cleaners, factory workers, and elementary school retards of the world unite, here come the pretend Monkeydonians. But they have Bulgarian names?, but they have Bulgarian language ? but their few heroes claim to be Bulgarian? but their modern politicians state clearly that they have nothing to do with ancient Macedonian's? but their land was called Vardaska only 50 years ago? but they were part of YugoSLAVIA only 20 years ago? A pretend history,soon to be greater Albania
@OlympicAirPilot Hahahaha :DDD ROFL Shithole?? Is there any bigger shithole than gayreece? Or how do you spell it? Hell-ass?? Sorry man but go and check your DNA then come back and we'll talk :DD Stupid piece of Arabian piss...
@GothMistress666 Stop smoking and get your head clear. You're one of the poorest shitholes in Europe. Live with that for the rest of your life. DNA tests? Like Hitler did with the Jews and Gypsies, huh? You like Nazi theories? Are you Nazis? Only Nazis supported their racial theories on stuff like that. Go die kid, your country is a piss in the ocean. Small, unimportant. Europe is in a crisis, but we will come back and blow you away from the trees you are living on with our superior army.
@OlympicAirPilot Hahaha...it seems like your are on high drugs man... Europe will come back strong when the stealing Gay-reece will be kicked out of it. Look at you poor arabian mix of shit!
@GothMistress666 Hahaha! I enjoy this. I had a feeling that you like racial theories like the Nazis and shitheads like you just confirm my feeling. When somebody runs out of arguments, he uses Nazi racial theories. Like you, dickhead. Greece is in Europe, you are not. Enjoy your veto. Soon you will taste another one. The time will come when you will taste the iron fist of the greek tank army and airforce. Even the shoeless albanians in 2001 have beaten you. Tetovo is albanian now! Hahaha!
sunt floein si daresc si eu o orga sa pot cita daca vrety putety sa ma suna la nr 0731806200 asa de mult doresc sa cint am 14 ani doresc sa cit mult ca parity sunt bolnav si nu am bani sa cupar va multumesc mult cei care ma ajuta si nu am bani va jur
The little boy is so cute dancing and doing his little spins. Ne moj nikada zaboraviti vasa slavski jezik, jer znam kako moze biti grci sa njin jezik, a nista narocit je. Jedan dan, vase kraj treba biti zajedno sa drugi kraj, ali za nesto sta ja slazem sa grcima je da makedonija treba da se zove nesto drugo - nema sta bre.
you took there land and tryed to change them stop with the lies and bullshit its all shit poor people samo napre makedonci they have our music and our songs and language whats the song called if its greek tell me tell the world jano janke is the song im macedonian and i know the song and you tell me in English what is it called
Read your history books guys - the real Macedonia dates back to ancient Macedon which is now known as Aegean Macedonia (the capital being Thessaloniki), and it contained an ethnically Greek majority.
The name Macedonia is related to the ancient Greek word Makednos. It is commonly explained as having originally meant 'a tall one' or 'highlander', which is descriptive of the people.
The Slavic Macedonians of today are just ethnopolitically disoriented Bulgarians.
There is no such thing as an "ethnic" macedonian. Macedonia is a region of Greece. It would be like saying "Im an ethnic Athenian". It doesnt make any sense...
@AegeanKing Ooo, please, stop! Macedonia is also region in the Republic of Macedonia, in Bulgaria and in Albania too. And Macedonia isn't only yours. Please, understand that once forever.
Actually Athenian has a possibility of being it's own ethnic group considering the Normans, Franks, Turks, Aromanians, Vlahs, Greeks, and Albanian populations that have significantly contributed to an Athenians ethnicity throughout history. Generally, it's possible.
@TheAwp45 No, its not possible, you are an illiterate baboon who doesn't know the first thing about what a Greek is. Let me give you an education. There is NO such thing as "Greek" blood or "Italian" blood. DNA is divided into haplogroups NOT ethnicity. The ancient Greeks were just as mixed as the modern Greeks. The ancient Greek tribes hellenized the Pelasgians on the Greek peninsula, they hellenized the Lydians, Carians and Persians in Anatolia (continued)
@TheAwp45 And the ancient Greeks hellenized the Phoenicians when they settled on Cyprus. Being Greek has NEVER been about some imaginary blood line. Being Greek has ALWAYS been about language and culture. Modern Greeks are just as Greek as ancient and medieval Greeks because we carry on the Hellenic language and Culture. The ancient philosopher Isocrates said it best when he said "He is a Greek whoever partakes of our language and culture". (continued)
Actually linguists have found that there have been a good amount of difference between ancient Koine Greek and modern Greek. Greeks disgrace themselves with the culture they use today compared to that of which they apparently "Used long ago". An ethnicity is just a thing of who you relate to.
@TheAwp45 Also, it is a widely known fact that the ancient Greeks mixed with foreign slaves. Especially the Athenians. Which proves my point even further. Lastly, the age of Alexander the Great is called the HELLENISTIC age, not the Macedonian Age. There is a reason for that....
Mixing doesn't really make anything unless in large amounts. Also, Alexander never imposed a Greek as a satrap on any of his provinces. He let most of the satraps be the last ones to hold the position before he conquered Persia. Hellenism of Asia and Egypt is entirely coincidental since not a single historian talks about it. Besides why would Greeks rebel on one of their own? Sure it may be because they are harsh but the Greeks said they hated Macedonians for being "barbarian"
@TheAwp45 Why would Greeks rebel?? is that a joke?? Greeks ALWAYS rebel. Even against their own. Greeks were always killing each other. The Ionian Greeks fought with the Persians AGAINST the Athenian Greeks because they did not want to be under the Athenians. This was COMMON in Greece. Macedonia (which is a Greek word with a Greek meaning) did not conquer the southern Greek states. Macedonia UNITED the Greeks states through war. Hence, the league of corinth. (continued)
I said they rebelled because they did not like to be ruled by a barbarian. The Greeks that rebelled against the Athenians just did not want to be under Athenians rule. Many ancient historians even write about Barbarians ruling Greece.
@TheAwp45 Just like Genghis Khan united the mongol tribes through war, Phillip united the Greek states through war. It was the historian Isocrates that wrote a letter to Phillip (leader of the Corinthian League) Urging a Panhellenic crusade against the Persians. Lastly, Modern Greek is VERY close to Koine. I can read and Understand a 2nd century Gospel written in Koine. You know NOTHING about the Greek language. (continued)
Again most ancient historians don't say Philip unified the Greek nations, they say he conquered them. He didn't conquer Sparta either. Isocrates writes in his letter to Philip,
[141] "for since you have overthrown more nations than any of the Hellenes has ever taken cities" Isn't Philip a Hellene? If Philip is a Hellene, the writing would probably go like this "for since you have overthrown more nations then any other Hellene has taken a city" Big difference isn't it?
