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  • capo oded fehr

  • What about stopping violence against men, women, and children? Why just women?

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  • lol according to some web site I look like this guy...

  • So now Faris al Farik is pro-women?

  • Damn, he's sexy :D

  • Eeeeeeeekk!!! XD it's him!! He's the guy from eps of NCIS AND THAT NEWISH CIA SHOW ON USA CHNNEL.! I love him hahah.

  • thumbs up if you wana have oded fehr's babies...:D

  • @surenity24 LMFAO! I'm in! LOL!

  • @NikolisCrazy no.. LET'S START VIOLENCE WITH WOMEN, together we can do anything, everyone should be learning martial arts, don't cling to life enjoy it by risking it!!!

  • well said

  • What did he say?

  • I love this man even more now!

  • @iturralde74 After seeing this, me too! ;) LOVE Oded <3

  • If you don´t like your woman, set her free, as she doe nbt have to put up with you as well.

  • @EDDBRANCH

    You're a retard.

    That is what democracy breeds for and is dependent on.

  • @SeanMacCloud nay, yer d retard and a waste of my precious time.

  • Continuation. She died when I was 9. I chose to live my life quite the opposite and do not dwell on anything but do use it as a testimony to help as many abused as I can. You are absolutely right Oded, SPEAK, TELL, MAKE AWARENESS...I had an illness last year and wasn't supposed to live, but I did. It has made me work even harder to touch as many people as I can. Thank you for your message. I think you're a special man. I hope to meet you some day! Thanks for standing up! Special regards!

  • Oded..I hope you read these. I'll probably have to type 2 responses to make my point, but I was adopted at birth and my father died when I was 6 mo old and was left with a mother who did not want me at all. I was mentally and physically abused by her. At the tender age of 6, twice my adoped mother packed a suitcase and told me to hit the sidewalk and do not look back. She would send my sister (who she did want) after me and told me that I could come home now and much more..see continuation.

  • Okay, i love this man even more now. Drop-dead gorgeous. Smart as a whip. And a heart of gold to boot. I think i'm in love ^_^

  • awwww We love you Oded

  • Love your women and they will love you back, trust me!!

  • Fehr's rule! I'm a Fehr too!:)

  • witchfynde. I never said women WERE a minority - I said that had been considered a minority. And unfortunate beam, I never said it was okay or not an issue, My point is merely that the quoted figure was misleading. no more, no less. And yes, some women are as violent as some men. I merely reiterate the point that education - aka the above clip - is a good way to redress the problem.

    coraclewoman

  • witchfynde. I never said women WERE a minority - I said that had been considered a minority. And unfortunate beam, I never said it was okay or not an issue, My point is merely that the quoted figure was misleading. no more, no less. And yes, some women are as violent as some men. I merely reiterate the point that education - aka the above clip - is a good way to redress the problem.

    coraclewoman

  • I never agree with violence being committed against women. But some speakers have a point. some men are actually being abused by women too. Although they're not that open, because they would be perceived as wussies, or weaklings. But I do believe that violence against men exists, although it's not that rampant as its counterpart. I hope they can do something about that too.

  • @VirgoAndromeda You're right.it exist and it's a real problem too.......but it doesn't appear on the news very often and people sometimes don't realize about that fact.

  • @VirgoAndromeda why don´t they leave them? There are millions of women waiting to be loved and trust me, they will not abuse men because don´t seek to be abused in a relationship. It takes two for abuse to exist, right?

  • @EDDBRANCH yeah, i agree with you. there is a circle of abuse. And it needs two people. maybe sometimes people don't find the strength to do it. others are physically threatened. it's even more complicated if there are kids involved. what most women do is endure it, because they keep thinking that the kids will need a complete family, "it'll hurt the kids", all that jazz. it's much more complicated if there are children involved. It's sad and very discouraging. but it's very much real.

  • @VirgoAndromeda Children, of course needs the usual structure of father and mother for their development, but the said structure fails to exist, a new one needs to be effected and that, of course does not need to be one made of father and mother, as either one are capable of takeing charge, provided that there´s love and strenght of will. I´ll keep doing what´s possible to fight abuse against women because I can´t belive that a man who really likes women wants to hurt them. Kisses.

