is precious, no matter where it is. Life is a beautiful gift.
ajesusfreak1 6 days ago
@ajesusfreak1 I'm not for abortion! I'm saying to the people that are for it.If you kill a 1 day old baby,it's murder but 1 day BEFORE it's born is an Abortion. Do you understand what I mean now? Peace be with you.
sweet161402 6 days ago
@sweet161402 Yeah, rock on fellow pro-lifer!!!
ajesusfreak1 6 days ago
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My friend was strangled by a preist in ER NY at bible school. Adultry in the bathrooms at Christian church. Catholics make up this BS claim purgatory....take peoples money for these masses to reduce time after life in purgatory. It is all made up. They just want more lives to take for themselves, that is religion. Yhwh is the claimed god in conflict with the gods of Canaan and man (Isreal) at ignorance chose this god yhwh. It is all myth stolen from Pagean and Egyptian tale
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All religion is based of deception using fear. Religion is a cause of riot & conflict and why that other man was killled. I study CJ & crime 84% of the prison population are Christians and were at the time of their crimes. Religion needs to stay out of Public affairs. It is a tragedy that so many young girls are having so many babies, They are neglected, abused, used & abandoned. I am one who has suffered much by ignorant pregnancy. Many of these children will be on welfare, drugs & criminals.
MyDivineTruth 1 week ago
@MyDivineTruth and yet none of that justifies murder.
Sandy28815 1 week ago
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MyDivineTruth 1 week ago
hey congress/law makers, never let a little justice interfere with the law.
felicetanka 1 week ago
@peytonkeithdaniels You know in Hosea 13:16 God wants the woman of Samaria with child to be ripped open? "Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up." (Hosea 13:16 KJV)
Peaceeverbody 1 week ago
Catholics hate abortion because there are less kids to rape.
l337pwnage 1 week ago in playlist Abortion - Be informed
@l337pwnage shut up pig. you think you're funny but you're an uneducated, uninformed moron
pfirlik 5 days ago
@pfirlik wow, another graduate of the internet school of namecalling, lol. Its sad that you think child rape is funny, you must be a christian.
l337pwnage 4 days ago
People don't respect the sanctity of human life.
DavKellar 1 week ago
Your'e a doctor who KILLS? More like an idiot with a badge or a medical degree... And you think God approves of you killing unborn babies... You are an embarrassment to all Christians...
peytonkeithdaniels 1 week ago
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@peytonkeithdaniels retard: You know in Hosea 13:16 God wants the woman of Samaria with child to be ripped open? "Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up." (Hosea 13:16 KJV) God is not even real, the entire religion is rooted from pagean myths
MyDivineTruth 1 week ago
@peytonkeithdaniels you dont even read the bible but are fooled by what you are told and the few verses you look at. YHWH was chosen by isreal men over gods in canaan. God is consistently depicted as the one who created the world and guides its history. monotheism apparently only developed around the time of the Babylonian exile of the 6th century BC. the Old Testament is about the ongoing struggle between the God of Israel and the gods of Canaan for the loyalty of the Israelites.
MyDivineTruth 1 week ago
@peytonkeithdaniels stop running from the context of all of your religion...and seeing only what you want. Learn how to live on your own by using your own human moral and brain.
MyDivineTruth 1 week ago
@MyDivineTruth you are an ebarrassment to yourself and continue to prove why christianity is ignorant. You dont think!
MyDivineTruth 1 week ago
@MyDivineTruth I was sadly imposed by religion and christianity as a child and when my critical thinking kicked in and I read through that bible and studied the history, I left christianity. I am a criminal justice practitionor and volunteer for crisis. 84% of prisoners are christian as of the new census report. They all were christian at the time of their offenses. watch your preaching......
MyDivineTruth 1 week ago
@MyDivineTruth If youre a criminal justice practitonor then surely you see it's an error in logic to assume that just because the majority of those people claimed to be christian it means that christianity is false.
