you would have to be deaf to say that sandy lam's version is better. so, i feel like this comparison is unfair and mean! sandy lam sings flat and soul-less on a song that demands emotional intensity. and the guy who is singing 'how could an angel breaky my heart' in a middle of an iconic 80s song made it a little bit laughable! lol
though i appreciate other asian artists like sandy lam, malaysia's jacklyn victor, korea's So Hyang and indonesia's Anggun.... i cannot compare regine velasquez with other singers even with our charice pempengco because Regine is our priceless artists....back in the eighties, she was the only one who can sing with a combination of soft voice and power
i love sandy lam's singing, very refreshing but i disagree with others comments that regine velasquez is a copycat...how can regine be when she was already singing back in the 80's (1986)...mariah become famous around 1990's and whitney houston was on her early carerr yet not that very well known here in the philiippines because we dont have youtube or internet then....
stupid all the people who keep comparing the two singers.. obviously we can see who is better.. THIS IS A HEAVY SONG and Regine did it well.. so please stop comparing Sandy to Regine.!
Regine sings with very strong power. of course in singing, it is not the more powerful the better. Sandy is very good at mixing the strength with the beauty of women's gentleness. Regine is more able to show she is technically very strong singer, while Sandy is rather more keen to touch the bottom of your heart.
i agree that regine's is the best than sandy. Regine is the Asian Songbird and she is popular in whole Asia, because of her lung power and high notes. tha's why i chose Regine is the best singer in whole Asia..
@killua0831 Well, I think both versions are great and different in many ways. I have to disagree that Regine is more popular than Sandy. Sandy has pretty much sold 10 millions album all these years, her best selling Love Sandy sold over 3millions itself and she has release Cantonese, Mandarin, English and Japanese albums.
both versions are great..regine's is powerful, the second one is kind a boring but with soul...two great artists though.they both have their own rendition
That regin's voice is so annoying, with no soul. I don't think I would ever listen to her moaning and screaming again. But she is pretty and sexy tho.
pls make up your mind for those who compared these 2 versions!!! it's useless to compare this 2 versions, regine's version is with life band(which needs stronger voice) whereas sandy's version is with philharmonic orchestra(which needs tenderer voice).....
I hate Videos like these that take two great Artists and place them against one another for singing the same song. Its just useless. Because an Artist has a certin style that no one else can copy.
sandy is the best in ur standard,gosh, u should search for raph salazar, hes a kid and hes even better than sandy lol... not regine.. please.. shes the best of the best. type raph salazar on the search bar
did i say anything belting? low register needs power too,regine is better not bcoz she belted the "misery" part.sandy just copied the original version, nothin special.now MOVE ON.
wats wrong with singing it de way de original singer sang it? to each its own den. u like power, stronger vocals suit u. i like tender (weak, probably, in ur opinion) vocals. but yeah, to each his own.
For a cross between a Chinese and Filipino, check out Teresa Carpio. Search for 杜麗莎 - Evergreen 1977. She has the combination of tone, range, subtlety, soul and vulnerability. Comments please...
I listen to both Chinese and English songs. Sandy's rendition is more tender and has the element of vulnerability that makes you feel the song (I can still feel it while writing and btw, Sandy is capable of reaching the whistle register). Regine's rendition is more powerful and the refrain has a lot of dynamics and emotional punch. I like both singers. For a cross between a Filipino and a Chinese, check out the wonderful and soulful Teresa Carpio. Have you heard of her?
Hoy pokpok gumawa ka na rin pala ng video mo..Regine is not that good looking anymore. She's already an old fat mistress of ogie. Only dumb flirt like you would like to mess with chinese..Think!!!
I don't even know why we're comparing these two singers. Vocally, Regine is obviously the more capable singer between the two, with due respect to Miss Lam. There is no question about it. Regine's singing is just so effortless and controlled. This song is really not for Sandy in the first place. It's beyond her vocal comfort zone. It's not fair for Sandy to be compared to Regine on a song that fits Regine's vocal range better.
regine:):)greetings from the states...i jus love regine..shes too awesome ..watche her other vids here i must say shes very comparable to celine dion and whitney...same league!!!brilliant..
wat is 'most diff for a singer is to reach those high note'? as a former choir member, i noe v clearly dat it is v ez to acquire singing technics, but not ez to infuse sincerity into a song.
besides, labelling someone as asia songbird on one person based on a single criteria (can hit high notes) is over simplification of matter.
juz cos A likes B, does not mean dat A can deride other ppl or other ppl's pref. there is NO SUCH THING AS ONLY ONE SINGLE SONGBIRD.
miss sandy lam is highly revered within the chinese pop scene, especially in hongkong & china. and in the chinese music scene, i am sorry to inform you that we do not judge good singers based on their high notes. that may be a western interpretation of what a good singer is, but it is definitely not what makes a good singer in the chinese market.
if u filipinos wan to use ur western stds to judge ur singers go ahead. dun judge other singers from other cultures!
I see where the other comments made by the rest come from. It is true that, especially like what rise17 said, comparing artistes cheapens music and singing.
As much as I don't like Regine's singing, I do think she has shown that Asians are just as good as belting as African-Americans (Whitney) or Canadians (Celine) for that matter.
But I still prefer Sandy's version though, subtle and beautiful, a really authentic Oriental Chinese rendition of the song.
@fredongcm iI'd respect ur opinion, but in most cases generally the one that could sing powerfully and with intensity ranging vocals are usually the better singer over the other, vocal quality is the common thing of all singers it matters the most who render the song in a challenging way and in undisputable vocal power. Regine oviously is better technically than Sandy in this song cos Regine used her natural voice in the highest part/climax of the song. misery------------------------
@junjorxful thank u for respecting my opinion. i cant rmbr what i said but i do know that powerful singing is not the ony guage of a better singer. look to the taiwan melody awards (the grammys for chinese pop) for instance. most of the winners of best female singers are not known for their powerful vocals but their ability to stir up emotions. so... i hope u can see why there is no point in disputing who is better.
@junjorxful thank u for respecting my opinion. i cant rmbr what i said but i do know that powerful singing is not the ony guage of a better singer. look to the taiwan melody awards (the grammys for chinese pop) for instance. most of the winners of best female singers are not known for their powerful vocals but their ability to stir up emotions. so... i hope u can see why there is no point in disputing who is better.