@TheAwp45 The only language that has the same level of continuity through thousands of years is Chinese. All languages evolve one way or another. 16th century English is not the same as 21st century English. But, they are still mutually intelligible. The Reason that the new testament of the Bible was written in Greek is because of ALEXANDER. Why do you think there is such a thing as "Hellenistic Jews". The Hellenistic age is a spreading of the Greek langauge and culture through Alexander.
@TheAwp45 What do you think Greco-Buddhism is? Hellenism of Asia and Egypt is NOT coincidental. Alexander went around building cities and naming them "Alexandria" (hence the city in Egypt) Also teaching the Greek language. He even forced his persian soldiers to learn Greek. The Pontian Greeks are the ancestors of Greek settlers and hellenized persians. Pontian King Mithradates IV was a Hellenized Persian who claimed descent from Alexander.
Alexander forced many people but his own Macedonians to speak Greek. Plutarch in his biography of Mark Antony said Cleopatra and here ancestors spoke Macedonian as a modern tongue. But she still spoke Greek didn't she?
@TheAwp45 You FYROManians Always like to shout about how you have the right to self-identify yourself. Why don't you apply the same standard to Alexander the Great??? Alexander the Great claimed descent from Achilles (Greek hero) and he claimed Descent from the Argead Dynasty which is a Greek dynasty. Alexander considered himself a Greek. That is all that matters. Lastly, you are completely taking the word Barbarian out of context. Macedonians were not Barbarians in an ethnic sense. (cont)
@TheAwp45 Barbarian was used in a politically and culturally backwards sense towards the macedonians. They were a kingdom and not a city-state like the rest of Greeks. Lets not forget that the Athenian orator Demosthenes who called the Macedonians Barbarians was making a political speech because of the Aggression of Phillip. Also, Demosthenes was half Scythian on his mothers side so he would not try and call somebody barbarian.
Give me just one speech in which a real Greek is called a barbarian. Never has a Greek been called a barbarian. Not even Sparta which had been as barbarian as Persia.
Dance and music has no borders and never had borders. I dance just about anything from any country...what does it mean when you see me dancing?It makes me what?......... 1987 I was in Split now Croatian.........in vacation, Music and dance was just good time for me there. MAN.........You need to go and see a good doctor you are very sick man.
@Chovek1 lol stop delusional yourself, the dance is just like the Greek one, and like all the other ones on the Balkans because it all came from one place....the Ottoman empire which heavily influenced all balkan culture. Haha even the music is Turkish....you have to be tone deaf to not notice the mass similarities of Anatolian music. And no...ancient Greeks and Macedonians never danced or played this garbage....sorry Balkan-man.
@TomCat2800 The only one being delusional here is you, anatolian ? Are you serious, Turks dont dance like this neither do Greeks, this is a pure Macedonian dance and music. Get over your stupidity !
Chovek1...........We are in the year 2009 and people can read on line just about anything. I feel sorry for you that you are brainwashed to think you are Greeks or Macedonians. Look your self in the mirror and tell yourself honesly what do you look like.? God Help your soul! you are messed up and you need a good hospital to take care of yourself...!
As an American educator who has taught in Russia and a former military officer of the US Army who has seen a bit of the world and has had the God-given opportunity to receive a fine education especially in history and politics, all I can say is that Macedonia is and always will be Greek. Study classical history, not fairytale PROPAGANDA. Faulty, created entities such as FYROM cannot possibly withstand the time of history. Your hastily-contrived political creation {FYROM} will certainly fail.
I dont care if your an educator and where you have taught, you have just shown you dont know anything about Macedonia and the Macedonians and their history so kindly fuck off and stick to what your good at ....sucking Greek cock !
@2005defender we expect such actions from Greece and the racist EU, who needs them, were better off without them - still does not change the fact we are Macedonian and you're not ! Cheers
I remember the cowardly Albanians being shipped off in Nato buses to save their miserable lives, let them come again we will greet them accordingly again ! but if i were you i'd worry about Greece's internal problems - maybe Greece should count itself lucky the Macedonians don't rise up there !
Albanians did not reach Skopje, if they did dont you think it would be under Albanian control then, as for the Greeks kicking us out in 1949 they did so with napalm attacks on innocent women and children in villages...very brave people you are - i wouldnt worry about the 2800 votes rainbow recieved in the elections - we both know there are far more ethnic macedonians than that in Greece today, most did not vote out of fear of retaliation by Greek fascists
The problem being with your version of events is that you are the actual liars not us, ethnic Macedonians fought to liberate themselves from the occupational Greek state (since 1912), nothing wrong with fighting to free your homeland.The only reason Greece ever had interest in Macedonia was because of the richness of it, all Greece was - was a pile of rocks and ruins
on the same tken its nothing wrong to defend your homeland and this is what we did
Greek Army liberated Macedonia from Turks on 1912 and from Bulgars on 1915 and kicked out the communists Slavs who tried to annex Macedonia to iron curtain of Tito on 1949
First of all you invaded Macedonia not liberated it ok - lets get that part straight and second - the census of Hilmi Pasha in 1904 was flawed in that it only distinguished the populace by religion , not nationality so all the various ethnicities were either christian (Serb, Macedonian, Bulgarian) or Muslim (Turk, Albanian)
Yes i know full well it was under Turkish occupation until 1912, but it went from one occupation to another 3 following the Balkan Wars - namely Greek, Serbian and Bulgarian !
I explained this in my PM to you but just because they are not stated in the census doesnt mean they didnt exist ! The Turks could care less how the people labeled themselves as long as they went along religious lines
The Macedonians for the longest time under Ottoman occupation did not have a voice and they had no voice when the Balkan allies invaded and carved up Macedonia between themselves, you know as well as i do that history is written by the winners - in this case the Balkan Allies, so naturally their version of events goes into these encyclopedias your so proud to use as sources. But even so there are snippets of old books, articles newspapers which state the truth.
And more and more information is seeing the light of day which challenges official Greek versions of history and its obvious you cant handle this fact because it exposes your lies !
Well the Turks were the ruling power in Macedonia in 1904 so yes in a way they were the winners - logical don't you think ? And my answer is the same, they could care less how the people described themselves as long as it was done on religious lines, i explained the other part of my answer in my PM to you - i'm not going to explain myself twice !
No - fact is what the people lived through and told their stories, first hand accounts that have been passed down the generations, because they were not written in fancy encycopedias does not make them any less credible, and i've explained whay that never happened .