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Every time a woman does not get raped, she loses a potential child. Law enforcers prevent innocent children from living!
Peaceeverbody 1 week ago
Masturbation should be illegal and every sperm cell should be preserved and found a nice egg for fertilization. If not, that possible child will die and the people who killed the sperm are MURDERERS!
Peaceeverbody 1 week ago
@Peaceeverbody
LOL
brittanyverjes1 1 week ago
@Peaceeverbody Can I share this comment with my friends?
Elikam82 1 week ago
@Peaceeverbody I want to share with them how unbelievably stupid society has become. Thanks...I'll be doing some cut, copy, paste with this one.
Elikam82 1 week ago
@Peaceeverbody It's not the sperm that's the baby, it's the sperm united with the egg that makes a baby. Hence the phrase : "Life begins at conception."
ajesusfreak1 6 days ago
@ajesusfreak1 That sperm has the potential to unite with an egg, which will become a potential child. I was just showing the absurdity with the potential child pro-life argument.
Peaceeverbody 6 days ago
@Peaceeverbody It does have that potential, but the sperm is just a cell until it unites. What absurdity? That killing millions of people (yes, the babies) each year is barbaric? We fight against mass genocides, hunger, AIDs and wars, yet cruelly kill a child in his mother's womb. What is wrong with society?
ajesusfreak1 6 days ago
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@ajesusfreak1 Fetuses killed in abortion cannot feel pain, nor are they sentient. Every time a woman does not get raped, she loses a potential child. Law enforcers prevent innocent children from living!
Peaceeverbody 6 days ago
@Peaceeverbody : A sperm cell is just a sperm cell. An egg is just an egg. You have my permission to deplete yourself of either for the sake of all mankind.
lachooch71 5 days ago 2
@lachooch71 A sperm and egg cell have the potential to fertilize/be fertilized, becoming potential children. Therefore, they are potential potential children.
Peaceeverbody 5 days ago
@vivotheammo Since when is one life more important than the other? Saves the Mother??? It was the mothers acts that created life? LIFE! What did the little life do to be put to death? Thou shall not kill! Get real!
julie7156 1 week ago
Abortion is not murder. It saves mothers from possible death, and most cases will save a child from a terrible life. Shouldn't you outlaw periods or any ejaculation from a man then too? Those are potential lives. If you really don't think abortion is a viable option in certain cases, I think you should follow your own principles and not have any sort of sexual activity unless you are making a baby. So good luck with your sex lives. We all know Catholics are freaks in the bed, Cmon, rationality!
vivotheammo 1 week ago
@vivotheammo - Man you're fucking stupid! You're so stupid you need to lie. You're so stupid you can't even look at the numbers. You're so stupid it's impossible for you to be correct on accident. You're just a know-nothing, useful idiot for Cultural Marxism whose brain is nothing but a wadded-up ball of bumper-sticker slogans.
thomaserossi 1 week ago
@vivotheammo LOL How old are you?
Elikam82 1 week ago
He talks about getting death threats? Well, if he wasn't out killing innocent babies then he wouldn't be getting those death threats! He is a heartless, baby-killing parasite!
bluemoondiscount 1 week ago
hey Boyd, why don't you pick on someone your own size
ledzelda9 1 week ago
people want abortion to protect the rights and voices of women...really? they have a voice for themselves, they could have said "no" and prevented it, but as 99% of abortion cases are a form of birth control where the women GAVE CONSENT, i really have no putty for them having to go through an unwanted pregnancy, I'm here to speak for the unborn children who did not get to say "no" to the abortions brought upon them and I hope at least a decent amount of you are with me to protect infants rights
ledzelda9 1 week ago
How can a doctor admit to killing? That goes against the Hippocratic oath where they swear to protect all life
dk2853 1 week ago
I guess you think because you're a minister...you are God!
Well think again!!!
