RON PAUL CALLS AMERICAN PEOPLE WAR CRIMINALS, RON PAUL GIVES AMERICAN PEOPLE BAD REPUTATION AROUND THE WORLD. NOW NOBODY WILL BUY PRODUCTS MADE IN USA, THANK YOU SO MUCH RON PAUL UR REAL PATRIOT!
I cannot believe Ben Stein...accusing Ron Paul's views as being anti-semitic! This is unbelieveable hypocrisy from someone that was criticized not too long ago by the anti-defamation league for spreading misinformation about the holocaust. What an idiot.
As a liberal, I am voting for Ron Paul in 2012. I am only 19, so I am fortunate to be able to say that I didnt fall into Obama's lies and vote for him. Ron Paul is one of the realest candidates I have ever came across, he is not afraid to be honest about important issues, and is not concerned with how his fellow conservatives view him. RON PAUL 2012!
@akkalakakalakka but thats whats great about ron, he knows everyone feels strongly about their own opinions and gives them a chance to defend them with logic, there is no higher humility in my book
@akkalakakalakka for giving someone the chance to say what they believe and be acknowledged no matter how stupid Ben was and is. and your not ok with that?
@philateliceun not sayind he's a nazi,did i say that? no,can you fucking read? My point is his if he was president during wwII his isolationism would've got us nuked by Hitler,he was working on nukes an d rocket's ask England? i guess you support his saying Isreal caused hamas and we invented bin-laden,Paul is smart on money but his disastrous foreign policy will keep him from ever going anywhere
@stank1974hole yeah, Israel caused hamas you dipshit, that happens when you bullddozer peoples houses and say they got to move while they have lived there for centuries. You invite bin Laden if you kill arab civilians in a war that is only about politics. I know you people like to live in a bubble where everything is perfect, how could you invite such acts right? Your country or its policies have NEVER done something wrong. Wipe the shit out of your eyes and wake the fuck up.
You really need to heavily investigative, research and read into what he is saying to understand that everything Paul says about foreign policy is on the money.
I use to have the exact same notion as you: That he knew economics real well and that he was dead wrong on foreign policy. I can as someone who use to think exactly like you, he's right.
@stank1974hole yeah you are respectfully an idiot. Theres a reason that every person/organization with any money/power all hate Ron Paul and convince people like you to irrationally hate him as well. Just silly really......
@Slotten68 never said i hate Paul,heis pretty smart on the money problems but lets face it, Paul will never go anywhere,at least i dont have delusional fantasy's of him being president,or some kind of hero,LOL, if im a idiot what that make you?
@stank1974hole Wishing the best for you country and being fed up when the people you have in power are ruining everything, yeah if thats delusional than call me whatever you like :)
We have let Israel run this country for too long! They use our sons to fight and die in their wars! If the fuss was about WMD's we would have attacked N. Korea, too. Instead we are always urged to attack Arab countries. Now they're trying to get us involved in Iran - not hard to see who controls our govt! Ron Paul is right on!
I would absolutely LOVE to see a debate between Doctor/Congressman Ron Paul and that half-wit loudmouth Ben Stein... PROPERLY moderated by someone who ISN'T a lefty mouthpiece!
I think Ron Paul should answer why he is such a Jew Hater and why is wants to put our national defense and econmy at risk because of his Jew Hating agendas
Ben stein = neo-clone fascist controlled by the very people who prompted him up.. the propagandized media. Who controls the media? well the very same bankers who bought out major media outlets when television came to be to control the flow of information and censor out the real facts. Endless vicious cycle of conspiracy.
Why in the hell shouldn't Americans know why these evil men are attacking us? Who are these unschooled shills that seek to hide truth like that from the American people? The most important truth of all, that God forbid its government policy that makes us unsafe not the freedom of our people, facts that have more to do with preserving our freedom AND keeping us safe than the NEXT unpaid $75 billion government is going to throw at its own problem, now trying to keep us safe from diaper bombs.
americans should be ashamed of themselves in general for voting obama when ron paul was an option, but can always impeach obama and redeem yourselves.
The PauliStainians are hurting and they sure could use some of that moneybomb money back. Dope, tattoos, and cigarettes are very expensive, especially in this recession. Paul needs to get correct and give the money back to the Stains
I think Ben Stein has no credibility seeing as he was a speechwriter for Richard Nixon. That automatically makes him lose.
However, on a more serious note, Ron Paul has been fighting the good fight since the '70s. Ben Stein hasn't been very politically active after Gerald Ford's presidency. I would think of Stein as being rusty, and Paul as being completely prepared. But yes, Stein would never agree to have a debate.
I think interview "Ron Paul - Ben Stein" would be pretty exciting. Even though I believe the main stream media seem to be getting it now too. You can see that from the many interviews in MSM in the last weeks in my opinion. This is the beginning of the real shift now, I believe. And it is exciting to see the message filter through more and more.
Zionist Jews are cancers of the world. They will drag American into war after war to serve their selfish interest at the expenses of lives and blood and tax money of the American people. They control the media, Wall Street and Washtington. America is a hijacked nation. How sad is that?
@djancak What kind of labor? What does that have to do with risking capital to make money? If I risk my financial situation to follow a wish to start a business and I am good enough to make money at it I should be taxed more than a guy who dropped out of high school and ended up humping a shovel all day? Other people's money is none of your fucking business.
@settlesdown "What kind of labor?" All labor, intellectual or physical. "What does that have to do with risking capital to make money?" I never brought up risking capital, which is intellectual work. Unfortunately there are often contractual exploits in these "risks" (think Bailouts)."If I risk my [finances] to follow a wish to start a business and I am [successful] at it I should be taxed more than a guy who dropped out of high school and ended up humping a shovel all day?" [more...]
@settlesdown [...more] Risking finances is fine, taking a profit is fine, but for an economy to work properly money MUST circulate, be it voluntary or taxed. "Other people's money is none of your fucking business." Settle down. If other people's policies to maintain their ownerships is affecting my life, then it becomes my business. I'm not suggesting that we disallow people to own make huge profits- I plan on becoming filthy rich myself. We must remove the greedy exploits inherent in the system
That is total horseshit. You said labor. That suggests physical work. Investment is an entirely differnt thing it is not work. It is risk.
The fact remains, the money I earn whether through "labor" of through investments is untlimately MINE. I owe nothing to You, The Government, or anyone other than to continue to provide labor or investment in exchange for money. (and that only applies if I wish to continue drawing income from that source.)
If I want to take all my money and bury it in my yard, or buy Gold, or light Cuban cigars with it, it is still none of your fucking business. I suggest you concentrate on making your own and stop worrying what other people do (or don't do) with their money.
