Green horse rope desensitize natural training

[buddyforu100]

This Vidoe should be watched from some english horse trainers to open their minds

[horsepaintings]

I agree-- and this horse will be ridden English as well. Currently he is carriage driven!

[SoberDevotion]

@buddyforu100 Well that's a little stereotypical . I am an english rider and I use these sorts of methods to train my horse , as well as most of the trainers at my barn .

[LaRanaTJ]

@buddyforu100 I am English and an English rider.  All my horses are trained by me using natural methods, we ride barefoot and bitless. My horses live in herds. I could give you an infinite list of English riders that use natural desensitising methods and would love to know by what authority you speak to make such a rude, prejudiced and blanket comment.

[tcb4artists]

Thanks for the vid, I have just got a largley unhandled 5yr old pure arab stallion. Cut him last week and have been working solid with him every afternoon. I am trying to quieten him down before sending him to the breaker. he is extremely cooperative and resposive, and doing so well. My problem is that he has only ever been in steel yards for all of his life, and how do i introduce regualar wire fencing to him? I really don't want him to go through one and get hurt. Any ideas?

[horsepaintings]

If it's electric wire, should not be hard. If it is barbed wire, I have no experience with that & would be afraid to use it. Make it extra visible until he learns where it is, by tying strips of surveyor's tape on it every 6 feet or so, or cloth strips. Lead him around the whole fence a few times, then supervise closely until he touches it. Once zapped a time or 2 by an electric wire, he will respect it & steer clear of it. I think if it's strung wire not electric, make it extra visible somehow.

[georgiabates]

yeah im sure their are some people who can use them correctly but i wouldnt recommend them unless the foundations of training the horse to relax is done very well first.

i dont know what the breaker did, he wasnt trying to hurt her but she still has scars around her back fetlocks from the hobbles so it wasnt good. i had a natural trainer work with her this year and he thought her and me alot but she is still unsure around her back end with ropes and stuff :(

[horsepaintings]

You say "back" fetlocks?? I have only ever seen hobbles on the horse's front teet...

[georgiabates]

yeah he hobbled her back legs to stop her from kicking him....understand why i don't like the idea of them when thats the only experience i've had with them? she kicked so much that she broke his hobbles and he had to get some specially made so she couldn't brake them....she was litterally double brarelling near his head when he was sacking her out with a chaff bag..i have it on video.. but not the hobble stuff i didnt see that.

[horsepaintings]

Sorry for your horse, that's sad. I'm sure glad you moved to a natural and presumably more gentle trainer. And it always takes more time to UNDO a lousy experience than it does to be more cautious and patient in the first place. Force just does not work, and aggressive treatment makes the horse suspicious and afraid for a long time afterwards.

[georgiabates]

yeah definitely. that was when she was first broken and re broken after being in a paddock for 2 years, and then i rode her for the lady who owned her so i had no control over her breaking, but then i bought her so now i own her and can treat her properly. but she is still not 100% with ropes near her back end and has major floating issues that im working through slowly with the methods my natural trainer showed us, just needs lots of practice :)

[georgiabates]

very good, but personally i wouldnt stand directly in front of the horse..stand off to the side for safety. this horse looks pretty quite and trustworthy but for people who watch this and try it i think they should know to stand to the side not directly in front :) just in case the horse shoots forward over the top of you.

in terms of hobbles...i say hobbles= teach horse to freeze in fear, get defensive and then become dangerous...they cant move so they lock up then kick...happened to my mare

[georgiabates]

(not from my training though, when she was broken in by a racehorse and jumper trainer. )

[horsepaintings]

I don't know how to train hobbles, but I know it can be done successfully and without violent reactions. I have watched hobbled horses standing around in high-activity areas with other horses going by, and they are calm and relaxed. It's all in the training. I do know, with my own mare, that tying her when she's nervous causes her to relax and quiet down-- that was a result of her training. Once that mind set is established properly, the restraint serves as a calming influence.

[sksweat]

WHAT IS HOBBLE TRANING

[horsepaintings]

hobbles are straps which fasten the horse's front legs together at the ankles so they can't walk around. THey are trained to stand with hobbles on as an alternative to tying them. You have to know what you're doing to train them.

[ropefast]

Nice, what do you do with his hind legs?

[horsepaintings]

you would do the same thing, the concept is just to get him to give to the pressure and not to pull back or freak out or fight against it. You can probably get him to take a step forward with the hind leg. It also helps with foals to teach them to lift their hind leg, wrap one loop below the fetlock if needed then pressure upwards on the rope. A good way to start hoof-trim training while being out of harm's way, prepping him for lifting his foot to hand pressure.

[CowsAndCrows]

does this work in the same way as Hobble training?

[horsepaintings]

nothing like hobble training, but a good prelim training for hobbling. This just teaches him to give to pressure against his legs, rather than to fight or struggle against it. Much safer for him in event of accidental entanglement in rope or wire, catching his leg in reins or leadrope, etc. Mostly Teaches them to stop and think instead of react and panic.

[filly4billy2002]

Kind of struggled with the audio, but got the idea.

Yes, this is excellent desensitizing. I do this with all my colts. Can really REALLY help in a bad situation if they learn to not panic and give to the 'feel' of the rope.

5 STARS!

[horsepaintings]

Thank you! No training is more valuable.

[krussedulltull]

What is the point in this training?

[horsepaintings]

De-sensitizing makes horse unafraid & less reactive to ropes or anything getting caught on his legs. Someday when he gets tangled up in a rope or rein or wire, he will be much less likely to panic, struggle against it & hurt himself, because he has been taught early in life to "yield" to such pressure. See my reply to joescolors...

[joescolors]

this is great training I teach all my colts to do this even the race bred TBs I train. great video keep them coming.

[horsepaintings]

This 2 yr.old's arabian mom was trained by this same woman 16 years ago, we have had her ever since. Once I was riding her when a german shepherd broke loose from a girl, ran at the horses barking, and wrapped its retractable leash around the mare's hind leg. I was able to get off her and undo the dog without her freaking out, due to this type of solid training!