I would like to reiterate that I don't like Regine's voice and her singing style. I just feel that Sheena's song shouldn't have ben belted out the way that Regine has done, which is why I felt so moved by Sandy's rendition. That was the purpose of my first comment.
Secondly, I would like to state that as an Asian, I do not agree with the Regine's title as "Asia's songbird". Asia has many other "songbirds" who can sing fabulously as well, not only Sandy, but Siti Burhaliza, Faye Wong etc.
well accept it...Regine is the LEGITIMATE QUEEN of Asia...i have nothing against Ms. Lam but i think she's no match to Regine...but she's good, maybe in Chinese standard of singing...i haven't heard any other Asian singer who sings better than Regine...she can even rival and beat the Vocal Trinity(Mariah, Celine, and Whitney) and any other divas in all continents...yes, there are many other singer who can sing good in Asia, but definitely not better than Regine...
I don't think there is any body that is authorized to certify a singer as the best. Is there? u can measure the range and say, "oh mariah has the widest vocal range" or the sales i.e. "madonna has sold the most number of singles" but hw do u measure whether a singer is good? just bcos simon cowell say it is good? or the "experts"? winning competitions doesn't mean that u r de best.
i wonder why u don't get it. stop provoking others!
Hi fred and universalsongster, I think both of you are entitled to your views of who is the better singer. Everyone has their own preference and there is no need to insult either of the singers. They are both great to their fans and in their own league. They both belong to different markets and hence there is nothing to compare. Why don't we just listen to good music and keep the flames down. =)
i think you guys are all being plain childish. Singing is not about competing who screams/belts/shouts/screeches the highest notes. Singing is not about creating verbal wars over who has more powerful lungs/vocals. Singing is not about comparing two different people who sing the same song and judging either one based on that - everyone sings differently with different emotions and styles.
If you can't even get this straight, u guys dun deserve to be fans, much less ppl who appreciates music!
"regine sold 12x platinum in JUST 1 of her album" - which translates to 300,000 albums.
coincidentally, one of sandy's albums (Love, Sandy) sold 13 x platinum - 910,000 copies in Taiwan only.
i think that there is no end if you want to compare btwn both singers. but just want to reiterate my argument thus far: stop crowning regine as Asia's Songbird. Asia has a lot of other talented singers. Not only Sandy Lam, but Faye Wong, Ayumi Hamasaki, Siti Nurhaliza, Zhang Hui Mei etc
Nobody would want to dare... for fear of frightening off their fans.
Yup, it was the Filipino media and the English speaking media. I am not being a bitterass. You are a bitterass by not being able to accept other people's comments about your wonderful Regine. And only asses like you will take what the media says for real. Brainless. Asia's songbird?! Yes, outta the thousand and one songbirds around.
Haha. I would have those comments made by well-known Asian / Mandarin-pop and Canto-pop artistes and producers about Sandy if I go dig through the archives. But what is the point?
The issue is here is you can love Regine all you can. But you have to acknowledge that there are people who don't like her singing style as well. Stop being so fanatic here - it's so annonying.
I don't think there is a need to top the international charts to prove that an artiste is good. Are you insinuating that none of the cantopop or mandarin singers are good then?
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isnt it ironic? she sold alot yet she only has 667 videos hir n d most viewed r only 5 figured. lol
u keep on bragging sandy's sales.(if true)
FYI. britney spears has far better sales dan patti labelle. but she's no match w/ patti's vocal capability.
same as sandy 2 regine.
i dont know wat r taiwan's standard in music y she sold dat much, try 2 sell her albums here. even d famous charice pempenco took a month b4 she reached gold.
i dare her 2 get even 1 standing ovation w/ pinoy audience
If you dont know anything about the Canto-pop and Mandarin pop then please do not say so much. And if you have done the tiniest bit of research in Mandarin and Cantopop, you would have realized that Sandy is a highly respected artiste who has reigned for over 20 years in the showbiz.
If Sandy sings mostly in Mandarin and Cantonese, why would she go over to the Philippines when Filipinos speak mainly English and Filipino? They won't understand what she is singing!
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now i found out why sandy sold dt much, d only song they understand r cantopop d mandarin. d audience r concentrated
unlike regine. she sings in d language dat majority understands. therefore d audience is less concentrated coz lots of singers sings in english
it doesnt matter if sandy knows hw 2 speak n understand english n filipino, my point is her voice is not amazing dat even our teen amateur singers (w/ originality) can outsing her anytime.
i tink u shldn't be as nasty to compare sandy to your teen amateur singers. u r insulting de chinese people who listen to her or support her.
and u gotta understand wat de chinese people think, feel n look for in their stars. your definition of a good voice n a good singer is diff frm them. their definition of a good voice n singer is also diff frm mine. dun tink u shld keep pushin' ur pt across. regine doesn't rule de world, us americans dun rule de world.
y? r u not INSULTING regine and her audience asking can she do wat sandy did?
im so sorry sweety but even sandy's mid registers are nothing against regine.. u shud compare sandy to sitti. not to a powerhouse vocalist. did anybody said regine rulez the world?
Fine, go ahead and say that Sandy's voice is not amazing. I don't give a damn, because I feel that Regine's voice ain't amazing either. To compare Sandy to your teen amateur singers? I could easily compare your dear Regine to those KTV amatuers who scream at the top of their lungs as well.
The English-speaking market is HUGE. Regine, if she was that fantastic would have sold dozens more! The Cantopop and Mandarin pop market is smaller. Yet Sandy moves more units than Regine!
i dont listen to canto pop or madarin any way.....u can call them canto or mandarin superstar.. but theres only one asias song bird.....make ur own title..search this regine the legitimate asias song bird......
"Asia has a lot of other talented singers. Not only Sandy Lam, but Faye Wong, Ayumi Hamasaki, Siti Nurhaliza, Zhang Hui Mei etc"
i agree...Asians are really talented BUT, i never anyone who sings better than Regine...
"stop crowning regine as Asia's Songbird"
yeah...stop crowning her as Asia's Songbird because that title was already given to her when she won the Asia-Pacific Singing Competition beating ALL the greatest signers all over Asia and Pacific...
CORRECTION: No other ASIAN would want to sing like regine.
Stop thinking that your Regine owns the world, or the whole of Asia for that matter. My Sandy is the one who sounded like Sheena Easton? Firstly she is not my Sandy - I am just irritated that people like you keep putting another singer down, claiming that Regine's version is so much better, more powerful etc. Secondly I would take that as a compliment, to sound like Sheena Easton herself. Thanks.