  • @VirgoAndromeda

    Actually liberal studies* say females start as many fights as men in their relationships. (*There are no other kinds of studies but liberal ones.)

    And females hit children more and more often than men.

    And this doesn't in touch upon female emotional abuse --of both genders-- which is legion and is and has been the key catalyst for everything always.

    ...The peculiar Anglo male and his need to pedestal-ize females. Females exploits that. As Jewish activists do...

  • @SeanMacCloud I agree with you that there many academic studies that show women are as, sometimes more, abusive in relationships, and women are more likley to physically abuse their children. People really find all this hard to beleive, to them it's counterintuitive, even though stats, and a number of surveys and studies reveal it to be true. But please don't tell me you have some beef with Jews and are anti-semitic. That's not cool.

  • @VirgoAndromeda how can you say violence against men is not as rampant? Sorry, but to me that just sounds wildly out of touch with reality! Whether it's women doing it or men doing it to each other, men receive at least as much violence on them in a lifetime if not more than any woman. I'm not exactly sure what it's like in muslim countries, but I know that's what it's like in the West.

  • there is no doubt that women have been considered a minority group for a long period of history, and that this is in part connected to the three Abramic religions. The quote of 98p.c in the mideast wars is misleading, because they are killed mostly by other men. Women portrayed in music vids as killers are usually also portrayed as sexy, airbrushed etc. True to life? No. I 'm not condoning violent women - or men either. Education is key, which is what the above vid is about.

    coraclewoman

  • @coracleman

    Unless you are talking about modern China, women have NEVER been a minority.

  • "The quote of 98p.c in the mideast wars is misleading, because they are killed mostly by other men."

    And what's your point? Does that suddenly make it ok and not an issue? They did volunteer to go there, but the women that go there are protected from entering frontline combat (that should be a hint to you of just how prone we are to PROTECT women). But like I said before, dozens of academic studies have shown women to be just as violent if not more than men in intimate relationships.

  • God created women for us to respect and lve them, not for us to mistreat them. If you hate violence against women, you´re definitely in my league!!!!!!

  • @EDDBRANCH

    Did your mother teach you that, my mother did too. All my life i have respected women even when they were pointing middle fingers and abusing me. The girlfriends I had were cheating on me. But the day i was tired showing respect and got more Narcissistic and honesty with myself i realized that women are just like you and me, they don't deserve more because they are women, and many women are just bitches, and those are the type of women no one should respect. just saying my opinion.

  • @Ironandtheshizzelz you don´t have to put up with a woman who don´t respesct you, not at all, and in that case all you have to do is leave her. There are a lot of decent women seeking true love, so go for them! I´ve been through situations when I nearly slapped a woman, but I left her instead. Later on, she admited she was wrong .....

    You´re intitled to your opinion, though.

  • @EDDBRANCH

    fair enough.

  • @Ironandtheshizzelz  yeah, you´ll live better this way.

  • @SeanMacCloud your league is the retard association. Didn´t you have a mother? Idiots like you will probably wind up alone sitting in your own piss and shit. Besides, you´re a bloody sodomite bugger. Find your man and leave women alone!!!!!!!!

    U R D RETARD HERE, MIND YOU!!!!!

  • @EDDBRANCH

    I agree, and vise verse , I mean towards men also!

  • @EDDBRANCH what are u gay or something

  • Funny. Just this morning I see a two music videos which featured men getting killed by women. Dozens of academic studies show that women are often as violent if not more so agaisnt their male partners, men are three quarters of all violent assault victims, men are 98 percent of the deaths in the mid east wars even tho women are almost 20% of the military.

    Given this info, how about stopping vioence against everyone? I mean this is a democrazy right? Why ignore an whole group of people?

  • @unfortunatebeam

    Bingo---it seems no one cares about men---we are just statistics.

  • Demons exist if you: 1. have schizophrenia 2. the mental capacity of a scared 5 year old.

  • This is a great, straight-up, nonconfronting (offending male ego, putting them on the defensive) word. Excellent. It makes me love you, man!

  • @Emilydogcat "I can see the demons attached to them, pulling them and twisting them like puppets."

    I rest my case.

    -----------------------------

    Testing before voting.

  • Demons do exist. Just because you haven't seen one or been in contact with one, doesn't mean they don't exist. I suppose a tree doesn't exist in the forest if you don't see it personally.