Excuse me these are not facts and even if its truth I;m repeating my previious question How do the reacted by then?
what they did? Bulgarians claiming that your people back then claimed themselfes bulgarians so maybe thats why there is not'macedonian" mentioning in the census but this is an opinion not a fact
Of course the Bulgarians were claiming that we were Bulgarian, they followed a similar policy to Greece - which was to negate the existence of Macedonians, but in the process to take over Macedonia for themselves - what don't you understand about that ? I'm through explaing myself to you - you just don't get it.
there is not good time mate once you have the "facts" you presenting them, and once you dont have nothing take a look at TURKISH CENSUS ON MACEDONIA POPULATION OF 1904
Its a turkish archive too ,made by yours friends in a good time
Finally I think that it's better this way.. with fyromian lies and propaganda.. Now the whole world knows the truth .. without the propaganda fyrom migh have been able to fool the world. Now all know that they're fighting agains their bulgarian identity.. all of that because of Tito...Now we all can be really friends...only if we tell the truth long live bulgaria and Greece
These are bulgarian dances! Greece has only one thing to do. Since there is all this nonsense about Macedonia.. then we should revive the ancient dances of greek Macedonia and all of those who feel like greek Macedonians should learn them..Enough is enough....
"A Slavic-speaking people, todays ethnic "Macedonians", are descendants of Slavs who settled in the Balkans during the seventh century AD."
( Karen Dawisha, Bruce Parrott, "Politics, Power and the Struggle for Democracy in South-East Europe (Democratization and Authoritarianism in Post-Communist Societies)", Cambridge University Press, 1997)
Around me, I can hear snatches of the same Slavonic idiom as that uttered by Captain Kottas when he was led away by the Bulgarians for execution, proclaiming: Long live Greece!
And, anyway, what sort of new Macedonian nation can this be when we and our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called BULGARIANS?
We shall not say a new truth if we mention the fact that everyone, Gotse Delchev, Dame Gruev, Gjorche Petrov, Pere Toshev - must I list and count all of them - were teachers of the BULGARIAN Exarchate
former Prime Minister and Vice President of FYROM, Ljubčo Georgievski, 2007, in his book С лице към истината
the makedons don`t mind being neighbours with a bulgarian,greek,serbian or albanian.we do not go around negating who you are.why do our neighbours do this?because of our glory!our door has always been half open.a good macedonian.
If I may, here is my side of the story. I was born in a villages of Drama.I have relatives in all MACEDONIA (Filippopolis, Nevrokopi, Skopia).The dialect was widely spoken.I know a bit.I have found a well documented research that the roots are Homeric, endings Slavic.We know why.When I meet people from Vardaska region,or I hear the music,my blood knows it.Not Albanian,Bulgarian,Turkish, Gypsy, Serbian, etc. Brothers,don't let borders,flags (+propaganda) separated you from your PURE GREEK BLOOD
uber bulgar gypsy from fyromistan those kids are Greeks to the bone as most of the 10.000 slavophones and all the Macedonians in northern Greece live with it slavotatar Macedonia is one and Hellenic
LOL! Both of tou don't even realise how insignificant you are on a map of the world..not only that but decent from the same geneology down the road...Please educate yourselves (Maybe by movig to a more developed nation!!!) and realise you are from the same forefathers...so sad you dont even know what youre really fighting about...
KATMYST3 your floating in a bubble of ignorance you have no whatsoever clue of what is going on so just relax and educate yourself instead of playing jesus.
I don't have a party in Greece, I am an American thank God. Accept Macedonians for who they are---Makedonci! We will always be Macedonians! Greeks never!
if your not greek though...how can you be macedonian...we dont have a problem recognising you as a people...but you have to work out who you are and accept that you speak bulgarian...e.g..from now on im a californian..all the people in california cant be that because i am that...they are americans...and i am californian...its two different things...except me for what i am...a californian...this exactly how you guys sound...it actually sounds pretty pathetic the way i have explained it..damn
Just like Macedonians say. We are MACEDONIAN. That means NOT GREEK. If you do not understand proper English, I will say it in Macedonian which by the way is taught as a separate language in many prestigious American universities. Ne sme Grzi--nie sme MAKEDONCI. Languages may evolve as yours did from ancient times, but not our cultural identity. As I always say, get a life and accept the TRUTH.
@ils1979 STOP TALKING SHIT THE LAND HAS BEEN CALLED MAKEDONIJA AND NO ONE WILL EVER CHANGE THAT ONLY GOD CAN AND HE NEVER DID YOU HAVE OUR LAND WITH OUR PEOPLE AND TRYED TO CHANGE THEM STOP THE LIES YOU NEED HELP THATS WHY GREECE IS BURNING IN FLAMES
Zmia98 everybody wants to live in peace but you can't live in peace with a people who don't recognize your ethnicity, religion and nation especially when that people are your immediate neighbours, once they recognise and accept us as Macedonians then the healing process & good neighbourly relations can begin - but thats my opinion
Еве го следниот Александар Македонски :P
ozzemc 2 weeks ago
cleaners, factory workers, and elementary school retards of the world unite, here come the pretend Monkeydonians. But they have Bulgarian names?, but they have Bulgarian language ? but their few heroes claim to be Bulgarian? but their modern politicians state clearly that they have nothing to do with ancient Macedonian's? but their land was called Vardaska only 50 years ago? but they were part of YugoSLAVIA only 20 years ago? A pretend history,soon to be greater Albania
futureman12345 2 months ago
OVE E NASIOT DEL OD MAKEDONIJA KOJ SI GO PRISVOIVTE DA ZIVEE MACEDONIA
cbeti1979 4 months ago
These are not Ethnic Macedonians, they are Native Macedonians.
shockolanu 4 months ago
za mnogu godini makedonci,kade i da ste
harilaa 5 months ago
za mnogu gpdini makedonci,kade i da ste
harilaa 5 months ago
@ArkoudoROMANTIC last time i saw bulgarian last names finish with ov go learn something about your countrys neighbours then talk shit
Babcemakedonce1 7 months ago
@ArkoudoROMANTIC !kai oi tourkogyftoi milane
istoriify 8 months ago
Македонија на македонците .....
Birkoliba 8 months ago 3
aneta sas ka8ariza olous, bastardia
fraoulitsa2009 9 months ago
ne se sramete da kazete oti ste Makedonci
istoriify 10 months ago
SOLUN E MAKEDONSKI BIL I KE BIDE SAMO MAKEDONSKI VESELO BRAKA KE DJDE DEN OKUPATOROT KE BEGA KAKO GAVOL DA ZIVEE MAKEDONIJA
TheMakedonski 1 year ago
i see ethnic gypsies covering greek macedonian style
TheKnifer93 1 year ago
@TheKnifer93 ! gyftoi eistai esys re tourkospore !
istoriify 10 months ago
@istoriify < --- Bulgaros
Istorylies 10 months ago
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istoriify 10 months ago
posting shit on youtube doesn't make any difference. you were, are and will remain just a shithole in the balkans.