SallyM65 1 week ago
I am pro-life/pro-choice. I do believe there are instances where abortion is necessary, but I think all other options should be considered first. It should only be used as a last resort. Yes abortion is killing, but I am not so certain it is murder. Death comes to all living things. It is a fact of life. I think taking a life can be justified if it is saving another and isn't necessarily murder.
blaznlex1 1 week ago
@Sobriqeut1999, I've discovered that its ALWAYS best to remain openminded in personal matters such as these. The more rigid, judgmental, or righteous we get with our beliefs, the more we seek to control and manipulate those who dissent. I personally am blown away that some people would have me carry a rapists fetus to term should I become pregnant. My philosophy is- think what you want and voice it in a respectful, non-threatening way, but don't impose your will on me or rob me of my freedoms.
Jazabelle85 1 week ago 9
So, then should we kill you if you're raped? Why have something sucking oxygen if they're tainted and a by-product of a rape? Oh, we shouldn't kill you because it's not your fault you were raped? You're still a human being with rights? Well, so is that man or woman growing inside you. What about their rights? Why can't they choose what happens with their bodies?
CallMyDoula 6 days ago
@Jazabelle85 All we are objecting to is the deaths of infants. The day we can't uphold morality and respect for life is the day we become less than human.
JaykSzarii 5 days ago
@Jazabelle85 So, open-mindedness trumps the life of another innocent human being? I've discovered that all the nice, politically correct words in the world (non-jugmental, respectful, open-minded) cannot cover up the fact that you want the "right" or "freedom" to demand that another human being be put to death. And as for your "right," legal and moral are not the same. The legal right you are defending, should never have been granted to you. It is evil.
PANSEGRO 5 days ago
@PANSEGRO it is not evil! the child does not yet have energy being exerted in the physical world. it does not harm society in any way, shape or form. i have 2 beautiful children and love them with all my being. when i see children whose parents dont have that same love it sickens me, but it is what it is. i personally know parents who would literally get rid of their children if it were socially acceptable and WOULD HAVE ABORTED if it werent for this same reason. the children suffer daily now !
gmoneypeacefrog2 5 days ago
@gmoneypeacefrog2 I hate to see children suffer too, but childhood is temporary. Do you think adults who were abused as children wish they were never born? ofc not.
sweety4271984 4 days ago
@sweety4271984 What about children who will never grow out of suffering or who will only live for a few weeks or months of agonizing pain?
And what gives you more right to decide what's right and wrong than the actual parents? You think abortions are done for fun?
Believe whatever you want just don't force me to live by your beliefs and I won't force you to live by mine.
megamarsvin 3 days ago
@megamarsvin If abortions are ok up to 24 weeks whats the difference between 24 weeks and a couple of days or weeks before delivery?? Think about that. yes I feel terribly sorry for women who are raped but women who got caught up in the moment and oops...I'm pregnant? NO! women need to own up to their actions. Either don't have sex or be prepared to raise a child if bc fails! Maybe u should look up what happens durring any abortion! Sometimes the baby is still half alive after they "expell" it!!
COULDNTthinkNAMEOFa 3 days ago
@COULDNTthinkNAMEOFa You're sort of conflating two issues here. The vast majority of abortions are NOT late term abortions. Those are only performed in cases of extreme medical emergencies, not "oops well whatever let's just kill this damn baby."
Of course no one is in happy about abortions. But some of us can understand that in some cases it's the lesser evil. And if the baby has not yet developed, which is the case for almost all legal abortions, I don't see the problem.
megamarsvin 3 days ago
@megamarsvin Children that are born with conditions that they will suffer from are a different story.There should be more restrictions on abortions;they should not be used as a form of birth control.Yes, some people do have abortions for fun,believe it not.One girl commented on how she likes to have unprotected sex when she is most fertile,because she likes the feeling of danger,and she's had 3 abortions.One girl said she got pregnant on purpose just to get an abortion.So Believe what you want.
sweety4271984 2 days ago
@sweety4271984 I'm not defending that lifestyle, of course, but who gets to decide where we draw the line who's "allowed" an abortion and who isn't? The government? The doctor? You? Me?