@settlesdown "That is total horseshit. You said labor. That suggests physical work. Investment is an entirely differnt thing it is not work. It is risk." I'm sorry, I use the definition of "productive work". If your productivity occurs by taking risks with your money it is fine by me. "...the money I earn whether through 'labor' of through investments is untlimately MINE." It seems to me you're saying that there should be nobody paid to handle all the other vital functions of society [...more]
@settlesdown [...more] "If I want to take all my money and bury it in my yard, or buy Gold, or light Cuban cigars with it, it is still none of your fucking business." Actually it is, since it affects us. "I suggest you concentrate on making your own and stop worrying what other people do (or don't do) with their money" You've really impressed me with your arguments!! As a reward for your contributions to the debate I will grant you one block and an end to this conversation - Please Settle down!
You miss the point. Again. Its obvious I'm arguing with a a total idiot, and that's just as much my fault as it is yours'. Good luck on being an idealist retard. I'm sure I'll be paying for our insurance along side of mine in the near future. Thank (insert your deity here) for that right?
He didn't call Ron Paul an anti-semite, he said his argument was a common one of anti-semites. Regardless, I find minorities hide behind the racist card often.
I really wish Ron Paul would leave his lost party (for GOOD this time) & begin to unite "liberal-tarians" across the country. Yes, there IS a good deal of common ground between progressives & libertarians - foreign policy, MIC waste, war on drugs, individual rights, etc. Sure, there are some big differences, but our country does NOT need a return to "mainstream" (GOP / REP) conservative. That would be a HUGE step backwards! "TeaBagger" = "mainstream" (back to square 1) UNLESS he bolts.
Ron Paul reaches out to the people,fights for us at Capitol Hill! If people knew more about whats going on with foreign policy he knows people will agree! Notice how Ron Paul dosn't just make personal attacks when there is debate, like Stein. He supports his positions, and is well informed on the issue, and makes it a priority to wake people up about what is going on. Go RON PAUL! We support you and are so glad to have you represent us the people, our liberty, our freedom! Not special interests!
Go Ron Paul! Paul advocates the intention of our founding fathers, free trade and working with nations, defending us, not nation building. Our foreign policy makes no sense. Ron Paul is completely right, in a huge deficit yet we maintain a military presence in hundreds of countries and bases around the world. nationbuilding, pre-emptive wars declared without approval by congress. 'War on Terror' is a joke. Ben Stein makes baseless accusations, of course Paul wants open discussion. Go RON PAUL!
Ron Paul to debate Ben Stein? Yeah right, you have a better chance of seeing Al Gore debate Lord Christopher Monckton on global warming. Ben Stein is a joke.
Sounds like it would be an interesting debate, I don't think the non-intervention view gets enough airtime really, especially as quite a lot of people believe in that kind of position. It reminds me of the Iraq War, huge sections of the population were against it, but they weren't very well represented apart from on some of the more left wing networks. On the video, I prefer when Paul just talks to the camera, the kind of mock interview technique is not something I'm a fan of.
Oh, and also, if whoever runs the channel reads this, using more tags in the description would help get more views, and also help the related videos be more relevant. It seems pretty silly that Celine Dion and Dragonball Z are in the related.
Ben Stein, like Rudy Guliani will not debate Ron Paul, like all of the great neocon Sofa Samurai The repulsive father son duo of John and Norman Podhoretz, Hush Limbaugh, and Max [Never shot a bb gun but want others to fight for me.] Boot are all Cowards who Know their arguments have no intellectual weight.
I'd love to see it, but it won't happen. He knows he'd lose. These guys don't believe as strongly in their position because they don't have the truth and facts on their side. Therefor they're not as willing to defend it.
Ron consistently maintains the high ground, both morally and intellectually. Woe be to anybody foolish enough to debate him! Which of course is why he was excluded from the 2008 debates. Ron is the consummate diplomat, gentleman and AMERICAN. He remains my idol and mentor. I can only hope to ever be 1/100th the man he is. Ben Stein showed his true colors. Tsk tsk tsk.
I agree. I feel a little disappointed that Ron Paul seems to ignore the faith-based motivations of these terrorists, but at least he's the one pushing the WHY questions.
@nemirn Faith-based against the West have been around for a long time. However, that just isn't enough to make a big movement, our foreign policy gave terrorist organizations the "X-Factor" to recruitment.
i find it really absurd, mind boggling that people are interested in been stein.
I had no idea. and now this further explains the mess we're in. that folks are willing to sit around and give listen to this person. wow! where the hell am, i again?
What bothers me is that during the campaign Dr. Ron Paul couldn't get arrested. He was treated like a second-class pariah by George Stephanopolis, Neil Cavuto, Sean Hannity et al - as well as virtually ignored by the G.O.P. Now he's the sage the media goes running to. I hope he runs in 2012 I dont care what party. Better late than never...
C'mon Ben...are you up to a few rounds in the ring with the good Doctor Paul? (Before you make that decision, I'd advise having lunch with Rudy Giuliani).
Ben Stein is a moron. Talk about a self-obsessed blowhard who thinks he knows it all. He needs to stick to Ferris Buehler movies so people can laugh at his dull and obtuse point of view instead of pretend it has any merit.
I don't think it's right for Ben Stein to be considered a creditable person, he has a history of lieing. Debating him make it look like there is equal validity from both sides but Ron's point I would have to say has merit and Ben is just a voice box of talking points with no real brain behind the words.
I love how "surprise cockfags!" is in the Related Videos on the right :D (That's from Team America: World Police -- so does Youtube use some kind of voice recognition software to match "world police" from ron paul with that?)
The difference between Ron Paul and MOST politicians is that Ron Paul would welcome any moderated debate and would not have to resort to under-handed tricks and name-calling ("antisemite," "terrorist," etc.) to win a debate. His principles speak for themselves.
I don't hate Ben Stein. I agree with some of what he says. I disagree with him on other things. But calling Ron Paul an anti-semite because of Ron's foreign policy is all too common in politics and the media. It sells a lot of advertising, but it's appalling. Ben should be ashamed.
I would welcome that debate. I think both Paul and Stein have brought up some interesting points on a number of issues. I don't agree with either one on everything, but that would be a great debate to see.
I do appreciate the vid blog Ron Paul gives us on a consistent basis, but could his camera operator please take a course in composition. I've seen better work from middle school students with a flip cam.
@hotblud82 Perhaps "looney" is too harsh a description for Ron Paul.. I supported him for a long time before I started really getting deep into the issues. I think his views on free market economics and the role of government are fundamentally flawed. Saving comment space, check Wikipedia's article on Free_market#Criticism - I subscribe to a Marxist viewpoint of how economics should be handled. Please note though that I am NOT an Obama supporter - he is just as fascist as Bush was IMHO.