Sounding like somebody when singing that somebody's song is called respect for the original singer. By saying that Sandy doesn't have her own style just because she sings the song in the way Sheena Easton did it is just ridiculous. If it were a Whitney song they were covering, and Regine belts it the way she does, wouldn't that be impersonation as well?
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y wud it be an impersonation if she's sounding as her own self. i dare you 2 give me links wen regine sang d exact arrangement with the same sound of d original version.
i've been followin' tis thread and I'd like to say smthg in fairness.
i tink fredongcm shldn't have been so harsh on his comments towards Regine. But universalsongster shldn't have started tis whole debate abt who is better. both r respectable artistes, i believe - i hv a hk colleague & he told me dat sandy is one of de most enduring divas in hk & many chinese ard de world who listens to chinese music knows her. regine on de other hand, frm wat i see, also reigns supreme in philippines.
all de talk abt who is better is bullshit. compare artistes who r similar, like perhaps mariah n whitney, or britney n christina, or madonna n kylie, or keyshia n mary, or even patti n aretha n diana. but dun compare a chinese singer n a filipino-n-english singer! they sing to diff audiences, n hv obviously diff styles. there will be no end to de comparison - bcos there aint s'posed to b comparisons in de first place, btwn them!
I have never said singers who do not sound like the original version are disrespectful. Anyway your argument that Sandy is morphing into the other original singer, Sheena Easton, when she sings is interesting because it probably means that she is good bcos she can sing it as well as the original.
Whatever it is, interpretation is up to the artiste. If Sandy's interpretation results in her sounding like the original so be it. I don't see why you should pick on that as a lack of style.
i like sandy too but singing a song with feelings can do by a dozen of singer..the most difficult for a singer is to reach those high note...even me can sing like sandy...
Sandy on the other hand is well-received not only in Hong Kong, but Taiwan, China, Malaysia, Singapore and Japan. Her best-selling album moved over 4 million units in 1995 in Asia. Can Regine beat that?
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-regine sold more than "5 million" n achieved 10x platinum w/ her album r2k in "philippines alone" -her concert was tagged as the greatest concert by an asian artist 4 d last 25 years. -collaborated n praised by hollywood performers. -her song is in ASIAN TOP CHARTS -a CEO -an award winning actress -producer -multiplatinum diva in philippines and asia -1st pinoy to perform in carnegie hall -sang GOD BLESS AMERICA in the US LUNAR PARADE FYI sandy's achievement is dust compare regine
Let me correct you. Regine sold 12 x platinum in the Philippines.
Stop being fanatic. Your view is obviously an American-centric view. So what if she is well-known in the US? She sings English songs. Her singing style is obviously an emulation of Whitney Houston & Mariah Carey. That's what makes her popular.
Stop calling Regine a diva in Asia. Please. Philippines does not equate to Asia. Go and survey how many Koreans or Japanese or Thais or Indians like Regine. Go!
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what are you talking about?
yes, regine sold 12x platinum in JUST 1 of her album.
"what if she's well-known in the US"
-u r the 1 hu told me she's only known in d philippines. duh!
"Her style is obviously an emulation of Whitney & Mariah"
-r u crazy? u can never hear whitney and mariah wen regine sings their songs. meaning that she has her own style, ur sandy is d one who sounded lyk sheena easton wen she sang in this video. no style.
u are the one who said that she is "collaborated n praised by hollywood performers", "sang GOD BLESS AMERICA in the US LUNAR PARADE" and was "1st pinoy to perform in carnegie hall". so weren't you implying that she is well known in the US? i merely just took your point without bothering to refute it. i will still tell u she is well-known in the Philippines, in MY opinion.
Haha! I am crazy? Go and do a survey and see how many Americans feel that she copies Whitney and Mariah.
Of COurse! FYI.... RegiNe sold 5 millioN copies on her ASIA release of the album titled "LISTEN WITHOUT PREJUDICE" ... search it if you want............
"Sandy on the other hand is well-received not only in Hong Kong, but Taiwan, China, Malaysia, Singapore and Japan. Her best-selling album moved over 4 million units in 1995 in Asia. Can Regine beat that?"
yes! Regine is also known all over Asia
she has sold 3 MULTI-PLATINUM Asian albums all over Asia also 2 of her albums(not Asian album) that just happened to be released in some Asian countries reached MULTI-PLATINUM status
her song "In Love w/ You" w/ jacky Cheung became #1 in the ETIRE ASIA
If you feel that screaming at the top of her pitchy voice is good, then fine. Regine wins.
If you think Sandy is bland, then you will be disagreeing with the Hong Kong masses who have listened to her music for almost 20 years and are still loving it. You will be disagreeing with all the Chinese audiences who have bought her albums and attended her concerts over the past 20 years. And these Chinese audiences come from not only China but Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore, Malaysia and even US.
As a Sandy fans, I find Regine's version is beautiful and powerful in her own way. I must agree Regine has a powerful voice. But please not bring Sandy down just because she doesn't have the same vocal range. They are unique in their own ways! Sandy has worked really hard to get to where she is now by knowing her weakness. Peace & Love...
Regine's take on the high part is called "belting" not shouting. Study music so u Morons will know that belting requires the inclusion of "vibrato." Plain shouting is w/out it.Sandy's voice is soothing but she definitely lacks lung power.The bridge part should be belted out using natural voice not w/ "falsetto!" One more thing,Sandy needs to work on her diction for her to deliver english songs beautifully.
Regine's take on the high part is called "belting" not shouting. Study music so u Morons will know that belting requires the inclusion of "vibrato." Plain shouting is w/out it.Sandy's voice is soothing but she definitely lacks lung power.The bridge part should be belted out using natural voice not w/ "falcetto!" One more thing,Sandy needs to work on her diction for her to deliver english songs beautifully.
Well when it comes to a song like this, shouting or powerful doesnt mean its good. Sandy's version is so emtional and tender and it touches your heart.
Regine is a copycat. Her voice is powerful but she is just a singer, not a good artiste. And one more thing... she shouts a lot of the song, less of sing it.
Two different styles. An anthem versus a conversation. Regine paints with broader strokes and Sandy with a more subtle style in terms of modulation of tone and vibrato. The difference in approach styles most clearly seen in last phrase. Love them both!
