Glad you got the NATEC in there. When I saw the name of the vid I was SURE I had a round you didn't but you do! Cool stuff that NATEC was. I picked up like 25 boxes for $4 a piece a few years ago at a gunshop. They said no one was buying it and thats why it was priced so low. If it wasn't for the neck separations I bet they would have gotten a HUGE govt contract.
@Neverfearericshere The bullets themselves are not that much different in size, it is the complete cartridges that causes the size difference. In other words--similar sized bullet, different amounts of powder--the .223 having much more and therefore being faster/more powerful.
Referring to your collection of polymer rounds, i own and have shot the tracer rounds. Sketchy.... sometimes the neck breaks off and jams itself in the feed ramp. The whole concept behind those was the idea that a person or soldier could carry atleast twice the ammo due to their super lightweight characteristic's.
No, 6.5 Grendel is by far the BEST small arms round in the world, supersonic up to 1200yds, that makes the average soldier hold much capapibilties in 1 gun. That would be like bringing back the old 1903 to Marines in WW1 and previous. their fire begins to kill at 700yds, we get hit before we hear the round go off some French soldiers would write.
The 7x43 was similar to the grendel ballisticly. The 6.5 grendel would be an excellent cartridge to adopt. 300m shots are most common, where 700 yard shots are bit rarer. Why would the French soldiers be writing about getting hit by the Springfield 1903's? We were on the same side in WW1.
@vector6977 When reloading for a semi -auto .they recomend using small base dies to set the shoulder back and size the base a thou or two smaller for easier chambering. That is one of the diferences between 5.56 and .223 . I have heard that the 5.56 is loaded to a higher chamber preasure.
@GunWebsites Good job. Finally someone who understands that .223 rem and 5.56 NATO are not the same. People argue with me all the time about this. They usually stop arguing when they have to get a rod to get a 5.56 NATO shell out of their .223 rem sporter. The same holds true for .308 Win and 7.62 NATO. NOT THE SAME. If they were, they wouldn't have different SAAMI specs.
@GunWebsites whats your take on shooting over 55grain bullets out of a 1in9" twist S&W M&P15A ??? I get mixed answers from some people and dont want to risk damaging my rifle. I have only shoty about 1000= rnds of 55gr but have yet to use the small box of Silver bear 62gr i have laying around.
@Dgaf82 I'm no expert and not 100% sure but I have never heard of larger grain bullets within a given caliber doing any damage to a firearm chambered for that round--the rifling simply won't stabilize the larger bullets, making them inaccurate. I have always hear that 1in9" is good up to 69 grain, 1in8" pretty much everything besides tracers, and 1in7" will shoot pretty much any 5.56, however the 1in7" can over-stabilize the smaller grain bullets as well, leading to accuracy issues.
@wcropp1 Don't quote me on this though, as I'm not 100%. I'd double check if you're going to be shooting a lot of it, but if it's wildly inaccurate I don't know why you'd be doing that anyway. If it's the round your gun is chambered for, and the rifling will stabilize it--I highly doubt it will damage your gun.
@wcropp1: I've heard of some damage happening in Garands that have >150gr bullets fired from them due to these generally being hotter loads than the M2 ball ammo they were designed for, thus bending the op rod. Other than that, I've never heard of any damage either.
@samuraiBSD Right--this can happen when using old guns and new ammunition, due to changes in ammo specs over the years--I was referring to recently manufactured guns. This is more of an age issue than a size issue though, right? The size of the projectile hasn't changed has it? Just the amount of pressure created by the new, hotter loads? Or does modern .30-06 use a larger projectile?