OlympicAirPilot 1 year ago
@OlympicAirPilot Hahahaha :DDD ROFL Shithole?? Is there any bigger shithole than gayreece? Or how do you spell it? Hell-ass?? Sorry man but go and check your DNA then come back and we'll talk :DD Stupid piece of Arabian piss...
GothMistress666 4 months ago
@GothMistress666 Stop smoking and get your head clear. You're one of the poorest shitholes in Europe. Live with that for the rest of your life. DNA tests? Like Hitler did with the Jews and Gypsies, huh? You like Nazi theories? Are you Nazis? Only Nazis supported their racial theories on stuff like that. Go die kid, your country is a piss in the ocean. Small, unimportant. Europe is in a crisis, but we will come back and blow you away from the trees you are living on with our superior army.
OlympicAirPilot 4 months ago
@OlympicAirPilot Hahaha...it seems like your are on high drugs man... Europe will come back strong when the stealing Gay-reece will be kicked out of it. Look at you poor arabian mix of shit!
GothMistress666 4 months ago
@GothMistress666 Hahaha! I enjoy this. I had a feeling that you like racial theories like the Nazis and shitheads like you just confirm my feeling. When somebody runs out of arguments, he uses Nazi racial theories. Like you, dickhead. Greece is in Europe, you are not. Enjoy your veto. Soon you will taste another one. The time will come when you will taste the iron fist of the greek tank army and airforce. Even the shoeless albanians in 2001 have beaten you. Tetovo is albanian now! Hahaha!
OlympicAirPilot 4 months ago
@OlympicAirPilot No need for a reply to such a pathetic comment! Enjoy your "glory" of being the most despised nation in Europe anyway \m/
GothMistress666 4 months ago
@OlympicAirPilot And not to forget, I am Macedonian, so it's ok to be jealous!
GothMistress666 4 months ago
MAKEDONIJA MAKEDONIJA OD NIS DO SOLUN
TheMakedonski 1 year ago
@TheMakedonski
greece at least until MONASTIRI,and PERISTERI (bitola .. in babarian)
TheKnifer93 1 year ago
When you live together you adopt parts of each others culture.
Its wonderful.
We have more that unites us than separates us.
Greek & Slav Macedonians intermarry so easily in Australia.
Weddings, Christenings and Saints days are celebrated together.
I do not love a friend any less because he can speak another language as well.
A country Anglo was surprised that Greeks eating Souvlakia. I had to explain to him where the word came from.
He thought they were an AngloAustralian inventions!
xatilios 1 year ago
There are three Greek words in the title of this video.
Ethnic
Macedonian
Greece
Thank you for spreading Hellenism.
Georgios763 1 year ago
some piece of history.... how about those macedonian arifacts in skopje with greek letters on them ?
derscirocco 1 year ago
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sunt floein si daresc si eu o orga sa pot cita daca vrety putety sa ma suna la nr 0731806200 asa de mult doresc sa cint am 14 ani doresc sa cit mult ca parity sunt bolnav si nu am bani sa cupar va multumesc mult cei care ma ajuta si nu am bani va jur
florinel370 1 year ago
The little boy is so cute dancing and doing his little spins. Ne moj nikada zaboraviti vasa slavski jezik, jer znam kako moze biti grci sa njin jezik, a nista narocit je. Jedan dan, vase kraj treba biti zajedno sa drugi kraj, ali za nesto sta ja slazem sa grcima je da makedonija treba da se zove nesto drugo - nema sta bre.
sneighwena 1 year ago
@sneighwena mrs mater ti sprsku srpski zandari mie sme makedonci nema promena na ime odjebite srbi
MACED0NN 1 year ago
@MACED0NN Cuti srbine, cuti bre
sneighwena 1 year ago
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MACED0NN 1 year ago
@sneighwena mater ti ebem odjebi sa makedonskih MACEDONIA HRVATSKA BOSNA BRACA SRBI ODJEBITE JEBITE SE SA GRCIMA
MACED0NN 1 year ago
Denial of an ethnic identity is considered a human rights abuse, racist, and fascist.
TheAwp45 1 year ago
GREEKS PAYED WRITERS TO CHANGE THE HISTORY THANK YOU JUST WHAT I SAID IS PROVEN THERE MACEDONAIN PEOPLE NOT GREEK
mz2hot2nv 1 year ago
you took there land and tryed to change them stop with the lies and bullshit its all shit poor people samo napre makedonci they have our music and our songs and language whats the song called if its greek tell me tell the world jano janke is the song im macedonian and i know the song and you tell me in English what is it called
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Read your history books guys - the real Macedonia dates back to ancient Macedon which is now known as Aegean Macedonia (the capital being Thessaloniki), and it contained an ethnically Greek majority.
The name Macedonia is related to the ancient Greek word Makednos. It is commonly explained as having originally meant 'a tall one' or 'highlander', which is descriptive of the people.
The Slavic Macedonians of today are just ethnopolitically disoriented Bulgarians.
stockygreek 1 year ago
There is no such thing as an "ethnic" macedonian. Macedonia is a region of Greece. It would be like saying "Im an ethnic Athenian". It doesnt make any sense...
AegeanKing 1 year ago
@AegeanKing Ooo, please, stop! Macedonia is also region in the Republic of Macedonia, in Bulgaria and in Albania too. And Macedonia isn't only yours. Please, understand that once forever.
aladinmk 1 year ago
@AegeanKing
Actually Athenian has a possibility of being it's own ethnic group considering the Normans, Franks, Turks, Aromanians, Vlahs, Greeks, and Albanian populations that have significantly contributed to an Athenians ethnicity throughout history. Generally, it's possible.
TheAwp45 1 year ago
@TheAwp45 No, its not possible, you are an illiterate baboon who doesn't know the first thing about what a Greek is. Let me give you an education. There is NO such thing as "Greek" blood or "Italian" blood. DNA is divided into haplogroups NOT ethnicity. The ancient Greeks were just as mixed as the modern Greeks. The ancient Greek tribes hellenized the Pelasgians on the Greek peninsula, they hellenized the Lydians, Carians and Persians in Anatolia (continued)
AegeanKing 1 year ago
@AegeanKing
I know the haplogroups talk only about descent not of ultimate origin. What does Hellenism have anything to do with these?
TheAwp45 1 year ago
@TheAwp45 And the ancient Greeks hellenized the Phoenicians when they settled on Cyprus. Being Greek has NEVER been about some imaginary blood line. Being Greek has ALWAYS been about language and culture. Modern Greeks are just as Greek as ancient and medieval Greeks because we carry on the Hellenic language and Culture. The ancient philosopher Isocrates said it best when he said "He is a Greek whoever partakes of our language and culture". (continued)
AegeanKing 1 year ago
@AegeanKing
Actually linguists have found that there have been a good amount of difference between ancient Koine Greek and modern Greek. Greeks disgrace themselves with the culture they use today compared to that of which they apparently "Used long ago". An ethnicity is just a thing of who you relate to.
