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  • Of course I'm going to get lewd comments on what I'm about to say, but that's ok. :) I'm not a Freemason first off. What I have known for a long time is that the Mason name has been drug threw the mud by these scum called Zionists for quite a while. It is NOT the organization of Masons that push this agenda. Like everything else, these Zionist infiltrated the Masons. Masons found out and kicked them out. It's history, folks. Mason name just happens to be associated. Just like Israel and USA.

  • Youtube search RIK CLAY for more info on the symbolism and agenda of the 2012 London Olympics.

    FYI...Months after Rik started publically exposing the zionist symbolism, this twentysomething year old "committed suicide".

  • yeah right, because before the 19th century, jews were not persecuted for killing children and trying to take over the world.

    for those who didn't get the sarcasm, Zionism only goes back to the late 1800's. It doesn't go back that far. Judaism on the other hand goes back THOUSANDS of years. All the way back to ancient egypt where jews were spreading plagues and killing pharaohs. before man invented language he was warning us of the jew. wake up people, don't buy here snake oil.

  • Ahahahaahhha.........

  • Synogouge of Satan usury system slavery all races unite against Zionism

  • i see a dinosaur and a turtle. Where did anybody get the idea of being a distorted (sorry if misspelled) Swastika? I see a regular logo.

  • Tax "Sucked" Anyway :)

  • How come you are not afraid of the elites who in the past have killed presidents? Hmmm?

  • Haha can't stop laughing, this video is hilarious.

  • @SuddenlyGoats Do you think that these clues were available even 20 years ago? NO!! There was no mass media/alternative media forums like the internet to spread the bad news about secret societies. Thats why internet 2, or at least internet censorship is on the rise. Wake up.

  • I don't have a problem with one world government if it is benevolent...but the agenda makers are malevolent to the core. That's the issue.

  • @AmenstopProductions its more than that bro. the anti-christ will come and say hes the messiah, he will even have special powers to have us pple fall or it, then hell make everyone taken the mark of the beast.666....

  • @AmenstopProductions If you are American, you SHOULD have a problem with this. We are the only nation "created under god" (meaning god-given rights), and who have a constitution protecting those god-given rights. Doesn't matter who your god is or if you even believe in God...our constitution would be torn to shreds making us all pieces in their game; slaves, essentially!

  • Why cant we have a one world government??? - why is that bad in a world divided. I am for a one world government - seriously... we need to unite as one people on this planet. Its only the fascist natzi rule that sound like a shitty deal to me...

  • MARK MY WORDS 2012 olympic will have A FALSE FLAG TERROR ATTACK!

  • The pope is the anti christ which our LORD JESUS CHRIST warned us of. The pope vatican and jesuits control the new world order. They are satan worshippers who control the freemasons illumanati the economy of the us and europe. They control the media the military ,cia,nsa ,fbi, They control everything. The eye of lucifer on the dollar bill is put there by jesuits who worship satan they have the same symbol in the vatican thats why the dollar is covered with latin phrases the popes language

  • @vladimirkovalski his name is Yahuwshua, and the Father is Yahweh. Jesus translates to hey zues in greek and nothing in hebrew.

  • @SuddenlyGoats Their secret is out so they are  controlling the flow of information as "conspiracy theory" nonsense - mixing truth/ lies/misinformation and creating a powerful "mystique" about themselves. Conspiracy addicts focus on "evil doers" and "evil deeds". The Universal Law of Attraction says "we attract what we focus on and expect". People collectively expect an apocalypse, war, disaster. NWO propaganda has seduced politicians and others to the dark side eg. Rihanna, Jay-Z, Gaga.

  • I just ate a whole bunch of chocolate :)

  • Jroiisnetahgeaeixnbsitdpiotwie­orn

    put 2 and 2 toghether...

  • There will be a pole-shift in 2012. After the "machinery" stops, we as a species must fight having the engines fired up again. 2012 is timed perfectly by God to destroy the industry that is raping Earth. However, we can still use technology after the shift, we must simply adhere to a spiritual level and NOT pollute anymore, and stick to clean technologies.

    We must become as the Natives were before the arrival of Anti-Christian ways.

    Peace.

  • MAYOR BUTTFUCK!

  • My favorite part is @1:06 

  • stop paying your taxes!!! million dont! we can defeat them my fellow humans...