Again, I don't agree with that way of life but at the same time I don't want to punish all women for the misbehavior of a few basket cases like that. I can't imagine the majority of women being that disconnected from normal human emotion (but I could be wrong there.)
megamarsvin 2 days ago
@Jazabelle85 - A society of laws is a society that controls the freedoms of others. So-called "free societies" have "relative" freedom, not "absolute" freedom. This "don't impose your will on me or rob me of my freedoms" mantra is completely fallacious. Every law on the books is the imposition of codified will upon the bodily rights of others, whether it's a speed limit, a leash law or a law against murder.
theearstohear 4 days ago
Much respect to Dr. Boyd, you are a true hero.
Halocuber 1 week ago 2
@Halocuber That's sarcasm, right...? lol
ThisIsShar 1 week ago
@Halocuber Are you retarded? MURDER! MURDER! RETARDS all over youtube!
Elikam82 1 week ago
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Basically the pro-choice argument is The fetus isn't a person,but even it it were it doesn't matter because the woman's right to control her body is more important than the fetus's right to exist. The pro-life argument is that abortion is immoral and promotes immoral behavior BUT even if it doesn't the unborn babies RIGHT to exist temporarily outweighs the woman's right to absolute control of her body. So far I find the pro-life argument more compelling, But I'm still somewhat open minded.
sobriquet1999 1 week ago
@teton99 well said.
Hayesmarkham 1 week ago
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Choice=Murder
Unwanted=Murder
My Body= “”
Unplanned= “”
Equality = “”
Reproductive Rights = “”
Ah the Euphemisms service us well as history has proven. Verbal Reengineering worked on Slavery, Indians, Jews & now the most innocent & marginalized of them all, a baby in the womb.Its funny how we say "never again" then we do it again Different Rhetoric, different demographic, same outcome JPII was right we do live in a Culture of Death. You don't have to be religious to see it. Just use reason
teton99 1 week ago
No, you don't want to die. Really? You make me sick
lindamcd1217 1 week ago
@lindamcd1217 a LOT of people must make you sick then
CreedBalboa 1 week ago
You area MURDERER! And you will go to hell someday for it. Repent and sin no more! And you talk about death threats against you? YOU ARE a death threat!
lindamcd1217 1 week ago
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lindamcd1217 1 week ago
he looks more like a serial killer. Shame on you!
lindamcd1217 1 week ago
Go to YouTube and type in Pam Stenzel's Testimony.
rrmjvand 1 week ago
A UNITARIAN? He thinks that is a religion. It's merely a man-made ideals that allows them to make any decision they want to and then try to justify it by saying they are a "religion". That is such crap! Unitarians just can't admit there is a God and it was formed as a protest against Jesus Christ. It is merely a "hate Christianity" group. ANYTHING but Jesus. He is lying to himself. Praying while he aborts babies? That's insanity.
rrmjvand 1 week ago 10
@rrmjvand No, insanity is doing the same fucking thing over and over again, and expecting shit to change.
TheGoodThought 1 week ago
@rrmjvand Unitarians believe in God but not the trinity. All religions are man-made and justify what they want. The Catholic Church systematically hide pedophiles for decades that allowed them attack more children. Abortion services are the choice of the woman.
If you detest the practice then don't get one.
RuleofFive 5 days ago
To the doctor: Sir you are out of your mind! In the video you claim to be baptist, yet you admit to killing. What part of "thou shalt not kill" from God & his ten commandments isn't clear to you?!
genia232011 1 week ago
if gross men would get punished properly for raping girls then this drs services wouldnt be needed!!!! blame the real villians!!!!
jgoetz123 1 week ago
I've noticed that homosexuality and abortion are both deeply connected for people of both parties hate the very heterosexuality and gestation of which they came from. Satan hates Gods plan for the man, woman and child family design.
lowellkylewilliamson 1 week ago
@lowellkylewilliamson I'm pretty much pro-life, and I am for homosexuality I don't see any frickin connection. Where do you get that from? There is a group of homosexuals who is pro-life did you know that? If you want to know about it, google it. Abortion is a seperate issue entirely.