Of course, REGINE VELASQUEZ. We have to face it; she's the BEST. She even outperformed Sheena Easton's original version. (Sorry Sheena fans! Just an opinion.). x
Totally agree, Sandy is the lengend, she also sings Cantonese, Mandarin, Taiwanese & Japanese songs as well. She was also invited by Andrew Lloyd Weber to perfom his songs during his concert in China. Again, she can sings those songs in a beautiful way differently. If powerful singing style is the only option, I would rather go for Whitney Houston, why Regine?
this a video comparing regine and sandy on a song "almost over you" whitney has nothing to do with this video... regine has alot of vocal power unlike sandy
sorry to say this but can sandy sing the song of legrand? i doubt it even legrand himself rated regine as number 2 next to barbara streisand..regine is the best in whole of ASIA
MAGANDA RIN ANG BOSES NI SANDY SO CLEAR...BUT WITH POWER AND INTENSITY I'LL GO FOR REGINE.
junjorxful 5 months ago
you would have to be deaf to say that sandy lam's version is better. so, i feel like this comparison is unfair and mean! sandy lam sings flat and soul-less on a song that demands emotional intensity. and the guy who is singing 'how could an angel breaky my heart' in a middle of an iconic 80s song made it a little bit laughable! lol
hrnamata 5 months ago
Regine rules!!!
marcojimenez59 6 months ago
though i appreciate other asian artists like sandy lam, malaysia's jacklyn victor, korea's So Hyang and indonesia's Anggun.... i cannot compare regine velasquez with other singers even with our charice pempengco because Regine is our priceless artists....back in the eighties, she was the only one who can sing with a combination of soft voice and power
malorinovalee 7 months ago
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i love sandy lam's singing, very refreshing but i disagree with others comments that regine velasquez is a copycat...how can regine be when she was already singing back in the 80's (1986)...mariah become famous around 1990's and whitney houston was on her early carerr yet not that very well known here in the philiippines because we dont have youtube or internet then....
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malorinovalee 7 months ago
sandy's version is quite boring.. there's no soul.. in short.. ive wasted my time listening to her awful freaking version!
TheVirgingoddess 8 months ago
wtf!!!! how could an angel break my heart??? where did that came from?
seshimaru 1 year ago 2
i like regine's version, its more convincing and powerful
pixma1981 1 year ago
stupid all the people who keep comparing the two singers.. obviously we can see who is better.. THIS IS A HEAVY SONG and Regine did it well.. so please stop comparing Sandy to Regine.!
The05toinks 1 year ago
If Im in the shower, Id like Regine's version. If Im in the tub relaxin', Id like Sandy's =)
wifeyali 2 years ago
Regine sings with very strong power. of course in singing, it is not the more powerful the better. Sandy is very good at mixing the strength with the beauty of women's gentleness. Regine is more able to show she is technically very strong singer, while Sandy is rather more keen to touch the bottom of your heart.
demographeruk 2 years ago
i agree that regine's is the best than sandy. Regine is the Asian Songbird and she is popular in whole Asia, because of her lung power and high notes. tha's why i chose Regine is the best singer in whole Asia..
killua0831 2 years ago
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peaceguyz78 2 years ago
@killua0831 Well, I think both versions are great and different in many ways. I have to disagree that Regine is more popular than Sandy. Sandy has pretty much sold 10 millions album all these years, her best selling Love Sandy sold over 3millions itself and she has release Cantonese, Mandarin, English and Japanese albums.
hotricky1976 1 year ago
the guy ruined everything
seshimaru 2 years ago
both versions are great..regine's is powerful, the second one is kind a boring but with soul...two great artists though.they both have their own rendition
sunnysonny29 2 years ago
both are great singers.full of emotions.BOTH ARE TALENTED.
sentiche 2 years ago
100% AGREE with (gobix2)
amborlee 2 years ago
Don't compare them they have different singing style...
Regine - no one can match her vocal power! she's the best singer of this song after the original and she feels the song....
Sandy - she's like a lounge singer more mellow. but it's OK for soft & mellow lover...
soulfanatiko 2 years ago
Stop comparing artist. It's not good. I'm a fan of Regine but I think Sandy's good too of her version. Baka sabihin ibang lahi conceited tayo di ba?
MJ19971 2 years ago
di bagay icompare! -.-
DaryllJade 2 years ago
That regin's voice is so annoying, with no soul. I don't think I would ever listen to her moaning and screaming again. But she is pretty and sexy tho.
viagraplus 2 years ago
well it's not screaming my dear....what you know about music.moron....regine is the queen....
sunnysonny29 2 years ago
I Love Sandy!! wo ai ni!!
ludwighugo 2 years ago
pls make up your mind for those who compared these 2 versions!!! it's useless to compare this 2 versions, regine's version is with life band(which needs stronger voice) whereas sandy's version is with philharmonic orchestra(which needs tenderer voice).....
gobix2 2 years ago
bat sila ikinumpare, ?????
hindi ata tama.....
avatar3664 2 years ago
Regine Velasquez*****
-seductiveness
-powerful
-effortless
-beautiful
-clear
iJonel 2 years ago
whos this sandy????a maggot???hahahahah....she sounds so amatuer...just like her supporters...hahahah
thynihillz 2 years ago
I hate Videos like these that take two great Artists and place them against one another for singing the same song. Its just useless. Because an Artist has a certin style that no one else can copy.
MaidenFlowerElf 2 years ago 2
ill go for regine's version,,,not only because im a filipina but i like the way regine sang the song
mikelisda 2 years ago
I think people should know that not everyone has to sing in a "powerful" way. You can't ask Sinead O'Connor to sing like Mariah Carey for god's sake.
wilzun 2 years ago
SANDY sounded NERVOUS
gian032 2 years ago
sandy is the best in ur standard,gosh, u should search for raph salazar, hes a kid and hes even better than sandy lol... not regine.. please.. shes the best of the best. type raph salazar on the search bar
argelmontemayor 2 years ago
sandy is good but she need more power
argelmontemayor 2 years ago
so ur criteria of good singing is more power.? the more powerful ur belting is, the better the singing?
fredongcm 2 years ago
did i say anything belting? low register needs power too,regine is better not bcoz she belted the "misery" part.sandy just copied the original version, nothin special.now MOVE ON.
argelmontemayor 2 years ago
wats wrong with singing it de way de original singer sang it? to each its own den. u like power, stronger vocals suit u. i like tender (weak, probably, in ur opinion) vocals. but yeah, to each his own.
danielnchip 2 years ago
no point comparing dudes
the two singers interpreted the song differently
in my opinion Sandy sang out the subtle sorrow in the song
while regine's version is more powerful
it just depends on what you prefer
so , dun fight lol
ecnirpelttil 2 years ago 4
its obvious who outsung who....
babydoms 2 years ago
i don't know that girl from Hong Kong. But she has a sweet voice too.