    Demons do exist and many people are demonically influenced and even possessed. But this isn't polite society talk, sorry for hurting your sensitive ears.

  • I know from my own experience...my dad had 3 girls with my mom and another girl with his lover (eventually my step-mother).

    He made us feel that we were of no value and that being female made us worthless...he kicked us, hit us, made us fight each other for his amusement....it was horrible..........when my little sister was born he got very angry....when she was a little baby just learning to walk, he called her over to him and then kicked her in the stomach and took her picture as she cried.

  • You are nuts!

  • I guess it takes one to know one :)

  • Been a while and i missed it...what?

  • OMG now I remember. Get over it.

  • was he some kind of sadistic idiot? He´ll burn in hell. He must have gone through that when he was a child....

  • @EDDBRANCH "He must have gone through that when he was a child...."

    Abuse from a wimmin?

    Number two "emilydogcat" is probably lying --like most females do.

  • I don´t think there are lies the ´cause unfortunately abuse against women is a very common place situation. I hate these fucking cowards who abuse them, probably, a bunch of sodomites!!!!

  • abuse against women a very common place situation? where the hell do you even get that idea? Really, where's your proof of that, cause it sounds kinda like you're loaded with shit, no disrespect.

  • Trust me, I´m talking about facts, whether you want to accept them or not. In Islamic faith, for example, women goes through unbelievabla suffering....

  • I agree the fundamentalist Islam (the sharia laws you mean, right?) is certainly not a friend to women. I mean it's not a friend to anyone really (except the small minority of power elites it serves), but esp women.

    But you should consider that as men in those fundy Islamist countires are trained to be chattle for war as early as age 5, women aren't the only ones that face incredible violence.

  • Yeah, you´re right, I know about that but the focus here is violence against women. In tribalism is the same thing, women are treated like anything bad, how disgusting. If these bloody animals don´t like women, why don´t they leave them alone so they can have a chance to find someone who will love them and respect them the way they deserve?

  • @unfortunatebeam I know, but if you compare the ammount of times women all over the world, chiefly in the islamic, suffer violence to the ammount of times men do, then you´ll finally see my point. I´ve lived in neighbourhoods where I saw women being beaten by traffic lords and couldn´t do a thing to help them. As a general yardstick, men most of the times are able to fight back and women are not, as they were made for love.

  • @EDDBRANCH The only way I can make sense of what you said is that violence happens to men so much and so often that people just become blind to it and treat it as normal. The reason why it's so painfully obvious when it happens to women is precisely because its a lot less "normal". Don't you ever notice when a traffic lord beats up a man? Just cuz theyre men dont mean they can defend themselves. Both women and men should learn to though.

  • @unfortunatebeam You´re probably right, buta like I said, I can only talk about what I´ve already seen, I´m not making it up. I´ve seen policemen killing a few traffickers, but I don´t think this should be an issue here. I´m only taling about the usual victims, women. Every decent person should learn self defense. I´m a martial art instructor.

  • @EDDBRANCH alright well can you show me any hard evidence that women in Muslim societies are the usual victims of crime as you say? I'm sorry but I can't just use your words and observations as facts. Maybe you are right, but if you could refer me to something that is UNBIASED that shows muslim women receive more violence, it would be great.

  • @unfortunatebeam Sorry, mate, but I´m afraid you need to educate yourself in this matters. Well, for starters, take a look at the way women are treated in "countries" like iran, iraque,pakistan, to mention a few. I´m not being biased, just saying what I actually feel. The world knows about the way women are treated in islam. The most recent example I can offer you is the case of that woman who still run the risk of being hanged because she gave herself to another man....

  • so are you telling me then that men aren't hanged in those countries for committing adultry? Are you saying that only women are hanged?

    And I do tend to educate myself. I am actually very interested in male/female relations and the history of them in the places you mention, but I just thought you might be able to conveniently provide something at hand.

    and just so you know, saying what you feel is practically the definition of being biased.

  • @unfortunatebeam no, you don´t seem to understand me. When it comes to Iran everything is possible, but the issue here is "violence" against women. Gays and men, therefore is not my concern, as they have their own defense if it ever comes to that. Biased, me?! Well, like I said before, you´re entitled to your opinion.