No, they are not the same. The 5.56 is slightly longer than the .223 and is usually loaded to higher pressures than the .223 rounds. You can shoot .223 in a rifle chambered for 5.56mm but it is not safe to fire the 5.56mm in a .223 chambered rifle.
the .223 and 5.56 is the same ammo like the .308 and 7.62x51. you can shoot the .223 in a 5.56 gun, but not the 5.56 in a .223 gun. bouth are senterfire
frontier = hornady and all 22 calibers today are 224 diameter except for the 22 hornet which is 223 and the 22 hi power which 227 the 225 win is 224 along with the 220 swift and 222 rem is the parent for the 223 rem
nice collection dude :D keep it up btw the blue "training round" im pretty sure its a bland thought (same thing but still) btw do you play xbox or something haha :P ?
i was believe the .50 AE is effective to be one hit kill, but i check that it has only around 1600j, and the i found the 5.56 nato has around 1700j, it is greater or what?
are there any other figuration should be concidered? plz reply.
im no bullet expert but 1600j for the AE witch is a bit bigger bullet got more energy that a 556 with 1700j the impact power it greater with the AE :P
One fact I didn't hear you mention is that a .223 round is the same size as a 5.56 nato (military) round but the latter is designed to travel faster, is more accurate and has a thicker casing to handle the extra power. Remmingont 223s can be fired out of all 223 rifles but only specific rifles can fire the 5.56 round.
Interesting. Thank you for sharing
SuperLouis420 3 weeks ago
many 223 to choose.
SuperRip7 4 months ago
Glad you got the NATEC in there. When I saw the name of the vid I was SURE I had a round you didn't but you do! Cool stuff that NATEC was. I picked up like 25 boxes for $4 a piece a few years ago at a gunshop. They said no one was buying it and thats why it was priced so low. If it wasn't for the neck separations I bet they would have gotten a HUGE govt contract.
jmcelheny1 7 months ago
gud i could use some of dem :P
kaustubhupadhyay1998 9 months ago
.223's look alot bigger on yt than in real life
XvChriisvX 1 year ago
I would like to buy one of those puzzles!
mrfixxit1968 1 year ago
Winchester Ballistic Silvertip <3
idotman12 1 year ago
no matter the size, all of them will make you shit your pants when fired at you!
rod3067 1 year ago
get shot with that .50 cal its game over
USMC807 1 year ago
so if i have a stag arms model 6 wich is in 5.56 i can shoot 223 do i have to buy a mag for 223 or can the 223 adapt to 5.56 magazines????
jigglejack100 1 year ago
@jigglejack100 mags are the exact same your good to go.
Dgaf82 1 year ago
this will sound really stupid, but why is it that a .22 is so much smaller than a .223 ?
Neverfearericshere 1 year ago
@Neverfearericshere The bullets themselves are not that much different in size, it is the complete cartridges that causes the size difference. In other words--similar sized bullet, different amounts of powder--the .223 having much more and therefore being faster/more powerful.
wcropp1 1 year ago
do you have a 6,8 grendel?
Name280 1 year ago
i have a shit load of 5.56x45 stripper clips
Andreaspaw 1 year ago
i want to hold that 50cal.
flapdrol102 1 year ago
Referring to your collection of polymer rounds, i own and have shot the tracer rounds. Sketchy.... sometimes the neck breaks off and jams itself in the feed ramp. The whole concept behind those was the idea that a person or soldier could carry atleast twice the ammo due to their super lightweight characteristic's.
stevenbuttermilk 1 year ago
the .223, .22-250, .22 lr, .220 swift are the same bullet calibers just different grains and different cases
snowboarddude117 1 year ago
what's the standard one used in the US army for M16?
Glockfan100 1 year ago
big motherfucking gun!!!!!! could not resist sorry....=)
gunnuttcx4storm 1 year ago
im new to fire arms, could you tell me what bmg means? thanks!
ichewtoast111 1 year ago
Browning Machine Gun
GunWebsites 1 year ago
.223 should have been patterned after 30-06 like the .50 BMG was.
Oxstayne 2 years ago
What they shoud have did was went with the 7x43 cartridge like they should have.
esh325 1 year ago
No, 6.5 Grendel is by far the BEST small arms round in the world, supersonic up to 1200yds, that makes the average soldier hold much capapibilties in 1 gun. That would be like bringing back the old 1903 to Marines in WW1 and previous. their fire begins to kill at 700yds, we get hit before we hear the round go off some French soldiers would write.