But Regine V. is an authentic Asian singer already. with a technical voice
iJonel 2 years ago
For a cross between a Chinese and Filipino, check out Teresa Carpio. Search for 杜麗莎 - Evergreen 1977. She has the combination of tone, range, subtlety, soul and vulnerability. Comments please...
SongSwain 2 years ago
She is not too bad!
danielnchip 2 years ago
because she's great!
iJonel 2 years ago
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marvelouise 3 years ago
_Regine all the way_
_but sandy did it well in respect to her and hongkong singers_
_stop this kind of versus guys_
_its not good_
belter25 3 years ago 2
I listen to both Chinese and English songs. Sandy's rendition is more tender and has the element of vulnerability that makes you feel the song (I can still feel it while writing and btw, Sandy is capable of reaching the whistle register). Regine's rendition is more powerful and the refrain has a lot of dynamics and emotional punch. I like both singers. For a cross between a Filipino and a Chinese, check out the wonderful and soulful Teresa Carpio. Have you heard of her?
SongSwain 3 years ago 4
Hoy pokpok gumawa ka na rin pala ng video mo..Regine is not that good looking anymore. She's already an old fat mistress of ogie. Only dumb flirt like you would like to mess with chinese..Think!!!
benjeroso 3 years ago
Indeed, sandy is no match to regine, even miss teng is no match... its hard to find a HK singer or even taiwan singer to beat regine...
amelimited 3 years ago
I don't even know why we're comparing these two singers. Vocally, Regine is obviously the more capable singer between the two, with due respect to Miss Lam. There is no question about it. Regine's singing is just so effortless and controlled. This song is really not for Sandy in the first place. It's beyond her vocal comfort zone. It's not fair for Sandy to be compared to Regine on a song that fits Regine's vocal range better.
chonaV 3 years ago
well said..
danielnchip 2 years ago
regine:):)greetings from the states...i jus love regine..shes too awesome ..watche her other vids here i must say shes very comparable to celine dion and whitney...same league!!!brilliant..
bleachers11 3 years ago
she's no match to regine!!
angelicumdevil 3 years ago
and who is sandy lam?never heard!...sorry!
angelicumdevil 3 years ago
regine is the best!!!!
angelicumdevil 3 years ago
regine is the best female singer in the world!!
angelicumdevil 3 years ago
wat is 'most diff for a singer is to reach those high note'? as a former choir member, i noe v clearly dat it is v ez to acquire singing technics, but not ez to infuse sincerity into a song.
besides, labelling someone as asia songbird on one person based on a single criteria (can hit high notes) is over simplification of matter.
juz cos A likes B, does not mean dat A can deride other ppl or other ppl's pref. there is NO SUCH THING AS ONLY ONE SINGLE SONGBIRD.
stop living out of a well
zenovyzr 3 years ago 2
well said zenovyzr!!!
miss sandy lam is highly revered within the chinese pop scene, especially in hongkong & china. and in the chinese music scene, i am sorry to inform you that we do not judge good singers based on their high notes. that may be a western interpretation of what a good singer is, but it is definitely not what makes a good singer in the chinese market.
if u filipinos wan to use ur western stds to judge ur singers go ahead. dun judge other singers from other cultures!
fredongcm 3 years ago 3
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marvelouise 3 years ago
sandy lam has a nice and pleasant voice.
juanmikhael 3 years ago
I see where the other comments made by the rest come from. It is true that, especially like what rise17 said, comparing artistes cheapens music and singing.
As much as I don't like Regine's singing, I do think she has shown that Asians are just as good as belting as African-Americans (Whitney) or Canadians (Celine) for that matter.
But I still prefer Sandy's version though, subtle and beautiful, a really authentic Oriental Chinese rendition of the song.
fredongcm 3 years ago 12
@fredongcm iI'd respect ur opinion, but in most cases generally the one that could sing powerfully and with intensity ranging vocals are usually the better singer over the other, vocal quality is the common thing of all singers it matters the most who render the song in a challenging way and in undisputable vocal power. Regine oviously is better technically than Sandy in this song cos Regine used her natural voice in the highest part/climax of the song. misery------------------------
junjorxful 5 months ago
@junjorxful thank u for respecting my opinion. i cant rmbr what i said but i do know that powerful singing is not the ony guage of a better singer. look to the taiwan melody awards (the grammys for chinese pop) for instance. most of the winners of best female singers are not known for their powerful vocals but their ability to stir up emotions. so... i hope u can see why there is no point in disputing who is better.
fredongcm 5 months ago
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@junjorxful thank u for respecting my opinion. i cant rmbr what i said but i do know that powerful singing is not the ony guage of a better singer. look to the taiwan melody awards (the grammys for chinese pop) for instance. most of the winners of best female singers are not known for their powerful vocals but their ability to stir up emotions. so... i hope u can see why there is no point in disputing who is better.
fredongcm 5 months ago
I would like to reiterate that I don't like Regine's voice and her singing style. I just feel that Sheena's song shouldn't have ben belted out the way that Regine has done, which is why I felt so moved by Sandy's rendition. That was the purpose of my first comment.
Secondly, I would like to state that as an Asian, I do not agree with the Regine's title as "Asia's songbird". Asia has many other "songbirds" who can sing fabulously as well, not only Sandy, but Siti Burhaliza, Faye Wong etc.
fredongcm 3 years ago 4
well accept it...Regine is the LEGITIMATE QUEEN of Asia...i have nothing against Ms. Lam but i think she's no match to Regine...but she's good, maybe in Chinese standard of singing...i haven't heard any other Asian singer who sings better than Regine...she can even rival and beat the Vocal Trinity(Mariah, Celine, and Whitney) and any other divas in all continents...yes, there are many other singer who can sing good in Asia, but definitely not better than Regine...