  • @EDDBRANCH don't worry, I don't know about the middle east, but women have plenty of defenses, especially actually because many men are eager to jump on a chivalric white knight bandwagon for women, which they would be less inclined to do for men and gays.

  • @EDDBRANCH

    as [wimmins] were made for love.

    You're a crackpot.

  • @SeanMacCloud Yes, "wimmins" were made for love, alright. You´re a dick sucking bugger.

  • @unfortunatebeam nah, I´m loaded with truth and you, don´t want to accept it, no disrespect meant....

  • @fitzpatrick2005 Lying is the kind of thing both women and men do.....

  • I think he was abused very badly and I hope he doesn't burn in hell. When I see people so evil like that I can see the demons attached to them, pulling them and twisting them like puppets. They think they are in control but they are so full of hate that they can hurt a little girl for no reason other than to make her cry. It is horrible. Only God can save us.

  • @Emilydogcat

    So what you mean is you advocate Eugenics and an end to this phantasmagorical notion of equality?

    Right?

  • Eugenics is the study and practice of selective breeding applied to humans, with the aim of improving the species---when did I say I was an advocate of this???---------------and you think that equality does not exist and that the notion of it is bizarre--These are your views not mine-----Oh, you thought you could confuse me with your mumbo jumbo?-like I don't know what advocate means?--and a lot of females do lie but I'm not---but I have lied before, here's one, "

    my you make good points!"

  • Ok... please take the hate somewhere as to it won't cause a fight, and who cares if Mr. Fehr was payed for this if a celebrity makes it a point to stop hate against women then we should listen to him.

  • I believe that men who beat up women are nothing but a bloody bugger behindcloset doors...

  • @EDDBRANCH "a bloody bugger?' hmmm, apparently you must not be too concerned with violence against gays either.

  • @unfortunatebeam for your info, I don´t hate homos, "bugger" is a word made to address those kind of males who don´t like or respect women. I will lie to you and say I have gay friends, I don´t, but as far as their behaviour goes, I´ll treat them as they deserve. Did I make myself clear???

  • @EDDBRANCH and what's your word for women who don't like or respect men? And no, "bugger", actually, is a derogatory word for gays. Sorry, unless you have some kind of authority on the matter, you can't just make up out of the air your own definitions for already established words

  • @unfortunatebeam disrespectful. Besides, when a woman don´t respect a man, surely there´s a reason for that, right? I know that "bugger" is derogatory, hence the fact of my using it for male individual who deserves it.

  • @EDDBRANCH Surely there's are reason for women disrespecting men? -and is there not a reason for men disrespecting women at times? And if you are implying that men don't have reasons for disrespecting women and women do, then that's blatant gender bias. But I do think some men who disrespct women don't have reason, just like I think some women who disrespect men don't have a reason . See, that's NOT a gender bias, get it?

  • @unfortunatebeam I see your point, mate.What I´m saying in short is If there´s a case of disrecpect from either side, it ought to be talked over or they must go their own way leaving each alone. Then, nobody will have to put with any inconveniecies of a bad relationship. Gender bias, me? No at all. All in all your point will remain yours alone, as thathat the way things are, right?

  • alice: its a hate crime? ok i hate those women who abuse males. now is that a hate crime, if u think yes, feel free to do w/e u can about it. u aint welcome in my house, keep sequestered to ur "gender" , live a live alone and then end up with a case of "hysteria". u got some PMS too? piece of shit. u know why am i angry? i am a male wrongly accused of DV and that whore got money from me, i wud be a lot happier if i had actually beaten her coz the consequences still would have been same,lol

  • Women can be just as violent and just as horrible as men; I should know--my older sister and step-mother were horrible harpies! Maybe they were hurt when they were small (I know my sister was) but they became hateful themselves---anybody can be violent and women are often very violent to children and other women and men if they can get away with it----people are people and some are good and some are bad.

  • tis bastard was paid to speak what he just did. all u feminazis, u believe males are violent, so stay away from them. hell no, i would make u stay away from me. how about that? keep fingering or do w/e, none of my business. but out the door u go female terrorist

  • he's so great! x3

  • ears

  • Great actor !

  • he is soooo adorable and cute.... XD

  • he is too cute.