  • @alppmrp

    Excellent advice!

  • Thank you Amenstop

  • ahmedinejad critised the 2012 logo as saying zion. and that iran will make sure the olympic games will be stopped. in the sun newpaper

  • Your God of the Judeo-Christian Bible is racist . He also admits to being a jealous god and he is clearly sexist as well. He needs help.

  • @AmenstopProductions we will die somewhere around 2012.that means you.look at all of the evidence.and if youdont see where this world is headethen your a really dumb bastard!

  • ABSOLUTE RUBBISH!!!! THE JEWS HAS A GOD GIVEN OWNERSHIP TO THE LAND OF ISRAEL. FIGHT AGAINST THEM AND U FIGHT AGAINST GOD

  • @MrTommyt63 and your reference of proof is what? can't say the Bible, that is just bible-mythology. Just a way to control and brainwash people to believing such crap. I mean really, where is the proof, and why is your God discriminating against others? Just wondering

  • @MrTommyt63 screw you ,you and them.the world knows about them .and they will get revenge on the children of satan ,the jews!

  • Why don't u accept responsiblility for your actions?

    You pay tax and your taxes are spent to force laws on unbeleivers and steal their free will in favor of those who made those laws (ZOG);

    Why don't u accept responsiblility for your actions?

  • @TheAryanBeauty I don't pay taxes

  • @TheAryanBeauty NewsFlash!!!: Taxes are long-known to be used to PROMOTE the USA's WARS across the globe, and to LINE the POCKETS of those in charge; our education system is crumbling, our roads and bridges are in disrepair, the taxes go to about 101 different places there not supposed to be used for. Are you even from the United States?? These things are not the responsiblity of our people's actions. This gov't was founded on the pretense that we NOT pay (Britain's) taxes...

  • I love how you made it all cheerful, instead of making it all spooky. You're awesome.

  • the year 2012 is going to be an eventful year, well thats what the zeitgeist makes us feel, especially with the film 2012, and astrologists and calendars claiming a super black hole at the centre of the universe would cause chaos on earth when it lined up with the sun, which is psudo science as the earth would have to be 6 million times closer to it to have any affect. also it will be the queen's diamond jubeliee. william is getting married to kate though, is she anything to do with the NWO?

  • @saulwilliams56 Does Kate have anything to do with the NWO? She's wearing Diana's ill fated ring. She is part of the pre-scripted NWO story that is about to unfold.

  • @saulwilliams56 Dude, 2012 is fake!

  • @lavamouse33 youre point being?

  • what a crock of shit...

  • youtube: Rik Clay & 2012- RIP 1/9

  • @MrAnthonyholden Only one thing to do when faced with this kind of crock: /watch?v=AK-_aDUXBNY

  • Nothing like stirring the pot eh! Well that's good it gets people thinking!

    On another note: know one knows the end, except my father in Heaven....

  • ajhhhhhh i cnat under stanxd this but it soaunds iteresting can some one translate

  • is this how they know?

    you want some more information that will freak you out regarding 2012? If you don't already have this program, I would suggest you download Stellarium. Then fast forward to Dec 3, 2012. Then look due East, (big red E), then fast forward to 1 hour before sunrise. now compare that planetary convergence to the Pyramids at Giza. Do they mathematically match and physically overlay? Just something else for you to consider. Plus the pyramids equal 666.

    --Charles Marcello

  • +OLYMPIC GAMES MASCOTES= ILLUMINATI 1 SEEING EYE BEINGS (HORUS TYPE)

    Lets Train AGAIN wid ENERGY DYNAMICS in order 2 RESIST ILLUMINATI ZIONIST NEW WORLD ORDER(& its Subliminal War/ INCEPTION-MATRIX style) + 2 REBUILD OUR SICK PLANET INTO HARMONY AGAIN!

    LIGHT OF GOD WINS (NOT ILLUMINATI 3 IN 1 HORUS/LUCIFER/BAPHOMET)!

    LOVE-LIGHT-HARMONY;)***

  • ZION = SPECIFIC ILLUMINATI JEWISH+CHRISTIAN LUCIFERIANS!

    Satanic NWO is Expanding Dangerously!

