Just think of John Williams, he has taken many elements from Tchaikovsky, sometimes you can hear a piece of his music and saying "My, this is "The Nutcracker" and nobody would say John Williams lacks of originality, because he has created a lot of masterpieces of movie music like "Superman" or "Jaws"!! It's just part of the elaboration of music, you start from something to get beyond that!! Danny Elfman wrote an incredible soundtrack for "Batman"!!!
I don't think we can talk about copying, because it's a clear inspiration for the beginning of the theme, but the rest is definitely different! As a musician I can say that sometimes you take a "piece of music" from someone else just to start and then go over with your idea, and this what Danny did. It started similar, but then it was something completely different!
FM DJ goofs one night & this was intro’d as title cut from "Day the Earth Stood Still" (DTESS). I was amazed a H’wood composer of any caliber in 1951 would’ve created such nuanced music for a space pic. I pictured the trumpets accompanying a fade-in on majestic cloudscapes filmed from a plane. As woodwinds begin, camera tilts up and we dissolve to starscapes. As rippling harps begin, spaceship emerges from the depths of space heading for Earth. -NOT! But the piece will always remind me of DTESS.
@aprobstayahoo And speaking of nuanced for 1951, listen to the sound of the flying saucer as it approaches Washington, there's a slight musical note mixed in with the engine sounds; very subtle, and very scary.
FM DJ goofs one night & this was intro’d as title cut from "Day the Earth Stood Still" (DTESS). I was amazed a H’wood composer of any caliber in 1951 would’ve created such nuanced music for a space pic. I pictured the trumpets accompanying fade-in on majestic cloudscapes filmed from a plane. As woodwinds begin, camera tilts up and we dissolve to starscapes. As rippling harps begin, spaceship emerges from the depths of space heading for Earth. -NOT! But the piece will always remind me of DTESS.
Elfman should pay up all the money he's made from this particular theme to Bernard Herrmann for ripping off Herrmann's 1959 Journey to the Centre score track "Mountain Top/Sunrise ". Blatant rip off!! Can't believe that the definitive Batman theme was actually made in the 50s!!
Much like how John Williams just ripped off Gustav Holst for Star Wars!
@mugabesunny So So True! Take a listen to the classic Richard Strauss' composition called, "Death and Transfiguration". You will hear a note for note (with the same orchestration mine you) of the "Superman" love theme ,by John Williams. Strauss wrote his piece in the 1800's. Speaking of Gustav Holst, "The Planets". let's not leave Hans Zimmer out of the picture. he ripped off Holst's planets when he scored the 'battle' scene in "Gladiator". It goes on and on and on..........
Good example. Actually, Bernard himself also used his 'Psycho' theme in 'The 3 Worlds of Gulliver' score. You can hear in the track called The Tightrope, it's rather delicate and cheerful rearrangement.
how does this kind of thing work normally> it is pretty blatant that batman theme soudns JUST like this one, right? isnt that plagiarism? or can uget away with it? how does that work
I wonder myself. Elfman often mentioned Bernard Herrmann as one of his biggest inspirations in film music, always made it clear. The score for 'Mars Attacks!' is direct homage to Herrmann's 'The Day The Earth Stood Still' (which is stated as the begining of Elfman's love for film music). Hence him scoring the infamous 'Psycho' remake too. In 'Mars Attacks!' we have just the "technique" copied though. But since Elfman never hid such matters maybe in the case of 'Batman' it saves him in a way.
i read an interview where elfman explained how he came up with the main batman theme. he was on a plane and just thought of the main melody and scrambled to get his tape recorder to hum the melody into it. so it sounds like it's doubtful it came as any sort of direct and conscious homage to this piece but rather either a coincidence or an unconscious lift.
I swear to god,this is strange,i was just looking for this just lastnight,,im so glad you put it on here,its very hard to find ..thank you very much.....
Just think of John Williams, he has taken many elements from Tchaikovsky, sometimes you can hear a piece of his music and saying "My, this is "The Nutcracker" and nobody would say John Williams lacks of originality, because he has created a lot of masterpieces of movie music like "Superman" or "Jaws"!! It's just part of the elaboration of music, you start from something to get beyond that!! Danny Elfman wrote an incredible soundtrack for "Batman"!!!
funzi159 4 weeks ago
I don't think we can talk about copying, because it's a clear inspiration for the beginning of the theme, but the rest is definitely different! As a musician I can say that sometimes you take a "piece of music" from someone else just to start and then go over with your idea, and this what Danny did. It started similar, but then it was something completely different!
funzi159 4 weeks ago
"Here's to the Prof of Geology,
Master of all natural history,
Rare boy he,
And rare boys we,
To know such a big curiosity!"