Oxstayne 1 year ago
The 7x43 was similar to the grendel ballisticly. The 6.5 grendel would be an excellent cartridge to adopt. 300m shots are most common, where 700 yard shots are bit rarer. Why would the French soldiers be writing about getting hit by the Springfield 1903's? We were on the same side in WW1.
esh325 1 year ago
thinking about a different war oops.
Oxstayne 1 year ago
I'm looking to add to my ammo collection. Got any to sell?
ODoubleJ 2 years ago
nope
GunWebsites 2 years ago
Is the AK-74 round similar the the 223.
MrBdobb 2 years ago
@ODoubleJ You can buy individual rounds from ammo-one.com. That's how I built up my collection.
lcawood 1 year ago
is a 223 and 5.56x45mm NATO the same thing and is it a rimfire or centerfire
irish4lyfe69 2 years ago
almost the same, but not the same and both are centerfire
GunWebsites 2 years ago
would a 223 be able to shoot a 5.56x45mm NATO
irish4lyfe69 2 years ago
Shooting .223 Remington in a 5.56x45 mm chambered gun is OK
Shooting 5.56x45 mm in a .223 Remington chamber gun could be bad
GunWebsites 2 years ago
@GunWebsites lol look at the vid of the gun blowing up in the guys face who did switched ammo without barrels LMFAO
TokeThePlanet420 1 year ago
@GunWebsites I am correct in saying the 5.56 is a much hotter round than most of the .223 loads. That is why they can't be interchanged.
vector6977 1 year ago
@vector6977 When reloading for a semi -auto .they recomend using small base dies to set the shoulder back and size the base a thou or two smaller for easier chambering. That is one of the diferences between 5.56 and .223 . I have heard that the 5.56 is loaded to a higher chamber preasure.
500SWMAGOPERATOR 1 year ago
@GunWebsites Good job. Finally someone who understands that .223 rem and 5.56 NATO are not the same. People argue with me all the time about this. They usually stop arguing when they have to get a rod to get a 5.56 NATO shell out of their .223 rem sporter. The same holds true for .308 Win and 7.62 NATO. NOT THE SAME. If they were, they wouldn't have different SAAMI specs.
iamauen 1 year ago
@iamauen
Exactly! 5.56 will shoot .223 with SLIGHT drop in accuracy. Shoot 5.56 in a .223 chamber you could be looking at some damage to your rifle.
bgroberts27 1 year ago
@GunWebsites whats your take on shooting over 55grain bullets out of a 1in9" twist S&W M&P15A ??? I get mixed answers from some people and dont want to risk damaging my rifle. I have only shoty about 1000= rnds of 55gr but have yet to use the small box of Silver bear 62gr i have laying around.
Dgaf82 1 year ago
@Dgaf82 I'm no expert and not 100% sure but I have never heard of larger grain bullets within a given caliber doing any damage to a firearm chambered for that round--the rifling simply won't stabilize the larger bullets, making them inaccurate. I have always hear that 1in9" is good up to 69 grain, 1in8" pretty much everything besides tracers, and 1in7" will shoot pretty much any 5.56, however the 1in7" can over-stabilize the smaller grain bullets as well, leading to accuracy issues.
wcropp1 1 year ago
@wcropp1 Don't quote me on this though, as I'm not 100%. I'd double check if you're going to be shooting a lot of it, but if it's wildly inaccurate I don't know why you'd be doing that anyway. If it's the round your gun is chambered for, and the rifling will stabilize it--I highly doubt it will damage your gun.
wcropp1 1 year ago
@wcropp1: I've heard of some damage happening in Garands that have >150gr bullets fired from them due to these generally being hotter loads than the M2 ball ammo they were designed for, thus bending the op rod. Other than that, I've never heard of any damage either.