    We must REFUSE at all Cost CITIZEN CARDS, crucial step b4 being imposed IMPLANTED MICROCHIPS of MIND CONTROL(imposed or else we wud be "Terrorists" + imposed as well allways "4 our Good"as a cure WID SPECIAL FREQUENCIES against sum Disease/plague they Create)!...

    RESIST zionist NWO!...

  • What should I do after the false attack happens?

    Besides panic?

  • @DACODONE There isn't going to be an attack if we don't attract it with our beliefs and expectations. We are projecting reality vs. experiencing it. They need us to fear the future so it will boommerang back into our "reality". Yes, I have been focusing on their evil deeds. Why? Because we need to wake up before we can rewrite our destiny. There's nothing to fear. Stay tuned. Are you following my website?

  • Now it all makes sense I couldn't figure out this whole zionist thing before I was like why would Jewish people want to do something like this if theyre supposed to believe in God..but it is just people pretending to be Jewish. I also find it funny that police stars are Stars of David......The Jews will be blamed.

  • Now it all makes sense I couldn't figure out this whole zionist thing before I was like why would Jewish people want to do something like this if theyre supposed to believe in God..but it is just people pretending to be Jewish. I also find it funny that police stars are Stars of David......The Jews will be blamed.

  • nope on the chinese calander 2012 is the year of the dragon. Not the beast.

  • @thenitrous666  Same thing,

  • @AmenstopProductions oh snap!

  • @AmenstopProductions You have to qualify your statements and answers here and not on some other website or your answers are null and void!

  • @thenitrous666

    "And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as [the feet] of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his throne, and great authority" (Apocalypse 13:2)

  • @thenitrous666 The dragon is the king of snakes= Satan

  • @thenitrous666

    Revelation 12:9 - "And the great dragon was thrown down, the serpent of old who is called the devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him."

  • yeah but 2012 has not got a dot thts just put in there :0

  • Bob Marley shirts are Zion.....

  • F ANY BODY IS AGAINST THE ILLUMINATI PLEASE MESSAGE ME!!! IF YOU HAVE A RELIGION CHRISTIAN CATHOLIC JAHOVAS WITNESS ANYTHING AS LONG AS YOUR AGAINST THE ILLUMINATI!!! WELL GO THROUGH THIS TOGETHER!! I LOVE YOU JESUS +!!!! F*** ILLUMINATI

  • There's a big difference between perfectly clear and not even close.

  • Let me get this straight. It sounds like you're saying "Christians want to rule the world" (before Christ returns) - right?

  • @Hooverdarnit How did you come up with that idea?

  • @AmenstopProductions <The video says (@ 51 sec.) that Christians and Jews are "FANATICS" if they believe God gave the land of Israel to the Jews. How could any (real) Christian believe otherwise.

    At the 1:00 minute mark, it says that Zionist want to control the world.

    If one believes God gave "The Promised Land" to the House of Israel" who can challenge God's will?

    This video calls people who actually believe the Bible, fanatics.

    All in all, this video is rubbish.

  • @Hooverdarnit

    You are a dumb cunt, living with your head buried in biblical sand.

  • @SirianKings Where's your head buried? Nevermind. I know where your head's at. Crying because Abraham choose Isaac over Ishmael. Which means Jacob and all the tribes of Israel are favored by God.

  • God dam you barack

  • Scipture says beware of those who call themselves jews,but are really of the synagogue of satan.ww2 was funded by the same people.They funded all sides,and killed 2/3 of the jews in europe.and then set up shop in israel.

  • @charles5929 yup agreed

  • The Illuminati will be using Project Blue Bleam on 2012 to fake an alien invasion, and to as well as using holograms to fake the 2nd coming of the "God" That you believe. So for me, I might see a "Buddah", and you might see a "Jesus" and so on. Theres waves they will be projecting to make you think your actually fucking hearing "GOD"

  • 2:22 PASSH-ION.??? LAME.

  • 2012 is a False flag created by the Illuminati. You're supposed to think exactly what you have worked out. More signs will follow in the commercial media. The NWO will stage a catastrophy designed to impose more power over the masses.

  • @Renathra Yes. I agree with you. It will be staged.

  • @AmenstopProductions Project Bluebeam will likely occur circa 2012, the ONLY question is whether this is BIBLICAL or whether the elites are enacting Revelations for some bizarre reason...i'd say toss a coin, the Bible may be true after all....