To think that his views on free markets economics are flawed means that you did not dig deep enough. free markets can never occur without addressing money. I agree that full on honest Kucinich type socialism would be better for the people than the corporatism we live under today, but the problem is, will we always have an honest gov't run by honest people when they have all the keys? Study Rothbard before you denounce free markets, otherwise you're denouncing something you don't understand.
"Study Rothbard before you denounce free markets" - i just looked up the wiki article on Murray Rothbard. I must say I've already heard several arguments for anarcho-capitalism and it seems to me that very few of them could be sustainably implemented. I think it puts far too much faith in human nature and would create an environment of anarchy.
@ all the folks down-voting my posts and marking me as spam: you're obviously very intelligent :-D keep up the great contributions
Having a government puts far more faith in human nature than anarcho-capitalism.
You're talking about giving a small group of people that manage to win a popularity contest, the power to kill, tax and imprison you if you don't do what they want.
@Spartacus76 Government is the inevitable consequence of human nature - we form hierarchical systems that is going to lead to certain individuals having far more power than others. Your anarchist ideas would eventually lead to some form of government as has every other anarchist state in the world. the problem is not that government inevitably leads to abuse, people do that by themselves, it's that we elect the "popularity contest" assholes into power. we need to set "standards for employment"
You've completely evaded what I just said, thus proving you can't make a logical case for having a government.
Saying that humans form hierarchical systems is not an argument for government, it's an argument that people like to enter into voluntary organizations. Since governments are not voluntary organizations, you've just disproved your own argument again.
"You've completely evaded what I just said, thus proving you can't make a logical case for having a government." This was a silly opening to your rebuttal and you know it.
"Saying that humans form hierarchical systems is not an argument for government" that's right, it's an argument that your proposal is futile. "Since governments are not voluntary organizations, you've just disproved your own argument again." Again? Oh please. Governments can either be forced or voluntary. Quich being such a
No it wasn't silly, and seeing as how this is the only response you can muster you pretty much proved me right that you have no actual argument. Voluntary hierarchies can and will exist in the absence of government. Equating a voluntary organization with a government just shows you aren't thinking. That was apparent from the start though when you immediately resorted to logical fallacies to defend your opinion.
@17Spartacus76 "seeing as how this is the only response you can muster you pretty much proved me right that you have no actual argument" funny, I thought the same about your last response. "Voluntary hierarchies can and will exist in the absence of government" so will involuntary ones. "Equating a voluntary organization with a government just shows you aren't thinking" you didn't make a point or an argument here. "...you immediately resorted to logical fallacies to defend your opinion." [more..]
@17Spartacus76 [...more] Sounds like a red herring to me. You have resorted to attacking my character, making false assumptions, and insisting that I am dumb. I am giving you one more opportunity to shape up your argument and attitude. You said "You're talking about giving a small group of people that... win a popularity contest, the power to kill, tax and imprison you..." and I said the problem is "that we elect the "popularity contest" assholes into power." This is not an evasive response.
Lol, I get 2 whole boxes now? You must really be getting upset. You do realize that you admitted that governments are a complete failure because "the problem is 'that we elect the 'popularity contest' assholes into power.'" Do you really think you're making any kind of defense for keeping them around?
@17Spartacus76 "Lol, I get 2 whole boxes now? You must really be getting upset." Very cute response! You have consistently demonstrated that you are unwilling/incapable to substantiate rational argument in this conversation, instead resorting to child-like ridicule, straw man assertions, begging the question, and a supercilious attitude. Consequentially, you are blocked and this will be my last reply to you. Please consider visiting a psychiatrist to help with some of your issues [more...]
@17Spartacus76 [...more] "You do realize that you admitted that governments are a complete failure because "the problem is 'that we elect the 'popularity contest' assholes into power.'"" Yes I do. "Do you really think you're making any kind of defense for keeping them around?" Keeping what around? This sentence is very vague. [more...]
@17Spartacus76 [...more] If you meant keeping the assholes in power, then No. If you meant keeping a federated government, then Yes, I do really think I was making a kind of defense for keeping it around; Unfortunately you failed to engage in this conversation as an adult and it will be terminated here. Goodbye 17Spartacus76.
I think you are selling yourself in your intellectual pursuits. Youtube arguments will never replace the personal knowledge gained by reading. Man, Economy, and State, What Has Government Done to Our Money?, or reading FA Hayek's Prices and Production. Just as I have read the work of all the great Keynesians, you should always hear both sides (not just youtube arguments). Funny you say free markets puts too much faith in human nature, what do you think the basis of Keynesian economics is?? Haha
"I think you are selling yourself in your intellectual pursuits" I have no idea what this means. "Youtube arguments will never replace the personal knowledge gained by reading...you should always hear both sides (not just youtube arguments)" Are you making an assumption that I don't read? "what do you think the basis of Keynesian economics is?" Precisely, so what's your point? Keynesian economics is not what I subscribe to but its better than a pure capitalist dog-eat-dog economy.
I am assuming you haven't read the important pieces of literature that are the foundation of the argument for free markets. Listening to someone's opinion they formed from Ron Paul or Peter Schiff is not how you understand it. To suggest that Austrian economics with SOUND MONEY is less humane than the Keynesian/corporatism we live under shows your lack of knowledge on the subject. You should be concerned about the monopoly over our money and credit! What school of thought do you subscribe to?
@soundmoneyfan "I am assuming you haven't read the important pieces of literature that are the foundation of the argument for free markets." I could easily make the contrary assumptions about you. "Listening to someone's opinion they formed from Ron Paul or Peter Schiff is not how you understand it." I know that. " To suggest that Austrian economics with SOUND MONEY is less humane than the Keynesian/corporatism we live under shows your lack of knowledge on the subject." [more...]
@soundmoneyfan [...more] The last statement was condescending, and falsely assumed that I support corporatism "You should be concerned about the monopoly over our money and credit!" I am concerned about this and I have a different view on what caused it and how to prevent it from happening "What school of thought do you subscribe to?" In an earlier statement I said that I subscribe to a Marxist viewpoint. Contractual exploitation of labor & property by capitalists leads to economic instability
@djancak Sticking a gun in someone's face for refusing to give up half their income (taxation) is neither ethical or practical compared to the voluntary exchange of goods and services.
@qkholster "Sticking a gun in someone's face for refusing to give up half their income (taxation) is neither ethical or practical compared to the voluntary exchange of goods and services" Firstly, nobody is sticking guns in faces for not paying taxes. Secondly, your argument assumes that everyone is capable of making consistent ethical exchanges of goods and services. Thirdly, people who become obscenely wealthy WITHOUT performing labor have not earned their income and ought to be taxed so
@qkholster "Put the gun down kid." Wow, that statement was both clever and insightful! Never had I ever heard such a brilliant rebuttal! Please add me to your buddy list as you are clearly someone of genuine worth to us all!