  • The numbers don't lie. Violence against women is an epidemic. It's time it is treated as the scourge on society that racism is. Making comparisons diminishes the problems and cannot dispute the facts. It's time this issue is front and center. There's nothing "domestic" about this violence. It's a hate crime done against gender because of gender.

  • It is true that there are many women that uses extreme violence. There was not a long time ago here in Sweden that a young woman killed two children and nearly killed their mother because of jealousy. But the reason of that we hear men are using violence more than women is because in all times men has been stronger and had authority over women but that is not an excuse to treat them like they are worth less.

    And the same way around.

  • he is awesomeee ;)

  • "your argument against feminists includes nothing except stereotypes and hate."

    When in doubt, pull the misogynist card, eh? Especially when someone doesn't agree with you, just make them look bad?

    Did you know that when Suzanne Steinmetz found equal rates of DV between men and women, her daughter received a bomb threat at her wedding and their was a letter campaign to deny Steinmetz's tenure at the University of Delaware?

    Who do you suppose perpetrated this?

  • I tried to volunteer with Amnesty Intl. but all they did was ask me to give them money. When I told them I was broke, they didn't say another word but in fact hanged up the telephone on me :(

  • p.s stop treating men that use their brains like they're fucking god! Demand respect. LOL hehe

  • Women you must build world wide sister hoods, learn at least self defense, gain (More) control of weapons, gain either equal amount of authority in all positions, or more authority then men, but most importantly stop harping over males stupidity. It's obvious this world can not continue to tolerate their idiotic actions, even men know this, you're women you're naturally more intelligent in some ways, evolve as women, and help your sex, men, other species, and our planet! Blessed be

  • Oh blah blah! Women look I know it comes as a shock to you to see how idiotic men can be, but that's what they're, not all men of course, but their are some very obvious reasons why they lack certain forms of intelligence. 1. Only one side of the males brain listens, a lot of the time. 2. High sex drive 3. Men can't handle stress as well as women, which leads to men becoming violent, hateful, selfish etc, but the point is this is natural for them, and should not be tolerated. You have to wake up

  • Growing up in religious households also contributes to the violence. They get the idea from an early age that men are better than women and that women are put on Earth to serve men. All religions cultivate the 'women as second class citizen' stereotype. Also the more religious a place is the more prone to violence. Look at the most violence prone cities in the world, you will find more places of worship per square foot than in more peaceful cities.

  • "They get the idea from an early age that men are better than women and that women are put on Earth to serve men."

    Since when? So many women I know barely accept making a cup of coffee for a man without either perceiving it as "oppression" or desiring him to return the favor manifold.

    I have yet to come across a woman that actually believes this, or practices it. Even Christian women resist the idea of being submissive to their husbands. Maybe in the Middle East, but not in the US or UK.

  • "Men can't handle stress as well as women,"

    When women are equally distributed on the front lines in war time, working in dirty jobs, dangerous jobs, heavily responsible jobs (over other people's lives) and what not, get back to me and I'll believe that.

  • Can't get a girlfriend?

  • Aw hes a pretty decent guy after all.

  • Thats not what you said in The Mummy.

  • LOL

  • Hahaha

  • woot, Oded Fehr, yo. my hero. <3  :))

  • this guy is not only goddam good looking, he is a nice guy,too!

  • He's an actor, how does anyone know what he is.

  • he wouldnt hold his face into the camera and saying this if he is not convinced by it !

    I am pretty sure about that!

  • Are you serious? An actor wouldn't put his face in a commercial?

  • so what? this is no commercial!!! its something for a good cause! I really dont get this discussions about his work: and I am sick of all these poor men who suffer in this mean, bad world--thats ridiculous! and I dont wanna get involed in this bull-shit anymore! I guess you are no woman !

  • @inapoi You're a bitch.

  • @Kan2209 and you are a dumbass - having no arguments than THIs - you bore me !

  • You truly are AN IDIOT.

  • "I guess you were too busy pontificating to read my statement that feminists are annoying too."

    But obviously you favor them with this:

    "the men who bitch about how women are unfairly favored in today's society are even more annoying."

    I rest my case.

  • After getting over the fact that the advocates of men's rights are far more aggressive on this comment page, I've cooled down enough to realize that my statement there was foolish. To tell the truth, I get annoyed more (and react more quickly) with individual complainers (and those who dismiss issues with a wave of their hand) than any collective group.