TheAwp45 1 year ago
@TheAwp45 Also, it is a widely known fact that the ancient Greeks mixed with foreign slaves. Especially the Athenians. Which proves my point even further. Lastly, the age of Alexander the Great is called the HELLENISTIC age, not the Macedonian Age. There is a reason for that....
AegeanKing 1 year ago
@AegeanKing
Mixing doesn't really make anything unless in large amounts. Also, Alexander never imposed a Greek as a satrap on any of his provinces. He let most of the satraps be the last ones to hold the position before he conquered Persia. Hellenism of Asia and Egypt is entirely coincidental since not a single historian talks about it. Besides why would Greeks rebel on one of their own? Sure it may be because they are harsh but the Greeks said they hated Macedonians for being "barbarian"
TheAwp45 1 year ago
@TheAwp45 Why would Greeks rebel?? is that a joke?? Greeks ALWAYS rebel. Even against their own. Greeks were always killing each other. The Ionian Greeks fought with the Persians AGAINST the Athenian Greeks because they did not want to be under the Athenians. This was COMMON in Greece. Macedonia (which is a Greek word with a Greek meaning) did not conquer the southern Greek states. Macedonia UNITED the Greeks states through war. Hence, the league of corinth. (continued)
AegeanKing 1 year ago
@AegeanKing
I said they rebelled because they did not like to be ruled by a barbarian. The Greeks that rebelled against the Athenians just did not want to be under Athenians rule. Many ancient historians even write about Barbarians ruling Greece.
TheAwp45 1 year ago
@TheAwp45 Just like Genghis Khan united the mongol tribes through war, Phillip united the Greek states through war. It was the historian Isocrates that wrote a letter to Phillip (leader of the Corinthian League) Urging a Panhellenic crusade against the Persians. Lastly, Modern Greek is VERY close to Koine. I can read and Understand a 2nd century Gospel written in Koine. You know NOTHING about the Greek language. (continued)
AegeanKing 1 year ago
@AegeanKing
Again most ancient historians don't say Philip unified the Greek nations, they say he conquered them. He didn't conquer Sparta either. Isocrates writes in his letter to Philip,
[141] "for since you have overthrown more nations than any of the Hellenes has ever taken cities" Isn't Philip a Hellene? If Philip is a Hellene, the writing would probably go like this "for since you have overthrown more nations then any other Hellene has taken a city" Big difference isn't it?
TheAwp45 1 year ago
@TheAwp45 The only language that has the same level of continuity through thousands of years is Chinese. All languages evolve one way or another. 16th century English is not the same as 21st century English. But, they are still mutually intelligible. The Reason that the new testament of the Bible was written in Greek is because of ALEXANDER. Why do you think there is such a thing as "Hellenistic Jews". The Hellenistic age is a spreading of the Greek langauge and culture through Alexander.
AegeanKing 1 year ago
@AegeanKing
No early English is every hard to read. Let me explain again, the spread of Hellenism is entirely coincidental.
TheAwp45 1 year ago
@TheAwp45 What do you think Greco-Buddhism is? Hellenism of Asia and Egypt is NOT coincidental. Alexander went around building cities and naming them "Alexandria" (hence the city in Egypt) Also teaching the Greek language. He even forced his persian soldiers to learn Greek. The Pontian Greeks are the ancestors of Greek settlers and hellenized persians. Pontian King Mithradates IV was a Hellenized Persian who claimed descent from Alexander.
AegeanKing 1 year ago
@AegeanKing
Alexander forced many people but his own Macedonians to speak Greek. Plutarch in his biography of Mark Antony said Cleopatra and here ancestors spoke Macedonian as a modern tongue. But she still spoke Greek didn't she?
TheAwp45 1 year ago
@TheAwp45 You FYROManians Always like to shout about how you have the right to self-identify yourself. Why don't you apply the same standard to Alexander the Great??? Alexander the Great claimed descent from Achilles (Greek hero) and he claimed Descent from the Argead Dynasty which is a Greek dynasty. Alexander considered himself a Greek. That is all that matters. Lastly, you are completely taking the word Barbarian out of context. Macedonians were not Barbarians in an ethnic sense. (cont)
AegeanKing 1 year ago
@TheAwp45 Barbarian was used in a politically and culturally backwards sense towards the macedonians. They were a kingdom and not a city-state like the rest of Greeks. Lets not forget that the Athenian orator Demosthenes who called the Macedonians Barbarians was making a political speech because of the Aggression of Phillip. Also, Demosthenes was half Scythian on his mothers side so he would not try and call somebody barbarian.
AegeanKing 1 year ago
@AegeanKing
Give me just one speech in which a real Greek is called a barbarian. Never has a Greek been called a barbarian. Not even Sparta which had been as barbarian as Persia.
TheAwp45 1 year ago
@TheAwp45 You are more than likely a slavicized Greek.
AegeanKing 1 year ago
@AegeanKing
And you are more than likely a Greekified Ethiopian.
TheAwp45 1 year ago
@TheAwp45 Greekified??? No, you illiterate baboon. The word is "Hellenized". Go back to school you uneducated peasant. And quit stealing my history.
AegeanKing 1 year ago
@AegeanKing
Greekified Hellenized the words are both worthless. I have been in School and yet I find more information regarding Macedonia as Macedonia.
TheAwp45 1 year ago
@TheAwp45 they're putanafied too! lol
VonLincoln1 1 year ago
hihihihi BRAVO za maleckovo jas taka ne igram :-)
zeitgeist1mk 1 year ago
Za mnogu godini Makedonci ,kade i da ste
harilaa 1 year ago
tako braco makedonci!
samo igraj!
pozz is srbije!
UNITEDORTHODOXARMY 1 year ago
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skopje or skoupi is from greek word skoupi-dia=
SKOUPIDIA.english is GARBAGE AND THIS IS YOUR NAME GARBAGEDONIA OR SKOYPIDIADONIA
MAKEDONIA IS ONLY ONE AND IS GREEK!
MKDISGREEK 1 year ago
Chovek1...............................
Dance and music has no borders and never had borders. I dance just about anything from any country...what does it mean when you see me dancing?It makes me what?......... 1987 I was in Split now Croatian.........in vacation, Music and dance was just good time for me there. MAN.........You need to go and see a good doctor you are very sick man.
vmalexiou 2 years ago
This is a Macedonian dance, not a Greek one and it is being danced by Ethnic Macedonians - what part of that is not clear ?