I once was a Marxist as well in my younger years. I have read Marx, Engels, Keynes, Samuelson, Stiglitz, Krugman on top of the Keynesian studies required to receive my masters. I never said you supported corporatism. Capitalism is only a problem when it fuses with government. When you centralize power and money, you will not only bring forward the do-gooders. That is how you end up a Stalin, a Kim Jung-il, or a Saloth Sar (Pol Pot). Historically Marxism has proven that it can't work economically
Ben Stein is an ass.
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RON PAUL CALLS AMERICAN PEOPLE WAR CRIMINALS, RON PAUL GIVES AMERICAN PEOPLE BAD REPUTATION AROUND THE WORLD. NOW NOBODY WILL BUY PRODUCTS MADE IN USA, THANK YOU SO MUCH RON PAUL UR REAL PATRIOT!
democratsaresmart 7 months ago
I cannot believe Ben Stein...accusing Ron Paul's views as being anti-semitic! This is unbelieveable hypocrisy from someone that was criticized not too long ago by the anti-defamation league for spreading misinformation about the holocaust. What an idiot.
J3KYLL 10 months ago
Ron Paul would mop the floor with Ben Stein.
streetmagicstyle 1 year ago 3
As a liberal, I am voting for Ron Paul in 2012. I am only 19, so I am fortunate to be able to say that I didnt fall into Obama's lies and vote for him. Ron Paul is one of the realest candidates I have ever came across, he is not afraid to be honest about important issues, and is not concerned with how his fellow conservatives view him. RON PAUL 2012!
whotookmypiewtf 1 year ago
@whotookmypiewtf wont happen hes too old lol
t10h190 1 year ago
@t10h190 we had a retarded president and obama last ten years, i have no problem having an old president.
dase4321 1 year ago
Ron Paul challenging Ben Stein legitimizes Ben and his view points, and I don't know if I'm OK with that.
akkalakakalakka 1 year ago
@akkalakakalakka but thats whats great about ron, he knows everyone feels strongly about their own opinions and gives them a chance to defend them with logic, there is no higher humility in my book
GaryGUY23 1 year ago
@akkalakakalakka for giving someone the chance to say what they believe and be acknowledged no matter how stupid Ben was and is. and your not ok with that?
dase4321 1 year ago
ben is wuss pussy dick sucker.
alihammadshah 1 year ago
if it was up to people like Paul,we'd be speaking german youall are fuckins alex jonrs zombies
stank1974hole 1 year ago
@stank1974hole why? he is a nazi because he doesn't like Ben Stein? Mein Kampf begins to make sense with that kind of argument.
philateliceun 1 year ago
@philateliceun not sayind he's a nazi,did i say that? no,can you fucking read? My point is his if he was president during wwII his isolationism would've got us nuked by Hitler,he was working on nukes an d rocket's ask England? i guess you support his saying Isreal caused hamas and we invented bin-laden,Paul is smart on money but his disastrous foreign policy will keep him from ever going anywhere
stank1974hole 1 year ago
@stank1974hole yeah, Israel caused hamas you dipshit, that happens when you bullddozer peoples houses and say they got to move while they have lived there for centuries. You invite bin Laden if you kill arab civilians in a war that is only about politics. I know you people like to live in a bubble where everything is perfect, how could you invite such acts right? Your country or its policies have NEVER done something wrong. Wipe the shit out of your eyes and wake the fuck up.
philateliceun 1 year ago
@stank1974hole
You really need to heavily investigative, research and read into what he is saying to understand that everything Paul says about foreign policy is on the money.
I use to have the exact same notion as you: That he knew economics real well and that he was dead wrong on foreign policy. I can as someone who use to think exactly like you, he's right.
rmccay88 1 year ago
@stank1974hole yeah you are respectfully an idiot. Theres a reason that every person/organization with any money/power all hate Ron Paul and convince people like you to irrationally hate him as well. Just silly really......
Slotten68 1 year ago
@Slotten68 never said i hate Paul,heis pretty smart on the money problems but lets face it, Paul will never go anywhere,at least i dont have delusional fantasy's of him being president,or some kind of hero,LOL, if im a idiot what that make you?
stank1974hole 1 year ago
@stank1974hole Wishing the best for you country and being fed up when the people you have in power are ruining everything, yeah if thats delusional than call me whatever you like :)
Slotten68 1 year ago
Stein's a stain
Frankenpalin 1 year ago
Is Ben saying that the actions of the US are Israeli actions?
billclymer 1 year ago
go get him ben...you are a hero...I have your books and posters sir...
johnsmdm 1 year ago
We have let Israel run this country for too long! They use our sons to fight and die in their wars! If the fuss was about WMD's we would have attacked N. Korea, too. Instead we are always urged to attack Arab countries. Now they're trying to get us involved in Iran - not hard to see who controls our govt! Ron Paul is right on!
MaidAmerican 1 year ago
I would absolutely LOVE to see a debate between Doctor/Congressman Ron Paul and that half-wit loudmouth Ben Stein... PROPERLY moderated by someone who ISN'T a lefty mouthpiece!
rfm2ckt 1 year ago
The founding fathers were murders and slaveholders.
FaaarLeft 2 years ago
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Ron Paul is a douchebag
lmacorp 2 years ago
Does Ron Paul have a biography?
silus2000 2 years ago
Ben Stein better bring a couple sets of underwear to the forum should he debate Dr. Paul.
AngryPenguin27 2 years ago 4
This man is pure class... Ben Stein and others who so quickly pull the anti-semitism card are a disgrace to the Jewish people.
seserere 2 years ago 4
Ron paul spot on as usual. ..and as usual the haters spout the weak anti-semitic nonsense cause that's all they have.
Mattboy2388 2 years ago 4
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Douchebag Ron Paul is a certifiable piece of crap and his scumbag followers are imbecilic failures.
lmacorp 2 years ago
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I think Ron Paul should answer why he is such a Jew Hater and why is wants to put our national defense and econmy at risk because of his Jew Hating agendas
toknow07 2 years ago
o rly??
Mattboy2388 2 years ago
Ron Paul is true American Patriot who protects the interest of loyal Americans.
akamal1113 2 years ago 31
Stein want Americans to die for Israel because his loyalty is to Israel. He doesn't give a damn about American lives.
akamal1113 2 years ago 3
And who do you support a camel.
bozez1 2 years ago
Who do you support ? Israel ?