  • you don't need a penis to rape someone.

    dildos exist too. heck, anything can be improvised to rape someone.

    also, any independent study shows that women are at LEAST as violent as men. and when they are, they use weapons more often than not so the wounds are worse.

  • Are you aware some males are using Youtube as a rape share site...are you aware of how many violent rape scenes from films are being posted for male entertainment?

    Stop Violence Against Women and flag rape films on YouTube

    YouTube is misogynistic and homophobic to the core

  • To be fair, youtube is a tool for the exchange of videos. Its not misogynistic or homophobic, its completly neutral. Its only the people who use it who have these problems. And I agree it is a problem

  • God He iis Sexy

  • what a great guy GB him

  • This is a public awareness commercial against violence against women. Just as their is public awareness violence against other groups.If you want to see the others look them up.

  • Shouldn't we focus on ALL violence and suffering, not just that of women? I understand special needs and such, but that doesn't mean an entire division purely to focus on the violent acts on women. Still, if this must be the case, I propose a group for preventing violence against men.

  • I and many would second a group specifically designated to protect violence against men.. absolutely! And yes the focus as a whole is on violence against ALL human beings. This specific campaign is to aid in the relief of violence against women who are particular vulnerable in much of the world for the stated and obvious reasons. It is not an exclusive campaign by any means but please don't negate it's importance...all positive campaigns have a ripple effect ... as does violence unfortunately!

  • To be fair, more men are tortured and killed daily than women. Far, far more in fact.

    However, you're absolutely correct. I'm just arguing that specialization can cause the feeling of isolation and apathy.

  • Violence against women-Areas awarenes: sexual violence, use of rape as a weapon of warfare, domestic violence, trafficking of girls and women for use in the sex trade, honor killings, genital mutilation, denial of reproductive rights, dowry deaths, acid burning, stoning, deprived access to education and source of income, and unfortunately the list goes on.

    I would defy anyone to ignore the scope and prevalence of these offences and to denounce them as merely p.c. issues.

  • Male genital mutilation is legal pretty much everywhere on this planet. But nobody cares.

  • You're comparing circumcision to a girl having her clitoris removed or her vagina sewn shut so she can be opened like a x-mas present by her husband on their wedding night?...yeah..cuz it's the same

  • And none of what justpassingthrough is considered legal in any Western country.

    Nice to know that with men they don't have similar treatment (i.e. no reproductive rights), not the same due process when it comes to sexual harassment and rape accusations that are proved false, the Constitution suspended if they are deemed as war criminals, register for the selective service or men have no right to vote etc.

    Yeah, that list goes on, too.

  • meant to say "what justpassingthrough" said is considered legal . . .

  • "none of what justpassingthrough is considered legal in any Western country."

    And how is that relevant to the fact that these issues still exist?

    Feminists are annoying, but the men who bitch about how women are unfairly favored in today's society are even more annoying.

  • "the men who bitch about how women are unfairly favored in today's society are even more annoying."

    Translation: "You should just shut up about injustice towards men and simply take it."

    I'll never stop pointing it out and uncovering feminist hypocrisy.

    Let's see if you stated it like this:

    "but the women who bitch about how men are unfairly favored in today's society are even more annoying. . . "  You'd be called a sexist towards women.

    But sexism towards men is still fair game, eh?

  • "Translation: "You should just shut up about injustice towards men and simply take it."

    Nice try, but there are more productive ways of combating injustice against men than moaning. justpassingthrough suggested some good ideas; read his comments.

    "But sexism towards men is still fair game, eh?"

    Apparently not since moral crusaders like yourself are pointing it out in other people's posts. I guess you were too busy pontificating to read my statement that feminists are annoying too.

  • "Nice try, but there are more productive ways of combating injustice against men than moaning."

    Spreading awareness is a part of advocacy. By your dismissal of "nice try" Oded's announcement would qualify as "moaning" as well.

  • Spreading awareness of what? That the system is unfairly biased towards women when it comes to violence or that injustice against men is a serious problem?

  • If you don't know the answer to that, I honestly feel sorry for you.

  • "Spreading awareness of what? That the system is unfairly biased towards women when it comes to violence or that injustice against men is a serious problem?"

