When it comes down to character matchups, I like to remember that we're all playing the same game, just with differing styles. There's a reason why street fighter matches have a loser... forget about characters, how do you argue that the winner wasn't the better SSF4 player?
still I think char's should be judged by their playstyle not their "easiness to use" or what ever. Imo the beginner friendly chars are easy to use and honda isn't one of them.
Wait a minute... Ibuki can hip-toss Honda? Shouldn't she end up with a broken pelvis?? The dude's gotta weigh as much as a small car! (Maybe as much as an actual Honda, huh-huh-huh.)
@619kammy No it has the worst range out of all the throw Ultras...this is why I prefer Ultra 1 in this matchup because it goes through her kunai from anywhere on the screen but Meso found a way to use Ultra 2 as a reversal
@Garudanime idiotic to hate characters cause of their tier ratings imo. Honda isn't easy to use if you're playing vs a person who knows what theyre doing imo.
@Garudanime It sounds like you play scrubby Honda's all day on xbl/psn who HB you to death and therefore you think he's easy and OP. But in reality, it's you who just isn't good enough to beat his simple tactics.
@Trigger07 wrong, im a tournament player, you dont know anything about me. i know honda i know all matchups i play street fighter since 1997, and yes Honda is cheesy and easy and too good for his level of difficulty. Like Rufus, wich is a fact. anyone knows that, please stop it.
You are probably the scrub that cant take the fct that people find honda Lame, wich is the truth. what you say is nonsense, "its hard if people know how you play" well Duh, that is with every character.
@Trigger07 hes not Overpowered but yes too strong, its only logical that his damage got nerfed. other characters have to work very hard to deal the damage he can do with 1 simple combo.
you can say what you want, but character slike honda rufus balrog, are too good for their level of difficulty.
its lame that some characters are easy to master and pay off alot too, no respect to that.
@Garudanime ur a scrub....that is it...people pick characters for different reasons....and just because they're good with honda doesn't mean they need to pick somone else to prove that they're good....and just because your getting scrubbed out with bad characters doesn't make you good....tired of this stupid fuckin scrub logic....
@Garudanime street figher has been out longer than '97, and yes maybe some characters are "noob" friendly but that doesnt mean that they are high tier or strong at all. just means that people who know how to play will always be the better fighter in the world of street fighter.
can you tell me the reason for honda's high position in the tier list? i am sure you can't. i think you will answer something like "easy to play, hith dmg"
in fact, you are the one who knows exactly nothing about this game, you proved that with every single post.
@MrCookTM oh my god fucking noob, play me. add my psn, sakagamiNL. i dont play online anymore but especially to shut you up i will
honda is EASY thats a fucking fact you idiot, as well as rufus. if you dont think honda and rufus are easy youre a big time scrub, you are the one thats not debatable.
youre a FUCKING idiot seriously you have NO IDEA who youre talking against, and i wasnt talking about WHY honda is top tier. to me its about such good characters being easy to master,thats the point
@MrCookTM scrubs like you should play harder characters first, then you will agree. the only ones that dont agree with what i said are people that play those characters themselves.
try mastering and winning with some of the more difficult characters, you will notice fast enough that it takes alot more work to win.
those are just facts, why am i even explaining this. EVERY COMMENTATOR on big tournament stream 's recently said the same about rufus, and they where complaining about honda too
@Garudanime i am a viper player und i do pretty decent in tournaments so far, at least in germany. i know what it means to play a difficult character and especially what it means to play a char that has to take high risks in order to win matches constantly... but i still do not agree that rufus and honda are easy to "master" (besides that, speaking of mastering a character outside of japan is funny as hell). both of them have bad matchups, espedially against good zoners like chun, guile, ryu...
@Garudanime BUT i agree with you, that these two characters are easier to win with than certain more technical chars like cammy, ibuki, etc... but that's a thing you have in almost every beatemup. some chars are easier to play and win with, some are harder. that's my point.
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Alysonbsp 1 year ago 2
When it comes down to character matchups, I like to remember that we're all playing the same game, just with differing styles. There's a reason why street fighter matches have a loser... forget about characters, how do you argue that the winner wasn't the better SSF4 player?
SuperCoolLOL 1 year ago
Honda just sat on Ibuki's face...
Excuse me while I jab pine needles into my eyes.
SithLordRagnos 1 year ago
still I think char's should be judged by their playstyle not their "easiness to use" or what ever. Imo the beginner friendly chars are easy to use and honda isn't one of them.
taavikas 1 year ago
honda is so retarted, no respect. luckally he got nerfed
Iyo, great play. props
Garudanime 1 year ago
@Garudanime : He beated Iyo in the 2nd match though. Very well played on his part. You sound like a hater who doesn't know the matchup.
ShihnaFujibayashi 1 year ago
Wait a minute... Ibuki can hip-toss Honda? Shouldn't she end up with a broken pelvis?? The dude's gotta weigh as much as a small car! (Maybe as much as an actual Honda, huh-huh-huh.)
BlackFedoraMan 1 year ago 4
Couldn't he ultra punish her blocked overhead?