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Ron Paul is a senile douchebag with a ten cent education. he learned everything from scumbag Lew Rockwell
lmacorp 2 years ago
So true!
He fights the constitution wich respect ALL religions including Jews
toknow07 2 years ago 5
Ben stein will not agree to debate Ron paul
cuz ben stein knows he will lose badly
kingGOTTi12349 2 years ago 27
fuck ben stein
HailRasec 2 years ago 5
Ben stein = neo-clone fascist controlled by the very people who prompted him up.. the propagandized media. Who controls the media? well the very same bankers who bought out major media outlets when television came to be to control the flow of information and censor out the real facts. Endless vicious cycle of conspiracy.
Fallinldols 2 years ago
Why in the hell shouldn't Americans know why these evil men are attacking us? Who are these unschooled shills that seek to hide truth like that from the American people? The most important truth of all, that God forbid its government policy that makes us unsafe not the freedom of our people, facts that have more to do with preserving our freedom AND keeping us safe than the NEXT unpaid $75 billion government is going to throw at its own problem, now trying to keep us safe from diaper bombs.
heymisterderp 2 years ago
americans should be ashamed of themselves in general for voting obama when ron paul was an option, but can always impeach obama and redeem yourselves.
electricgenius 2 years ago 4
Bring it Ben!! You jackass
Dosent even know why terrorist do what they do.
Whats his IQ again? Just goes to show how human emotion can ruin an incredibly smart mans opinion on a very rational concept.
mjm1991nsx 2 years ago
The PauliStainians are hurting and they sure could use some of that moneybomb money back. Dope, tattoos, and cigarettes are very expensive, especially in this recession. Paul needs to get correct and give the money back to the Stains
lmacorp 2 years ago
Imacorp bla bla bla Congressman Paul would kick Steins ass all over a debate, probably explains your stupid fucking comment
wanabyastick 2 years ago
I think Ben Stein has no credibility seeing as he was a speechwriter for Richard Nixon. That automatically makes him lose.
However, on a more serious note, Ron Paul has been fighting the good fight since the '70s. Ben Stein hasn't been very politically active after Gerald Ford's presidency. I would think of Stein as being rusty, and Paul as being completely prepared. But yes, Stein would never agree to have a debate.
cricketjazzclub 2 years ago 2
I would love to see Rep. Paul crush Stein. I have to say though the worst enemies of Rep. Paul are his supporters.
Peace.
Peacetoyouandyours 2 years ago 3
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Ron Paul is a thieving douchebag who needs to give back the money he took in the campaign
lmacorp 2 years ago
more idiots using their mouth to convince people that are infact idiots
avianphlu5397 2 years ago
you mean the money that was donated to him?
grevin789 2 years ago
Let's see the debate! Ben won't agree though, he knows he will loose
K46620 2 years ago
It's time to stop all the talking and commence with a plan of action!
1420truthseeker 2 years ago
Ben Stein would never agree, because he would get his arse handed to him on a plate. Compared to Ron Paul, Stein is a bloody moron.
Hardlydangerous 2 years ago 4
I think interview "Ron Paul - Ben Stein" would be pretty exciting. Even though I believe the main stream media seem to be getting it now too. You can see that from the many interviews in MSM in the last weeks in my opinion. This is the beginning of the real shift now, I believe. And it is exciting to see the message filter through more and more.
dietermaas 2 years ago
how are we going to call out Ben stein?
Emails, phone calls?
hatersfate2 2 years ago 2
Zionist Jews are cancers of the world. They will drag American into war after war to serve their selfish interest at the expenses of lives and blood and tax money of the American people. They control the media, Wall Street and Washtington. America is a hijacked nation. How sad is that?
lwglwglwg 2 years ago
@djancak What kind of labor? What does that have to do with risking capital to make money? If I risk my financial situation to follow a wish to start a business and I am good enough to make money at it I should be taxed more than a guy who dropped out of high school and ended up humping a shovel all day? Other people's money is none of your fucking business.
settlesdown 2 years ago
@settlesdown "What kind of labor?" All labor, intellectual or physical. "What does that have to do with risking capital to make money?" I never brought up risking capital, which is intellectual work. Unfortunately there are often contractual exploits in these "risks" (think Bailouts)."If I risk my [finances] to follow a wish to start a business and I am [successful] at it I should be taxed more than a guy who dropped out of high school and ended up humping a shovel all day?" [more...]
djancak 2 years ago
@settlesdown [...more] Risking finances is fine, taking a profit is fine, but for an economy to work properly money MUST circulate, be it voluntary or taxed. "Other people's money is none of your fucking business." Settle down. If other people's policies to maintain their ownerships is affecting my life, then it becomes my business. I'm not suggesting that we disallow people to own make huge profits- I plan on becoming filthy rich myself. We must remove the greedy exploits inherent in the system
djancak 2 years ago
That is total horseshit. You said labor. That suggests physical work. Investment is an entirely differnt thing it is not work. It is risk.
The fact remains, the money I earn whether through "labor" of through investments is untlimately MINE. I owe nothing to You, The Government, or anyone other than to continue to provide labor or investment in exchange for money. (and that only applies if I wish to continue drawing income from that source.)
settlesdown 2 years ago
If I want to take all my money and bury it in my yard, or buy Gold, or light Cuban cigars with it, it is still none of your fucking business. I suggest you concentrate on making your own and stop worrying what other people do (or don't do) with their money.
settlesdown 2 years ago
@settlesdown "That is total horseshit. You said labor. That suggests physical work. Investment is an entirely differnt thing it is not work. It is risk." I'm sorry, I use the definition of "productive work". If your productivity occurs by taking risks with your money it is fine by me. "...the money I earn whether through 'labor' of through investments is untlimately MINE." It seems to me you're saying that there should be nobody paid to handle all the other vital functions of society [...more]
djancak 2 years ago
@settlesdown [...more] "If I want to take all my money and bury it in my yard, or buy Gold, or light Cuban cigars with it, it is still none of your fucking business." Actually it is, since it affects us. "I suggest you concentrate on making your own and stop worrying what other people do (or don't do) with their money" You've really impressed me with your arguments!! As a reward for your contributions to the debate I will grant you one block and an end to this conversation - Please Settle down!
djancak 2 years ago
You miss the point. Again. Its obvious I'm arguing with a a total idiot, and that's just as much my fault as it is yours'. Good luck on being an idealist retard. I'm sure I'll be paying for our insurance along side of mine in the near future. Thank (insert your deity here) for that right?
settlesdown 2 years ago
He didn't call Ron Paul an anti-semite, he said his argument was a common one of anti-semites. Regardless, I find minorities hide behind the racist card often.
