Why We Need a Liberal Israel Lobby at the 92nd Street Y

[MrObserver111]

We don't need a liberal Israeli lobby. We need the Israel lobby to register as agents for a foriegn interest. Israel is not the 51st state. It is a foreign country, whose interests are not the same as the USA. USA gives Israel $3 billion per year and they funnel most of that money back into the USA to their PACs and lobbies, and bribe and extort our government to give them more money and to fight their wars. Zionism is a bad idea. Pls go to Israel.

[mattbaldea]

total garbage the exact opposite of what people should be doing. why should we lobby for foreign countries.

[CitarPlayer]

You're absolutely right. They are getting the orders from Obama and his minions selfloathing Jews. JStreet, Soros and all the ACLU, NYT, WP liberal scum along with the LAME MAINSTREAM MEDIA, are sold out to the Saudis and other arabs. They are trying to screw the USA and its allies, mainly Israel, but Netanyahu won't let them do it. I am not a zealot, I am a secular Jew, but we will stand for America, Israel and other allies against the islamization of the Western Judeo-Christian civilization...

[CitarPlayer]

Scumbags, selfloathing, selfhating american and jews...You're the shame of the Jewish people, you filthy turncoats..

You're our ennemies. J Street is an alleged jewish organization financed by the Saudis...Do you guys need more than that? Liberals are selfdestructive, hoping they murderers friends blow them up one day...

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@CitarPlayer

Fucking damn straight. Well said!

[animalhq]

Where does Rabbi Gutow live? I spent 7 years in Seattle -- one of the most liberal communities in the country. A liberal rabbi was arrested while holding a sign that said "Pro-Israel / Pro-Peace" at a Pro-Israel rally -- BY THE FEDERATION who organized the rally.

I'm glad Rabbi Gutow feels there is a robust debate on Israel. I don't see it in most places in the country.

[johnsmdm]

keep your noses out of the liberal jews business got it hunh!...the Mossiach will return with a weak Israel sirs!

[8thRRFS]

Liberal Jews voted for Obama. And Obama is going to sell Israel down the river re: Iran getting nukes. Speaking as a Conservative Jew, I'll say this. You liberal Jews are putzes.

[ptp44444]

Basically, those who voted for Barack Hussein Obama voted for someone who has an agenda to destroy Israel. Obama's entire administration, including the self hating Jews in his administration, are putting Israel at GREAT RISK. The only realistic hope is that Israel elects a true Right Wing Government with Torah Values. A government that would reflect the " Jewish Task Force " positions. And in the U.S., a true conservative President like Sarah Palin is desperately needed.

[monsterminds2]

Obama has an America first policy. All Americans should support the president.

[ptp44444]

I completely disagree with you. Obama's agenda is clearly against the best interest of America. Liberalism, including appeasing America's enemies, always eventually leads to disaster.  It's the responsibility of Americans to oppose Obama as long as he occupies the Oval Office.

[bapyou]

@ptp44444 You wrote

"in the U.S., a true conservative President like Sarah Palin is desperately needed"

Bwahahahahahahahaha! You're "desperate" for Sarah Palin? Now I'm certain conservatives are complete idiots. Thanks for the education. Desperate for Sarah Palin! Bwahahahahaha! Bwahahahaha! Hahahaha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Hahahahahaha! Ha... ha ... ha ... Bwahahahahahahaha!

[ptp44444]

@bapyou . Sarah Palin wants the Settlements in Israel to expand. Barack Hussein Obama and his administration want Israel to commit suicide by forcing Israel to give up the little land that Israel still has. If you still support BHO and/ or those in his administration despite that he's proven that he's an enemy of Israel, you are either a fool or you are evil.

[bapyou]

@ptp44444 " forcing Israel to give up the little land that Israel still has"

Bwahahahahaha! You idiots never cease to amaze me. Israel has been steadily GAINING land through outright theft for decades. In fact, Israel has been forcing Palestinians to give up what little land THEY have; land decreed Palestinian by international law. Israel is an outlaw state. It needs to be punished for its human rights violations; it has ignored more UN resolutions than Saddam Hussein.