619kammy 1 year ago
@619kammy No it has the worst range out of all the throw Ultras...this is why I prefer Ultra 1 in this matchup because it goes through her kunai from anywhere on the screen but Meso found a way to use Ultra 2 as a reversal
JsianSRK 1 year ago
@JsianSRK no, i Do know the matchup
almost anyone knows hes too good, and for his difficulty of usage to me that is Cheap. like Rufus
i dont respect easy to use characters that are the best too, whats wrong with that? nothing
Garudanime 1 year ago
@Garudanime idiotic to hate characters cause of their tier ratings imo. Honda isn't easy to use if you're playing vs a person who knows what theyre doing imo.
taavikas 1 year ago
@taavikas That applies to all characters. "Ryu isn't easy to use if you're playing vs a person who knows what theyre doing imo." Ryu vs. Dhalsim?
Rikana 1 year ago
@Rikana Yeah it does and I'm pretty sure Ryu can win if you play vs a noob dhalsim :P.
taavikas 1 year ago
@taavikas dont make me laugh, honda is easy as hell.
try winning with ibuki or viper for example, youll notice the difference clearly
Garudanime 1 year ago
@Garudanime It sounds like you play scrubby Honda's all day on xbl/psn who HB you to death and therefore you think he's easy and OP. But in reality, it's you who just isn't good enough to beat his simple tactics.
Trigger07 1 year ago
@Trigger07 wrong, im a tournament player, you dont know anything about me. i know honda i know all matchups i play street fighter since 1997, and yes Honda is cheesy and easy and too good for his level of difficulty. Like Rufus, wich is a fact. anyone knows that, please stop it.
You are probably the scrub that cant take the fct that people find honda Lame, wich is the truth. what you say is nonsense, "its hard if people know how you play" well Duh, that is with every character.
Garudanime 1 year ago
@Trigger07 hes not Overpowered but yes too strong, its only logical that his damage got nerfed. other characters have to work very hard to deal the damage he can do with 1 simple combo.
you can say what you want, but character slike honda rufus balrog, are too good for their level of difficulty.
its lame that some characters are easy to master and pay off alot too, no respect to that.
Garudanime 1 year ago
@Garudanime ur a scrub....that is it...people pick characters for different reasons....and just because they're good with honda doesn't mean they need to pick somone else to prove that they're good....and just because your getting scrubbed out with bad characters doesn't make you good....tired of this stupid fuckin scrub logic....
BStokes06 1 year ago
@BStokes06 i laugh at that. play me
EVERYONE in the scene knows honda is one of the strongest chars, as well as rufus.
i dont have problems with the matchup. CAN YOU EVEN READ?
HONDA and RUFUS are yes to me and somewhat everyone i know, too strong. especially for their level of difficulty
other characters have to work alot harder for wins, that is a FACT you moron. people that dont agree are scrubs
and people who main them, cant take the fact that bashers are right.nerfes where 100% fair
Garudanime 1 year ago
@Garudanime street figher has been out longer than '97, and yes maybe some characters are "noob" friendly but that doesnt mean that they are high tier or strong at all. just means that people who know how to play will always be the better fighter in the world of street fighter.
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MrCookTM 1 year ago
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@Garudanime
"people that don't agree are scrubs" xD
lol, you're not even able to debate. ^^
can you tell me the reason for honda's high position in the tier list? i am sure you can't. i think you will answer something like "easy to play, hith dmg"
in fact, you are the one who knows exactly nothing about this game, you proved that with every single post.
go get knowledge, moron... ;)
MrCookTM 1 year ago
@MrCookTM oh my god fucking noob, play me. add my psn, sakagamiNL. i dont play online anymore but especially to shut you up i will
honda is EASY thats a fucking fact you idiot, as well as rufus. if you dont think honda and rufus are easy youre a big time scrub, you are the one thats not debatable.
youre a FUCKING idiot seriously you have NO IDEA who youre talking against, and i wasnt talking about WHY honda is top tier. to me its about such good characters being easy to master,thats the point
Garudanime 1 year ago
@MrCookTM scrubs like you should play harder characters first, then you will agree. the only ones that dont agree with what i said are people that play those characters themselves.
try mastering and winning with some of the more difficult characters, you will notice fast enough that it takes alot more work to win.
those are just facts, why am i even explaining this. EVERY COMMENTATOR on big tournament stream 's recently said the same about rufus, and they where complaining about honda too
Garudanime 1 year ago
@Garudanime i am a viper player und i do pretty decent in tournaments so far, at least in germany. i know what it means to play a difficult character and especially what it means to play a char that has to take high risks in order to win matches constantly... but i still do not agree that rufus and honda are easy to "master" (besides that, speaking of mastering a character outside of japan is funny as hell). both of them have bad matchups, espedially against good zoners like chun, guile, ryu...
MrCookTM 1 year ago
@Garudanime BUT i agree with you, that these two characters are easier to win with than certain more technical chars like cammy, ibuki, etc... but that's a thing you have in almost every beatemup. some chars are easier to play and win with, some are harder. that's my point.
MrCookTM 1 year ago
oh god i must hurry up get a xbox so i can play all the pros in this game i must see where i stand
BahamianKing100 1 year ago
That's actually namameso spelled backwards.
mpi2 1 year ago 2
@mpi2 Wow good eye... I wondered where he went... he was the best Honda behind Akimo...
XxEncore187 1 year ago
IYO <3
hamidious 1 year ago