  • @Renathra yup

  • @Renathra EVERYTHING is STAGED...and planned...but it is not tha illuminati who gets final say in that plan...

  • @Renathra You are wrong. 2012 is an year of many changes on the eath face.

    You see this.

  • Wow...

  • Your reference to Protocols discredited everything your anti-Semitic screwbrain had to offer.

  • @polishdread You haven't read the protocols and you haven't seen The Ring of Power DVD. That's why you're parroting the ADL drivel. helpfreetheearth . com / predictions_8. html

  • 19/5/13 expect us

  • Everyone should unite together and fight the illuminati!

    Even if it means death!

  • @8150shaf It's inside you you. You have to win the war from the inside out.

  • @AmenstopProductions how is it inside when they own the money or credit you get and the bills you have to pay and the laws against you?

  • @AmenstopProductions It's a game. You just have to figure out how to play it.

  • The logo looks more like a gay design than with a fucking swastika. Maybe the supposed antichrist is a damn gay bastard (you know, it's their tradition being apart from woman and a bunch of CONfrères). You know, it will be in London. LOL.

    Don't know, but, serious now, guess it's such kind of fear and speculation that the NWO, if there's really one, wants you people to have. Fuck zionism, all the isms and the whole gang!

  • this shit is stupid, i looked up my last name and they said i was part of the 13 Illuminati families who will make up Satan, so yea watch out for all the Russell's out there.. LMFO!

  • @saints4px: LMAO!! your last line made me laugh! ....yeah I think it's bogus as well.

  • heard the one about a staged alien invasion at the Olympics in 2012 - even the mascots are aliens.

  • you are the only ignorant mass

  • Zionism is Jewish nationalism.

    Yes, the New World Order exists but what about Islamic Jihad?

    The Bible warns that Russia and Iran will attack Israel (nuclear war in the Middle East). You think Israel will stand by and do nothing?

    Christians believe Jesus Christ will return and bring peace to the world.

    This video is Nazi propaganda.

  • @AcePilot101 "This video is Nazi propaganda."

    ==

    WW2 was orchestrated by Illuminati. It was practice. Next time it will be worse. Their philosophy is: pit groups against each other through lies provoking groups to kill each other while corporate leaders, bankers and politicians rob everyone. They want a world of ignorant slaves who serve them, who they can rape, torture and kill for fun. 9/11 was planned by them to launch WW3. They're surprised by the worldwide awareness of their goal.

  • @AcePilot101

    The West is ruled by the occult. The Illuminati is that cult. They use celebrities to distribute drugs for them. General Oliver North was killing men in Nicaragua so the Illuminati could profit on cocaine distribution. Saying, "I don't recall" kept him and the Illuminati he served from punishment. They believe in the Babylonian Talmud which tells them to lie, cheat, steal and kill for money. The Testaments tell people what the Illuminati has done, is doing and will do.

  • *rolls eyes*

  • well in that case Mirriam and Webster are clearly Zions. Just look at these examples: compas-sion, vi-sion, abra-sion....the evidence is clear!!! Rise against the powers! (sarcasm)

  • thank you, youtube for not letting me add my earlier comment here. you fucking illuminati mother fuckers.

  • @donnykash what happened ?what do you meanthey did not let you post.amd what was the comment?

  • Clap-trap! Go back to your bedrooms and put on your tin-foil hats!

  • They paid him for designing that crap? Jeez!!!!!

  • "passion" or "pass-zion" .. jeez... If this is true then theres a reason why the logo was done this way.. wtf is to be gained from having a logo that says ZION? this is so stupid

  • @addav79 the reason is that the illuminati's ancient visual rituals become complete, a sadistic satanic ritual similar to that of 911.

    in 911 when the planes were hitting the towers. george bush was sitting in a classroom with a teacher who was getting the children to chant specific words relating to the tragedy unfolding.

    "HIT" "PLANE" "STEAL" "MUST" unscrambled to reveal "PLANE MUST HIT STEAL"

    increase your knowledge of your actual enemy and strengthen your bloodline with it.

  • @addav79 i just tryed to post you a comment explaining why... but you tube is not allowing me. obvious reasons are in your face. don't be ignorant to the truth.

    when they first round up the sheep you will probably survive, but you will most probably die in the second. don't be ignorant to the truth.