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@bapyou

Israel is really doing a number on these partisan hacks. Don't these people watch the videos (right here on youtube) of Israel stealing Palestinian land?!

[Tomislavv2]

@bapyou

There is no such thing as ''palestinian land'' or ''palestinian people''UN is not an independed body of world democracies but organization which hase democratic minority and authocratic opresive majority.Ower half of UN members represent self imposed feudalistic rulers of whom many comes from tiranic Islamist regimes

[Judel100]

Conservative Judaism is a joke. You're losing thousands to Reform because of your stance on Zionism, your halachic confusion and your unwelcoming attitude to converts and non-Jews and to the Orthodox (who will surpass you in numbers in a very near future) you are no better than the Goyim who call Shuls "Temples." Better look yourself in a mirror before you call anyone a putz.

[8thRRFS]

@Judel100 I'm not a religious conservative JEW. I'm a politically conservative AMERICAN who also happens to be Jewish. My point is that it is liberalism that is bad for America, bad for Israel and bad for Jews. Liberalism, "diversity" and political correctness are BAD for Western civilization and America and Israel in particular. Jews will self-destruct if they stay on the liberal train. Kapish?

[bapyou]

@8thRRFS " Obama is going to sell Israel down the river re: Iran getting nukes."

Most conservatives ignoramuses, such as yourself, don't have clue #1 about the history of the Iranian nuclear program. So here goes: Listen up, putz: Iran obtained nuclear technology during the reign of the Shah, a so-called ally of the U.S. who was placed in power BY the U.S. The first reactors were built by Seimans, a German company. Thank the west for Iran's nuclear program PUTZ.

[Tomislavv2]

@bapyou you are clearly inventing things when you said "Iran obtained nuclear technology during the reign of the Shah" Iran didn't obtained the entire technology of making nukes even today and the program for nuke production started after Iran-Iraq war.

[bapyou]

@Tomislavv2 No invention is necessary with respect to nuclear technology in Iran. The Shah begged the US for nuclear technology with the expressed idea of having the bomb.

[Tomislavv2]

The Mullah's regime perpetrated mass murders and pogroms of Baha'i people killing hundreds.atheists, agnostics, sceptics — under Islam and Mullah' regime do not have "the right to life.The level of terror,killings,mutilations,wo­man abuse internal terror by Basij terrorist Gesthapo militia in Iran today excedes the level of terror in Nazi Germany carried out by Hitler in 30's.The Islamic republic is nothing alse but the copy of Nazi Germany where terror is even harsher and more cruel

[Tomislavv2]

However during the time of Shah there were no hanging of apostates on streets,public execution of children,gays and political oponents with decorating streets with their corpses.There were no mutilation,no support of terroist organization.T

[Tomislavv2]

@bapyou According to political historian Ervand Abrahamian, "whereas less than 100 political prisoners had been executed between 1971 and 1979,more than 7900 were executed between 1981 and 1985 while tens of thousands of political prisoners were excuted by Islamofascist Mullah's regime in 1988.Amputations of legs and arms,mutilations of children,decoration of Irans street with hanged corpses of girls like Delara become part of Islamofascist Iranian culture.

[Tomislavv2]

@bapyou Part 2

Milions of woman are treated like subhumans needing husband premision for work.

In Islamofascist mullah's regime Evidence given by a woman in court is considered only worth half that given by a man.Freedom to convert from Islam to another religion (apostasy), is prohibited and punishable by death.Intelectual elite in Islamofascist mullah's regime Mohammad Jafar Pouyandeh, Mohammad Mokhtari, Majid Sharif Dariush Forouhar have been exterminated

[whyzeee2]

These rogue Jews are extremely dangerous. J street is a CIA front organization meant to subvert the Jews.

[gkraychik]

Fantastic exchange, thank you for sharing this refreshing and reasonably level-headed discussion!

[peaceforall111]

how is criticizing israel not be liberal? criticizing israel would BE being liberal you deluded freaks!