TelluluSnape 1 week ago
Its right to kill in order to preserve life like the allied forces killed the nazis who caused the holocaust. Abortion is killing lives that are not killing others unlike the nazis killing.
lowellkylewilliamson 1 week ago
@amilynh4, it sickens me that someone would murder a man who spent his life helping women! Dr. Tiller and now this doctor are saving the lives of women in need. Thank god we have them.
Jazabelle85 1 week ago
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I'm proud of what Dr. Boyd does and how much compassion and love he shows in caring for women and their health. I mourn the death and loss of Dr. Tiller.
amilynh4 1 week ago
@Suezee2, I was saying that to support war and the death penalty is hypocritical and a nonsequitor if you are pro-life. A point these pro-life dipshits never have a response for.
Jazabelle85 1 week ago
@Jazabelle85 I got a response for you, I dnt support either one of those. What exactly are you talking about that pro-lifers have no response, that was just the ones you talked to.
KasaiKendia 1 week ago
As a person from a country where aborton is 100% illegal (to the point where when a raped 9 year old girl ended up pregnant, the law forced her to continue with the pregnancy), I thank that this site exists Women for Web).
Yeah, it is not the best option. But it’s the only one we have.
geezusispan 1 week ago
@Amanda2324, actually, you pro-life dumbasses lose me all the time because you use the same tired logic to make a point and use inappropriate analogies as well as nonsequitors to impose your will on others. Your mentality belongs in the dark ages, THIS however, is the age of reason. Welcome to it. There's a reason abortion in legal!
Jazabelle85 1 week ago
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@Jazabelle85 says: Your mentality belongs in the dark ages, THIS however, is the age of reason. Welcome to it.
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Sueezee2 1 week ago
@Jazabelle85 But pro-choicers pretty much just say the same thing as well. So really how is one side any less hypocritical than the other. I think both sides have issues, I'm pro-life and that's how I will always feel. What part do you get lost on? Killing with no good reason is just sad.
KasaiKendia 1 week ago
@Luckylondon12, the reason is- and try to follow along here- an UNBORN fetus IS NOT a fucking CHILD! It's as simple a that! Life doesn't begin at conception, if it did, any woman whose had more than one period would be a serial killer BECAUSE 80% of fertilized eggs are flushed out of the body. It's great that you've adopted children! Very goo of you! But don't you dare try to take away the rights of other women. Ok, did I lose you?
Jazabelle85 2 weeks ago
@Jazabelle85 Incorrect. Women's periods are a natural process. Women do not intentionally have periods. Murder is the -intentional- killing of a human being. And your argument fails - human life begins at conception regardless of whether or not women are falsely accused of being serial killers just because their bodies do something that is out of the control of the individuals. Abortion is NOT out of their control and it IS intentional. Okay, did I lose you?
amanda2324 1 week ago
This Doctor of Death is just crazy. Abortionist are liers. They believe that if you have the child it would be worse than killing the child. The facts are: You don't hear the neg the Pro-Choice people are afraid of the Truth. Do a search on Post Abortion mental health issues and see how many organizations our out there. Years after the abortion. Read Silent No More and Rachel's Vineyard. Then you will see the truth. I dare anyone to read some of the post.
332star 2 weeks ago
@332star says: Do a search on Post Abortion mental health issues
~~~~~~~~~~~~ The APA concluded that abortion does not lead to increased mental health problems.Some proposed negative psychological effects of abortion have been referred to by anti-abortion advocates as a separate condition called "post-abortion syndrome." However, the existence of "post-abortion syndrome" is not recognized by any medical or psychological organization.
