I am a rather left of center person with an advanced degree in public policy and administration and I agree for the most part with this video. The anti car crowd has nothing to do with efficiency or sound public planning. It has everything to do with an ideologically motivated mentality that is more reflective of an upper middle class lifestyle than anything else. If these people were serious about proper planning they would drop the holier than thou rhetoric.
Carfree day is just a token event, though this CEI video has more to do about fear from its corporate sponsors than any thing else. Not every body can drive, no body should be forced to drive and not every body wants to drive. There's no such thing as a free lunch or a free market.
There is no anti-auto discrimination, no one is going to take away the street in front of your house. Car free day isn't about being anti-automobile, it's about being anti-only automobile. Freedom to drive and having freedom from driving.
Whenever someone like you says that, I hold them to their word about it. Leave the cars alone, and I'll have no problem with leaving the bikes, buses and trains alone.
A car-free lifestyle is a happy and healthy lifestyle. I never want to own a car again! I will make lifestyle choses that prevent me from needing a car for my children sake and for future generations.
Plus how does Car Free day affect you CEI? Why can't we, the public choose? Aren't you free-market. I can choose whatever I want & I choose the subway instead of a Hummer.
Auto exhaust does chromosomal damage to YOUR kids too, you "competitive" people, never mind warming. You're going to find you're whistling in the dark with no support the more you cling to this "environmentalists are bad" nonsense.
If the economy were not in such a state because of hidebound industries like your friends', I'd recommend you find another industry to work in.
Typical right wing oil funded "think" tank bull crap. Automotive transportation has a purpose, but not everyone "needs" a car as much as they think they do.
This video is stupid and backwards. "The busses and trains are on time and uncrowded" because this is the ideal that can easily be realized if we stop dumping so much funding into obsolete auto infrastructure at the expense of more sustainable transport.
"Where's the warming", you ask? Well, it's there, but only when you develop a worldview based on facts, instead of inventing facts based on a worldview.
Generally pretty sympathetic to libertarian causes, but why anyone wants to associate with CEI and its silly, arrogant, misguided, and often missing-the-point activities is beyond me. Not to mention the funding.
CEI hurts the libertarian cause as far as I'm concerned, on top of being an affront to solid reason.
"From their food, to their clothes..." I don't think anybody is asking for the entire system to be torn down tomorrow. What WE can do is NOT drive to pick up these items after they have been so graciously delivered to our neighborhoods by Papa Petroleum. A semi-truck full of six-packs of beer is a relatively efficient use of energy. Each of those six-packs then being driven across town from the store to home in empty cars is NOT efficient.
The patronizing argument that people don't realize how many things get to them by car is more-or-less ignorant is useless. No car days are to get away from a lazy, 'lets jump in the car and drive to a recreation/shopping area' mindset. Sure my latte gets there by truck, and i'm going to get it on foot thank you, wearing a rain coat. Bullies, you are bullies and think your rational. Notice the funding above.
These guys completely miss the point. No one is trying to completely get rid of cars, the point is to show people that you don't need to spend your life in the car. The point is to show that there is life outside that climate-cruise-audio controlled interior
they are very afraid for their money that there will be ever more people like me. I don´t need and have a car. I only need my bicycle, water proof goretex the northface shoes and a similar very breathable wolfskin jacket with an inbuild hood with a waterproof and snug hood with an extra windprotector for the neck/throat wenn fastened very snug with velcro. if i should ever want more speed i will get me an standard electric drive for my bike.
ExxonMobil Corporation was a major donor to CEI, with over $2 million in contributions between 1998 and 2005 (it ended in 2006).
Current funders include:
Amoco Foundation, Inc., Coca-Cola Company, CSX Corporation, Ford Motor Company Fund, Philip Morris Companies, Inc., Pfizer Inc., Precision Valve Corporation, and Texaco, Inc. (Texaco Foundation).
In my city do regularly haul around kids and groceries with bikes. And politicians do arrive at these events on bike. In fact the top two mayoral candidates in our upcoming election regularly commute by bike.
In my city people do regularly haul around kids and groceries with bikes. And politicians do arrive at these events on bike. In fact the top two mayoral candidates in our upcoming election regularly commute by bike.
instead of offering solutions they want to inject fears and doubts , we all know how important motorize vehicles are, but your solution is more gas? as bredlo said I wonder who is behind this hmmmm?
How can this supposed "Institute" possibly feel threatened by the concept that we should walk more. With your own inclusion of health problems as one of the unrealistic reasons cars are necessary, you prove part of the point of "car free" concept. Obesity is higher than ever, and driving to the end of your own driveway to get your mail is part of the problem.
So ridicule this idea all you want. And tell us - who is funding your little "enterprise institute" anyhow? I heard Ford and Exxon.
I am a rather left of center person with an advanced degree in public policy and administration and I agree for the most part with this video. The anti car crowd has nothing to do with efficiency or sound public planning. It has everything to do with an ideologically motivated mentality that is more reflective of an upper middle class lifestyle than anything else. If these people were serious about proper planning they would drop the holier than thou rhetoric.
wh2006dk 8 months ago
Carfree day is just a token event, though this CEI video has more to do about fear from its corporate sponsors than any thing else. Not every body can drive, no body should be forced to drive and not every body wants to drive. There's no such thing as a free lunch or a free market.
Intransitman 2 years ago
Well, what if I love my car? What if I don't want to take the bus or ride a bike?
This anti-car discrimination has to stop.
ferrarimanf355 2 years ago
There is no anti-auto discrimination, no one is going to take away the street in front of your house. Car free day isn't about being anti-automobile, it's about being anti-only automobile. Freedom to drive and having freedom from driving.