Cinema320 5 months ago
FM DJ goofs one night & this was intro’d as title cut from "Day the Earth Stood Still" (DTESS). I was amazed a H’wood composer of any caliber in 1951 would’ve created such nuanced music for a space pic. I pictured the trumpets accompanying a fade-in on majestic cloudscapes filmed from a plane. As woodwinds begin, camera tilts up and we dissolve to starscapes. As rippling harps begin, spaceship emerges from the depths of space heading for Earth. -NOT! But the piece will always remind me of DTESS.
aprobstayahoo 7 months ago
@aprobstayahoo And speaking of nuanced for 1951, listen to the sound of the flying saucer as it approaches Washington, there's a slight musical note mixed in with the engine sounds; very subtle, and very scary.
kidtexaus1 1 week ago
FM DJ goofs one night & this was intro’d as title cut from "Day the Earth Stood Still" (DTESS). I was amazed a H’wood composer of any caliber in 1951 would’ve created such nuanced music for a space pic. I pictured the trumpets accompanying fade-in on majestic cloudscapes filmed from a plane. As woodwinds begin, camera tilts up and we dissolve to starscapes. As rippling harps begin, spaceship emerges from the depths of space heading for Earth. -NOT! But the piece will always remind me of DTESS.
aprobstayahoo 7 months ago
Every potential virtuoso derives his cues from former masters......
navet1953 9 months ago 4
This is the Batman theme. Awesome!!!
elninoheroe 1 year ago
Elfman should pay up all the money he's made from this particular theme to Bernard Herrmann for ripping off Herrmann's 1959 Journey to the Centre score track "Mountain Top/Sunrise ". Blatant rip off!! Can't believe that the definitive Batman theme was actually made in the 50s!!
Much like how John Williams just ripped off Gustav Holst for Star Wars!
mugabesunny 1 year ago
@mugabesunny So So True! Take a listen to the classic Richard Strauss' composition called, "Death and Transfiguration". You will hear a note for note (with the same orchestration mine you) of the "Superman" love theme ,by John Williams. Strauss wrote his piece in the 1800's. Speaking of Gustav Holst, "The Planets". let's not leave Hans Zimmer out of the picture. he ripped off Holst's planets when he scored the 'battle' scene in "Gladiator". It goes on and on and on..........
peppersax 1 year ago
@mugabesunny Hermann died in 1975. Would be difficult to pay him now
wdgarraway 7 months ago
Comment removed
hellokittymeow100 1 year ago
HAHAHA so true.
requiemaeternam7 2 years ago
A classic!
am2boni 2 years ago
Hahahaha! Nice.
enemyofbohemia 2 years ago
Just one example of why Bernard Herrmann was the greatest film score artist of all time...
svaz11 2 years ago 3
This was a long movie - over 2 hours - and Herrmann filled it with one of his best scores.
alexalex3131 2 years ago
Wanna hear a chilling rendition of this piece? search youtue for "Utopia overture communion with the sun".
rdanlord 2 years ago
no if u want a blatant rip-off, listen to the score from Re-Animator. And then tell me what you think/
2112Halloween 2 years ago
Good example. Actually, Bernard himself also used his 'Psycho' theme in 'The 3 Worlds of Gulliver' score. You can hear in the track called The Tightrope, it's rather delicate and cheerful rearrangement.
fayansiarz 2 years ago
how does this kind of thing work normally> it is pretty blatant that batman theme soudns JUST like this one, right? isnt that plagiarism? or can uget away with it? how does that work
queenmcsleaze 2 years ago
I wonder myself. Elfman often mentioned Bernard Herrmann as one of his biggest inspirations in film music, always made it clear. The score for 'Mars Attacks!' is direct homage to Herrmann's 'The Day The Earth Stood Still' (which is stated as the begining of Elfman's love for film music). Hence him scoring the infamous 'Psycho' remake too. In 'Mars Attacks!' we have just the "technique" copied though. But since Elfman never hid such matters maybe in the case of 'Batman' it saves him in a way.
fayansiarz 2 years ago
i read an interview where elfman explained how he came up with the main batman theme. he was on a plane and just thought of the main melody and scrambled to get his tape recorder to hum the melody into it. so it sounds like it's doubtful it came as any sort of direct and conscious homage to this piece but rather either a coincidence or an unconscious lift.
requiemaeternam7 2 years ago
"The key to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources" - Albert Einstein.
whatshendrix 2 years ago 2
Oh, my God! I heard the "Batman" theme! That's so fucking cool!
spieljawsfan 2 years ago
batman theme ?
dylanhero3 2 years ago
A GREAT BERNARD HERRMANN GREAT SCORE
lebow1 2 years ago
Utopia did a great Prog Rock cover in their album RA
clarepiper 2 years ago
I swear to god,this is strange,i was just looking for this just lastnight,,im so glad you put it on here,its very hard to find ..thank you very much.....
dragonzep 2 years ago