Chovek1 2 years ago
its copy, right from our greek dances.same steps.
phoenix1925 2 years ago
Thats bullshit and you know it ! We don't copy anyone's dances, our neighbours copy ours !
Chovek1 2 years ago
sur3.
phoenix1925 2 years ago
I am sure !!!!
Chovek1 2 years ago
yeah every one copy u.
alexander the great is not greek,macedonia is not greek,what else?piramids are egyptian or you have build them?
phoenix1925 2 years ago
No the pyramids are Egyptian, but Alexander was Macedonian, born in Macedonia - he was not Greek !
Chovek1 2 years ago
greek macedonia! OMG!!!
the fact that big part of macedonia is not now in greece doesnt means that macedonia was not greek area.
slavs (you) came after...
also the fact that Vergina and Pella was and still is in greece doent concerns you?
Dont tell me you dont know these 2 places..but if you dont i will believe it..you learn wrong history after all...
phoenix1925 2 years ago
choke on it... y couldnt u have copied it from us?
otkachen 1 year ago
@Chovek1 lol stop delusional yourself, the dance is just like the Greek one, and like all the other ones on the Balkans because it all came from one place....the Ottoman empire which heavily influenced all balkan culture. Haha even the music is Turkish....you have to be tone deaf to not notice the mass similarities of Anatolian music. And no...ancient Greeks and Macedonians never danced or played this garbage....sorry Balkan-man.
TomCat2800 1 year ago
@TomCat2800 The only one being delusional here is you, anatolian ? Are you serious, Turks dont dance like this neither do Greeks, this is a pure Macedonian dance and music. Get over your stupidity !
Chovek1 1 year ago
@Chovek1 Turks > Greece + Macedonia. Your cultures are ours.
TomCat2800 1 year ago
@TomCat2800 No they aren't, please have some common sense !
Chovek1 1 year ago
Chovek1...........We are in the year 2009 and people can read on line just about anything. I feel sorry for you that you are brainwashed to think you are Greeks or Macedonians. Look your self in the mirror and tell yourself honesly what do you look like.? God Help your soul! you are messed up and you need a good hospital to take care of yourself...!
vmalexiou 2 years ago
Read history and stop PROPAGANDA the world now knows the truth.
vmalexiou 2 years ago
As an American educator who has taught in Russia and a former military officer of the US Army who has seen a bit of the world and has had the God-given opportunity to receive a fine education especially in history and politics, all I can say is that Macedonia is and always will be Greek. Study classical history, not fairytale PROPAGANDA. Faulty, created entities such as FYROM cannot possibly withstand the time of history. Your hastily-contrived political creation {FYROM} will certainly fail.
saraktash 2 years ago
I dont care if your an educator and where you have taught, you have just shown you dont know anything about Macedonia and the Macedonians and their history so kindly fuck off and stick to what your good at ....sucking Greek cock !
Chovek1 2 years ago
@Chovek1
Ancient Greek History is studied in EVERY University in the world
How it feels to be humiliated from everyone?
2005defender 2 years ago
the only one who is humiliated is you
Chovek1 2 years ago
@Chovek1
the recent rejects from Nato and EU and the slap from neighboring countries over your filthy MANU it shows clearly who you are
2005defender 2 years ago
@2005defender we expect such actions from Greece and the racist EU, who needs them, were better off without them - still does not change the fact we are Macedonian and you're not ! Cheers
Chovek1 2 years ago
@Chovek1
you havent seen nothing yet. Remeber 2001
2005defender 2 years ago
I remember the cowardly Albanians being shipped off in Nato buses to save their miserable lives, let them come again we will greet them accordingly again ! but if i were you i'd worry about Greece's internal problems - maybe Greece should count itself lucky the Macedonians don't rise up there !
Chovek1 2 years ago
@Chovek1
Albanians reached skopjie in 2001. As for Greece we fucked you and kicked you out on 1949
As for Rainbow they got 2800 votes in Macedonia among 1.800.000 voters on June 2009 elections!!!!
2005defender 2 years ago
Albanians did not reach Skopje, if they did dont you think it would be under Albanian control then, as for the Greeks kicking us out in 1949 they did so with napalm attacks on innocent women and children in villages...very brave people you are - i wouldnt worry about the 2800 votes rainbow recieved in the elections - we both know there are far more ethnic macedonians than that in Greece today, most did not vote out of fear of retaliation by Greek fascists
Chovek1 2 years ago
@Chovek1
if you have any prove of bombing villages etc give the source
fyi your people left between 47-48 for jugoslavia before Greek amu reached that area, So only guerillas left behind who were chased and defeated by us
This is the TRUTh, the res is propaganda
Regarding Rainbow you must knw that bilingual Greeks by 90% claiming their GREEK ethnicity and NOTHING else
2005defender 2 years ago
There is plenty of evidence out there but im sure you would conveniently go out of your way to not bother looking for it because the truth may hurt !
Chovek1 2 years ago
@Chovek1
Truth hurts the liers and the liers have been defeated on 1949 when they raised guns against the legal Greek Goverment
Greek Army beaten up those who tried to annexed Greek Macedonia by force to historically proven unhuman communist regime
Every lier deserves a shamefull End
2005defender 2 years ago
The problem being with your version of events is that you are the actual liars not us, ethnic Macedonians fought to liberate themselves from the occupational Greek state (since 1912), nothing wrong with fighting to free your homeland.The only reason Greece ever had interest in Macedonia was because of the richness of it, all Greece was - was a pile of rocks and ruins
Chovek1 2 years ago
@Chovek1
on the same tken its nothing wrong to defend your homeland and this is what we did
Greek Army liberated Macedonia from Turks on 1912 and from Bulgars on 1915 and kicked out the communists Slavs who tried to annex Macedonia to iron curtain of Tito on 1949
Macedonia is and will remain Greek
2005defender 2 years ago
@Chovek1
and regarding the demographic of Macedonia see the Turkish census of 1904 at any online Encyclopedia
Every liar deserves a shamefull end
2005defender 2 years ago
First of all you invaded Macedonia not liberated it ok - lets get that part straight and second - the census of Hilmi Pasha in 1904 was flawed in that it only distinguished the populace by religion , not nationality so all the various ethnicities were either christian (Serb, Macedonian, Bulgarian) or Muslim (Turk, Albanian)
Chovek1 2 years ago
@Chovek1
what you mean invaded? macedonia was under Turkish occupation till 1913
About Census see the Wiki info that separated people by ethnicity and not by religion
2005defender 2 years ago
Yes i know full well it was under Turkish occupation until 1912, but it went from one occupation to another 3 following the Balkan Wars - namely Greek, Serbian and Bulgarian !