Intransitman 2 years ago
Whenever someone like you says that, I hold them to their word about it. Leave the cars alone, and I'll have no problem with leaving the bikes, buses and trains alone.
ferrarimanf355 2 years ago
I agree, that's why groups like CEI, Cato, Reason & etc. Should not be attacking walking, biking & mass transit.
Intransitman 2 years ago
Name calling and illogic from this laughable joke of a "think" tank.
Competitive enterprises don't need constant and massive public subsidies and government bailouts, do they?
Cars were a capitalist pipe-dream. They will not survive this century.
CEI is a broken-down whore.
spikeof65 2 years ago
A car-free lifestyle is a happy and healthy lifestyle. I never want to own a car again! I will make lifestyle choses that prevent me from needing a car for my children sake and for future generations.
Automobile dependency is over, guys. :)
cclarkjones 3 years ago
Plus how does Car Free day affect you CEI? Why can't we, the public choose? Aren't you free-market. I can choose whatever I want & I choose the subway instead of a Hummer.
quinnsans 3 years ago 2
Lies and nonsense. There's no legislative push to restrict people from using cars. Just some voluntary attempts to reduce usage.
And the claim that cars are the same as commercial shipping operations is just funny.
Thanks for helping discredit the right, CEI! Always good to have some idiotic nutters to point at.
moschtastic 3 years ago
Auto exhaust does chromosomal damage to YOUR kids too, you "competitive" people, never mind warming. You're going to find you're whistling in the dark with no support the more you cling to this "environmentalists are bad" nonsense.
If the economy were not in such a state because of hidebound industries like your friends', I'd recommend you find another industry to work in.
vinvan 3 years ago
Typical right wing oil funded "think" tank bull crap. Automotive transportation has a purpose, but not everyone "needs" a car as much as they think they do.
W1nt3rSt0rm 3 years ago
This video is stupid and backwards. "The busses and trains are on time and uncrowded" because this is the ideal that can easily be realized if we stop dumping so much funding into obsolete auto infrastructure at the expense of more sustainable transport.
"Where's the warming", you ask? Well, it's there, but only when you develop a worldview based on facts, instead of inventing facts based on a worldview.
agibson3 3 years ago 5
Well that was dumb.
GermFreeFusion 3 years ago 2
Generally pretty sympathetic to libertarian causes, but why anyone wants to associate with CEI and its silly, arrogant, misguided, and often missing-the-point activities is beyond me. Not to mention the funding.
CEI hurts the libertarian cause as far as I'm concerned, on top of being an affront to solid reason.
ktwsolo 3 years ago 5
"From their food, to their clothes..." I don't think anybody is asking for the entire system to be torn down tomorrow. What WE can do is NOT drive to pick up these items after they have been so graciously delivered to our neighborhoods by Papa Petroleum. A semi-truck full of six-packs of beer is a relatively efficient use of energy. Each of those six-packs then being driven across town from the store to home in empty cars is NOT efficient.
lepassant3 3 years ago 4
The patronizing argument that people don't realize how many things get to them by car is more-or-less ignorant is useless. No car days are to get away from a lazy, 'lets jump in the car and drive to a recreation/shopping area' mindset. Sure my latte gets there by truck, and i'm going to get it on foot thank you, wearing a rain coat. Bullies, you are bullies and think your rational. Notice the funding above.
jamnbiscoots 3 years ago 6
These guys completely miss the point. No one is trying to completely get rid of cars, the point is to show people that you don't need to spend your life in the car. The point is to show that there is life outside that climate-cruise-audio controlled interior
freeskier62 3 years ago 7
they are very afraid for their money that there will be ever more people like me. I don´t need and have a car. I only need my bicycle, water proof goretex the northface shoes and a similar very breathable wolfskin jacket with an inbuild hood with a waterproof and snug hood with an extra windprotector for the neck/throat wenn fastened very snug with velcro. if i should ever want more speed i will get me an standard electric drive for my bike.
demus 3 years ago 3
As for the funding for CEI:
ExxonMobil Corporation was a major donor to CEI, with over $2 million in contributions between 1998 and 2005 (it ended in 2006).
Current funders include:
Amoco Foundation, Inc., Coca-Cola Company, CSX Corporation, Ford Motor Company Fund, Philip Morris Companies, Inc., Pfizer Inc., Precision Valve Corporation, and Texaco, Inc. (Texaco Foundation).
b5baxter 3 years ago 4
Are you saying that companies fund organizations in which they have interests!?!
laborwage 3 years ago
In my city do regularly haul around kids and groceries with bikes. And politicians do arrive at these events on bike. In fact the top two mayoral candidates in our upcoming election regularly commute by bike.
b5baxter 3 years ago
In my city people do regularly haul around kids and groceries with bikes. And politicians do arrive at these events on bike. In fact the top two mayoral candidates in our upcoming election regularly commute by bike.
b5baxter 3 years ago 2
instead of offering solutions they want to inject fears and doubts , we all know how important motorize vehicles are, but your solution is more gas? as bredlo said I wonder who is behind this hmmmm?
trianglechookee 3 years ago 5
Car free days are a wonderful celebration of community, life and health.
Anyone who has attended one would know that they are something that should be encouraged and expanded.
b5baxter 3 years ago 3
How can this supposed "Institute" possibly feel threatened by the concept that we should walk more. With your own inclusion of health problems as one of the unrealistic reasons cars are necessary, you prove part of the point of "car free" concept. Obesity is higher than ever, and driving to the end of your own driveway to get your mail is part of the problem.
So ridicule this idea all you want. And tell us - who is funding your little "enterprise institute" anyhow? I heard Ford and Exxon.
bredlo 3 years ago 6