7thHolocaust 2 years ago
Yup u are entitled to ur opinions! I respect that u think Regine is the best.
For me, I think there are a lot of better singers in Asia then Regine. But that's my opinion too. :-) Enough said.
fredongcm 2 years ago
yeah..i'll respect your OPINION...BUT mine is NOT an opinion but a certified FACT!
7thHolocaust 2 years ago
Yup it is a fact created by u.
I don't think there is any body that is authorized to certify a singer as the best. Is there? u can measure the range and say, "oh mariah has the widest vocal range" or the sales i.e. "madonna has sold the most number of singles" but hw do u measure whether a singer is good? just bcos simon cowell say it is good? or the "experts"? winning competitions doesn't mean that u r de best.
i wonder why u don't get it. stop provoking others!
fredongcm 2 years ago
think what you want...Regine is the best...Sandy is good too..that's all
7thHolocaust 2 years ago
Yup think what u want too.
Sandy Lam is the best... Regine is good too... that's all
fredongcm 2 years ago
Sandy sucks! lol
7thHolocaust 2 years ago
Regine sucks! lol
fredongcm 2 years ago
lol
7thHolocaust 2 years ago
lol
fredongcm 2 years ago
lol
7thHolocaust 2 years ago
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Mariah is the best, Sandy & Regine is good too...that's all ;)
givemesam 2 years ago
its a fact and he didnt create that, regine created that fact.if shes not the best, then who do u think is the best? answer me
argelmontemayor 2 years ago
best in what sense? answer me?
facts are created my dear.
fredongcm 2 years ago
And comparing singers like this doesn't show the slightest damn respect for neither the ones you support or is attempting to shoot down.
It all cheapens music and singing!
rise17 3 years ago 3
well said!
danielnchip 3 years ago
Hi fred and universalsongster, I think both of you are entitled to your views of who is the better singer. Everyone has their own preference and there is no need to insult either of the singers. They are both great to their fans and in their own league. They both belong to different markets and hence there is nothing to compare. Why don't we just listen to good music and keep the flames down. =)
issei10 3 years ago 6
well said again!
danielnchip 3 years ago
i think you guys are all being plain childish. Singing is not about competing who screams/belts/shouts/screeches the highest notes. Singing is not about creating verbal wars over who has more powerful lungs/vocals. Singing is not about comparing two different people who sing the same song and judging either one based on that - everyone sings differently with different emotions and styles.
If you can't even get this straight, u guys dun deserve to be fans, much less ppl who appreciates music!
rise17 3 years ago 3
"regine sold 12x platinum in JUST 1 of her album" - which translates to 300,000 albums.
coincidentally, one of sandy's albums (Love, Sandy) sold 13 x platinum - 910,000 copies in Taiwan only.
i think that there is no end if you want to compare btwn both singers. but just want to reiterate my argument thus far: stop crowning regine as Asia's Songbird. Asia has a lot of other talented singers. Not only Sandy Lam, but Faye Wong, Ayumi Hamasaki, Siti Nurhaliza, Zhang Hui Mei etc
fredongcm 3 years ago 3
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twas the media tagged her as the asia's songbird... dont be a bitterass if ur asian divas was never tagged like that...
No other ASIAN would want to sing like regine
-exactly... coz nobody wud want to dare
universalsongster 3 years ago
Nobody would want to dare... for fear of frightening off their fans.
Yup, it was the Filipino media and the English speaking media. I am not being a bitterass. You are a bitterass by not being able to accept other people's comments about your wonderful Regine. And only asses like you will take what the media says for real. Brainless. Asia's songbird?! Yes, outta the thousand and one songbirds around.
fredongcm 3 years ago 3
regine's A.K.A and praises
"the divas of all divas" (not just the asia's songbird)- coco lee
"my favorite next to streisand" -world class maestro le grand
"the only famale vocalist who can rival celine" -phoebo bryson
"the most talented singer on my list" and "i dare if anybody wud want perform next to regine" -brian mcknight
"i never thought that a girl version of the song wud be this good"-david cozz
did u see any regine fanatic
was quoted.. twas them hu said it.
universalsongster 3 years ago
Haha. I would have those comments made by well-known Asian / Mandarin-pop and Canto-pop artistes and producers about Sandy if I go dig through the archives. But what is the point?
The issue is here is you can love Regine all you can. But you have to acknowledge that there are people who don't like her singing style as well. Stop being so fanatic here - it's so annonying.
fredongcm 3 years ago 2
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coz ur sayng that were the one who's climing regine as somebody
universalsongster 3 years ago
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mandarin and cantopop astists and proucers..
is that all? just pure local praises?
yes not all people likes powerhouse vocals.. but majority does.
whitney, mariah, celine, patti, j. hudson etc etc.. they are all powerhouse vocals. they are all well known and successful
did any cantopop or mandarin singer top the international charts?
dont make those languages be the standards. coz majority of the population wud not agree
universalsongster 3 years ago
I don't think there is a need to top the international charts to prove that an artiste is good. Are you insinuating that none of the cantopop or mandarin singers are good then?
fredongcm 3 years ago 2
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isnt it ironic? she sold alot yet she only has 667 videos hir n d most viewed r only 5 figured. lol
u keep on bragging sandy's sales.(if true)
FYI. britney spears has far better sales dan patti labelle. but she's no match w/ patti's vocal capability.
same as sandy 2 regine.
i dont know wat r taiwan's standard in music y she sold dat much, try 2 sell her albums here. even d famous charice pempenco took a month b4 she reached gold.
i dare her 2 get even 1 standing ovation w/ pinoy audience
universalsongster 3 years ago
If you dont know anything about the Canto-pop and Mandarin pop then please do not say so much. And if you have done the tiniest bit of research in Mandarin and Cantopop, you would have realized that Sandy is a highly respected artiste who has reigned for over 20 years in the showbiz.