    The greater amount of violence (in general) is towards men. I know feminists that state, "it's just men attacking men," but if women where harming other women in the same numbers, there's something about "blaming the victim" there . . (not saying you're claiming that, but they sometimes do).

  • "Apparently not since moral crusaders like yourself are pointing it out in other people's posts. I guess you were too busy pontificating to read my statement that feminists are annoying too."

    False premise and a personal attack. I'm not a moral crusader and it's clear that I'm being curt rather than "pontificating."

    If feminists are so annoying, why don't to bother them and tell them to shut their traps, too?

  • "If feminists are so annoying, why don't to bother them and tell them to shut their traps, too?"

    Are you insinuating that I haven't? That would be a false premise.

  • Not from what I've seen.

  • And while you're at it, answer my first question: How does the fact that Western countries "outlawed" the violent practices against woment that justpassingthrough listed mitigate the fact that these practices still exist?

    There are countries outside the western world you know (gasp!) and "outlawing" alcohol in the West didn't prevent renegades from smuggling and concealing it.

  • "And while you're at it, answer my first question: How does the fact that Western countries "outlawed" the violent practices against woment that justpassingthrough listed mitigate the fact that these practices still exist?"

    Comparing Prohibition and violence against women is an apples to oranges argument. If you don't know the factors involved and how they differ, don't do so.

    If find it amusing you resort to placing someone else on the defense with red herrings and canned responses.

  • How does the fact that Western countries "outlawed" the violent practices against woment that justpassingthrough listed mitigate the fact that these practices still exist?

    Since you won't acknowledge that violence against men is also a significant problem nor realize that "these practices" are not practices at all, but criminal activity, you probably won't get the answer you want to hear. That's really what it's about---the feminist lens that women suffer more than men in DV or otherwise.

  • "Since you won't acknowledge that violence against men is also a significant problem nor realize that "these practices" are not practices at all, but criminal activity"

    Being a tad judgmental are we? Of course the "practices" are criminal activities- whether labeled so or not- as is violence against men or children or any creature. That does not change the fact that they still occur. And I would rather judge violence on individual cases without having gender as a factor. Can you do that?

  • I agree with you; judge violence case by case. Women can be just as horrrible and violent as men. And women are often horrible to other women; what about the cases of women hurting other women? Women in this society are depicted as harpies or sex toys or old maids--true--but labels need to quashed--but people still remain people.

  • "And while you're at it, answer my first question: How does the fact that Western countries "outlawed" the violent practices against woment that justpassingthrough listed mitigate the fact that these practices still exist?"

    If course, if you could offer a solution instead of bitching and moaning about--oh, wait, Joe Biden and Co. have alreay done that---it's VAWA, an act that can even punish men for lack of proof of abuse and violence.

  • Should read "punish men even with lack of proof of abuse . . ."

  • I don't advocate anyone (male or female) to just shut up and take violence; I advocate taking action against it that involves more than just words. Learn how to defend yourself and fight back or research the severity of your problem until you have enough evidence to persuade your neighborhood (and eventually world) to consistently combat it. Just don't expect to dismiss a problem (like you seemed to dismiss the problems that justpassingthrough listed) because laws have been passed against it.

  • "I don't advocate anyone (male or female) to just shut up and take violence; I advocate taking action against it that involves more than just words. Learn how to defend yourself and fight back or research the severity of your problem until you have enough evidence to persuade your neighborhood (and eventually world) to consistently combat it.

    Finally, you start to get somewhere instead of merely trying to put me on the defense. In all serious, that's commendable (more . . .)

  • "I don't advocate anyone (male or female) to just shut up and take violence; I advocate taking action against it that involves more than just words. Learn how to defend yourself and fight back or research the severity of your problem until you have enough evidence to persuade your neighborhood (and eventually world) to consistently combat it."

    I'm not saying you're wrong at all here, but it's an uphill proverbial battle all the way. Not to say it isn't worth it, but there you go.

  • "Just don't expect to dismiss a problem (like you seemed to dismiss the problems that justpassingthrough listed) because laws have been passed against it."

    I would also add, however, as a contrast, the more than one law are inherently injust and that men are often screwed over in the bargain, generally stated. This is one of the things I'm arguing about---innate inequality in the nature AND practice of the law.