Chovek1 2 years ago
@Chovek1
Was there any "macedonian" state by then?
what was your reaction by then on the partition? see the turkish census 1904
No 'macedonian" ethinicity is mentioned by Turkish
2005defender 2 years ago
I explained this in my PM to you but just because they are not stated in the census doesnt mean they didnt exist ! The Turks could care less how the people labeled themselves as long as they went along religious lines
Chovek1 2 years ago
@Chovek1
My answers based in facts not in opinions
the census details are clear and showing that Greeks were majority on both Thessaloniki and Monastir\Bitola regions
Mentioning by nationality and NOT by religion
2005defender 2 years ago
The Macedonians for the longest time under Ottoman occupation did not have a voice and they had no voice when the Balkan allies invaded and carved up Macedonia between themselves, you know as well as i do that history is written by the winners - in this case the Balkan Allies, so naturally their version of events goes into these encyclopedias your so proud to use as sources. But even so there are snippets of old books, articles newspapers which state the truth.
Chovek1 2 years ago
And more and more information is seeing the light of day which challenges official Greek versions of history and its obvious you cant handle this fact because it exposes your lies !
Chovek1 2 years ago
@Chovek1
my questin is still the same . where was your reaction by then?
and secondly Census of 1904 was not made by any of the winners but from your Turkish Friends
Are they liars too?
2005defender 2 years ago
Well the Turks were the ruling power in Macedonia in 1904 so yes in a way they were the winners - logical don't you think ? And my answer is the same, they could care less how the people described themselves as long as it was done on religious lines, i explained the other part of my answer in my PM to you - i'm not going to explain myself twice !
Chovek1 2 years ago
@Chovek1
Turkish were the ruling power correct
But why they dont mentioning "macedonian" population in their census?
you are not posting facts only opinion which doesnt means much
Fact is the census opinion is your posts
2005defender 2 years ago
No - fact is what the people lived through and told their stories, first hand accounts that have been passed down the generations, because they were not written in fancy encycopedias does not make them any less credible, and i've explained whay that never happened .
Chovek1 2 years ago
@Chovek1
Excuse me these are not facts and even if its truth I;m repeating my previious question How do the reacted by then?
what they did? Bulgarians claiming that your people back then claimed themselfes bulgarians so maybe thats why there is not'macedonian" mentioning in the census but this is an opinion not a fact
2005defender 2 years ago
Of course the Bulgarians were claiming that we were Bulgarian, they followed a similar policy to Greece - which was to negate the existence of Macedonians, but in the process to take over Macedonia for themselves - what don't you understand about that ? I'm through explaing myself to you - you just don't get it.
Chovek1 2 years ago
@Chovek1
dont get what ? even if you are correct the numbers are not lying the number under bulgarian' in the census is less compared to greeks
2005defender 2 years ago
You as a Greek better hope and pray the Turks don't open their archives because you will not like what you will find out !
Chovek1 2 years ago
@Chovek1
and once Turks are your friends why they are not opening their archives yet?
What they are waitinh for?
And btw search TURKISH CENSUS OF 1904 ON MACEDONIA its a TURKISH archive and you will be amazing by the details fyromian History Dtealer
2005defender 2 years ago
All in good time ! :))
Chovek1 2 years ago
@Chovek1
there is not good time mate once you have the "facts" you presenting them, and once you dont have nothing take a look at TURKISH CENSUS ON MACEDONIA POPULATION OF 1904
Its a turkish archive too ,made by yours friends in a good time
2005defender 2 years ago
3 beine in der luft dass nennt ihr n tanz ihr hundesöhne allesamt
3 legs in air and u call dat a dance?? are gay!
nicolas72710 2 years ago
Finally I think that it's better this way.. with fyromian lies and propaganda.. Now the whole world knows the truth .. without the propaganda fyrom migh have been able to fool the world. Now all know that they're fighting agains their bulgarian identity.. all of that because of Tito...Now we all can be really friends...only if we tell the truth long live bulgaria and Greece
pipantis1 2 years ago
These are bulgarian dances! Greece has only one thing to do. Since there is all this nonsense about Macedonia.. then we should revive the ancient dances of greek Macedonia and all of those who feel like greek Macedonians should learn them..Enough is enough....
pipantis1 2 years ago
:-)
forevermkd 2 years ago
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macedonianimation 2 years ago
samo veselo..... makedonci ima na cel svet.... i ke ne ima,,, nie sme MAKEDONCI, ceda na MAKEDONIJA.....
1mkdani 2 years ago
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macedonia-evidence(dot)org
JohannvonWegen 2 years ago
"A Slavic-speaking people, todays ethnic "Macedonians", are descendants of Slavs who settled in the Balkans during the seventh century AD."
( Karen Dawisha, Bruce Parrott, "Politics, Power and the Struggle for Democracy in South-East Europe (Democratization and Authoritarianism in Post-Communist Societies)", Cambridge University Press, 1997)
Macedonia1913 2 years ago
Macedonia2013
rpopovski 2 years ago
beautifull, macedonian culture the best in the world. fuck greece-bulgaria-albania-serbia
TheMakedonci 2 years ago
Around me, I can hear snatches of the same Slavonic idiom as that uttered by Captain Kottas when he was led away by the Bulgarians for execution, proclaiming: Long live Greece!
georgeosgr 2 years ago
The Macedonian kings, who maintained that their Greek ancestry traced back to Zeus,
Robin Lane Fox, "Alexander the Great", p.48
historictruth1 2 years ago
Try searching for the iGenea DNA results before talking non-sense
Ivicakmk 2 years ago
Wake up from your daydream:
The elite historians in the world demands Fyrom to stop with is historical propaganda
read about them:
w w w . macedonia-evidence . org
The just confirm what you can see in every musuem or university in the world. That ancient macedons where Greeks.
Stop humiliate yourself and your people
historictruth1 2 years ago 2
Macedonian kings were proud of their Greek blood,
A. R. Burn, "Alexander the Great and the Hellenistic Empire", Macmillan, p.4
historictruth1 2 years ago
We are Macedonians but we are SLAV Macedonians. That's who we are! We have no connection to Alexander the Greek and his Macedonia.
Kiro Gligorov, (first democratically elected president of FYROM, referring to the citizens of his country), Toronto Star, March 15, 1992
historictruth1 2 years ago
And, anyway, what sort of new Macedonian nation can this be when we and our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called BULGARIANS?
Krste Misirkov, "On Macedonian Matters", Macedonian Review Editions
historictruth1 2 years ago 2
We shall not say a new truth if we mention the fact that everyone, Gotse Delchev, Dame Gruev, Gjorche Petrov, Pere Toshev - must I list and count all of them - were teachers of the BULGARIAN Exarchate
former Prime Minister and Vice President of FYROM, Ljubčo Georgievski, 2007, in his book С лице към истината
historictruth1 2 years ago
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historictruth1 2 years ago
Етнички македонци е диагноза ,а не национална принадлежност. Това заболяване се лекува с факти от историята.....Да опитаме а?