MurderSoul216 2 years ago
that is playing the anti semite card, are you retarded?
majikninja07 2 years ago
@majikninja07 Shouldn't you just make your rebuttal without being haughty?
djancak 2 years ago
idk what haughty means but, his opinion was retarded
majikninja07 2 years ago
I really wish Ron Paul would leave his lost party (for GOOD this time) & begin to unite "liberal-tarians" across the country. Yes, there IS a good deal of common ground between progressives & libertarians - foreign policy, MIC waste, war on drugs, individual rights, etc. Sure, there are some big differences, but our country does NOT need a return to "mainstream" (GOP / REP) conservative. That would be a HUGE step backwards! "TeaBagger" = "mainstream" (back to square 1) UNLESS he bolts.
RonPaulGeorgeRingo 2 years ago
Ron Paul reaches out to the people,fights for us at Capitol Hill! If people knew more about whats going on with foreign policy he knows people will agree! Notice how Ron Paul dosn't just make personal attacks when there is debate, like Stein. He supports his positions, and is well informed on the issue, and makes it a priority to wake people up about what is going on. Go RON PAUL! We support you and are so glad to have you represent us the people, our liberty, our freedom! Not special interests!
AProbableAnomaly 2 years ago 2
Go Ron Paul! Paul advocates the intention of our founding fathers, free trade and working with nations, defending us, not nation building. Our foreign policy makes no sense. Ron Paul is completely right, in a huge deficit yet we maintain a military presence in hundreds of countries and bases around the world. nationbuilding, pre-emptive wars declared without approval by congress. 'War on Terror' is a joke. Ben Stein makes baseless accusations, of course Paul wants open discussion. Go RON PAUL!
AProbableAnomaly 2 years ago
Ben will not debate Ron Paul, because Ben looks like he doe not know how to debate and even if he did, Ron would OWN him....
everett26 2 years ago 3
I think he should just fight him XD
rightwinglefty1 2 years ago
Let the league of women voters host a debate like this.
anarchylogic 2 years ago
Ron Paul to debate Ben Stein? Yeah right, you have a better chance of seeing Al Gore debate Lord Christopher Monckton on global warming. Ben Stein is a joke.
maximusdecimus888 2 years ago
I don't know much about Ben Stein's views, other than that he's a fiscal conservative Republican and supports young-earth creationism
apinst 2 years ago
bens a fucking moron who looks and sounds like he would be smart but is not. closed minded nerdo!!
fupasack2 2 years ago
Sounds like it would be an interesting debate, I don't think the non-intervention view gets enough airtime really, especially as quite a lot of people believe in that kind of position. It reminds me of the Iraq War, huge sections of the population were against it, but they weren't very well represented apart from on some of the more left wing networks. On the video, I prefer when Paul just talks to the camera, the kind of mock interview technique is not something I'm a fan of.
LewisLane33 2 years ago
Oh, and also, if whoever runs the channel reads this, using more tags in the description would help get more views, and also help the related videos be more relevant. It seems pretty silly that Celine Dion and Dragonball Z are in the related.
LewisLane33 2 years ago
Ron Paul's son Rand is running for Senate in Kentucky and is leading in the polls big time !
randpaul2010(.)com
phchartrand 2 years ago 2
Ben Stein, like Rudy Guliani will not debate Ron Paul, like all of the great neocon Sofa Samurai The repulsive father son duo of John and Norman Podhoretz, Hush Limbaugh, and Max [Never shot a bb gun but want others to fight for me.] Boot are all Cowards who Know their arguments have no intellectual weight.
M14Mann 2 years ago
Whooah....! What say you Big Ben?
thbyrnes 2 years ago
hellz yeah it would be cool!!!!
DumbDuck44 2 years ago
Ron Paul is going to be on Larry King again today.
namehoela 2 years ago 3
Why does ben jewstein get air time? why? like the baldwin brother debating Ron on pot? lol what a fucking joke the tube is....
muhls 2 years ago
FUCK YOU JOE JEWBERMAN!
muhls 2 years ago
I'd love to see it, but it won't happen. He knows he'd lose. These guys don't believe as strongly in their position because they don't have the truth and facts on their side. Therefor they're not as willing to defend it.
ArmitageX 2 years ago
Ben Stein would get worked.
Rjackman84 2 years ago 6
"I'm not an intellectual, I just play one on T.V."
-Ben Stein
blue46gt 2 years ago 5
Ron Paul didn't even mention Israel.
Feeling guilty Ben?
MendingMedia 2 years ago 2
Fox News lets the trurth about this slip"
watch?v=rQaj926YhtA
MendingMedia 2 years ago
Ron consistently maintains the high ground, both morally and intellectually. Woe be to anybody foolish enough to debate him! Which of course is why he was excluded from the 2008 debates. Ron is the consummate diplomat, gentleman and AMERICAN. He remains my idol and mentor. I can only hope to ever be 1/100th the man he is. Ben Stein showed his true colors. Tsk tsk tsk.
MadEclectic 2 years ago 3
Ben stein is a fucking idiot, I'm an atheist but I think Ron paul is a great guy because of his respect for the constitution.
DrCrYz 2 years ago 6
I agree. I feel a little disappointed that Ron Paul seems to ignore the faith-based motivations of these terrorists, but at least he's the one pushing the WHY questions.
nemirn 2 years ago
@nemirn Faith-based against the West have been around for a long time. However, that just isn't enough to make a big movement, our foreign policy gave terrorist organizations the "X-Factor" to recruitment.
luciusETRUR 2 years ago
Ben Stein lost it for me with that comment. Was a fan but no more!
MrMDESTINY 2 years ago 3
Bring it on Ben Stein!
phokuzbt 2 years ago
Horrible sound. Really quiet interview, really loud sound effects.
temporos 2 years ago
Kick Ben's ass, Ron!
Cozzmos 2 years ago
i find it really absurd, mind boggling that people are interested in been stein.
I had no idea. and now this further explains the mess we're in. that folks are willing to sit around and give listen to this person. wow! where the hell am, i again?
where is rationale?
dentistsugardusty 2 years ago
@dentistsugardusty people just have different opinions don't assume everyone who thinks differently is a moron.
gbvegeta 2 years ago
It needs to be a youtube debate! No stupid time constraints via network TV! Stein will surely not accept, citing all sorts of nonsense.
IvanDrago187 2 years ago
Ben Stein, a mind to listen to? please...
ukrainesergei999 2 years ago
Ben Stein was out of line in that interview... IMO
Bishop153 2 years ago
WHY?!
I'm trying to figure out why he's on the panel on that day, in the first place.
dentistsugardusty 2 years ago
Call me goofy, but who tunes in because of ben stein???
dentistsugardusty 2 years ago
I think Ben Stein is right on a lot of issue, not this . . . .
