21 - Hydrogen HHO Electrolyzer test unit 10-1

[seveprim]

No wonder the coffee there is terrible ..lol

[sidyoung]

The answer to your riddle is that, to a point, a column of heated gas being lighter than the ambient gas creates negative pressure resulting in up draft. The taller the chimney the greater the draft. Conversely, the warmer gas is being pushed up the chimney by the cooler ambient gas.:-)

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Well done, Grasshopper.

[sidyoung]

I see that only the spaces midway between the pos. and neg. are the ones that are producing gas in the electrolyte. It appears that production shifts closer to the plates that are closer to the actual electrode. Or is that just an illusion? (Nice Work)

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Yes and no. What actually happens is oxygen production is more concentrated at one electrode less at the opposite electrode but still present. Vica versa for H2. The neutral plates in between the electrodes produce both equally but at a slower rate.

[Every1happy]

Hi. This looks good. And that plate thing bluestix mentioned actually could have some effect. According to the experiments of John Aarons (also in YouTube) there is an optimal (I believe an 8th of an inch with 12V). Also he discovered recently that plates that are not completely parallel produce more gas. Take a look at Johns work.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

I've already seen this and find it difficult to believe that, all else being equal, more current is not drawn as plates are tilted decreasing the gap at certain points accounting for the added gas production, at a cost.

[strapped9]

can find 100% lye in any hardware store in the plumbing section. keep it up bud.

[pochintwin]

use distilled water w/ koh or lye

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Today I've been playing with distilled and Baking Soda. No scum so it was definitely the water. KOH/Lye/Caustic Potash/any host of other names is not easy to find around these parts. I did see some on ebay used for photo darkroom developing. I may have to get some that way unless anyone can suggest other possible sources.

[sabriath]

You can get lye yourself, take some branches from a tree outside, break them up, and burn them until the outside is black (before it turns white ash). Put it in a 3 coffee filters and run water through it, should produce a lye water for you...at least that's how they did it in the dark ages. =)

[pochintwin]

Hi ZeroFossilFuel

I'm using some product that I found on Lowes a Heavy Duty Crystal Drain Opener (Roebic) contains 100% Sodium Hydroxide (caustic soda)

[pochintwin]

Baking Soda reduces the voltage

[bluestix]

Are you trying to make hydrogen efficiently or are you just using regular electrolysis?

[bluestix]

Why are your plates so far apart?

Capacitance increases when the plates are larger and closer together.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

It's not a capacitor.

[coquivagabundo]

actually it is. all we are trying to do is to intentionally destroy the dielectric material, in this case is water.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Point taken. I believe the plates are as far as they are to permit experinentation with higher voltages with less possibility of arcing. And we all know what happens when you create an electrical arc inside a chamber of premixed compustable gases, now don't we?