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  • GREAT JOB!

  • Thats better. Apologies for the previous post, as you can now see, this was directed at that twit "drbable"

  • @DivineMagix: So it would seem that, that is all they care about..and screw up constantly, and fill the media with bullshit..nice little distraction isn't it.

  • @drbable: Listen to Eustace Mullins (on youtube), the last remaining protege of Ezra Pound. Why do you think they made it a crime in some countries to speak against the Jews...so they can continue the Zionist agenda unhindered. This is not racist, as it shows even Jews don't agree with the Zionist agenda, which they don't. You are an uneducated twat.

  • I agree...so why the insult???

  • @AmenstopProductions Who is the lady speaking in this video, she sounds like the same lady from the documentary Ring of Power? Please reply

  • @Joel0277 Grace Powers is the producer of Ring Of Power

  • @Joel0277 She is also the producer of Monkey Blood and The Revolution Trap.

  • @Joel0277 Her website is Help Free The Earth . com

  • @AmenstopProductions Thank you 

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  • This is deadly serious mate

  • @jdavisabc1 yup

  • Is this a humor video, parodizing conspiracy theories, or a serious conspiracy video? It seems like it's impossible to tell.

  • After 500 years of the World-Machine, including 200 years of "Heroic Materialism," the simple ability to interpret a dream, a folk tale, a myth, a mandala, or a tarot spread is exceedingly rare.

  • Only the ancient language of the deep can express the insights of mystics. Ordinary languages are tied to our senses and to practical everyday bodily concerns. Symbolism is the essential language for understanding revelation and divination, since every legitimate revelation and divination is couched almost entirely in symbolic terms. Yet this poses a problem.

  • Zionism is Jewish nationalism, nothing more or less. Revelation is in the New Testament (Christian Bible) not the Old Testament (Jews). 2012 is interesting because of the Precession of Equinoxes.

    Stars "fall back" 1 degree per 72 years and today we know this is caused by the wobble of the earth's axis - the true driver of climate change.

    And finally, the Jews hated the Olympics because of Greek nudity.

    This video clip is really hate propaganda.

  • you are incorrect: you also have zionist christians. according to the Talmud, which is what zionists follow, you are a beast. so better wake up you "goyim" .. you better look that up that term..

  • @nwoecb, You are correct. Not all jews are zionists and not all zionists are jews. The mormons for instance are waiting for the comming of Zion, much like their are babtist churches awaiting Zion and so fourth. Zion is the New Jerusalem to be set up for Gods chosen people. Though it may seem that some people picture Zion to be ruled by racial supremacy. Contrary to popular belief, God's chosen people are not just Jews. It would be the lost tribes of Israel, whoever those people are. Who knows?

  • I love the star of David in the palm with the Swatzika on thefinger.... Those aren't opposing ideas or anything

  • Cool. Just to let u know that this isn't anything new, its been goin on since man was a man and that it will never change either, so its a case of put up or shut up ' cause nobody with half a brain is really interested anyway. And we're all too busy living on the poverty line to be concerned about it, let the real men, the politicians sort it out with real tools of debate and discusion, they look after us quite well you know.

  • @hush2088 , I really hope your comment was being sarcastic. I don't know any politicians who are looking after anything other than a fat paycheck.

  • great video and website :D may i reupload this video with links to your website and channel :D

  • Haven't people been preaching armageddon for hundreds of years anyway? Seriously? I mean... Come on!

  • Who said anything about Armageddon? Watch it again.

  • I know, I know, but the mark of the beast pretty much spells out the shit hitting the fan. Nothing has to be said about Armageddon, it just seems implied in this video...

  • AmenstopProductions is just a racist bitch

  • In most cases it's not the end of the world, or even man. Ancient text speak only of a change in mentality, a chance in consciousness and how people think. .

  • I really, really, really, would love for that to happen, man.

  • @bigAshizzle

    Make that thousands of years. People have a need to fear, to despair. Happiness is a product of darkness and light after all. And nothing brings on despair for some more than Armageddon lol.

  • you saying man of color is a ignorant observation because black isnt a color, black is the lack of color or no color at all.