ZDWmiamicane 2 years ago
What bothers me is that during the campaign Dr. Ron Paul couldn't get arrested. He was treated like a second-class pariah by George Stephanopolis, Neil Cavuto, Sean Hannity et al - as well as virtually ignored by the G.O.P. Now he's the sage the media goes running to. I hope he runs in 2012 I dont care what party. Better late than never...
bossdowner 2 years ago 3
Extremely ethical man - too bad there aren't more of them.
603881 2 years ago
Go Dr. Paul! Let reason and virtue clean his neoconservative clock.
Elasaltaculos 2 years ago
Your awesome congressman Paul!
Lonnie12345 2 years ago
HAHA this makes me laugh.....Ben Stein might not be a genius, but he knows he has no hope to debate Ron Paul. He will never do it.
cbass5511 2 years ago
Great idea, if Ben is up for it.
drkangravewing 2 years ago
I'll bet Ron Paul will take Ben Stein's money!!
isortparcels 2 years ago 5
lol
djancak 2 years ago
Why would anyone want to dignify Ben Stein when he makes a false racism insult and actually denigrates holocaust victims.
kthorn612 2 years ago
C'mon Ben...are you up to a few rounds in the ring with the good Doctor Paul? (Before you make that decision, I'd advise having lunch with Rudy Giuliani).
ChangeBeginsWithYou 2 years ago
Ben Stein is a moron. Talk about a self-obsessed blowhard who thinks he knows it all. He needs to stick to Ferris Buehler movies so people can laugh at his dull and obtuse point of view instead of pretend it has any merit.
Teyec00n 2 years ago 4
i think a debate would be awsome DOOOOO IT. HAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
dbman086 2 years ago
I would love to see a ron paul and ben stein debate. That would be very powerful because they are both well respected on their beliefs.
metlguitar02 2 years ago 3
I don't think it's right for Ben Stein to be considered a creditable person, he has a history of lieing. Debating him make it look like there is equal validity from both sides but Ron's point I would have to say has merit and Ben is just a voice box of talking points with no real brain behind the words.
AtheistGlitch 2 years ago 4
And it would be great publicity for Ron Paul.
eurohim 2 years ago 2
Ben Stein destroyed all his credibility and integrity when he came out with that ridiculous Expelled film. He's completely out of touch with reality.
lordthawkeye 2 years ago 3
Get your head out of the way next time.
calladuz 2 years ago 2
Ben Steins gonna get his ass handed to him
bswarm187 2 years ago 3
Worse than he did when Schiff handed his ass to him.
eurohim 2 years ago 2
good video
but correct the audio!! too loud in beginning, too low in voice
cmon its not too difficult
WorldCapitalBeats 2 years ago
I love how "surprise cockfags!" is in the Related Videos on the right :D (That's from Team America: World Police -- so does Youtube use some kind of voice recognition software to match "world police" from ron paul with that?)
jotbath 2 years ago
or maybe it's in someone's favorites
jotbath 2 years ago
RONPAUL IS A JEW HATER!!!!
orr Ben stien is a lil bitch?
i vote ben is a bitch
Garbonzo07 2 years ago 2
The difference between Ron Paul and MOST politicians is that Ron Paul would welcome any moderated debate and would not have to resort to under-handed tricks and name-calling ("antisemite," "terrorist," etc.) to win a debate. His principles speak for themselves.
ateal50 2 years ago 3
Man I wish I could have the maturity of Dr. Paul. He is a strong man.
Drealist87 2 years ago 2
Cage match! Two enter. One leaves.
Please notify Ben's next of kin. :D
I don't hate Ben Stein. I agree with some of what he says. I disagree with him on other things. But calling Ron Paul an anti-semite because of Ron's foreign policy is all too common in politics and the media. It sells a lot of advertising, but it's appalling. Ben should be ashamed.
snakex3 2 years ago 2
That is a pay-per-view waiting to happen
JoeyPencils 2 years ago 3
Mr. Paul, you're my hero!!! I use to like Ben Stein, but he totally discredited himself after that appearance on Larry King. Buhler, Buhler....
awakesleepinggiant 2 years ago 2
Bring it on Ben!!!!!
soundmoneyfan 2 years ago
That would be great! a debate to settle the direction of the Republican Party.
Wcoltd 2 years ago 2
I would welcome that debate. I think both Paul and Stein have brought up some interesting points on a number of issues. I don't agree with either one on everything, but that would be a great debate to see.
BillMonarch 2 years ago 2
I do appreciate the vid blog Ron Paul gives us on a consistent basis, but could his camera operator please take a course in composition. I've seen better work from middle school students with a flip cam.
MrPerdition 2 years ago
I think Ron Paul is looney on several issues but Ben Stein takes the cake.
djancak 2 years ago
@djancak Which issues is Ron loony about?
hotblud82 2 years ago
@hotblud82 Perhaps "looney" is too harsh a description for Ron Paul.. I supported him for a long time before I started really getting deep into the issues. I think his views on free market economics and the role of government are fundamentally flawed. Saving comment space, check Wikipedia's article on Free_market#Criticism - I subscribe to a Marxist viewpoint of how economics should be handled. Please note though that I am NOT an Obama supporter - he is just as fascist as Bush was IMHO.
djancak 2 years ago
To think that his views on free markets economics are flawed means that you did not dig deep enough. free markets can never occur without addressing money. I agree that full on honest Kucinich type socialism would be better for the people than the corporatism we live under today, but the problem is, will we always have an honest gov't run by honest people when they have all the keys? Study Rothbard before you denounce free markets, otherwise you're denouncing something you don't understand.
soundmoneyfan 2 years ago
@soundmoneyfan
"Study Rothbard before you denounce free markets" - i just looked up the wiki article on Murray Rothbard. I must say I've already heard several arguments for anarcho-capitalism and it seems to me that very few of them could be sustainably implemented. I think it puts far too much faith in human nature and would create an environment of anarchy.
@ all the folks down-voting my posts and marking me as spam: you're obviously very intelligent :-D keep up the great contributions
djancak 2 years ago
Having a government puts far more faith in human nature than anarcho-capitalism.
You're talking about giving a small group of people that manage to win a popularity contest, the power to kill, tax and imprison you if you don't do what they want.
17Spartacus76 2 years ago
@Spartacus76 Government is the inevitable consequence of human nature - we form hierarchical systems that is going to lead to certain individuals having far more power than others. Your anarchist ideas would eventually lead to some form of government as has every other anarchist state in the world. the problem is not that government inevitably leads to abuse, people do that by themselves, it's that we elect the "popularity contest" assholes into power. we need to set "standards for employment"
djancak 2 years ago
You've completely evaded what I just said, thus proving you can't make a logical case for having a government.