If Sandy sings mostly in Mandarin and Cantonese, why would she go over to the Philippines when Filipinos speak mainly English and Filipino? They won't understand what she is singing!
fredongcm 3 years ago 4
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now i found out why sandy sold dt much, d only song they understand r cantopop d mandarin. d audience r concentrated
unlike regine. she sings in d language dat majority understands. therefore d audience is less concentrated coz lots of singers sings in english
it doesnt matter if sandy knows hw 2 speak n understand english n filipino, my point is her voice is not amazing dat even our teen amateur singers (w/ originality) can outsing her anytime.
want proof???
watch?v=qacDVyBGgMk
universalsongster 3 years ago
i tink u shldn't be as nasty to compare sandy to your teen amateur singers. u r insulting de chinese people who listen to her or support her.
and u gotta understand wat de chinese people think, feel n look for in their stars. your definition of a good voice n a good singer is diff frm them. their definition of a good voice n singer is also diff frm mine. dun tink u shld keep pushin' ur pt across. regine doesn't rule de world, us americans dun rule de world.
danielnchip 3 years ago 2
y? r u not INSULTING regine and her audience asking can she do wat sandy did?
im so sorry sweety but even sandy's mid registers are nothing against regine.. u shud compare sandy to sitti. not to a powerhouse vocalist. did anybody said regine rulez the world?
universalsongster 3 years ago
i give up. u n fredongcm can continue bickerin' till de cows come home. bwahaha!
god save these two poor souls!
danielnchip 3 years ago 2
i wasnt the one who started it...
im just responding to fred's posts. isnt it obvious
universalsongster 3 years ago
Fine, go ahead and say that Sandy's voice is not amazing. I don't give a damn, because I feel that Regine's voice ain't amazing either. To compare Sandy to your teen amateur singers? I could easily compare your dear Regine to those KTV amatuers who scream at the top of their lungs as well.
The English-speaking market is HUGE. Regine, if she was that fantastic would have sold dozens more! The Cantopop and Mandarin pop market is smaller. Yet Sandy moves more units than Regine!
fredongcm 3 years ago 4
i dont listen to canto pop or madarin any way.....u can call them canto or mandarin superstar.. but theres only one asias song bird.....make ur own title..search this regine the legitimate asias song bird......
babyjamesprieto 3 years ago
"Asia has a lot of other talented singers. Not only Sandy Lam, but Faye Wong, Ayumi Hamasaki, Siti Nurhaliza, Zhang Hui Mei etc"
i agree...Asians are really talented BUT, i never anyone who sings better than Regine...
"stop crowning regine as Asia's Songbird"
yeah...stop crowning her as Asia's Songbird because that title was already given to her when she won the Asia-Pacific Singing Competition beating ALL the greatest signers all over Asia and Pacific...
7thHolocaust 2 years ago
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no oter ASIAN can sing like regine
universalsongster 3 years ago
CORRECTION: No other ASIAN would want to sing like regine.
Stop thinking that your Regine owns the world, or the whole of Asia for that matter. My Sandy is the one who sounded like Sheena Easton? Firstly she is not my Sandy - I am just irritated that people like you keep putting another singer down, claiming that Regine's version is so much better, more powerful etc. Secondly I would take that as a compliment, to sound like Sheena Easton herself. Thanks.
fredongcm 3 years ago 2
sounding like somebody else is called immitation/impersonation
universalsongster 3 years ago
Sounding like somebody when singing that somebody's song is called respect for the original singer. By saying that Sandy doesn't have her own style just because she sings the song in the way Sheena Easton did it is just ridiculous. If it were a Whitney song they were covering, and Regine belts it the way she does, wouldn't that be impersonation as well?
fredongcm 3 years ago 4
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y wud it be an impersonation if she's sounding as her own self. i dare you 2 give me links wen regine sang d exact arrangement with the same sound of d original version.
unlike sandy who's morphing into somebody else wen singin somebody else's songs.
regine never sing a song with the same interpretation.
everyone does covers
mariah-open arms
whitney-greatest love of all
celine-all by myself
*they didnt sounded lyk d original. does that mean they are disrespectful? duh
universalsongster 3 years ago
i've been followin' tis thread and I'd like to say smthg in fairness.
i tink fredongcm shldn't have been so harsh on his comments towards Regine. But universalsongster shldn't have started tis whole debate abt who is better. both r respectable artistes, i believe - i hv a hk colleague & he told me dat sandy is one of de most enduring divas in hk & many chinese ard de world who listens to chinese music knows her. regine on de other hand, frm wat i see, also reigns supreme in philippines.
danielnchip 3 years ago 5
all de talk abt who is better is bullshit. compare artistes who r similar, like perhaps mariah n whitney, or britney n christina, or madonna n kylie, or keyshia n mary, or even patti n aretha n diana. but dun compare a chinese singer n a filipino-n-english singer! they sing to diff audiences, n hv obviously diff styles. there will be no end to de comparison - bcos there aint s'posed to b comparisons in de first place, btwn them!
danielnchip 3 years ago 3
i totally understand you @daniel
just like any FAN wud do, i wud defend my idol wen a basher have bad comment on her/him.
im not the one who started it.
universalsongster 3 years ago
I have never said singers who do not sound like the original version are disrespectful. Anyway your argument that Sandy is morphing into the other original singer, Sheena Easton, when she sings is interesting because it probably means that she is good bcos she can sing it as well as the original.
Whatever it is, interpretation is up to the artiste. If Sandy's interpretation results in her sounding like the original so be it. I don't see why you should pick on that as a lack of style.
fredongcm 3 years ago 2
i like sandy too but singing a song with feelings can do by a dozen of singer..the most difficult for a singer is to reach those high note...even me can sing like sandy...
babyjamesprieto 3 years ago
Regine is onli popular in Philippines. Yawnz.
Sandy on the other hand is well-received not only in Hong Kong, but Taiwan, China, Malaysia, Singapore and Japan. Her best-selling album moved over 4 million units in 1995 in Asia. Can Regine beat that?
fredongcm 3 years ago
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universalsongster 3 years ago
Let me correct you. Regine sold 12 x platinum in the Philippines.
Stop being fanatic. Your view is obviously an American-centric view. So what if she is well-known in the US? She sings English songs. Her singing style is obviously an emulation of Whitney Houston & Mariah Carey. That's what makes her popular.
Stop calling Regine a diva in Asia. Please. Philippines does not equate to Asia. Go and survey how many Koreans or Japanese or Thais or Indians like Regine. Go!
fredongcm 3 years ago 5
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what are you talking about?
yes, regine sold 12x platinum in JUST 1 of her album.
"what if she's well-known in the US"
-u r the 1 hu told me she's only known in d philippines. duh!
"Her style is obviously an emulation of Whitney & Mariah"
-r u crazy? u can never hear whitney and mariah wen regine sings their songs. meaning that she has her own style, ur sandy is d one who sounded lyk sheena easton wen she sang in this video. no style.