BG4OVEK 2 years ago
bravo malio
pozdrav Makedonci
Da zive Makedonija
cajceto 2 years ago
the makedons don`t mind being neighbours with a bulgarian,greek,serbian or albanian.we do not go around negating who you are.why do our neighbours do this?because of our glory!our door has always been half open.a good macedonian.
makedonistoi 2 years ago
What glory
340 world famouse historians demands Fyrom to stop with its historical propaganda. They also confirmst that ancient macedons where Greeks
w w w . Macedonia-evidence . org
what glory - stealing????
historictruth1 2 years ago 6
If I may, here is my side of the story. I was born in a villages of Drama.I have relatives in all MACEDONIA (Filippopolis, Nevrokopi, Skopia).The dialect was widely spoken.I know a bit.I have found a well documented research that the roots are Homeric, endings Slavic.We know why.When I meet people from Vardaska region,or I hear the music,my blood knows it.Not Albanian,Bulgarian,Turkish, Gypsy, Serbian, etc. Brothers,don't let borders,flags (+propaganda) separated you from your PURE GREEK BLOOD
gapamint 1 year ago
само така МАКЕДОНЦИ!!
со вас сме родо наша
bobo87mk 2 years ago
odite da se ebate grski nikakvi edni :P
PeonianMK 2 years ago
Makedonija na makedoncite
ohrid2211 2 years ago
BULGARTURK SPERM = FYROM DNA
georgeosgr 2 years ago
a jas tebe da ti ja ebam majata kurvinska kopile grcko
ohrid2211 2 years ago
опаа ајде Македончиња напред !!
Алал да му е на малото македонче што го води орото!!
riste098 2 years ago
Да живее Македонија!!!
Long live Makedonia!!!!
Alexander3Makedonia 2 years ago 2
MACEDONIA FOREVER FUCK FYROMISTAN
georgeosgr 2 years ago
fuck you gay
ohrid2211 2 years ago
how many votes did you get in the euro election?
ils1979 2 years ago
Доста веееееќе рааааааазбуди се
свеести се неееееееееееее спи ти
unitedmake 2 years ago
Rettellas wrote "greek music, greek dance" ....hmmm it doesn't sound greek to me dude ....lol
Chovek1 2 years ago
@rettellas
ha ha ha majka da ti ebam tatarska , abe znam deka me razbiras kopile edno Tatar so cisto elensko poteklo ha haaaaa haaaaaaaa
Macedonia forever !
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
greek music
greek dance
RETTELLAS 2 years ago
Cute lil boy!
tashnatjuly 2 years ago
Bravo !! Dancing Day and Night !!
Pozdrav iz Herceg-Bosne !!
grgo83 2 years ago
VE SAKAMEEE BOSNJACIIIIIII !!!
tanja2blonde 2 years ago
hahahahaha gypsies tatars
mikegrecia 2 years ago
gamo tin mana sou re turkospore!
vodenec 2 years ago 3
Ethiopian,
go and watch your fake video posts. Ajde negro begaj!
Argeads 2 years ago
Those kids have white faces like a snow, not dirty looking "gypsies" like greeks
buzz off greek faggot
UberMaKedoN 2 years ago
uber bulgar gypsy from fyromistan those kids are Greeks to the bone as most of the 10.000 slavophones and all the Macedonians in northern Greece live with it slavotatar Macedonia is one and Hellenic
georgeosgr 2 years ago
SUCK MY FAT MACEDONIAN COCK you dirty face gayreek
you are one fuckin pathetic gayreek spamer
Macedonians killed the greek scum like you
o sory i forgot that you are not even "greek"
you are a fuckin mixed genes ethiopian with dark face
Go search and watch clips about Macedonia and Macedonians you fuckin pathetic hellass faggot
UberMaKedoN 2 years ago
uber bulgar see a bulgarian phyciatrist
georgeosgr 2 years ago
Hey you dumb ass gayreek, go take a mirror in your filthy claws and see your gypsie face mulatto
dumbass michael jackson go hang yourself
UberMaKedoN 2 years ago
You are seriously sick. Macedonian to the bone! Go Macedonia! Greek never!
makedonche3 2 years ago
LOL! Both of tou don't even realise how insignificant you are on a map of the world..not only that but decent from the same geneology down the road...Please educate yourselves (Maybe by movig to a more developed nation!!!) and realise you are from the same forefathers...so sad you dont even know what youre really fighting about...
Ciao!
katmyst3 2 years ago
KATMYST3 your floating in a bubble of ignorance you have no whatsoever clue of what is going on so just relax and educate yourself instead of playing jesus.
georgeosgr 2 years ago
how many votes did you party get in greece...4000!!!!!!
you claim there are hundereds of thousands of you...exposed as liers again slav!!! you guys just wont give up trying to steal and cheat
ils1979 2 years ago 2
I don't have a party in Greece, I am an American thank God. Accept Macedonians for who they are---Makedonci! We will always be Macedonians! Greeks never!
makedonche3 2 years ago
if your not greek though...how can you be macedonian...we dont have a problem recognising you as a people...but you have to work out who you are and accept that you speak bulgarian...e.g..from now on im a californian..all the people in california cant be that because i am that...they are americans...and i am californian...its two different things...except me for what i am...a californian...this exactly how you guys sound...it actually sounds pretty pathetic the way i have explained it..damn
ils1979 2 years ago 5
Just like Macedonians say. We are MACEDONIAN. That means NOT GREEK. If you do not understand proper English, I will say it in Macedonian which by the way is taught as a separate language in many prestigious American universities. Ne sme Grzi--nie sme MAKEDONCI. Languages may evolve as yours did from ancient times, but not our cultural identity. As I always say, get a life and accept the TRUTH.
makedonche3 2 years ago
@ils1979 STOP TALKING SHIT THE LAND HAS BEEN CALLED MAKEDONIJA AND NO ONE WILL EVER CHANGE THAT ONLY GOD CAN AND HE NEVER DID YOU HAVE OUR LAND WITH OUR PEOPLE AND TRYED TO CHANGE THEM STOP THE LIES YOU NEED HELP THATS WHY GREECE IS BURNING IN FLAMES
mz2hot2nv 1 year ago
Zmia98 everybody wants to live in peace but you can't live in peace with a people who don't recognize your ethnicity, religion and nation especially when that people are your immediate neighbours, once they recognise and accept us as Macedonians then the healing process & good neighbourly relations can begin - but thats my opinion
Chovek1 2 years ago