Saying that humans form hierarchical systems is not an argument for government, it's an argument that people like to enter into voluntary organizations. Since governments are not voluntary organizations, you've just disproved your own argument again.
17Spartacus76 2 years ago
"You've completely evaded what I just said, thus proving you can't make a logical case for having a government." This was a silly opening to your rebuttal and you know it.
"Saying that humans form hierarchical systems is not an argument for government" that's right, it's an argument that your proposal is futile. "Since governments are not voluntary organizations, you've just disproved your own argument again." Again? Oh please. Governments can either be forced or voluntary. Quich being such a
djancak 2 years ago
No it wasn't silly, and seeing as how this is the only response you can muster you pretty much proved me right that you have no actual argument. Voluntary hierarchies can and will exist in the absence of government. Equating a voluntary organization with a government just shows you aren't thinking. That was apparent from the start though when you immediately resorted to logical fallacies to defend your opinion.
17Spartacus76 2 years ago
@17Spartacus76 "seeing as how this is the only response you can muster you pretty much proved me right that you have no actual argument" funny, I thought the same about your last response. "Voluntary hierarchies can and will exist in the absence of government" so will involuntary ones. "Equating a voluntary organization with a government just shows you aren't thinking" you didn't make a point or an argument here. "...you immediately resorted to logical fallacies to defend your opinion." [more..]
djancak 2 years ago
@17Spartacus76 [...more] Sounds like a red herring to me. You have resorted to attacking my character, making false assumptions, and insisting that I am dumb. I am giving you one more opportunity to shape up your argument and attitude. You said "You're talking about giving a small group of people that... win a popularity contest, the power to kill, tax and imprison you..." and I said the problem is "that we elect the "popularity contest" assholes into power." This is not an evasive response.
djancak 2 years ago
Lol, I get 2 whole boxes now? You must really be getting upset. You do realize that you admitted that governments are a complete failure because "the problem is 'that we elect the 'popularity contest' assholes into power.'" Do you really think you're making any kind of defense for keeping them around?
17Spartacus76 2 years ago
@17Spartacus76 "Lol, I get 2 whole boxes now? You must really be getting upset." Very cute response! You have consistently demonstrated that you are unwilling/incapable to substantiate rational argument in this conversation, instead resorting to child-like ridicule, straw man assertions, begging the question, and a supercilious attitude. Consequentially, you are blocked and this will be my last reply to you. Please consider visiting a psychiatrist to help with some of your issues [more...]
djancak 2 years ago
@17Spartacus76 [...more] "You do realize that you admitted that governments are a complete failure because "the problem is 'that we elect the 'popularity contest' assholes into power.'"" Yes I do. "Do you really think you're making any kind of defense for keeping them around?" Keeping what around? This sentence is very vague. [more...]
djancak 2 years ago
@17Spartacus76 [...more] If you meant keeping the assholes in power, then No. If you meant keeping a federated government, then Yes, I do really think I was making a kind of defense for keeping it around; Unfortunately you failed to engage in this conversation as an adult and it will be terminated here. Goodbye 17Spartacus76.
djancak 2 years ago
I think you are selling yourself in your intellectual pursuits. Youtube arguments will never replace the personal knowledge gained by reading. Man, Economy, and State, What Has Government Done to Our Money?, or reading FA Hayek's Prices and Production. Just as I have read the work of all the great Keynesians, you should always hear both sides (not just youtube arguments). Funny you say free markets puts too much faith in human nature, what do you think the basis of Keynesian economics is?? Haha
soundmoneyfan 2 years ago
"I think you are selling yourself in your intellectual pursuits" I have no idea what this means. "Youtube arguments will never replace the personal knowledge gained by reading...you should always hear both sides (not just youtube arguments)" Are you making an assumption that I don't read? "what do you think the basis of Keynesian economics is?" Precisely, so what's your point? Keynesian economics is not what I subscribe to but its better than a pure capitalist dog-eat-dog economy.
djancak 2 years ago
I am assuming you haven't read the important pieces of literature that are the foundation of the argument for free markets. Listening to someone's opinion they formed from Ron Paul or Peter Schiff is not how you understand it. To suggest that Austrian economics with SOUND MONEY is less humane than the Keynesian/corporatism we live under shows your lack of knowledge on the subject. You should be concerned about the monopoly over our money and credit! What school of thought do you subscribe to?
soundmoneyfan 2 years ago
@soundmoneyfan "I am assuming you haven't read the important pieces of literature that are the foundation of the argument for free markets." I could easily make the contrary assumptions about you. "Listening to someone's opinion they formed from Ron Paul or Peter Schiff is not how you understand it." I know that. " To suggest that Austrian economics with SOUND MONEY is less humane than the Keynesian/corporatism we live under shows your lack of knowledge on the subject." [more...]
djancak 2 years ago
@soundmoneyfan [...more] The last statement was condescending, and falsely assumed that I support corporatism "You should be concerned about the monopoly over our money and credit!" I am concerned about this and I have a different view on what caused it and how to prevent it from happening "What school of thought do you subscribe to?" In an earlier statement I said that I subscribe to a Marxist viewpoint. Contractual exploitation of labor & property by capitalists leads to economic instability
djancak 2 years ago
@djancak Sticking a gun in someone's face for refusing to give up half their income (taxation) is neither ethical or practical compared to the voluntary exchange of goods and services.
qkholster 2 years ago
@qkholster "Sticking a gun in someone's face for refusing to give up half their income (taxation) is neither ethical or practical compared to the voluntary exchange of goods and services" Firstly, nobody is sticking guns in faces for not paying taxes. Secondly, your argument assumes that everyone is capable of making consistent ethical exchanges of goods and services. Thirdly, people who become obscenely wealthy WITHOUT performing labor have not earned their income and ought to be taxed so
djancak 2 years ago
@djancak Put the gun down kid.
qkholster 2 years ago
@qkholster "Put the gun down kid." Wow, that statement was both clever and insightful! Never had I ever heard such a brilliant rebuttal! Please add me to your buddy list as you are clearly someone of genuine worth to us all!
djancak 2 years ago
I once was a Marxist as well in my younger years. I have read Marx, Engels, Keynes, Samuelson, Stiglitz, Krugman on top of the Keynesian studies required to receive my masters. I never said you supported corporatism. Capitalism is only a problem when it fuses with government. When you centralize power and money, you will not only bring forward the do-gooders. That is how you end up a Stalin, a Kim Jung-il, or a Saloth Sar (Pol Pot). Historically Marxism has proven that it can't work economically
soundmoneyfan 2 years ago