samuraiBSD 1 year ago
@samuraiBSD Right--this can happen when using old guns and new ammunition, due to changes in ammo specs over the years--I was referring to recently manufactured guns. This is more of an age issue than a size issue though, right? The size of the projectile hasn't changed has it? Just the amount of pressure created by the new, hotter loads? Or does modern .30-06 use a larger projectile?
wcropp1 1 year ago
@wcropp1: It's just the pressure created by the new loads. Innovations in the quality of powder, strength of charge, etc.
samuraiBSD 1 year ago
No, they are not the same. The 5.56 is slightly longer than the .223 and is usually loaded to higher pressures than the .223 rounds. You can shoot .223 in a rifle chambered for 5.56mm but it is not safe to fire the 5.56mm in a .223 chambered rifle.
TriggerJunkie 2 years ago
you can fire both our of an Ar stamped for 5.56. but if it's stamped .223 on the receiver DO Not shoot 5.56. It could explode in the chamber
MYAR15SaysImFree 2 years ago
the .223 and 5.56 is the same ammo like the .308 and 7.62x51. you can shoot the .223 in a 5.56 gun, but not the 5.56 in a .223 gun. bouth are senterfire
halla369 2 years ago
those plastic rounds look like pencils.
ozzyguy67 2 years ago
I can get you one of those plastic cased .50 BMG's If you want one
hyperhunk90 2 years ago
that blue tip .223 might be simunition witch is a hard paintball bullet witch can be seen in jarhead when the guy gets shot in the face
mcjrotc1988 2 years ago
frontier = hornady and all 22 calibers today are 224 diameter except for the 22 hornet which is 223 and the 22 hi power which 227 the 225 win is 224 along with the 220 swift and 222 rem is the parent for the 223 rem
GUNNY89 2 years ago
223 or 556 is 224 diameter
GUNNY89 2 years ago
Nice collection.
xvirus2501 2 years ago
thanks, it's fun to seek out new stuff for it
GunWebsites 2 years ago
nice collection dude :D keep it up btw the blue "training round" im pretty sure its a bland thought (same thing but still) btw do you play xbox or something haha :P ?
NarowAR07 2 years ago
no we don't play any video games
GunWebsites 2 years ago
Cool
yallow35 2 years ago 4
i was believe the .50 AE is effective to be one hit kill, but i check that it has only around 1600j, and the i found the 5.56 nato has around 1700j, it is greater or what?
are there any other figuration should be concidered? plz reply.
QQ20034 2 years ago
im no bullet expert but 1600j for the AE witch is a bit bigger bullet got more energy that a 556 with 1700j the impact power it greater with the AE :P
NarowAR07 2 years ago
@QQ20034 The .50AE is a much larger bullet than the 5.56. Bigger bullet at almost the same speed=more powerful.
wcropp1 1 year ago
One fact I didn't hear you mention is that a .223 round is the same size as a 5.56 nato (military) round but the latter is designed to travel faster, is more accurate and has a thicker casing to handle the extra power. Remmingont 223s can be fired out of all 223 rifles but only specific rifles can fire the 5.56 round.
studiog 2 years ago
you are correct, thanks for the info
GunWebsites 2 years ago
put your ammo next to a fire and lets see what happens
ComoHayGenteSonsa 2 years ago 4
No, you do that with yours and point a camera at it
GunWebsites 2 years ago
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can the ammo you have can it kill a deer
TheMrhotcutesexyboy 2 years ago
yes
GunWebsites 2 years ago
A bullet collection? Okay...
getemhi 2 years ago
what do you collect?
GunWebsites 2 years ago
Debt.
getemhi 2 years ago
LOL
GunWebsites 2 years ago
nice music in the back ground man great song lol
JUSTANOTHERDAY333333 2 years ago
LOL, that wasn't intentional, it was just the radio on in the other room I think
GunWebsites 2 years ago
dude u got a fuckin .50 cal DUDE WHERE DO U GET ALL THIS AMMO MAN
Domainz77 2 years ago
I just look down a lot when I'm at ranges, I also trade or get rounds donated when I'm out shooting, I have bought a few too
GunWebsites 2 years ago