    If anything the presidents were men of color, so that claim is false too. Why dont we all forget about the end of the world and just live your life.

    do what thou wilt ;)

  • the PREVIOUS presidents

  • like that famous satanist suggested?

  • Zionism Is corrupt as Fuck and If you don't understand this then your the ignorant one

  • yo twiggy ur right & this guy below me is a sheeple his mind is not open. people the time 2 wake up is now remember united we stand divided we fall

  • YOU PEOPLE ARE STUPID...this shit is retarded...you could make any symbol look like something crazy im sure...you people keep making this shit up and it never happens...from y2k to bush going to delcare martial law before he lost the presidency

  • In old scriptures, it said that:

    "When the man of color ruled the most powerful land, it will mark the endtimes"

    Barack Obama is "man of color"

    and will "rule the most powerful land"

    2009 - 2010 - 2011 - 2012

  • @TwiggyJordison34 Obama doesnt rule anything. hes just there to fool you for whats going on behind the curtains, and to cary out the same idea as bush did

  • @CamJBoogie :

    Okay.... I NEVER said he ruled anything.

    I only stated what I read, a whole difference than me stating that he "rules anything."

    lol

  • @TwiggyJordison34 What scriptures are you referring to? That means absolutely nothing if you don't provide any references, i.e.- The Bible?

  • @TheZackarios:

    In that case over 90% of comments are biased since none add any references.

    Anyway, I've learned a whole lot of things through my life time, a couple of things that I know I forgot where I've read them.... I think I read way too much. All I know is that I know that information since the 80s.

  • @TheZackarios yea the evil bible

    the book of the NWO

    the book of shit

  • the evil bible

  • @nasafakedit people should burn their bibles for fuel. bible is a dumb book.

  • @nrobnas43  well said dude :)

    BURN THE EVIL BIBLE

  • @TwiggyJordison34 Which Scriptures do you speak of? Please reply or message me Thank you. - Joel

  • @TwiggyJordison34 Reference please.

  • @TwiggyJordison34 wheres the scriptures ??

  • @TwiggyJordison34 Yeah i can't find the scriptures either.

  • @TwiggyJordison34

    lmao wtf? where in the "old scriptures" did it say that "when the man of colour rules the most powerd land, it will mark endtimes"?

    besides men of color ruled the most powerful land for many years; egypt. and that was end times now was it?

  • @TwiggyJordison34 please state the scripture where it says that u dumb fuck

  • @TwiggyJordison34 the pres doesnt run anythiing.........

  • Thank you Obi Wan. Very interesting.

  • The day after Barack's election, the evening Pick 3 lottery number in his home state of Illinois was 6-6-6.

    Michelle has long been a member of the Chicago branch of the Council on Foreign Relations. She made the devil horns hand signal on the cover of Vogue even though she has no connection to heavy metal music or the Texas Longhorns football team.

  • Goverment consist of normal guys born onto this earth, from a femal vagina, just with a lot of power and selfishness, dont be suprised if they try to play tricks on us. Survival of the fit...

  • indeed, but what of the meddlers in the affairs of the souls incarnating to those bodies, many of whom are also those normal guys walking around on Earth. they didn't remove references to reincarnation from the bible for example, because they honestly thought it was untrue. such things are removed because they are true, and many more people knowing them to be true would not live their lives out as-if they have only a short time here and what they do here won't affect them cause they'll be dead.

  • Ppl that dont believe or never heard of this, well probably be unaffected by it come 2013

  • who's the woman speaking...I know she was in Secret Rulers of the World

  • they also believe the own the human condition and body, and that we are their very creation when in reality they are just a bastardization of us. They are the forerunners of eugenics, biological warfare, and the war on consciousness, people please leave your houses once in a while so you become aware of the atrocities that have been committed in our names, 2012 is meaningless unless WE MAKE IT SO IMPORTANT, nobody is going to save us except each other, band together people!

  • it may take you 33 years to see the truth.

  • iron like a lion in zion. bob marley,

  • the original number of the beast was 616. work out the greatness of the number 36. and you will see through these ignorant morons.

  • you god bothering pillocks, the swaztika has been used for thousands of years as a symbol of peace. go back to bothering god leave the illuminate alone. religion is the only problem

  • I would like to thank you for all of your work and these amazing videos.

    Keep the flame alive ;)