Sueezee2 1 week ago
@332star says: Do a search on Post Abortion mental health issues
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Problems after an abortion are SELF induced! Recurrent and intrusive thoughts are a CHOICE for women! if they are not strong, self assured, intelligent, then they shouldn't abort. . many women make them selves feel bad as their personal punishment. They want it and need it, but dont blame abortion
Sueezee2 1 week ago
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@332star says: o a search on Post Abortion mental health issues
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Guilt & its effects are a is PSYCHOLOGICAL state in which one experiences emotional conflict at having done something!! Women perpetuate your OWN feeleings. . Guilt & its effects is not an indicator you have done something wrong, only that you have DECIDED to make it worng in your mind
Sueezee2 1 week ago
@332star says: Do a search on Post Abortion mental health issues a
~~~~~~~~~~ Studies show the relationships of optimism, perceptions of personal control, and high self-esteem were all related to better postabortion adjustment, even many yeras after the fact. Women with high levels of mood disturbance PRIOR to abortion are at highest risk of post-abortal mood disorder.
Sueezee2 1 week ago
@332star says: Do a search on Post Abortion mental health issues
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Some factors in a woman's life, such as lack of social support, pre-existing psychiatric illness, and conservative views on abortion increase the likelihood of experiencing negative feelings after an abortion. Thats the womans choice.
Sueezee2 1 week ago
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@332star says: Do a search on Post Abortion mental health issues /Read Silent No More and Rachel's Vineyard.
~~~~~~~~~~~ Rachels Vineyard promotes the guilt of abortion by making women name their fetuses and having a faux funeral for them ,along with talking about why they feel so bad and that feelings is always justified by the employees. The leaders of this group are no different than Jim Jones who bull shitted his followers to their deaths!!
Sueezee2 1 week ago
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@332star says: Read Silent No More and Rachel's Vineyard. Then you will see the truth
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LOLOL.... If that were the truth, abortion would end forever. So, why are their still 40 MILLIOn each yr worldwide? Think about THAT "truth" and why this s little insignificant, group isnt dong anyhting to end abortion and all its so called "horrors" Explain please.
Sueezee2 1 week ago
@332star says: Rachel's Vineyard.
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\ They council pregnant women and tell them about the depression that may happen if they abort! LOLOl,
Sueezee2 1 week ago
Is the epitome of hypocrisy!
Jazabelle85 2 weeks ago
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Whats hypocritical about knowing your killing and still do it?? He never said he hated the killing....THAT wold be hypocritical.
Sueezee2 1 week ago
@Luckylondon12, I am ALSO a mother. A mother who loves and adores her child and consciously chose to give her a chance at life, even though the circumstances were bleak. I also FIERCELY support a woman's right to choose. I loathe people like you who would label women who have had abortions as murderers. Especially when people like you ALSO support war and the subsequent killing of innocent people caught in the crossfire. Not go mention the fact that you probably support the death penalty. This
Jazabelle85 2 weeks ago
@Jazabelle85 Firstyl, I do NOT support war. I hate war in fact. I see nothing good that ever comes from killing innocent people OR children. I have three adopted children, so clearly I do care for life. I loathe people like you that think abortion is perfectly okay. How is killing an unborn child any different than killing an 18 year old in war? They are both being murdered are they not?
luckylondon12 2 weeks ago 2
@luckylondon12 says: I have three adopted children
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Sueezee2 1 week ago
@luckylondon12 says: How is killing an unborn child any different than killing an 18 year old in war?
~~~~~~~~~~~ Perhaps your psychosis explains why you would equate a loved, loving, living, breathing human being, to an unknown entity with he consciousness level of a damned earthworm. Thats defined as not being comprehensible in terms of normal mental processes
Sueezee2 1 week ago
@Jazabelle85 But what about the pro-lifers who don't do that hm?
KasaiKendia 1 week ago