NOBODY SINGS LYK REGINE THATS Y SHES D DIVA
universalsongster 3 years ago
u are the one who said that she is "collaborated n praised by hollywood performers", "sang GOD BLESS AMERICA in the US LUNAR PARADE" and was "1st pinoy to perform in carnegie hall". so weren't you implying that she is well known in the US? i merely just took your point without bothering to refute it. i will still tell u she is well-known in the Philippines, in MY opinion.
Haha! I am crazy? Go and do a survey and see how many Americans feel that she copies Whitney and Mariah.
fredongcm 3 years ago 5
i was pionting that she not known only in the philippines coz that wat u said... duh
universalsongster 3 years ago
Oh yes and I was responding to what you said about her achievements in the US. If you remember I asked "so what if she is well known in the US".
fredongcm 3 years ago
and do you remember u said..?
regine is only known in the philippines
universalsongster 3 years ago
Of COurse! FYI.... RegiNe sold 5 millioN copies on her ASIA release of the album titled "LISTEN WITHOUT PREJUDICE" ... search it if you want............
marxx1104 3 years ago
oh yeah? hw mani copies did u buy? half a million?
fredongcm 3 years ago
"Sandy on the other hand is well-received not only in Hong Kong, but Taiwan, China, Malaysia, Singapore and Japan. Her best-selling album moved over 4 million units in 1995 in Asia. Can Regine beat that?"
yes! Regine is also known all over Asia
she has sold 3 MULTI-PLATINUM Asian albums all over Asia also 2 of her albums(not Asian album) that just happened to be released in some Asian countries reached MULTI-PLATINUM status
her song "In Love w/ You" w/ jacky Cheung became #1 in the ETIRE ASIA
7thHolocaust 2 years ago
Regine flaunts her vocals. Flaunting, I repeat, not singing. I dun feel anything but disgust when I listen to her.
Singing is about the emotions, about the expression. Not about who hits higher notes, who has the most powerful vocals etc.
Sandy wins hand-down. There is simply no competition.
fredongcm 3 years ago 2
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SANDY is bland!!! i repeat BLAND!!!!
boring
universalsongster 3 years ago
If you feel that screaming at the top of her pitchy voice is good, then fine. Regine wins.
If you think Sandy is bland, then you will be disagreeing with the Hong Kong masses who have listened to her music for almost 20 years and are still loving it. You will be disagreeing with all the Chinese audiences who have bought her albums and attended her concerts over the past 20 years. And these Chinese audiences come from not only China but Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore, Malaysia and even US.
fredongcm 3 years ago 4
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almost 20 yrs?
regine has been "screaming" for more than 20+ years..
how come she has been consistently on top wen she started? duh
universalsongster 3 years ago
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regine undeniably over that sandy
n1o2s3y4a5j 3 years ago
As a Sandy fans, I find Regine's version is beautiful and powerful in her own way. I must agree Regine has a powerful voice. But please not bring Sandy down just because she doesn't have the same vocal range. They are unique in their own ways! Sandy has worked really hard to get to where she is now by knowing her weakness. Peace & Love...
jjliuliu 3 years ago 5
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sandy is struggling on high notes' ...misery...
cutemensroom 3 years ago
sandy win..
egg1080 3 years ago 3
Regine's take on the high part is called "belting" not shouting. Study music so u Morons will know that belting requires the inclusion of "vibrato." Plain shouting is w/out it.Sandy's voice is soothing but she definitely lacks lung power.The bridge part should be belted out using natural voice not w/ "falsetto!" One more thing,Sandy needs to work on her diction for her to deliver english songs beautifully.
mikelyee 3 years ago
sorry, but falsetto only applies to male voices. Female voices are divided into registers i.e. chest and head voices...
cdnguy2b 3 years ago
Regine's take on the high part is called "belting" not shouting. Study music so u Morons will know that belting requires the inclusion of "vibrato." Plain shouting is w/out it.Sandy's voice is soothing but she definitely lacks lung power.The bridge part should be belted out using natural voice not w/ "falcetto!" One more thing,Sandy needs to work on her diction for her to deliver english songs beautifully.
mikelyee 3 years ago
two different ways to express their feeling, west vs. east
magyuan 3 years ago 4
Not actually... They are both from the east...
arasheecflorence 3 years ago
Well when it comes to a song like this, shouting or powerful doesnt mean its good. Sandy's version is so emtional and tender and it touches your heart.
hotricky1976 3 years ago 6
Regine is a copycat. Her voice is powerful but she is just a singer, not a good artiste. And one more thing... she shouts a lot of the song, less of sing it.
diarytzy 3 years ago
regine just sung us a song. sandy told us a very touching tale. thats the different.
tutandd 3 years ago 4
ofcouse regine velasquez version for me is the best.. very powerful and effortless to hit the high note compare to other one..
rianrey17 3 years ago
Two different styles. An anthem versus a conversation. Regine paints with broader strokes and Sandy with a more subtle style in terms of modulation of tone and vibrato. The difference in approach styles most clearly seen in last phrase. Love them both!
cdnguy2b 3 years ago 8
Of course, REGINE VELASQUEZ. We have to face it; she's the BEST. She even outperformed Sheena Easton's original version. (Sorry Sheena fans! Just an opinion.). x
agentbfly 3 years ago
regine..very powerful voice..
shgne6 3 years ago
Wow.. Regine sings the high notes effortless.. She's in a different class!!!
ithons26 3 years ago
Regine hands down
yetkl2 3 years ago
still filipinos are the best!
bjrc 3 years ago
sandy is the best
egg1080 3 years ago 4
Totally agree, Sandy is the lengend, she also sings Cantonese, Mandarin, Taiwanese & Japanese songs as well. She was also invited by Andrew Lloyd Weber to perfom his songs during his concert in China. Again, she can sings those songs in a beautiful way differently. If powerful singing style is the only option, I would rather go for Whitney Houston, why Regine?
antics1971 3 years ago 4
this a video comparing regine and sandy on a song "almost over you" whitney has nothing to do with this video... regine has alot of vocal power unlike sandy
cutemensroom 3 years ago
sorry to say this but can sandy sing the song of legrand? i doubt it even legrand himself rated regine as number 2 next to barbara streisand..regine is the best in whole of ASIA
cutemensroom 3 years ago